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Speaker 1: Football League, It's Gill Alexander live from the South Plam
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Speaker 1: and he looks at me with a vague familiarity. He's like,
Speaker 1: I think this guy is supposed to be here. Uh.
Speaker 1: That is the voice of West Reynolds. He is from Visa.
Speaker 1: He is the guest, the rotating guest on the podcast UH.
Speaker 1: This week he's the co host with Fami Bebifet of
Speaker 1: visen Live bet tonight Monday through Friday, nine pm Eastern,
Speaker 1: six pm Pacific here on the network West Glad to
Speaker 1: have you man, Glad you could, and of course the
Speaker 1: staples of the show alongside here at the south Point
Speaker 1: Jeff Parlay, Ladies and gentleman used to be producing number
Speaker 1: five and eight, the Grover Cleveland producers on a numbers game.
Speaker 1: Now he hosts his own weekend show here at the
Speaker 1: network with Ben Wilson. Usually usually yeah, not usually, that
Speaker 1: isn't always. Actually, I've bet Saturday and Sunday see the
Speaker 1: weekend version of what West does. And you and Ben
Speaker 1: have known each other for ages, so you guys are buddy.
Speaker 1: So you guys are just clowning around all weekend long essentially.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, the eleven years now, that's a great program
Speaker 1: right there. And ladies, gentlemen from his mom's cork addict
Speaker 1: way in at two hundred and three American pounds, Todd
Speaker 1: wish neev how you doing man, that's me baby, that's
Speaker 1: me two oh three, over a hundred pounds lost. Yeah,
Speaker 1: baby Pesik is at what now? He was two hundred
Speaker 1: on Monday. However today he's at one four because he
Speaker 1: hasn't been eating for three days. Well on Monday, I
Speaker 1: was two or four. He was two hundred. He got nervous,
Speaker 1: so he hasn't eaten anything basically for for three days.
Speaker 1: And now he's But it's a gaze because it is
Speaker 1: soon as as soon as he starts eating again, he's
Speaker 1: gonna blimp back out and I'm gonna fly right by him.
Speaker 1: I'm Wisconsin, the old Wisconsin against ball State. You just
Speaker 1: hand him the ball. It's now the getting to the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter and cash. His defensive line is tired. I
Speaker 1: tell him every day. Steve Fezi back to back Hilton
Speaker 1: Super Contest, winners of football handicapping contest back in the day,
Speaker 1: and the bet once again Todd will win nine thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Steve would win three thousand depending on the come but
Speaker 1: Todd well on his way to nine thousand if he
Speaker 1: passes Steve. Uh Steve had a like a sixty pound
Speaker 1: head start in this and his hair great air sixty
Speaker 1: two pound head start started in May of this year
Speaker 1: theoretically would go to May of next year. But at
Speaker 1: any point, if Todd passes Steve in the weight loss challenge,
Speaker 1: then it's over. It's all over and Todd wish unless
Speaker 1: he gets to one before me. Well, he knows. He's
Speaker 1: a smart enough guy to know that this this strategy
Speaker 1: is unsustainable, right, Like he can't just fast what was it,
Speaker 1: young kipor every day for him? Yeah? Yeah, he basically
Speaker 1: is playing the young Kior system. Maybe Steve that more,
Speaker 1: maybe has more sins to a table than the Catholic
Speaker 1: on this panel gets that joke. Alright, Um, so let's
Speaker 1: do court stenographer first. We're kind of killing it on
Speaker 1: this little show, aren't we this year? Yeah, Scilly the
Speaker 1: iceman is no longer the ice man. This guy can
Speaker 1: just hit him. He was seven and two coming and
Speaker 1: he wounded a nice little Raiders and cards a stinky
Speaker 1: Rams pick. But two and one is very solid for
Speaker 1: nine and three. His teaser lost, as a lot of
Speaker 1: our teasers lost because a lot of us had Rams
Speaker 1: plus seven and plast week have sucked this year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's two and two on the teaser. Jeffrey is that
Speaker 1: guy's like a Hall of Famer, the likes of the
Speaker 1: Houston quarterback three he's at Davis Mills Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1: He's six and three, hits three and oh with the
Speaker 1: cards have tied the over in the l A Clippers
Speaker 1: Houston game, and the races and the rates for his
Speaker 1: nine and three he stole my Raiders pick uh and
Speaker 1: he's not allowed to bet the Clippers next week. Then
Speaker 1: you can't bet basketball teams anymore at quarterback now l
Speaker 1: A C l A C. Same thing. I came in
Speaker 1: at four and five, went a solid two and one
Speaker 1: with my Raiders, my Tennessee plus three and a half,
Speaker 1: and I got cheated in the Bill's Ravens game because
Speaker 1: always a Chief, always and it was a solid winner.
Speaker 1: And then it just just fizzled. So I am now
Speaker 1: six and six. Our guest picker came in six and three,
Speaker 1: another solid week, two and one for Chernoff, Seahawks plus
Speaker 1: four was a winner, Pats plus nine and a half
Speaker 1: was a winner, and Saints plus two and a half
Speaker 1: did not get there. You know what I mean? You
Speaker 1: know what I love about turn off dm me. He's like,
Speaker 1: I cared more about the podcast picks than anything I
Speaker 1: was doing this week, which I appreciate about it. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: So anyways, very very solid, two nine and threes. The
Speaker 1: guest is eight four and I'm six and six, so
Speaker 1: you can't ask for better than that. Really real nice job.
Speaker 1: I wish I would be playing my millions picks because
Speaker 1: I have two millions entries, ones at fifteen and five,
Speaker 1: ones at fourteen, five and one that are sniffing goodness.
Speaker 1: So that's interesting because my millions is not as good.
Speaker 1: It's twelve and eight and west and Jeff, you guys
Speaker 1: do a millions together, right, Yeah, we're twelve and eight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: twelve and eight doesn't feel fun and eight six for
Speaker 1: that good season that you will take every single year.
Speaker 1: But in the contest you are d o A. You
Speaker 1: are d o A drawing dead for sure on that.
Speaker 1: So wait, So it's nine and three, nine and three,
Speaker 1: eight and four and six and six, eighteen and six,
Speaker 1: twenty six and ten. You're six and six, thirty two
Speaker 1: and sixteen. That is six. That is two out of three.
Speaker 1: That is six six seven right there in the percentage.
Speaker 1: We will take that. We'll take it thirty two and
Speaker 1: sixteen collectively on this yere podcast, and the teasers sucked
Speaker 1: right teasers me and jefferre Owen four and Gilly is
Speaker 1: two and two and the guest is two and two.
Speaker 1: I am not taking another Wong teaser the rest of
Speaker 1: the season, just just just for just just for research purposes.
Speaker 1: Now now we are, now we are going to piss
Speaker 1: off every single math person that listens to us taking
Speaker 1: by not by taking non Wong teasers, which the only
Speaker 1: one I should have won this year was the only
Speaker 1: non Wong one that I did, and I lost on
Speaker 1: Pitchy Pitchy Woo Will on Thursday Night with the Steelers,
Speaker 1: who Here's what I want to know? What's the oh
Speaker 1: and like? If you guys go oh and seven? If
Speaker 1: one of you goes oh and seven, oh and a,
Speaker 1: what's the week where you're oh for where you're like,
Speaker 1: I retire from teasers entirely at that point. I would
Speaker 1: just go for eight Booby Price teaser for the show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: one student Booby Price teaser. All right, um, okay, before
Speaker 1: we get to all of our best bets and all
Speaker 1: the standard questions of the show, um, we of course
Speaker 1: have these new staples this week, one of which and
Speaker 1: Jason conn just loves these because he gets to put
Speaker 1: in a drop, the first of which is the coaching
Speaker 1: dumbbell of the week. I don't know, I don't know
Speaker 1: how I feel about that. Can't gonna just pop out.
Speaker 1: It's it's straight out, isn't it. It could have been
Speaker 1: it could have been about ten seconds less. But anyways, Uh,
Speaker 1: I think was very able. Not getting a field goal
Speaker 1: at the end of the first half was very suspect.
Speaker 1: I thought that was some silliness. We've got some candidates,
Speaker 1: right Vrabel nut Vrabel? Well no hold on? So yeah, well, okay,
Speaker 1: which was yours? Vrabel at the end of the Well,
Speaker 1: they didn't at the end of the first half. They
Speaker 1: just botched the whole goal, right, they bought They botched
Speaker 1: the time. That's I wouldn't even put that in like
Speaker 1: the top three. I mean, okay, how about Frank Rych
Speaker 1: kicking a field goal down seven mine? How much time
Speaker 1: was two minutes? Two minutes left in the game? How
Speaker 1: was it? Fourth? And what I'll get you the exact
Speaker 1: Ryan Ryan got all right, I think you Ryan fumbled
Speaker 1: the ball one of his nine bumbles he already has
Speaker 1: this year, by the way, and then uh that put
Speaker 1: them where they were kind of in that no man's land.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you exactly what it was. Down fourth and
Speaker 1: twenty one at the Tennessee thirty three two oh four,
Speaker 1: left all three time outs in pocket ch ops for
Speaker 1: a Chase McLaughlin fifty one yard field goal, which, by
Speaker 1: the way they split second that it came off his toe,
Speaker 1: had no prayer, no chance whatsoever. He was, by the way,
Speaker 1: just activated last week because remember the Colts got rid
Speaker 1: of blankets, right Rodrigo blanketship in the rexpects. And then
Speaker 1: of course the number one kididate has to be that
Speaker 1: John Harbaugh controversy. Should he have kicked a field goal
Speaker 1: and gone up three against the Buffalo Bills with four
Speaker 1: plus minutes left. We're giving a pass to both Cliff
Speaker 1: Kingsbury and Nick Sirianni because there were kicker issues in
Speaker 1: both cases. Right, Matt Prater was hurt and Jake Elliott was,
Speaker 1: plus Jake Elliott had weather issues. So doesn't I don't
Speaker 1: hate it? I did at the time. How did you
Speaker 1: feel about that West? Did you hate it? No? I
Speaker 1: don't because I I kind of got the point that
Speaker 1: it's just the worst thing that could have happened is
Speaker 1: what happened, and that's Lamar through an interception and Buffalo
Speaker 1: gets a touchback. But it is part of the calculus,
Speaker 1: right that happen. It is, But if you don't get it,
Speaker 1: you have Buffalo pinned on the two. And that's what
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people aren't aren't recognizing here
Speaker 1: and maybe aren't talking about that totally changes the play call. Yeah,
Speaker 1: can Josh Allen go nine yards? Absolutely, but that's eighteen
Speaker 1: you know, plus yards less of field position. So yeah,
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna run the ball on first and second down,
Speaker 1: you know, because teams always do that when they're pined
Speaker 1: deep to try to get them some room in case
Speaker 1: they get stops of their putter. Putter is not on
Speaker 1: the very back white line of the end zone. But
Speaker 1: you know, you saw what Buffalo was doing. Because that's
Speaker 1: why I didn't hate it as much, because it's like
Speaker 1: Buffalo was going down there to get some kind of points.
Speaker 1: They were taking knees at the end to end up
Speaker 1: kicking the winning field goal. So I didn't necessarily have
Speaker 1: a problem with us. You're gonna need a TV, Like
Speaker 1: you said, you're gonna need a TV. You're not beating
Speaker 1: them with a field goal. Yeah, Yeah, we're gonna partly
Speaker 1: because he should should have top, but for that one
Speaker 1: I I felt at that moment. I'm just gonna be
Speaker 1: honest about how I felt at that moment. I was like,
Speaker 1: I can't believe they're not taking the lead here, because
Speaker 1: with four minutes it was there's ten minutes left, I'm
Speaker 1: on your side. But with four minutes left, you're just
Speaker 1: talking about trying to end the football game. And so
Speaker 1: I was a little surprised by that, Like, I get
Speaker 1: the case for the opposite, but I would have kicked
Speaker 1: the field goal. I really would have at the time.
