1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast, the number one show 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: for the invested sports fan. 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 2: Winn took Your Down, You got real telling, don't concentrate 4 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 2: on golf. 5 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to another edition of the Action Network Podcast. 6 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: I'm Jason Sobell, Senior golf writer for the Action Network, 7 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 1: joined as always by Drew Stoltz aka The Sleeves, our 8 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: former pro in residence. We will be joined later by 9 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 1: Peter Jennings of course, the Gambler, and we have a 10 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: very special guest tonight, and we've been privileged enough to 11 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: be joined by a guy that we want to have 12 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: on the pod for a little while now because he's 13 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: got a great story, Zach Suker. 14 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 3: Thanks so much for joining us first of all. 15 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: Secondly, just gonna start out and ask you to tell 16 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: a little bit of your story, because a lot of 17 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: it is based on mantra that we love here at 18 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: the Action Network, which is bet on yourself. And you 19 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: have bet on yourself over the years and started to 20 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: base some. 21 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 4: Dividends, isn't it. 22 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 5: Oh exactly right. First off, thanks for having me on here, 23 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 5: and uh yeah, I'll get it into the story. The 24 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 5: uh yeah, this it's been kind of a crazy last 25 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 5: year and a half really really last like three years 26 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 5: for us, with having surgery, having an injury, trying to 27 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 5: figure out medical I feel like on this tour you're 28 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 5: always trying to figure out some new scenario. I think 29 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 5: I've had like six years between the Web and the PTA, 30 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 5: and I've never been in the same category twice. It's 31 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 5: been very nice to learn all this, But yeah, we 32 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 5: had we had some hard times coming out after after 33 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 5: our surgery, me and my family, and we started out 34 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 5: this year kind of kind of in the hole, trying 35 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 5: to figure out how everything's gonna work, trying to pay 36 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 5: off some credit code bills with with two uh, with 37 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 5: two kids, with my wife and family, and so we 38 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 5: uh starting out the year and the whole when finally 39 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 5: kind of I had to, you know, wife had to 40 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 5: come to Sandy, like, we're betting on ourselves this year. 41 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 5: We're gonna bet that we're gonna have good play, We're 42 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 5: gonna work harder than we ever have and trust that 43 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 5: it will pay off. And going into The Traveler, really 44 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 5: this whole year has been for the best go if 45 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 5: I've played in my life, and uh, the Travelers was 46 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 5: kind of the the peak of that. Having a Tide 47 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 5: for second, which kind of opened the doors and the 48 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 5: rest of the year. 49 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, Zach, you mentioned, and it's been well publicized the 50 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 2: fact that you had to take out some credit card 51 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 2: debt you went, I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, 52 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: But seven months at one point without any income when 53 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 2: you were getting these credit cards and putting expenses on 54 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 2: that and stuff, was there ever any like self doubt 55 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: or second guessing, like, holy shit if this doesn't work out, 56 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 2: like I don't know where I. 57 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 6: Go from there. You're obviously gambling on. 58 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 2: Yourself and it's worked out perfectly in your favor and 59 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 2: you've you were able to capitalize on that. 60 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 6: But what was it like when you were doing that? 61 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 2: Was there ever just like a come to Jesus moment 62 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: where you're like, oh boy, I really need to I 63 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 2: really need to start playing some good golf. 64 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure. So the tour sets up long term 65 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 5: disability for you. And it's great because I wasn't small 66 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,839 Speaker 5: almost to have any insurance on myself that I would 67 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 5: have had, things would have been a lot easier. But 68 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 5: they do long term disability, and they it takes two 69 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 5: hundred and ten days to get your first check from it. 70 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 5: And so we had a I had a good web 71 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 5: dot com, and we had some money saved up, and 72 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 5: we got to looking at it and I didn't have 73 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 5: a great PGA tour year, where it would have been 74 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 5: a whole lot easier before the injury, but we kind 75 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 5: of watched that money, uh slowly dwindle away, and it 76 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 5: became really stressful right before the first check started coming 77 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 5: in from the long term disability, and which is great, 78 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 5: because we had had medical bills, all kinds of stuff 79 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 5: coming in. I'd done some stem cell injections which were 80 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 5: which were ridiculous, I think they were. We had done 81 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 5: all of that stuff, and so it became pretty stressful, 82 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 5: and then we started to build back up to that 83 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 5: when the checks started to come in. But we always 84 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 5: knew that we don't we need in trouble when the 85 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 5: year started, because once we said like, okay, here's the 86 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 5: date we think we're going to get started back on 87 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 5: thelib dot com, it started so slow that we were 88 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 5: we knew we were going to get into trouble. We 89 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 5: knew we couldn't save enough from that and still pay 90 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 5: off our bills. I went in and we had my 91 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 5: car paid off. I traded in. I had a suburban. 92 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 5: We traded that in for a car and started making 93 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 5: payments on that so we would have some money saved 94 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 5: up that way. We did the same thing with my 95 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 5: wife's car, and so we had done done everything I could. 96 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 5: I felt like to not ever actually go into debt 97 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 5: where I started to pay any penalties. I wanted to say, hey, 98 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 5: we can dig our way out of this. The last 99 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 5: thing I want to do is start paying you know, ten, 100 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 5: fifteen to twenty percent off of something where it's hard 101 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 5: to dig out of a hole. And well, we did 102 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 5: the same thing with the credit card, saying let's let's 103 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 5: open some zero interest for twelve months credit cards and 104 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 5: rack them up and we'll go from there. And it 105 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 5: was a it was a long conversation to try to 106 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 5: figure out to do that, how it would work renew 107 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 5: in if if this doesn't work out and a year, 108 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 5: we're gonna be in serious trouble. Right, we don't even 109 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 5: know where we're going to go from there. But I 110 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 5: think one of the biggest things the year was I 111 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,239 Speaker 5: was in San Antonio for the web dot Com event, 112 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 5: and I had made a lot of cuts that year. 113 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 5: I think I don't just one web dot com of 114 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 5: five events, but I hadn't made really any money. It 115 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 5: was still we were still going in the wrong direction 116 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 5: out there on that tour. If you don't have top twenty, 117 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 5: you're not doing much, especially in a family at home. 118 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 5: And so we went to San Antonio and I was 119 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 5: on the course on Monday when I received our PGA 120 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 5: tour insurance for the family build and pay. They do 121 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 5: it twice a year, and that honestly, I was out. 122 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 5: I was on the course on Monday and I'm like, 123 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 5: oh my god, we can't pay it. How are we getting? 124 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 5: Like what are we going to do with this? Like 125 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 5: that's that's something they uh draw out of your account 126 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 5: and I'm like, we don't have that, and it said 127 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 5: it comes out in ten days or something, and I 128 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 5: got the email. I didn't even tell my wife because 129 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 5: she would have gone, you know, she wouldn't have been 130 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 5: happy to them. And and that week I played great. 131 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:12,239 Speaker 5: I finished tied for fourth and was like, oh my gosh, 132 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 5: we had breathing room, like made I think twenty something 133 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 5: thousand and immediately had breathing room. And I was like, Oh, 134 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 5: this is the greatest thing ever, Like we can we 135 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 5: can go on from here, and when I made the 136 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 5: cut the next week at the Wells Fargo, had some 137 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 5: more breathing room. Did the same thing at the Byron 138 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 5: Nelson next week, and all of a sudden, I was like, 139 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 5: oh my gosh, we're like, there's there's a light at 140 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 5: the end of this tunnel. And it hadn't been a 141 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 5: you know, we only been in the tunnel for a 142 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 5: few months. It wasn't crazy and uh, and it was 143 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 5: just a huge amount of stress lifted those weeks, you know. 144 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 5: And then to be to be honest, I always joke around, 145 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 5: like I've told us to most of my family, the 146 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 5: Wells Fargo was, I felt more pressure coming down the 147 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 5: stretch of that event I had. I was the final 148 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 5: group finishing and I was on the cut line with sixteen, 149 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 5: seventeen and eighteen to play, all really hard holes of 150 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 5: trouble everywhere. Yeah, And I felt far more pressure on 151 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 5: those three holes going par par par than I ever 152 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 5: did at at the Travelers. Although I had tons of 153 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 5: pressure the Travelers, it was it was very different. Like 154 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 5: the Travelers was like big picture pressure, like I've already 155 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 5: had a huge, awesome week no matter what. The Wells 156 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 5: Fargo was like, this gets me another fifteen to twenty 157 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 5: out of debt, Like this is I need this bad 158 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 5: and uh and it was one hundred percent on me, 159 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 5: Like we knew exactly what the Cup was gonna be. 160 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 5: We already knew everything. Like it was just make three 161 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 5: pars on three of the hardest holes of the year 162 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 5: and and you know, you move on. And so you 163 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 5: know that that week, that week was huge for just 164 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 5: getting some more breathing room and having that you know 165 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 5: that there's nothing like money problem stressed out here on 166 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 5: this tour. I guess there's nothing like money problem in 167 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 5: any stress, but it was it'll wear you down. 168 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 4: I mean that sounds so relatable. 