1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: Cowboys blowing out of the backfield. 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 3: They're blowing down the sidelines. 5 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: This is Hanging with the Boys, presented by Wingstuff where 6 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 2: Flavor gets its wings. Now your hosts Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, 7 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 2: Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross. 8 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 3: It's freed T G I F And this is Hanging 9 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 3: with the Boys. That is a live look at the 10 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 3: Tostitos Championship Plaza outside in front of the for Center. Well, 11 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 3: you see some of maybe some future cowboys out there 12 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 3: running around getting their cardio in, and uh, you know, 13 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 3: you know it's young people because if you've been in Dallas, 14 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 3: you know it's hot as hell, this hot and ain't 15 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 3: old running out there, you know, those young people who 16 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 3: have reckless abandon and don't care about what the weather is. 17 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 3: Because if it was me, I don't want I don't 18 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 3: want to walk to the billbox. I don't want to 19 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: bring the trash to the curve. It is too hot outside. 20 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 3: We're waiting on a phone call from Nate. Shannon is 21 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 3: out today, so I'm in the captain's seat. But uh, 22 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 3: that would be Shannon if he was here. Nate's on 23 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 3: the way, Jazz in the back. This is Kurt Daniels 24 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 3: eye and salt and Pepper Poppy. Together. We make Hanging 25 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 3: with the Boys the sports talk equivalent of Braille. People 26 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 3: fee us when we speak. This segment is bored to 27 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 3: you by wing stop where flavor gets its weez and uh, 28 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 3: let's jump right into it. The Cowboys make some signings, 29 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 3: uh the other day in lieu of the Sam Williams injury. 30 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 3: Let me get the names up because I'm definitely gonna 31 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 3: mispronounce these names. 32 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 4: Uh. 33 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 3: The Cowboys signed to Edge Rusher's Shaka Tony Penn State 34 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 3: former teammate of one MICHAELH. Parsons, and our Quaheen Muhammad. 35 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 3: Uh Jersey guy. Jersey guy. Actually, his cousin texts me yesterday, 36 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 3: who's a good friend of mine for a very long time, And. 37 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 4: It was like, hey, maybe maybe maybe. 38 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 3: But this this to some is understandable, right. The Cowboys 39 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 3: need the depth with the loss of Sam Williams to 40 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 3: the to the a c L injury and already at 41 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 3: a very thin position. But it's frustrated Kurt some of 42 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 3: the Cowboy fans because when you have guys like Carl 43 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 3: Lawson out there, some other more notable names Yakaway, Uh, 44 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 3: Yannick andway excuse me out there. The Cowboys go for 45 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 3: the often troubled borrow dollar players, right, both of them 46 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 3: coming off we'll still on suspension. 47 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 4: Yeah one of them. No, Yeah, Mohammed was he still 48 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 4: missed a game. 49 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 3: If he's here at the beginning of the season, he 50 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 3: still lowds the nfl A game one was for performing enhancing. 51 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 3: That's Mohammed, and Tony was for shake him up, Shake 52 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 3: him up, shake him up, shake him gambling. 53 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's concerning. I guess he's been cleared. 54 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 3: So yeah, he's been cleared and and and you know, 55 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 3: if you do that, if you do your time for 56 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 3: your crime, you gotta be you know, moving past him. 57 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 4: Is this? 58 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 3: It's just what do you make of it. 59 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 4: I didn't expect like some savior to come walking through 60 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 4: the door. I expected pretty much what we got, which 61 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 4: is bodies depth. I don't think either one of these 62 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,839 Speaker 4: guys are gonna bring a lot. I think one of them, 63 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 4: and I apologize, can't keep keep straight on Muhammed, I 64 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 4: think was basically a seventh round special teams guy only 65 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 4: played one year practice squad guy, and Tony he's got 66 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 4: some more experience, but again he's not He's not gonna, 67 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,119 Speaker 4: you know, set records here or anything, I don't think. 68 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 4: But they need they need depth. 69 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 3: Any body's training camp is is a long, drawing out thing. 70 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 3: It's a month worth of working out. Side note which 71 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 3: I'll bring it back to this particular topic with the 72 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 3: two signs of the Cowboys. Got a chance to watch 73 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 3: football last night, Bears and Houston. I checked it out 74 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 3: before the rain terminated the game, as they said, terminated 75 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 3: the game. And the one thing that stuck out to 76 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 3: me when it came to the new kickoff rule, and 77 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 3: it wasn't that I liked it disliked it. What I 78 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 3: realized was, and this is when you start looking at 79 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 3: some of the sign these teams won't make. There used 80 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 3: to be a period in time and when when I 81 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 3: was in football, early in my career, when Nate was 82 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 3: in football, there was all there was the wedge, right 83 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 3: the wedge. You needed a couple of greasy folks back there. 84 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 3: You have some seventies and eighties, some seventies, some ninety 85 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 3: numbers back there. And of course over time they went 86 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 3: from the wedge being a four man holding hands to 87 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 3: a two x two wedge. And then now they have 88 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 3: this new advent of what the kickoff is for safety 89 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 3: reasons and trying to get more excited back in the 90 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 3: kickoff game. But what I did notice is you're going 91 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 3: to need more receivers, running backs, tight ends, linebacker type 92 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 3: players because what you don't want to have in that 93 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 3: type of close quarters and needing some sort of flexibility 94 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 3: of movement is fat boys. 95 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, there's too much space. 96 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 5: No, I'm just saying, I'm just saying, no disrespect, no disrespect, 97 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 5: no disrespect, no disrespect. 