1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: Welcome one and all to the Professional Homegirl Podcast. Before 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: we begin today's episode, we want to remind you that 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,399 Speaker 1: the views and opinions expressed on this podcast are those 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: of the host and guests and are intended for educational 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: and entertaining purposes. In this safe space, no question is 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: off limits because you never know how someone's storyline can 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: be your lifeline. The Professional Homegirl Podcast is here to 8 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 1: celebrate the diverse voices, stories and experiences of women of color, 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: providing a platform for authentic and empowering conversations. There will 10 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: be some key king, some tears, but most importantly a 11 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 1: reminder that tough times don't last, but professional homegirls do 12 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: enjoy the show. 13 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: Hey, professional Homegirls, Eshagurabine here and we are throwing it 14 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: back to a PhD rewind episode that is hands down 15 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 2: and my top five, y'all, And listen that says a 16 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 2: lot because we are approaching three hundred episodes and I 17 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 2: recorded this back in twenty nineteen, So listen when I 18 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: tell y'all, y'all are about to be cracking up because 19 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: my guess is shits and giggles. My guest gets really 20 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: about her experiences in the porn industry as a BBW 21 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 2: porn star. She opens up about the challenges, the stereotypes, 22 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: and the behind the scenes realities of being a plus 23 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 2: size performer. We dive into body confidence, representation and what 24 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: it takes to SUCCEEE in the industry that often has. 25 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 3: Narrow beauty standards. 26 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 2: This episode is raw and it is definitely one of 27 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:47,199 Speaker 2: those ones. So get ready because I'm a BBW porn star. 28 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 2: Starts now, how did you get your start in poor? 29 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 3: Well, to begin, I was my aunt told me I 30 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 3: do everything, so why not tried to get in a magazine? 31 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: But what do you mean by everything? 32 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 3: Like I do photo shoots? You know what I'm saying. 33 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 3: I mean like, I'm not ashamed, I'm not a you know, 34 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 3: if I'm gonna do, I do photo shoots. I had 35 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 3: a stripper come to my city and it was quite 36 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 3: a few of them, and I met him. We talked 37 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 3: for a while. He told me about canny and everything else. 38 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 3: So I was like, you know, I wasn't really ready 39 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 3: for I didn't know much about how you do cannan 40 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 3: or anything like that at the time. So then he said, well, 41 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 3: why don't we do a photo shoot? So I did 42 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 3: the photo shoot. He gave me the photos back. It 43 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 3: took like two weeks or something. I forgot all about 44 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 3: the photos. 45 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: You know. 46 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, he just done took the photos 47 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 3: and doing whatever he wanted to do with them, you 48 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 3: know what I mean. So finally, I guess because he 49 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 3: was in college also, but he was a male stripper 50 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 3: and we did the photo shoot. I also, in the 51 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 3: process of waiting for him to give me the photos 52 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 3: of the photos back, I had begun a relationship with 53 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 3: one of my children's football coaches and he started talking 54 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 3: to me about the cam thing, And. 55 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 2: Wait, what is that it is? 56 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 3: It's like cam like you cam you talk to fans people, 57 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 3: they like my free cam streammates. It's different ones. It's 58 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 3: like it's a thousands upon thousands of CAMMI sites. So 59 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,119 Speaker 3: there's there's things like cam models. That's what it's called 60 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 3: being a cam model. And there are male and female 61 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 3: cam models. You know what I'm saying. It's not just 62 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 3: for women. Some sites only cater to women, but then 63 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 3: you have a lot that you know, catered to both. 64 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 3: And you know, so you know you can do it 65 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 3: with alone or with someone else, you know, but they 66 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 3: have to be a member, you know, a member of 67 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 3: the site. You know, someone who's working for the site. 68 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 3: Like they have to have their W two's, and like 69 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 3: you pay taxes on all of this nothing. Yeah, everything 70 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 3: we pay taxes on, you know. So but anyway, she well, 71 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 3: you know, excuse me. The football coach the he was 72 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 3: the assistant, let me get it straight, assistant football coach 73 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 3: of my daughter, because my daughter was the first female 74 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 3: football player, you know, being here in my city. So 75 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 3: and she was, you know, for the kids leagues and stuff. 76 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 3: So me and him talked and he was talking to 77 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 3: me about, you know, all of it and everything. Also, 78 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 3: but the like I said, the stripper knew had a 79 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 3: little more deep detail. He knew more about it, I 80 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 3: guess because he had been involved in it. And so 81 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 3: at that point, the football coach started trying to take 82 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 3: pictures of me. Also, you know, he took a couple, 83 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 3: but his photography wasn't on point, and I like, then 84 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 3: that wasn't then he called itself doing some little photos 85 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 3: of me giving him head. You know, I actually seen 86 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 3: those photos and they are horrendous. They're horrendous. I actually 87 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 3: have them on my laptop and I never showed them 88 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 3: to nobody because they're gross. They just don't look right. 89 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 3: I didn't look right. My parents wasn't right. And it 90 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 3: was in between the me testing the waters on the 91 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 3: type of hairstyles and what was attractive to the audience, 92 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 3: you know, and when I compared it, like it's times 93 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 3: where I've put on a black wig and people were like, uh. 94 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 2: Uh, so you was going resach pretty much. 95 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was doing all of that. So with me 96 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 3: doing all of that and my aunt saying, well, you're 97 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 3: doing all this, you're doing all of this, you might 98 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 3: as well try to get into a magazine. But she 99 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 3: never thought I'd take it as far as I have, 100 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Because I did try to 101 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 3: get in a magazine, but I wasn't. I'm like, I'm 102 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 3: not about to go out here buying magazine, you know 103 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So I have an uncle who lives 104 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 3: across the street from me, and I know he's some 105 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: type of a freak. 106 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 2: You know. 107 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 3: I see all the different type of women he'd be 108 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 3: taking in out the house and stuff, you know. So 109 00:05:59,920 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 3: I know one day he had particularly asked me, did 110 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 3: I have any magazines over here? I know, goddamn pornographic magazines. 111 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 3: You know, at the time that he was asking me, 112 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 3: I had another job, Like I said, I you know, 113 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 3: my daughter was doing the football. You know what I'm saying. 114 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 3: I'm a mother, so you know what I mean. I 115 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 3: was wrapped up in so many other things, but also 116 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 3: had another job. I was self employed, you know what 117 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 3: I'm saying. And I was a childcare provider at the time. 118 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 3: So what they hell would I be doing with sex 119 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 3: magazines right laying around my house, you know what I'm saying, 120 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 3: And what I'm gonna be doing with them anyway? 121 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 2: You know? 122 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 3: In my mind, like I don't. I never been one 123 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 3: to watch porn I or look at magazines. I've been 124 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 3: in adult toy stores and all of that, but not 125 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 3: to bring I bring toys on. 126 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 2: You know, So you never thought that you would be 127 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 2: doing what you're doing. 128 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 3: No, not in no way, shape or form. But when 129 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 3: he asked me, it dawned. 130 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: You know. 131 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 3: I had remembered that in the back of my head. 132 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 3: So when my I was saying, get into you know, 133 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 3: you need to try to get into a magazine. Well, 134 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 3: of course I went over and knocked on his door 135 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 3: and asked him did he have it? After he asked me, 136 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 3: I'll remind you, I'm asking him, Well, let me see 137 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 3: what you got. He was like, well, I done used 138 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 3: all mind me not thinking you know what could be 139 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 3: all over the magazines. So he was like, well, let 140 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 3: me dig something out, and I bring him across the streets. 141 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 3: So he brought the magazines to me. When I tell you, 142 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 3: these magazines was ancient. It was the black and white ones, 143 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 3: like literally the ages was like like warped, and who 144 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 3: knows why they saw work. It could be worked because 145 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 3: of age or because if something else was on it, 146 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But I'm still not I'm 147 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 3: still looking in as a you know, you go back 148 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 3: to your childhood table of contents. So I looking at 149 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 3: the magazines like these are fat white women, you know 150 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, And it's just really some of the 151 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 3: pages stuck together. But I'm still trying to figure out 152 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 3: there has to be a phone number or email. God, 153 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 3: the magazine is like before I was born, probably you 154 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 3: know what I meaning. So remind you this is my 155 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 3: step uncle. He's much older than me, you know what 156 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 3: I mean. So I'm still not thinking. All I'm thinking 157 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 3: is table of content. So I'm looking it's emails. But 158 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 3: you know, like I said, the magazines was old. I 159 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 3: did try the emails. I did try the phone numbers. 160 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 3: From that point on, I finally received those photos from 161 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 3: the stripper. He pulled up. I was outside with all 162 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 3: the kids, you know what I'm saying. He had me 163 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 3: a DVD and I came in the house and you know, 164 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 3: after the kids left and everything. You know, like I said, 165 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 3: I was doing daycare and once I got my kids, 166 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 3: you know, wind down and everything. I came in and 167 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 3: I looked at the DVD and I was blowed away 168 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 3: by the photos. The bad part with the photos is 169 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 3: I was tipsy as hell, So some of them you 170 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 3: could tell I was tipsy, but my makeup was still 171 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 3: on point, and I'm weird all emotions on my face. 172 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 3: So my emotion was I was hot as hell because 173 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 3: I was not tipsy, but drawn fucked up, you know 174 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. And so, but I was still impressed 175 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 3: by the photos compared to the other ones that the 176 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 3: football assistant football coach took, so I was really excited 177 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 3: about it. So I showed them to my aunt and 178 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 3: I showed the the regular pictures, not nothing sexual because 179 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 3: there really wasn't any visual where you could see like 180 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 3: open body parts, you know what I'm saying, open or nothing. 