169 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: I think anyone listening to this, especially we have a 170 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: lot of gamblers listening, They say, I get money problem. 171 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily get Brooks Kopka problems like yeah, which 172 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: boat should I take over there? And which major championship 173 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: trophy should I put on? 174 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 4: Which mantel? 175 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: But I think everybody relates to having pressure on them. 176 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: Zach. 177 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: Was there ever a time when you said, I mean, 178 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: other players were said, look, I'm thirty two years old, 179 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: it's been long enough. 180 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 4: I've given it a good shot. 181 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: I think I could make it, but I just can't 182 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: do it financially, and I'm gonna hang it up and 183 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: go be a club pro, or I'm gonna go selling 184 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: shorts or do something else. Did you ever get to 185 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: a point where it was that close where you said, 186 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: I don't. 187 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 3: Think I can do it anymore, and you just kind 188 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 3: of went ahead and did it anyway. 189 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 5: I thought I crossed my mind, But if I'm honest, 190 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 5: it was never real like I don't know what else 191 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 5: I'd do if I wasn't playing golf. I think it 192 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 5: was always like am I good enough to keep doing this? 193 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 3: Like? 194 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 5: Will I be able to come back from this injury? 195 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 5: I don't know? You know, it was more like I 196 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 5: don't think it was ever a real thought honestly to 197 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 5: say like, I don't know, because I honestly I don't 198 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 5: know what I do without golf. I've never put enough 199 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 5: thought to know where I go from there. 200 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 6: To be honest, you can always host a podcast, dude. 201 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 6: You know you ever thought about that? You just hop 202 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 6: on the Action Network, dude, It's simple, O kidding. Well, Well, 203 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 6: we'll get into. 204 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 2: The window here in a little bit, but I just 205 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 2: want to speak on your year as a whole. So 206 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 2: looking you touched on where you were kind of financially 207 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 2: and in the state of your golf game as well, 208 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 2: but looking at where you were prior to the travelers 209 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 2: and playing on the medical and all that, regardless. 210 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 6: Of what happens the rest of the year. 211 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 2: I think you're one forty two right now on the 212 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 2: FedEx Cup points list. Do you view this season as 213 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 2: a huge success, like doing what you did coming off 214 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 2: the medically, like, regardless of anything going forward with the 215 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 2: playoffs or no playoffs or anything like that. 216 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, the goal. The goals were really different this year. 217 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 5: So before this year, the goal was always the PGA Tour, 218 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 5: so I've always been or the goal was the web 219 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 5: dot com. It depends on you know, where you're at 220 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 5: the time. When I was on the Hooters Tour or 221 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 5: the e Golf Tour back when those were great many tours, 222 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 5: the goal was on get to Q School, get full 223 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 5: status on the web dot com or Cornberry Now get 224 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 5: out there and play, you know, a full year out there. 225 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 5: And then when you got to the web dot com. 226 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 5: Literally the only goal was the PGA Tour. It's not 227 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 5: it was never I want to win three times so 228 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 5: I can go straight to the PGA Tour, or I don't. 229 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 5: I just want to maintain status on the p On 230 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 5: the web dot com, it was always cut and drive. 231 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 5: That's the goal, doesn't care how it happens when you 232 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 5: win this week or get through the finals and finish 233 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 5: fifth like I did one year that locked up. It 234 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 5: was just get to the PGA Tour, and then when 235 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 5: you're on the PGA Tours, the goal is to win, 236 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 5: the goals to stay there, and the goals never to 237 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 5: drop back to the web dot com. But this year 238 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 5: he used the injury to start the year, I really 239 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 5: only had one goal, and it was job security for 240 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 5: the next year. I had such an awful year before 241 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 5: with only six events left. My number one goal to 242 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 5: start the year was I want to I want John, 243 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 5: I want to play on a tour next year. Because 244 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,599 Speaker 5: it was very light, it was very possible that I 245 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 5: didn't have any status on any tour and so I 246 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 5: wasn't gonna be able to play a full schedule on 247 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 5: the web dot com. I wasn't locked into the finals 248 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 5: yet I still had to make probably sixty points or 249 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 5: something just to reach or seventy points just to reach 250 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 5: finals through the PGA Tour, and I only had six 251 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 5: events guaranteed to do it, and I only had a 252 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 5: half schedule on the web dot com. No matter how 253 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 5: everything happened, to make web dot com for the next year, 254 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 5: to make finals through that. So the goal, the goal 255 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 5: to start the year was one have somewhere to play 256 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 5: next year. So you're not going to Q school because 257 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 5: no one ever wants to go back to Q school 258 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 5: out here. It's most stressful events of your life. Is 259 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 5: literally the whole year is laying on one or two 260 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 5: weeks and uh that that was the main goal, and 261 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 5: it was really nice. I locked that up on the 262 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 5: web dot com or on the Cornberry Tour where it 263 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 5: was in Raleigh a couple of weeks before Travelers, and 264 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 5: that was huge to say I'm now in the finals. 265 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 5: I at least have the web dot com to play 266 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 5: next year, Like now I can finally focus on the 267 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 5: PGA Tour and actually competing. And the goals all changed there, 268 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 5: and so it was, Yeah, the year is the year 269 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 5: is a huge success. Way before Travelers. 270 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, you were mentioning the web dot or the corn Fairy, 271 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 2: got I do the same thing. The corn Ferry Tour, 272 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 2: and you know you've got experience on both tours. But 273 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 2: for the people listening, explain just how fine a line 274 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 2: it is in terms of like the talent gap between 275 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 2: those two tours, between the Corn Fairy and the PJ Tour, 276 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 2: because I don't know if people really like the money. 277 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 2: You mentioned how hard it is to make money unless 278 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 2: you finished in the top twenty. But in reality, we'll 279 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 2: just just talk about your perspective on the talent gap 280 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 2: between the Corn Faery and the DJ Tour. 281 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 5: I think almost every guy that's gone through the Web 282 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 5: dot Com Tour that's made it to the PGA Tour 283 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 5: through through that. And haven't you take out, you know, 284 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 5: some of the top guys on the PGA Tour, maybe 285 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 5: take out the top ten or twenty guys on the 286 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 5: PGA Tour. I think everyone else would agree that it's 287 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 5: that it is paper thin the difference between the two tours. 288 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 5: There are so many guys on the Web dot Com 289 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 5: Tour that are that are capable of winning on the 290 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 5: PGA Tour that don't even get that never get through 291 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 5: the Web dot Com. It's it's ridiculous, how you know 292 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 5: how small the margins are I think they're good weeks 293 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 5: from the guys in the weeb dot com good weeks 294 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 5: are very similar. 295 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: Zach, you mentioned before we got on the pod, we're 296 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: just had a little conversation that you're the last man 297 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: in the field. 298 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 4: I didn't realize this. You're the last man into the 299 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,239 Speaker 4: field based on your number. 