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Speaker 1: LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here coming

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Speaker 1: up on this Wednesday edition. Of course, we've got the usuals.

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Speaker 1: We've got another edition up in case you missed it,

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Speaker 1: and in that we're gonna talk about some beef explained

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. We've got our midweek Awards, the OLP

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Speaker 1: Petrospopadega stops by, and we're gonna have another edition of

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Speaker 1: the Leftovers. We're also going to have a conversation about

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Speaker 1: to tag or not to tag in the NFL. Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray is headed elsewhere. We think we know which place

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Speaker 1: makes the most sense. We've got the very latest on

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Speaker 1: the Chauncey Billups drama surrounding his involvement in poker and

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Speaker 1: gambling and that whole fiasco. Plus we're going to dust

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Speaker 1: off an argument we didn't think was actually going to

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Speaker 1: last for multiple days here on the show. And it's

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Speaker 1: all yours next here, Two Pros and a cup of

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Speaker 1: Joe right here on Fox Sports Radio. It is two

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Speaker 1: LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox, with you. You can

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Speaker 1: feel in here on this Wednesday morning at better than Jonas? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we feel good.

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Speaker 2: Why do you feel good?

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Speaker 1: Because I finally got some acknowledgment from Coop on the

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Speaker 1: new banger that I chose for the for the open

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Speaker 1: of the show. About time, Coop, hey some respects. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't very good.

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Speaker 3: Damn we're gonna start off the show today, Jonas.

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Speaker 1: Is that a new commando's hat? It's Commanders where you go?

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Speaker 1: All right? We're back? We are back.

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Speaker 3: Oh go.

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Speaker 1: All right? So with that being said, how are you

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Speaker 1: guys doing everybody good? I'll feeling good here on this

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Speaker 1: on this Wednesday, everybody fired up.

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Speaker 3: I can't touch a break traveling, man, It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: Delays are one thing with flights, But then as I

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Speaker 4: as I'm heading out getting into the car to head

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Speaker 4: up to where I'm staying, I tell the driver's like, hey,

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Speaker 4: there's just a road shut down. You're gonna have to

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Speaker 4: go a certain route. She didn't want to listen, man,

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Speaker 4: didn't want to listen. That trip that should have been

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Speaker 4: forty minutes forty five minutes turned.

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Speaker 3: Into an hour and a half.

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Speaker 4: She was very surprised when we hit a whole lot

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Speaker 4: of traffic on one This is why they're going to

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Speaker 4: replace y'all with robots.

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Speaker 3: I was like, I'm just telling you right now. I was.

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Speaker 3: I was open with her.

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Speaker 4: I said, they're gonna they're gonna replace y'all with driverless cars.

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Speaker 3: I'm just telling you right now. I've already witnessed. Bro.

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Speaker 3: We were a part of it. I saw the future.

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Speaker 3: I was there, we were all there. Yeah. I kept

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Speaker 3: thinking to myself that waybo would have taken the right way.

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Speaker 3: She didn't. She didn't listen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you find out it's some part time

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Speaker 4: I don't grant that if he's going the right way.

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Speaker 1: He's he's he swapped out some homeless guy on drugs

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Speaker 1: for hey, you know, let me let me install a uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, a legendary quarterback as my as my guy

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Speaker 3: Believed and it would have been better than what I

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Speaker 4: But I will say this, that day was very revealing

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Speaker 1: And that that's that's a bunch of bs, because then

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Speaker 4: Okay, I guy who's also probably you know, you know,

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Speaker 5: He's better than that, I mean, I don't know him

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Speaker 5: and Kyler Murray probably about the same height.

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Speaker 3: That is points well done.

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Speaker 2: It is both both needed job.

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Speaker 1: You ain't got a job.

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Speaker 2: You ain't got no job.

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Speaker 5: Speaking speaking of jobs, whoa, I bet you those Twitter trolls,

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Speaker 5: I bet you they had what they if they thought

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Speaker 2: Damn enough with the blame game, right hand.

