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Speaker 1: Hello, gorgeous, It is La La Ken. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the Give Them La La Podcast with Jessica Walter.

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Speaker 2: Hi everyone, it's me surprise.

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Speaker 1: Is it jes So you told me that someone DMS

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Speaker 1: you over the weekend. What did they say?

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Speaker 2: Listen to you, guys, I get a lot of in

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Speaker 2: my opinion, funny, but in most people's opinions, they're mean dms,

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Speaker 2: and I just kind of look at them and give

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Speaker 2: a little and then move on with my day. But

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Speaker 2: this one girl said, Lala was just playing. She was

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Speaker 2: recording herself and I was talking in the background, and

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Speaker 2: she was playing the video back to her, and I

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Speaker 2: heard my voice but didn't know it was me, And

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Speaker 2: my first thought was, who is that fucking annoying girl?

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Speaker 2: Then I realized it was me, which made me laugh.

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Speaker 2: Because over the weekend, a girl with a dog as

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Speaker 2: her profile pick coorse DM to me and she said,

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Speaker 2: if I have to hear your voice one more time,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna rip my ears off, so.

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Speaker 1: Well troll with the dog as her profile picture. If

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Speaker 1: you continue listening to the podcast, you're gonna hear Jess's voice,

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Speaker 1: so you might as well start ripping your ears off now.

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Speaker 2: I'm so sorry though, because I feel your pain. I

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Speaker 2: didn't even know that was me, and I was like, God,

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Speaker 2: turn that.

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Speaker 1: Off, Fla las No. I love your voice, and can

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Speaker 1: I tell you when I listen to the podcast, I

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Speaker 1: say you know all the time, and I'm like, oh

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Speaker 1: my god, you're so annoying. I have to stop saying

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Speaker 1: after everything I say.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's so funny because I don't even realize that.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's so annoying. I've got to stop.

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Speaker 2: Really, yes, I don't even realize it. Wait, so happy

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Speaker 2: freaking because over the weekend you were at the pumpkin

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Speaker 2: Patch celebrating four yearboy buddy, Yeah, sobriety, very exciting. Tell

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Speaker 2: me about your weekend.

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Speaker 1: My weekend was a lit af we went to. So

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Speaker 1: I knew it's it's one day at a time, so

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Speaker 1: I don't on anyone who's in the program to be

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Speaker 1: triggered by what I'm gonna say. I knew that I

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Speaker 1: was gonna make it to four years because I just

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Speaker 1: knew I like being sober. I enjoy my life. So

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Speaker 1: I was like, this weekend is going to be my

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Speaker 1: sobriety birthday weekend. It was officially four years on the

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Speaker 1: twenty second, which was Saturday. So Friday, we went to

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Speaker 1: the pumpkin patch with Ocean Cruise Jack's Bread Jared and

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Speaker 1: it was amazing and Ocean kept pointing she went in

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Speaker 1: her Monster Zinc costume.

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Speaker 2: He saw that.

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Speaker 1: She loves it. She brings it to me every day

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Speaker 1: and is like, I was dying wanting me to put

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Speaker 1: it on her. So I was like, you can wear

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Speaker 1: it to the pumpkin patch. But she's pointing at this

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Speaker 1: giant slide. Can I just tell y'all, my kid has

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Speaker 1: the cutest, most fun personality in the entire world.

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Speaker 2: The best she is.

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Speaker 3: I get a kick out of her hilarious. She's so

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Speaker 3: funniest person I know. She's the funniest person I know.

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Speaker 3: She's so freaking cool. So she did like the little

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Speaker 1: And then on Saturday, for my actual like happy Birthday,

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Speaker 1: happy four years of sobriety, we went to Universal with

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Speaker 1: Summer Moon Cruise parents. There was another cute little girl, Sienna,

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Speaker 1: them at Sheena's wedding. It is so cute. If I could,

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Speaker 1: I know that it's like a hard thing to do

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Speaker 1: where you know some people have a hard time getting

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Speaker 1: a perfect world you could say, like, let's plan to

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Speaker 1: have babies together.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, with your friends, do it.

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Speaker 1: It is. I'm telling you, there's no better feeling.

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Speaker 2: I died over the photo, which I don't know if

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Speaker 2: it's posted somewhere of not only Ocean and Cruise with

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Speaker 2: Kidding an ocean smile in one of them happiest girl

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Speaker 1: They're on Sheena's page and Summer's page, and they they

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Speaker 1: always tag give them Ocean, they do. I haven't posted

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Speaker 1: anything on Ocean's page like ever, Yeah, since she was

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Speaker 2: It's more on your page.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like I can barely post content on my

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where a bunch of it is. Yeah. They're

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Speaker 1: And I said, is that not the best feeling in

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Speaker 1: is the best feeling in the world. Right, I was like,

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Speaker 1: this is that's that's what heaven feels like. No, I'm

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Speaker 1: not kidding. It's so say, there are certain things that

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Speaker 1: or just enters the world, no matter how they you know, surrogacy,

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Speaker 1: whether it's your cookie or someone else's, or you adopt,

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter. When you know your child, you are in heaven.

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Speaker 1: When that child you know it's yours and it's come

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Speaker 1: into the world. That my love is what heaven feels like.

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Speaker 1: Oh my God. When they lay their head down and

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Speaker 2: Has Ocean said it?

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Speaker 1: She so, can I tell you what she did? She

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Speaker 1: can't say. You just know the tone, right, right, you

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Speaker 1: just learn the tone. So I said, can you say

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Speaker 2: She she's so cute because we're like your mom and

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Speaker 2: you and your mom taught her to say. She won't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, she's so. But today I did catch her

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Speaker 1: so she can. She's getting taller, so she can open

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Speaker 2: She loves a good dog food.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but how do I make it stop? Because I

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Speaker 1: give this girl her vitamins. She eats well, by the way,

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Speaker 1: the dog food. Because our dogs are older, we have

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Speaker 1: to give them like all organic. Like people can definitely

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Speaker 2: She's so sweet though, because she sees them eating and

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Speaker 1: My kid a fucking furry. I'm not kidding. She tries.

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Speaker 1: She'll put her food on the ground sometimes and eat

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Speaker 2: I did that literally constantly. I'm sure you did it too,

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Speaker 2: like we all. You never had a saucer of milk

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Speaker 1: I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: Really, she is having fun fliterate the duck now.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, you've gotta stop. It's expensive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it is.