300 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: For the Windom Championship this week, obviously the last event 301 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: before we get to the FedEx Cup playoffs. You're one 302 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: forty second on the FedEx Cup points list, which means 303 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: a good week and you've got a chance to get 304 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: into the playoffs next week, a not so good week 305 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: and probably not dropping past one point fifty. So, worst 306 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: case scenario, you have at least partial status next year. 307 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 1: Best case scenario, you out and win the damn thing 308 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: this week and you have a great story book ending 309 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: to what's been a terrific story so far this year. 310 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 3: So I guess my question is for. 311 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 1: Everybody listening who wants some gambling advice and wants some 312 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: betty advice, do we place a little action on you 313 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: this week because you're certainly a guy who knows how 314 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: to play with some pressure on. 315 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 5: Him, exactly right. I think there's very few times on 316 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 5: this tour, and you can actually be in a spot, 317 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 5: especially for the middle of the pack guys, Guys at 318 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 5: the top, you know, they're in a different bulletour, guys 319 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 5: who have had a lot of success earlier in the 320 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 5: year that I won. But I think there are so 321 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 5: many times in the year where it all matters, and 322 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 5: this is one of This is one of the few 323 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 5: weeks where a fortieth place finish really doesn't do much 324 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 5: for me. I don't I can't remember a time ever 325 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 5: of anybody moving down nine spots in one week to 326 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 5: drop out of the one fifty And with the added 327 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 5: events that they've played. Next year, I think there's like 328 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 5: seven regular events or not counting the overseas events on 329 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 5: the Fall Series next year, and everything reshuffles in and 330 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 5: so I think I'm getting my starts. Whether you're one 331 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 5: thirty five or one fifty next year, you're gonna get 332 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 5: some starts early, which is which is all you can 333 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 5: ask for. And so going into this week, I'm pretty excited. 334 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 5: I'm playing. I'm playing on Bermuda grass for the first 335 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 5: time this whole year on the PGA Tour. For me, 336 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 5: I guess I played wells Fargo that was the only 337 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 5: event on like true Southern Green events, grainy Greens, like 338 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 5: I grew up on inmobile that I've that I can remember, 339 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 5: and so it's nice to play that. It's also nice 340 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 5: to know, like, hey, top ten does a lot. I 341 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 5: don't have a whole lot to lose, so it's it's 342 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 5: kind of nice. I'll go trying to make as many 343 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 5: burdies as I can. 344 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 2: You know who else was the last guy in the 345 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 2: field recently that had a big week a similar situation 346 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 2: You actually Nate. 347 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 6: Lashly and uh oh yeah, so it can be done. 348 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 5: It can be done exactly. I like, you know, don't 349 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 5: count the last guy in. 350 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 6: Out, Hey one fifty six is still in the field. 351 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 2: You mentioned that you're one forty two, and more likely 352 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 2: than not, whatever happens this week, you don't drop out 353 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 2: of the top one point fifty, which will be huge 354 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 2: for you in terms of getting starts next year. But 355 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 2: for the guys who are on the bubble this week, 356 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 2: and there are a lot of them in that one 357 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 2: twenty to one thirty range that are playing, it's essentially 358 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 2: like Q. 359 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 6: School almost for them. 360 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 2: This week, I feel like where every shot is kind 361 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 2: of do or die out there, and it's a really 362 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 2: big grind. You notice just being at the golf tournament 363 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 2: this week that the vibe is different amongst the players 364 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 2: who are who are you know? This is their last 365 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 2: shot to either work their way into the top twenty 366 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 2: one to twenty five or to hold on to that spot. 367 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 5: To be honest, I think the vibe out here for 368 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 5: the most part from most of those guys is that 369 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 5: they're all extremely tired. I'm pretty pretty easy when it 370 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 5: comes to golf. I don't I don't try to overwork myself. 371 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 5: I'm not a huge grinder on the range, and I 372 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 5: think that anybody the bubble, the grind at the end 373 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 5: of the year is pretty brutal, and I'm in that 374 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 5: category for sure. I think this is my tenth straight 375 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 5: week of golf right now. And we we had commented 376 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 5: this was like four or five weeks ago. We had commented, 377 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 5: we'd love to know a stat of broken or bent 378 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 5: clubs per event and watch how much it goes up 379 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 5: at the end of the year, and uh and how 380 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 5: and and how much you just just the pressure and 381 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 5: the grind of doing it. You start the year, no 382 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 5: one plays more than three events in a row. Everybody's 383 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 5: taking off, you know, a week here and a week there, 384 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 5: staying staying fresh. And this time of the year, everyone 385 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 5: is just grinding because everyone knows how much each point matters. 386 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 5: Everybody has something to play for unless you're, you know, 387 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 5: inside the top of one twenty right now. But everyone 388 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 5: outside of one twenty has been grinding for weeks straight, 389 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 5: most likely five or six seven weeks in a row 390 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 5: of NonStop golf. And so that, uh, that travel schedule 391 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 5: and all that, well, we'll wear on you. So I 392 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 5: think that's kind of general vibe that everyone's everyone's tired, 393 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 5: but everyone's fighting through it and and they know how 394 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 5: much matters. 395 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 6: Zach getting in getting in a little bit more into 396 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 6: this week. 397 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 2: So as soon as we're done with you on the interview, 398 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 2: we're gonna go in and we end up picking head 399 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 2: to head matchups, we build a fantasy lineup and all 400 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 2: that stuff. Give us a little insights since you're there 401 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 2: about on this golf course this week, what kind of 402 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: players it suits, uh, and what to look for for 403 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 2: for all the gamblers out there that are looking to 404 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 2: get a little inside scooped. 405 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 5: Oh man, I would I would take number one thing 406 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 5: by far is uh is strokes gained off the team? 407 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 5: I think this week, look at the guys that drive 408 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 5: it well, there's a few, there's a few long holds, 409 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 5: but I think being in the fairway is more important 410 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 5: than anything. Obviously, the length makes a huge difference for 411 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 5: Birdie's and then and then on top of that, I 412 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 5: would say players that have played well on Bermuda because 413 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 5: there's not that many courses throughout the season other than 414 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 5: the Florida Swing, this is not a whole lot of 415 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 5: events that are that are played on on real Bermuda 416 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 5: golf courses. So I think Southern Southern golfers are important, 417 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 5: and I think strokes gained off the tee be what 418 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 5: I look at. 419 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, so let me jump in real quick. Are our 420 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 2: other member of our podcast. Peter Jennings is our big 421 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,479 Speaker 2: pro gambler, super data guy, has all the numbers on everyone. 422 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 2: He can tell you, like which type of underwear you 423 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 2: play best? Then probably he knows everything. But he's got 424 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 2: a big theory and it's interesting hearing it from a 425 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 2: player because I tend to agree with you. He has 426 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 2: a theory that the types of grasses that player that 427 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 2: the course is being held on doesn't have an effect 428 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 2: on like players scoring where I would argue, and you've 429 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 2: mentioned it, you know, multiple times, all right on this pod. 430 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:26,479 Speaker 2: Like for you a guy from the South who grew 431 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 2: up on this grasp, it's a huge difference for you 432 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 2: playing on something like this that you're comfortable in. Where's 433 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 2: the guy coming from the West coast who doesn't play 434 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 2: near maybe went to college out west and doesn't play 435 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 2: in the Florida Bermuda where it's super grainy and stuff 436 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 2: like that. 437 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 6: It is a lot different and a lot tougher. Would 438 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 6: you agree with that? 439 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? 440 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 5: I think that. I think if I'm if I play 441 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 5: really good, I'm gonna play really good anywhere. But I 442 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 5: think that confidence wise, I think my chance, my chances 443 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 5: are playing good go way up. Playing on grass that 444 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 5: I like, I'll go ahead and say right now, I 445 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 5: would never bet on me ever on soft polana greens, 446 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 5: that's a good good I try to do every thing right. 447 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 5: I try to go with the confidence. I try to 448 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 5: stick to my game plan. I try to do everything 449 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 5: right in my career. I'm awful on soft planta and 450 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 5: if if it's firm, fast, then then I'm okay. But 451 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 5: but once it gets soft, I am I do not. 452 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 5: I do not feel great chipping on it. I do 453 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 5: not feel good putting on it. And my stats would 454 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 5: show that, you know, I think pretty pretty clearly. I 455 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 5: next year, Oh my gosh, that pebbles a nightmare. I 456 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 5: played one year, I had all the flood. I had 457 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 5: the shakes for like two weeks after that event, like 458 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 5: it was probably three or four years ago. That was 459 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 5: I was. I was a mess. That's that's my I 460 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 5: think that's the prettiest place in the whole world. There's 461 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 5: no other place I'd rather play golf than those three courses. 462 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 5: And man, when it rains, it's almost worth not playing. 463 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 5: And I'd hard to say that because that was literally 464 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 5: there are three of my favorite courses the whole year. 465 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 5: And uh, but I was, I was a wreck after 466 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 5: that place. But yeah, I would. I think that'd be 467 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 5: pretty crazy. And uh, I think if there's any stat 468 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 5: that it would be, it would be people are confident 469 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 5: different types of grass and which you know, obviously this 470 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 5: is a lot. 471 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 6: Grass does matter and Peter's an idiot. That was basically 472 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 6: what we got to there. 