181 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 3: It was erotic, you know what I mean. It was 182 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 3: more erotic photos, you know what I'm saying. I was 183 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 3: still fully clothed, I you know what I mean. The 184 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 3: most that came out was my breast, you know what 185 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 3: I mean. There wasn't any like butt naked. You could 186 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 3: see my butt, you know, but that's it. Nothing where 187 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 3: you know, too bad, nothing busting, you know, the clid 188 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 3: out or nothing like that. So you know, my I 189 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 3: seen them and she liked them or whatever. I showed 190 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 3: them to a couple other people and then I went 191 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 3: on I can't even remember the BBW search something. It 192 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 3: was a website. So I put a couple of photos 193 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 3: up there. I was contacted by a black producer out 194 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 3: of North Carolina. When he contacted me, we spoke back 195 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 3: and forth. Now at this time, I was on social 196 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 3: services by this time, you know, because it wasn't that 197 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 3: many kids in daycare, so I had no choice but 198 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 3: to go and apply. Because I'm still a mother. I 199 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 3: still got to take care of my kids one way 200 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 3: or younger. And I have a big ass house and 201 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 3: not trying to lose my house, you know what I'm saying. 202 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 3: So I had like two kids in daycare who parents 203 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 3: weren't really paying, you know, but I didn't want to 204 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 3: leave let the kids go. You get attached to people kids, 205 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Right, So, and it was 206 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 3: like if I didn't keep them, who would you know, 207 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 3: still struggling, but I still apply for social services. So 208 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 3: you know I'm gonna budget. I'm barely making it. So 209 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 3: I so what I'm I saying, Oh, I went on 210 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 3: ahead and like I said, put those pictures on this site. 211 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 3: The black producer contact when he contacted me, we talked 212 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 3: for a long time, all still talking to him. You know, 213 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 3: he's just one person that actually gave me the time 214 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 3: of day. But you know, you can't believe everything that 215 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 3: glitter ain't gold. And just because I see he got 216 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 3: all these little DVDs and this, that and the other. 217 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 3: He's still saying he wants to shoot me, but he 218 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 3: has you know, this girl and that girl he's working 219 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 3: or it's always some type of fucking excuse, you know 220 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So I started googling things, and this 221 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 3: is something that I had to educate myself on and 222 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 3: when I tell you, day after day, night after night, 223 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 3: day after day, like it was to me like a job. 224 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 3: And remind you of that, too many kids in daycare. 225 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 3: So any spare time that I had, this is what 226 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 3: I did. 227 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,239 Speaker 2: It seems like you was like very like once is persistent, 228 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 2: like once a got in your head, it was you 229 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: ran with it. 230 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I couldn't stop, you know what I'm saying. It 231 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 3: was just like it wouldn't leave my mind. You know, 232 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 3: I got so many compliments in it on on on 233 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 3: that site. And now remind you, at this time, I 234 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 3: didn't have Facebook. I still had that MySpace shit and 235 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 3: I was bored with that. And my kids used to 236 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 3: have Facebook, and I used to get on them because 237 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 3: I used to be mad. I'm like, he's old ass ment. 238 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 3: So I made my kids shut their facebooks down because 239 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 3: they looked at like older men were. Why you got 240 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 3: all these old men on your on your Facebook? Ya? 241 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 3: So at this point, I now I gotta after making 242 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 3: them shut their Facebook down, I have to go back 243 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 3: to them to ask them to teach me about Facebook. 244 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 3: This crazy, you know what I'm saying. So I put 245 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 3: some of those basic photos up or whatever. Not a 246 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 3: whole lot, just a few. And eventually I got contacted 247 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 3: by another guy who is actually the owner of a 248 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 3: what was the owner of a club in the DC 249 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 3: area or I am still talking to the guy from 250 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 3: h North Carolina and the one from the club. He 251 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 3: told me that he does photos and he owned the club, 252 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 3: and this, that and the other, never telling me out 253 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 3: a wife, you know what I'm saying. Anyway, me and 254 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 3: him talked for quite some time. He ended up coming 255 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 3: to my city, coming to Buffalo. He ended up coming here. 256 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 3: When he came here, he came with a woman and 257 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 3: another guy. Now I didn't have no idea that the 258 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 3: other guy actually lived in my city. I never knew him, 259 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 3: never seen them. I'm not I wasn't the type of 260 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 3: person like hanging in straights or whatever. So they picked 261 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 3: me up, came to my home, picked me up, took 262 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 3: me to a hotel, did a photo shoot. We did 263 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 3: a no, a really nice photo shoot. Me being the 264 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 3: type of person I am like, I thought he was 265 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 3: fine as hell. You know, I'm flirting with him. I 266 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 3: don't know this his wife, and she never let knowing 267 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 3: that it is his wife, she never said nothing. And 268 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 3: then eventually the other guy that was with them, he 269 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 3: ended up making a comment the then I put two 270 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 3: and two together, you know what I'm saying, so, and 271 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 3: they ended up we did finish the photo shoot out. 272 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 3: The pictures were lovely. There's some of the pictures that 273 00:13:56,080 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 3: people see online now they're stilled up. So remind you. 274 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 3: I'm still talking to the guy from North Carolina now, 275 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 3: the one that I did that came here and I 276 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 3: did the photo shoot with. They gave me a paper 277 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 3: to side. I ain't know none about a contract or anything, 278 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. It was one page, but 279 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 3: it was pretty basic and it was more like it 280 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 3: was what I learned was content exchange. They could use 281 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 3: the photos what they wanted to use it for, and 282 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 3: I could use it. You know. Nobody received any money 283 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 3: for it, you know, either way. But then after I 284 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 3: signed it, I go in the bathroom, change my clothes, 285 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 3: put my you know, my regular clothes back on, and 286 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 3: they tell me that they've been doing photoshoots of girls 287 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 3: from DC all the way to Buffalo, and nobody does 288 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 3: the camera justice. None of the big girls they've been photoing, 289 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 3: I mean taking photos of did the camera Justice at 290 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 3: the time, and I was like wow, I said, well, 291 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 3: you know, me thinking, well, you must be looking for 292 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 3: bump bitches or something. You know, bitches that ain't even 293 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 3: trying to put it theyself together or whatever. So he 294 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 3: was like, well, they just haven't been working out. So 295 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 3: they told me that since they have my photos, they're 296 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 3: going to make me the face of their club. And 297 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 3: I was like, are you kidding? Now? At this point, 298 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 3: I'm like, that's fucked up. Had they told me that 299 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 3: before that, I would have been on some other type 300 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 3: of shit, right, funny thing, you know what I'm saying. 301 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 3: But again me not knowing and no one ever teaching 302 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 3: me anything. What else, you know, what was I supposed 303 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 3: to do? So at that point, again, I'm still talking 304 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 3: to North Carolina. Man, I'm trying to get in the 305 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 3: porn at this point. Fuck them pictures. You know, they 306 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 3: were gorgeous pictures and all that, but I didn't know 307 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 3: no better. They got over on me, I thought at 308 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 3: the time. You know, now to this day, I only 309 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 3: been in that club one time, you know what I'm saying, 310 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 3: one time ever, but I was the face of their 311 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 3: you know, that's kind of fucked up. But I was 312 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 3: the face of their club, photos of me all over 313 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 3: the club. 314 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 2: I'm the kind of club was it? 315 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 3: It was a bar up the fire club, you know 316 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. 317 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 2: So, so who wasn't that introduces getting ready. 318 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 3: To go to I ended up finally being contacted by 319 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 3: Like I said, I had my photos on that one site, 320 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 3: and I was still talking to that North Carolina man 321 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 3: with all the promises he gonna he gonna gonna shoot me, 322 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 3: you know, he gonna send for me this that you 323 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 3: know this when I tell you this one on about 324 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 3: ten months and I just started getting like fuck it, 325 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 3: but still googling stuff because I'm like, it's gotta be 326 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:39,359 Speaker 3: another way around, you know. So I ended up contacting 327 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 3: Evasive Angels and the man who owned that name was 328 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 3: T T Boy. I had seen little stuff online about him, 329 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying when I could, because you know, 330 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 3: I always had kids around, so when I could, excuse me, 331 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 3: I had seen, you know, little stuff, So I seen it. 332 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 3: I knew he had had a raspy voice, like it 333 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 3: sounded like it was as she like. So after I'll 334 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 3: calling his phone, leaving messages with the secretary, emailing him, 335 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 3: sitting him hella pictures. Mind got who sets of pictures? Now? 336 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 3: Like I got like over six hundred pictures. You know 337 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 3: what I'm saying between two different people. So I'm like, okay, fine, 338 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,479 Speaker 3: ain't nothing gonna happen. I had It was the beginning 339 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 3: of the month. I had paid all my bills. I 340 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 3: getting ready to go to the grocery store. I'm in 341 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 3: a cab, a taxi. I'm getting ready to get in 342 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 3: a taxi. Before I get a taxi, my phone rings. 343 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 3: It's a man talking about Hi this TT boy who. 344 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 3: I said, listen, you know, excuse my langues. Well, listen, motherfuckers, 345 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 3: I cut like a seller. Yeah, listen, motherfucker, stop playing 346 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 3: on my goddamn phone. This TG boy. I'm like, who, 347 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 3: And I'm not thinking because remind you, I just sent 348 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 3: the man a message. I didn't think and why was 349 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 3: I supposed to remember? His name was even d D boy, 350 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So he kept I kept 351 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 3: hanging up on him, and he kept calling. So once 352 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 3: I get in the cab and I'm right at the 353 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 3: door of the grocery store, he calls back. Now, fucking 354 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 3: live it because I see the number. Now I'm starting 355 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 3: to remember the number, like this motherfucker, don't stop playing 356 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 3: on my goddamn phone. Not only money I have is 357 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 3: the money, you know, like my food stamps at the time, 358 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 3: and the money to get you know, household things. Me 359 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 3: and me and my two youngest are in the cab 360 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 3: were getting out. I'm trying to pay the cab driver. 