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Speaker 3: I wish people actually did the truth of what you

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Speaker 3: just said. That would be amazing. That is so vicious.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Sometimes you get blamed for stuff that you

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Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, and then there's a reprieve.

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Speaker 1: And then there's a reprieve.

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Speaker 5: You know, I don't know that there will be a

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Speaker 5: somebody in the Arizona Cardinals organization feels the same exact.

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Speaker 1: Way, Yeah, moving forward, they might. Kyler Murray will be

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Speaker 1: He's already guaranteed just under thirty seven million dollars for

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Speaker 1: next year. Mike Floyer reporting there two teams he'd prefer

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Speaker 1: it might financially make sense from Minnesota's standpoint to where Look,

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Speaker 2: It seems like it would make the most sense. I

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Speaker 4: Well, no, I was to say, you know, he's already

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Speaker 4: And I wonder we talk about numbers oftentimes about how

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Speaker 3: But you know, is it money or is it the

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Speaker 4: You know, we've heard a lot of ties to the

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Speaker 4: It feels like there's a number of organizations that are

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Speaker 4: But he's a player that you know, if he's healthy,

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Speaker 3: He can make all the throws.

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Speaker 4: But I do think the offense, if you looked at

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Speaker 4: matters for some coaches versus others. You know, I told

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Speaker 4: Off of that and and boots and everything else that

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Speaker 4: More obvious that you're not gonna be doing as much

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Speaker 4: Kyler Murray is even though he's a talent is experienced

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Speaker 4: that I think he's, you know, one of those guys

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Speaker 4: it's it's worth bringing him in if you want to

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Speaker 3: There's gonna be some things that are gonna change.

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Speaker 4: And if you look at Minnesota specifically, I look at

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Speaker 4: that pairing and say, yeah, that'd be it'd be great

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Speaker 4: to see what he'd looked like in that system. But

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Speaker 4: I don't know that that would help justin Jefferson get

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Speaker 4: sheerly from his size. I mean, I know we joke

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Speaker 5: And everything, well, it plays a factor because he has

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Speaker 5: an injury history as well, right like he dealt with

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Speaker 5: the foot, the Liz Frank injury this this past season,

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Speaker 5: He's gone through an ACL repair and and I mean

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Speaker 5: but he's certainly not young. So his size and his

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Speaker 5: health certainly needs to to play play a part. And

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Speaker 5: if you take a chance, I think this is a

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Speaker 5: Boom or Bush set up. I wonder what him being released.

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Speaker 5: I wonder what his price tag will be from him

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Speaker 5: and his representation. That could play a major part in it.

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Speaker 5: He may demand and command a franchise quarterbacks contract. How

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Speaker 5: will the franchises respond to that? Or there could be

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Speaker 5: Because I was confused as to why you would release

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but of course they they say, Matt Riens the

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Speaker 4: So however that works, you know, the Bears don't get

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Speaker 1: So by the way, I heard that Kyler Murray actually

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Speaker 3: He Actually he did have a good tweet like his was.

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Speaker 2: The cart in there?

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Speaker 1: All right? So this is this is from Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 1: This sounds like a very humble and gracious human being,

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Speaker 1: I wanted nothing more than to be the one to

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Speaker 1: that sounds like somebody who's appreciative. And then he's going

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Speaker 1: It's a good approach to the rules of engagement.

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Speaker 5: So he learned a little bit more than just switching

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Speaker 1: I can't believe.

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Speaker 2: It, do.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I haven't been a gamer for a while.

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Speaker 4: Is it mostly call of duty?

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Speaker 3: You think? Because it wasn't that what it's synced.

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Speaker 1: Uh? I think, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm a chess guy.

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Speaker 2: But you like him.

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Speaker 3: He's taking shots of you know far you like him.

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Speaker 2: Bigger or small bag?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Whatever? Yeah, so hey, we'll get to see, uh, because

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Speaker 3: He's going to.