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Speaker 1: He's so expensive.

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Speaker 2: Maybe cut up like a hot dog or like something

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Speaker 2: not a mom. I say things and parents are like, no,

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Speaker 2: you do not do that song.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. She's living her best life though when

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Speaker 1: Why are you hiding behind the curtain, girl, Yeah, because

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Speaker 2: That's funny. One more question I have about Universal. Did

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Speaker 1: She's old enough to ride the ride in like the

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Speaker 1: Minion's area. It goes in circles and you can go

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Speaker 1: up and down. And it was so funny because Summer

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Speaker 1: Moon was clinging to her mom terrified. Yeah, I couldn't

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Speaker 2: She's such a thrill seeker. Yeah, she's such a thrill seeker.

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Speaker 1: I know, so cute, she's so fine, so I can't

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Speaker 1: fucking deal with how fun my kid is. We're laying

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Speaker 2: O But she does not like HiT's her face? Yes,

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Speaker 2: She's so sweet and she's so curious. But this is

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Speaker 1: To and like, you're annoying me when I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you, if there was a reality show

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Speaker 2: of literally just you, Lisa and Ocean all day every

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Speaker 1: Everyone would jet it's the funniest shit ever.

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Speaker 1: There's my ego again. Someone was like, congrats on four years,

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Speaker 1: fuck knows. I've also decided, Jess, because my skin is

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Speaker 1: I've come to the realization that I have to stop

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Speaker 1: making out for a little bit because I'm attracted to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, from what you think, like beard oil or just

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Speaker 2: literally the scratchiness of you know.

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Speaker 1: What the fuck they do to those things. They probably

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know any men with beards right in

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Speaker 1: I would assume I mean shampoo. Well, yeah, it's hair. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Sorry God, I'm getting emotional. Just very just just badass, inspiring, strong,

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Speaker 1: the corner with what looks to be an ankle. Wanted

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Speaker 1: her is really air pods?

437
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Speaker 2: I fucking love Easther. Then I wish he lived here,

438
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Speaker 2: he would be he would be on this.

439
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 1: So we made a game plan. Okay, we made a

440
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Speaker 1: game plan. I think he's going to be out here

441
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Speaker 1: by definitely next year, I mean, or maybe this and

442
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 1: what are we in right now?

443
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Speaker 2: Permanently we're in October.

444
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Speaker 1: I think he'll be out here by like April or May.

445
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, like permanently.

446
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he came out. He was supposed to come for

447
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Speaker 1: three days from Bravocon. Yes, and instead, you know, we

448
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,119
Speaker 1: needed each other, all of us. Yeah, and we just

449
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 1: took like a mental family, uh dare And he was like,

450
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Speaker 1: we need to be together.

451
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Speaker 2: I love that he needs to be here. He needs

452
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Speaker 2: I thought living here because he didn't want to live here.

453
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Speaker 2: But if he wants to live here, he needs to

454
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Speaker 2: be here.

455
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Speaker 1: We're codependent. We're a codependent family. You can say it's

456
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Speaker 1: not healthy. I don't care.

457
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Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think it's codependent in the

458
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Speaker 2: way that a lot of people will think. You guys

459
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Speaker 2: are a close family. And I know it from being

460
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Speaker 2: in a close family. And there's nothing, in my opinion

461
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Speaker 2: better than that. And mind you, your family doesn't have

462
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Speaker 2: to be your blood. Your family can be anywhere ever.

463
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Speaker 2: But to me, a close family is like what it's

464
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Speaker 2: what has gotten me through and it's what I'm sure

465
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Speaker 2: gets you through.

466
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Speaker 1: And you know, yeah, and a lot of people were

467
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Speaker 1: also saying love the episode, but to be honest, I

468
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Speaker 1: can't stop thinking about what I would do to Easton

469
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Speaker 1: behind closed doors.

470
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Speaker 2: I'm like, Jop, does he take dms?

471
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he takes dms. There were a few I

472
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Speaker 1: punted over to him.

473
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Speaker 2: There were yeah, yeah.

474
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Speaker 1: You know. I was like, this bitch has been harassing

475
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Speaker 1: me about you for the past week.

476
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Speaker 2: So here, you know, if you you'd have a great

477
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Speaker 2: sister alow you guys.

478
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Speaker 1: Come on, would you though? Yes?

479
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Speaker 2: Are you kidding?

480
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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm very protective of Easton. No, today's going to

481
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Speaker 1: be lit. We have Lauren and Michael Bostic on the

482
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Speaker 1: podcast from the Skinny Confidential. His and hers so fun,

483
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,919
Speaker 1: so amazing. They are up next. We did a swap.

484
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 1: It was supposed to air last week, like I said,

485
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Speaker 1: but it's here today, so you're welcome. We'll be right

486
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: back with the Bosticks.

487
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I'm so excited.

488
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Speaker 5: Or so you can come back anytime you want to.

489
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Speaker 5: Our podcast that was That was a good one.

490
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Speaker 1: You can't tell me that because I take people up

491
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Speaker 1: on that When they're like, you should hit me up,

492
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Speaker 1: I'm like, but I am going to do that, so like,

493
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Speaker 1: can't I forget.

494
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Speaker 4: I'm not kidding open invite you. You're easy to talk

495
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Speaker 4: to me, open inte. Some people are like, oh my god,

496
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Speaker 4: you're fucking dud and we just got to squeeze it

497
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Speaker 4: out you. I'm like, come on, like enough of the

498
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Speaker 4: lemon water.

499
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Speaker 2: Well.

500
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Speaker 1: I always wonder how you guys, because I feel like

501
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Speaker 1: every episode, by the way, I have not subscribed or

502
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Speaker 1: what is that? What is the word? Like downloaded? Any podcast?

503
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: I have? You guys, Heather McDonald my own obviously and

504
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 1: not skinny, but not that. They're both very talented on

505
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Speaker 1: the mic.

506
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Speaker 4: But all of those people, they both and Amanda are

507
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Speaker 4: like again like they can just go.

508
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Speaker 1: There's just some people that know how are just quick. Yeah,

509
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: we're like I don't even care who the guest is,

510
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: Like I'm tuning in for like you guys or Heather,

511
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: like they could be doing it solo. Like you, you

512
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 1: keep up on the conversation even if you had a

513
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Speaker 1: dud of a game.