361 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 3: This motherfucker won't stop calling me, so eventually I let 362 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 3: him go ahead and talk, and he started telling me 363 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 3: he wanted me in Miami on a certain day. He 364 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 3: gave me the date. You know, he was like, we'll 365 00:18:56,040 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 3: pay you paid for your travel. I'm begetting I didn't 366 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 3: know nothing about nothing you pay for. You want me 367 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 3: to pay for my motherfucking travel and my hotel. But 368 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 3: he's telling me he's gonna give me half of the 369 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 3: hotel when I get there, in half on the travel 370 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 3: and pay me to shoot. I'm thinking to myself, this 371 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 3: don't make no kind of goddamn sense, right, because pay 372 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 3: for it all. Do you know what I found out 373 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 3: By the time I came into the business, all those 374 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 3: type of things changed because especially for the big girls, 375 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 3: the big you know, the black bbw's in this. You know, 376 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 3: I mean, being a BBW, you know, porn star, They've 377 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 3: made it so hard for us. You know, the girls 378 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 3: before me, A lot of them before me, not all, 379 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 3: but a lot. But anyway, So once I go grocery shop, 380 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 3: and now I'm at the grocery store and I'm stressed 381 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 3: the fuck out because I don't know who this is. 382 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 3: So I get back home, I contact the man from 383 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 3: North Carolina. Little do I know, he had been shooting 384 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 3: girls in North Carolina and selling the content to TT Boy, 385 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 3: so he was for me with him. So after I 386 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 3: told him who he was, and he once kept asking 387 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 3: me what the number was, you know, and I'm like, shit, 388 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 3: you could be telling me any old motherfucker thing. It 389 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 3: seemed like everybody giving me the run rote you. So 390 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,719 Speaker 3: I ended up. He asked what was the phone num. 391 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 3: I didn't want to give him the whole number because 392 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 3: if it was him, you know what I'm saying, that 393 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 3: ain't writing me to do nothing like that. So I 394 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 3: gave him the last couple digits and he was like, 395 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 3: that is t T Boy, And I'm like, the fuck 396 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 3: are you kidding me? But I'm still skied, you know 397 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So I call him back after I 398 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 3: go online. Now at this point, now I know it's 399 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 3: really him. I'm like, Okay, this is my chance to 400 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 3: get in. But I really don't have no money because 401 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 3: I'd have paid all my bills. You know what I'm saying, 402 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 3: I'm gonna limited income. I paid all my bills, I 403 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 3: did all of that, the win grocery shopping. I look 404 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 3: up flights from him telling me where he needed me 405 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 3: to be at this that he other. I looked up flights, 406 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 3: I looked up hotels. That shit. The flight alone was 407 00:20:55,200 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 3: eight hundred dollars and I gotta pay it up front 408 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 3: and you gonna give me half of it back. You 409 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, I know you. You say you're real, 410 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 3: and he's saying that it's really you. But I don't know. 411 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 3: They could be on some kidnap a bit shit him. Yeah, 412 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, I'm stressed out. Like he'll 413 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 3: remind you. It is six o'clock in the evening. He 414 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 3: told me he needed an answer from me by midnight. 415 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't know what you're walking through. 416 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 3: I'm saying, I'm buying myself. I don't know nobody. He 417 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 3: had granted my eye, telling me go do this, go 418 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 3: do that go get in a magazine. But I'm trying 419 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 3: to take it a step further, you know what I'm saying, 420 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 3: because it really wasn't too much to you. It was 421 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 3: too hard to figure out the magazine situation. It seemed 422 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 3: to be a little I got more information about movies, 423 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 3: but couldn't get the right get to the right people, 424 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 3: you know. 425 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 2: So so how'd you get up there? 426 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 3: I didn't go. 427 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 2: Oh. 428 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 3: I called him and I told him, like this my situation, 429 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 3: Like I didn't have any money to be paying up 430 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 3: front or anything like that. I really didn't. I just 431 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 3: paid my bills and I had, you know, went to 432 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,959 Speaker 3: the store. You know, I gotta buy a tissue, and 433 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 3: you know, you gotta budget your shit out. See, I'm 434 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 3: a mother before I'm anything. You understand what I'm saying. 435 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,959 Speaker 3: I mean, my kids come first always, Uh they should. Yeah, 436 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 3: so my home and my kids without either one of these, 437 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be fucked up. So I ended up not going. 438 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 3: I ended up passing it on and he told me, then, 439 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 3: well then maybe next time we can do some business. 440 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 3: I'm gonna keep your information and you know, we can 441 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 3: do something again or whatever. So I'm like, okay. So 442 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 3: after that, a few days later, I ended up talking 443 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 3: to the North Carolina guy and he was like, why 444 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 3: didn't you go? That was the best opportunity, you know, 445 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 3: And I'm telling him, I don't know if any of 446 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 3: you motherfuckers is really real, you know what I'm saying, 447 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 3: because you ain't sent for me yet. So finally, finally 448 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 3: the North Carolina guy ended up sending for me. It 449 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 3: was during some type of rainstorm or something they had 450 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 3: going on in North Carolina. So I was still shook 451 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 3: because now I'm still going off with the motherfucker I 452 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 3: don't know, you know what I'm saying. He ended up 453 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 3: paying for my travel, paid for the room, you know, 454 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 3: little clothes and playroom or whatever. The mal talent didn't 455 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 3: show up the first day, so he ended up keeping 456 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 3: me another day. Now remind you, this was all on 457 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 3: the contingencies of what they called content exchange. After he 458 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 3: explained everything to me, I started learning more and by 459 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 3: the time he had sent for me, had started having 460 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 3: conversations with other producers and they were all saying the 461 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 3: same thing. At this time. At that time, bbw's weren't 462 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 3: making a lot. 463 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 2: Why do you think they'll make a lot of money. 464 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 3: Because the bbw's beforehand fucked the game up. They would 465 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 3: get the money in advance runoff, don't you know what, 466 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 3: they'll get the money. The producers or the companies would 467 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 3: send them the money to book the ticket. They wouldn't 468 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 3: show up. It was just before I came into the business, 469 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,719 Speaker 3: Like I just came in everything. Everything was fucked up 470 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 3: by the time I got. 471 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 2: Involved in the industry. 472 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 3: I've been in seven years, okay, okay, yeah, so I 473 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 3: would say eight nine years ago was when things eight 474 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 3: and a half years ago, Well, I guess when things 475 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 3: started going bad, you know what I mean. And there 476 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 3: was like black Tail Magazine, and like the main people 477 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 3: who actually went out the way and who promoted and 478 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 3: hired the black big girls. They like, you know, Internet came. 479 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 3: You had the man from Blacktail magazine. He died. From 480 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 3: what I understand, I never got a chance to meet him, 481 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 3: the original Blacktail magazine. He died just before I came 482 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 3: in the building. He hired all the new girls, made 483 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 3: sure they stayed paid, made sure they had good gigs, 484 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 3: you know. Like I said, t T Boy, he was 485 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 3: the only one him, And there was another one I 486 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 3: can't think of his name, right now. But there was 487 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 3: another magazine, I mean, another company that was shooting the 488 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 3: big girls too, But then they all started coming down 489 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 3: because of Internet on the prices like when I tell 490 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 3: you offering five hundred shit like that. So my best, 491 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 3: my best deal at that time was what Evasive Angels 492 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 3: was trying to give me. And I was scared to go, 493 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So, like I said, I went. 494 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 3: I shot with the the company from North Carolina. Everything 495 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 3: was fine. The second day the male talent came, I 496 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 3: did the scene. I had a few little issues. I 497 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 3: did the scene totally sober. That was one issue, because 498 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 3: my nerves was a wreck to be. 499 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 2: This was the first time that you had thts with 500 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 2: the male talent mm hm, and you did it sober, yep. 501 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 2: But you wanted to see how I was gonna be 502 00:25:58,640 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 2: though I didn't. 503 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 3: First of all, the man like he paid for the room. 504 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 3: I went down there still on very little money, just 505 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 3: a little money to sleep for emergencies. So you know, 506 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 3: if anything happened, like I said, the company, the man, 507 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 3: the producer, he paid for my travel, you know, well 508 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 3: excuals me mega bus, you know that long ass ride. 509 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 3: He paid for all of that. You know what I'm saying. 510 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 3: He pay for the hotel, you pay for my food 511 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 3: and stuff. But he doesn't drink or smoke or you know, 512 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 3: I don't smoke nothing, you know what I'm saying. But 513 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 3: he don't drink or whatever. He don't do nothing. So 514 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 3: you know, he wasn't buying no damn liquor, you know 515 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 3: what I mean. He made that real clear, you know. 516 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 3: But then as berth, since I was, I couldn't have 517 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 3: had no damn liquor, you know what I mean. I 518 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 3: ended up going to the store and I did buy 519 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 3: a beer. But by the time the male Tanley got 520 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 3: off in his regular job, because most people have a 521 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 3: regular job in this industry, by the time he got 522 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 3: out his regular job and got there and they came 523 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,360 Speaker 3: like in the last minute, they called me. The producer 524 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 3: called and was like, okay, we're on our way. I 525 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 3: had to run get dressed. I come out the bathroom. 526 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 3: Like they got the keys to get in the room, 527 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 3: remind us in their name. So when I come out 528 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 3: the bathroom, there there, you know what I'm saying, the 529 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 3: mele talent comes in, he uses the bathroom, we start shooting. 530 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 2: How was that experience. 531 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 3: It was Okay, I felt like I still have a 532 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 3: relationship with the mel talent. You know what I'm saying. 533 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 3: He comes to my city because he drives truck or 534 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 3: whatever too, so when he comes up here, you know, 535 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 3: we I go see him and you know, we talking, 536 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 3: you know, to spend time talking and stuff or whatever. 537 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 3: You know. It was I felt kind of it felt strange. 