98 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 3: But the days of the big boys being able to 99 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 3: really be a contributing figure and something like that. And 100 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 3: that's on the rushing, that's on the kick off part 101 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 3: and on the blocking part, because it is. 102 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 4: That's a lot of fans are asking why Sam Williams 103 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 4: was even out there on special teams. This is when 104 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 4: he got hurt. Yeah, this is exactly why. He's a 105 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 4: big guy who can move. He can move and that's 106 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 4: what they're gonna eat in. 107 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 6: This yesterday that was big in the special teams coach 108 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 6: media man, how he was truly just set back by 109 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 6: the Sam Williams athlete like that of that size, the 110 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 6: many multiple things he could do, the possibility of reverses 111 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 6: and stuff that really hurt him. I think he took 112 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 6: it just as hard as the defensive drive team took it. Man, 113 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 6: you're right, Sam Williams, that was a big deal. He 114 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 6: was in his plans and bore ways than one. 115 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're talking about did you like it? I 116 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 3: like it. I think it's going to be I think 117 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 3: once you start getting into the real game planning of it. 118 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 3: I don't think people are going to show a lot 119 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 3: during the preseason just because they don't want to give 120 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 3: their tips and clues and tricks that they may try 121 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 3: to run during the season. I like it. What you're 122 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 3: going to need from a returner standpoint, you're gonna need 123 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 3: kind of almost vision running back vision, right, because you're 124 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 3: talking about going from a stopping kind of thing to 125 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 3: everybody's down moving, So you got to be able to 126 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 3: find those holes and be able to put your foot 127 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 3: in the ground. Sometimes you hit running back play talk 128 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 3: about slow to fast through. So sometime this is gonna 129 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 3: be reading and setting up blocks for yourself more so 130 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 3: than it was the other way, because you had that 131 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 3: forty yard thirty five yard head start to come down there. 132 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 3: This is more close, tight quarters, and it resembles to 133 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 3: me a little bit of the punt return in the 134 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 3: sense of if you make the first guy miss, watch out. Yeah, 135 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 3: if you make the first if you get through that 136 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 3: first tackler, now we're cooking with Frish grease, you know 137 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 3: what I mean. And so I think it's gonna bring 138 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 3: a little bit more excitement to the game, the special 139 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 3: teams game. And I love the fact that it still 140 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 3: gives the importance for jobs for players like Jesse Holly. 141 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 3: Sure right, because if you can be a star in 142 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 3: these type of roles, whether that's blocking or covering the kicks, 143 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 3: because it's going to be more imperative than ever now 144 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 3: because now you know, if you kicking into the end zone, 145 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 3: it's a twenty yard it comes out to the twenty, right, 146 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 3: there's a certain zone that you have to play in. 147 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 3: But you know, if you can bring it out to 148 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 3: the thirty. So you know what I'm saying, You want 149 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 3: to have those hitting yards. And so that part about 150 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 3: giving jobs and keeping jobs for those players who are 151 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 3: you know, roster spot forty two or fifty three you 152 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,719 Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like those spots are still now 153 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 3: available for that fifth and sixth receiver, for that fifth 154 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 3: and six dB, for that fifth and sixth and seventh linebacker, 155 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 3: for that seventh and eighth defensive linemen. 156 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 6: Those type of things you don't forget. And that extra 157 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 6: extra special team assistance too. 158 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 3: That's absolutely, absolutely, absolutely, So you get why the bodies 159 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 3: are necessary and these signings not just one but two 160 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 3: players is because these guys will probably be in the 161 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 3: part of the special teams as well as the rotation 162 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 3: that you have now with uh Sam Williams lost. 163 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 4: When I first saw this, I wondered if teams would 164 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 4: try like having a safety. Remember Jeff Heath kicks, and 165 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 4: there's some guys can do it. It's a pretty narrow 166 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 4: window that you got to drop the ball into, so 167 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 4: take some actress, especially if you're kicking to the sidelines 168 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 4: or something. But man, like you said, you mean, you 169 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 4: break through that first line, you're gone, You're gone. You 170 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 4: need a guy back there who could maybe bring down 171 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 4: bring down you. 172 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 3: Know who the Cowboys can probably use right now. Bueler, 173 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 3: we were teammates. He was an athlete. Bueler was an athlete. 174 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 3: He was a guy who can kick it off and 175 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 3: run down there and actually thud up. 176 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 6: So Jef apologize coming in late that did you talk 177 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 6: about when they kicked the ball you have to always 178 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 6: touch it, always covered as a returner that you all, 179 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 6: you can't it hit the ground at any time and 180 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 6: even go out of bounce out of the back of 181 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 6: the end zone. You have to go handle the ball 182 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 6: because if you don't, it's a touchdown for the other teams. 183 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 3: No, we we haven't dug all the way into the 184 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 3: new rule. I was just I was. 185 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 7: Saying that house well, I was saying when I watched 186 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 7: the game last night, what came to my mind was 187 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 7: that you're going to need more athletic dudes now on specialties. 188 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 3: So when you add these guys like the Muhammad signing 189 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 3: and the Tony signing, you know he's a guy who, 190 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 3: yes they played defensive end, but a guy like Sam 191 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 3: Williams who at times last year played gunner like so 192 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 3: you know, you know when people asking, like Kurt was saying, 193 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 3: people asked the question of why was Sam Wims even 194 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 3: on special teams, Well, it's for this very reason, because 195 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 3: you need big, fast, strong athletic guys you can get 196 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 3: down the field, shed a block and still be able 197 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 3: to get to that returner before he breaks to that 198 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 3: that second level, because if he does, it's gonna be 199 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 3: it's gonna be hit his head on the gold post. 200 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 4: Right up the band. It's gonna be fun, though. I 201 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,719 Speaker 4: think it will create more. I mean, the kickoffs have 202 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 4: become practically useless, so this will add some excitement to 203 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 4: that portion of it. 204 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 3: Still talking about training camp, Nate, Uh, was there an 205 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 3: update on Eric Kendricks. He was dealing with a back issue. 206 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 3: I was listening to the Mike McCarthy presser. Uh, any 207 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 3: update on on on Eric's Is he out there practicing? 208 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 3: Is he moving around? Brown? 209 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 6: Check the list? And then Jazz called me and I 210 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 6: realized that I had this show, so I ran back in. Wow, 211 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 6: I mean, yes, I ran back and I. 212 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 3: Had this show I've only been doing for the last 213 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 3: seven years. And every time my guys that's supposed to 214 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 3: be my friends, okay, every time I. 215 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 4: Look on the screen, Nate's on somebody's shoes. 216 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 6: I did not have a chance, but when she did, 217 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 6: I was like, oh my god, I gotta do the 218 00:11:55,480 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 6: Showy leaves me on the porch, But I'm telling right, 219 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 6: hill man, It's just it's been a joy to watch 220 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 6: these guys frightened. 