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Speaker 4: Be the most desired of all the potential quarterbacks you'd

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Speaker 3: Is that a fair way of putting it.

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Speaker 1: But Pittsburgh. I could. I could see, if you know,

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Speaker 4: Hey, can I throw this out there? Yeah, I think

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think the only thing that.

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Speaker 4: that got elite that the pas or whoever they're defining them,

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Speaker 3: I can't understate how good Justin Jefferson is.

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Speaker 4: And for a quarterback like that is, you know, if

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Speaker 3: He's that. So I look at it and say, that

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Speaker 4: And it's not even what quarter that's not what quarterback necessarily,

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Speaker 3: And then I think everything else falls falls into place.

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Speaker 1: It's got to be an awkward feeling for nine looking

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Speaker 1: It's just that's gotta be uh got to be a

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Speaker 1: And and it feels like the day's are number there.

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Speaker 1: So it's too bad, too bad for a for him

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Speaker 1: But you know, we'll see world.

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Speaker 3: Cavs by five.

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Speaker 9: to Harden at the half court line. Harden with the

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Speaker 4: Coming up here, Throw out a curveball real quick before

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Speaker 1: Don't be so dismissive about it.

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Speaker 3: This is radio.

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Speaker 2: Come on it that curveball out here.

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Speaker 4: We can We don't have to do radio formats every time.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you don't have to be a robot if

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Speaker 1: you're undisciplined. I mean, of course you don't.

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Speaker 3: But you can be that uber driver that's going to

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Speaker 3: be replaced every once in a while.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's fine.

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Speaker 4: If the Calves were to win an NBA championship this season,

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Speaker 4: does that change you think their desire to bring in Lebron?

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Speaker 4: Does it make it more likely too because they want

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Speaker 4: it so does it matter? Or do you think they

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Speaker 4: look at it and say with just one one like,

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Speaker 4: we don't need him.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they need him period.

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Speaker 3: I get that. But I'm saying the result of this season,

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Speaker 3: if indeed.

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Speaker 4: Because the Cavs and they got hardened became the betting

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Speaker 4: favorites in the East to get to the NBA Finals,

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Speaker 4: if they do win it all, and then Donvin Mitchell

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Speaker 4: and James Harden bring Cleveland a championship. Is there any

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Speaker 4: change in sentiment towards bringing Lebron back for the Swan

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Speaker 4: song for the final season.

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Speaker 1: Yes, if they went in, I think they look at

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Speaker 1: it and say, we've now transitioned out of this. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate it, but you had multiple opportunities to stick around.

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Speaker 3: You left.

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Speaker 1: We're moving on as well too, and we've got a

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Speaker 1: championship team. We'll see you.

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Speaker 5: I say, no, I think that the value that exists

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Speaker 5: there is still there. That's and it's not because you're

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Speaker 5: trying to It would not be based around again, even

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Speaker 5: if they weren't the betting favorites, this move would not

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Speaker 5: represent move to win a championship.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you said the wing this move.

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Speaker 4: So again, from the business standpoint of it, they can't

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Speaker 4: charge more for tickets just because Lebron's coming like that's

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Speaker 4: that's for the secondary market thing.

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Speaker 3: It would have to be merchant.

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Speaker 5: That'll make money out somewhere else. Yeah, it'll be somewhere else,

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Speaker 5: but it will be for money. It is a bottom

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Speaker 5: line move. It's a smart bottom line move and why

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Speaker 5: not do it. Why not do it if it's not

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Speaker 5: going to impact your team one way or the other,

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Speaker 5: which some people are like, well, well, Lebron's both on

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Speaker 5: and it len Lebron's hard to play with.

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Speaker 2: Dad Like, no, man, like, he's Lebron.