514
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Speaker 4: That's why when I was like, you should just be

515
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Speaker 4: able to like riff with whoever.

516
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Speaker 1: You don't totally just like we have this and we

517
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Speaker 1: have the say it again. You're the star. See this

518
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Speaker 1: is why I think so highly of myself because I

519
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 1: sit in a room with you guys, and you're like,

520
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Speaker 1: you're great. And then I go home to my mom

521
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Speaker 1: and she's like, you're so great that we could tell

522
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Speaker 1: me otherwise. Good, let's talk about the new babe. Yes,

523
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Speaker 1: how do you feel about this? I was telling Michael outside,

524
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Speaker 1: just be prepared. I don't have a boy, but I'm

525
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: sitting here telling you what you should be prepared for.

526
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: Tell me everything. But like ZoZ sits there and she's

527
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: like super chic, super cool. Right, we don't see her

528
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: mouthdowns on social media. Well sometimes we do has them, right,

529
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Speaker 1: but even those look chic because you're like in can

530
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Speaker 1: when she has them.

531
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Speaker 5: Her mouth down in santro Pei was iconic. I should

532
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Speaker 5: have filmed it.

533
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 4: Like somebody needs to get their fucking kid in controlling.

534
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 4: I turn around in his arcade, like, oh.

535
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Speaker 5: Shit, she's butt naked running through hotel to cats. But

536
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 5: you guys, before I had Ocean, I would see other

537
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 5: people's kids and I'm like, my kid will never be

538
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 5: that way, like the ones running through the restaurant. And

539
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 5: then you have a kid and you're like, fuck it,

540
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Speaker 5: run through the restaurant.

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Speaker 1: I don't care.

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Speaker 5: It's honestly, sometimes I'm just like, just let her do

543
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Speaker 5: what she's gonna do.

544
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Speaker 1: What's her sign?

545
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Speaker 5: She's Aquarius? Oh what's oceans? She's a Pisces. But Aquarius

546
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 5: are just like, oh, you know, I always want to

547
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Speaker 5: let my kids be who they are. I think what

548
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Speaker 5: my parents did for me so well is there was

549
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Speaker 5: never any judgment surrounding who I wanted to be. For instance, they.

550
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Speaker 1: Never like push the lawyer or the doctor, like you

551
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: have to go to school. They were always like, whatever

552
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Speaker 1: you do, just be the best at it, whatever that is.

553
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 1: So my parents were the same way. So I can't

554
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Speaker 1: wrap my head around parents who are like, you have

555
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Speaker 1: to go to college. I mean, what were your parents like,

556
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Speaker 1: Michael not like that.

557
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Speaker 4: I mean they wanted me to go to school. My

558
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 4: mom was My mom's half Japanese, so like she was

559
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 4: bringing that energy where she was like one. But then

560
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 4: I was like a terrible student. I was kicked out

561
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 4: of everywhere and getting fights and so like they were

562
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,959
Speaker 4: also kind of like, okay, shit, maybe he's not going Harvard.

563
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 5: Okay, Michael got more detentions than I've ever seen anyone get.

564
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 5: He was in detention from Monday through Friday, Saturday.

565
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Speaker 4: School.

566
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Speaker 1: Who's a he mooned the principal.

567
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Speaker 2: Oh he was.

568
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: Oh he was horrible.

569
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Speaker 5: Because you guys went to school together, right since we

570
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Speaker 5: were twelve, we.

571
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Speaker 4: Could you could relate to me on this. It became

572
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Speaker 4: a thing where like they were trying to break me

573
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Speaker 4: down by the detention. So I'm like, I'm just going

574
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 4: to get all the detentions.

575
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Speaker 1: And detention is not that bad.

576
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Speaker 4: No, So then they had to convert him to Saturday

577
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Speaker 4: school because the amount of times. Then they had to

578
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Speaker 4: convert him to suspensions. Then my Mom's like, enough, dude,

579
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Speaker 4: you know right.

580
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Speaker 5: I don't think that you have to be an all

581
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Speaker 5: star student to do what you want to do. I

582
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 5: feel like that's a myth we've been told.

583
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Speaker 1: Well, I also think and obviously if people are going

584
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Speaker 1: to like these incredible schools, I understand, like you got

585
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Speaker 1: to be smart. But for me, people are going to

586
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Speaker 1: hate me for this. But I'm saying it's you know

587
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: how to read and retain what you read? All right,

588
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 1: you're a good test taker, but can you survive in

589
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: the outside world? Also, do you have EQ? EQ? To

590
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: me is the most underrated thing.

591
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,360
Speaker 5: I don't know why no one talks about no one

592
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 5: talks about self awareness, knowing how to interact. Are your

593
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 5: arms closed off when you're talking to someone?

594
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: Are they open? Are you charismatic? Do you have strength?

595
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 1: Do you have warmth? Do you have a presence? Do

596
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Speaker 1: you know how to.

597
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 5: Speak in front of people? There's so many things they

598
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 5: don't teach you in school. It's like, I don't understand

599
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 5: this prescription for everyone that they need to go to college.

600
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Speaker 1: The real I wish I didn't go to college. Actually,

601
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that a lot of you went to college.

602
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: I'm so impressed. See, But then there are people that

603
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: tell me they went to college. Like my assistant Jess,

604
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Speaker 1: she told me she graduated from college. I was like,

605
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: holy shit, you're so smart. I really wish I didn't

606
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Speaker 1: go to college. I wish I put it towards like

607
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: the money, No, I wish I wish I took the

608
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Speaker 1: money and started my own business younger.

609
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Speaker 4: Well, college and school can be really dangerous for some

610
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 4: people because you go through a system that's all based

611
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Speaker 4: on following rules and then getting the results for following

612
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 4: certain rules, and then what happens is you get into

613
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Speaker 4: the real world and there is no rules, and you

614
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 4: come up against people that don't care about any of

615
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 4: the rules, and then you're like, wait a minute, I

616
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Speaker 4: follow the rules and I should be allowed to have

617
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 4: success now, and it's like, well, the rest of the

618
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 4: world doesn't really care. So, like, I think it could

619
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Speaker 4: be dangerous for some people that go through that whole

620
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 4: sys something in that if you being successful in school

621
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 4: correlation of success in the real world, because it doesn't

622
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Speaker 4: necessarily mean that.