Speaker 1: You know, what do you always say about when you
Speaker 1: have a bed in pocket? I had Baltimore plus three
Speaker 1: betted on Sunday morning. I wanted them to go for it, okay,
Speaker 1: because two reasons wanting Baltimore's defense is horrible, absolutely horrible.
Speaker 1: And we saw it up twenty to three, where their
Speaker 1: defense was great for about a quarter and a half.
Speaker 1: They were terrible the last two and a half quarters
Speaker 1: of that game. And we saw the same thing against Miami,
Speaker 1: and really, if it wasn't for mac Jones being bad,
Speaker 1: the same thing happened against New England as well. Matt
Speaker 1: Jones made two horrible throws in that game at the
Speaker 1: end that it saved them. Yeah. So, so there were
Speaker 1: a lot of things that went in their fashion, but
Speaker 1: I wanted them to go for it because I had
Speaker 1: no faith that they were going to get a stop.
Speaker 1: Then I'll give it to you. So that I adhered
Speaker 1: to the betting truth SERREMI. More than anything, I wanted them.
Speaker 1: I didn't want them to run the play they did.
Speaker 1: I wanted at that point, I wanted lamar legs to
Speaker 1: be what got in the end zone there, not Lamar's arm.
Speaker 1: I didn't like the play call more so than it
Speaker 1: so than your vote is for Frank Rereik, then yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's Frankreik for sure. I know it's no
Speaker 1: man's land on four, but you cannot kick in that scenario,
Speaker 1: especially with a crappy kicker who of course didn't even
Speaker 1: come quick even though it was a win. Do we
Speaker 1: not nominate Zach Taylor? Though? For the Thursday night game
Speaker 1: where where there it's fifteen and fourteen, they send McPherson out.
Speaker 1: I think it's like fourth and goal at the one
Speaker 1: to go up seventeen and fifteen. That was after McDaniel
Speaker 1: by the way, that game was a was a a
Speaker 1: trade off of nineteen fifties football decision making. The other
Speaker 1: one is and will land into this the Minnesota Vikings,
Speaker 1: like I don't know if you got up early and
Speaker 1: watch the London game, but like on guessing lines, I
Speaker 1: spent four or five minutes just I'm going through everything
Speaker 1: Minnesota did ridiculously in that game and they still ended
Speaker 1: up winning. But they like the the amount of stuff
Speaker 1: the Vikings, and I'll just mention some of them here,
Speaker 1: but the amount of stuff they did in that game
Speaker 1: and still came out victorious was incredible, um with But
Speaker 1: that was more penalties in a lot of cases, so
Speaker 1: never mind, that's a little different. It's more penalties in
Speaker 1: that case. You used to have faith that this is
Speaker 1: here from Minnesota. Even three none whatsoever, that's going out
Speaker 1: the window. Those are my two so far through four
Speaker 1: games by two worst calls. Minnesota Indianapolis. I think Indies.
Speaker 1: The Indie might on top of being one of the
Speaker 1: biggest disappointments, and they of course played to night, so
Speaker 1: we'll get to that in a second, but they might
Speaker 1: be one of the five worst teams in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Forget being Aaron Shots and Football Outsiders has them dead
Speaker 1: last in t V O way, I don't have a
Speaker 1: problem with that is them in Houston, Indiana, Nay Indiana
Speaker 1: native West Reynolds on the show. So many problems with
Speaker 1: that team. Not only Todd mentioned Maddie Ice nine fumbles,
Speaker 1: he is on pace to shatter to the record, which
Speaker 1: I believe is co held by Dante Culpepper and Carrie
Speaker 1: Colins want a collection. I mean, he's on taste to
Speaker 1: have like thirty plus fumbles. The records just barely over twenty.
Speaker 1: And part of that too because the offensive line, which is,
Speaker 1: by the way, the highest paid line in the NFL.
Speaker 1: What happened to Quinn Nelson. I have no idea. You
Speaker 1: paid twenty million dollars to a guard and I guess
Speaker 1: this is what you get right now. The offensive lines
Speaker 1: badge on it than Taylor, who's not going tonight, hasn't
Speaker 1: been able to get off. They're still kind of trying
Speaker 1: to settle on that receiving corps. They've been a real disappointment.
Speaker 1: And then Darius Leonard, who just came back against Tennessee,
Speaker 1: is going to miss the Denver game at least with
Speaker 1: the concussion so you know the Ballard bike regime. I
Speaker 1: think the bloom is kind of off the rose. Jim
Speaker 1: Mercy has tried to be loss a fair and be
Speaker 1: hands off and let these guys around the team. I
Speaker 1: think it's time then the owner is gonna have to
Speaker 1: step in very damn soon in Indianapolis. So let's talk
Speaker 1: about these games tonight Thursday Night football Colts at the Bronco.
Speaker 1: Wait before we get to that, can I just do
Speaker 1: my in game segment because I think it's a really
Speaker 1: good one. I had one that I was really happy
Speaker 1: with myself about. Um, you know, I basically had a
Speaker 1: middling week with my in game stuff. But there was
Speaker 1: one on Sunday Night football. U Uh. Tampa Bay was
Speaker 1: after they gave up a touchdown to go down thirty
Speaker 1: eight seventeen at the five forty two mark, or the
Speaker 1: third quarter. The Chiefs are now leading by twenty one.
Speaker 1: The line came up some places at sixteen and some
Speaker 1: places at seventeen and a half. I found a place,
Speaker 1: you know, one of my places. At seventeen and a half.
Speaker 1: I took the Tampa Bay plus another down twenty one.
Speaker 1: I took him plus seventeen and a half. At that point.
Speaker 1: Reason being, Tampa Bay was moving the ball the entire
Speaker 1: you know, second quarter, in early third quarter, they were
Speaker 1: moving the football. They looked like they can score, and
Speaker 1: you're getting them at seventeen and a half when you
Speaker 1: know Kansas City is just gonna run the ball in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter and there's huge chances for back to
Speaker 1: our touchdowns as well. I'm getting seventeen and a half
Speaker 1: in that spot, I have to take it immediately. They
Speaker 1: come down, they get to touchdown to go thirty twenty four,
Speaker 1: and the Chiefs come down and kick a field goal
Speaker 1: to go up seventeen. So that that seventeen versus the
Speaker 1: sixteen and a half was I mean, the seventeen and
Speaker 1: a half verse the sixth team was a huge thing,
Speaker 1: which I you know, knew because there was obviously a
Speaker 1: chance that Casey would kick the field goal, so they go,
Speaker 1: but it was all it didn't matter anyways, because Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay was going to get to the backdoor touched on
Speaker 1: which they did final. So that's the kind of thing
Speaker 1: you have to look at these teams. A team that
Speaker 1: can move the football down big has to be taken
Speaker 1: because the other team is going to just run the
Speaker 1: ball and punter, get a field goal or something like that,
Speaker 1: and you're going to get a chance for backdoor touchdowns
Speaker 1: with teams that can move the football. I love it.
Speaker 1: Your it's your facing pro tip of the podcast. No,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a teams that can move the football
Speaker 1: down big gotta take it like the Falcons the other
Speaker 1: I did the Falcons one a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: when they were moving the ball up and down against
Speaker 1: the Rams. Down. You have to take that kind of team.
Speaker 1: I will say this, and I don't mean to like
Speaker 1: Needle parlay, but I paid so little attention to that
Speaker 1: Sunday night football game because I was so locked into
Speaker 1: the Braves and the Mets. So all of that wass
Speaker 1: on me. But I'm glad you brought it up. Um,
Speaker 1: I want big on that game. That was my one
Speaker 1: big nice Alright, So tonight's game Colts at Broncos. Um,
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I have no bets on this. The
Speaker 1: Broncos at three point favorites, and if you just sort of,
Speaker 1: you know again, talk about what's the case for either team,
Speaker 1: I'll just do like a thumbnail the Colts. Well, first
Speaker 1: of all, the Broncos side I mean, you can make
Speaker 1: a huge case here for the Broncos, I suppose, and
Speaker 1: the fact that this is first of all, with Maddie
Speaker 1: Ice and all his fumble problems, it's a short week
Speaker 1: into elevation on the road. There's no Jonathan Taylor, there's
Speaker 1: no Shaquille Leonard as as West mentioned, there's also no
Speaker 1: um there's no Julian Blackman, there's no Tae Kwon Lewis.
Speaker 1: On the Colts defense, do you give Denver a pass
Speaker 1: for their performance against the the Niners when it was
Speaker 1: in you know, elevation there as well? Because San Francisco's
Speaker 1: defense has looked really good since, so maybe you give
Speaker 1: them pass for that. So there's I mean, there's a
Speaker 1: lot going against the Colts in that respect, and they're
Speaker 1: dead last, as we mentioned in d v O A,
Speaker 1: if you believe in that kind of metric. On the
Speaker 1: other hand, what's the counter. No Javonte Williams for the Broncos.
Speaker 1: He's done for the year, Melvin Gordon has fumble litis,
Speaker 1: He's fumbled four times in the last four games. He
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't be playing. If Javontay Williams, he'd be on
Speaker 1: riding the bench. If Javonte Williams wasn't done Josh Jacob's
Speaker 1: gash this defense last week, Josh Jacob's gash is nobody.
Speaker 1: And then the Broncos have had games offensively, We've had
Speaker 1: like a nine three and ounce in one game, they
Speaker 1: only had twelve first downs against the Raiders. So I
Speaker 1: don't know what to do with this. Wes, do you
Speaker 1: have a play? Yeah, I haven't played anything yet. I
Speaker 1: am actually looking at the over, which you would look
Speaker 1: at the numbers and be like, how the hell can
Speaker 1: you look at the over? The Colts are dead last
Speaker 1: and scoring offense four teen point three. Denver not much
Speaker 1: better at sixteen point five. But I think when you
Speaker 1: look at the game plans and the big way the
Speaker 1: injuries are gonna play out here because Jonathan Taylor is out,
Speaker 1: and look the Colts offensive line. They haven't run the
Speaker 1: ball very well anyway this year. But you're gonna have
Speaker 1: name Hines now. They're gonna use Hynes more out in
Speaker 1: the passing game. So Philip Lindsay has actually been activated
Speaker 1: from the practice squad. I former Denver Anco, by the way,
Speaker 1: played football in Colorado, former Buffalo, so you know, big
Speaker 1: game for him. You would expect he's gonna be full
Speaker 1: of piss in vinegar and want to run, you know,
Speaker 1: and really have a great game here. But they're gonna
Speaker 1: use Hines out of the backfield. And that's what a
Speaker 1: lot of Colts fans have been calling for this year,
Speaker 1: is to use Hines. In terms of the passing game,
Speaker 1: I think finally the Colts figured out a little bit
Speaker 1: against Kansas City and especially against Tennessee. Hey, Frank Rich
Speaker 1: used the tight ends a little bit more and Moile
Speaker 1: Cox had a couple of touchdowns. Granson has been good.
Speaker 1: The rookie Gilanni Woods has been good. So you know,
Speaker 1: just looking at what the Colts are gonna do out
Speaker 1: of expect that they're going to move the football a
Speaker 1: little bit better through the air. And I would expect
Speaker 1: Denver is going to do the same too. We know
Speaker 1: Javonte Williams is out. They're still gonna run with Melvin
Speaker 1: Gordon and Mike Boone, I I think, but the Colts
Speaker 1: are very good against the run. Actually, that's one of
Speaker 1: the better things that they do is defend the run.