538 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 3: And don't get it twisted. I've slept with motherfuckers. I 539 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 3: ain't know it before, you know what I'm saying. But 540 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 3: it was different for the camera and everything. Yeah, I 541 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 3: knew how to I know how to be seductive, you 542 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 3: know what I mean. I know that I have the 543 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 3: eyes you know when I'm looking, I know, you know. 544 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 3: It's just you just can't stare into the camera, you 545 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 3: know what I mean. You gotta act like you don't 546 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 3: know what's going on. But then there was little incidents 547 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 3: where the male talent but he had like bleeding bleeding 548 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 3: like it was little ship that I was like, okay, 549 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 3: this is something wrong. He had shaved and cut like 550 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 3: on his butt, so there was like a little bit 551 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 3: of drop of not drop, a little like a little 552 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 3: line of blood or whatever on. 553 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 2: This nde. 554 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 3: It. It did because automatically I'm like, okay, this one 555 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 3: fucking gay, which don't get it fucked up. There's you know, 556 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 3: I have a lot of gay friends, you know what 557 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 3: I'm saying. So it's not that's not the that's not 558 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 3: the situation. The situation is you're fucking me right yeah, 559 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 3: and you bleeding like you're bleeding from your asshole. What's 560 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 3: going on? You know what I mean. So I'm paranoid 561 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 3: like a motherfucker. But he was really cute, he was 562 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 3: really nice. He was you know what I'm saying. He 563 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 3: was He's all right, he was all right, you know 564 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 3: what I mean. Dick big as hell, you know what 565 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 3: I mean. But I mean, it ain't even about the 566 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 3: dick being real big, it's how you use it, you know. 567 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 3: I run it to some issues with my leg, Like 568 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 3: that's what I just went through now. But I just 569 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 3: ran it through some issues with one of my legs 570 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 3: where I realized, like I have a problem, like with 571 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 3: a nerve, so a certain way that he would hit me, 572 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, when he's fucking me, that 573 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 3: my leg felt like it was given out. It was 574 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 3: like an aching but it felt back. It was like 575 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 3: every time he pumps, he hit a nerve from the back. 576 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 3: It hurt it so bad, you know what I'm saying. 577 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 3: It hurt it so fucking bad. Then when we did it, 578 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, you know, just regular missionary style, 579 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 3: I had to kick him off of me because he 580 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 3: was hurting me, you know what I mean. And but 581 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 3: I can't let the camera know. I just literally just 582 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 3: you know, you, threw my legs back, pushed them off 583 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 3: of him, I mean off of me, pushed him off 584 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 3: of me. So, you know, from that point on after 585 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 3: doing that scene, before I even left there, I had 586 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 3: been speaking to a trainee here in my city that 587 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 3: was friends with my sister, but to school with my 588 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 3: little sister, and he had a website or she However, 589 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 3: I don't want to do the pronouns wrong. You know, 590 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 3: she's say she had a website, you know, So I 591 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 3: ended up asking her even before I left my city. 592 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 3: I asked her, could you contact your website people and 593 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 3: ask them if they could, you know, give me a 594 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 3: call or whatever. So they never called me on my 595 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 3: way down, and now, oh I was gonna be able 596 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 3: to put on it. At that time, remind you before 597 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 3: going to North Carolina, was some pictures, no idea. I'm 598 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 3: still trying to do things on my own. I'm knowing 599 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 3: I need to have somewhere to just put everything at 600 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 3: because I know I can't put all of this on Facebook. 601 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I need to have motherfuckers 602 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 3: keep asking me for more and more pictures. I don't 603 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 3: want to be sitting motherfucker's pictures in the inbox. I 604 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 3: know that you're supposed to get paid for it. 605 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 2: Well I'm gonna ask you. Were you getting paid to Sidney. 606 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 3: No, That's why I wasn't sending him. That's why I 607 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 3: wanted a website. You know what I'm saying. That's why 608 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 3: I wanted a website, so that you have to pay 609 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 3: like any other website. You gotta pay the joint. You 610 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 3: know what I mean. You gotta pay the seat. So 611 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 3: he ended like I said, I didn't get no call 612 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 3: from the webmaster on the way there. I got the 613 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 3: call just before I started shooting, while everyone was in 614 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 3: the room. And it's a reminder. It's the hotel room. 615 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 3: We're all in the room, and I told the man 616 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 3: I'll call him back. I'm doing my first scene. So 617 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 3: I ended up calling him back. You know, we talked. 618 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 3: He told me, once I get everything, you know, send 619 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 3: him one fifty. And you know, he said, he'll start 620 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 3: the splash page right now. Just send him a couple 621 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 3: of pictures. So after the scene was over, I sent 622 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 3: him a couple of pictures so he could do the 623 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 3: splash page that very first page, and I picked. He 624 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 3: sent me three different ones. I picked, and I ended 625 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 3: up sending him all the photos. He put all the photos. 626 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 3: So I got a uh, but I don't got my 627 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 3: I don't finish the scene. Now, this is what I'm 628 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 3: talking about about. I don't know, motherfuckers, I don't know 629 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 3: the game. You are go again, so now get I 630 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 3: come all the way. I stay in North Carolina for 631 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 3: like five days. Remind you, I finished the scene on 632 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 3: the second day, so I ended up staying there a 633 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 3: couple of days more. You know, I ended up coming home. 634 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 2: Did you get paid for that scene? 635 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 3: No? It was content exchange. 636 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 4: Wow. 637 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 3: It was a content exchange where he could put it 638 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 3: on his stuff and I could use it. Remind you, 639 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 3: I need the scene. I got a sight, you know 640 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 3: what I mean. I went down there knowing I need 641 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 3: something to prove that I can do porn. See if 642 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 3: everyone could do it, everyone would be a real porn 643 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 3: star and not a in your bedroom with the camera 644 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 3: with you and your man with your cell phone. You 645 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. If everyone could do it, everyone 646 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 3: would be nominees, a war would attend these shows, would 647 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 3: be invited to do things, would be on some of 648 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 3: the products, and some of the things. You know what 649 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 3: I'm saying, would get endorsements. If everyone could do it, 650 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 3: It's a big difference from doing in your bedroom by yourself. 651 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 3: And who gives a fuck you would? You know whoever? 652 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 2: You know? 653 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 3: I know they have all the other the free sites 654 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 3: where people are putting all those up. And I'm not 655 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 3: taking nothing from porn hub or anything else, because hell, 656 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 3: I got some half a minute shit up on porn 657 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 3: Hub too, you know what I'm saying. But I don't 658 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 3: keep I don't indulge in constantly putting stuff up there 659 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 3: because I prefer I want to be paid correctly, not 660 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 3: not a half a penny or a penny for a movie. 661 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 2: Do you get paid more for certain things? 662 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 3: You get paid more for DP, which I don't do 663 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 3: double penetration. I don't feel like my shit is big 664 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 3: enough for all that. I feel like it's gonna bust through. 665 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 3: You cannot put a dick in my ass and in 666 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 3: my coochie have to say that's too much. I'm not 667 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 3: real big there, so I just feel like it's gonna bus. 668 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 2: Open girl me too. 669 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 3: You know those in aintal are the biggest for you know, 670 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 3: female ainal and double penetration. So I guess I ain't 671 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 3: gonna never get no double penetration money because I'm just. 672 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 2: Not doing it. How much double penetration. 673 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 3: I don't know, but I know it's the largest amount. 674 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 3: I don't I don't neither know because I'm not doing 675 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 3: it right. I'm not doing it. It's not for me. 676 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 3: Ain'tal is hard enough, you know what I'm saying. So 677 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 3: that's not I'm not gonna get it for me. 678 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, when I was watching the documentary and how like 679 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 2: they try to stay away from antal, like they wait 680 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 2: until they got a couple of years. Yeah, and then 681 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 2: when they do do it, it's like they ask me out literally. 682 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not going to and by the time you 683 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 3: do it. That's why I don't do it. Girls that 684 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 3: do it and they have their and stuff like that. 685 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 3: I just choose not to do it. I've done ain'tal, 686 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 3: you know. I mean, I've done anal in my private life, 687 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 3: of course, but that's been like with my baby daddies 688 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 3: or something like that. But as far as in the industry, 689 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 3: I've only done two antal scenes. 690 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 2: Is there a thing you wouldn't do besides those two? 691 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't do dps. I don't do cream pies, 692 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 3: which is girl, that's the that's the slang for the 693 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 3: Caucasian people, cream pies. Girl, that's come in you. I 694 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 3: don't do that. First of all, I have an issue 695 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 3: with anything dripping out of me like that. For seventy 696 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 3: do you know what I'm saying? Only thing should come 697 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 3: out of a woman is her own body. I feel 698 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 3: that's just how I feel on her own. You know, 699 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 3: your own juices and your period. I just don't like 700 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 3: all the drainage, you know what I mean? I don't 701 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 3: know because I'm single now. I don't like the smell afterwards. 702 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 3: I mean, each is sown, but I feel like, come 703 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 3: make your pussy steak. 704 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I did. When I was with my research, 705 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 2: I noticed that a lot of I guess in the industry. 706 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,280 Speaker 2: They don't condone condoms. 707 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 3: They don't condone them. No, because we're we're tested, like 708 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,919 Speaker 3: depending on who you're working with. Me myself, I use 709 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 3: talent testing services and. 710 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 2: I won't watch I saw that. 711 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,800 Speaker 3: I won't work with you if you don't use talent 712 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,879 Speaker 3: testing services, and I won't work with you if your 713 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 3: test is two weeks and all that. Oh, I mean 714 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 3: each his own, you know, I mean you're when you 715 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 3: go through talent testing services, they have it set up 716 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 3: where two weeks and lets you know when your two 717 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 3: week mark comes, your three week mark comes, your four 718 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 3: week market then they say you need to be tested. 719 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,280 Speaker 2: Against because I think you have that on your site. 720 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm real. I broadcast mine. I put 721 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 3: it out there, and it's not even just for me 722 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 3: to put it out there, because the world will know 723 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 3: if you went to these sites and you know what 724 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 3: I'm saying, and you typed in my name and you 725 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 3: know my information or whatever. I broad as myself right there. 726 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 3: I'm not ashamed. You know what I'm saying. I don't 727 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 3: give a fuck. I raised my kids and never was 728 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 3: a secret from my family. You know what I'm saying. 