623
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Speaker 1: No, And I always knew what I wanted to be

624
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Speaker 1: from the time I was twelve, and I wanted to

625
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Speaker 1: be on stage. I wanted to be in the arts.

626
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Speaker 1: But it wasn't like I ran in what you thought, yes,

627
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: which is cool though, and I didn't want to do

628
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: It wasn't like I wanted to be on Broadway, you know,

629
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: I just wanted to be on someone's TV. Well, it's

630
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: so interesting to me because, like I said on my podcast,

631
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Speaker 1: you read I read the book, and I think you

632
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: talk about being bullied, so you almost like took those

633
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: tactics and then you took the on stage tactics. And

634
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: then you.

635
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Speaker 5: Also I feel like, utilized your looks in the right

636
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 5: way in my opinion, well saying you're beautiful and you

637
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 5: put it all together and you get vander Pump Roules.

638
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: Right, which, by the way, when vander Pump first started,

639
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Speaker 1: you know, they started airing the like tune in the

640
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Speaker 1: new show. I was like, who the fuck is gonna

641
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: watch that? And then little did I know, someone upstairs

642
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: was like, bet you're gonna be on that one day

643
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: because your whole life with the bullying has prepped you

644
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Speaker 1: for reality television. I didn't realize that I was. I

645
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: used to watch reality TV as a kid, what like

646
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: the Real World and shit like that. I love the

647
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Speaker 1: Real worlds, yeah one, and I always thought like that

648
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: sounds that looks awesome, but like, I don't want to

649
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: do that. I don't want my real life to follow.

650
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Speaker 1: So good at it. That's so nice of you to

651
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Speaker 1: say you are. It's an art. It really is. Reality

652
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: TV is an art.

653
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Speaker 5: It's I also kind of imagine too, that you get

654
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 5: recognized wherever you go. And I don't think that this

655
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Speaker 5: has talked about enough with celebrities and reality stars. That

656
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Speaker 5: is people are gonna be.

657
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Speaker 1: Like, but it is.

658
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Speaker 5: It's it's an extra layer of stress in a way,

659
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 5: because I'm sure sometimes you just want to pump gas.

660
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Speaker 1: Well, for me, I look at it differently. Because I

661
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: know that I'm I know that I have talents because

662
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: I worked on them as a child because I wanted

663
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: to be in the art. So I know that I

664
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Speaker 1: have those. But as far as what I'm doing right now,

665
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: which people may consider it a talent or not, but

666
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: doing reality TV. Without these people watching the show, I

667
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: don't get to do what I do. So I never

668
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: get sick of people coming up to me and wanting

669
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: to talk because without them, I don't have what I have.

670
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Speaker 5: You know who else said that on a podcast? Kim Kardashian.

671
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Speaker 1: Did she really?

672
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Speaker 5: She said she never gets sick of people coming up

673
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Speaker 5: to her or taking photos because this is everything she

674
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 5: always wanted.

675
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Speaker 1: See, I'm not a huge I'm a huge fan of

676
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: like Kardashian, but I don't know anything that goes on

677
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: or what they say, Like I don't tune into the show,

678
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: or it wasn't even on the show, was on a

679
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,479
Speaker 1: random podcast. Yeah, okay, I love it. So I'm basically

680
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: like Kim Kardashian. You're basically like Kim Kardashian, So I

681
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: have to know that people because you have a huge

682
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Speaker 1: social media following.

683
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Speaker 5: I think that for me, it's not necessarily about the following.

684
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 5: I think what I've tried to do is really cultivate

685
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 5: the community, Like I will take time to respond to dms.

686
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 5: I will make sure I'm answering the questions. Like everything

687
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 5: I post has to add something to the person's life.

688
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 5: It has to make them laugh, It has to entertain them,

689
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 5: and has to educate them. It has to give them

690
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 5: a takeaway or else I feel like I'm wasting their

691
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 5: time totally. And I think a lot of influencers who

692
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 5: got famous, like in twenty ten, were just like look

693
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 5: at my nail polish and look at my dress. And

694
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 5: I've always been like, instead of like look at me,

695
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 5: I'm like, let's look at other people and like put

696
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 5: that together and make it a resource.

697
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Speaker 4: I think also the perspective is and like this is

698
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 4: not the wrong don't take the wrong Way's just a

699
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 4: different thing. It's like because we didn't have a platform

700
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 4: where there was like a syndication pushing us, and we

701
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 4: we didn't have that, so like the whole time is like, Okay,

702
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 4: if you're not creating valuable content that the audience or

703
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 4: listeners cares about, it's like they're the choice of so

704
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 4: many other creators online and we don't have anybody else

705
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 4: that's ever gonna step andy be like, oh, you guys

706
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 4: are going to go back on a platform next season,

707
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 4: don't worry, right, Right, we have to be able to

708
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,959
Speaker 4: go in and be like, Okay, if it's not valuable

709
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 4: and people aren't getting some kind of entertainment or they're

710
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Speaker 4: not getting inspired or not getting educated, like you can,

711
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 4: they can go choose millions of other people.

712
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Speaker 3: Right.

713
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Speaker 1: But that's why I'm so impressed by it, because there's

714
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: so many people who ask me, how did you build

715
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: this brand? And I almost have to take a step back,

716
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: and I almost feel guilty about it because I have

717
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: the luxury and this opportunity was brought to me by

718
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Speaker 1: being on a show that that kind of pushed me

719
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Speaker 1: to the top with Does that make sense?

720
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Speaker 4: Like not a lot of people do what you've done

721
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 4: with that platform, like you I can. We can the

722
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Speaker 4: real world. You can go through the host of a

723
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 4: million reality stars that have kind of just been washed

724
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 4: out because like they just rested their laurels on the

725
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 4: success of the show and then the show changes or

726
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 4: seasons change, or they get cut. That's like you never

727
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 4: hearin so like you've built something because you've been smart

728
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 4: enough and savary enough to say, Okay, like I have

729
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 4: an opportunity, I'm gonna take advantage of it in the

730
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 4: right way. Like I'm not, you know, not taking advantage

731
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Speaker 4: in the wrong way, but like you've been able to

732
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Speaker 4: leverage that success into other areas of success.

733
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Speaker 5: That's what I was gonna say. I would caveat that.