Speaker 1: They're one of the top few in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: But passing d v o A, I think I saw
Speaker 1: they were like twenty seven or twenty eight, they were
Speaker 1: near the bottom of the league. So I maybe maybe
Speaker 1: Russ is gonna be able to cook and not send
Speaker 1: up raw scallops like he's been sending up to Gordon
Speaker 1: Ramsey all season getting thrown out ahead of hell S Kitchen.
Speaker 1: You know, let Russ cook, Gordon Ramsey saying you've been
Speaker 1: cooking like a donkey. Let's ride run a pass. Two things,
Speaker 1: one West. I am currently full of piss, but not vinegar, okay.
Speaker 1: And to Todd. While we're doing this, we have a
Speaker 1: screen on in the studio and they just showed Dianna's
Speaker 1: advanced auto parts commercials. She was right on the screen
Speaker 1: in front of us. Yeah, she gets She's on that
Speaker 1: big Facebook commercially see all the time. Deanna is killing it.
Speaker 1: Dianna star of Showtimes Action docuseries as well. So so
Speaker 1: a few things with tonight. First off, I like Denver.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be one of my three picks, but
Speaker 1: I do like the Broncos tonight. It feels short week elevation.
Speaker 1: I know the culture as low as they can possibly
Speaker 1: be right now, but if you can't beat this team
Speaker 1: at home on a short week. Then what the hell
Speaker 1: are we doing here with this Bronco teams? And look
Speaker 1: at the biggest thing with India. I actually I meaned
Speaker 1: some crow here for a second. I am apologizing to Todd,
Speaker 1: Wish and everyth because Todd was Ryan all the way
Speaker 1: about Matt Ryan this year. Because even though I thought
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan was going to be bad and it didn't
Speaker 1: take much to be an improvement over Wentz, because Wentz
Speaker 1: was hilariously bad last year. But where's he playing now?
Speaker 1: By the way, I haven't seen his work this year.
Speaker 1: He's He's on a semi pro football team. He's on
Speaker 1: a team that it supposedly takes command. But but but
Speaker 1: Todd was right the whole way because Matt Ryan, like
Speaker 1: West said, like on Paced who said a fumble record.
Speaker 1: Every time I look up, I'm doing the show on Sunday.
Speaker 1: Every time I look up, Matt Ryan is fumbling, period,
Speaker 1: end of the story. And for the Colts, and they
Speaker 1: have to think long and hard this offseason. This isn'tbedding,
Speaker 1: but people to think long and hard this offseason, or say,
Speaker 1: is a really difficult decision of do we just blow
Speaker 1: this whole thing out, get rid of everyone because this
Speaker 1: quarterback a year strategy does not work. It does in work.
Speaker 1: It's too hard. You need so many things to go
Speaker 1: right in order to make the playoffs, as we've seen
Speaker 1: the last few years with this quarterback a year's strategy.
Speaker 1: And it's fun when we talk about the fumble thing.
Speaker 1: We we you know, we say it and we move on.
Speaker 1: But just it's the thing about fumbles is it's whatever
Speaker 1: else you do does not compare to that, Like that's
Speaker 1: a that's a benchable offense, because I don't care what
Speaker 1: else you're doing on these other drives. As you do well,
Speaker 1: if you're putting the ball on the ground, that's the
Speaker 1: end of you, right, you shouldn't be on the field.
Speaker 1: And the record, by the way, is twenty three. I
Speaker 1: was trying to think of the number by Collins and
Speaker 1: oh one and Culpepper or No. Two and Matt Ryan's
Speaker 1: already got nine through four games. This is highly discouraging
Speaker 1: because I still think that he could throw the football.
Speaker 1: And part of it is the offensive line issues clearly
Speaker 1: up front, but ball security, and that's the thing with
Speaker 1: the Colts. They just don't have anybody in waiting. I mean,
Speaker 1: you could maybe go to Sam Ellinger once you get
Speaker 1: him active aided. But yeah, Jeff's right, I mean, Jim
Speaker 1: Ursay is going to have to step in, and Jim
Speaker 1: is getting to the point to where his daughters are
Speaker 1: kind of being groomed to take over the team. They're
Speaker 1: certainly very active in community roles and league meetings and whatnot.
Speaker 1: So that'll be Jim's last chance to really remake the team,
Speaker 1: you know, and kind of get the Colts back on
Speaker 1: a winning Super Bowl heading path. You're not starting Nick
Speaker 1: Foles at any point, Wes They they may, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I just it's just it's been so disappointing
Speaker 1: and so disorganized, you know, ever since Andrew Luck retired,
Speaker 1: you know, just to see you know, they went with
Speaker 1: Rivers and he was breset and he was okay. They
Speaker 1: went with Rivers. He was fine. Carson Wentz if you
Speaker 1: look at the numbers, actually wasn't horrible. He was just
Speaker 1: horrible in bad times, in the worst possible time. That
Speaker 1: is when he would make the biggest bone head play.
Speaker 1: Is that is the over one of your three best bets,
Speaker 1: or that it's not one of my best bets. I'm
Speaker 1: actually waiting. I'm starting to see forty one and a
Speaker 1: half as we record here, it's basically forty two in
Speaker 1: the market. But you know, especially if it got down
Speaker 1: to forty one, I would go in on the over.
Speaker 1: And I know primetime under has been nine and four
Speaker 1: to the under this year. But scoring did go up
Speaker 1: last week. Now, a lot of that was Seattle Detroit
Speaker 1: having ninety three points, but scoring did start to go
Speaker 1: up even if you take that game out. So I
Speaker 1: think we are going to start to see more overs
Speaker 1: than unders over the next couple of weeks. All right,
Speaker 1: let's start with the best bets West. You have honors,
Speaker 1: your honor? What do you got first? Okay? Let me
Speaker 1: I better take a drink of coffee on this one. Now.
Speaker 1: We were just talking about Starbucks all the numbers games. Yes,
Speaker 1: uh so I need some energy to convince people on
Speaker 1: this one. H Which which book do you use? By
Speaker 1: the way, you can do available at three? You're good? Okay,
Speaker 1: it's only available one and that's here at the south Point.
Speaker 1: It doesn't really matter because it's in a dead zone.
Speaker 1: Number best bet number one is the Los Angeles Rams.
Speaker 1: Well five is kind of the ballpark here. There are
Speaker 1: some five and a halves out there. But look, I
Speaker 1: know that this is a really ugly favorite, and I
Speaker 1: expect that Dallas is going to be kind of that
Speaker 1: quasi public underdog, if you want to call it that.
Speaker 1: And what we're starting to see though is the oh man,
Speaker 1: they're just as good with Cooper Rush, you know. And
Speaker 1: and then I see, you know, as I'm coming into
Speaker 1: the studio to prepare for the megapod, I see on
Speaker 1: one of the hot take shows on Cable Sports News.
Speaker 1: Uh can when that comes back? Is this a super
Speaker 1: Bowl team? You know? And and and I just think
Speaker 1: that it's like hauled the phone here with Dallas. They
Speaker 1: were an underdog at the Giants less than two weeks ago.
Speaker 1: They were only a three point favorite over the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 1: They beat the Cincinnati Bengals when they were basically in
Speaker 1: shambles and you know, couldn't protect and Cincinnati came off
Speaker 1: that bad loss in week two. If you take away
Speaker 1: the turnovers, there's a metric I know you're familiar with
Speaker 1: Gil called e p A Expected points added if you
Speaker 1: take away, you know, for turnovers. Because Cooper Rush has
Speaker 1: not turned it over, he's been a very good game manager.
Speaker 1: Dallas is the thirty first ranked offense in the National
Speaker 1: Football League. If you take that out in terms of
Speaker 1: e p A. You look last week where they won
Speaker 1: ten over Washington, you think, oh, pretty convincing. Washington kind
Speaker 1: of beat themselves. They had well over a hundred yards
Speaker 1: and penalties. They actually had two interceptions that were nullified
Speaker 1: by penalty, one by defensive holding, one by an illegal contact.
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush also had three dropped interceptions against him against Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: What do we call that Todd itch interceptions that should
Speaker 1: have happened? Is that our version? So we determined was
Speaker 1: that Tode's metric? Yeah, and we are we having Skype
Speaker 1: issues with Todd? I think we are. Todd's there, Okay,
Speaker 1: can't hear me? Yeah, we hear you know. I'm sorry. Oh,
Speaker 1: he's just very still. I couldn't believe he wouldn't speaking.
Speaker 1: You stunned him in the silence there, maybe stunned into silence.
Speaker 1: And I'm actually laying it with the rams here, but yeah,
Speaker 1: you look, and I just think that this Dallas thing
Speaker 1: is a little bit overblown. They do have, by the way,
Speaker 1: Philadelphia next week. Now. I don't think that this is
Speaker 1: like a quote unquote look ahead spot. But uh, this
Speaker 1: is a bilow for me on the Rams. Rams can
Speaker 1: still really defend the run. Cowboys didn't really run the
Speaker 1: ball very well against the Commanders last week, and and
Speaker 1: I think the Rams, uh, you know, the one thing
Speaker 1: about their defense, they could still stop the run. And
Speaker 1: I do think, and I'm not going to use the
Speaker 1: term do factor, but Cooper Rush is getting ready to
Speaker 1: turn the ball over. I think these these these interceptions
Speaker 1: are gonna be caught and they're gonna be not nullified
Speaker 1: by penalty at some point. So he's ready to turn
Speaker 1: the ball over to you if you let him. I
Speaker 1: think the Rams are gonna let him. Sean McVeigh fifteen
Speaker 1: and eight against the number off of loss four and
Speaker 1: one after losing the San fran And and I don't
Speaker 1: hold that necessarily against McVeigh that much because they always
Speaker 1: lose the San Francisco in the regular season, so we
Speaker 1: kind of expected that. And you look at what the
Speaker 1: Rams are there two and two. I know they're the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl champions, but I don't think they've really been
Speaker 1: that under expectations. They lost to Buffalo, who everybody had
Speaker 1: as the Super Bowl favorite, even behind us here at
Speaker 1: the South Point, Chris Andrews is very ken. It said,
Speaker 1: I don't want any more Buffalo money, so I'm gonna
Speaker 1: lower it as low as I can. Where you stop
Speaker 1: Betty didn't where there's like it's no value, it's too
Speaker 1: small on the futures board. So they lose the Buffalo.
Speaker 1: They lose to San Francisco like they always do. They
Speaker 1: get out big against Atlanta, Atlanta did make a comeback,
Speaker 1: and then the defense dominates against Arizona. So the Rams
Speaker 1: at two and two are kind of where I expected
Speaker 1: them to be. So yeah, I just think the way
Speaker 1: this number is price, it's giving Cooper Russian Dallas a
Speaker 1: little bit too much credit. So I am going to
Speaker 1: lay it with the Rams, all right. For those who
Speaker 1: were wondering, a was Dad gonna play? Dak wanted to play,
Speaker 1: but then Jerry Jones said he can't really grip the
Speaker 1: football to grin and and And that's probably part of
Speaker 1: the reason this went up about a half a point
Speaker 1: because this was like four and a half and five.
Speaker 1: Then some money hit the market yesterday on Wednesday's re record.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I I I just think Dallas just looks
Speaker 1: like to like, how are the Dallas Cowboys? They're playing great?
