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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe.

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Speaker 2: Gatty, Armstrong and Getty and he Armstrong and Getty Strong and.

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Speaker 3: Came across a fantastic think piece by a fellow by

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Speaker 3: the name of Tom Klingenstein about DEI in the United

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Speaker 3: States Military. And I've heard various folks, including some of served,

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Speaker 3: talk about how it's hurt readiness, and I believed it,

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Speaker 3: but I've never heard it fleshed out this well. And

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Speaker 3: I wish we had hours and hours, because I'd love

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Speaker 3: to read the whole thing and discuss it with you.

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Speaker 2: But his point that is.

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Speaker 3: Quite eloquently made, and we'll post it at Armstrong and

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Speaker 3: Getty dot under hotlinks, is that.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 3: He writes, the military is often perceived by well meaning

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Speaker 3: Americans as the last holdout in the progressive march through

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Speaker 3: the institutions. In reality, however, it was among the first

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Speaker 3: American institutions to formally embrace the radical logic of group quotas.

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Speaker 3: And he talks about the difference between civilian society and

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Speaker 3: milliate military society in its values, in its training, in

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Speaker 3: its social norms, and why they're so important, and how

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Speaker 3: DEI is utterly incompatible with the cultural norms that have

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Speaker 3: underpinned every military in the history of time, discipline, sacrificing

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Speaker 3: oneself to the unit, everyone being the same, your only identity,

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Speaker 3: as I'm a member of this unit. It's very, very

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Speaker 3: well written, and it's made me all the more dedicated

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Speaker 3: to stamping out this radical ideology wherever it happens. I

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Speaker 3: was encouraged to see again editorial in New York and

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Speaker 3: The New York Times pointed out by fabulous frequent correspondent

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Speaker 2: We need a new approach.

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Speaker 3: It's by a couple of academics from Stanford Law and

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Speaker 3: Stanford University, and they write it in a way that

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Speaker 3: is they are lefties approaching lefties. So it's fairly gentle

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Speaker 3: about how the DEI programs that exist on campuses are

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Speaker 3: not quite what they purport to be and don't really

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Speaker 3: achieve what they've said they should achieve, pointing out the

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Speaker 3: rampant anti Semitism on all of these enlightened campuses.

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Speaker 2: And again it's it's very well written and I'd love

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Speaker 4: On it, and anti Asian bias, which we'll get to

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, And we could certainly get into the

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Speaker 3: report that just came out from Columbia University about how

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Speaker 3: miserable failure Dei has been in rooting out anti Semitism there,

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Speaker 3: and he gets into the I'm sorry, these two academics

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Speaker 3: get into the rigidity of these programs and how and again,

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Speaker 3: this is not a revelation to us at all. They

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Speaker 3: don't seem to actually be about diversity, equity and inclusion,

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Speaker 3: whatever those things mean. They seem to be rigidly enforcing

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Speaker 3: a particular point of view, and they seem to just

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Speaker 3: want to see the power at the universities. Well, welcome

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Speaker 3: to enlightenment, my friend. But what was interesting was, and

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Speaker 3: this is what Paolo, the service Paolo provided, which I

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Speaker 3: appreciate very much, he says, more interesting than the article

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Speaker 3: are the generally pretty solidly left New York Times reader's comments.

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Speaker 3: If you view the reader's picks, meaning the comments on

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Speaker 3: sort of thing, you'll see that they are all critical

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Speaker 3: is perfectly can be even helpful to ask me to

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Speaker 3: examine my values and beliefs for racism and sexism. But

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Speaker 3: it's not fine to assign me the category of a

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Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. How about this one.

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Speaker 3: As a black immigrant from Africa, the idea that groups

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Speaker 3: All races and genders have issues because we're all human beings.

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Speaker 3: I've received far more discrimination in Africa on the basis

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Speaker 2: And he goes down that line for a while. As

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Speaker 2: that's ever made me consider voting Republican is having to

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Speaker 2: write diversity statements for a university job. It's a blatant

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Speaker 2: tool of discrimination and everyone knows it.