221 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 8: Man. 222 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 6: Yes, uh, he's been having back spatsman. I don't I 223 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 6: don't think it's nothing major, but wow, I mean, I 224 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 6: guess it's just the age and the time and the 225 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,719 Speaker 6: position that he plays, you know, because when I get 226 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 6: back out there, when he's been in there a few times, 227 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 6: he's been in there, he's been thumping folks. He's been 228 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 6: making these guards and centers pad up with with with 229 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 6: with the right type of lateral movement and squarreenness. They 230 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 6: ain't coming at him half with a half a shoulder. 231 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 6: They coming at him to try to punish you, because 232 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 6: he would thump you and then he would give you 233 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 6: the old a Once he gets you leaning forward, he 234 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 6: give you the old age, slitting behind you and hit 235 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 6: the back. So he's he's he's wildly, he's a veteran, 236 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 6: he's a good coat, he's a decent covered guy. But 237 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 6: he's a thumper. He'll come downhill. Now it's been a while, 238 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 6: like to say, we have linebackers here in the last 239 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 6: few years that would just come downhill like that. 240 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 3: And see, I think for me and I said this 241 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 3: on Twitter the other day. One of the things that 242 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 3: I want to see with my own eyes when I 243 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 3: get to camp in a week or so, I want 244 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 3: to see Eric Kendricks because I think when you talk 245 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 3: about this team and its deficiencies, and we talked about 246 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 3: dan Quinn last year, the absence of a true linebacker 247 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 3: in the middle of that defense, and Eric, who comes 248 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 3: with a wealth of experience as the guy who knows 249 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 3: Zim's system. My thing is, now, we can't overlook it's 250 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 3: thirty two years old. Right, He's thirty two years old, 251 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 3: and this is not this is not me trying to 252 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 3: nitpick this thing, but I want to see. I want 253 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 3: to see the ladder movement, the quickness. I want to 254 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 3: see the engaging and separating from when those guards and 255 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 3: the sinners come up to that next level to try 256 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 3: to block him. I want to see will he because 257 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 3: will he be able to last throughout the season, Because 258 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 3: you can come out the gates hot and then you 259 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 3: wear down over the season. Because one of the things 260 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 3: that we talked about for the Cowboys is we got 261 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 3: to get some guys in that middle right to keep 262 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 3: our linebackers free flowing. So now and he had that Minnesota. 263 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 3: He had that for a long time in Minnesota, and 264 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 3: the scheme that he was in. He had some big 265 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 3: boys up front that kind of kept the offensive linement 266 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 3: off of them. 267 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 4: But we saw what happened when vander esk left last year. 268 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, they really struggled. I think losing Kendricks 269 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 4: could be that same thing. You need him in there, 270 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 4: and so that's what I want to see. 271 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 3: I want to see how is he looking, you know, 272 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 3: is he able to move lout to really cover some backs, 273 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 3: cover some tight ends. You know, because if you have 274 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 3: him throughout the whole year and he's playing at a 275 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 3: high level, you got a great You got a really 276 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 3: good player. I'm not saying great, you got a really, really, 277 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 3: really good, solid football player. But when you lose him, now, 278 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 3: what are we talking about? Right, we're talking about now 279 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 3: we're going back to Clark and overshown takes and I know, 280 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 3: and we'll talk about it on the other side of 281 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 3: his break. But Micah has talked about let's do that. 282 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 3: Let's go to a break when we come back from 283 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 3: a break. Micah talked, go figure, No, I'm playing. 284 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 4: Talk for the Cowboys. 285 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 3: Mike talked for the Michael talked for the Cowboys, and 286 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 3: he said some good things about the way that Zim 287 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 3: has been using him so far in this training camp. 288 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 3: We'll dive more into it, talk about so many other 289 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 3: things going on a Cowboys football camp. They're in pads 290 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 3: again today, so stay right here with the hang with 291 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 3: the boys. 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It's funny 338 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 3: that we have to now kind of keep count of 339 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 3: padded practices. 340 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 4: That's that's that's insane, Like what five or six? That's insane, 341 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 4: Like you get them to twice a day. 342 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 3: I know, I sound like the I sound like the 343 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 3: grumpy old get off my law dude, But you know 344 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Nate, we come from that, We come 345 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 3: from that culture of It was two days padded practice. Yeah. 346 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 3: It wasn't no time how long we're gonna be out 347 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 3: there either. It wasn't no hour forty five minutes, two 348 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 3: hours we're watching. 349 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 4: Nah, it was hot where guys getting injured? Yeah, I 350 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 4: mean anymore than you would now it. 351 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 3: It didn't seem like it. Maybe it got the tougher 352 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 3: I don't know, but boy, it was. It was. It 353 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 3: was I remember, uh And they still have it and 354 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 3: it was a stark reminder to me every single day. 355 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 3: My first team was the Bengals. And if you've ever 356 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 3: been to the Bengals Stadium, a Bengals game, a Bengals practice, 357 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 3: the Bengals practice facility is right across the street from 358 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 3: the stadium. There's no tunnel, there's no bridge or anything 359 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 3: like that. So you got to walk out of the stadium, 360 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 3: in through the parking lot, and then out on the 361 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 3: street across the street and there's a practice field. But 362 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 3: what's felt very unique right by the practice field is 363 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 3: this rock quarry, right It's literally right by the field. 364 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 3: And so it was a reminder every single day. You 365 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 3: walk out of this stadium and you have two options. 366 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 4: You can get dressed in the stadium. 367 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 3: You get dressed in the stadium, and then you walk 368 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 3: across the street cleats and all that kind of stuff, 369 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 3: and they'll have like you know, have cops and stuff 370 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 3: outside and stop traffic and all that. But there was 371 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 3: always there was always a decision that had to be made. 372 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 3: And it's hot, and like in the summertime, and and 373 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 3: and the Ohio River is like right there, so the 374 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 3: heat's coming off the river and all that kind of 375 00:19:55,920 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 3: stuff is humid. Can get dressed, and you can suffer 376 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 3: whatever you gotta suffer, and you can walk across the 377 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 3: street and be a football player, or you can suffer 378 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,479 Speaker 3: and go outside in this heat, and you could be 379 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 3: you could be filling up a truck with rocks. That 380 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 3: was my reminder every single day. Like I had just come, 381 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 3: you know, I was like, you know, out of college. 