473 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 2: I like, thank you for Zach. 474 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: My last question for you, h again, we like talking betting, 475 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 1: We like talking gambling, and we like talking some sort 476 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: of futures, and I want to know about your future 477 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: five years down the road kind of what's what's Zach's ceiling? 478 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 4: How good can you be? 479 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: How good you think you can be five years from 480 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 1: now you'd be thirty seven? 481 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 4: Where do you see yourself? 482 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 3: Where do you see your career going between. 483 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 2: Now and then? 484 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 5: Honestly, I think it's it's being out here and playing 485 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 5: four years, being in that top one twenty five and 486 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 5: being pretty consistent. I think if I look back at 487 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 5: my last like fifteen years of golf, going back to 488 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 5: even college, I struggled early. Once I made a team, 489 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 5: I settled in first two years, where struggle, third and 490 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 5: fourth year were great, turn pro even struggle on the 491 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 5: Hooters Tour for a couple of years, getting comfortable. Once 492 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 5: I was comfortable, I did fine. It was the same 493 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 5: thing in the Web dot Com tour lost status the 494 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 5: first two years I had it first three years actually 495 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 5: out there. Once I felt good out there, I kind 496 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 5: of got into a rhythm and it's been very very consistent. 497 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 5: I put for myself, I feel like out there, and 498 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 5: then I think it's kind of the same way as 499 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 5: the PGA Tour. The first year. I was never comfortable 500 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 5: the first year ide status. People always try to prepare you, 501 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 5: you know, the team you have around, your coach, your agents, 502 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 5: all these guys prepare you like they throw everything at you. 503 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 5: They tell you everyone's gonna be, you know, throwing everything 504 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 5: at you. When you get out there, there's distractions everywhere, 505 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 5: and so I definitely fell into that category of getting 506 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 5: prey distracted my first year out in the PGA kind 507 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 5: of had my second year last year, and this year. 508 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 5: All of a sudden, I think I've made more cuts 509 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 5: this year in my nine starts that I made my 510 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 5: whole PGA Tour career in the thirty something. So I 511 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 5: think I'm finally getting comfortable out here, finally feeling finally 512 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 5: feeling I got the water out here, I guess, And 513 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 5: so that that's nice, and so I think the where 514 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 5: I see myself as getting more and more comfortable and 515 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 5: just continuing to hold out of here. 516 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: Zach, You're already pretty high on the list of our 517 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 1: favorite podcasts that we've had on. 518 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 4: You've been fantastic. 519 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 1: We appreciate you spending some time with us, and now 520 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna move up that other list this week. I 521 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: think we're all going to bank on you and I'll 522 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: put a little action on you for the Windom Championship 523 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: this week. I know we will all be rooting for 524 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: you no matter what. So thanks again and good luck 525 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: this week, Zach. 526 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 5: All right, thank you very much. Thanks for having me on. 527 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 5: This is fun. 528 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 6: Thank you, Zach, appreciate it. 529 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 4: There he is slease. I think I might have a 530 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 4: new favorite player, Zach Suker. That guy is awesome. 531 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: I hope that guy wins twenty seven tournaments in his 532 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: career and we get to talk to him after every single. 533 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 4: One of them, because he's a lot of fun. 534 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: And Peter Jennings, our resident gambler joining us now. Peter, 535 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: I know you were able to listen. 536 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 4: In on that interview. 537 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: What do you think of Zach Suker and his story 538 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: and betting on yourself? 539 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 7: Yeah, I love it. Huge fan of Zach. And that's 540 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 7: really what it comes down to. I mean, the DFS 541 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 7: players like to complain and all the gambling guys and 542 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 7: someone as well, But the thing is, these golfers are 543 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 7: going out every single week and they're betting on themselves 544 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 7: and it's just such a cool story and obviously a 545 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 7: huge grind, and I wanted to touch briefly how the 546 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 7: PGA tour is changing from the top seventy to top 547 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 7: sixty five with no MDF role going forward. And Zach 548 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 7: actually reminded me of quote that Paul Casey gave before 549 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 7: basically being on the Players Committee and talking about the 550 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 7: cut role moving from seventy to sixty five to avoid 551 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 7: the threesomes and all the nonsense that goes on on 552 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 7: the weekend, and he said it perfectly. It's a capitalist sport. 553 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 7: That's the reality. These guys are betting on themselves every 554 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 7: single week. I love that. And Zach story is great, 555 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 7: and like you, I'm rooting for him going forward. 556 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: You sort of alluded there to a story that I 557 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: want to get into. And we all know brooks Kepta 558 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 1: one last week it looked fantastic. It was a non major, 559 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: which kind of smashes the narrative of he only wins 560 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: major championships, which is a silly narrative anyway. So good 561 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: to see brooks Kepga win a WGC event. Fifth player 562 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 1: ever to win a WGC major. In the same year 563 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: Rory McElroy for his great as he's been this year, 564 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: has had some final round struggles, but they said you 565 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: alluded to a. 566 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 4: Story during the week. 567 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 1: Maxhoma after the opening round H seventy four, I don't 568 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: believe you made a birdie in that round at the 569 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: WGC in Memphis and had some Twitter criticism, as players 570 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: always do. I mean, I've talked to players about it, 571 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 1: and if you log onto social media, and many of. 572 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 4: Them have just stopped looking at it all together and 573 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 4: let their. 574 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: Agents run it, or let their wives run it or 575 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: somebody else, and they don't even look at it because 576 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: they don't want to deal with all the criticisms. But 577 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: Max Oma looks at Twitter, is very very good on Twitter. 578 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 1: He's one of the best out there as far as 579 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: golfers are concerned. 580 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 4: And he looked at it and said, you. 581 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: Know what, guys, I'm betting on myself. And so if 582 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 1: you guys are betting on me and you don't win, 583 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: are you playing me in fantasy and I don't play? Well, 584 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: guess what, it hurts me a lot more than it 585 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: hurts you. And sleaves this tithing we've talked about on 586 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: the pod before, but it's just still I guess I 587 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: just don't get people being assholes on Twitter. 588 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 3: I just don't understand why they do what they get 589 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:01,239 Speaker 3: from it. 590 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: But we've talked about this before. Some good of the 591 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: of it came after the story. They raised money for charity. 592 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: But speaking as a former player, wouldn't you think of 593 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: that reaction from Max Hooma after forgetting that criticism? 594 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? I think Max handled it beautifully. First it came 595 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 2: out and said, let me be very clear, I don't 596 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 2: give a shit basically if I ruined your fantasy lineup, 597 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 2: like I'm not out here like, oh, whose fantasy lineup 598 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 2: could I ruin this week? And who's twenty bucks? Am 599 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 2: I gonna lose? Like No, it doesn't cross anyone's mind, 600 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 2: and nor should it. But the worst thing about it is, 601 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 2: like I love to play fantasy. Obviously Alvays loved the gamble, 602 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 2: We'd love to play fantasy golf. But to tweet at 603 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 2: a guy after he plays bad and you had him 604 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 2: on your fantasy roster is like the lowest, softest thing 605 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 2: you could do. Like, none of these people that are 606 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 2: tweeting at Max or any of these other tour players whatever, 607 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 2: in their wildest dreams, get in an elevator with one 608 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 2: of these guys and say the same shit. It's just 609 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 2: because they can be anonymous, they can idmyd on the keyboard, 610 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 2: and it's it's the one time that they'll ever get 611 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 2: like direct access to say something to Max or any 612 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 2: other tour player and have them hear them directly, right, 613 00:25:58,359 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 2: And Max is one of the few guys that will 614 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 2: respond onto it. I hate just like you know, I 615 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 2: got buddies that play out there and stuff, and sometimes 616 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 2: I'll see some things people tweet out. I'm like, dude, 617 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 2: get over it. Like you think the guy that missed 618 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 2: the cut by five isn't more pissed off about missing 619 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 2: his fourth consecutive cut in a row than you are 620 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 2: about your fifteen dollars injury or whatever to your fantasy lineup. Like, 621 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 2: lay off people. They're not tweeting you when you're at 622 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 2: work and you have a shitty day and you mess 623 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 2: up a sales call or something like that. Like everyone 624 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 2: fucks up, So just leave him alone. You're gambling. That's 625 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 2: what gambling is. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. When 626 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 2: you lose, don't tweet it. The person that mess you 627 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 2: know that you blame for losing your bets. So I 628 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 2: think it's super soft. Credit to Max though, for how 629 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 2: he handled it a you know, a lot of people 630 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 2: were taking shots and saying all the stupid Twitter shit, 631 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 2: but he ended up turning into a positive. I think 632 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 2: he raised like ten grand for charity that otherwise wouldn't 633 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 2: have been raised, and a lot of people, the people 634 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,479 Speaker 2: that get it rally to his defense and were like 635 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 2: everyone relaxed, you know what I mean, Like this dude's 636 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 2: out here grinding his ass off. And Max has been 637 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 2: very open about, like his struggles in the past two 638 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 2: a lot like Zach just was with us. Zach was 639 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 2: very open about, like he's taking out credit card debt 640 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 2: and stuff like that just to fund his you know, 641 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 2: his career, Max went from one of the best college 642 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 2: players in the United States, like I can't miss kid, 643 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 2: to a guy that at one point during his career 644 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 2: there was questions whether or not he'll ever like he'll 645 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 2: keep playing golf, like he went that low, and so 646 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 2: then he bounces back this year and wins and now 647 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, he has a shitty week in 648 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 2: Memphis and you're like, hey, you suck, you ruin my lineup. 649 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 2: It's like, dude, just relax. Stop tweeting at these guys 650 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 2: when they miss and by the way, when someone plays great, 651 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 2: I see very few tweets congratulating people and being like, hey, 652 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 2: you really made my fantasy lineup this week. It's only 653 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 2: the negative bullshit and that's what Twitter is essentially. But 654 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 2: it's still weak. And but I do think Max handled 655 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 2: it about as well as he could have. 656 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,199 Speaker 1: Peter, do you enjoy harassing people on social media that 657 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:36,479 Speaker 1: don't make money for you. 658 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 7: I've never done that, and I'm not the only guy. 659 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 7: The only guy that I've ever complained about, and it's 660 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 7: more joking is Keegan. Freaking Keegan just totally phoned me 661 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 7: on the weekend. 662 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 6: Getting better at every aspect of my game, and my 663 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 6: game like go out hit it this way that it's 664 00:27:55,119 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 6: it's just not going to come off strong. I hate 665 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 6: ke Bradley. 666 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 7: Keegan has gone, he's had, you know, he's in the 667 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 7: lead and then he misses the cut and like I recognize, 668 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 7: like Slee said, like Kegan has a lot more on 669 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 7: the line, and it's not just the money. Like these 670 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 7: guys have poured so many hours, their heart and soul 671 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 7: into the game of golf and they're judged on their results, 672 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 7: Like there's so much short term variance and so many things, like, 673 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 7: I mean. 674 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 4: We've seen it. 675 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 7: We've played golf with Sleeves is an incredible player, and 676 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 7: I've been around a lot of guys who are just 677 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,239 Speaker 7: amazing golfers and it's just a couple of breaks, and like, 678 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 7: you spend all these hours, all this sweat and tears 679 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 7: into it, and there's so much writing on these events 680 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 7: for the guys that even if you're the highest stakes 681 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 7: gambler or DFS player, like your results are nothing compared 682 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 7: to what these guys are going through. They're betting on themselves. 683 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 7: They play well, they do well, Like that's that's it. 684 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 7: So I think it's absolutely garbage that people can plain. 685 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 7: But the best part about the story is how it 686 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,479 Speaker 7: turned into a positive. I do think there's a lot 687 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 7: of net negative things in social media. But one of 688 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 7: the cool things that we've seen, and you know, the 689 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 7: DFS and gambling world, like some of the most successful 690 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 7: DFS guys have raised millions of dollars for charity. And 691 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 7: seeing Max turn it into a positive and turning that 692 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 7: you know, reaction and all that attention into you know, 693 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 7: money for charity is a great thing. So Keegan, I 694 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:15,719 Speaker 7: love you. He's made me a lot of money too 695 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 7: in certain situations, and I should never complain. It's more 696 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 7: just for the funny content. But I love seeing these 697 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 7: guys being more active on Twitter. I love seeing Max Homa, 698 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 7: jt Eddie pepperroll. A lot of these guys have really 699 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,959 Speaker 7: been very open on Twitter, which I think is a 700 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 7: net good for the game. So yeah, the moral of 701 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 7: the stories, these guys have a lot more on the 702 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 7: line every single week than any Gambler DFS player, and 703 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 7: most of the time the guys that are complaying are 704 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 7: the guys who have five or ten dollars and just 705 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 7: want to bitch and complain about stuff in general. 706 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of. 707 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 2: Timing too, So I think, like these guys, you come 708 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 2: off a tough Friday afternoon, miss the cut by one 709 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 2: or whatever, go back to your hotel, check your phone, 710 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden you got a message from 711 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 2: Birdie Maker six nine six nine, like hey you suck. 712 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 2: You know, like they're on tilt and they're just like, oh, 713 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 2: this isn't the right time, and so they fire something back. 714 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 2: I actually like it when the people fire back, because 715 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 2: sometimes the mob comes to the defense of the players 716 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 2: and kind of embarrasses the person that sent the first shot. 717 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 2: But I think a lot of it is the timing aspect, 718 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. They're already more pissed off 719 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 2: than you are, and then they get some message from 720 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 2: the from the cheap seats, you know, from somebody like hey, 721 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 2: you ruin my you ruin my team, and they're like, 722 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 2: really don't care, and here's why, and which I kind 723 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 2: of like when they go at them. But I think 724 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 2: timing plays a role too. 725 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: Right now, there's someone listening to this spot who has 726 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: just created at Birdie Maker sixty nine sixty nine, who 727 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: hopefully sends sleeves harassing tweets. 728 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 2: That's my pier account that I fired all these guys. 729 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 2: Hey Tony, now you suck. There's people that get it 730 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 2: and people that don't get it, and the very few 731 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 2: that don't get it are the ones that are sending 732 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 2: out these tweets. 733 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 7: We will have Keegan on this pods soon as I 734 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 7: can't I can't wait. He's also Jordan guy too, He's 735 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 7: the man. 736 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna load him up with bad fantasy advice that 737 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: Peter has given over the years, and he's gonna just 738 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: clap back at you the entire time. 739 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 7: The funny thing is, if you look through my history 740 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 7: of DFS lineups, Keegan's probably one of the top five 741 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 7: most played guys because his good golf is just fantasy gold. 742 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 7: It's just other guys when they missed the cut, it's like, 743 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 7: oh that's over. Keegan just breaks your heart. That's the 744 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 7: only reason I've ever had like funny commentary just he's city. 745 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 2: I think you need to tweet at Koucher some of 746 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 2: your thoughts just not on it. I guess I'm after 747 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 2: I you feel maybe an audio clip of that pod 748 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 2: that we had. 749 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 7: If I saw Kocher in person, I think most people 750 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 7: would shy away, but I think there's some genuine criticism, 751 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 7: and I think we need to tell you what. 752 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: Cooch is a good guy. I've known Gooch for a 753 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: long time. I've never in person, had any sort of 754 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: issue with him. Even if you don't like that he 755 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: stiffed the Cabult whatever, He's Cooch and I went out 756 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: for coffee once because we had we had similar natual friends. 757 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: It was sort of like a setup, like, hey, Matt 758 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: started to play well, there's like ten twelve years ago 759 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: Matt started to play well, and you cover golf, you 760 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: guys kind of get to know each other. And we 761 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: were almost like set up on this, like it wasn't 762 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: interviewing him, but we were kind of like get to 763 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: know and we went out to a Starbucks and neither 764 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: one of us really at the time. I drank coffee 765 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: at all and he drank coffee. Like we went out 766 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: for water, Matt or not. 767 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,959 Speaker 2: That's exactly what I would expect him. Max made up 768 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 2: for a couple of cold waters. 769 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 7: I'm sure Cooch is a good guy, but I just 770 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 7: the two can thing. And then not giving Sergio that pot, 771 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 7: that's the just the golf gambler and me, that just 772 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 7: that tilted me. 773 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 2: We got to get a face to face with Peter 774 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 2: and Coucher. 775 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 4: Let's move on before we get ourselves in trouble. Let's 776 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 4: move on to the window championship we got this week. 777 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: We talked to Zach Suger and obviously there is a 778 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: lot on the line this week. This week is the 779 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: major pressure week for a lot of guys who are 780 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: whether you're hovering around that one twenty five number and 781 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: trying to keep your card, whether you are somewhere around 782 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: the seventy number. 