1 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to will Gate f Daily 2 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: with Meet your Girl Daniel Moody, recording from the Bunker, Folks, 3 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: I got to say that as I continue to watch, 4 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: and I'm sure that you all are as well, all 5 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: of the reports coming out not only from this country 6 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: but around the globe as it pertains to global warming 7 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,919 Speaker 1: and climate, the climate crisis that we are seeing in 8 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: real time, all of the things that scientists. You know, 9 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: remember when we used to actually listen to scientists and 10 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: believe them as a whole entire country until Republicans decided 11 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: that they would have their own scientists and their own 12 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: alternative facts and then distort reality. Well, now their warnings 13 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: have come to pass. And the thing that I wonder 14 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: as I listened to President Biden talk to the American 15 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: people about the crisis that we're in and false short 16 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: of issuing a public health emergency around climate change, is 17 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: are we just too late? You know? I've been watching 18 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: videos all over social media of the tarmac at Heathrow 19 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: Airport that fucking melted, of a sinkhole that swallowed up 20 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: nearly half of a goddamn street in the Bronx in 21 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: New York after the rain that we just got in. 22 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: There was entire once again subway stations that turned into 23 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: geyser's You're talking about the state of Texas issuing like 24 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 1: a series of alerts because they are experiencing one hundred 25 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: and fourteen degree temperatures for a number of days in 26 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 1: a row. Where we're talking about drought, where we're talking 27 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: about a food shortage, We're talking about all of these 28 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: things that have now just blown out of control. We 29 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: had twenty thirty year lead time to avoid this, to 30 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: actually create policies and initiatives that supposedly where people were 31 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: supposed to come together in the Paris Climate Agreement to do, 32 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: and then come to find out this week that not 33 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: one country, not one of them that signed onto the 34 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: Paris Climate Agreement, is on track to deliver what it 35 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: was that they said that they would deliver to the world. 36 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: So the world is on fucking fire. No one has 37 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: infrastructure built to sustain the rising temperatures that are now 38 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: going to be the norm, and what we are going 39 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: to see is the chain reaction of events that are 40 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: going to come to pass. I talked about this yesterday 41 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: with regard to the price of food, the price of water, right, 42 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: Because what's going to happen is that as folks are 43 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: just trying to water their lawns or keep their plants alive, 44 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: you have farmers that are trying to water their produce 45 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: in order to keep us alive. You have the entire 46 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: country of Italy declare a climate emergency because they're in 47 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: a major fucking drought. So you talk about the fact 48 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: that we are all interconnected, we have not been acculturated 49 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: to be noble citizens, and surely not under Trumpism, because 50 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: that was all America first. Well, you know there is 51 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: no America first, Italy first, this, that and the other thing. 52 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: We're all fucked right. That's what it means to be interconnected, 53 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: and that's what it means when you don't have a 54 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: community mindset and instead are continuing to function in silos 55 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: as if one country's actions doesn't affect the other. We 56 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: can no longer pretend that we are not in a crisis. 57 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: And you know what's funny is that when you are 58 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: looking to voters right now on where climate change falls 59 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: in their list of issues that they're concerned about, Well, 60 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: when you're looking at people sixty five and up, who 61 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: are generally the ones to vote in mid term elections 62 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: and off presidential year elections. They don't really care about 63 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: climate change, right because more than half of their lives 64 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: are fucking over And many people have actually articulated that 65 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: in the public sphere because I guess they're shame around 66 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: being so fucking selfish. Does not matter because the world, 67 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: right is just so selfish. But when you talk to 68 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: young people, particularly Generation Z, climate change is kind of 69 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: the number one thing because they're wondering how they're going to, 70 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, be able to sustain on a planet 71 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: that we are killing every single day. So you know, 72 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: you have Joe Mansion, who has once again said that 73 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: he is not going to vote for any climate legislation. 