Speaker 1: How are they getting all these points? Well, I think
Speaker 1: there's a reason. Five and a half is the number
Speaker 1: that we're giving Wessel on this game. We'll see if
Speaker 1: Matthew Staffick get something beyond Cooper Cup and Tyler Higbee.
Speaker 1: My goodness, Um, they're the only guys who have been
Speaker 1: getting open really on that offense. And Stafford what is
Speaker 1: that now? Nine interceptions in his last six games. I
Speaker 1: almost give him a pass right because I'm like, I
Speaker 1: think he's almost getting frustrated. He's already gun slinger by nature,
Speaker 1: and so it's like he's just like, I gotta throw
Speaker 1: it in there and hope on some of these God
Speaker 1: from his mom's ladies, gentlemen, Todd wishing it from his
Speaker 1: mom's cork attic in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. What's your first? Well,
Speaker 1: it's funny that that he has that game, because what
Speaker 1: was gonna be my number one pick but can now
Speaker 1: no longer be? On Monday that the Cowboys Rams game
Speaker 1: was forty six when it came out before the Niners game,
Speaker 1: and I said, that's just way too high. Um, forty
Speaker 1: six is ridiculous for a Dallas game. So I took
Speaker 1: the under forty six. Of course, now it's forty three,
Speaker 1: so I'm not gonna take it under now at forty three.
Speaker 1: But um, you know, I knew that was a ridiculous number,
Speaker 1: especially because I feel like the Cowboys. But I don't
Speaker 1: like the spot here, so you know, I'm not against
Speaker 1: the West Spike here. But I think the Cowboys defensive
Speaker 1: line is the best thing in football, meaning they're really
Speaker 1: good at rushing the past, are better than anybody's like
Speaker 1: wide receivers who were amazing, and then you know, whatever
Speaker 1: unit you take. I love the Cowboys pass rush. I
Speaker 1: love it, and I hate the Cowboys as a team.
Speaker 1: I just love their pass rush and I think they're
Speaker 1: gonna be an under bonanza with Cooper Rush just managing
Speaker 1: games and with that great defense. So I would have
Speaker 1: loved to have the under. I can't do it now,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna go with a different best bet. I'm
Speaker 1: going to go with the Green Bay Packers minus the
Speaker 1: eight uh in Lambo and the frozen time in the
Speaker 1: frozen tundra of London. I don't carebratt him Hotspur Stadium.
Speaker 1: I forgot the it's the Totten in my bed. Anyways,
Speaker 1: I still like it. I don't care minus A. The
Speaker 1: Packers should have crushed first of all, Packers almost won
Speaker 1: the game by seven if Dubs. By the way, why
Speaker 1: do they all call him Dabbs. His name is Dubbs
Speaker 1: Romeo Dubbs from the wolf Pack. He watched him every
Speaker 1: every Saturday night at ten thirty. We watched the Nevada
Speaker 1: Wolfpack against somebody, and his name was Dubbs. Now, all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, his name is Dobbs because he's in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Or is it because the NFL announcers don't
Speaker 1: watch college football. I don't know, but his name is
Speaker 1: Dubbed drives me crazy. Anyways, He's been playing great, but
Speaker 1: he dropped the touchdown at the end. They would have
Speaker 1: won by seven in a game where Aaron Rodgers threw
Speaker 1: a pick six at the end of the first half.
Speaker 1: I heard Rogers comments after the fact that we're not
Speaker 1: playing well, blah blah blah. I think this week is
Speaker 1: the week that they just put a smack down on somebody,
Speaker 1: and I think it's your New York Giants who's playing
Speaker 1: quarterback for the Jackets. I don't even know. Is he
Speaker 1: gonna be on the frozen Tundra? Is it gonna be
Speaker 1: in in London. Who is it going to be and
Speaker 1: where is it going to be? Because I don't know
Speaker 1: who their quarterback is and I don't care. It's time
Speaker 1: for the Packers to smack somebody in the mouth, and
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna smack this Giant's team in the
Speaker 1: mouth early on Sunday morning. Give me the Green Bay
Speaker 1: Packers minus the eight. I guess ten on that game
Speaker 1: on guessing lines. I was surprised it was lower than
Speaker 1: That could be Davi's Webb, could be an injured Daniel Jones,
Speaker 1: it could be, it could be a lot of bad things.
Speaker 1: I was just trying to think of what obscure Giants
Speaker 1: quarterback can I name here? Every time you think of him? Me?
Speaker 1: If they got the fumble and Herman it's running it
Speaker 1: back the other way for Philadelphia. I wonder like if
Speaker 1: that was during the Twitter era, the ship that would
Speaker 1: have been talked after that, Oh boy, really you're handing
Speaker 1: off to Zanko. Oh you had to do was sit
Speaker 1: on it. Zanka playing for them with the dime. Jeff,
Speaker 1: what's your number? One? All right? I prefaced this when
Speaker 1: when I tell West every single week, this is a
Speaker 1: horrible bol card? How do how do your conversations go?
Speaker 1: Usually last about ninety minutes. We go through every game,
Speaker 1: and then then when I get the tax and I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh god, we're opposite already. For freaking that's usual. That's
Speaker 1: usually what happens at this point. And as soon as
Speaker 1: he said the rams, I was like, well, here we go,
Speaker 1: We're already on number one of being options. I always
Speaker 1: found that, like doing it with a partner was a
Speaker 1: challenging thing West as on the West, as long as
Speaker 1: you're not opposite him. On the pizza at the Delhi
Speaker 1: Point versus the pizza upstairs at the Bowling Alley, because
Speaker 1: the pizza upstairs at the Bowling Alley is a three
Speaker 1: touchdown favorite over the pizza at the Delhi. It's literally
Speaker 1: minus twenty one that much of a difference, Todd, that's light.
Speaker 1: It's probably like Ohio State versus San Jose State. It's
Speaker 1: probably like it's like that that Ohio State Rutgers game
Speaker 1: from last week, but with no fake punt. All right,
Speaker 1: So this card, I I'm going with things I don't
Speaker 1: really love this week, because I don't really love anything
Speaker 1: here that things like like I'm gonna start. I'll start
Speaker 1: off with a total after last week's a successful run
Speaker 1: into the total, and I'm actually gonna go to the
Speaker 1: game that Todd was on and I'm gonna go under
Speaker 1: the forty one. How in the hell are the Giants
Speaker 1: scoring in that game. I don't care if it's Jones,
Speaker 1: I don't care if it's Web, I don't care if
Speaker 1: it's mccaren who might get signed this week for them.
Speaker 1: Giants are gonna be unable to move the ball. And
Speaker 1: last week that game against against New England, it feels
Speaker 1: like Green Bay just didn't care for a big part
Speaker 1: of that game. And Zappy comes in, It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's this dude from Western Kentucky. Was never played professional
Speaker 1: by the way, he got a touchdown after the seconds, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It was. It was at least five seconds
Speaker 1: after hold on, hold on, I want to make this point.
Speaker 1: Everyone is now exaggerating that thing, Like Jeff just at
Speaker 1: five seconds. It was a good to three second. It
Speaker 1: felt at the time right that it was two and
Speaker 1: a half seconds, But then they showed the camera from
Speaker 1: behind Zap and it was like a second and a half. Still,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it wasn't. It wasn't like the play
Speaker 1: clock was well done, but the second and a half.
Speaker 1: So if you rounded off to the nearest two and
Speaker 1: a half seconds, it was two and a half seconds, regardless,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter it was you it was. But back
Speaker 1: to what I was saying, though, you know if you
Speaker 1: rounded off to the nearest eight and a half second
Speaker 1: skills yeah, no, no, it would be zero. So the
Speaker 1: so the only way that I see the Giants scoring
Speaker 1: in this game, and this could con see what we
Speaker 1: happened in Torpedo me is that s Quan has a
Speaker 1: big day because we saw Romandre Stevenson and Damian Harris
Speaker 1: run pretty well over Green Bay. But that happening was
Speaker 1: probably the best thing possible for green Bay's defense because
Speaker 1: in a game where the giants only weapon is Barkley,
Speaker 1: you're holding in on him. You shut him down, fild
Speaker 1: the Giants to seven. So I'll go under forty one
Speaker 1: on on green Bay and the Giants is pick number one, Okay, um,
Speaker 1: My pick number one is an exercise and me just
Speaker 1: shutting off my brain and deciding that I'm going to
Speaker 1: pound this angle until this angle gives me nothing, and
Speaker 1: that is I don't care that the Niners have gone
Speaker 1: up to a six and a half point favorite at Carolina.
Speaker 1: I am laying it. And I know that d v
Speaker 1: o A has the Colts is the worst team. Well
Speaker 1: you know what my personal d v o A has
Speaker 1: I have the Panthers is the worst team. And again
Speaker 1: this Matt Rules stat which we've talked about on this
Speaker 1: podcast now for weeks, I'll say it again now from
Speaker 1: the beginning of his tenure at Carolina, the Panthers are
Speaker 1: one in twenty six when the opponents score seventeen or
Speaker 1: more points. By the way, it's the last twenty four
Speaker 1: of them, they're oh and twenty four. Now this Niners
Speaker 1: defense is going up against Baker Mayfield. You talk about
Speaker 1: how the Giants are going to score, How are the
Speaker 1: Panthers scoring? How are they scoring on this Niners defense?
Speaker 1: And I just and and first of all, it's like
Speaker 1: the Niners aren't gonna get to seventeen. Oh, they'll get
Speaker 1: past seventeen. And as we know from what we just
Speaker 1: talked about, the Panthers have no shot here. Jimmy throws
Speaker 1: them interceptions. That's the only way there, the only way.
Speaker 1: But but Baker Mayfield is I'll say this again, like
Speaker 1: he's so painfully mediocre, and mediocre might be generous. That's nice,
Speaker 1: he gets you. Like the team total under Gilly, I
Speaker 1: didn't Niners minus six and a half. That's my first
Speaker 1: better day. I'm gonna do this every week until it fails.
Speaker 1: So just bet against Carolina blindly. Well, obviously that the
Speaker 1: trend is different than you know, giving them six and
Speaker 1: a half, But in this particular matchup, I don't see
Speaker 1: how they score enough to overcome that. They couldn't move
Speaker 1: the ball against Arizona, They're not moving the ball against
Speaker 1: San Francisco. I'm laying it, just shutting off my brains
Speaker 1: for we're saying Matt Rule should keep his phone on
Speaker 1: and if he sees Lincoln, Nebraska, Madison, Wisconsin on the caller,
Speaker 1: ID pick that up. Because he was so good at
Speaker 1: Temple and he was so good at Baylor, and we all,
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's a lovely guy, But how can I
Speaker 1: put this? This is the same working out, just not
Speaker 1: wor It wasn't all Joe Brady got to be the
Speaker 1: skategoat last year and they let him go and now
Speaker 1: he is working up in buff Below as the quarterbacks coach.
Speaker 1: But maybe this is and I thought Matt Ruble had
Speaker 1: a chance to succeed at the next level. I really
Speaker 1: thought he had a chance to succeed at Carolina. Has
Speaker 1: not happened. We're sneaking number two. Um, that New England
Speaker 1: line is down to three. New England line is I'm
Speaker 1: seeing three. It's mostly three. I see three three minif. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: if you give me the three, I'm taking the New
Speaker 1: England Patriots and I this is one of those words again.
Speaker 1: We'll go to the Malcolm Gladwell blink thing. Bill Belichick
Speaker 1: ain't losing to uh Dan Campbell. I can't explain to
Speaker 1: you why, but I think you all know why because
Speaker 1: we've watched football for entire lives. This isn't happening. Um,
Speaker 1: it's a Matt Patricia revenge game. By the way, let's
Speaker 1: point that out. It yes, the old man Patricia revenge spot.