783 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 3: You're trying to at. 784 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: Least solidify your place into the second playoff event, and 785 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: maybe some guys r around that thirty number trying into 786 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: the Tour Championship. 787 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 3: There's a lot on. 788 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: Theline this week, and it's kind of the last ditch 789 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: effort to get everything in a row before the three 790 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: event playoff swing starts soon. 791 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 3: So just some thoughts, Peter, just off the bat. 792 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: This is the one that brand Seneker started with a 793 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: fifty nine in the opening round last year and cruise 794 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: to a victory. We've seen Web Simpson play well here 795 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: over the years. Patrick Reid is a guy who has 796 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: won this golf tournament. Any names jumping out at you 797 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: right off the bat that you say, I really. 798 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 4: Like him this week. 799 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 7: I think the biggest story is what Morikawa did with 800 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 7: a win last week, and just by all accounts, seems 801 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 7: like the most genuine, awesome, nice kid. The future of 802 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 7: golf is so bright, and he's just another guy that 803 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 7: just shows how good these guys are getting. And to me, 804 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 7: he's the number one rated player in the field and 805 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 7: I think he has a chance to just be an 806 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 7: absolute superstar. So that's the guy I'm looking at. You know, 807 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 7: when Avelin, Wolf and Morcow are all the three favorites. 808 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 7: You know, a couple of weeks ago, he was the 809 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 7: number one guy for me, and I'm just a huge 810 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 7: believer in his game. So I'm excited to see how 811 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 7: he plays. And I mean, it's incredible what he's been 812 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 7: able to do and what it's like six or seven starts, 813 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 7: he's just he's just steamrolling the fields. He's the guy 814 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 7: that I'm I'm looking at. So that's where I start 815 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 7: at the top. I know Web Simpson and Matzi Amor 816 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 7: and the field and they're right there. But to me, 817 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 7: he's the guy I'm looking at as the favorite, and 818 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 7: I'm very excited to see how he plays this week. 819 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 4: So he's got a name for me. 820 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 2: We can go through some names when we get into 821 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 2: the DFS lineup, which we will build after the bets. 822 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 2: Let's get into some betting. Let's make a little loot. 823 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,919 Speaker 2: I got a name. You guys have heard me mentioned 824 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 2: him before top twenty bet. Who do you think it is? 825 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 4: You only say the same guy every single ll You. 826 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 2: Said that last week. Every week that I've mentioned him, 827 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 2: we have yet to lose on Chez Rev this year, 828 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 2: not one loss. So you give me a lot of 829 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 2: shit last week about oh you only mentioned Chez. Guess 830 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 2: what all he did was beat Gary Woodland by a 831 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 2: bunch and people want a bunch of money. 832 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: Again, it's not because you're good at this, it's because 833 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: he's good at golf. 834 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 2: I mean, if I'm good at picking when he's gonna win, 835 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 2: when he's gonna beat people. 836 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: I know he's played really well this year and you 837 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: basically pick him every week and you win it. 838 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 2: Well, why you should be picking that. That's not my 839 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 2: fault that I'm able to recognize greatness and fine win 840 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 2: a Brazilion. 841 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,280 Speaker 4: Don't give yourself so much credit. 842 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 2: It's mostly me. It's some chess, but it's also identifying. 843 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 2: So that being said, all jokes aside, Chez is one 844 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 2: six plus one sixty. I have the top twenty. I 845 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 2: think with this type of field, that's a pretty good 846 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 2: bet to make. Especially you heard Zach mention what type 847 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 2: of golf course it was? Who it suits? He said, 848 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 2: hitting the fairways is what it's all about. Guess who 849 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 2: it's more fairway than anyone on tour. Chez Rev. I 850 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 2: actually last week was a pretty similar golf course or 851 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 2: in terms of fit. I think he didn't finish as 852 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 2: high as I thought he would twenty something, but I 853 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 2: don't give a shit. All he did was beat Gary Woodland, 854 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 2: so I'd like that. And another guy Peter mentioned briefly, 855 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 2: Victor Hovelin is top top twenty plus money also plus 856 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 2: one twenty. Those two guys have been the guys have 857 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 2: been most successful with this year. But just looking at 858 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 2: those top twenty type bests, those were the two best 859 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,720 Speaker 2: ones that I saw, or that I like the most. 860 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 4: I've heard you mentioned those names before. 861 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 2: Now I'm mind defeated on these guys. Is this the 862 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 2: ultimate curse of all curses? Probably? But you know the 863 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 2: old saying from tin Cup, how long to your rider sucks? 864 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 2: Bucked top. I'm holding onto the horn, so shit, I'll 865 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,399 Speaker 2: keep going if I lose one, all right, cool. 866 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 1: I like to diversify a little bit, so I don't 867 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,359 Speaker 1: like to say the same games week after week after week. 868 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 4: But that said, tough not to like web Simpson. Websimson 869 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 4: has a daughter named Windham. 870 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: Let's just let's just take a second and remember he 871 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 1: named his daughter after the tournament sponsor for this event. 872 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 3: Usually I don't have a whole lot of hard and 873 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 3: fast rules, but usually I have a rule that if 874 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 3: you name your daughter. 875 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 1: After the tournament sponsor. If Jordan Spieth names his firstborn 876 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 1: kid at and T, I will take him to Byron 877 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: Nelson every single year. 878 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 4: So Web Simpsons got a daughter named Windham. 879 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 3: That kind of qualifies him. 880 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 1: Like him, like Sneddecker, really like Patrick Reid this week, 881 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: those are kind of obvious ones. 882 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 8: I think my favorite bet this week top ten, top 883 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,919 Speaker 8: twenty Joaqui Neeman. We remember played really really well, got 884 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 8: into the Open Championship, missed the cut there hasn't played since, 885 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 8: so we might be forgetting about him just a little bit, 886 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,760 Speaker 8: saying yeah, kind of off the radar, just a little 887 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 8: like him a lot in some matchup ats I'm seeing 888 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 8: right now underdog to Charles Howell the third, which I 889 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 8: think is a really good spot for him. I remember 890 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 8: talking to Neman right after he turned pro last year, 891 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 8: asked him what kind of courses fit him suit his game. 892 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: He said, I like treel courses that aren't too long, 893 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 1: where you're going to keep it in play. This should 894 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: be a perfect golf course for Niem. When he was 895 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 1: thirty third here a year ago. So I think a 896 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: much better, more mature player right now than he was. 897 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 4: Peter. 898 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,879 Speaker 3: Get anybody else matchup wise that you're looking at right now. 899 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I like the chess call if you 900 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 7: want to first. For as much hate as we've had 901 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 7: on a couple guys, we've been slipping Chez for years. 902 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 2: Years. If he was losing, though, we would stop. 903 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, Chez is the dot. I mean I would kneel 904 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 7: before Chez rev anytime. I see it so easy, it's 905 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 7: gonna be embarrassing. Yeah, I got I'm embarrassing myself a lot. 906 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 7: Moving on, Abraham Answers, a sleeper that I think is interesting. 907 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 7: We'll get into DFS. He's played better golf than I 908 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 7: think people realize. I'm always on Lucas Glover, one of 909 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 7: the best ball strikers, one of the worst putters. And 910 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 7: then Bud Cawley would be another guy that I think 911 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 7: might be a little underrated coming into this. We'll get 912 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 7: into some other DFS guys. I mean, Aaron Wise is 913 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 7: going to be vallatile. He's a perfect tournament play. Yeah, 914 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 7: Kevin Stream and another Wish Rock member sets up well 915 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 7: for him, so's that's actually curious what you think. I mean, 916 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 7: he's been up and down. I think we want to 917 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 7: catch him when he's playing great, which I don't know 918 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 7: if you can say he's playing great right now, but 919 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 7: I do think this is a good course for him. 920 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, when he's playing well. He is a really really 921 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 2: underrated driver of the golf ball, a really good driver 922 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 2: the golf ball. I think that's why you seen him 923 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 2: have success on golf courses where that is a paramount, 924 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 2: like when he won Valspar. That's a really tough golf 925 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 2: course where you got to hit a lot of fairways. 926 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 2: When he's clicking with that driver, and I haven't looked 927 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 2: at his stats recently to see how he's hitting it, 928 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,359 Speaker 2: he's dangerous with that. He can just hit that thing 929 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 2: as straight as anyone, and he's sneaky, long sneak. If 930 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 2: the fairways have a little bit of bounce to him, 931 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 2: he can move it out there pretty good. So I 932 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 2: don't hate that play at all. In terms of Streelman, 933 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 2: I think I think the narrower, kind of tougher you 934 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 2: make it the better better for him, like a like 935 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 2: a Valspar type of deal. 936 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: A couple of lower level names for you guys, Sebastian 937 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,439 Speaker 1: Munios four finishes of eleventh or better in his last 938 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: eight starts. I'm playing really well, Richie Wrensky super cheap 939 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 1: DFS play. He's made a handful of cuts in a row, 940 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 1: and then shout out to Josh Perry works with us 941 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: at the Action Network. 