729 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 3: I got like one or two people my family who'd 730 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 3: be telling me, Oh, you don't gotta do this, and 731 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,399 Speaker 3: you don't gotta do that. Ain't nobody making me do it? 732 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 3: You know? I do it because I want to do it, 733 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 3: and I do it because I'm good at it, and 734 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 3: I do it because I've built this brand, you know 735 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, and it is. It's not an everlasting 736 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 3: thing that I'm gonna do t I know, but I 737 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 3: started it. I feel like I conquered it. I came 738 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 3: in and I blew through it. I got some of 739 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 3: those paid scenes when nobody else was getting them at 740 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 3: a certain at a certain point, I own my own 741 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,800 Speaker 3: I own a lot of my rights too, you know 742 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I shot with some people that a 743 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 3: lot of people that when BDW said they were never 744 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,359 Speaker 3: when they said that they weren't male talent. Okay, For one, 745 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 3: Wesley Pipes, I worked with him. He wasn't working with 746 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 3: big girls anymore at the point that I worked with him. 747 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I got hired by a 748 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 3: company from Cali. I told a friend of mine, which 749 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 3: is another male talent, that I did my very first 750 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 3: antal scene with me and him were like like. 751 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,840 Speaker 2: Huh is he dead girl? 752 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 3: But it like this. He's good at what he does, 753 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 3: but it's the camera. He's basic. Like you know what 754 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 3: I mean, guys, But he's great. He's a great porn star, 755 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 3: a great talent, and I mean that. 756 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:54,840 Speaker 2: I know. 757 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 3: People call him the shit talker you always got. I 758 00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,879 Speaker 3: got guys who'll be like, yeah, he talked too much, 759 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 3: but Joe I asked to sit there and listen and 760 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 3: laugh along. He has humor in what he does. But 761 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 3: he's very, very good. He's very he will teach you 762 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,800 Speaker 3: what you don't know. You know what I'm saying. 763 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 2: He's I'm pretty sure you learned a lot about yourself, 764 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 2: actually too. 765 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, I learned a lot. Actually. The first time I 766 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 3: squirted was with him. I didn't know. I've had an 767 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 3: ex used to didn't never tell me that, like when 768 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,320 Speaker 3: I'm riding his face or something, that I'll be squirtling. 769 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 3: I didn't know he'll get busy cleaning it all up. 770 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 3: So I did. I didn't know shit, you know what 771 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 3: I'm saying. And I because that was my people, you 772 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So when I was asked to 773 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 3: do these things with Wesley, you know. I guess they 774 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 3: took it to him and wanted to make sure that 775 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 3: I was what he wanted to work with. And I 776 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 3: was a fresh face, you know what I'm saying. I 777 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 3: was even though I had been in the industry for 778 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,800 Speaker 3: like two years, I was still considered a fresh face. 779 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 3: I didn't. I still limit who I work with, Like 780 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 3: a lot of the girls are just going and working 781 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 3: with Tom Dick and Harry. I'm very choosy and there's 782 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,360 Speaker 3: been a lot of people who have asked me to 783 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 3: work with them, and I told them no. You know 784 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, I just have issues with a lot 785 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 3: of because it has to be beneficial for me. Just 786 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 3: because you work with Jane, Elisa and Kelly, don't mean 787 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 3: that that's what I want on my shit. Don't mean 788 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 3: that I you know what I mean. You might look 789 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 3: good on camera with gunshot wounds and stab marks on 790 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 3: Laura's site, but I don't want those stabbed up motherfucker 791 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 3: on my site. I feel like I do enough for 792 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 3: that with the stretch marks and on it. 793 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, when I was on your page, I feel like, 794 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 2: well I was on your site because I can do 795 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 2: my research. I feel like most of the men kind 796 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,879 Speaker 2: of like you got like they kind of they don't 797 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 2: look alike, but they kind of like they don't look crazy. 798 00:40:56,040 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm real picky. I'm very very picky on who 799 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,320 Speaker 3: I deal with. And I know a lot of people, 800 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 3: like you know, there's a particular company and I love him. 801 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 3: His name is Ken from BBW Highway shouts out to him. 802 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Ken runs quite a like 803 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,840 Speaker 3: about two or three different companies. He's you know, he 804 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 3: still shoots the big girls. Then now he's into just 805 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 3: the girls with the big booties, you know, different type 806 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 3: of stuff, you know, and with him he is, he 807 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 3: shot some stuff for me, but he's like as far 808 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 3: as companies, like he started telling people. This is recently 809 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 3: is when I really realized that he knew that I 810 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,840 Speaker 3: took what I do seriously. And we were in Vegas 811 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 3: and someone came in and they were doing like a 812 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 3: weekend a marathon shoot during av in a wartime, and 813 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 3: I was staying at the house like he rented, like 814 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 3: a mansion or whatever. So that first night that I 815 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 3: was there, since I came in so late, he picked 816 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 3: me up from the airport and I stayed at the house 817 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 3: so that following morning, I'm getting dressed, soul, I can 818 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 3: go do my testing while I'm out in Vegas and 819 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 3: someone comes in and the guy sees me and he's like, 820 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,839 Speaker 3: oh my god, is that her? Wait a minute, wait, 821 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,360 Speaker 3: wait what's her name? And he told her mind or whatever. 822 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 3: And then the guy was like, well, if she shooting. 823 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 3: By this time, I'm walking in the room, but I 824 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 3: hear everything. He was like, Yo, you know, she really 825 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 3: ain't ain't shooting, but I'm sure she will shoot, but 826 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 3: you know you gotta pay her. 827 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 2: Right do you have do you have some prices for things. 828 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 3: Depending on if I for certain companies like now the 829 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,759 Speaker 3: manager that I have now, because remind you that the 830 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 3: people who did come to Buffalo with the wife and everything, 831 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,799 Speaker 3: they ended up being my managers. They ended up I 832 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 3: ended up. But he didn't know anybody, He ain't know 833 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,840 Speaker 3: anybody me and m ended up in a relationship. In 834 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,879 Speaker 3: the whole fucking nine it went, you know, it went 835 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 3: totally to the left. It went where shouldn't have went, 836 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And now my manager who 837 00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 3: I have now, we were friends for a long time 838 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 3: and I ended up telling him, like you know, he 839 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 3: was handling certain things. Because men in this industry are vultures. 840 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 3: They take advantage of the girls. And it's the black men. 841 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 3: I love my brothers, but a lot of the producers 842 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 3: in this industry, especially the East Coast producers, take advantage 843 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,880 Speaker 3: of the girls. You know what I'm saying, They really 844 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,799 Speaker 3: really do a lot of them. You know, they're just 845 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 3: not into helping the girls with anything. Like I just 846 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,879 Speaker 3: don't think it makes any sense for you to sin 847 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 3: tell a girl to come to your city or whatever 848 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 3: to shoot you not paying her. It's gonna be content exchange. Yeah, 849 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 3: you know. But see some of these girls don't even 850 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 3: have websites, don't know how to set up clip stores, 851 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 3: don't have you know, don't have anywhere to post their 852 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,799 Speaker 3: stuff at. And the thing these days is because of 853 00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 3: the way the Internet has tooken over so much. Either 854 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 3: your gonna get paid by your company or you're gonna 855 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:07,600 Speaker 3: decide to do your own website and own your material. 856 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,360 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. If you own your material, 857 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 3: I mean there's good and there's bad. You can get 858 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 3: paid by this company. You don't get paid one time. 859 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 3: You gotta remember that that's it. This is not a 860 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,399 Speaker 3: you get paid back to back. You know you're gonna 861 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 3: keep getting the check, and that's not how it works. 862 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,840 Speaker 2: Has ever been a scene when you didn't feel comfortable 863 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 2: doing it and you're just like, nah, I'm not doing it. 864 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 3: I had a scene when she's a sweet lady. I 865 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,280 Speaker 3: think it was the worst, one of my worst scenes. 866 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 3: I've had three scenes that I feel I shouldn't have 867 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:58,440 Speaker 3: ever did, and one was I loved the lady. Once again, 868 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,959 Speaker 3: it wasn't her, it was her melting. And I don't 869 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 3: give people no I don't care. I do name drop 870 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,400 Speaker 3: when it comes to this kind of stuff because they 871 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 3: know how I feel. I worked for a bussy baby douse. 872 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:14,280 Speaker 3: Everybody loves the scene. I hate the scene. I hate 873 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 3: the scene. And I think because before you get ready, 874 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 3: even though you don't have time to get to know 875 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 3: a person, this particular man that I worked with for her, 876 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 3: I had time to get to know him for maybe 877 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 3: a year before she ended up, you know what I'm saying, 878 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,719 Speaker 3: contacting me and asking me to shoot with her. I 879 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,319 Speaker 3: tried to get on her site for years and she 880 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 3: kept denying me. She said I didn't have enough attributes. 881 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,359 Speaker 3: Whatever the fuck that is. 882 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, what does she mean? 883 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,879 Speaker 3: I guess my ass wasn't big enough. My titties ain't 884 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 3: on the floor, you know what I'm saying. Like, you know, 885 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 3: but I have a different look like a lot of 886 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 3: the girls in the industry look alike, you know what 887 00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 3: I'm saying. And I don't feel like I look like 888 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 3: any of them. And I'm saying even like we all 889 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,920 Speaker 3: got little pouches or whatever. You know, well I got 890 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 3: a big pouch, but whatever of a big girl. But 891 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 3: at that time, I was shooting back to back to 892 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 3: back to back for a company called PYT out of 893 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,440 Speaker 3: New York. And his name is pretty So I was 894 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,800 Speaker 3: shooting for him NonStop, back to back to back to 895 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 3: the back, you know. And I think because they had 896 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 3: a big BBW party going on out there for pipes, 897 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,920 Speaker 3: I went and It's like at that point when I 898 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:40,320 Speaker 3: was going out there, I had like six people different 899 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,880 Speaker 3: companies that wanted to shoot with me, all at the 900 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 3: same time. And that's when she jumped on the bandwagon 901 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:47,880 Speaker 3: and was like, I'm like, oh, now you want to 902 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:52,440 Speaker 3: work with the bitch that don't have enough attributes. So 903 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 3: at that point my price played in my benefit, you 904 00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,160 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, But then I also had I 905 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,919 Speaker 3: knew that the bbw's fucked the game up they did, 906 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,919 Speaker 3: you know, versus it before it got so bad where 907 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 3: everything needed to be content exchange or whatever. But she 908 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,799 Speaker 3: was pretty good. She paid me. She kept trying to 909 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,720 Speaker 3: get me to do anal and I would have done anal, 910 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 3: but the male talent rubbed me wrong. Remind you, I 911 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 3: have been talking to this man for a year before that, 912 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,560 Speaker 3: and I didn't want to go to the location that 913 00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,799 Speaker 3: she wanted me to come to. So I said, the 914 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,320 Speaker 3: only reason, only way that we would do the shooting. 915 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:31,920 Speaker 3: She had to come to me because I ain't too 916 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:33,839 Speaker 3: keen about getting on the trains in New York City 917 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,400 Speaker 3: by myself, you know what I'm saying. At that point, 918 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,240 Speaker 3: I was like, shit, I ain't trying to get ribed. 