74 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: Why should he give a fuck? His family are multi millionaires, 75 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: right that are making money off the backs of the poor, 76 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: stupid people in West Virginia. And yeah, I said stupid 77 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: because today I'm fucking pissed. I'm pissed that this motherfucker 78 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: stays in power. I'm pissed that nobody calls him out. 79 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: Joe Biden and his fucking press event to the world 80 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: around climate change is calling out Republicans but not calling 81 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: out fucking Joe Mansion and Kursen Cinema. Oh, because what 82 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: what are we afraid of? That he's going to continue 83 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: doing nothing, That he's going to continue rolling with then 84 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: acting like a Republican and being a Democrat and fucking 85 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: name only. Like, at this point in time, I just 86 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: wish that we would stop operating from a place of 87 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: fucking fear and start operating from a place of reality 88 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: and strength. That motherfucker needs to go, right along with 89 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: Merritt Garland needs to go. And it's just like these 90 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: fucking quote unquote moderate white men are going to be 91 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: the fucking death of us. And I'm just wondering when 92 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: everybody else is going to start to realize that. Coming 93 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: up next, my conversation with voting rights advocate and political 94 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: narrative strategist Maya Contreras, Folks, I am very excited to 95 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: welcome to wok F Daily for the first time, Maya 96 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: contrerez who is a voting rights advocate and political narrative strategist, 97 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: which I like that name and I may steal it 98 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 1: at some point. Maya, thank you so much for making 99 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: the time to join woke F. I want to start 100 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: off our conversation today. You know we are a month 101 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: plus a little bit out from the reversal of Rob 102 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: Wade from the Supreme Court to dramatic decision to take 103 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: away for the first time, I think in modern history, 104 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: to take away a right that Americans have had over 105 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: the last close to fifty years, and we are still 106 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: dealing with the repercussions of that. Many states, as you know, 107 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: had trigger laws that were already in place, so women 108 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: and people with uterus is in roughly I believe it's 109 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: thirteen plus states have lost the ability to have bodily autonomy. 110 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: The White House with their with their outgoing White House 111 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: Communications Director push back against activists in a way that 112 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: was really shocking, kind of pinning activists in a way 113 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: against establishment Democrats and saying that those that are fighting 114 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: on the ground and are the first line of defense 115 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: are apparently out of step quote unquote with establishment amocrats. 116 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: I wanted to get your initial reaction from that statement 117 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: and then you know the subsequent actions and things that 118 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: we have been hearing, reading and observing on social media 119 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: in the news as it pertains to this administration emergency 120 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: action against this reversal. So when I first heard with 121 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: the outgoing Secretary set I I put like twelve hands 122 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: over my face. I was, I just was. I was fatterned, 123 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: but not surprised. And the reason why I say that 124 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: is my grandfather taught an American university. My mom was 125 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: born in Washington, d C. I spent a lot of 126 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: time in DC grang up and one of the number 127 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: one things that I learned about DC when I was 128 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: eight years old was that DC is allergic to creativity. 129 00:07:54,520 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: And yes, and I will say that because of that, 130 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: you have people that are moving into a bubble there 131 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: who are still thinking in ways that are very antiquated. 132 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: And one of my issues with and first of all, 133 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: let me say this too, I live in definitions. One 134 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: of the things that doctor ebra Max Kindy said and 135 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: I love, is that we need to live in the definition. 136 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: So when I say, when I use the word establishment, 137 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: anyone that steps into Congress becomes establishment, I want you 138 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: all to understand that that is an establishment. And you're 139 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: moving into establishment, and you're choosing to work in an 140 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: establishment environment. It is very difficult to work in something 141 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: that was not created for the vast majority of us. 142 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: It is very difficult. The bones of DC inside that 143 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: is racism, misogyny, misogynoir. That is what you're walking into. 144 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: That's why that's the se as difficult. Now on top 145 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: of that, when you have messengers and are vast the 146 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: vast majority of them are white and who have never 147 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: worked in activist spaces or advocacy spaces, this is the 148 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: kind of messaging that comes through where the fault Laes 149 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: is in not recognizing that they need to have more 150 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: people that work in those spaces inside of the White House. 