Speaker 1: This week Jones and and you know you played Donald
Speaker 1: and Man, you've been in the league a long time.
Speaker 1: You've seen Reggie White and Bruce Smith and all these
Speaker 1: great players. Where is this guy in the in the
Speaker 1: great in the great so the great at the interior spot?
Speaker 2: Is this guy at the.
Speaker 1: Top of the list?
Speaker 3: Yep, he's not not top. He's in. He's in that group.
Speaker 3: He's in. He's a guy you have to count for
Speaker 3: in every play some way, shape or for him if
Speaker 3: you can. You gotta do the best job you can to.
Speaker 3: You know, they have ways to isolate him one on one.
Speaker 3: They put him in all different positions. Uh, Their defensive
Speaker 3: corner is Steve Spegnula does a great job of putting
Speaker 3: these guys in different places. This defense has evolved so much,
Speaker 3: and Chris Jones is such an integral piece of it.
Speaker 3: And I think he's playing his best football. This is
Speaker 3: probably the best I've seen him play a short sample size.
Speaker 3: I thought he had a great year last year, but
Speaker 3: I think he is starting off to having, you know,
Speaker 3: an MVP kind of season. He's really playing well, run game,
Speaker 3: pass game. Everything he does, there's a there's a thought
Speaker 3: behind everything he does, really, really a challenging part player
Speaker 3: to play. It's you know, everybody has different things. This
Speaker 3: guy's a monster. He's a big, big guy, and then
Speaker 3: at the same time, he's got athleticism, he can move,
Speaker 3: he's got quickness, he's got all the things that it
Speaker 3: takes to be a dominant defensive lineman, which obviously he is.
Speaker 3: So we we have our handsful. We have our handsful
Speaker 3: every week. Believe me, we have our handsful every week.
Speaker 3: This one I just keep waking up with ninety five
Speaker 3: ninety five and that's what my every day is like that.
Speaker 3: So I'm hoping to get over that dream this weekend.
Speaker 2: To kind of follow up on that with Chris Jones.
Speaker 1: Obviously, Hoodi has played pretty well throughout this season, but
Speaker 1: how do you think he will kind of respond to
Speaker 1: this challenge.
Speaker 3: Of having to go up against We checked with me
Speaker 3: after the game on Sondayell. Let's know, I think he's
Speaker 3: going to definitely have his hands full Chris is. I mean, uh,
Speaker 3: Pooni's had done an excellent job for us, you know,
Speaker 3: but he's got every week it's a different challenge, and
Speaker 3: every week when the new guys show up, he's got
Speaker 3: something else. He's got to work on and uh, and
Speaker 3: now it's another guy and this and and the better
Speaker 3: players now have more of a book on him. You know,
Speaker 3: they've seen four or five six games on Dom and
Speaker 3: all of a sudden some things have shown up. So
Speaker 3: we'll Chris use that. How many times they put him
Speaker 3: over there to want to get the one on ones
Speaker 3: with them? I know every great rusher tries to excuse me.
Speaker 3: They find a place to put their guy that they
Speaker 3: think the best matchup is we can best exploit. I mean,
Speaker 3: you don't want not that Chris Jones and Trent not.
Speaker 3: It's a great matchup. It's fun to watch, and Chris
Speaker 3: Jones will have a chance to beat Trent. But in
Speaker 3: the same sense, if you could put him somewhere else,
Speaker 3: you might want to put him there. And how it's
Speaker 3: strategically they play them in their defense, you know, to
Speaker 3: say have confidence in Dom. I want to see more
Speaker 3: how Dom reacts as the game goes on, and then
Speaker 3: next week it follows up because I to say that
Speaker 3: he's gonna go in there and dominate. You know, he's
Speaker 3: gonna have his hands full.
Speaker 2: I know he will to the super Bowl. And obviously
Speaker 2: there were a few plays that there were key protection breakdowns.
Speaker 2: And obviously, aside from Jones, it's a physical front, especially
Speaker 2: in the middle. How much do you go back to
Speaker 2: those plays in that film preparing for this week or
Speaker 2: that separate?
Speaker 3: I know, yeah, we prepare. We use every game. Start
Speaker 3: off with the super Bowl and then the games from
Speaker 3: the season. Was my starting point because we kind of
Speaker 3: prepped for that game last year with all the games
Speaker 3: privus previous, so I had all the cutups from that done.