Speaker 1: That's huge. I actually think that the h that the
Speaker 1: Patriots are going to grind this game against the Lions defense.
Speaker 1: The Lions follow the same script now for more than
Speaker 1: a year. They're gonna, You're gonna they're gonna trail by
Speaker 1: a lot of points and then they're going to play
Speaker 1: this catchup game where they look, hey, what that Lions
Speaker 1: offense is something else? They're gonna get this done. Um,
Speaker 1: Patriots are gonna outlast a here. And now that it's
Speaker 1: down to three, it triggers a play for me. If
Speaker 1: this were a little higher, maybe not, But now that
Speaker 1: it's down to three, I'm taking the Patriots and laying
Speaker 1: the points. The Patriots are at home here, um, and
Speaker 1: I actually think again, mac Jones is people are gonna
Speaker 1: be like, wow, they don't have mac Jones, that they
Speaker 1: don't even have Brian Hoyer, Um, mac Jones. We talked
Speaker 1: about the itch staff, the interceptions that should have happened.
Speaker 1: He was the king of this when he was in,
Speaker 1: so I'm actually a little more comfortable with him not
Speaker 1: being there. If you can believe that I'm laying the points,
Speaker 1: I'm taking the Patriots, And let me ask you a
Speaker 1: question before we continue. And Bailey's appy, plus being in
Speaker 1: that air raid, He's used to getting that ball out quickly,
Speaker 1: so he'll take those little short passes. What do you
Speaker 1: think of the total here? Because I'm kind of liking
Speaker 1: the under based on what you said. In turn, this
Speaker 1: seems like a grinder game with the Patriots. Everybody saw
Speaker 1: the Lions score forty five points last week, and we
Speaker 1: know their defense in't much to write home about, but
Speaker 1: seeing basically painted forty six, this seems like it seem underpot.
Speaker 1: I agree with you, and this is the one. Again,
Speaker 1: going back to guessing lines on Monday, which I do
Speaker 1: with Chrissy, I was this is the game I liked
Speaker 1: the most, the Patriots on this on this number. Now
Speaker 1: it's come my way, and so there you go. Parlay Detroit,
Speaker 1: don't Detroit is exactly what I think we all kind
Speaker 1: of realized we would be once everyone decided that they
Speaker 1: were the greatest team of all time. With a six
Speaker 1: and a half win total going into the season, the
Speaker 1: defense could apparently stop a team with you me, you me,
Speaker 1: wishing Evan West at this point, I wish we've got wished.
Speaker 1: By the way, where this should be the video should
Speaker 1: be the video clip Jason changing shirt with No. I
Speaker 1: wasn't changing my shirt. I just I you know, I
Speaker 1: eat so much salad and fruit and drink so much
Speaker 1: water from playing tennis, and I have to constantly go
Speaker 1: to the bathroom, so I was dying there. Sorry. In
Speaker 1: the prostate of a of a seventy five year old
Speaker 1: man because of the good diet, another one full of
Speaker 1: It's a good thing. His is right there and not
Speaker 1: like we are at the Circus Studio seven. Is that
Speaker 1: the biggest weakness of that studio? Yes? Distance between there
Speaker 1: in the bathroom. Yes, yes, I would just bring a bottle.
Speaker 1: You'd have to bring a ball. And plus that I
Speaker 1: have the bladder of a seventy five year old man,
Speaker 1: So you know when I gotta walk, especially like when
Speaker 1: you're doing a weekend show and Jeff knows this now,
Speaker 1: I did that last year. You gotta do like little
Speaker 1: quick cuts on a dime, Like Barry Sanders. You're running, Yes,
Speaker 1: you're playing. You're playing real life Frogger basically. Yet it's
Speaker 1: like Castanza trying to get the Frogger machine across the
Speaker 1: street in Seinfeld and he's like, I'm a goner. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm moving out of the way. All right, it's my pick, right,
Speaker 1: I'll lay the touchdown with Jacksonville against Houston is my
Speaker 1: next pick? I know this is do I know? This
Speaker 1: is a tough thing to ask a team that is
Speaker 1: not used to being a favorite to cover a big
Speaker 1: number the road, as we've talked about on the road,
Speaker 1: as we talked about on this show, Davis Mills at
Speaker 1: home not bad, actually quite good, Davis Mills outside of
Speaker 1: Houston absolutely horrendous. And Jacksonville, I look, I know they
Speaker 1: lost last week. I know they didn't cover for people
Speaker 1: that had the numbers last week. That Jaguard team is
Speaker 1: pretty good. And if Trevor Lawrence doesn't fumble four times
Speaker 1: in the game, which I'm gonna say not sustainable, we're
Speaker 1: we're going to say it's the weather. Yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say that was the weather more than anything. And look,
Speaker 1: Philadelphia is really damn good. That defense is really good
Speaker 1: as well. And now, but you're also you're also playing,
Speaker 1: to me, the worst team in the NFL in Houston.
Speaker 1: Sure they play hard, but if Jacksonville is as good
Speaker 1: as I think they are, they should win this game
Speaker 1: by multiple touchdowns at home. So all a seven with
Speaker 1: Jacksonville against the Texans. Houston was my Houston was my
Speaker 1: fourth pick, Houston plus seven because I think they hang
Speaker 1: around with the Jags, but I'm not gonna take them.
Speaker 1: My second pick is gonna be the Teddy two Gloves.
Speaker 1: Teddy two Gloves he's really not that bad. We got
Speaker 1: the Teddy two gloves. Teddy two Gloves, he's gonna kick
Speaker 1: the Jets as oky. So I'm going with the Miami
Speaker 1: Dolphins minus the three because I've got Teddy two Gloves
Speaker 1: for me and I think that the Miami Dolphins are
Speaker 1: a much better team and the New York Jets. I
Speaker 1: don't think the quarterback is such a huge down grade.
Speaker 1: I'd liked Teddy two gloves in the past, and now
Speaker 1: with all those weapons, I think what made two of
Speaker 1: look so good early in the season is those delicious
Speaker 1: weapons that he has. And um, are you guys hearing
Speaker 1: that little back the the the uh? I really think
Speaker 1: that the reason Miami's playing so well as they have
Speaker 1: those great weapons now on the offense and they still
Speaker 1: got a pretty solid defense. I think it's a great
Speaker 1: time to bet against the Jets after they won the
Speaker 1: most fraudulent victory here in Yinsberg. I don't know what
Speaker 1: and hap we lost it at Jets. I was telling
Speaker 1: my mom's right down there, there's no where we can
Speaker 1: lose to The Jets were dot We just had a
Speaker 1: giant mill. We had a great time. We came down
Speaker 1: here to watch a store game. Look, it's not called
Speaker 1: Heinz Field anymore. I don't know what they're doing down air.
Speaker 1: We went to the casino beforehand. We walked over to
Speaker 1: the store game. We're gonna go to a paying game
Speaker 1: later this week. We can't pat the Jets. What's wrong
Speaker 1: with this team anyways? Jets are are are high on
Speaker 1: themselves after beating a bad Pittsburgh Stiller team. I don't
Speaker 1: believe in it. I like my Teddy two gloves. He's
Speaker 1: gonna go in to New York jet Land and put
Speaker 1: the stink on him. Miami minus three, you can put
Speaker 1: the stank on him. I throw the challenge flag on
Speaker 1: the line threes. Oh, challenge flag on the line over
Speaker 1: the place. Three. Okay, it's it's mainly three, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do like a soccer line three point to five
Speaker 1: for Todd. So you push the half on the three
Speaker 1: and you lose on half on the three and Gilly
Speaker 1: gets it. Gilly gets to do this my minus three
Speaker 1: with New England, and he does that all the time,
Speaker 1: do it all to three. Three. He didn't let me finish.
Speaker 1: I was gonna be on the side, but then he
Speaker 1: decided to go on attack Um. By the way, that
Speaker 1: the Teddy two gloves He's really not that bad would
Speaker 1: be such a great two gloves version of the Miami
Speaker 1: Dolphins song, way better than the squash Buckler one of
Speaker 1: two weeks ago. Swashbuckler didn't go over. My songs were
Speaker 1: bad because I wasn't prepared, But this week I was
Speaker 1: prepared with myself, so I just loved it. Teddy too.
Speaker 1: By the way, the New York Jetropolitans eighties six teams
Speaker 1: have faced a double digit fourth quarter deficit in the
Speaker 1: first four games of the season. Only two have gone
Speaker 1: five hundred in those four games, the eighty Miami Dolphins
Speaker 1: and these New York Jets too, who did it against
Speaker 1: Cleveland and the and the and the Steelers, the Steelers,
Speaker 1: both of them. When he's saying Teddy two gloves not
Speaker 1: that bad, he he is Teddy Covers in his own
Speaker 1: right forty two and twenty one. As a start of
Speaker 1: twenty four and six on the Road, we apologized to
Speaker 1: Teddy Savanski, Teddy Cover Yes, the original Teddy Covers Yes,
Speaker 1: and his son Isaiah Um. We apologize to Boho um.
Speaker 1: Teddy used to Teddy used to text me, uh should
Speaker 1: say Teddy used to text me videos of his son
Speaker 1: Isaiah playing basketball, and you would write me and say,
Speaker 1: he's really not that good. So I like Teddy Covers
Speaker 1: so much. He's like me, a thin guy as opposed
Speaker 1: to boxes here. So you're like, you're a fattest now
Speaker 1: is what you are? Hate the fastest? Alright? Um wait,
Speaker 1: so who's up top? It's West, that's right. I wasn't
Speaker 1: talking about you. I was talking about the other two. No, no,
Speaker 1: I understand Todd. We're good, We're good. My second play
Speaker 1: is going to be you're going to a primetime game
Speaker 1: on Sunday night. The you might need to ruin on this.
Speaker 1: It's mostly three with juice, but there's no three and
Speaker 1: a halves out there yet. And that is the Baltimore
Speaker 1: Ravens minus three on Sunday Night over the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 1: Baltimore is two and two, and I think they should
Speaker 1: be four. Now. If you look at the Miami game
Speaker 1: they had when probability blew the lead, they were up
Speaker 1: thirty four teen. They were really banged up in the
Speaker 1: secondary and it showed. They were up twenty to three
Speaker 1: last week against the Buffalo Bills, the best team in
Speaker 1: the NFL. I think they ended up holding them like
Speaker 1: three d twenty five yards or something like that. So
Speaker 1: arguably their best defensive performance of the season. Baltimore was
Speaker 1: against the best team in the league who I still
Speaker 1: have power raided Number one, the Buffalo Bills. They've had
Speaker 1: offensive line injuries, but Ronnie Stanley has practice I believe,
Speaker 1: like five straight practices in a row, and when he
Speaker 1: when he went out last year, that's when Baltimore I think,
Speaker 1: really went in the tank and you really saw it offensively.
Speaker 1: Plus the injuries into the secondary, which is starting to
Speaker 1: get a little bit healthier. I think a couple of
Speaker 1: guys Peters didn't practice yesterday on Wednesday, but I think
Speaker 1: a lot of that is just precautionary with rest and whatnot.
Speaker 1: So you know, Baltimore's defense, if you look it's not good.
Speaker 1: If you look at the raw numbers, they rate at
Speaker 1: the bottom because of what obviously Miami put up like
Speaker 1: ten thousand yards against them, basically in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: But you know, Baltimore is kind of middle of the
Speaker 1: road in terms of defense. I think they're like a
Speaker 1: sixteen and d v O A, So there may be
Speaker 1: not as bad as they look. But offensively number one
Speaker 1: and offensive d v O A Number one and pass
Speaker 1: offensive d v O A middle of the pack rushing.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of that is because they didn't
Speaker 1: have Dobbins for the first couple of games. They're still
Speaker 1: waiting on Gus Edwards to be activated from the Populist.