151 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,359 Speaker 1: That was the biggest mistake. I will say she fundamentally 152 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: in that moment. I think I'm not going to assume 153 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: what she thought, but I'm assuming she did later regret 154 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: to say it. I think that she was trying to 155 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: hit hit back off of people who have been maybe 156 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: performative and their activism. But what it did is hurt 157 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: people that are waking up in their daily lives fighting 158 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: against this tide of racist codified policies that are coming 159 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: out through throughout the country. So that I will say 160 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: that was my initial reaction and a little bit of 161 00:09:55,400 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: where I saw the mistake coming from. You know, I 162 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: find that you know as somebody not not quite like you, 163 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: not as embedded, but I spent over fifteen years in Washington, 164 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: d C. I went you know, undergrad political science, grad 165 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: school education policy, and then worked on the hill, ran 166 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: the gamut until I fled DC in twenty sixteen to 167 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 1: move to New York. And what I can say about 168 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: inside the Beltway is that you are absolutely right. Creativity 169 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: is an oasis there right that many and maybe not 170 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: even an oasis, I'll say, a mirage that you you 171 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: kind of think with new administrations that you will come 172 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: to this place of consensus and biparticism, and you know, 173 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: and this this imagined place of yesteryear, and what we 174 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: are seeing, I think more and more is that the 175 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: behind the curtain scotch drinking, handshaking, you know, kind of 176 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 1: politics that Joe Biden cut his teeth in are no 177 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: longer apparent. Yet the people that he employs and that 178 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 1: still find themselves employed in Washington, DC and in politics, 179 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: are still of that mindset. And so where they're viewing 180 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: activism right, even the acknowledgement that this administration is not 181 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: going to its full capacity of power to push back 182 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: against the compounded crises that we're dealing with, that we 183 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: are the problem somehow. And so you know, for many 184 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: activists who I've talked to, particularly around abortion. They were pissed. 185 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: They've been pissed at this administration. You know, they were 186 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: pissed at this administration because we have yet to have 187 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: a president under the word abortion, let alone fight for 188 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: it in a way that would say that we are 189 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 1: going to go to the very lengths that our executive 190 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: power allows us to go. We go in there, right. 191 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: And So what is it that you see or think 192 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: about this administration what it's been faced with, Because I'm 193 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: not saying that they walked into a warm, welcome setting 194 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: where they could kind of take on task one at 195 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: a time. They kind of walked into a five alarm 196 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: fire and now it really is one across the planet. 197 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: What do you think that this administration isn't getting and 198 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: do they have an opportunity to make a pivot? So 199 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: I have said this and I just said it in 200 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: an article I wrote for Dame this week that the 201 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: message is policy. So we have to look at what 202 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: our legislators are doing in Congress, and by that this 203 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: administration and by that I mean the one hundred and 204 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: seventeenth Congress is actually doing quite well. They've introduced a 205 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: host of amazing legislation to codify abortion, to expand protections, 206 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 1: to protect our data from being released, and things like that. However, 207 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: we have a Senate that is gridlocked, and no matter 208 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: what anyone says, Joe Biden has no sway or control 209 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: overmansion and cinema because these are separations of power. He's 210 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: not a dictator. He cannot tell them what to do. 211 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: These stories of LBJ saying that he leaned people in 212 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: the corner and intimidated him, those are overblown and if 213 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: you read the history the history of LBJ there, they're 214 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: much blown and exaggerated. Second, I will say this, Joe 215 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: Biden is somebody that is a moderate president. It's like 216 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: when a lot of people thought when Obama got elected 217 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: that he was going to do all these things and 218 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: really swing to the left, but he was moderate too. 219 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: We have to recognize that when we're electing moderates, we're 220 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 1: going to get moderate responses. So I don't so all 221 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: the things that Joe Biden is doing. I'm not surprised. 222 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: That's why he wasn't my first pick for president either. Right, 223 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: So that's why to me, we have to recognize when 224 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: they're showing us, I'm telling us who they are. That 225 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: is who we're getting now regarding backdoor deals. I want 226 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: to go back to that for a second. Unfortunately that 227 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: still exists the local level and the state level, and 228 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: at the federal level. I mean in New York, we're 229 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: both New Yorkers. We are haunted by the ghosts of 230 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: Tammany Hall and Robert Moses. We have so many people 231 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 1: that once they move into spaces of power, want to 232 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: stay there. This is the problem with the entrenchment of power. 