Speaker 3: I took the game, took the Super Bowl, were from there,
Speaker 3: and so obviously everything we did in that game was
Speaker 3: comes under you know, scrutiny and research. We hadn't played
Speaker 3: them since twenty two, so we played them. We played them,
Speaker 3: and then I go back to nineteen and watch that
Speaker 3: Super Bowl as well. They look at anything I can
Speaker 3: see if teams summled to us where they attack us,
Speaker 3: and we made we made mistakes, we misstakes. I tell
Speaker 3: the guys in the sideline, and this is not this
Speaker 3: is my fault. I didn't prep them well. I really
Speaker 3: didn't prep them well enough. I could have done a
Speaker 3: better job, especially the two protections that we messed up
Speaker 3: with both banks early in the game and then with
Speaker 3: the Spence later in the game. That was really we
Speaker 3: hadn't prepped that protection for as much as they gave
Speaker 3: us with that, and it kind of come that way.
Speaker 3: It had been a protection we hadded a few years
Speaker 3: ago and I hadn't quite been completely vetted through and
Speaker 3: we've cleaned it up, but it's still a challenge with
Speaker 3: what we do with it. It always has been this
Speaker 3: style of protection. So that being said, uh, and then
Speaker 3: so then and then we didn't We chose a time
Speaker 3: to not play our best game up front. The Chiefs
Speaker 3: did a great job. All credit to them. They won
Speaker 3: the game. There's no looking back. As Trent said earlier,
Speaker 3: that ship sailed. You know, there's a whole new season,
Speaker 3: whole new game, whole new team. It always is a
Speaker 3: new year. But at the same sense, you know, we
Speaker 3: didn't play our best games. So I hope we can
Speaker 3: put our best foot forward this. We can play a
Speaker 3: little bit better game up front and do a good job.
Speaker 3: They're great front, great defense, well coordinated. They present a
Speaker 3: lot of issues and problems which they presented us, and
Speaker 3: we didn't pass the test as well as we could have.
Speaker 3: I'm hoping the guys are a little more prepared, like
Speaker 3: to kind.
Speaker 4: Of dial up the blitze even more like in the
Speaker 4: fourth quarter relative to the other three quarters. Kind of
Speaker 4: challenges that, and just in terms of kind of keeping ship,
Speaker 4: making sure you guys are staying sharp, you know at
Speaker 4: the end of the game with fatigue or whatever it
Speaker 4: might be setting in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's always you know, I think every protection we've
Speaker 3: talked about it. We know the strengths and weaknesses. Like
Speaker 3: I said, that protection, we knew the strengths and weaknesses,
Speaker 3: but it hadn't been played out as much. And so
Speaker 3: everything you know, so it has been played out. Now
Speaker 3: there's other things. That's my job is to always think ahead. Okay,
Speaker 3: we're going to call this in the reds and we're
Speaker 3: gonna called this on third down. We had one last week.
Speaker 3: We got a pressure on our quarterback. There's a third
Speaker 3: down call that I blame myself. I hadn't emphasized it
Speaker 3: enough that Colton could have helped Jake on one. It's
Speaker 3: a third and two pass where the three technique out
Speaker 3: up the field and Colton could have helped, and we
Speaker 3: talked about it had never come up, and I've talked
Speaker 3: about it for ever since I've been the line coach
Speaker 3: here that hey, when we get this play in this
Speaker 3: call and it happens to be a wider da da
Speaker 3: da da da, this is what you need to do.
Speaker 3: And I could have emphasized a little bit more. And
Speaker 3: so we those things that have to be because that's
Speaker 3: it's those critical times. It's like, you know, I used
Speaker 3: to joke all the time. We used to have these
Speaker 3: discussions as coaches. We'd talk and we'd say, yeah, well,
Speaker 3: but gosh, it might just happen once. I'm like, great, okay,
Speaker 3: you guys all go home and go to bed. What
Speaker 3: if that wants is the third and three in the
Speaker 3: fourth quarter of the Super Bowl in overtime the Super Bowl,
Speaker 3: it happens at one time, We're like, ah, crap, they
Speaker 3: got us. Wait a minute. You know, you don't know
Speaker 3: when that one time is going to be, so you
Speaker 3: have to fully you have to make sure you go
Speaker 3: through it all now. Same sense, you can't practice twelve
Speaker 3: hours a day and you don't get the reps at
Speaker 3: everything every week. You just can't do it. So you know,
Speaker 3: that's why you hope over time, guys have experience, they learn,
Speaker 3: they listen, they take good notes, and when it comes
Speaker 3: up in the game, Bam, it's there, and you know
Speaker 3: that one last week and others in the past. I
Speaker 3: lay myself first and foremost. I will to say I
Speaker 3: could have emphasized it more in the same sense your
Speaker 3: professional football player. I say it once, should you get
Speaker 3: it right? I don't know. That's the tradeoff. As a coach,
Speaker 3: I gotta make sure they get it. You know, just
Speaker 3: because they're a pro football player get paid, there's still
Speaker 3: a lot going through that brain and they have the
Speaker 3: physical challenge of those brought up pro. I gotta block
Speaker 3: Chris Jones. Okay, coach had all these nice coaching points
Speaker 3: in a nice air condition room and watching tape, I
Speaker 3: can take all the notes and I can talk about it.