919 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 3: I ain't trying to you know, I was going through it, 920 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,760 Speaker 3: so can She ended up coming to my room or whatever. 921 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 3: She had him come to the room. Do you know 922 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,800 Speaker 3: this motherfucker came in my room and didn't even speak 923 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,360 Speaker 3: to me. And maybe I'm old fashioned or something, but 924 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,359 Speaker 3: when he came out, I was like, Hey, he didn't 925 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:56,040 Speaker 3: even speak to me. He wouldn't you know, he talked 926 00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 3: to her. Literally, it's just me, him and her in 927 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,160 Speaker 3: the room. He would not beat to me in no way, 928 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 3: shape or formed. What kind of fucking bullshit is this? 929 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,879 Speaker 3: I felt totally disrespected, you know what I'm saying. 930 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:07,800 Speaker 2: He said that. 931 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,560 Speaker 3: He didn't say, I said, what kind of bullshit is 932 00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 3: all right? 933 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 2: Because he was being rude. 934 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 3: I thought that was real rude. But I'm trying for 935 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 3: a year, right, I was trying to be professional about it, 936 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 3: you know, and not go off because normally I'll cut 937 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 3: you the fuck out. You know what I'm saying, This 938 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,919 Speaker 3: is my motherfucker room. She ain't paid for this room, 939 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,480 Speaker 3: yet she's paying me. You know what I'm saying. She's 940 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 3: a wonderful you know, a wonderful young lady, beautiful woman, beautiful, 941 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,240 Speaker 3: pretty as hell, you know what I'm saying, Very easy 942 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,400 Speaker 3: to get along with, easy to work with. But him, 943 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:47,160 Speaker 3: there was absolutely no chemistry because of his attitude. So 944 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 3: I was totally turned off. Then the motherfucker came out 945 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:54,239 Speaker 3: the bathroom. I didn't know what the fuck he had on. 946 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,440 Speaker 3: I didn't understand it. He was not At this point, 947 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,640 Speaker 3: not only is you ugly inside, to me, you look 948 00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,359 Speaker 3: like a fucking idiot on our side walking out here 949 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,680 Speaker 3: with all these goddamn stripes and colors and stripes going 950 00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,080 Speaker 3: this way, colors going that way. What is going on? 951 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 3: And I'm like, what do you got on? He said, 952 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,799 Speaker 3: all the girls like it? I said, on what? 953 00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:16,239 Speaker 2: Not? 954 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:22,720 Speaker 3: On earth? So anyways, we end up doing the shoot. 955 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:29,000 Speaker 3: That is when I really really came to my mind, 956 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,279 Speaker 3: like I didn't never have any problems, you know, I 957 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,120 Speaker 3: tested detail and testing all the time. But that's when 958 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,800 Speaker 3: I started finding out that girls in the industry truly 959 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,200 Speaker 3: was sucking dicks. Some of them, not gonna say all 960 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,800 Speaker 3: of them. Some of them would be okay with giving 961 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,920 Speaker 3: head without a condom, but fucking with the condom one. 962 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:53,080 Speaker 3: To me, it makes no sense the mouth you getting 963 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,360 Speaker 3: you with them? You know what I'm saying. And I 964 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:56,800 Speaker 3: don't want nothing neither place. 965 00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,399 Speaker 2: Well, I know that you said you got you get 966 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,399 Speaker 2: tested on tested often? Has there ever been a time 967 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,799 Speaker 2: that you've been afraid of getting any stvs? 968 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 3: There was a guy, Actually that's not that same weekend 969 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:13,640 Speaker 3: it was all? Was it that? No, wasn't that same 970 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,880 Speaker 3: weekend when I was There was another weekend when in 971 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,680 Speaker 3: New York and there was a fairly new talent that 972 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,319 Speaker 3: my people used before. He was the only one out 973 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,160 Speaker 3: of the whole group that I may use a condom 974 00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:28,719 Speaker 3: because his test was late. And I'm not with it. 975 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 3: If I feel any type of way and I can't 976 00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,719 Speaker 3: find a pattern of testing, you know what I'm saying, 977 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,920 Speaker 3: You're gonna do talent testing services. Your stuff stays on record, 978 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,279 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I just don't. I don't 979 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,359 Speaker 3: take chances. I'm not into you know motherfuckers like, well, 980 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 3: can I just go to my doctor? Hell no, yeah, 981 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,440 Speaker 3: you can do that, and I'm gonna look at it. 982 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:53,320 Speaker 3: But I need you to go today, right. I need 983 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,640 Speaker 3: it to be if you got tested and we know 984 00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,000 Speaker 3: a month before I'm gonna need you to you go 985 00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,040 Speaker 3: to your doctor for that month before, you know, while 986 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 3: we prepare ourselves and you know, before we come up 987 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 3: to that date of the time of shooting. You know, 988 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,319 Speaker 3: you can have a pattern of you know, I need 989 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,000 Speaker 3: I would like to see a pattern of cleanliness, you 990 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,960 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. But when it comes time to 991 00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,319 Speaker 3: do this shoot, you need to be going at least 992 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 3: those three days before it's time for us to do 993 00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,239 Speaker 3: that shoot. I'm really not big one a person who's 994 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:26,520 Speaker 3: been tested thirty days ago. I feel that that's a problem, 995 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:31,040 Speaker 3: and I don't feel that you're serious about your craft. Yeah, 996 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,600 Speaker 3: because it's bad enough within three days. A motherfucker can 997 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:36,720 Speaker 3: can fuck the world in three days. 998 00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:38,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, lit alone one day. 999 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:42,879 Speaker 3: So and that's why when it's something from my website, 1000 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,680 Speaker 3: I watch it. I watch your social media, you know 1001 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I watch the different shit, the comments 1002 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,600 Speaker 3: that go up, the comments that the stats you put up. 1003 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,640 Speaker 3: I watch because I need to see. I need to 1004 00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:59,799 Speaker 3: see what type of lifestyle you actually living. I watch 1005 00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:02,400 Speaker 3: you lives. I do all of that, you know what 1006 00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,960 Speaker 3: I mean, because I want to see if you're promiscuous. 1007 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 2: Is sex even pleasurable for you anymore? Though? 1008 00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:10,920 Speaker 3: Yes it is when I'm with somebody I want to 1009 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,840 Speaker 3: be with m But is. 1010 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,759 Speaker 2: It hard for you to open up to somebody and 1011 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,799 Speaker 2: let them know exactly what you like another profession that 1012 00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:18,120 Speaker 2: you're in. 1013 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:24,200 Speaker 3: No, because most people already know. Most people already No, 1014 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:29,920 Speaker 3: Like in my city, they're watching my movies. They already 1015 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 3: know who I am. I got a large fan I 1016 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:36,480 Speaker 3: got fans here. I don't feel like my city supports 1017 00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,200 Speaker 3: like they should. I don't. But so does a new 1018 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,440 Speaker 3: movie come and I put it out that there's a 1019 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,160 Speaker 3: new movie. You know what I'm saying there constantly, Well, 1020 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:45,680 Speaker 3: let me get it, let me get it. You know 1021 00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,680 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I know for a fact that there's 1022 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,480 Speaker 3: a lot of my movies that are being bootlegged in 1023 00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:54,880 Speaker 3: my city because if it's not authentic and it didn't 1024 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,360 Speaker 3: come from some of the places here that is actually 1025 00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,160 Speaker 3: selling it, that I would you know, you know, do 1026 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,560 Speaker 3: business with in my city. Anything that comes from me, 1027 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:09,480 Speaker 3: I am burnt onto the CD. Wow, that's not the 1028 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,000 Speaker 3: sticky tape shit that they put on the you know, 1029 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,560 Speaker 3: the front of the seat. No, burnt on. I pay 1030 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,359 Speaker 3: the money for me to be burnt on because I 1031 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,240 Speaker 3: feel that it's a keepsake. You know what I'm saying. 1032 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,279 Speaker 3: This has come this authentic, and it's not just like 1033 00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,880 Speaker 3: my face. No, there's a body part, a titty, titty 1034 00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,200 Speaker 3: in my mouth, my pussy as in my pussy. 1035 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,320 Speaker 2: I was on your website. I was like, oh, she 1036 00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:38,760 Speaker 2: she's busting it up a bit open, like I said. Okay, 1037 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,480 Speaker 2: So I'm pretty sure there have been time that you've 1038 00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,440 Speaker 2: been out on the street and people can't come up 1039 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:44,959 Speaker 2: to you and be like, Hey, that's so and so, 1040 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:46,759 Speaker 2: so and so well. 1041 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,800 Speaker 3: In my regular everyday life. This is funny, as you're saying, 1042 00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,480 Speaker 3: it's because my graphics artist always complains about it. I 1043 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:57,000 Speaker 3: am the most dressed down person when I tell you, 1044 00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,799 Speaker 3: I walk two blocks to the Family Dollar or you 1045 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,640 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Everybody on my street knows about 1046 00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,480 Speaker 3: the industry, except for the new family that moved over here. 1047 00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,560 Speaker 3: But I walked to Family Dollar. I put a scarf 1048 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,719 Speaker 3: on my head, and I always look, you know, my 1049 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:16,240 Speaker 3: piercing in my eyebrow. I put the scarf on where 1050 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,080 Speaker 3: I constantly be pulling it over it because I don't 1051 00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,840 Speaker 3: want everybody to know, you know what I mean. I 1052 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,120 Speaker 3: want to be able to walk to the store and 1053 00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,359 Speaker 3: be dressed down. But the one thing I don't want 1054 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,600 Speaker 3: them to do is see me off guard and realize 1055 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,759 Speaker 3: who I am and start taking pictures you know what 1056 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,080 Speaker 3: I'm saying, and put it on social media because I'm 1057 00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:37,360 Speaker 3: looking busted. Yeah, I ain't got all that makeup on. 1058 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,359 Speaker 3: And that's the one thing that people seem to think 1059 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:40,799 Speaker 3: is that we wake up like that. 1060 00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,560 Speaker 2: Yo. You know, It's so funny because when I'm out 1061 00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,200 Speaker 2: like the most part I'm always on, but when I'm 1062 00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,480 Speaker 2: all like, I have to put on shades and stuff 1063 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,480 Speaker 2: because I do not want people seeing me like they're like, 1064 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,960 Speaker 2: sometimes you just want to be to yourself. Yeah, and 1065 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,800 Speaker 2: then mama, and you say no to a picture or 1066 00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:56,520 Speaker 2: like you say no, it's not feeling like you're not 1067 00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,080 Speaker 2: feeling well, filling off to speak to somebody. They people 1068 00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,160 Speaker 2: say you. 1069 00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,759 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yes they do. 1070 00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:05,280 Speaker 2: I'm just tired. 1071 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:10,560 Speaker 3: I mean, I got on jog apions T shirt. Look 1072 00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,080 Speaker 3: at fuck a person push up bra because these these 1073 00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,080 Speaker 3: puppies ain't sitting up saying hello now without a push 1074 00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:22,640 Speaker 3: up bra, you know. So I wear sports bra at work. 1075 00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:24,799 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I'm going to hold these 1076 00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,120 Speaker 3: motherfuckers downs. They don't get in a way, you know, 1077 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,040 Speaker 3: and I did. It was crazy because there was a 1078 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:36,080 Speaker 3: deaf guy that actually knew who I was. They started 1079 00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,640 Speaker 3: discussing it, and I had a guy at my job 1080 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,359 Speaker 3: that I was. I was this. I ain't gonna lie. I'm 1081 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,040 Speaker 3: very attracted to him, very attracted to him, you know 1082 00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,640 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. And every time he touches me, it's 1083 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,640 Speaker 3: just like, oh, I get that, you know, that little 1084 00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:51,040 Speaker 3: feeling feeling. Yeah. So when he's like one day and 1085 00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:54,359 Speaker 3: grabbing my arm or some ship and trying to talk 1086 00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,160 Speaker 3: to me, and I was like, oh, and like I'll 1087 00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,880 Speaker 3: say little things. I'm like, oh, I need a fucking massage. 