734
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Speaker 5: With that you have, you have educated, entertained, inspired. Further

735
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 5: from like when you're off the show, you're still making

736
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 5: sure you're providing value. You're making people laugh, like whatever

737
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 5: it is, you're giving them advice about being in a

738
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 5: shit relationship and what they should do. Like when you

739
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 5: can give people tangible things that they can apply to

740
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 5: their own life, that is where you can take to

741
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 5: the next level. And I feel like you're doing that

742
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 5: off the show, So you're good.

743
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like the show line, it doesn't mean it's the

744
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 4: end for you because you've like people now will go

745
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 4: with you wherever you go. But a lot of times

746
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 4: that's not the case for other people on l TV,

747
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 4: Like the show ends, and it's like you like, that's

748
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 4: it for them, right not to like shit on people

749
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 4: with that. It's like the majority of people that go

750
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Speaker 4: on these television shows, like the show ends, they get

751
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 4: kicked off. It's like they're dying.

752
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Speaker 1: Athony Frankl does a goddamn good job. She does the

753
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Speaker 1: way I I don't look up to very many people.

754
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: Bethany Frankel is one of my all times. I am

755
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: so impressed by her and just what she has done.

756
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: She came from nothing and then on top of you know,

757
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: creating her foundation of be strong. It's just she has

758
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: everything like she's got it figured out in my mind business.

759
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: I don't know her personally, but she seems like someone

760
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,439
Speaker 1: who's got it figured out. Like I want to take

761
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: what she's done. Like I said on your Guys' podcast,

762
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: if you don't have what I want, and we learned

763
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,919
Speaker 1: this in AA, then I most likely will not listen

764
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: to you. She has what I want, so I would

765
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Speaker 1: take all the advice. Same with you, guys, though I'm

766
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Speaker 1: looking like I even texted you the other night, which

767
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Speaker 1: I didn't respond to your other one. I'm the worst

768
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 1: text for ever. You're just as bad as you take.

769
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Speaker 1: I can't when you have a kid's no I know,

770
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 1: so you get it. That's why I didn't feel bad.

771
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 5: You could literally not text me for eight months to

772
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,439
Speaker 5: that text and I would be just fine.

773
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Speaker 1: Okay, that's how I am too. That's the kind of

774
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: friend I am asking you if you had a publicist,

775
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: because you're literally everywhere I don't. That's very nice. I

776
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 1: walk in airwon It's like, oh, a pink drink.

777
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Speaker 5: I mean, I feel like though, like you're on the

778
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 5: top TV show, but thank you.

779
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: But that's the thing you're not, and you're still doing

780
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: crazy shit. That's why I say, I've had my grind

781
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 1: for fourteen years, but look at what you've done, like

782
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: it really is inspiring. It's kind of like looking at

783
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: someone like Rod Stewart versus like artists today, where I'm

784
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: like Rod Stewart got to where he is with zero

785
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: social media. That's true.

786
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 5: You had to go out and like either buy his

787
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 5: little cassette Forever Young.

788
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 1: Don't even talk to me about Forever Young. Such a anthem. Okay,

789
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 1: you have to cue that song. It's such a good song.

790
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: It's so good. So you are someone I'm impressed by.

791
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: But because you didn't have anybody like pushing you to

792
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: the top, you did it all on your own. And

793
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Speaker 1: that's why I was like, who the fuck does her

794
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: PR because you're everywhere. Then I'm working with Doe and

795
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, by the way, this is skinny confidentials

796
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 1: that you'll be We need to give them la dough.

797
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: Make it happen, Like who is running shit with you guys?

798
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: Because you're killing it. We need to We need to

799
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 1: give them lalla dough. That would be good.

800
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 5: And like that green color that you have for your line,

801
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 5: it's like the perfect it's like a sea foam kind

802
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 5: of green.

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Speaker 4: The unlock, which I think like you're already onto it's

804
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 4: like once you realize that nobody's actually going to do

805
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 4: it for you, and that like there is no PR,

806
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 4: there's no press, there's no agent, there's no manager. Like

807
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 4: and I'm not saying that we haven't worked with great

808
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 4: people like we have over the years, but in large

809
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 4: part it's been like really understanding that if you want

810
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 4: to build something great, like you got to put in

811
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 4: the time, you got to from the effort, you've got

812
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 4: to fucking do it yourself. Like it's like there's not

813
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 4: it's nobody's gonna hand it to you and there's a competition.

814
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 5: I would also caveat that was saying that it's important

815
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 5: to have strategic people around you or or.

816
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: And I, by the way.

817
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 5: That could mean like reading Charlie Munger's book, like I'm

818
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 5: not saying like it, and I love how much you

819
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 5: love books.

820
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Speaker 1: I love them large.

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Speaker 4: The largest thing though, is like I think when you

822
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 4: think about any of the stuff, are people that have

823
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 4: had success in this new kind of landscape roll And

824
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 4: it's like, if you're putting out stuff that people find

825
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 4: valuable that's helping them in their life, whether it's inspiring

826
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 4: them like I said, of making them laugh or educating

827
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 4: them or like whatever, like they'll kind of support you

828
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 4: enough where like they kind of they're your publicists, like

829
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 4: they do it for you. Tell me like we don't

830
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 4: have a lot, like a lot of outside resources, but

831
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 4: like the audience is so supportive and they back whatever

832
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 4: she does.

833
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 1: I also think this is something I think that's in

834
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: AA just that I learned through my sister, is that

835
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: acknowledging people.

836
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 5: People want to be acknowledged. So if you have like

837
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 5: this huge following and you can't take ten to twenty

838
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 5: to thirty minutes of your day to acknowledge the people

839
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 5: that have supported you, you're right, that's a problem. No,

840
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 5: you're right, Like every once in a while, I'll like

841
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 5: put my audiences clear the teacher list on my stories,

842
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 5: or all put their brand on my stories, or like

843
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 5: all retweet something that you like. You have to support

844
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 5: the people that have supported you.

845
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

846
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 5: There becomes a problem when you get too many followers.

847
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 5: And we all know these influencers now that have ten

848
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 5: million followers. Right where there's a there's a wall, there's

849
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 5: a barrier between the influencer and in the follower, and

850
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 5: that's when it becomes celebrity, which becomes unattainable. What Bethany

851
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 5: Frankl has done so well and seamless is she's broken

852
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 5: the wall down. So you feel like when you're watching

853
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,439
Speaker 5: her TikTok that she is your friend giving you sound

854
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:30,439
Speaker 5: advice and she's you haven't watched her TikTok. She's doing

855
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 5: it perfectly. And you know who else is crushing it, Oh,

856
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 5: Spencer Pratt, Well, she's speaking to you.