Speaker 1: But if you look at Baltimore, I think that this
Speaker 1: is a little bit of value here only laying three
Speaker 1: at m n T Bank Stadium. If Baltimore wins those
Speaker 1: two games, what do they lay in six here? Probably
Speaker 1: against the Cincinnati Bengals. And this is not necessarily just
Speaker 1: a backing of Baltimore. It's also a little bit of
Speaker 1: fate of Cincinnati because if you watch last week and
Speaker 1: Jeff and I were both on the Bengals. We use
Speaker 1: that in our entries as well. And you know Thursday night.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, you don't always do the Thursday nights
Speaker 1: on your entries, but I thought that that spot was
Speaker 1: so good for Cincinnati. You had a Miami team that
Speaker 1: had to come back against Buffalo. First, they beat New England,
Speaker 1: which is still a division rivalry. I know, this isn't
Speaker 1: vintage Patriots. Then you had that great comeback at Baltimore.
Speaker 1: Then you were on the field for ninety plays your defense,
Speaker 1: and you still have somehow, some way even up giving
Speaker 1: almost five yards up to Buffalo get a win over
Speaker 1: the Bill. So you're three and oh and then it's
Speaker 1: a short week and you lose your quarterback on top
Speaker 1: of that to a tag of Baloa. And yet Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: who we had, which was in a really good spot,
Speaker 1: they needed a pick with like a few minutes left
Speaker 1: to go to hold off a backup quarterback. And I
Speaker 1: know Teddy Bridgewater, as Todd said, not that bad, gloves
Speaker 1: really not that bad. But they still needed an interception
Speaker 1: to hold him off. In Cincinnati. That was such an
Speaker 1: unimpressive win, even though it ended up being double digits.
Speaker 1: They can't run the ball at all. And Zach Taylor,
Speaker 1: I think is bound and determined to try to run
Speaker 1: this ball. The first couple of weeks, you know, it
Speaker 1: was you know, first down pass rate was really high.
Speaker 1: It wasn't running the ball on first down. Then you
Speaker 1: watch the Miami game last Thursday night, get a first down,
Speaker 1: burrow passes for a first down, run the ball or
Speaker 1: on the ball, run the ball. Thirty carries for sixty
Speaker 1: seven yards for Cincinnati last week, and I think if
Speaker 1: they do that, they're gonna get behind, and they're gonna
Speaker 1: get behind very quickly. They still have offensive line issues
Speaker 1: as well, so they've been protecting a little bit better,
Speaker 1: I think because they're not having burrowed so much out
Speaker 1: of the shotguns. So they're at least trying to run
Speaker 1: the ball, but they're just not able to do it.
Speaker 1: This is a low number for Baltimore. I'm surprised we're
Speaker 1: only laying three here. I think it's gonna be three
Speaker 1: and a half or four by the weekend. We we
Speaker 1: are giving you the three. That's what it is. Consense
Speaker 1: is right now. And I agree with you also in
Speaker 1: the sense, like Baltimore now, with the muscle memory of
Speaker 1: having given up these leads like they are, they can't
Speaker 1: possibly this happen again, right And and also the fact
Speaker 1: that when whenever that happens, when you get like the
Speaker 1: media heard that really and and I'm not saying you're
Speaker 1: wrong to say, hey, they should have kicked the field
Speaker 1: goal there, there's certainly a debate to be had about that.
Speaker 1: But whenever you get these like coaches, especially super Bowl
Speaker 1: winning coaches, by the way, on the studio shows on
Speaker 1: this network. It's that's this damn analytics, you know, and
Speaker 1: that's what they always go to. It was the was
Speaker 1: the one that did it over the weekend, and he
Speaker 1: wasn't certainly alone, but he was the one that I saw,
Speaker 1: So that comes to mind immediately. But it's like, I
Speaker 1: I can't stand it. I can't face palm is perfect,
Speaker 1: we got the audio. I just I can't stand. You know,
Speaker 1: if you're going to be an analyst for one of
Speaker 1: these major networks, you know, you don't have to agree
Speaker 1: with the decision, but unders but understand, but understand why.
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people, you know, more
Speaker 1: people getting into this betting content space could also I
Speaker 1: think keep that advice. The one other thing that I
Speaker 1: want to I want to piggyback real quick with with
Speaker 1: Les is for the Bengals, this will sound really screwed
Speaker 1: up to people, but then making the Super Bowl and
Speaker 1: losing might have been the worst thing that happened to
Speaker 1: them with their coaching staff because now they are stuck
Speaker 1: with Taylor and Zach Taylor. You said this in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: Every single week he looked bewildered on the side that
Speaker 1: that was your word, you will be. But he so
Speaker 1: clearly is in over his head right now because the
Speaker 1: offensive play calling is terrible. They can't run the ball
Speaker 1: like West said, and they have a really good running
Speaker 1: back in Mixing. And you have three wide receivers that
Speaker 1: if you put Boyd, you put Higgins on a different team,
Speaker 1: those guys very easily could be number one receivers elsewhere.
Speaker 1: And you basically have turned Jamaar Chase into a number
Speaker 1: two wide receiver through the first four weeks. So Taylor,
Speaker 1: Taylor has got to figure himself out because if he
Speaker 1: if he continues this run and Cincinnati underachieves, the Bengal
Speaker 1: should be looking for another coach next year. I threw this,
Speaker 1: but the problem is that franchise never kept kept Marvin
Speaker 1: Lewis years he really did. I believe my ground doesn't
Speaker 1: exactly like to spend money. Yes, if you don't know
Speaker 1: there in Cincinnat the I said this on a numbers game,
Speaker 1: but we haven't notother chance to say it on this
Speaker 1: on the podcast here, But I this is sort of
Speaker 1: just macro look back at last year's postseason. I think
Speaker 1: we're going to look back at the Rams beating the
Speaker 1: Bengals in the Super Bowl. Not the outcome of that game,
Speaker 1: which is the fact that those two teams met in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I've started to think it's going to
Speaker 1: be this historical hiccup where we just realized the Bengals
Speaker 1: had a rabbit's foot up there. But you know, sack
Speaker 1: nine times? Why the Titans somehow they won that game?
Speaker 1: That really good for it? They never had to play
Speaker 1: you know, um that excuse me. The Rams never ended
Speaker 1: up having to play the Chiefs or the Bills, so
Speaker 1: they got that free past. They played at home, for
Speaker 1: God's sakes, in the Super Bowl, right, And I just wonder,
Speaker 1: like again, because the power rank you alluded to this earlier,
Speaker 1: it's the Bills, It's the Chiefs, and I guess the
Speaker 1: Eagles and whatever order top three teams this year after that,
Speaker 1: it's kind of who who do you think? But I
Speaker 1: do wonder if we look back at last year's postseason
Speaker 1: and just think, like, yeah, how did that happen? Look,
Speaker 1: we get out liars in professional sports every once in
Speaker 1: a while. The one I go back to Kansas City
Speaker 1: Royals were the best team in baseball for for for
Speaker 1: for about two hundred and twenty five games and the
Speaker 1: twenty thirty years before that, they were one of the
Speaker 1: worst franchises in baseball, and lo and behold, they're the
Speaker 1: worst franchise in baseball right now. They figured out before
Speaker 1: anybody that if you didn't have the bank roll or
Speaker 1: the pay what they call it payroll, play it from
Speaker 1: the back forward. So they figured out the seventh, eighth,
Speaker 1: ninth inning thing, who was it? Horrera, Hollands and Davis
Speaker 1: and Wade Davis right, and they got to the they
Speaker 1: got they got mad bummed in and then they beat you.
Speaker 1: And then in a series the Mets led all five
Speaker 1: games at one. The Alex Gordon home run in the
Speaker 1: World Series Game one. Who was that off of familiar,
Speaker 1: familiar with the quick pitch? Yeah, familiar, Troy Hawkins fault.
Speaker 1: I went ballistic. I had the Royals that night. Oh
Speaker 1: we lost Todd, No, we got Todd, we do I
Speaker 1: don't hear him? Can you hear me? Or now we can? Okay,
Speaker 1: enough with the baseball. Then the great example of this
Speaker 1: that you're driving me crazy, it's a Kansas City bro
Speaker 1: the the the example is the Arizona Cardinals being against
Speaker 1: the Steelers in the Super Bowl time, which was a
Speaker 1: team that should never have made it and probably almost
Speaker 1: could have won the game. Right, But I'm talking about
Speaker 1: both teams though. In the case of the Rams of
Speaker 1: the Bengals, Yeah, I mean I think that's that's gonna
Speaker 1: I mean it might be completely wrong. Maybe the Rams
Speaker 1: are lollygagging through the season as I thought they would.
Speaker 1: I agree with you on that. Um, your final one, Okay,
Speaker 1: so we get one more best bet and then a teaser. Correct,
Speaker 1: that's correct. Okay, I'm gonna give a very ugly best
Speaker 1: bet here, and we are going to go too many favorites,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna mix in an underdog. It's not exactly
Speaker 1: a big underdog. I think it has dropped. It's still
Speaker 1: majority to the Washington Command plus two against the Tennessee Titans,
Speaker 1: that our first Commander's pick of the year might be.
Speaker 1: It might be my last one if they don't get home,
Speaker 1: if they don't get home for me, because I had
Speaker 1: him last week. And look, I don't necessarily think they
Speaker 1: deserve to cover. But I think that that score was deceived,
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you why. I momentarily, but starting with Tennessee, look,
Speaker 1: Mike Rabel back against the wall against the Raiders, home underdog,
Speaker 1: they go ahead and get the win. They win in Indianapolis,
Speaker 1: and they've kind of owned the Colts of late too.
Speaker 1: And if you look at what they did last week, uh,
Speaker 1: the the the new offensive coordinator down there in Tennessee.
Speaker 1: Actually this is his second year, Todd downing good script
Speaker 1: early on. You know, they really do well. I think
Speaker 1: there was a weird stat I saw it on Twitter.
Speaker 1: Somebody said that they were number one and e p
Speaker 1: a per play in the first quarter and then they
Speaker 1: take a nose dive. And you really saw that last
Speaker 1: week against the Indianapolis Colts. They got out twenty four
Speaker 1: to ten. If you watch that game, at least on turnovers, Yes, absolutely,
Speaker 1: because Colts were minus three by the way in the
Speaker 1: turnover margins two lost bumbles and then Ryan in through
Speaker 1: a pick. But in the second half, Tennessee did absolutely nothing.
Speaker 1: They ended up with two d forty three yards only
Speaker 1: four point seven per play, Colts at three sixty five
Speaker 1: five point a to play, Like, the Colts were clearly
Speaker 1: the better team in the second half and just kept
Speaker 1: shooting themselves in the foot. And then what we talked
Speaker 1: about earlier in the megapod with the Frank right decision
Speaker 1: to go ahead and kick a field goal there. You
Speaker 1: know too, I know your fourth and long, but still
Speaker 1: to seventeen, that three is gonna do nothing for you.
Speaker 1: So you look Tennessee. I just think that they're a
Speaker 1: little bit overrated their defense. They're one of the bottom
Speaker 1: of the barrel defenses. It may not show statistically, but
Speaker 1: their thirty offen expected points added per play defensively, you look,
Speaker 1: they don't have a pass rush either. Now that Landry
Speaker 1: has been heard, Bud debris really hasn't given them there
Speaker 1: very much this year. So they're not a team that
Speaker 1: puts a lot of pressure on the quarterback. And that's
Speaker 1: probably good for Washington, who's dealing with some offensive line issues.