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Speaker 4: But that is that is a legitimate point for this

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Speaker 4: reason because if you bring him on and this is

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Speaker 4: a team that then doesn't get to the postseason or

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Speaker 4: they can't get all the way to the finals, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: that actually is where your bottom line is impacted because

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Speaker 4: you don't get the additional home game revenue, you don't

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Speaker 4: get the you know, the additional you know, winnings that

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Speaker 4: you'd get from all of that. Right, So that is

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Speaker 4: a legitimate thing to consider, because again, the regular season

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Speaker 4: is the regular season. You know, will they make more

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Speaker 4: revenue and t shirt sales or whatever else they try

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Speaker 4: to do surrounding it, Sure, that's probably the case, but

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Speaker 4: not ticket sales.

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Speaker 3: The only way you're gonna make more money is.

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Speaker 4: If you actually go in the postseason, you go on

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Speaker 4: a deep run, so you're hosting postseason games.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think both are hypotheticals. He's not going

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Speaker 5: to be well, yeah, that's why I got to ask

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Speaker 5: player of anybody's team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't. I think it'll be fine.

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Speaker 1: He's but I could understand if it was some meddling, mediocre,

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Speaker 1: average team that was looking to have some sort of buzz,

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Speaker 1: create some sort of excitement a la the Wizards and

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan back in the day. I can understand that.

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Speaker 1: I get it. They don't need him. They're an actual

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Speaker 1: good team. They're a title contending team like that. That

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Speaker 1: ship is sailed.

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Speaker 2: Man, that draft at all? Okay, and he's from there?

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Speaker 1: All right, cool, there's a lot of people, but he

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Speaker 1: has been there twice.

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Speaker 3: You know. It's like, we've done this a couple of

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Speaker 3: times before, so you a third time? Oh?

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Speaker 1: So do I know him? And I'll bet and I'll

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Speaker 1: bet there's Calves. I'll bet there's Calves fans that are like, look, man,

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Speaker 1: or fans in Cleveland period that are like, hey, do

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Speaker 1: you know the bucket of crap we've had to swim

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Speaker 1: in watching the Browns and Deshaun Watson. We're too familiar

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Speaker 1: with bad transactions here. Let's just stay with what we got.

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Speaker 1: It's working, We've built this, it feels authentic, and let's

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Speaker 1: not turn this into the Lebron Show again. He's held

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Speaker 1: us hostage for long enough. Let's move forward. Happy trails

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Speaker 1: go wherever you need to go, go to New York.

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Speaker 1: That's been rumored for a long time. Let us just

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Speaker 1: go try and win a title and prove we can

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Speaker 1: do it without him. And I think, and I also

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Speaker 1: think there's a lot of you know, maybe people within

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland organization that are like, look, man, we want

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Speaker 1: to show that we can do it without him, like that,

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Speaker 1: this is more than just without Lebron. What are you?

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Speaker 1: And they've got an opportunity and there was I forget

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Speaker 1: who the player was when Donovan Mitchell was interviewed postgame,

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Speaker 1: who came up and yelled something like, this is Donovan

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Speaker 1: Mitchell's team, this is such and such a team. It's

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Speaker 1: kind of a statement like we don't we don't need

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Speaker 1: all of that. I think he apologized afterwards, but he

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Speaker 1: did come back and apologize for all that. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: just come on, man, ship is sailed, it's over. Got

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Speaker 1: to move on.

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Speaker 2: I see it both ways so much.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't hate him. I just think there's

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Speaker 1: a time and a place, and he's had multiple opportunities

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Speaker 1: I don't have. I don't have to Jonas's point.

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Speaker 4: I've had Cavs, I've had Cleveland Cavs fans tell me

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Speaker 4: exactly what Jonas just said. So I do see that,

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Speaker 4: But LeVar, I see it your way too. And I

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Speaker 4: also think if you win one without him, then you know,

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Speaker 4: you've kind of got a year to be like, hey,

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Speaker 4: we just want it, you know. But it would be

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Speaker 4: a little bit odd. Yeah, sure, you know, having the

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Speaker 4: team there for the ring ceremony and honoring them, you know,

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Speaker 4: while he's there and he's trying to make it about

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Speaker 4: him in his final year and not what the team

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Speaker 4: accomplished like last year.