382 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 3: I was like, dude, I could be I could be 383 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,719 Speaker 3: breaking down these rocks over here, this rock for and 384 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 3: filling tanking trucks. 385 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 6: Rocks, Fred and Bonnie. 386 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, Or I could be walking over here 387 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 3: to this practice field and my feet hurt, my back hurt, 388 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 3: my knees hurt. Sure, but I'm doing it in the 389 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 3: NFL uniform. My feet hurt, my back hurt, my knees 390 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 3: could be hurting, and I could be busting down what 391 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 3: is gemstones or whatever over here and the concrete at 392 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,959 Speaker 3: this rock. So it's a very it's a very realistic 393 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 3: reminder of hard work of the day to day hard work. 394 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 3: You go over here for two three hours, they over 395 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 3: there for eight hours in the same heat, and they 396 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 3: you know, there's a difference. There's a difference. There is 397 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 3: a difference. But the Cowboys don't have to worry about that. 398 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 3: They're in sunny, cool, ox Star California on the grass field. 399 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 3: That's good for your knees, easy living, seventy degree weather, 400 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 3: easy breezy, beautiful cover girl weather out there for the 401 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys. 402 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 6: Uh. 403 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 3: We had Michael Parsons. He spoke. He did spoken some 404 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 3: words into a microphone that wasn't his podcast. I'm just 405 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 3: messing with you. I know people get on me because 406 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 3: I say things about Michael. It's okay, it's all right. 407 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 3: Michael spoke to the media yesterday and was asked a 408 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 3: question about, you know, how does he feel about the 409 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 3: way that Mike Zimmer is using him, and Michael quoted, uh, 410 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 3: zim will be moving me around more, said Michaeh. It's 411 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 3: something that I. 412 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 4: Appreciate, expanding his versatility. Versatility, And yeah, I mean it's 413 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 4: I think we've all kind of been asking for that 414 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 4: in some ways. But I also feel like we've kind 415 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 4: of heard that every year. It's like I'm going to 416 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 4: be doing more and then once the game's come, you'll 417 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 4: well reillly or really not. I was Zimmer. 418 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 3: It sounds like you will, I think, And you tell me, Nate, 419 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 3: because you've been out there at practice from what you've 420 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 3: seen and are able to report. Have you seen the versatility? 421 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 3: Have you seen Michael being moved around and and if 422 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 3: he's been moved around world some of them, is it linebacker, 423 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 3: is it middle? Is it weak? Is it sam? 424 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 6: Uh has been It's been everywhere. Yes, you know, it's 425 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 6: been like his rookie year. Remember his rookie year, he 426 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 6: was he was everywhere until they had the injury and 427 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 6: then he locked himself in over at the uh uh 428 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 6: right defensive end, left defensive end. If he's playing from 429 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 6: a defensive standpoint, he's been everywhere during the pressure drills 430 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 6: where you know, putting pressure on the quarterback and then 431 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 6: the run games, uh first and second down, and he's 432 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 6: been everywhere. He's been at Sam, he's been at the mike, 433 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 6: he's been up in the line, he's been at defensive end, 434 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 6: mostly the right defensive end. If he have come from 435 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 6: a defensive standpoint. So he's been everywhere. Man, he's been 436 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 6: back in coverage, and you know me and you always 437 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 6: said that every time he dropped back that as a loss. 438 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 6: But the order for him to last throughout the season, 439 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 6: he can't just bang every play because us, as according 440 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 6: as you know this Jef according to saying, we want 441 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 6: to hit him every play. You want to wear him down. 442 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 6: And if you can get you free yourself up to 443 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 6: move around and not every play be a bang bang play. 444 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 6: As the season go on, you're going to be more 445 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 6: you're going to be fresher. And he found out that 446 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 6: more weight did not help him. More weight hindered him. 447 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 6: So he's lost five or six, maybe ten pounds. He 448 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 6: looks better, he's bouncing around, h he's doing what he's 449 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 6: got to do, and he's running his defense. 450 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 4: Well, there was I remember back in OTA's and many 451 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 4: can there's a lot of hand ringing about Michael wasn't here, 452 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 4: he wasn't building chemistry, he wasn't learning Zimmers new defense. 453 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 4: I was guilty of that myself. I thought he should 454 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 4: have been here. But sounds like that doesn't really matter. 455 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 3: Not yet. I mean all this stuff that we talk 456 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 3: about now again it's from a myopic perspective because we 457 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 3: won't truly know the way that the game has changed. 458 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 3: We at least used to get a preview, right, We 459 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 3: at least used to get that third preseason game, used 460 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 3: to kind of be that vet. We used to kind 461 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 3: of be able to tell a little bit about something. 462 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 3: But the way that the game has changed so much, 463 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 3: we won't really be able to tell whether it's working 464 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 3: or not working, whether it needs to be changed or 465 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 3: just until we get into the season. And to Nate's point, 466 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 3: I'm starting to agree more and more with Nate. Those 467 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 3: first three games for those veteran guys are like the preseason, 468 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 3: and there's only so much that you can do because 469 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 3: of the lack of practice time, the lack of practices, 470 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 3: the lack of a bunch of things, So you don't 471 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 3: get a chance to fully and truly see if all 472 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 3: the things that you were manifesting came into fruition on 473 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 3: the football fields, and then you're able to adjust off 474 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 3: that throughout the season. And I think there's a few 475 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 3: things that I think the versatility gives Micah, and to 476 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 3: piggyback off with Nate said, one of the things that 477 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 3: you heard a lot about offensive coordinators last year and 478 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 3: feel how you feel about Dan Quinn. I mean, I 479 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 3: know that people soured on him towards the end of 480 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 3: his tenure here at the Cowboys. They were big on him, 481 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 3: you know, early on the things that he was able 482 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 3: to do in the versatility he was able to give 483 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 3: a lot of players. But for Micah, it was when 484 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 3: he lined up on the right side offensive coordinators, offensive 485 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,719 Speaker 3: line coaches knew that's where he's gonna be at, so 486 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 3: we can gain plan and we can prepare for that. 487 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 3: The thing about Mike Zimmer, and this is not this 488 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 3: is not specific to Mike. Every offensive court in the 489 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 3: defensive coordinator has their signature, and for Mike it's the 490 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 3: double a gap blitz. That's when you talk about. For 491 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 3: those who don't know, here's what a double a glap 492 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 3: blitz is. Take the center. Okay, you have your center, 493 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 3: and there's a gap on the left side of the center, 494 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 3: and there's a gap on the right side of the center. 