857
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: Spencer Pratt has been killing the game.

858
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 5: Spencer Pratt is killing it because you feel like when

859
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 5: he is on his TikTok that he's talking to you.

860
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 5: And he's become so much more likable because you've got

861
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 5: to know the ins and outs and the whys.

862
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: Totally. Yeah, he's doing a very good job. Oh my gosh,

863
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: you're giving My mind is going insane right now. I

864
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: wish you could be in it. I feel like it's

865
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: so many going away, like the like the facade between

866
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: the you have to like get down and dirty with

867
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: the people who are supporting you. But I feel like

868
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: that is like the recipe to success these days is

869
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: when people come and buy you know, whether it's a

870
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: lip gloss or a palette. They're doing it because I'm

871
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: I'm not a makeup artist. I'm doing it. There's no

872
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: glamorous lighting. It's like me and my mirror, and it's

873
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: it's something that is approachable.

874
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 5: I also would layer with the fact that they've seen

875
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 5: what you've gone through and they want to support you,

876
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 5: which is that that would make me want to cry.

877
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 5: That's like amazing that they they're going to a checkout

878
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 5: you're You're right, you're not a makeup artist. I mean

879
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 5: your makeup, whatever you're wearing right now, it's like I

880
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,760
Speaker 5: don't even think you're wearing anything, but you're just naturally

881
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 5: pretty nice. So I think people one want to look

882
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 5: like you but they also want to support you and

883
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 5: everything you've gone through. And then that is like, oh

884
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 5: my god, that's a community.

885
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 1: That is a community. I mean, do you, Michael help

886
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: her with when when you came to him with the idea,

887
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: because so you guys are like best friends as well

888
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: as all loves and friends. I'm playing that in the car.

889
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: She comes to you and she's like, I want to

890
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: start this line so it doesn't Does he help you

891
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: with any of that? Yes? Do you help me so much?

892
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: Because you're a fucking genius? No? No, no, he's a.

893
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 4: Gene actually yes, no, no, keep going. What else am

894
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 4: I not?

895
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 1: He's a genius with a huge dick. No, Oh, that's

896
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: the best. All I want is to add that to

897
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: my list for the last You know, what's the best

898
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: thing about this man is his brain?

899
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 4: Well just I think smart. I think. I try to

900
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 4: look at things we were talking about this earlier. I

901
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 4: don't even have made in the I think about how

902
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 4: things connect, right, and I think like mushrooms all the time.

903
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 4: I look at more and I'm like, okay, you want

904
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 4: to build this online community. Okay, but then if you

905
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 4: once you do that, you have to create this content

906
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 4: and it has to be these kind of ways and

907
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 4: has to serve them in this way. But then once

908
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 4: you do that, like what is that? What does that

909
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 4: community really want for you? And it's like this product

910
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 4: line of course, like we helped fund it and I

911
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 4: can help put like operators place and all these things

912
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 4: that you take to operate a business, which honestly you

913
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 4: can read books about and figure out. Right, it's just

914
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 4: like practicing, but it's more important to think about like

915
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 4: how is that brand positioned within the entire ecosphere? And

916
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 4: is this something the community is going to resonate with?

917
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 4: And like when we talk about the product, I'm like,

918
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 4: does it make sense to come out X, Y or

919
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 4: Z product? And like what I what I try to

920
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 4: do because this is largely her brainchild and her things,

921
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 4: Like I come in with the edits and be like, okay,

922
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 4: does that make sense to the storyline? Does that make

923
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 4: sense to like like if you're gonna launch this, like

924
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 4: does it make sense to everything else you've been talking about?

925
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 4: Or like does this skew really mash up with everything else?

926
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: And I think some people like this Why he's trying

927
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: to say nicely is that I am like psycho creatives

928
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: and I'll have six hundred ideas and he funnels I

929
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: think people, right, But that's important to have that oh yeah,

930
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: oh yeah.

931
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 4: People fuck up in business because they have an idea

932
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 4: and it's a short term idea. They don't think all

933
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 4: the way to the end. And then what they do

934
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,720
Speaker 4: is like, when you start having any kind of success

935
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 4: in life, you're going to get all sorts of different opportunities,

936
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 4: and the hard thing is to be disciplined and not

937
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 4: just jump at every opportunity, because then you're like like

938
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 4: a squirrel just chasing a bunch of different nuts, right,

939
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 4: and it's like it all becomes disjointed. So it's an

940
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 4: easy trap to fall into when you're having early success

941
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 4: because everyone's throwing hey, do you want to promote this?

942
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 4: Do you want to partner with this? You want to

943
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 4: do this? You're like yes, yes, yes, and all of

944
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 4: a sudden, like your story doesn't make sense anymore, and

945
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 4: the audience is like what the fuck are you doing?

946
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 4: And so what I tried to do with anyone I

947
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 4: work with is like, hey, how does this all make

948
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 4: sense to the long term vision that you're building?

949
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: Okay, we're different sides of the brain completely, but That's

950
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: why it works because you because I'm like you where

951
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: I sit there and I'm like, let's do it all.

952
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: It doesn't make any fucking sense, but whatever, you know,

953
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: as long as my logos on it, it does.

954
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 5: You know you've done a good job. How you rolled

955
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 5: out your brands. They your brands do make sense.

956
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 4: Well, you can do it all. You just have to

957
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 4: map out how all all of that is coming together

958
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 4: and when right, Like sometimes you got to pass like

959
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 4: not this one, not now, this one, maybe later, but

960
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 4: it's all just got to map out. It's like we

961
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:52,919
Speaker 4: all know these people that like, all of a sudden

962
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 4: they do something like what the fuck is that? That

963
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 4: makes no sense?

964
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: Right?

965
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 3: Yeah?

966
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: No, I do know because I have this internal battle

967
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: daily of what makes sense what doesn't make sense, And

968
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: I don't have a person where I can be my filter.

969
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 5: You can text this anytime if this is my favorite

970
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 5: conversation with anyone who I like love looking at a

971
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 5: brand from a bird's eye view and being like, okay,

972
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 5: move this like a chessboard.

973
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 1: Totally.