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Speaker 1: So that would be hilarious. Yeah, somehow, some way he

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Speaker 1: would he would figure out a way to hijack that

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Speaker 1: moment guaranteed.

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Speaker 3: By the way, did you guys see the update on

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Speaker 3: Chauncey Billiffs.

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Speaker 1: Yes, they're all set to appear in court today, right.

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Speaker 1: I think today's the I.

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Speaker 4: Believe so, which you know that that whole case had

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Speaker 4: gone awfully quiet, but it could drag on for years.

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Speaker 4: That's that's what I don't think people understand that, like

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Speaker 4: this could be going on for three or four years.

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Speaker 4: I think they're such three in court today, but it's

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Speaker 4: it's supposed to continue in September or something later on.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's going to be a long drawn out process.

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Speaker 1: Prosecutors had a briefing yesterday and in the briefing they

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Speaker 1: submitted that they have evidence that includes body worn camera footage,

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Speaker 1: records concerning the defendant's arrests, Electronic evidence sees from seven

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Speaker 1: electronic devices and Apple I Cloud accounts, over a one

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Speaker 1: hundred thousand pages of financial records and telephone records, over

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Speaker 1: eight hundred pages of surveillance photographs, and pole camera footage

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Speaker 1: from one four to seven Lexington Avenue in Manhattan, one

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Speaker 1: of the sites of the alleged rigged poker games. So

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Speaker 1: they're letting everybody know, this is what we got. Have

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Speaker 1: fun with that, and it appears like that's gonna be

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough to beat. But that's that is Hall.

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Speaker 4: Of Famer too. By the way, Chauncey billups, that's right.

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Speaker 4: So he meant it to five all stars, I just

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Speaker 4: a championship.

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Speaker 5: Which, by the way, since y'all are y'all, you know

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Speaker 5: y'all did realize that Ben Wallace want It got into

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Speaker 5: the Hall of Fame based off of his rebounding and

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Speaker 5: his defense. He was consistent, So why couldn't that's That's

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Speaker 5: what I'm saying. No championships, no championship hips, and not

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Speaker 5: even close to any championships.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's.

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Speaker 5: Nothing of real note connected to his his career thus far.

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Speaker 5: I mean he's averaged a double I won't say that.

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Speaker 5: I take that back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's averaged a double double. He will if he

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Speaker 3: continues this trend. LeVar.

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Speaker 5: So let's see, we're going back to yesterday show because

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Speaker 5: I mean, you said messages saying that I'm the only

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Speaker 5: one still debating old topic. But y'all want to bring

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Speaker 5: back up because of Tonty Billips. You want to come road.

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Speaker 3: God, you're saying that, dude, Trey your sensitive dude.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Trey Young ain't been nobody. He ain't been nobody, MVP,

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Speaker 5: no nothing, nothing, not not not not offense, not defense,

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Speaker 5: not bench six man, rook hat nothing. He ain't been

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Speaker 5: nobody's nothing.

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Speaker 1: Twenty six and he's.

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Speaker 3: Four time starters, the runner of the Rookie runner.

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Speaker 1: Up twenty six and ten. For his career year, he's

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Speaker 1: third all time, which mind you?

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Speaker 3: Which mind you?

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Speaker 2: That guy?

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Speaker 5: I got that guy. I guess the year should be

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Speaker 5: in pole position to go to the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 5: Not to runner up, all right.

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Speaker 4: I mean that sounds like a hater, but I would

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Speaker 4: say this if he does continue on this trend, his

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Speaker 4: actual and especially if he ends up the Trey Young.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, it's the weird thing, but if he

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Speaker 4: ends up.

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Speaker 2: There, yeah, God, dude, can you just let me make

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Speaker 2: a point.