1088 00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,640 Speaker 3: My back hurt. It's so bad. He like, I can 1089 00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:03,680 Speaker 3: massage you. And then he make a little you know, stop, 1090 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:05,680 Speaker 3: don't play with me, boy, because I'll suck around and 1091 00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:10,239 Speaker 3: take it. Okay, you know he knows too. They though 1092 00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,560 Speaker 3: the death Boy did a little sign language one day 1093 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:20,000 Speaker 3: and I noticed it. Yo, the black dude he knew 1094 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,640 Speaker 3: about who I was. Awesome me and him. I disgusted 1095 00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,239 Speaker 3: he knew, you know, but I know he never he 1096 00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:28,600 Speaker 3: hadn't told anyone. The death Boy says something to him 1097 00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,280 Speaker 3: about it, and the black dude he had just turned. 1098 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,560 Speaker 3: He was like ya, and I'm like, talk about what 1099 00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,880 Speaker 3: he said. He knows who you are. And I'm like, 1100 00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,839 Speaker 3: oh the fuck here we go. So here I go. 1101 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,799 Speaker 3: I'm coming. You know what I'm saying down the hall 1102 00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:43,919 Speaker 3: And I just went reached down and shook his hand. 1103 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,920 Speaker 3: Yes it's me. I just nodded up now yup and 1104 00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,319 Speaker 3: shook his head. And then he put his hands up 1105 00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,680 Speaker 3: asked to say zip. His mouth was closed. He'll never 1106 00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:53,760 Speaker 3: say nothing about him shop. 1107 00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:59,480 Speaker 2: What do your kids do? Yeah, yep, oh aw mm hmm. 1108 00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:04,160 Speaker 3: That kid's support. I've took in my youngest with me 1109 00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:09,920 Speaker 3: to a convention a couple of years ago. She's eighty, 1110 00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:11,840 Speaker 3: but when she was eighteen, I took her to a 1111 00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:16,840 Speaker 3: convention because she does hear and does makeup. And it's 1112 00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,520 Speaker 3: easier when I got someone with me. Because I do 1113 00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,760 Speaker 3: so much. I have really came to a realization like 1114 00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,800 Speaker 3: I need an intern. You know what I'm saying. I 1115 00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:32,280 Speaker 3: need help. It's hard when you got shots. I got appearances, 1116 00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,160 Speaker 3: and then I gotta be at the convention and a 1117 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,760 Speaker 3: period there too, in these heels. Then I gotta rush 1118 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:44,600 Speaker 3: back to the room, change clothes, take a shower, trying 1119 00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,240 Speaker 3: to look through my suitcase for figure out what outfit 1120 00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,120 Speaker 3: I want to wear. I got fifty When I say, 1121 00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,200 Speaker 3: I take everything, including the kitchen, sink, in the tub, 1122 00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,040 Speaker 3: in the shower head too. I have one suitcase all 1123 00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:00,120 Speaker 3: the time with nothing but shoots. Oh wow, you know 1124 00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,920 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Because that's the difference from me and 1125 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:07,640 Speaker 3: a lot of the other girls. I like. My wardrobe 1126 00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:12,080 Speaker 3: is so very important. My shoe game is on fucking point. 1127 00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,440 Speaker 3: I like shoes and things that nobody else is wearing. 1128 00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,840 Speaker 3: Most of these girls, most of the girls wear the 1129 00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:21,560 Speaker 3: same thing, you know, the stretchy outfit that you get 1130 00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:25,800 Speaker 3: for twelve or fifteen dollars out the hairstore, you know, 1131 00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,000 Speaker 3: with the with the holes and the fishing their holes 1132 00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,200 Speaker 3: or whatever. You know what I mean. I like things 1133 00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:33,720 Speaker 3: that stand out that's gonna make you look double take. 1134 00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I like to look different, 1135 00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,160 Speaker 3: you know, so my shoe game and my outfit is 1136 00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,680 Speaker 3: very important, you know you, Like I said, everyone looks alike, 1137 00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,360 Speaker 3: and I don't want to be looking nor act just 1138 00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:49,080 Speaker 3: like anyone else. I am me and I'm different. You know, 1139 00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,120 Speaker 3: some people could say I, you know, like the shoes. 1140 00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,320 Speaker 3: That'd be like, how are you walking in those? One 1141 00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,960 Speaker 3: foot in front of the other, bitch. You know what 1142 00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,800 Speaker 3: I'm saying. You know, I get a lot of ems 1143 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,800 Speaker 3: on the clothing and the shoes and different stuff like that. 1144 00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,280 Speaker 3: You know, a lot of big girls can stand and 1145 00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:08,400 Speaker 3: know what I call whole heels. You know what I'm saying. 1146 00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:10,680 Speaker 3: They are wearing the fat heels, which ain't nothing wrong 1147 00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,640 Speaker 3: with the fat heels. But what works for my body 1148 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:17,080 Speaker 3: is what I wear right, And I don't think that 1149 00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:21,240 Speaker 3: you Yeah, that's how I've made my image, you know, 1150 00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,280 Speaker 3: talking about my clothing and stuff. I went to Texas 1151 00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,160 Speaker 3: and a radio show wanted me to come in and 1152 00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:30,000 Speaker 3: before I didn't even know they what. They asked me 1153 00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:33,560 Speaker 3: for interview. When I got to Texas to come into 1154 00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,240 Speaker 3: the studio and they would do the interview. But the 1155 00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:39,360 Speaker 3: day before I left, they called me talking about they 1156 00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:41,440 Speaker 3: want to they all want to know what I'm weary, 1157 00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:43,680 Speaker 3: what I'm going to be bringing, what type of shoes. 1158 00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,000 Speaker 3: That's what brought me to the light that these people 1159 00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,600 Speaker 3: really like my style, right, you know what I mean. 1160 00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,360 Speaker 3: So I'm just different differently. 1161 00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:54,320 Speaker 2: What's next after form? 1162 00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:59,440 Speaker 3: Well for you, I am in the process of getting 1163 00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:02,080 Speaker 3: ready to start trying to write a book. I've spoke 1164 01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:07,880 Speaker 3: to you know, a few people, and one person the price, 1165 01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,280 Speaker 3: he told me, because my life. I mean, I'm not 1166 01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,440 Speaker 3: no eighteen year old, seventy year old, you know what 1167 01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,000 Speaker 3: I'm saying. So I've had so much happen to me 1168 01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,080 Speaker 3: in my life. When I say a lot, a lot, 1169 01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:21,480 Speaker 3: from being molested to being rapes abused. You know what 1170 01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,320 Speaker 3: I'm saying, by the kids, fathers. You know what I'm saying. 1171 01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:28,720 Speaker 3: You know, drugs, I've done it, I've been through it. 1172 01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,120 Speaker 3: I did stake time. I mean, I've had so much. 1173 01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:35,400 Speaker 3: So it's like I'm writing it down. I'll go crazy 1174 01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,200 Speaker 3: trying to do that. So what someone told me to 1175 01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,960 Speaker 3: do after speaking to this this company about me writing 1176 01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,080 Speaker 3: the book and stuff, they told me to just verbally 1177 01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:47,480 Speaker 3: record it, right, you know what I'm saying, Just record 1178 01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,400 Speaker 3: and then they'll go through and listen to the tapes. 1179 01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,120 Speaker 3: That's a lot of damn tapes. 1180 01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:58,080 Speaker 2: Well listen, you pay them then you. 1181 01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:01,160 Speaker 3: I could never do that, so so that ends. I'm 1182 01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:07,280 Speaker 3: also getting ready to release. I have the the the 1183 01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,320 Speaker 3: promos from my eyelashes and stuff. So I got that. 1184 01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,080 Speaker 3: I've got, I've chosen the boxes that I want to use. 1185 01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:17,880 Speaker 3: I'm saying because I've already been branded. You know, I'm 1186 01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:21,880 Speaker 3: already on a rated X energy drink. I am a 1187 01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:24,680 Speaker 3: face of an energy drink. My whole body is on 1188 01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:28,760 Speaker 3: an energy drink Can Nice. You know that's the You 1189 01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,520 Speaker 3: will see that on the website too, you know what 1190 01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:33,960 Speaker 3: I mean. The picture that's actually you know what I mean. 1191 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:35,920 Speaker 3: The the logo and all that rated X that's on 1192 01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:40,320 Speaker 3: the website because yeah, because I am on their can 1193 01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,360 Speaker 3: like literally on there, you know. So and it's crazy 1194 01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,640 Speaker 3: that I'm going to be talking about that because the 1195 01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:49,400 Speaker 3: same person who owns that ken in that company is 1196 01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:54,280 Speaker 3: actually running for an office in New York City. Wow, 1197 01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,520 Speaker 3: like everyone had a pass. And you know what I'm saying, 1198 01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,720 Speaker 3: But you can't let your future define what you're you 1199 01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,760 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Whatever you did in your past, 1200 01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:06,920 Speaker 3: you know, do you. 1201 01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:10,280 Speaker 2: Think that the things that happened to you as well? 1202 01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:13,120 Speaker 2: I don't know the age, but being molested in raven abuse, 1203 01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,240 Speaker 2: you think the hug allot to do what you being 1204 01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:15,760 Speaker 2: a porn thar. 1205 01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:21,760 Speaker 3: I think with me knowing how to do certain things, 1206 01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:26,440 Speaker 3: it's because you had to be taught, right, m you know, 1207 01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:32,480 Speaker 3: And that I see the person regular who molested me. 1208 01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,960 Speaker 3: Really it's my and I'm really not that I told 1209 01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:39,160 Speaker 3: you when before we decided to do this, when you 1210 01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,439 Speaker 3: contacted me, like, there is no shame in my game. 1211 01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,760 Speaker 3: And I don't know how I'm gonna go about it, 1212 01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:46,680 Speaker 3: but that will be part of some chapter of my book. 1213 01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:51,480 Speaker 3: My sister's father, you know what I'm saying. And you know, 1214 01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:54,440 Speaker 3: I love my mother, you know what I'm saying. And 1215 01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:56,720 Speaker 3: I was raised by you know, between my mother and 1216 01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,840 Speaker 3: my grandmother. But at the end of the day, I've, 1217 01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:01,000 Speaker 3: like my mother. 1218 01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,360 Speaker 2: Knew how is your relationship with her? 1219 01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:07,760 Speaker 3: Now? It's not good at all? Right, Like she sends 1220 01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:11,280 Speaker 3: my mother lives in Virginia, and she sends me, you know, cards, 1221 01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,480 Speaker 3: sends my kids cards. You know what I'm saying. She 1222 01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:15,960 Speaker 3: talked to the kids whenever she want whatever, you know, 1223 01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:19,480 Speaker 3: But as far as me and her, I can't. I 1224 01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:23,880 Speaker 3: just can't, you know, when you tell your child things 1225 01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:27,880 Speaker 3: like you just try to take my man and you 1226 01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:33,040 Speaker 3: and I'm eleven, twelve years old. Yeah, and I've told 1227 01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:36,640 Speaker 3: you what was going on, you know what I'm saying. 1228 01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:38,919 Speaker 3: And you know I didn't. I wasn't the first one 1229 01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:43,080 Speaker 3: to tell her. My my sister's godmother told her, you know. 1230 01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:46,680 Speaker 3: And I ran away, ended up getting picked up and 1231 01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,840 Speaker 3: was you know, placed in a facility, and my mother 1232 01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:51,840 Speaker 3: came to see me. And I refuse to leave with 1233 01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:54,640 Speaker 3: them because I knew what I was going back to, right, 1234 01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:57,360 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I refuse to leave. She 1235 01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:59,520 Speaker 3: comes in with the very motherfucker that's doing it to 1236 01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,280 Speaker 3: me and not tell her about it. And she's in 1237 01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,600 Speaker 3: the facility telling me that I'm just trying to break 1238 01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:06,480 Speaker 3: them up and I'm trying to take her mand and 1239 01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:09,080 Speaker 3: I'm telling you that, you know, I'm twelve years old. 1240 01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:12,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely had to play a part, because if 1241 01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:14,280 Speaker 2: you're telling somebody or something's going on with you, that's 1242 01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:17,360 Speaker 2: being done by being done by somebody that she has 1243 01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:21,000 Speaker 2: a relationship with, Like and I'm twelve years old, Yeah, 1244 01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:22,040 Speaker 2: I seeing. 