942 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,800 Speaker 3: He pointed this out and I hadn't really owed to 943 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 3: the numbers. Roger Sloan. 944 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 4: If you're not a. 945 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: Big Roger Sloane guy and haven't been looking it up, 946 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 1: Roger Sloan is absolutely killing it over the last month, 947 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 1: month and a half. So that's another name you want 948 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 1: to look out for. I can absolutely see this being 949 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: a week at least DFS wise where you go. I'm 950 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: leaving two thousand dollars on the table and I'm just 951 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 1: taking guys who basically need it more than some of 952 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 1: the guys at the top and are gonna play well. 953 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 4: I could see this being a week. 954 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 1: Where it's not a star studded leader board, but a 955 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 1: lot of guys who can kind of make their storybook 956 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,879 Speaker 1: dreams come true if they go out and win this week. 957 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,919 Speaker 3: Guys, anything else, any matchups you want to go over. 958 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 2: I want to ask Peter about on a guy that 959 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 2: I mentioned Chez all the time, I haven't taken I 960 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 2: haven't taken this guy in a while. But it's Peter's 961 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 2: favorite player in the field this week, Colin Morikawa and 962 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 2: the reason I mean, I love him for all the reasons, 963 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 2: but the reason I want this matchup is because he's 964 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 2: matched up with Jordan Spieth and they're both minus one 965 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 2: fifteen and god damn it, I've lost probably five bets 966 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 2: in a row against Speed. I've been since remember the 967 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 2: text the text gate that I had with it when 968 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 2: I texted him. I texted him the stuff that was 969 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 2: supposed to go to someone else, and it was really embarrassing. 970 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 6: And all that shit. 971 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 2: I think I've been cursed by the gods, and I have. 972 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 2: I've yet to win a Speed matchup since Riviera, I believe. 973 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 2: But you've got Colin moore Kower over Speed. Peter talked 974 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 2: me into it or talk me out of it. 975 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 7: I mean, that's my favorite bed of the week by 976 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 7: a mile. Oh, I was going to bring that up 977 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 7: here the close Sleez. How many times have I said 978 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 7: to short Speed and it doesn't work out and. 979 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 2: Every time I've lost? Every single time he was. 980 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,880 Speaker 7: Number one strokes game putting three weeks in a row 981 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 7: and we were short him all three weeks. The guy 982 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,839 Speaker 7: is struggling to find any fairway. That's a very tough 983 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 7: course if that's the case, and he's not even winning 984 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,919 Speaker 7: when he's you know, number one strokes game putting, and 985 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,320 Speaker 7: I think, I mean more Cow. You look at his 986 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 7: last finish, his second fourth first, I think more Cow 987 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,839 Speaker 7: is the classest build. It's basically Webb and more Cow 988 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 7: by a lot in the markets right now, which the 989 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 7: next start web Web's an incredible player. This is a 990 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 7: great course. Room Web is so straight up off the tee. 991 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 7: So I mean, I think those are the two clear 992 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,240 Speaker 7: top dogs, and I think Speith is multiple tiers below, 993 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 7: like I prefer, I would take chees reebe straight up. 994 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 2: But of course, of course, dude, if you look at 995 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 2: Markawa's ball striking stats since he turned pro, so the 996 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 2: six events that we reference, he is either winning or 997 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 2: in like the top three of damn near every single 998 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 2: category you can have. Granted, small sample size, I got it, 999 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,919 Speaker 2: But Speif and Markawa theoretically are on the opposite ends 1000 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 2: of the ball striking spectrum right now. And I just like, 1001 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:27,840 Speaker 2: at what point can I get one of these guys 1002 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 2: to be Jordan Speath When Speed's hitting it all over 1003 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,359 Speaker 2: the map, like he made two sevens in the first 1004 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 2: round of WGC, hit another one that bounced off the 1005 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 2: ov fence, stayed in bounds, and he made an unbelievable part. 1006 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 2: I just got to think at some point the magic 1007 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 2: you know, he is the best putter on the planet. 1008 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 2: I'll say that, but like that can only go so 1009 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 2: far until someone shows up and just play, you know, 1010 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 2: matched up against him and just out ball strikes him 1011 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 2: to death. And if Colin Markawa ain't that guy, then 1012 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 2: I don't know who is. 1013 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 7: We've been wrong about Speed in terms of the results 1014 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 7: when we shorted him, and I will say I think 1015 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 7: there's a lot of regression. I think he is the 1016 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,479 Speaker 7: best putter, but it's very hard to be the number 1017 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 7: one strokes putting. 1018 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 1: Uh. 1019 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 7: You know, three weeks in a row against the best 1020 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 7: players in the world, and you hear it on the broadcast, 1021 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 7: you see it out there, you look at his stat 1022 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 7: he doesn't know if it's going left or right. If 1023 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:10,799 Speaker 7: you don't know which way your miss is going, you 1024 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 7: can't eliminate one side of the golf course. And you 1025 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 7: have to play an accuracy course, it's gonna be trouble. 1026 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 7: Like if he's in the trees, it's I mean, I 1027 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 7: don't know, and I couldn't be more bullish. 1028 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 2: Is a big missus And you heard Zach say, like, 1029 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 2: you can't have the big miss there's oh, there's a 1030 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 2: lot of ob on this golf course, Zach said. And 1031 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 2: the trees. It's a tree lined golf course. So if 1032 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 2: you're not, if your ball is doing more than bouncing 1033 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,399 Speaker 2: into the rough, uh, there should be some serious stress. Which, 1034 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 2: by the way, that's how kind of Memphis is as well. 1035 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 2: And he beat me a game last week. 1036 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,720 Speaker 7: So in coming speed making two hundred feet of putts 1037 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 7: like four, yes, yeah. 1038 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 2: I'm gonna turn the TV on Thursday and he's gonna 1039 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 2: be six under through eight. 1040 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 1: I'll be here independent of what you guys have said here. 1041 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 1: I post my column early on Tuesday morning, and I 1042 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,720 Speaker 1: had the big fade for this week at the window 1043 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 1: being Jordan's speed. So I think we're all on board 1044 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 1: with that one. I mentioned my favorite matchup, at least 1045 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 1: the ones I'm looking at right now, Nieman minus one 1046 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:02,760 Speaker 1: oh five against Charles Howell. 1047 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 3: The third I like that one a lot. 1048 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,319 Speaker 1: There's some very good ones here, you know, some good 1049 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 1: matchups really going on. JT post On, who plays really well, 1050 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 1: like like Zach was saying on those Bermuda greens in 1051 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 1: southern courses, the Southern guy up against Brandon Grace, who 1052 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 1: has not had a good year whatsoever, is trying to 1053 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,360 Speaker 1: get his way onto that President's Cup team. I like 1054 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 1: posting a lot this week as well, so I think 1055 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:29,400 Speaker 1: there's smacks from there. 1056 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:35,280 Speaker 5: And now it's time for the super sneaky sleazy pig. 1057 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:39,280 Speaker 2: Of the week this week at I believe sixty seven 1058 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,279 Speaker 2: hundred double check that for me, Ryan Armor, here we go. 1059 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 2: Here's why fourth and driving accuracy this year on tour 1060 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 2: behind Jez Revey, Ryan Moore and Jim Ferrick. Pretty good company. 1061 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 2: So he's also I also like this about him. He's 1062 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 2: always a bubble guy, I feel like, but this this 1063 00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:00,400 Speaker 2: week he's one seventeenth on the FedEx Cups standing, so 1064 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 2: he should be safe. You heard Zach mention like he's 1065 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 2: never heard anyone move nine in the one twenty five 1066 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,840 Speaker 2: to one fifty category. For him to move nine in 1067 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 2: the one one hundred to one twenty five categories, like 1068 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 2: every dude right behind him would have to play really 1069 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,320 Speaker 2: well and he would have to miss the cut. So 1070 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 2: I think he knows that he's safe this week and 1071 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 2: can kind of play with kind of free will it 1072 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 2: out there. But incredible accuracy off the team. Not great 1073 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 2: in greens and rag, but that's because he's short and 1074 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 2: he's normally hitting a lot of longer irons into the greens. 1075 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 2: This week not a not a factor. So I'm going 1076 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:30,919 Speaker 2: Ryan Armors sleazy pick this week. 1077 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 4: Look it. 1078 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 7: He's also sixty nine hundred, which I know you likes. 1079 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,239 Speaker 7: Lee's Oh hello golf for sixty nine. Sixty nine is 1080 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 7: all Burdymaker is all over that herdimaker. 