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Speaker 4: He'll end up with double the amount of career points

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Speaker 4: averaging and assists than Bill Ups did in his career.

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Speaker 4: I think about that for a second. Chauncey average about

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Speaker 4: fourteen fifteen points behind. What did God have to do

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Speaker 4: with this man? Come on, like, I let you make

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Speaker 4: your points. Mister and ss Sen same guy, not at all.

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Speaker 2: Don't even know Trey Young.

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Speaker 5: I don't know him. I don't there's no connection there.

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Speaker 5: I'm just giving my opinion.

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Speaker 1: If Trey Young's got a real you're.

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Speaker 5: Basing hypotheticals off of him being a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 5: I'm basing where he's at right now. I don't think.

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Speaker 3: Hall of famer.

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Speaker 1: If Trey Young's got to gripe about anything, it's the

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Speaker 1: fact that Caleb william Caleb Williams stole his celebration, the

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Speaker 1: Old Iceman celebration that was a Trey Young celebration and

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Speaker 1: stole it. That was that much like Freddy Mitchell and

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Speaker 1: the but it.

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Speaker 5: Does get cold in the winter, the belt, the discount

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Speaker 5: double check.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I stole from Freddy Mitchell.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 4: The problem for Trey Young too is I don't know

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Speaker 4: if he's gonna win any championships playing with the Wizards.

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Speaker 1: So oh no, no, no, no, that's not happening.

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Speaker 5: And I don't know that he's going to be an

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Speaker 5: All Star? Was he an All Star this year? I

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Speaker 5: don't think he's the last time he wasn't think.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's playing much. He's been injured.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, so that's what is. But I'm a hater.

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Speaker 2: He hasn't played enough. Why hasn't he played enough?

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Speaker 1: We were totality. Your career is okay, probably gonna make.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah yeah. You guys stick together, stick together.

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Speaker 2: We're talking totality.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 3: It's weird. You take probably hills. This is as good.

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Speaker 3: It's like, I don't where's where's the going? Where's Colonel

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Speaker 3: LeVar going?

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Speaker 6: Hill?

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Speaker 3: Well? Is it that we're all the other He's gonna

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Speaker 3: get killed up there.

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Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, if you would have told

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Speaker 1: me at the beginning of the year, A one topic

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Speaker 1: that's gonna last two days is Trey Young. I would

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Speaker 1: have said, you were nuts.

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Speaker 3: Trey Young.

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Speaker 4: He's played ten games like he's been injured.

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Speaker 3: For us to do.

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Speaker 5: Okay, you know how many guys could have been Hall

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Speaker 5: of Famers and they didn't become Hall of Famers because

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Speaker 5: of injury?

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Speaker 2: Like do we want to count? Are you on that list?

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Speaker 2: Am I on that list?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not.

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Speaker 5: I'm not. I mean, I'm not trying to hate on

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Speaker 5: the fact that the man is injured and he's not

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Speaker 5: playing because of injuries.

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Speaker 3: I would just said this season, you have got no

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Speaker 3: problems time wars leading.

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Speaker 2: Uh, you know what happens. You know what happens.

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Speaker 5: The older you get as an athlete, you know, you

723
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Speaker 5: know what happens. You get more and more injuries. You know,

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Speaker 5: you know what happens. Once you've had injuries and you

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00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 5: get a little older, you get more injuries, and then

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Speaker 5: it becomes more injury prone, and then they're more frequent,

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Speaker 5: and then you got to deal with that, and then

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Speaker 5: you know, if you can handle the pain good, Sometimes

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Speaker 5: you can't a lot of times your game, but his

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Speaker 5: better days are behind him. His best days are behind him. Sorry,

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Speaker 5: somebody's got to say it.