495 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 3: The double a gap blitz is Mike Zimmer lines two 496 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 3: guys basically standing over top of the center in those 497 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 3: two gaps, and what he does is sometimes is that 498 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 3: he'll have both of those guys, pressure those guys, making 499 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 3: those guards come down and help that center out, which 500 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 3: gives now what one on one matchup outside with the 501 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 3: defensive ends. All right, pick a side, whatever the side 502 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 3: of the titan is not on. Sometimes he brings one, 503 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 3: drops the other. Sometimes he may drop both. Sometimes there 504 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 3: may be some sort of stunting from that. But being 505 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 3: able to move Micah around in those different spots, whether 506 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 3: it's defensive end, whether it's you know, traditional linebacker, whether 507 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 3: it's the double a gap blitz, you're creating a confusion 508 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 3: with the offensive line, with the quarterback, with the running 509 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 3: back of who would we have to block because when 510 00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 3: you line those guys up in there, that that tight. 511 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 3: The center now has to and the quarterback as well. 512 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 3: We had to declare those guys. We have to declare them. 513 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,959 Speaker 3: We have to we have we basically have to declare 514 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 3: them down linemen, and these guys are coming yeah, yeah, right. 515 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 3: And so what you're now hoping is that there's a 516 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 3: confusion that we call this this, and now somebody messes 517 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 3: up and there's a guy running Scott free, or I 518 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 3: get Micah on a sinner who can't move as good 519 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 3: latterly and he uses the speed and quickness and that 520 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 3: letter says, and to beat him and gets in the 521 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 3: pressure of the quarterbacks face and disrupt the play. Uh 522 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 3: so I like it, I think. 523 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 4: Do you think this? I mean he said that Sam 524 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 4: Williams injury isn't changing his plane at all, Mike, I 525 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 4: said that. But I find that a little bit hard 526 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 4: to believe because you were counting on a rush. 527 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 6: It won't. It won't. They are believing in Marshan God 528 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 6: Good Kneeland, They're believing in Chauncey. They believe that these 529 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 6: guys are going to the job because the skey that 530 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 6: they have for Micah h it enhances to give other 531 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 6: guys one on ones where the piggyback on what Jets 532 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 6: said earlier. If you can get that double a blitz going, 533 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 6: all you need is hesitation in this game, a split 534 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 6: second for Micah to do what he wants or d 535 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 6: Law to do what he wants, because that means a 536 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 6: guard is trying to get out of out of their late. 537 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 6: Our back is trying to get out of the late 538 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 6: from checking the middle. So all at the worst you 539 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 6: want some hesitation. Uh it is enough time still so 540 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 6: you can find out what these other guys are about, 541 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 6: these young guys are about. So you you just just 542 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 6: let it, let it keep working itself out, and we'll see, 543 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 6: because I don't see where they have to do more 544 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 6: down lineman stuff. He knows how to be a down lineman. 545 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 6: The Farsan knows how to be a writer or left 546 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 6: defensive end. But what he's got to do is get 547 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 6: a little bit of his instincts back at that linebacker. 548 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 6: And once he do that, man, there's no stopping him. 549 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 6: Always have said, and I think Justin said the same thing. 550 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 6: There's another level to Michael. If he wants to find 551 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 6: that next level. Here it is now you want to 552 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 6: be that dominant player. Now you want to at the 553 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 6: end of the years still be able because you may 554 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 6: not be getting in sacks, but now you got one 555 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 6: or two interceptions, or you got two or three hits 556 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 6: for big hits for losses that caused fumbles with a 557 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 6: running back. That is part of the game too, that 558 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 6: he has not mastered. If once he mastered that, now 559 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 6: you can start talking about the Miles Garrett or the 560 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 6: kid or the JJ kidd up there at TJJ. Yeah, 561 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 6: it's it's so much more to this game. Than sacks. 562 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 6: Saxon is not taking us to the second round. But 563 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 6: fumbles will, interceptions will, It'll take you to the second round. 564 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 3: And from a from a former football player, analyst now 565 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 3: observer of the game, if there's one thing that I've 566 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 3: watched over time, and this goes back to a lot 567 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 3: of the cries from the fans, And I don't mean 568 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 3: that in the negative way. I just mean the HARKing 569 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 3: and the moaning and groaning about it. 570 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 6: Right. 571 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 3: We talked about Micah and the holding penalties, and this 572 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 3: is the one thing if you're a fan, here's something 573 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 3: that you can watch when you you know, I saw 574 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 3: it a lot, even when you start. When I watched 575 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 3: the clipse the other day from the battle that he 576 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 3: and Tyler Goyton had. One of the things that Micah 577 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 3: I think can do a better job improving on is 578 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 3: not allowing the offensive tackle and other offensive linemen to 579 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 3: get their hands on him like he rushes, like he 580 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 3: has to do a better job with And we talked 581 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 3: about it with Dyton about the long arms Micah sometimes 582 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 3: rushes into. Instead of kind of creating these spaces that 583 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 3: you want, these edges that you want, Micah sometimes allows 584 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 3: offensive linemen to get their hands on him. He does, 585 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 3: and he wants the holding calls. But you've you've run 586 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 3: into the chest of him. He's gonna grab you, and 587 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 3: more often than not, the referee is gonna look at 588 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 3: that and saying, well, you ain't trying to get away 589 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 3: from him. You ran right into him. So if you 590 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 3: run right into a bear and he grabs you, tough 591 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 3: titty said they you know what I'm saying, Like, that's 592 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 3: a little. 593 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 6: New, little breaking news yet little breaking news. Number twenty 594 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 6: four Israel Maquamos just walked off the fields went to 595 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 6: the training. I don't know he walked off of his 596 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 6: own clocking and sitting out, but he's going to the 597 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 6: training to training. So that's just a little something right there. 