974
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 4: Yes. If I have one talent, it's like and I'm

975
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 4: because I know I am, I'm decent on a mic

976
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 4: and I can hold a conversation. But I am not talent,

977
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 4: meaning like, Lauren is the talent, and I can recognize it,

978
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,439
Speaker 4: and you are a talent. And I think where I'm

979
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,959
Speaker 4: helpful sometimes is by recognizing that potential and saying, Okay,

980
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 4: now let's like really get what's in your brain, what

981
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 4: you really want to do, and like map it out

982
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 4: in an organized way.

983
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: Okay, no, I love that. I mean, obviously, look at

984
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: what you've built.

985
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's pretty someone said the other day, They're like

986
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 5: they're going to be talking about you in like in

987
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,479
Speaker 5: podcast like books in like twenty years because what he's

988
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 5: done with your media is so disruptive to the podcast space.

989
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 5: It's so different than what any other podcast network is doing.

990
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 1: He's building brand, I know.

991
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 4: Because I'm not interested in actually building anyone's podcast, right.

992
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 1: That's which is when you're interested in building their brands.

993
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 4: Right, interested in saying like, Okay, this is a good

994
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 4: cornerstone of the internet to control a lot of attention

995
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 4: and have a lot of engagement, but now, what do

996
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 4: you want to do with it?

997
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: And he also doesn't kick people off networks because they

998
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: said something on a mic, which seems like.

999
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 4: Well, because I don't care about just like this is

1000
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:28,959
Speaker 4: pretty mind blowing. I don't really care about just getting

1001
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 4: their dollars right because like, again, I'm building a brand.

1002
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 4: And like, to me, if you're garnishing attention or garnering

1003
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 4: attention and people are paying attention, like you have the

1004
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 4: ability to then do something great, right.

1005
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: He's not trying to control Like hell.

1006
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 4: You know, you know whatever advertisers doesn't like what this

1007
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 4: person says, they're pulling out. It's like, okay, fine, pull out.

1008
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 4: We're not focused on it, like you're part of it.

1009
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 4: You're part of the.

1010
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: Cash over starting the wind. Oh my gosh, my dad

1011
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 1: used to say that. No one has ever said that.

1012
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: I said it the other day and someone looked at

1013
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: me like I was insane, and they're like, what does

1014
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: that mean? I love that you just at that. You're

1015
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 1: like a cute. They're like a fart in the wind.

1016
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,959
Speaker 1: I have to know, and I literally hate when people

1017
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: ask me this question, but I'm going to ask you

1018
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: anyway now, with two kids, what is the balancing act?

1019
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 1: I hate when people ask me this, but I have

1020
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: to know, Like, do you feel mom guilt all the time?

1021
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: If I feel mom guilt being here, don't you like,

1022
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: do you like I feel mom guilt being away any second? No,

1023
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: I feel that, And even so I obviously am. I

1024
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: share my child and I can't imagine. By the way,

1025
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 1: that's no, a lot extremely difficult, and I have to

1026
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: plan out my days or weeks with people, and there

1027
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: are times where it's I can't do the whole Like, hey,

1028
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: do you want to hang out tonight? I got my kid.

1029
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter if she's going to be asleep, because I'm

1030
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 1: going to be there while she's sleeping, So I definitely

1031
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 1: know what you're feeling just by being here.

1032
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 5: You have to have friends that are not high maintenance,

1033
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 5: because if someone is high mat like my kids are

1034
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 5: my number one priority, I want to be with them.

1035
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 5: We were talking about this the other day. We want

1036
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 5: to travel with our kids, not a lot of people

1037
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 5: like some people don't, which is fine, that's great.

1038
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: Can I come as a third wheel with my kids?

1039
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: Come with ocean?

1040
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 4: We don't don't want to, Like I think, like the

1041
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 4: whole point of having kids is to be with them,

1042
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,439
Speaker 4: right And like, I get what. Everybody needs a break

1043
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 4: once in a while. I'm not saying they don't, but like

1044
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 4: there's you know, there's a lot of people out there

1045
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 4: that are like constantly trying to escape their children, and like,

1046
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 4: I it has to.

1047
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 5: Be for work for me, Yeah, it has Yeah, it's

1048
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 5: And by the way, I want to say this, I

1049
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 5: have help.

1050
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: Like I'm not trying to be like I do it all.

1051
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: I'm an octopu. But you're also but you're also a

1052
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: work I'm glad you're acknowledging that, because obviously having help

1053
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: is a luxury to help, but you also both work.

1054
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 1: You're not a stay at home moms three years old.

1055
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 5: I'm I'm glad that they see me work. It's I

1056
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 5: think it's an incredible thing for them to see both

1057
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 5: of us bringing an income.

1058
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, but at the same time, I still have more.

1059
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's the thing's a part of being

1060
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: a mother fuck though, because you're like it's like you

1061
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:02,439
Speaker 1: can't win.

1062
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 5: It's like that if you stay at home, then I'm

1063
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 5: sure there's all these different things with that. It's like,

1064
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 5: you really, that's what the hard thing for me about

1065
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 5: being a parent.

1066
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 4: It's not black and white, but when it comes down

1067
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 4: to the reason I feel absolutely zero guilt about help

1068
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 4: is like, we work hard to do this and I

1069
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 4: know that without doing this kind of thing and working

1070
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 4: the way we do, that I know personally I would

1071
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 4: not be a happy, fulfilled person.

1072
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 5: But I have asked you as a man, I said,

1073
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 5: do you feel this guilt that I feel?

1074
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: And you said, no, I don't. Is that because a

1075
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 1: man is supposed to be, like in a cookie cutter world,

1076
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: a provider?

1077
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 4: No, I don't think I feel the guilt, not because

1078
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 4: of any kind of male female thing. I feel like

1079
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 4: I've gotten okay in my brain that like I know

1080
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 4: what I was saying a second ago. If that if

1081
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 4: I wasn't able to work the way I do and

1082
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 4: do the things that I wouldn't be a fulfilled, happy

1083
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 4: person my own life, which would an effect negatively impact

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Speaker 4: my children because I wouldn't be happy, right, and I

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Speaker 4: want to be able to bring the happiest version of

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Speaker 4: myself to my children. So like part of that day

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Speaker 4: includes me, you know, working and being away and obviously

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Speaker 4: utilizing help. And then the other part is I think

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Speaker 4: it's a woman.