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Speaker 3: A couple one more quick one. As a professor at

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Speaker 3: they must feel that they belong. For a minority student

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Speaker 3: it's tough to feel like you belong's. Uh, this guy,

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Speaker 3: As you finally get to the point, Oh, it's that

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Speaker 3: socializing with peers, involvement in student groups, for participating with

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Speaker 3: Not being set into camps and set against each other.

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Speaker 2: That's the opposite of what works.

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Speaker 3: So, as I've said many times, this is not the

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Speaker 3: beginning of the end of this neo Marxist garbage. It's

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Speaker 3: this isn't about diversity or equity, which is communism or

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Speaker 3: inclusion at all. They just want to take control of

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Speaker 4: The racial breakdown at colleges. Maybe you saw this headline.

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Speaker 4: I saw the initial headline over the weekend after Supreme

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Speaker 4: Court ruling against affirmative action. Black acceptance to MIT drops

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Speaker 4: ten percentage points, and they presented it only that way.

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Speaker 4: I think it was The New York Times had it,

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Speaker 2: Horror that happened.

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Speaker 4: Sich Lowry actually wrote in The New York Post yesterday

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Speaker 4: A spike in Asian Americans who were admitted to MIT,

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Speaker 4: who you can only assume were not getting in even

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Speaker 2: So the whole numbers on that.

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Speaker 4: So MIT is the first top level college to release

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Speaker 4: whoever else. But MIT released its first post affirmative action

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Speaker 4: admissions number for the incoming class since the Supreme Court

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Speaker 4: ruled the affirmative action in these universities is wrong, and

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Speaker 4: the percentage of Asian American students increased from forty to

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Speaker 4: forty seven percent the first year are the first opportunity

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Speaker 4: to have, you know, merit based admissions. Black students dropped

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Speaker 4: either the MIT admissions office has been somehow infiltrated by

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Speaker 4: or they were working to keep out meritorious Asian American

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Speaker 4: applicants all these years, people that deserve to be in

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Speaker 4: the school and weren't allowed in because they weren't the

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Speaker 2: What could be more racist than that.

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Speaker 3: Well, and to take a step back to I think

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Speaker 3: the greater and more important issue is now that we

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Speaker 3: there's a huge incidence of that the kids who are

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Speaker 2: You're not going to read that in the mainstream media,

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Speaker 3: Instead of papering over the question of okay, why is

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Speaker 3: about kindergarten. Let's look at first grade through eighth grade.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about middle school and high school and the

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Speaker 3: rest of it. Let's address causes as opposed to these

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Speaker 3: affirmative action at the end programs that enable a people

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Speaker 3: who are profiting from this, the teachers' unions and don't

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Speaker 3: want to solve the problems, and b society that's uncomfortable

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Speaker 3: talking about it. Why do black kids underachieve if you

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Speaker 3: don't paper over the process at the end, you're forced

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Speaker 3: to reckon with the problem at the beginning. And that's

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Speaker 3: why I like these problems as somebody who's not trying

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Speaker 3: to take over universities through my DEI critical thinking or

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Speaker 3: I'm not critical thinking, critical theory, neo Marxism.

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Speaker 2: I actually care about little black kids.

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Speaker 4: So a doke researchers expecting similar results in other Ivy

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Speaker 4: League schools this fall a big increase for Asian American students,

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Speaker 4: white students staying about flat, and then a substantial drop

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Speaker 4: it's the same experience California had when the state passed

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Speaker 4: the anti Affirmative Action proposition in two thousand and nine,

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Speaker 4: I mean two o nine. Back in ninety six, Asian

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Speaker 4: So you can't claim it's white supremacy or white power

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Speaker 4: And this is my favorite part of it. There isn't

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Speaker 4: who all have the same backgrounds and attitudes. The category

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Speaker 4: of Asian American includes people from countries that hate each

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Speaker 4: other and always have people from countries that have little

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Speaker 2: Got nothing to do with each other. Some cases hate

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Speaker 4: They've killed each other by the hundreds of thousands in

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Speaker 4: brutal ways. It's not like some monolithic group like you

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Speaker 3: Well, and you've got to drop your preconceptions too about

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Speaker 3: elite universities and such. I tell you what, here at

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Speaker 3: Joe's second tier university, you're gonna learn a hell of

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Speaker 3: a lot. You're gonna drink some beer and get laid.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be great at the superachiever universities will be

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Speaker 3: for superachievers.