598 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 3: Okay, let's hope. Let's hope Israel, and we didn't been 599 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 3: to the other day Israel going out. But off the 600 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 3: pup list came Trayvon Diggs. Trayvon Diggs is back in 601 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 3: the mixing bubble. Yeah, yeah, when you're in that bubble 602 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 3: with the way Carson's being talked about talking about Jorge 603 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 3: Lulis talked about he's playing some good football, and of 604 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 3: course you got playing digs. You know, those guys can 605 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 3: do things. But back to the point before we go 606 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 3: to our final break, it's just you know, Micah just 607 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 3: being able to get his hands. When you watch the 608 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 3: good pass rushers, they eliminate defensive I'm sorry, they eliminate 609 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 3: offensive tackles and guards on getting their hands on them 610 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 3: by any means. And you see the drills where they 611 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 3: come in and know because that tackle it's it's this 612 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 3: cat and mouse game right right. I want to kick 613 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 3: away from the line of scrimmage, and I want to 614 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 3: keep my hands setting ready to go until you get 615 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 3: just about close enough where I can boom. And now 616 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 3: that that's a shock, I want to shock you to 617 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 3: slow you down a bit, because that slows you down. 618 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 3: It sounds simple, but if I shock you for a second, 619 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 3: the ball's gone, it's out of there. The running backs 620 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 3: come by. But if I don't get a hand on 621 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 3: you and you come around, that that could be. And 622 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 3: I think Micah sometimes allows those guys to just to 623 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 3: get his hands, and that's why he doesn't get the 624 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 3: holding calls that he wants, because he sometimes rolls down 625 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 3: to right down the middle of those tackles and they 626 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 3: let that they let that flo a little bit in 627 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 3: the national football and you can flay your arms if 628 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 3: you want, but if you run right down the middle 629 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 3: of them, they're gonna know. But so much more for 630 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 3: Micah to achieve. And I think with Zim and I, 631 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 3: if all works out well, if the knowledge of teaching 632 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 3: it and Micah being able to go out there and 633 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 3: executing it, that's the big part. Teaching it, applying it, 634 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 3: and executing it. If that can happen, I think bigger 635 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 3: things for Micah in this defense. Let's head to our 636 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 3: our last break. Nate, you're staying with us, so you 637 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 3: are you? 638 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,479 Speaker 6: Are you out right with your halfway through? Yes? 639 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Nate's gonna ride with us. 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You know, Tank gave high praise for Zim. 696 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 3: Uh said, with Quinn, it was all about speed, and 697 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 3: with Zim, it's more about details, fundamentals. 698 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 4: What do you think about that? 699 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 3: We think about that, Nate. 700 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 6: I think it's a good thing. I think both things work. 701 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 6: The only flaw that coach Quinn had the only flaw 702 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 6: man and I hope he fixed this in Washington, but 703 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:20,839 Speaker 6: not against the Cowboys. Don't trust players, don't say hey, 704 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 6: don't give them options, make them learn your defense, make 705 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 6: them run your defense, because this defense worked when they 706 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 6: put their foot down. Is when you start your leader. 707 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 6: When your leaders start freelancing and doing what they want 708 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 6: and the whole team start doesn't, and that's when you 709 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,800 Speaker 6: get into the playoffs and things just go fall apart. 710 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 6: We're hoping that don't happen with them. I don't think 711 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 6: Zim will be easy to trust the way coach Quinn did. 712 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 4: Everybody's talked about him being a hard ass. Do you 713 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 4: see that out there on the field. 714 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 6: No, he tells you what he wants you, puts your 715 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 6: in position, and he hammers that home. It's only a 716 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 6: few select players that won't get snatched out of the game. 717 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 10: You know. 718 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 6: We know who that one or two guys is. The 719 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 6: rest of them get snatched out of the game. You know, like, hey, bro, 720 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 6: you're not doing what we actually to do. We need 721 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 6: to have somebody that can do it. That's what it's about. 722 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 6: When you prove that you know how to play within this. 723 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 6: D Jesse would tell you, once you learn the defense 724 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 6: are you learn your offense and you learn your routes 725 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 6: to perfection and know where the quarterback runs the where 726 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 6: the quarterback want to throw the ball. It ain't always 727 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 6: about the route, it's just being there on time to 728 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 6: receive a ball because the quarterback trusts that you're going 729 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 6: to be there. And that's what these guys never have 730 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 6: done here on defense over the last few years. They don't. 731 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 6: You don't have a trust that they can do this, 732 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 6: and that is that is the difference. Prove that. 733 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I would say on a consistent basis, that's 734 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 3: the biggest thing is is you know, can you do 735 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:55,760 Speaker 3: it on a consistent basis? 736 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 6: Yeah? Yes. 737 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,359 Speaker 3: You know, one position that we haven't talked about, haven't 738 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 3: heard much about doing training camp is a running back position. 739 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 3: You know, the Cowboys brought in, brought Zeke back, and 740 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 3: they got a guy in Pete. You got Duds Won, 741 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,839 Speaker 3: you got Rico, Dado, you got who is the other 742 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 3: one they have from the Rams? 743 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 6: Shot Blank, you got Skitten Snoop Connor, you got Malik. 744 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 3: Roman. We're not We're not hearing much about anybody kind 745 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 3: of separating themselves. Is you know, is it Zeke's show? 746 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:33,799 Speaker 3: Is it rico show? 747 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 10: Is is. 748 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 6: It has been a separation every time Dak sayn is, Ezekiel, 749 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 6: Rico and Hanter Lempkey. Those are the three guys that 750 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,800 Speaker 6: are in with him. The rest of the guys just 751 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 6: flow through as they come, you know. So that I mean, 752 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 6: if that's you know, I don't know if that's called separation. 753 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 6: But those other three guys, especially in the nickel, we 754 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 6: see Lip can get a lot of the runner and 755 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 6: the nickel in two minute type drill. 756 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,360 Speaker 4: Really, why is that? 757 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:06,959 Speaker 3: I wonder? 758 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 6: Uh, he can catch the ball now he catched the 759 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,800 Speaker 6: ball coming out of the back till uh and the 760 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 6: other guys just rotating in periodically. You know, Zeko run 761 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 6: the first two or three plays, then he come out. 762 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 6: Then Uh, ric O'donald come in and get two or 763 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 6: three plays and by that time back out. 764 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 4: You know, is there anybody in that group that you 765 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 4: would consider explosive? 