Speaker 1: Even though they only gave up two sacks to Dallas,
Speaker 1: I still Carson Wentz got hit like about ten or
Speaker 1: eleven times. He had a couple of intentional groundings. To
Speaker 1: your point, I give him a bit of a pass
Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, he's getting crushed, he is, and the
Speaker 1: offensive line has been poor. But I think against this
Speaker 1: Tennessee team that doesn't get a lot of pressure, this
Speaker 1: may help them a little bit too. And uh, you know,
Speaker 1: you look at Washington and also Tennessee losing the kid
Speaker 1: from Arkansas Burke's uh, the wide receiver. I just don't
Speaker 1: think that they have any real game breakers to take
Speaker 1: advantage of the Washington secondary. So that's what concerns me
Speaker 1: a little bit. On the Washington side, keep in mind,
Speaker 1: this team did beat Jacksonville in Week one. Who I
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of people that say they should
Speaker 1: be the favorite right now in the a f C South.
Speaker 1: They've certainly looked the best of any of the teams
Speaker 1: in that division through four weeks. Washington was laying three.
Speaker 1: I know they had to come from behind in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, but they did get the win and the
Speaker 1: cover over Jacksonville. One thing that's hurting Washington they're giving
Speaker 1: up too many big plays in terms of the secondary.
Speaker 1: I think they've given up twelve plays at thirty yards
Speaker 1: or more. But they should have had a couple of
Speaker 1: picks last week against Cooper Rush and nullified by penalty
Speaker 1: show yeah exactly, and that was to ten game, but
Speaker 1: that didn't look like to ten game. Washington actually slightly
Speaker 1: outyarded him. It was a pretty even game. It's only
Speaker 1: a five point game in the fourth quarter. Despite the
Speaker 1: fact that the Commanders had you know, a hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty or thirty whatever yards and penalties they ended up with.
Speaker 1: But what I really like about this team is there
Speaker 1: very good against the run. They're one of the best
Speaker 1: rush defenses in the league. You know, the secondary they've
Speaker 1: given up too many plays, but six and rush defense
Speaker 1: dv o A. If you look the last two weeks, Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: you would say one of the best running teams in
Speaker 1: the league, right, And I know Philadelphia handed them there.
Speaker 1: You know what's basically it was twenty four enough until
Speaker 1: Washington got a score in the second half. Thirty carries
Speaker 1: for seventy two yards for the Philadelphia Eagles against the
Speaker 1: Washington Commanders. Dallas Cowboys, you know, top at least third
Speaker 1: in the league in rushing twenty nine carries for sixty
Speaker 1: two yards. So you know, this is a team that
Speaker 1: I think can keep the Henry Knave at bay. And
Speaker 1: I don't think that Tennessee has the you know, the
Speaker 1: offense really to go ahead and get big plays down
Speaker 1: the field. Necessarily. They don't have those game breaking wide
Speaker 1: receivers that these other teams have had. So we've seen
Speaker 1: it drop a little bit. It was two and a
Speaker 1: half I was hoping we would see three. We are
Speaker 1: not going to probably get a three on this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is and and this is already in a in
Speaker 1: a couple of teasers for me as well. But I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and play it out right. The Washington
Speaker 1: Commanders plus two Yes, one vote for the Commodes and
Speaker 1: probably going to be the only one. I'm guessing, DoD
Speaker 1: your final best bet, my final pick. I'm going up, Donner.
Speaker 1: You know I'm starting off here. I'm driving up to Cleveland.
Speaker 1: I'm taking the brownies. I'm taking the brownies. You have
Speaker 1: to Yeah, got that doll? How you're getting a hook
Speaker 1: with that? Oh okay, then it's even better. Give me
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Brownies plus two and a half at home
Speaker 1: against the l A. Chargers. Um, I don't like this
Speaker 1: Charger team. It stinks. There's something that stinks about this team.
Speaker 1: I don't like it. There's I know there's a lot
Speaker 1: of talent, but maybe because they don't have the wide
Speaker 1: receiver you know Alan anymore. I don't know what it
Speaker 1: is about this team. They've got some talent, they can
Speaker 1: move the football. They're still the Chargers and they still
Speaker 1: love to stink it up and mess things up. They
Speaker 1: almost lost that game last week after they were up
Speaker 1: a thousand points, Survivor plays and it just I was like,
Speaker 1: of course, this is going to be a sweat. Of course,
Speaker 1: it was ridiculous. You can if you're a good team,
Speaker 1: you do not allow Davis Mills, even Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: at home and come back and do what he did
Speaker 1: last week. I don't like this charge team. Something smells
Speaker 1: about this team now. On the other conversely, the Browns.
Speaker 1: I'm not in love with the Browns. I hate their defense.
Speaker 1: I really don't like their defense at all. But I
Speaker 1: do like the fact they can run the football. I
Speaker 1: believe last year they played this same team in l A.
Speaker 1: And all I can remember is chub And and Hunt
Speaker 1: running up and down the sidelines for seventy five yard
Speaker 1: runs every ten minutes, if that, If I remember correctly,
Speaker 1: I think they won like forty eight to thirty seven
Speaker 1: or something. This was some ridiculous score. I think the
Speaker 1: Browns are going to run the football at home against
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Chargers. Maybe it'll be a bit nippy
Speaker 1: in Cleveland. You know, this Charger team doesn't like playing
Speaker 1: in you know, uh, you know, scary weather or anything
Speaker 1: like that. You know, I just don't like this Charger team.
Speaker 1: And to be laying points on the road against the
Speaker 1: legitimate football team. I mean, I'm not saying the Browns
Speaker 1: are killers. They're not killers, but they're a legitimate team
Speaker 1: and they can run the football. You're giving me the
Speaker 1: two and a half. I'm taking it. God, I know
Speaker 1: that you like to do the Miami Dolphins song here
Speaker 1: on the megafod pod. Do you ever do the San
Speaker 1: Diego Superchargers. We've discussed, We've tried it. The problem is
Speaker 1: it's much too difficult to pull off. It's a very
Speaker 1: difficult what a great question. We have tried that, because
Speaker 1: that is the jam. That's all. I was going to
Speaker 1: actually do the Steeler song, the Pennsylvania Polka, and I
Speaker 1: will say this. I will say this west about Todd
Speaker 1: didn't really do the prep work necessary once he didn't
Speaker 1: get the Supercharger song right. He never really went back
Speaker 1: to the well and tried to get it right. So
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of a weak performance on his part.
Speaker 1: All taken out there, He'll take the out Jeffrey, Oh God,
Speaker 1: this one could be done. This one could be done
Speaker 1: very quickly. We all agree this is a harder week.
Speaker 1: It feels like this, This one feels really hard. This
Speaker 1: might be a week where we go with four of
Speaker 1: West's picks for the contest. Sorry, West, just throwing that out, Okay,
Speaker 1: right right now, um boy, I'm taking the fourteen with
Speaker 1: the Steelers on the road, are gonna I just We're
Speaker 1: going all the way up. That teams like a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl champion. He just mixed. He's just mixing some Baltimore
Speaker 1: accent in there as well. But the oostwork, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just it's just one of those where
Speaker 1: Buffalo plays Kansas City next week and the Steelers are
Speaker 1: starting a rookie quarterback at his first start. They just
Speaker 1: blew a double digit lead it home to the Jets
Speaker 1: and made Zach Wilson look awesome in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: But I'm just for whatever reason that and it has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with it, because Pittsburgh, even though they are,
Speaker 1: we're not good. Even though they're in the playoffs. Last year,
Speaker 1: they won last year in Buffalo. And I know it
Speaker 1: was a flukey block punt. There was a lot of
Speaker 1: cookie things that happened in that game. But you're gonna
Speaker 1: give me two full touchdowns with Buffalo, having Kansas City
Speaker 1: looming the next week. A little look ahead, A little
Speaker 1: look ahead spot there for the Bills. This could this
Speaker 1: could be over in the first quarter. I could be
Speaker 1: down twenty four to nothing in the first quarter, and
Speaker 1: I could be dead, Zoe, I realized that. But I'll
Speaker 1: think two full touchdowns with Pittsburgh. Okay, so we we
Speaker 1: have a time crunch here, we have a hard outcoming
Speaker 1: out someone in the interest of time, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: tell you my third pick with that much explanation, it's
Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks taking in the five and a half. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't think New Orleans should be favored by that
Speaker 1: much over maybe anyone. And uh, if you ever want
Speaker 1: a fun little parlor game to play with your friends,
Speaker 1: do a blind resume of Geno Smith and Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: and wow and wow, you're friends. It's amazing how good
Speaker 1: of a year he's having. And maybe maybe we all Oh,
Speaker 1: I'll raise my hand Pete Carroll a bit of an apology.
Speaker 1: Who when Jimmy g was floated or any other quarterback
Speaker 1: this off Season's like, no, I'm good with I'm going
Speaker 1: with Gane and Drew Lock. So far so good. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: their defense gave up a grip of points of the lines,
Speaker 1: but everyone seems to I'll take the five and a half.
Speaker 1: I'll live with that as my third pick teaser of
Speaker 1: the week two legger six point Wes. Okay, by the way,
Speaker 1: I did mention Commanders my third best bet. I have
Speaker 1: used them in teasers. I won't use them as in
Speaker 1: this one, even though I do have this teased with
Speaker 1: the favorite downwards Tampa Bay Buccaneers minus two and a
Speaker 1: half with Todd wishnevs. Cleveland Browns up to eight and
Speaker 1: a half against the Los Angeles Chargers. God, I'm assuming
Speaker 1: Cleveland's one of your legs. We'll see. I wanted to
Speaker 1: do the Tampa Bay too, but I see it as
Speaker 1: nine every word. How are we getting it too? I
Speaker 1: got eight and a half almost every book in Vegas
Speaker 1: right now, then, so then I want to do that too.
Speaker 1: Then I want to take the Bucks, but that was
Speaker 1: my one of my legs, Bucks minus two and a half,
Speaker 1: and I want to and wait, just so I get
Speaker 1: this for you, Wes. You have Bucks minus two and
Speaker 1: f and who's your other one? Cleveland plus eight and
Speaker 1: half Cleveland plus eight and a half. Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do Bucks minus two and a half and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take the Packers Green Bay Pickers minus one and a half. Uh,
Speaker 1: in the frozen tundra of England, you got six and
Speaker 1: a half points of the packers. Oh, minus two, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: minus two, Packers minus two. And well, because of the
Speaker 1: exchange rate the pound and the dollar, that's the difference. Okay,
Speaker 1: packers too, minus two and the Bucks minus two and
Speaker 1: a half. Parlay all right? In the money line parlay
Speaker 1: version of of a teaser this week, you're gonna do mine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the packers down to two and I
Speaker 1: will take that. Wasn't how I was. I was doing
Speaker 1: the Vikings. I'll take down. Honestly. It was like for me,
Speaker 1: it was I could do the Packers, I could do
Speaker 1: the Vikings, I could do the Niners, I could do
Speaker 1: the Browns. Ultimately, I'll just say packers and Vikings, and
Speaker 1: God help me, what could possibly go wrong there? Um?
Speaker 1: So that's mine, packers, vikings on mine. I can think
Speaker 1: of what could happen to you? I could too, Mr
Speaker 1: Curtis Cousin, Curtis Curtis Cousin, Curtis you alright? Does that
Speaker 1: mean we're down to our final two questions? Oh survivors
Speaker 1: A West, are you a survivor? I am not, thank you,
Speaker 1: Jason uh I. There are so many survivor options this week,
Speaker 1: which is a great departure from weeks three and four,
Speaker 1: where Survivor was just complete mayhem and just real quick um.