233 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, you have people that are willing 234 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: to not be transparent and the deals that they are making, 235 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: including city council members that I had in the past 236 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: really supported and liked, and then solve them change the 237 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: moment they moved behind that power door. So what we 238 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: have right now in DC is a more of a 239 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: rarity of people that are willing to speak their mind 240 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: and speak freely about it. And unfortunately a lot of 241 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: people who've been entrenched in power are so risk averse 242 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: that they're the ones that are really the problem. So 243 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: to me, what the problem is that's going on the local, state, 244 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: and federal level is an aversion to risk. Joe Biden 245 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: and of traditional moderate Democrats have long looked at polls 246 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: to decide what people want, well Biden. If we can 247 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: fault Biden specifically, it will be that one, people want 248 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: to have access to abortion. Seventy seven percent of this 249 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: country supports that people support SSI, which would help the 250 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: disabled community. They support so many pieces of policy that 251 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: Biden should understand that they're popular and he can make 252 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: these decisions to do more. However, I will say this 253 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: regarding EO's executive ordered, they can only do so much. 254 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: They can be thrown out by our scotus, our right 255 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: wing scotus. They can be overturned by the next president. 256 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: So this is why they're very difficult. The main thing 257 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: that we want to do, and what I will also 258 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: say that Ruth Bader Ginsburg wanted to do was actually 259 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: Alya slowly put these pieces together so it's harder to 260 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: blow it down. That's why she never ever wanted row 261 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: Vue way to go in the way that it did. However, 262 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: when was the opportunity to codify it. I went through. 263 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: You should know that I'm an award winning researcher, So 264 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: I went through and would love every single Congress since 265 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three to see when there was a supermajority 266 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: and when they could have codified, and it only happened 267 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: two times, Jimmy Carter's administration for two years, an Obama 268 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: for seventeen working days, and for a Jimmy Carter. People 269 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: need to understand, Jimmy Carter was not pro abortion. He 270 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: didn't want federal funds available for it, so that was 271 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: never gonna happen. Not only that, but he had one 272 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five men, men that were like, hell, no, 273 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: it's not happening, so that that was not gonna happen. 274 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: The same with the Obama administration. Obama came in and saying, hey, 275 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: let's do this, naively thinking I've got the votes. He 276 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: didn't have the votes. Obama needed to look before he spoke, 277 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: and when saying that, you go back through and you 278 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: see the votes, he didn't have him. He didn't have him. 279 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: He didn't have him. It would have been filibustered, and 280 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: he didn't have him. If it wasn't filibustered. So this 281 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: is why I'm saying, we have never had the opportunity 282 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: to codify it. We've got the ACA through with the 283 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 1: skin of our teeth. So That's why people have to 284 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: understand that one of the ways if we want to 285 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: codify wrote and we're trying to do that, it's past 286 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: in the House is not going to pass thissent as 287 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: we have to elact more senators. That unfortunately sounds like 288 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: such an annoying and boring thing, right, But that is 289 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: the reality of our situation if we're talking about strategy. Hey, 290 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: I'm David Plots of Slates Political Gapfest. 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Listen to Beyond the Scenes from The 306 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: Daily Show with Trevor Noah on the iHeartRadio app, Apple 307 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: Podcast or wherever you get your podcast, new episodes every Tuesday. 308 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't It's not even to me, Maya 309 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: that it sounds boring. It's just that when I even 310 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: hear the word moderation right now, as we are seeing 311 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: pictures of literally the globe that is on fire, when 312 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: we are citing that, I I just watched a story 313 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: right before we were talking today. More women, I think 314 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: it's up one hundred, one hundred and fifty percent of 315 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: women looking into sterilization in places like Texas and Ohio. 316 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: That those Google searches and those um those research meetings 317 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 1: with doctors are becoming increasingly the norm because they would 318 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: rather sterilize then end up in a predicament where they 319 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: are not don't have access to contraception or changes you know, 320 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: in in a month um or that they in fact 321 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: do become pregnant and then of course are not able 322 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: to abort that pregnancy, and so when you hear all 323 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: of these stories and and I mean I could go 324 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: on and on and on. As people know on woke 325 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: a f you think to yourself, where the hell does 326 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: moderation make sense? Where does like you know what I'm 327 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: saying that, And that's it's just like I didn't. Biden 328 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: was not my first choice. He wasn't even my fifth. 