766 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 5: Uh? 767 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 6: Out of those three Rico, Rico will probably be your 768 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 6: most explosive because deep deep looks good. But ain't nobody 769 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 6: it ain't been no wearing tearn. I mean, so we'll 770 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,320 Speaker 6: see that the season go on. A lot of this 771 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 6: is gonna come down. Fellas to he always hit me 772 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 6: say these first three or four games. You know, they 773 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,800 Speaker 6: like a lot of these guys. But we'll see. Because 774 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 6: our offensive line, until they decide who is the starters, 775 00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 6: we don't know who offensive line is. That is the 776 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 6: big question. That is the big I mean, besides the 777 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 6: Sam Williams injury. The big question is who is the 778 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 6: starting time for the Dallas Cowboys oppensive mind. That's my 779 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 6: big question. Until you settle that, ain't nothing settled. 780 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 3: Well, that's an internal thing. The external big the external 781 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 3: big question that some people UH may may talk about 782 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 3: a lot. We we know UH City, Lamb's contract. We 783 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 3: know that Prescott contract soon after this season is going 784 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 3: to be Michael Parsons. And this is this is a 785 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:36,360 Speaker 3: topic that as long as you're breathing and the NFL 786 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 3: is fully functioned and will be an issue in every 787 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:43,320 Speaker 3: training camp every single year, because everybody wants bread, everybody 788 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 3: wants their fair share of the pie, right philosophically speaking, 789 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 3: And you know, sometimes you want to know, does this 790 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 3: affect the locker room? What are other guys saying? There's 791 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 3: no CD of Lamb, there's no you know, whether you're 792 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 3: you're the Niners, there's no Trip Williams. And you can 793 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 3: pick a team. There's a guy if you're the if 794 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 3: you're the Jets, there's no Hassan Riddick. You pick a 795 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 3: guy that's a valuable piece of the puzzle who's probably 796 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 3: not in camp because they want their cheddar. How is 797 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 3: that conversation holding out in camp, holding out in your 798 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 3: in your days, how did your locker room or how 799 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,839 Speaker 3: did players you think kind of handle that deal when 800 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 3: it came to contracts like that. 801 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 6: Jesse, we had no problem with tenn in the media. 802 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 6: He needed to get his money. We'll saying when he 803 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 6: gets his money, you know how it will back up. 804 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,399 Speaker 6: We want politically correcognized. We'll saying when he get his money, 805 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 6: get this man his money. That by the only time 806 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 6: we just out with this talked against management. Get this 807 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 6: man his money, because you wanted that brother or that 808 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 6: man to say the same for you if you was 809 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,359 Speaker 6: holding out, give this man his money. 810 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 3: I agree. I echo those sentiments when it comes to 811 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 3: the contract talks. Because one of two, one or two 812 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,440 Speaker 3: things is it gonna happen, Not one or two things. 813 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 3: One thing is gonna happen. You're gonna be in those 814 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 3: shoes at some point in time. You hope, right right, 815 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,719 Speaker 3: You hope. You hope that you know what, when the 816 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 3: day comes that I get a chance to to get 817 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 3: my deal, to get my bread, that they act the 818 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 3: same way and I have I have the locker room support, 819 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 3: and they not say, well, I don't know if you 820 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 3: deserve it or not. For the most part, you know, 821 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 3: I've been in the locker rooms that dealt with contracts. 822 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 3: Stuff like that ain't none of my business. Ain't none 823 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,759 Speaker 3: of my business. It don't stop from the way I work. 824 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,800 Speaker 4: What about the guys though, because it's this could become 825 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 4: where you're gonna have the rich and you're gonna have 826 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 4: the poor and that middle class player. Who's who's that? 827 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:42,279 Speaker 6: I know? 828 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 4: But exactly? But do those guys, you know, the rookie 829 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 4: class or that what would be the two thousand and 830 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,399 Speaker 4: one rookie class whatever coming up next year, those mid 831 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 4: guys or maybe they're solid, but they're not great. Are 832 00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,279 Speaker 4: they going to be like, well, you know, they're gonna 833 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 4: pay this guy so much money, then they're not gonna 834 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:02,879 Speaker 4: be able to afford me. They're gonna go with somebody younger. 835 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:08,799 Speaker 6: Is that of flavor in your head? 836 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 3: You're thinking about my time is coming up? Like for example, 837 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 3: right right this year, you got guys like uh like 838 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 3: uh ohso diggi zua Right, it's a contract here for Osa. 839 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,400 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. So Osa is looking around 840 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:24,320 Speaker 3: and he's saying, okay, uh, you know, I got the 841 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 3: I got the lion behind me. He about to get 842 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 3: the lion's share of the bread coming up for me. 843 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,879 Speaker 3: I gotta play myself into the equation. Now I can't. 844 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 3: I can't play myself out the money. I gotta play 845 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 3: myself to the money. And then when they doing their 846 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,839 Speaker 3: whole little deal. Hope they they do it like they 847 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 3: did UH with with the uh What's no Dame player? 848 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,759 Speaker 3: Jaylen Smith, you got some money over here, and I 849 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 3: go and snatch it up. But you want to play 850 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,719 Speaker 3: yourself into the money conversation and not play yourself out 851 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,600 Speaker 3: of the money conversations, because if you're in the conference 852 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 3: with money here, like they said, there's thirty one other 853 00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 3: flavors that I am saying, you would be a good 854 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 3: at you. It would be a good asset for us 855 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 3: as well. And you can get the money. But if 856 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:07,239 Speaker 3: you play poorly and you suck, you've you've now kind 857 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,600 Speaker 3: of pushed yourself towards them out of the money conversation. 