Speaker 1: Of the biggest favorites New Orleans. I don't trust them,
Speaker 1: so they're not gonna be one. Kansas City, better opportunities later,
Speaker 1: They're not gonna be mine. Buffalo. There's a Thanksgiving consideration
Speaker 1: in Circus survivors, so they're not gonna be one. So
Speaker 1: it comes down to by the way, I have multiple entries,
Speaker 1: This is different from those who just have one. But
Speaker 1: because I have multiple entries, it will be some combination
Speaker 1: of well, first of all, Green basa consideration, but I
Speaker 1: think I need Green Bay more next week. Next week
Speaker 1: it gets a little tighter and they host the Jets
Speaker 1: next week as opposed to the Giants in London, so
Speaker 1: I may have to hold off on Green Bay. So
Speaker 1: it's going to be I've narrowed it down to some
Speaker 1: combination of Minnesota, Tampa Bay, Jacksonville, and San Francisco. I
Speaker 1: was gonna say Jacksonville, I think could be popular because
Speaker 1: this might be one of the better weeks to usest
Speaker 1: it is the last time they will be this big
Speaker 1: of a favorite. That's exactly why Jacksonville will at least
Speaker 1: be on one of mine for sure survivor final two questions.
Speaker 1: Which of the big favorites, and I like I named
Speaker 1: a lot of them right there, is most likely to
Speaker 1: lose out right? We have a lot of candidates. Packers
Speaker 1: to lose outright as eight point favorites in London against
Speaker 1: the Giants, Bills fourteen point favorites. It's at the biggest
Speaker 1: spread of the year so far. I think it is
Speaker 1: hosting the Pittsburgh Steelers uh the Minnesota Vikings seven at
Speaker 1: a half point favorites at home against the Chicago Bears,
Speaker 1: first time mentioned on the show today, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Speaker 1: nine point favorites at home against Atlanta. Jacksonville seven point
Speaker 1: favorites at home against Houston. San Francisco six and a
Speaker 1: half point favorites on the road against Carolina in the
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs seven point favorites at home against the
Speaker 1: Raiders West. The most likely of those to lose outright. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And this was a team that I was extolling, as
Speaker 1: was Matt Brown on this very network also summer. The
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings are concerning to me right now. I know
Speaker 1: that there are three and one, but this offense has
Speaker 1: not been as dynamic as I thought it was gonna be.
Speaker 1: With Kevin O'Connell and West Phillips coming in from that
Speaker 1: mcveightree with the l a rams uh and look, the
Speaker 1: Bears are the Bears are no great shakes, but the
Speaker 1: offensive line, if you really look at the numbers, has
Speaker 1: actually been It's not great, but it's been better. We
Speaker 1: thought it was gonna be a total turnstyle disaster up front,
Speaker 1: but it's really been justin fields that you know, has
Speaker 1: been anticipating pressure before it comes. It's really him that's
Speaker 1: kind of been playing a little bit shaky, but I
Speaker 1: know that it's now they're laying the hook. So it's
Speaker 1: gotten a little bit of support. But I'm I big
Speaker 1: Minnesota's on upset alert. Yeah, they keep shooting themselves in
Speaker 1: the foot with penalties. Such a frustrating team to watch. God, well,
Speaker 1: I'm I have the same thing written down the Bears
Speaker 1: to be many what is the key component in your
Speaker 1: doggage getting to the winning area. It's turnover, As folks,
Speaker 1: who who could you see throwing a pick six and
Speaker 1: also getting strip, sack and fumble in a ballgame? I
Speaker 1: believe it's a guy named Curtie Ice, Kurt Cousins. Baby.
Speaker 1: I think the Bears could pull the stunner in Minnesota.
Speaker 1: I don't This Minnesota team is it's this is blah
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. And you know what, you turnovers? You've
Speaker 1: got tremendous turnover variance with a guy like Kurt Cousins
Speaker 1: to two things. One, the NFL network has rolled out
Speaker 1: Babe Loffenberg is one of their analysts, man by Indiana.
Speaker 1: Who's your by the way, former preseason Washington Redskin great
Speaker 1: Babe Loffenburg, Um Redskin ever heard that? Oh man, he won?
Speaker 1: He won an amazing preseason game and eighty three? Um.
Speaker 1: And the other thing is the sentence that you just unleashed.
Speaker 1: What is the what is one of the keys for
Speaker 1: doggage to get into the winning area? That sentence Jeff
Speaker 1: Big favorite most leg lose that right to make it
Speaker 1: three for three Minnesota to lose to Chicago. It is
Speaker 1: four for four Minnesota again, So Minnesota is gonna be
Speaker 1: up like thirty eight to ten going into the fourth quarter. God,
Speaker 1: they are so shaky, but it's almost like for survivor,
Speaker 1: I almost want to get rid of them as quickly
Speaker 1: as possible. Don't do it. I'll tell you why you
Speaker 1: can't do it, because if you do it and they lose,
Speaker 1: you're gonna go I actually trusted Kirk Cousins, and you're
Speaker 1: gonna hate yourself for the rest of year. I've used
Speaker 1: them on one. I've used them on one already, but
Speaker 1: I do have them available in two others, so it's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's some of these teams though, then
Speaker 1: they're the great example. Once you use them and you
Speaker 1: survive with them, you're like, oh, thank god, I don't
Speaker 1: have to again. Yeah. Alright, then final question. We live
Speaker 1: in a Bizaro world and you have to bet all
Speaker 1: fifteen of the sixteen not all games but one pass.
Speaker 1: But you have to bet fifteen on the side one
Speaker 1: that you want absolutely no part of West that game
Speaker 1: would be Yeah. And and actually there's a there's a
Speaker 1: couple of candidates. I won't use Tonight's because obviously there'll
Speaker 1: be people listening this on Friday and through the weekend.
Speaker 1: But for me, it's the Miami Dolphins and the New
Speaker 1: York Jets, and and I thought I was gonna be
Speaker 1: on the Dolphins. Look, I know Teddy Bridgewater, as Todd said,
Speaker 1: he's not that bad and he's actually been very good.
Speaker 1: But this Miami team does have some injuries. I I
Speaker 1: think if you look at the end of the game,
Speaker 1: and that's why I was so harsh against the Bengals
Speaker 1: and taking Baltimore this week, you had both corners out
Speaker 1: at the end of the game for Miami and Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: Was still life and death with this team because Xavian
Speaker 1: Howard still with the growing injury. Of course, we know
Speaker 1: two is out, Cedric Wilson, whether he is going to
Speaker 1: go the Jets. I do believe, as Todd said, that
Speaker 1: was a fraudulent win against Pittsburgh. You know, Kenny Pickett
Speaker 1: completed all thirteen passes. It's just three of the of
Speaker 1: the third team were to the other team, So you
Speaker 1: know that was just kind of a random frowned upon?
Speaker 1: Is that frowned upon? Steinfeld? You is that frowned upon?
Speaker 1: Because if somebody had told me that having sex with
Speaker 1: the the cleaning lady under the table was wrong. I
Speaker 1: would have never done it. How do I follow that?
Speaker 1: But it's it's it's it's my it's Miami and the
Speaker 1: Jets that I don't know what to do with. And
Speaker 1: I thought I was going to be all over Miami
Speaker 1: with this overreaction, and that's what I like to do
Speaker 1: with the look ahead six now down to three. But
Speaker 1: as the week goes on, I get less sure. So
Speaker 1: Miami and the Jets is a pass for me. I
Speaker 1: don't like the Eagles game because the Eagles are just
Speaker 1: flying high fly Eagles fly, and you think, oh, well,
Speaker 1: the Eagles could never lose again. They're gonna go and
Speaker 1: oh even though there aren't twenty five games to play,
Speaker 1: they're gonna win every single game. They could never lose.
Speaker 1: Their the greatest team of all time. Jalen Hurts is
Speaker 1: the greatest guy of all time. But Arizona, that Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray guy, he could run around who knows sooner or
Speaker 1: later the Eagle they're not going to cover every single game,
Speaker 1: So I don't want any part of it. Detruit in
Speaker 1: New England for me, mine is reflected on the line
Speaker 1: Tennessee and and Washington I am not quite ready to
Speaker 1: write off the landover commodes. They've got to get the
Speaker 1: ball to Terry McLaurin and McClory had two catches, five targets.
Speaker 1: It's over, my friend. I don't know the first step.
Speaker 1: The first step is acceptance accepted. I'm with West. I
Speaker 1: think I could just as likely see Washington winning this
Speaker 1: game as I could Tennessee. Tennessee is a slight favorite.
Speaker 1: Nothing would surprise me here. A blowout on either side
Speaker 1: would surprise me. So that's the game I will want
Speaker 1: no part of. And I think we've done all we
Speaker 1: can do from the Southamore. By the way, Wes, Jeff
Speaker 1: and I are going to go see uh Victor went
Speaker 1: on Yama here momentarily A you're gonna join us? You
Speaker 1: want to go? I might. I I had no plans
Speaker 1: as of this afternoon noon at the Dollar Loan Center,
Speaker 1: but we already got arena, right, don't go to a
Speaker 1: random dollar lone star. Um. We already got our tickets, though,
Speaker 1: so we gotta we gotta figure out where. I'm sure
Speaker 1: it would be no problem. I'm not worried about that. Thursday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we'll be okay. Tell us who that is
Speaker 1: because most of us have no idea he is what
Speaker 1: every There is going to be a massive Tanka Peloosa
Speaker 1: this year in the NBA might be the greatest of
Speaker 1: the lesson and I hope the Indiana Pacers are part
Speaker 1: of it. I hope they talking about that. They're all
Speaker 1: talking about he is. By the way, he's listed from
Speaker 1: anywhere between seven two to seven five. No one can
Speaker 1: no one has measured him apparently, and he is. We've
Speaker 1: never seen anything like this kid before. I always say
Speaker 1: that when they say, oh with the showtime Lakers played
Speaker 1: the Warriors, I always say, I go, yeah, they look
Speaker 1: across this is when Katie was playing for I said,
Speaker 1: they look across the court, they say Katie coming, and
Speaker 1: those guys would be like, what the hell is this?
Speaker 1: That's how we That's how we feel now about this guy.
Speaker 1: He is. He's like Kareem Abdul Jabbar's height shooting threes.
Speaker 1: And then he was looking like the rant out there
Speaker 1: shooting three the other night. It's it's amazing. So we're
Speaker 1: headed over to the where is he playing? Because I
Speaker 1: saw something in French in a French league. These are
Speaker 1: just two exhibition games in Vegas alight and the number
Speaker 1: go ahead. Todd, I'm sorry, you know what, So what
Speaker 1: is his deal? He's he's is he drafted or he's
Speaker 1: going to be drafted this coming, this coming, Here's he's
Speaker 1: gonna be the number one pick in this year and
Speaker 1: he's what and what is he playing for now? France
Speaker 1: is like pro team or something Rando France team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the number two guy, by the way, Scoot Henderson either Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm like, if we don't get there, if we don't
Speaker 1: tank for the French kid, I'd be tanked for this
Speaker 1: really good guard too. Well, that's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1: Thank you, guys, West West, Reynolds, everybody from Visan, thank
Speaker 1: you for being here. And Todd from his mom's cork
Speaker 1: Attic and Jeffrey Parlay also from visas a visa in
Speaker 1: fest today. Thanks for listening. Good luck with all your
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