329 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: And so when I am talking about yes, I understand that, 330 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: America said, you know what, here's an old white evil man, 331 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. We're gonna get a good white old man 332 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: to battle against him, and then all is going to 333 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: be well. Well, eighteen months after an insurrection, an attempt 334 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 1: to overthrow the government, and a series of laws that 335 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: have been passed in red states, nowhere in sight do 336 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: you see Republicans working at a pace called moderation. So 337 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: I'm wondering what you believe is a pivot or pivots 338 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: that need to happen, not just from this administration, but 339 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: at the state and local level with Democrats in order 340 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: to one hold on to the majority in the House 341 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: and in the Senate, even if it's by the skin 342 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: of their goddamn teeth, to avert fascism, but in general, 343 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: to recognize that this incremental change in progress that we've 344 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: been kind of feeding people for decades plus, it ain't 345 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: it anymore. Sure. I would also say a couple of things. One, No, 346 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: I'm not someone who believes in moderation when there is 347 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: multiple crisis. There's a mental health crisis, there's an environmental crisis, 348 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: there's a public health crisis. There's multiple crisises, right, and 349 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: crisiss means they're that their need quick emergency response. But 350 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 1: let me say this first. A lot of the white 351 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: people that ended up voting for Joe Biden, that moved 352 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: over to him, this is fine for a lot of them. 353 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,199 Speaker 1: You have to understand this was fine for them. They're like, okay, 354 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 1: so that we're good. Now we're going to go back 355 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: to brunch. This was fine, okay, So they don't care. Now. 356 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: I will say this within Congress. The reason why moderation 357 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: has been a word used to describe Congress for so long, 358 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: why because seventy seven percent of our Congress now is 359 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: still white. The vast majority of it. I think it's 360 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 1: seventy eight, seventy six percent, no, sorry, seventy three percent 361 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: is male. So you've understand that black women, women in 362 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: color and Congress LGBTQ members, disabled members, they're still make 363 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 1: up twenty seven percent a fraction of Congress. So when 364 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: we say, well, why are things working at such a 365 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: moderate pace, you have to understand that the vast majority 366 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 1: of Congress doesn't see that necessarily as an emergency. I'm 367 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: not saying there aren't some Donald Trump, some very fine 368 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: white people on the Democratic sun. I'm not saying that 369 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: because obviously by Chris Murphy wants gun safety. You know, 370 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: you have white women in there that are fighting for 371 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 1: abortion access. But you have to understand, for the vast 372 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: majority of time, these are people that don't necessarily understand 373 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: what daily discrimination looks like. They don't know what that 374 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: Black women go through a medical term called weathering due 375 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: to daily discrimination, and it weathers on body. They don't. 376 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: They kind of started recognizing that during COVID, when black 377 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: and brown people were dying at a disproportionate rate, that 378 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: maybe that correlated with health brand and the way that 379 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: we either use I don't know, maybe cigarettes or drinking 380 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: to cope with daily discrimination or lack of opportunities and 381 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: all those other stuff. So hye poppies, Sorry, no, no, no, 382 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 1: they're just in the building and exactly they're they're just 383 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: they're just like co signing that exactly mine. Ye right. 384 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is that the reason why the 385 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: Democratic Party had long held moderation as a standard is 386 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: because you mostly like white people. Now that we have 387 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: more black people, more queer people in it, that isn't 388 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 1: necessarily the narrative anymore. All the great policies, by the way, 389 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: that I've talked about, to codify marriage equality, to quotify 390 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: abortion rights and all that stuff, most of it came 391 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: from black and brown people in Congress. If you look 392 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 1: at these battis. So that's what I'm saying. So the 393 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: Democratic Party couldn't have a long term strategy because it 394 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: did not include it for a very long time, centering 395 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: people that were the closest to the harm. So this 396 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: is why things are starting to change. But this is 397 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 1: also why we need to elect more inclusive It's not 398 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: just about representation, it's also about inclusivity. We want to 399 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: lack people that do understand the public health crisis. We 400 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 1: want people to understand that this is a as a 401 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: now situation, and and that's how it's going to change. 