1081 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 4: Sorry, yeah, I like that one. 1082 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 2: You know what. 1083 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 1: And I didn't even mention this guy's name when when 1084 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:45,359 Speaker 1: I was going through some stuff earlier. If we did, 1085 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,880 Speaker 1: for I think we had a one week sobl subtle 1086 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 1: pick and that lasted exactly as long as it should 1087 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 1: have because it should have. 1088 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 4: Got any further than that. 1089 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,360 Speaker 1: But Sipstracker this week. Sipstraca has a third and a 1090 00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 1: twelfth in his last two starts. Another guy who's very 1091 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,880 Speaker 1: familiar with Southern based courses in Bermuda Greens, and it 1092 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,440 Speaker 1: seems like if you look at his record over the 1093 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 1: last couple of years, when he gets hot, he gets 1094 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,719 Speaker 1: really hot. He's not a guy who just puts together 1095 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,839 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of forty fifth place finishes. It's either 1096 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,719 Speaker 1: really good or really not good. And it's going really 1097 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:15,719 Speaker 1: good for him right now. 1098 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 7: He's steamed a ton by the way he's got. He's 1099 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 7: all the way up to seventy to one to win. 1100 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,239 Speaker 7: He started off over one hundred to one to win. 1101 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 7: So markets are betting Stracup big time. 1102 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:25,120 Speaker 2: I think Peter had a. 1103 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,760 Speaker 4: Really good movie because I put him in my column. 1104 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,880 Speaker 4: Probably because I put him on my column. Ever since then, 1105 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 4: all the sharps are reading it. 1106 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 7: You're moving the markets. 1107 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:32,719 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, so, I think you had it best. 1108 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:34,799 Speaker 2: I think with that. Roger Sloan is a good call, dude. 1109 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 2: He's a guy that came up from Canada, really good player. 1110 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,680 Speaker 2: Everyone could see it coming that he was going to 1111 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 2: be a very good player, and he's starting to kind 1112 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 2: of find his find his footing out there on tour. 1113 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 2: I think that was the that would have been a 1114 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 2: very good one as well. You mentioned him. I like 1115 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:48,799 Speaker 2: him a. 1116 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,839 Speaker 1: Lot of lower names that were mentioned. Let's get into 1117 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,879 Speaker 1: this DFS what everyone's been waiting for. 1118 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:54,799 Speaker 4: I'm going to go. 1119 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:56,440 Speaker 1: I'm going to take the first pick. I haven't had 1120 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 1: the first pick in a while. I am anointing myself 1121 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,680 Speaker 1: with the first pick in my first pick in the 1122 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 1: DraftKings lineup, because it would be really embarrassing if we 1123 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,480 Speaker 1: didn't take him this week and he had an awesome 1124 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 1: week du Jax Sucker, Zach's on our team the way 1125 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,759 Speaker 1: you know that interview. I'll take six Zach Suckers and 1126 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,799 Speaker 1: I'll run through a wall for him every single week. 1127 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:16,840 Speaker 4: I want Zach Sucker on our team. 1128 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 2: All Heart squad, Zach Suker, He's He's the captain. Peter, 1129 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,840 Speaker 2: you going next. I mean I'm taking very smart. 1130 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 7: I think Markwa's top ten in the world next year 1131 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 7: for sure. 1132 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 4: WHOA, I am still taking Hoflin long term. 1133 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:30,919 Speaker 2: That's such a hard question, which which of the three 1134 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:35,360 Speaker 2: big young guys and you pick for them. They're all beasts, 1135 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,960 Speaker 2: they're all superstars, like they all hit it good too. 1136 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,239 Speaker 2: There's no like freaky weird. By the way, the thing 1137 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 2: about Marikawa doing what he's done as almost won twice already, 1138 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,279 Speaker 2: be I mentioned all those ball striking sets where he's 1139 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:46,920 Speaker 2: like damn near the best in the world since he 1140 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 2: came on. Since he started playing professionally, his putting has 1141 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,279 Speaker 2: been like average straight stock out. So he's had a 1142 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,480 Speaker 2: runner up and at first not even beating the field 1143 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,400 Speaker 2: like in putting by very much. So that's pretty impressive. 1144 00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 7: Imagine if he puts as well speak this week, how 1145 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,799 Speaker 7: can lose game and just changed it. 1146 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,880 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna go buy committee here, guys, I'm torn 1147 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,480 Speaker 2: on two guys. Okay, there are my two guys I 1148 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 2: already mentioned. I always stick with my guns on my 1149 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,879 Speaker 2: in my mask, them both. Just just take them both. 1150 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 2: Then I'm bad. I'll take Cobland and reve and I'm out. 1151 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,439 Speaker 7: All right, gotta go cheap, gotta go cheap. 1152 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 2: You gotta go low to the earth boys. 1153 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:21,799 Speaker 4: Well, there are a lot of them out there. 1154 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,279 Speaker 2: Yes, I inter just said to see where you guys 1155 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 2: go with these. 1156 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,360 Speaker 4: Here seventy one to fifty per player left. 1157 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 2: There's good value. There's this someone out of this range 1158 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:30,879 Speaker 2: is gonna pop up. 1159 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:31,719 Speaker 4: I think we can. 1160 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 7: Uh, let's go with the sleazy pick, so I'll leave 1161 00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:35,120 Speaker 7: you some money. And there's a guy like at seventy 1162 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,000 Speaker 7: three hundred. Let's go Ryan Armor. I think that's a 1163 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:37,879 Speaker 7: good value at sixty. 1164 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 4: I'm telling you j T. Poston's gonna play well. 1165 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 7: I like posting. And then the guy we didn't talk 1166 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 7: about it at all that I've been on this year 1167 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 7: that I think is a screaming value, especially at this course, 1168 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 7: is Von Taylor. M Yes, Von Taylor's been good. 1169 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,160 Speaker 2: Colly is fantastic and has a huge talent. Hasn't been 1170 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 2: driving it well this year is one thing that he's 1171 00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,200 Speaker 2: not doing well. If this is the best for he 1172 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,520 Speaker 2: says he's been missing it both ways and big. But 1173 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,719 Speaker 2: uh that Vaughan. I like that, Vaughn. Who do we ca? 1174 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,440 Speaker 1: Also right there sleeves your boy Wyndham Clark whose name 1175 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:10,400 Speaker 1: happens to be Wyndham. 1176 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,400 Speaker 2: That's a hard one to pass up on. Although he 1177 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,640 Speaker 2: does miss and he hits it four hundred yards and 1178 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 2: misses by four hundred yards. Also, he's gonna win on 1179 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,279 Speaker 2: tour and he's gonna be around for forever. This one 1180 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,480 Speaker 2: ain't the spot. I don't think I'm going j T. 1181 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,480 Speaker 3: Poston unless you guys have a huge problem with it. 1182 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:24,160 Speaker 2: No, I like that. 1183 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:28,560 Speaker 1: Let's run through Ryan Armor, Victor Hovelin, Colin Morikawa, J 1184 00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:30,120 Speaker 1: T Postin, Chaz. 1185 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 4: Reeve, Zach Suker. That's a hell of a lineup right there. 1186 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:33,400 Speaker 2: I really like squad. 1187 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:34,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's good squad. 1188 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,080 Speaker 2: If any of them suck, expect a vicious tweak from 1189 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 2: Birdie Maker six nine sixty nine that that handle deserves 1190 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 2: to exist. Guys. 1191 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,160 Speaker 1: By the way, one last one sixteen to one Shan 1192 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,840 Speaker 1: Shan Finn this week at the Women's British Open bank it. 1193 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,080 Speaker 2: Oh, there you go. Solope was always coming with these 1194 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:56,279 Speaker 2: obscure international there's no was it a major? But we 1195 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:57,600 Speaker 2: never talked about it on here. 1196 00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 4: Well, I think that's our fault. 1197 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 1: We need equality and we need to talk equal time 1198 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:04,839 Speaker 1: about the women's game. 1199 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,279 Speaker 7: By the way, let's get out of the let's get 1200 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 7: out of here on this because I saw this stat. 1201 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,319 Speaker 7: I'm just curious what you guys think. I saw the 1202 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,279 Speaker 7: aggregate putting from all the PGA Tour professionals. I think 1203 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 7: it is over like a three year sample size. At 1204 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,920 Speaker 7: how many feet does the average PGA tour player start 1205 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,640 Speaker 7: having the putts per that foot being over to So 1206 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:28,200 Speaker 7: for example, over nine feet, they're one putting fifty percent 1207 00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 7: of the time and then they're two putting basically other times. 1208 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,239 Speaker 7: So it's like a one point five average. When does 1209 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,840 Speaker 7: it become two point zero or higher? How many feet? 1210 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:40,280 Speaker 2: Oh, dude, four, I'm going to say four. I'm gonna 1211 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,440 Speaker 2: say I will say. 1212 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:46,480 Speaker 7: Fifty thirty five feet boys, But the amazing stat is 1213 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,000 Speaker 7: at sixty feet they're only three putting twenty three percent 1214 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:49,439 Speaker 7: of the time. 1215 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,200 Speaker 2: And the amazing stat is that at thirty five feet, 1216 00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:53,400 Speaker 2: speF makes. 1217 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,879 Speaker 7: Those Yeah, Speth is making everyone somehow. These guys are 1218 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,040 Speaker 7: so good around the greens and on the greens. That's 1219 00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,640 Speaker 7: to me the biggest difference between the PGA Tour players 1220 00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 7: and then the next tier Web dot Com, et cetera. 1221 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,239 Speaker 1: Time to wrap this up, fellas, is a long one 1222 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,960 Speaker 1: and uh it's put a good one though, Zach Suker again, 1223 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 1: thank you so much to Zach for coming on. 1224 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 2: We all wish him a. 1225 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:15,200 Speaker 4: Ton of luck this week. 1226 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 1: We've got him in our lineup now, so you guys 1227 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,040 Speaker 1: know what to do if he doesn't have a good week. 1228 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,680 Speaker 1: We will all yell at him on social media, just 1229 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,080 Speaker 1: like all the good trolls are supposed to do every 1230 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:25,800 Speaker 1: single time. 1231 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:27,360 Speaker 4: I'm sure he will love. 1232 00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,799 Speaker 3: And appreciate that now, I kid, I kid, I kid. 1233 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:34,400 Speaker 1: Never do that, folks, never yell at your players bad karma, 1234 00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,799 Speaker 1: amongst many many other things. Guys, for Peter Jennings and 1235 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 1: for Drew Stoltzek the sleeves I've been Jason Sobel. 1236 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,240 Speaker 3: This has been our Action Network podcast. 1237 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:57,719 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, and good luck to everybody this week