Speaker 3: We have a walk through, and you know, Ben Bartch
Speaker 3: is playing Chris Jones. Great. I got no problems today.
Speaker 3: But then all of a sudden it's live bullets and
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, gem any Christmas. I gotta block
Speaker 3: this guy and remember all these coaching points, and it's
Speaker 3: going one hundred miles an hour, and grant, that's when
Speaker 3: they get paid to do. But it's not easy. That's
Speaker 3: why it's my job to alleviate as many of those
Speaker 3: things as I can to make sure they're able to succeed.
Speaker 4: The actually passes difficult to execute against defenses that are
Speaker 4: putting six defenders on the line.
Speaker 3: Scrig Well. I put it this way. A lot of
Speaker 3: play action passes you're able to help you you're selling
Speaker 3: a run. Were able to actually help each other, right,
Speaker 3: so you can come off the ball like a run,
Speaker 3: and there's people to help and protect you when all
Speaker 3: of a sudden you have five or six man blocks.
Speaker 3: How aggressive can you really be on when all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, if I go after a guy like a run,
Speaker 3: he just jumps inside or jumps outside. I have to
Speaker 3: temper what I do a little bit more so while
Speaker 3: the ball action may still show how aggressive can I
Speaker 3: really be? We had one a couple of weeks ago
Speaker 3: we called one that was a play that we against
Speaker 3: two weeks ago Arizona. It might have been last week too,
Speaker 3: I remember of the week. It was second eighteen, and
Speaker 3: we called a play sort of a play action pass
Speaker 3: kind of play. And I'm always like, hey, at your
Speaker 3: own risk, Brope, because it's like second eighteen. I'm not
Speaker 3: sure they're buying the run. It's like the three technique
Speaker 3: last week that beat Jake up the field that Colton
Speaker 3: probably could have helped them on. Like I say, my fault,
Speaker 3: not Colton's, is that they're probably not playing a run
Speaker 3: on thirty two to three. Even though we've run the run,
Speaker 3: they're going to honor it as much on thirty two
Speaker 3: to three. Same thing with the play action. So situationally
Speaker 3: five or six on the line of scrimmage, you're not
Speaker 3: having helps where so many of our playction passes there's
Speaker 3: help inside so you can come off the ball a
Speaker 3: little bit harder, and then we don't have to help
Speaker 3: you come off the ball a little less. So all
Speaker 3: a sudden, you take five or six guys not able
Speaker 3: to come off the ball as hard. It's harder to
Speaker 3: sell the runes. That makes sense, Okay, you.
Speaker 1: Guys ran it really well against eight man frontch this week.
Speaker 1: I thought that play where Girenda had the seventy six
Speaker 1: yard run, Pooney had two guys out on that play.
Speaker 1: You were really excited about Grendo and we saw it
Speaker 1: this week.
Speaker 3: How is it? What's the key to run blocking.
Speaker 1: For a guy like that, there's a little raw but
Speaker 1: a great speed.
Speaker 3: Well, that's it's it's like it was when we had
Speaker 3: you know, thirty one here before I talked about Maraheem
Speaker 3: and obviously he's not that's fast. We've talked about this
Speaker 3: the guy. If you give the guy the space, if
Speaker 3: you give a guy the crease, he's going to hit
Speaker 3: it and he has a chance to really, you know,
Speaker 3: to make things happen. The challenge is the same challenge.
Speaker 3: It still trying to create the same amount of space
Speaker 3: for JP, for Christian, for everything else. What's excited about
Speaker 3: thirty one is keep seeing it. He said, I remember
Speaker 3: I told you. I think I told you when we
Speaker 3: played the Rams and Banks missed the play that you'd
Speaker 3: have loved loved to see it come out, because I
Speaker 3: think guys that could have split the safeties and gone
Speaker 3: a long way, but Banks missed the blocks. We didn't
Speaker 3: get see it. This was one where he happened to
Speaker 3: create a nice scene for the kid and the safety
Speaker 3: took a bad angle, which sometimes they take bad angles.
Speaker 3: They're faster. That's the exciting thing. When we used to
Speaker 3: call McDaniel mke McDaniel had had a term for Raheem.