1245 01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:25,480 Speaker 3: You that relationship literally, you know how like when you're 1246 01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:27,840 Speaker 3: if you have a closet in your room, you know, 1247 01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:32,320 Speaker 3: that's how close our bedrooms was me and my mother. 1248 01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,960 Speaker 3: You can't tell me on a daily basis that you 1249 01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:40,680 Speaker 3: didn't know. Yeah, And I'm being threatened with, you know, 1250 01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:42,880 Speaker 3: like if I'm you, if I'm sneaking out the house 1251 01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:44,960 Speaker 3: my mother at work and I'm going to see your 1252 01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:48,600 Speaker 3: little boy or whatever, and he's coming by the house 1253 01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:52,080 Speaker 3: when she's gone, and him telling me, well, I'm gonna 1254 01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:53,800 Speaker 3: if you don't do this, I'm gonna tell that you 1255 01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:55,880 Speaker 3: did this. You was going to see that boy, you 1256 01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:57,520 Speaker 3: was going to you know whatever. Whatever. 1257 01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:00,640 Speaker 2: And you're twelve years old, so you're a done. You're scared. 1258 01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:05,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm going along with it, right, you know, 1259 01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:09,160 Speaker 3: but me not me knowing it's wrong, but nobody listening 1260 01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:12,400 Speaker 3: to me. But this is my only way, you know 1261 01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:14,560 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, because like my mother, you know, I 1262 01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:16,680 Speaker 3: don't want to be put out on the street right 1263 01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:19,320 Speaker 3: at twelve years old, Like what am I supposed to do? 1264 01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:21,960 Speaker 3: And so when I ran away, like the last time, 1265 01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:25,320 Speaker 3: I was like it, it was like it, I just 1266 01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:27,920 Speaker 3: refused to come home. So I've been raising myself literally, 1267 01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,600 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. To be honest, I've been 1268 01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:32,600 Speaker 3: raising myself even though I lived in a house with 1269 01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:36,320 Speaker 3: my mother or whatever. Pretty much ten years old, I've 1270 01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,160 Speaker 3: been pretty much on my own. So I was ten 1271 01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:42,520 Speaker 3: years old, I've been taking care of somebody's kids, my sisters, 1272 01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:45,000 Speaker 3: all my brothers, you know, my father's kids, all of 1273 01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:48,120 Speaker 3: that since I was ten years old, you know what 1274 01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:51,160 Speaker 3: I'm saying. So you know, when you're thinking you're gonna 1275 01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:53,440 Speaker 3: be put outside, and shit, you don't got no choice, 1276 01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:54,640 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. You have to do what 1277 01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:57,440 Speaker 3: you have to do, you know. And I was at twelve, 1278 01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:02,680 Speaker 3: and you know it just I feel like I perfected 1279 01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:07,480 Speaker 3: the craft because I was taunted. Wow, you know what 1280 01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:10,560 Speaker 3: I'm saying, and you know I was I had to do. 1281 01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:13,160 Speaker 2: Do you ever think about it? If things wouldn't happen 1282 01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:14,880 Speaker 2: to you, that she probably went down a different. 1283 01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:20,360 Speaker 3: Path, you know what I do? Like I started picking 1284 01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:24,440 Speaker 3: older men. Yeah, My oldest daughter's father is seven and 1285 01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:25,920 Speaker 3: a half years older than me, and I feel to 1286 01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:28,480 Speaker 3: this day he's a fucking ped of file. I feel 1287 01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:30,560 Speaker 3: like he is too, because he was seven and a 1288 01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:33,600 Speaker 3: half years older than me. He was holding my hand 1289 01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:36,280 Speaker 3: at seven years old. I was put in positions I 1290 01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:39,360 Speaker 3: feel that a child should never have been put in. 1291 01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:43,400 Speaker 3: I kill a rock. I was very protective of my girls, 1292 01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:45,760 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, especially my youngest too. My 1293 01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,439 Speaker 3: oldest is you know, much older, you know what I mean, 1294 01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:53,240 Speaker 3: but my youngest two very I didn't have boyfriends, you 1295 01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:56,280 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Like by twenty six, twenty seven 1296 01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:58,960 Speaker 3: years old, I ain't have niggas up at my motherfucking house. Listen, 1297 01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:02,760 Speaker 3: I didn't even win. My brothers would be here along 1298 01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:05,040 Speaker 3: with my kids, would be here, but my other houses 1299 01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:08,960 Speaker 3: along with my kids. I questioned it because I was 1300 01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:12,960 Speaker 3: blessed by the very person that I loved to death, 1301 01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:16,400 Speaker 3: the very person who defended me when my mother was 1302 01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:18,480 Speaker 3: getting ready to whoop me, or you know what I'm saying, 1303 01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:24,440 Speaker 3: the very person that I trusted more than anybody, you 1304 01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:27,360 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, And the very person who fucked 1305 01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:30,880 Speaker 3: the shit out of a little girl. Yeah, you know. 1306 01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:35,240 Speaker 3: So you know, I do believe that when I finally 1307 01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:38,960 Speaker 3: left home, you know, with my oldest daughter's father, I 1308 01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:42,680 Speaker 3: do believe that had I not been chasing behind them, 1309 01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:44,800 Speaker 3: to me, it was looking for love and all the 1310 01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:48,840 Speaker 3: wrong places. Had I not been chasing behind him, I 1311 01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:52,920 Speaker 3: would have stayed in school and did what I needed 1312 01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,520 Speaker 3: to do. I was on honor roll, you know what 1313 01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:58,160 Speaker 3: I'm saying. I was doing great. I had a few 1314 01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:02,040 Speaker 3: fuck ups, like cans of beer to school and drinking 1315 01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:07,960 Speaker 3: it in the lunch room, doing stupid. She against suspended 1316 01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:14,240 Speaker 3: for a dumb shit. I don't even ask what made 1317 01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:17,240 Speaker 3: my ask. But when I step back and think of 1318 01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:19,400 Speaker 3: some of the ship I did, I still think it 1319 01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:23,680 Speaker 3: was reaching out. I needed help, you know, and. 1320 01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:26,720 Speaker 2: You would just find articulated the best way you knew how. 1321 01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:29,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I needed help, you know, and and and I 1322 01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:31,960 Speaker 3: didn't have nobody to help me or to tell me 1323 01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:35,200 Speaker 3: nothing like literally a kid raising herself. 1324 01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:38,800 Speaker 2: You know, do you have any regrets? 1325 01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:44,400 Speaker 3: You know what, I love all my kids, but I 1326 01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:48,760 Speaker 3: don't wish kids. I could never do it again. You know, 1327 01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:53,160 Speaker 3: my oldest daughter's father, I truly regret, regret him because 1328 01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:55,280 Speaker 3: I feel like, had I not been looking for loving 1329 01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:57,120 Speaker 3: all the rough places, But who's the same. If it 1330 01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:59,479 Speaker 3: wasn't him, it wasn't something gonna be someone else. But 1331 01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:03,559 Speaker 3: I think that he took a lot of self esteem 1332 01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:08,080 Speaker 3: from me. I feel like when he manipulated me, I 1333 01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:10,920 Speaker 3: was still a kid, you know what I'm saying. I 1334 01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,519 Speaker 3: felt like he was taking care of me. But then 1335 01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:17,400 Speaker 3: the abuse. You know what I'm saying. I did what 1336 01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:19,920 Speaker 3: I learned, what I was taught, like the abuse, seeing 1337 01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:24,400 Speaker 3: abuse and being abused, and like, this motherfucker really did 1338 01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:27,840 Speaker 3: things to me that you know, nobody should ever Hell, 1339 01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:31,040 Speaker 3: the first car I ever bought was for him. Yeah, 1340 01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:33,320 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. It was because I thought 1341 01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:37,519 Speaker 3: this motherfucker loved me. I thought when a motherfucker beat 1342 01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:40,640 Speaker 3: your ass, that that was what you're supposed to you 1343 01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:42,800 Speaker 3: know what I mean, You're supposed to stay because my 1344 01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:46,680 Speaker 3: mother did it right, you know, I feel like I 1345 01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:50,280 Speaker 3: broke the cycle because out of every woman on my 1346 01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:53,120 Speaker 3: mother's side of the family, they stayed down to my grandmother, 1347 01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:58,479 Speaker 3: they stayed. That's all I knew was to get your 1348 01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:01,439 Speaker 3: ass beat. You know what I'm saying. I'm getting beat 1349 01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:04,320 Speaker 3: down at home. I'm getting beat down, you know what 1350 01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:06,559 Speaker 3: I'm saying by the man that I think I love. 1351 01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:09,080 Speaker 3: You know what I mean all of that. Yeah, granted 1352 01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:11,240 Speaker 3: he took me in, but hell, I wouldn't have got 1353 01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:14,040 Speaker 3: put out if I wasn't creeping off with him, right, 1354 01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:16,760 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So it was just like 1355 01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:21,919 Speaker 3: it's a it's a psychle O saying it's a psycho. 1356 01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:25,800 Speaker 3: And this is why I've really I as far as 1357 01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:29,880 Speaker 3: you know, as far as my kids, I didn't really 1358 01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:33,320 Speaker 3: have men living in my household, you know, as my 1359 01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:35,960 Speaker 3: When my oldest daughter left home and she was out 1360 01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:39,439 Speaker 3: the house, I finally started dating again, and I was 1361 01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:42,280 Speaker 3: so scared. You know, I was terrified because I still 1362 01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:45,040 Speaker 3: had to work. I have money put up, but I 1363 01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:47,840 Speaker 3: still kept on working. But I was still scared to 1364 01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:50,920 Speaker 3: leave my kids with that motherfucker. Right. So it was 1365 01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:54,280 Speaker 3: a constant, every day, constant asking questions. You know what 1366 01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:56,760 Speaker 3: I'm saying, did he touch you? Did anybody? You know? 1367 01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:59,040 Speaker 3: I would do things to my kids like you. 1368 01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:01,719 Speaker 2: Know, that's one of those things that you was asking 1369 01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:04,040 Speaker 2: because you want somebody to ask you that. 1370 01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:07,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody reached out. It wasn't really. I just was 1371 01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:09,800 Speaker 3: protective and I had to make choices like damn, can 1372 01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:12,720 Speaker 3: I go to work or do I I don't not 1373 01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:17,000 Speaker 3: to blame him for what was done to me, you 1374 01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:18,920 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. But I don't trust nobody with 1375 01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:25,000 Speaker 3: no kids like that. In church, everyone is not holy. Yeah, 1376 01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:28,160 Speaker 3: you know, everyone is not the You know, it's not 1377 01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,880 Speaker 3: safe to leave your kids around. But it was like, Okay, 1378 01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:32,880 Speaker 3: he's living in my house. I take care of his 1379 01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:35,960 Speaker 3: daughter and my own kids, but I gotta go to work. 1380 01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:40,000 Speaker 3: It's choices you have to make, and I you know, 1381 01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:43,120 Speaker 3: and I was grateful. I'm grateful that God blessed my 1382 01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:46,240 Speaker 3: kids enough to know to you know, cause I'm to 1383 01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:48,360 Speaker 3: be able. They can come to mimmy and tell Mimmy, 1384 01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:50,760 Speaker 3: don't be used to always tell them, you know, you don't. 1385 01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:52,120 Speaker 3: Never got to be scared of up or something. But 1386 01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:53,920 Speaker 3: they're gonna kill me. Shit. I got a double bear 1387 01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:56,759 Speaker 3: of sawt off for each and everyone looks up teddy 1388 01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:59,840 Speaker 3: bullets to this thing. I double bear sawt off, you know, 1389 01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:01,479 Speaker 3: saying to send in my house with me. 1390 01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:10,160 Speaker 4: Now that's my man and on that note, that's my 1391 01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:15,360 Speaker 4: If y'all have any questions, any concerns, any comments, you. 1392 01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:17,600 Speaker 2: Want to get to know my guests, mar this it 1393 01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:22,200 Speaker 2: has been literally one of my favorite episodes. Please email 1394 01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:26,120 Speaker 2: me at hello at the Professional Hoomegirl dot com and 1395 01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:39,320 Speaker 2: until next time, guys later. The Professional Homegirl podcast is 1396 01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:42,439 Speaker 2: a production of the Black Effect podcast Network. 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