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Speaker 1: I know, but can I tell you I get what

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Speaker 1: both of you are saying. And I had this conversation

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Speaker 1: with Stossy. Whatever makes you feel happy and fulfilled is

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Speaker 1: exactly what you should do right because your kids feel

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Speaker 1: that correct. For me, I'm like you, Michael, I don't

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Speaker 1: think that I would feel fulfilled if I were a

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Speaker 1: stay at home mom. I like to work. I watched

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Speaker 1: my mom work. It's just in my nature where I

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Speaker 1: like to be out there and it just makes me

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Speaker 1: feel independent. It fuels a part of me that needs

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Speaker 1: to be fueled. Where a lot of my friends who

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Speaker 1: live in Utah stay at home moms and they're totally content,

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Speaker 1: and then they'll talk to me and be like, but

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Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like when I talk to you,

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Speaker 1: like you think that you're looking at me a certain way,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm not looking at you like anything.

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Speaker 1: If you are happy and content and fulfilled in your

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Speaker 1: life as a stay at home mom, that is exactly

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Speaker 1: where you should be. And by the way, I don't

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Speaker 1: think I could do it. By the way, what can

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Speaker 1: we just like say this? Everyone is different. I hate

1111
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: to be different. We don't all have to be the same.

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Speaker 1: There's people can't grasp her fative, like where did we

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Speaker 1: get day's plans for? We have to all love one thing?

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Speaker 1: They think if you say I couldn't be at stay

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Speaker 1: at home mom, that you're shitting on stay at home moms,

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Speaker 1: and that's not what it's about. It's about finding what

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Speaker 1: makes you personally happy. And it might be a mix.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you want to do both, like tonally.

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Speaker 4: If there's like one rule that Laura and I live by,

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Speaker 4: like we don't give other people parenting advice. We don't

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Speaker 4: tell them how to parent, and we we do share

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Speaker 4: kind of how we do, but we never say our

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Speaker 4: way is right for everybody else, because everybody's completely different.

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Speaker 4: And if you're staying home and you're working, that makes

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Speaker 4: you happy and you feel like a great parent.

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Speaker 1: Like I will say the best piece of advice that

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Speaker 1: I've ever got about parents.

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Speaker 4: If you're working and going out and then like that

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Speaker 4: makes you happy. Like I think it's so dicey to

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Speaker 4: just blanketly give people parenting.

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Speaker 1: The advice was good. I have to give this one advice.

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Speaker 5: Jamie O'Banion, who owns Beauty Bio, has four children. She

1133
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Speaker 5: is running a multimillion dollar company Badass, and she came

1134
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 5: on the podcast and I was like, like, four children,

1135
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Speaker 5: you gotta fuck your husband.

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Speaker 1: Like it's like like so much a lot.

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Speaker 5: It's like jack you off under the table. Why I

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Speaker 5: make keen wa and like on Instagram, like, what do

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00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,439
Speaker 5: you want me to do while I'm trying to learn

1140
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 5: from a podcast? Like it's like a lot.

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Speaker 4: Is that under the table thing an option?

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00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: Anyway? That's always an option. It's always an option. I

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Speaker 1: always rally. So I said, what do you like? What

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00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: do you do? What's the advice?

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Speaker 5: And she said, Lauren, when I lay my head down

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00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 5: on the pillow, I either think I was a great

1147
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 5: mom today or I think I was a great business woman.

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Speaker 1: She's like, I've never laid it down. Thought both Wow,

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Speaker 1: And that totally resonated for me because I'm like, Yeah,

1150
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Speaker 1: there's gonna be days of the week where I like,

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00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: you're You're not gonna lay your head down on the

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Speaker 1: pillow and it's too high of an expectation on yourself.

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Speaker 1: I love that I did too. It made me feel better.

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Speaker 1: Someone asked me on on tour, what advice can you

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Speaker 1: give me as someone who's about to give birth and

1156
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Speaker 1: be a new mom, And I was like, the advice

1157
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you is don't take any advice from anybody.

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Speaker 1: It's because you're going to figure it out on your

1159
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Speaker 1: own and what works for you and what works for

1160
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Speaker 1: you is going to be different from every other parent

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Speaker 1: that you know.

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Speaker 5: And by the way, and we learned this on our podcast,

1163
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 5: is You your life? It ebbs and flows and you

1164
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 5: can be thrown a curveball that no one can understand.

1165
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Speaker 5: Like you mentioned like it's hard to find a therapist.

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Speaker 5: How can you find a therapist who understands what you've

1167
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Speaker 5: gone through when you've gone through like I'm sure you're

1168
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 5: like talking to someone and they're like, this is a

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Speaker 5: unique experience.

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Speaker 1: It is, Yeah, totally, No, it's you just go I've

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Speaker 1: learned with life, you just roll with the fucking punches.

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Speaker 1: I never thought that like AA would come in handy

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Speaker 1: in my everyday life because when you when you're a newcomer,

1174
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: you just think like this is gonna help me not drink. No,

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Speaker 1: it helps you just deal with life one day at

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Speaker 1: a time. What's the best AA advice? I think the

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Speaker 1: best AA advice was when which I said this to

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Speaker 1: you listen to people who have what you want. Yeah,

1179
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: that's a good one. That one always stuck with me.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I need to read that book. Is

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Speaker 1: that weird to read that?

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Speaker 4: No?

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00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 1: I actually encourage people whether you want to get sober

1184
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: or you're just like a total normy to read it.

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Speaker 5: My sister told me one that I'm obsessed with, like

1186
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 5: what other people.

1187
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 1: Think of you as none of your business? Should I

1188
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: say that? Right? Say it again? What other people think

1189
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: of me is none of my business? Yes, they're Can

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Speaker 1: I tell you, because you're a big reader, you should

1191
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 1: read it.

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Speaker 5: I know I'm kind of like really interested in reading it.

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Speaker 5: I don't know how I haven't read that. You've got

1194
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Speaker 5: to read it. I encourage everyone to do that. Okay,

1195
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 5: if people are living under a rock, where can people

1196
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Speaker 5: find you?

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Speaker 1: Guys at Lauren Bostic and at the Skinny Confidential.

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Speaker 4: You love it. It's our schell, and then anything on dear media.

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Speaker 1: I'm obsessed. Thank you guys so much. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: having us. Of course,