402 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: So I'll say that, you know, I wonder though, my 403 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 1: you know, haven't we run out of time? Because here, 404 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: like this is this is kind of this is the 405 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 1: place that I am into where I'm just like, you know, 406 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: I hear from people who are young, who are younger 407 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: right generation Z and I guess you know early still 408 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: late and millennials who are just like I've been told 409 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: that every election since the first one that I was 410 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: able to vote in is the most consequential election of 411 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: my time. I've been told for you know, every every 412 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 1: single time that like now, we're never right, this one 413 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: is actually the most consequential election of all time. And 414 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: I'm wondering if you know, if we're just pressing pause 415 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: on the catastrophe that our democracy is in, or if 416 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 1: we really do believe that if we hold on by 417 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: the skin of our teeth come November and then we 418 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: continue to hold on in twenty twenty four, which is 419 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: a real long shot, that somehow we can write this ship. 420 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,239 Speaker 1: Because to your point, we know who the problem is. 421 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: It has been six white men, hetero Christian and I 422 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 1: use quotations in power that have been the problem because 423 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: any of the things that we are seeing be thrown 424 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: out of the window in regard to our rights don't 425 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 1: affect them, right. So I'm just wondering, like, have we 426 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 1: run at a time as we were preparing for and 427 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: hoping for a demographic shift that was going to allow 428 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: us to have more representation in the way that we 429 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: needed it to have the kind of real, sustainable change 430 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 1: that is necessary to write this imbalance. So I will 431 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: say fabulous framing fabulous Russian. I will say this first, 432 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: I believe that every election is consequential. Every single election 433 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,239 Speaker 1: is consequential, every single one. I also want to make 434 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 1: a distinction really quickly. The Republican Party has such an 435 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: easy time. If you're only guarding white supremacy. Wow, you 436 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: got one goal, pretty easy. They're protecting whiteness and the 437 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: alliance of whiteness. It doesn't matter if you're black or brown, 438 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,959 Speaker 1: and in the Republican Party, you're still signing up for 439 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: the alliance of whiteness. That is what's happening in the 440 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 1: Republican Party. Okay, So they have one goal, protect white 441 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: supremacy and protect profits. That is it. The Democratic Party 442 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 1: became the Civil Rights Party in nineteen sixty four, officially 443 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 1: at that point with the signing of the Civil Rights 444 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: Act and then with the signing of the Voting Rights Act, 445 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: But that wasn't a purposeful mission of the Democratic Party. 446 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: It was like LBJ felt he wanted to, you know, 447 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: honor JFK's legacy. JFK kind of was like, I guess 448 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: we should sign in civil rights, you know, he kind 449 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: of reluctantly did it was killed. LBJ signed it in, 450 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 1: and then black people began to make the Democratic Party 451 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: what it is moving towards at that moment. So there 452 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: wasn't a long term plan because our party is only 453 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: fifty seven years old. And really, as more groups begin 454 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: to get civil rights, for example, when the nineteen ninety 455 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: Disability Act was signed in Americans with disability acquisigned, and 456 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: then you're moving more disabled people into it and more 457 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 1: disabled people, there's flit. They they're in the Republican Party 458 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: than the Democratic Party. But then also imbued our party 459 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 1: more with protections. So the Democratic Party has a little 460 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 1: bit of a harder time on messaging and long term 461 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: strategy and planning because we are the only game in town. Okay, 462 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 1: if we're the only ones that are saying we do 463 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: want gun safety, we're the only ones in town. That 464 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: we're saying we do want trans rights. We're all the 465 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: lgbtwo Q members in Congress right now, there's eleven of them. 466 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: They're all in the Democratic Party. Okay, so we have 467 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: to recognize that that is what that's what the difference 468 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: is between the two parties. Now, I will also say 469 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: this as we try to make these parties more inclusive 470 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 1: at the local, state, and federal level. The problem is 471 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: gate keeping starts at the local level. At the local level, 472 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: the demographics mirror Congress. It's overwhelmingly white, overwhelmingly wealthy. Because 473 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: people tend to think of Congress and a hierarchy, it's 474 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: not power brokers. Start right at the local level. We 475 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: should be looking at it in this kind of way. 476 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: They're the ones making decisions at the local level. That 477 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: also is funding, it's all of these things, neighborhoods, and 478 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: then obviously at the state level, that's jerrymandering, that's determining 479 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: all of these other laws, right, state laws. So all 480 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: of these are are mostly white men moving in. So 481 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: to me, if I want the Democratic Party to have 482 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 