Speaker 3: He said he's the angle assassin, meaning that you think
Speaker 3: there's an angle, the proper angle for most safeties to
Speaker 3: take out a run or is this, But with Raheem
Speaker 3: he was the assassin. He would he would beat those
Speaker 3: angles because you couldn't. You couldn't take the same angle
Speaker 3: with raheemcus he was so fast. Guys with a little
Speaker 3: more speed it changes those angles. So those guys are
Speaker 3: used to fitting to run a certain way and it's
Speaker 3: just all of a sudden, you can't that great story,
Speaker 3: John Lynch right, he tells the story. I might have
Speaker 3: told it before. Randy Moss is one of his first games,
Speaker 3: John Tampa two. They're supposed to let's say're supposed to
Speaker 3: line at twelve yards deep. I don't know what their
Speaker 3: their their depth was as a safety, but playing Randy,
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, John looked up in the third
Speaker 3: and fourth quarter and Herm Edwards looking at him and say, hey, bro,
Speaker 3: you're you're twenty yards deep here? Why youre twenty years
Speaker 3: sep Well, because Randy, you'd stay at twelve, and all
Speaker 3: of a sudden you have to play the deep half
Speaker 3: on Randy, He's passed you. So all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: that changed the whole dynamic of the of how he played,
Speaker 3: and he found himself at twenty, you know, deeper than
Speaker 3: he should be. John tells a story better than me.
Speaker 3: But the same thing with this, So that that's the
Speaker 3: that's the excitement of playing a guy with a guy
Speaker 3: like that, because boy, when you can get through there,
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, it might be just a little
Speaker 3: bit different than they're used to. And that's that change
Speaker 3: of pace back you talk about. I'm saying slide. I
Speaker 3: saw a I saw a change in his gait. I
Speaker 3: thought he did. Now he say he turned the sideline.
Speaker 3: Now I didn't say slide. I said score. My hand's
Speaker 3: going like this. Score score score, score score. Okay, I
Speaker 3: don't slides, right. You can argue that with our analytics apartment.
Speaker 3: But I saw the kid's gate change. Now, maybe the
Speaker 3: you know, the refrigerator jumped on his back and slowed down.
Speaker 3: After seventy five yards or so, I looked like he
Speaker 3: was trying to slide down. Now he says he was
Speaker 3: to I'm believing him to ask you, what is God's play? Okay, well,
Speaker 3: you know he says it's power. Marty Schottenheimer, uh and
Speaker 3: his football life story says it's uh, it was, it's
Speaker 3: God's play is his power now. I like outside Zone.
Speaker 3: I was a power guy my whole career until I
Speaker 3: came to work for Mike and Kyle Shanahan and Washington.
Speaker 3: We ran a ton of power and with Mike hall
Speaker 3: Stott and worked one and guys like that in Tampa,
Speaker 3: and uh, the power powers a great play. I love power.
Speaker 3: We still run some power in our offense. He calls
Speaker 3: at God's play power encounter. Kind of the same thing.
Speaker 3: But uh, but yeah, that's what he calls. Its coaching
Speaker 3: staff in the league's who's that.
Speaker 1: City staff is as a cut above? Is this the
Speaker 1: elite staff?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean Andy's been doing it for so long.
Speaker 3: Does a great job on offense. I don't say their
Speaker 3: offense very much. And I think Andy hacked their offensive line.
Speaker 3: Coach is outstanding. Steve spagnels I said, it's an outstanding
Speaker 3: defensive corn and one of the best. And it's just
Speaker 3: evolved through time. How much better I could liken him
Speaker 3: to like Kyle, you know, like what Kyle did when
Speaker 3: he was with the Texans and what we did with Washington,
Speaker 3: and we did every step of the way to where
Speaker 3: he is today with our offense. You see them on defense.
Speaker 3: It's the same way he's evolved. It's not just the
Speaker 3: same old defense. It's evolved and there's a lot of
Speaker 3: moving pieces to it. And I think Joe Cullen their
Speaker 3: defensive line coach, and I think all the d line coaches.
Speaker 3: I respect all the guys we go against, but Joe
Speaker 3: Collin is one of the best. I noticed. I noticed
Speaker 3: that when he was in Baltimore. I'm like, who is
Speaker 3: because it wasn't just the starters that played well. He
Speaker 3: had these second tier guys. They're like, Holy gow, this
Speaker 3: guy's a freaking stud man. He's doing everything you could
Speaker 3: and actually could go look at the second tier players
Speaker 3: that weren't as talented. Maybe that you saw the technique
Speaker 3: he was trying to coach because they did everything exactly right. Well,
Speaker 3: that's a coach man. He's get his guys to do
Speaker 3: everything right. I think Joe Collin his bags. Those are
Speaker 3: two guys that stand out to me on that side.
Speaker 3: And then they take the old line coach with Andy
Speaker 3: on the other side. They have an outstanding I'm not
Speaker 3: going to crown him, you know. And now I'm glad
Speaker 3: to know that was the most important question. The rest
Speaker 3: of them I will discard from here on out, but
Speaker 3: that one right there, definitely he's that's a very very
Speaker 3: good staff. Appreciate you guy,