858 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,239 Speaker 3: But for the most part, gods are saying, I want 859 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 3: to be in the you know what. It's a good 860 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 3: position to be in to be able to say I'm 861 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 3: holding out and people and it matters that people like 862 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 3: if I get a chance to hold out, and it matters, 863 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:25,919 Speaker 3: and they're like by. 864 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,800 Speaker 6: And you know what, you know what. We are critical 865 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,840 Speaker 6: of the Cowboys, but Fellas and Jesse and Kurt, we 866 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,279 Speaker 6: have seen this get released from the Cowboys, especially if 867 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 6: you're a decent player. I've never seen one of us 868 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 6: stay on the wave, one of our guys, stay on 869 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 6: the wave wid long. It seemed like if you're a 870 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,439 Speaker 6: twelve win team, is something good good, it is something 871 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 6: good about you. So uh and ivolso and I have 872 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,840 Speaker 6: felt to come up. We know one dude to snatch 873 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,359 Speaker 6: him so quick in Washington, right within your yeah, right 874 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:00,440 Speaker 6: within your so. 875 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:02,919 Speaker 3: Yeah. 876 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 6: I'm suggestion when you say pray yourself into the money, 877 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 6: play yourself into the money, bro. 878 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,280 Speaker 3: And that's another thing that you know, all young players 879 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:13,759 Speaker 3: should realize. And when I gonna try to speak to 880 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,879 Speaker 3: the rookies, I always tell him, make sure you're good 881 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 3: to these assistants, because an assistant this year can be 882 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:26,560 Speaker 3: a coordinator next year. A coordinator this year could be 883 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 3: a head coach next year. You know what I'm saying, 884 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 3: Right Like Al Harris went from just to being the 885 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 3: dB coach to assistant head coach. Now he got a 886 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,480 Speaker 3: little say now, yeah, he got a little say. 887 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 6: Now his his next guess what defensive interrubew recquick like 888 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,279 Speaker 6: and I know this ain't got nothing to do with that, 889 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,800 Speaker 6: and he talking noise to the quarterbacks and whide receiver. 890 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 6: I mean, but go ahead on. I just want the 891 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,279 Speaker 6: head coach assist a head coach, like if y'all gonna 892 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,239 Speaker 6: practice today, is y'all gonna show up? I mean you 893 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:58,399 Speaker 6: selling them out and so nothing to do with nothing. 894 00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, but but that goes back to the you know 895 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 3: situation when it comes to contract. These other coaches, they 896 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,759 Speaker 3: may not be on this roster next year, you know. 897 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:10,280 Speaker 3: Help Mike Zimmer he's on a one year deal. McCarty's 898 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 3: on the one year deal. So when they go other places, 899 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 3: they're gonna start trying to fill their rosters with guys 900 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,920 Speaker 3: that they are familiar with. So if you weren't a 901 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,880 Speaker 3: hard worker, or you weren't a good worker, or you 902 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 3: were a guy who showed up and all that kind 903 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 3: of stuff, and you that coach is gonna say, yeah, 904 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:25,960 Speaker 3: come on, we got some money for you over here. 905 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 3: You were one of my guys. You know, you in 906 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:29,880 Speaker 3: my system, you know my style, you know what I 907 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,440 Speaker 3: want to do. So that could work both ways for 908 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,400 Speaker 3: all parties involved. But for the most part, for the 909 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,840 Speaker 3: other guys, we don't care. We don't care like I 910 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 3: promise you, I promise you. Uh Jaylor Tobert Jaylor, Brooks, 911 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 3: Billy Billy Billy Johnson, all other receivers. They not massy. 912 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 3: He's not like that. They'll give you the yeah that 913 00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,759 Speaker 3: will you know what, we miss them. They don't. 914 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 4: They don't are getting reps. 915 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,439 Speaker 3: They're not missing it. In fact, they're saying, brother, stay 916 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 3: away as long as you possibly want to because those guys, right, 917 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,960 Speaker 3: those guys are trying to get to the money, and 918 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 3: they're saying the more you stay away, the more they 919 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,759 Speaker 3: get a chance to look at me. Right, because every 920 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:19,680 Speaker 3: period and we're gonna get out of here. But let's 921 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,359 Speaker 3: just break this quick down. Every period in training camp, 922 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 3: so you have periods. When you hit that horn, you 923 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,560 Speaker 3: go to the next period. So sometimes the piers may 924 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:32,480 Speaker 3: consist of inside runs seven on seven, nine on seven, 925 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,760 Speaker 3: two minute drills, you know, eleven on eleven. 926 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 4: You have all these. 927 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 6: Blocks right in each one of these blocks day, right, So. 928 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 3: Each one of these blocks between you know, nine, ten 929 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:49,759 Speaker 3: to eleven blocks will have fourteen to twenty plays. A 930 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 3: bulk of it goes to the first team. Feel how 931 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,680 Speaker 3: you feel rotation in there. Then you'll get maybe you know, 932 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 3: three four players to the second team. Then maybe at 933 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 3: the end, if they want to repeat something from the 934 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 3: beginning with the first team, the third stringers might get 935 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:08,239 Speaker 3: in there. Maybe right, maybe, So each one of these 936 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:13,919 Speaker 3: piers have a block. If CD's in, CD's here, he's 937 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 3: taking all the number one blocks all every time Dak 938 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,960 Speaker 3: comes out the huddle, CD's coming out the huddle. You 939 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,920 Speaker 3: see what I'm saying. That's the less that they get 940 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,440 Speaker 3: the chance to see me. CD's not here. We're differing 941 00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,520 Speaker 3: up this block now, so every block, now I'm in 942 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,200 Speaker 3: the action. Dak's seeing me familiar with me. Coaches are 943 00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,880 Speaker 3: seeing me get familiar with me. Now they're starting to say, Okay, 944 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,120 Speaker 3: this guy is coming. So they'll say out in the media, 945 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,239 Speaker 3: we miss him, can't wait till he comes back. No, 946 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:46,279 Speaker 3: they don't. They're like, brother, stay away because you're gonna 947 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,280 Speaker 3: get your thirty whatever million. But I need these reps 948 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,480 Speaker 3: right now because I'm trying to get to that bag, 949 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 3: So stay away. So guys are trust me, those receivers. 950 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,520 Speaker 3: They begging for CD to come back right now. Now 951 00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 3: when the season comes and it's kind of solidified where 952 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,480 Speaker 3: you're gonna be, Yeah, they like, all right, we need 953 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,960 Speaker 3: we need him to win. We don't need him for 954 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:04,560 Speaker 3: training camp. 955 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:08,920 Speaker 4: We take some coverage, will yeah the season all right? 956 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,319 Speaker 3: Man, we're getting up out of here. Uh, Nate, thank 957 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,400 Speaker 3: you for dropping in with us. Man, be safe throughout 958 00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:13,840 Speaker 3: the weekend. 959 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,759 Speaker 6: Good stuff today, Kurt Jazz. 960 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, we appreciate you. Shannon is on the road. Hope 961 00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:25,520 Speaker 3: we got safely to Jazz in the back. Appreciate you, Jazz. Oh, 962 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,759 Speaker 3: always holding us down. Back there, always holding us down. 963 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:30,560 Speaker 3: Got the video of for us we watching a little 964 00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,359 Speaker 3: bit of practice. Y'all can't see it, but we can 965 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:37,040 Speaker 3: see it. To Josh, to everybody else that's involved in 966 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,000 Speaker 3: this statement, most important to you, the fans, We appreciate 967 00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,120 Speaker 3: you being here with us each and every day and 968 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:46,319 Speaker 3: every week. Yeah, run over people, uh for me. Salt 969 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:52,800 Speaker 3: Pepper Poppy, you guys have a great weekend. Salt Pepper 970 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,120 Speaker 3: Poppy Man all right, man, just hay with the boys 971 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:55,799 Speaker 3: we are. 972 00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,560 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com, 973 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,120 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club, Cowboy