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Speaker 1: You know, guys. Russell Wilson has been the subject of

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Speaker 1: a lot of jokes, a lot of commentary, a lot

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Speaker 1: of negative feedback over the past several years. Sean Payton,

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Speaker 1: is former head coach, took a couple of shots at

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Speaker 1: him as well too. Russell Wilson responded on social media

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Speaker 1: brought up bounty gate, which you know, nobody really saw

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Speaker 1: coming from Russell Wilson because he usually keeps a pretty pc,

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Speaker 1: pretty clean. He was on with Busting with the Boys

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Speaker 1: and he explained his side of the story with the

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton beef.

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Speaker 7: I don't say much. I never hardly ever say anything.

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Speaker 7: I think there's a time and place. But sometimes you

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Speaker 7: get fatigued of people talking about you. You just so

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Speaker 7: like you mentioned, you're all human, you know, but it's

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Speaker 7: one thing for people that maybe aren't in the field

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Speaker 7: or aren't people say bots or whatever, talking like I don't,

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Speaker 7: I don't worry about that stuff. To me, when you've

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Speaker 7: been in the ring, or you've been on the same

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Speaker 7: side and this and that, and I got the same

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Speaker 7: amount of rings as you got. Meaning Sean listen, I

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Speaker 7: got a lot of respect for him as a play caller,

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Speaker 7: this and that. But to take a shot, I don't don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't like.

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Speaker 7: I don't think it's necessary, especially when I'm not even

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Speaker 7: on your own team anymore. So for me, I've realized

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Speaker 7: I've stayed quiet for so long. There's a time and

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Speaker 7: place where I'm not For me. I know who I

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Speaker 7: am as a competitor, as a warrior, as a as

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Speaker 7: a champion. To I've beaten Sean to you know, like

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Speaker 7: we've been on the same place and the same thing,

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Speaker 7: and so it's not a matter of disrespect.

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Speaker 3: Just don't disrespect me.

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Speaker 1: It's good for Russell Wilson standing his gros too, you know,

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Speaker 1: getting his side of the story out. A lot of

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Speaker 1: people taking shots at Russell Wilson on this show. I'm

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Speaker 1: glad to not be a part of that.

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Speaker 3: Well, ain't me as say, I feel like it's you two.

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Speaker 1: I went after Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 2: Come on, I'm not worried about Russ. Sorry, I mean,

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Speaker 2: who knows.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he's got all this stockpiled and he's just gonna

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Speaker 1: after the season, after his career is over, or just

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Speaker 1: you know, kind of lay into somebody. And by the way, what.

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Speaker 3: Is he he's going to be on TV? I know

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Speaker 3: that for sure he.

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Speaker 2: Talks like a coach.

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Speaker 1: How much longer do you think he gives us a go?

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Speaker 2: Wait, he's still been going, Oh geez.

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Speaker 4: I mean I would say he's going to exhaust all efforts,

807
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Speaker 4: but it will get to a point I think where

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Speaker 4: he's gonna have to decide if he wants to still

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Speaker 4: do it, even though he's not making what he used

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Speaker 4: to and more of a backup role. And with a

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Speaker 4: guy who's got a ring, who's been to a couple

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Speaker 4: of Super Bowls, he's got to decide if he wants

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Speaker 4: to still do that, and that's not always the easiest decision.

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Speaker 1: All right, So let's let's we did it with Trey Young.

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson a Hall of Famer or no.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's got the same credentials, probably better than

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Speaker 4: Eli outside of you know, Eli's got two Super Bowls.

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Speaker 3: He's only got one.

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Speaker 2: Eli's got a Super Bowl MVP.

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Speaker 3: That is true.

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Speaker 1: If you would have asked me five years ago, I

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Speaker 1: would have said, no doubt. But the five Starars since

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be an interesting debate to see what happens

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Speaker 1: with Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you could do that with with Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 3: The last few years of his career. It's like, hasn't

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Speaker 3: been as good as you had hope.

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Speaker 1: Ye, Well, good for you, Russ. Wait to stand your ground, man,

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Speaker 1: Way to stick up for yourself. Enough with the negativity

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Speaker 1: and all these people coming after you, start laying to waste,

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Speaker 1: all the haters