1: a plan, and they do, which is one we know 483 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: that the Republicans have decided to continue to openly behave 484 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: in an extreme way that that is never are going 485 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: to change and less the power dynamic changes. And so 486 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: for example, let me move into this that's every where 487 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: you changeing the lost. The Democrats can move the filibuster 488 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: out of the way, and then we can flood the 489 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: flood the zone with policy. But then the Democrats have 490 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: to recognize that they have to start investing more at 491 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: the local and state level too. Right now that infrastructure 492 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: is not there. I'm glad that Jamie Harrison kind of 493 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: sees that at the DNC. At the same time, it's 494 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: still really frustrating because we also need a public to 495 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: understand that if we want to change local, state, and 496 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: federal policy, we really have to be involved. And let 497 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: me tell you, like my husband and I are constantly 498 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: walking around and meeting and talking to people about politics 499 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: and policy. And the vast majority of people in this 500 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: country don't even know who their governor is, I know 501 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: who their local representative is. So there's a lot of 502 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: people that are politically involved. So unfortunately activists are doing 503 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: a lot of the heavy lifting and trying to show 504 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: up vote. So we need to get the general public 505 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: more involved. We still have a terrible vote record in 506 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: this country. This last election in twenty twenty is one 507 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: of the highest thresholds we've ever had in it was 508 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: still only sixty percent. Forty percent of people decided to 509 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: still set it out. So if we want things to change, yes, 510 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: we can totally yell up by my criticized by it 511 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: on the line all the time. I tried to be 512 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: very specific in my criticisms and very specifically in my 513 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: criticism with Congress. But we also need to criticize aspects 514 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: of the public that are sitting it out, that are brunching, 515 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: that are taking their vacations. They're allowed to do that, 516 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: but they also need to show up to vote. They 517 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: also need to show up and show that there are 518 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: people that are lives in the line. And so I 519 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: think that's where we also, I think so that's why 520 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: the conversation to me, I wanted to be more holistic 521 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: for the national conversation that I think we should be having. Yeah, 522 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: and I will I will say this that you know, 523 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: with regard to civic engagement in this country, it has 524 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: never been a value or a tenant right because if 525 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: it was, then our public education in our K through 526 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: twelfth schooling would look a hell of a lot different. 527 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: You would be graduating with your with your voter registration 528 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: as well as receiving your cap and gown in your diploma. 529 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: We would have a rigorous civic engagement program that would 530 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: be about understanding all the different facets of government so 531 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: that it is not a surprise on your eighteenth birthday 532 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: when you're able to go and pull a level in 533 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: a polling place, what that actually means, and what your 534 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: affect and what your power is at your state and 535 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: local level. There's a purpose to keeping people ignorant so 536 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,479 Speaker 1: that you're able to control them, but then blame them 537 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: at the end of the day to say, well, why 538 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: didn't you get involved? Well, I don't know enough to 539 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: get involved. And the way in which this country has 540 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: decided to miseducate me has left us with forty percent 541 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: of the population unable to unwilling to vote because a 542 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: they don't know anything, or me what they do know 543 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: is enough to make them want to sit out. Yeah, 544 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: really quickly to that there are there's a reason for 545 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: that one. New Gangridge and to the Telecommunications Act in 546 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four. New Gangridge want an experts and civics 547 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: to be done and over, and when he won control 548 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: of the House in the nineties, he made that his 549 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,719 Speaker 1: mission to pull experts out of Congress and to slow 550 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: the role on civic education programs. I'm somebody that was 551 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: civically educated when I was a young child in New Mexico, 552 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: but that has stopped. So I want you to know 553 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: that Republicans are responsible for helping getting now and then 554 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: two with the Telecommunications Act, when you stopped having two 555 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: different pundits from two different you know, I would say 556 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: on the different ends of the polar spectrum being in 557 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: the same room and having, you know, having to speak 558 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: to each other. That also ruined engagement and being able 559 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: to kind of confront the bullshit that was coming out 560 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: of like Fox News as his mouth. 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