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Speaker 2: And that's fine.

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Speaker 3: And I remind you of the fact that generally speaking,

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Speaker 2: As the old saying goes, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad you mentioned that, because Rich Lowry did end

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Speaker 4: with as for students who would have been admitted under

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Speaker 4: the old racialized system. It's not like they'll have no future.

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Speaker 4: If they end up at a good state school somewhere, you'll

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Speaker 4: be absolutely perfectly fine. If you're good to ed her off.

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Speaker 4: Probably yeah, very good chance you will be better off.

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Speaker 4: But the idea that your life is ruined or something

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Speaker 4: like that's insane. Took us a long time to get here.

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Speaker 3: These affirmative action programs exist in large measure to prevent

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Speaker 3: us from considering the uncomfortable and difficult questions of black underachievement.

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Speaker 2: I believe that to my bone. That's really interesting.

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Speaker 1: The Armstrong and Getty Show, Yea or Jack or Shoe

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Speaker 5: The Armstrong and Getty Show.

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Speaker 3: Oh here's how money actually works.

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Speaker 2: Seven dollars beautiful? Are you about to say something?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So we're gonna do the one on one class

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Speaker 3: understanding the basics of economics, which is a fairly rare

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Speaker 3: thing in today's world, which is highly discouraging. But first

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Speaker 3: to ta give credit because this is really well written.

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Speaker 3: Matthew Hennessy in the Wall Street Journal is talking about

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Speaker 3: the fellows in Oasis, the British rock band which is

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Speaker 3: getting back together.

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Speaker 2: Wonderwall. He gets back, he.

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Speaker 3: Gets into some of the backstory, the Gallagher brothers who

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Speaker 3: point of view, and a lot of journalists are young

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Speaker 3: these days because it doesn't pay very well.

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Speaker 2: But there is such a lack of wisdom.

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Speaker 3: If I have a fun, rewarding, joyful job and I

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Speaker 3: get the summer off, I would accept that rate of

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Speaker 3: pay at X. If I have a miserable, discouraging, heartbreaking job,

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to work for that.

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Speaker 2: Low level of pay. I'm gonna want a hell of a.

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Speaker 3: Lot more to keep showing up very good point, student

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Speaker 3: behavior problems, cell phones in class, anemic pay that's not

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Speaker 3: really true, and artificial intelligence powered cheating are taking their

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Speaker 3: toll on America's roughly three point eight million teachers. On

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Speaker 3: top of the bruising pandemic years the Sheriff. Teachers who

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Speaker 3: say the stress and disappointments of the job are worth

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Speaker 3: it has fallen twenty one points in the last couple

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Speaker 3: of years.

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Speaker 2: Doubt that. As recently as twenty eighteen, over seventy percent

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Speaker 2: of teachers said the stress was worth it. Now it's

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Speaker 2: forty two.

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Speaker 4: In surveys and interviews, teachers are most any place you work,

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Speaker 4: as they is, they layered in more administration to wherever

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Speaker 4: you work. Did that make things more enjoyable or less enjoyable?

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Speaker 4: Where you work well?

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Speaker 3: And we're going to get to the you know, it's

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Speaker 3: more than frustration, it's being physically at risk. In surveys

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Speaker 3: and interviews, teachers are most often pointing to a startling

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Speaker 3: rise in students' mental health challenges and misbehavior as the

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Speaker 3: biggest drivers of burnout. In the Rand Corporation survey, student

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Speaker 3: behavior was the top source of teachers job stress.

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Speaker 4: A lot of that, I guarantee you is that whole

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Speaker 4: restorative justice thing where they have no ability to deal

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Speaker 4: with it.

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Speaker 2: That's the next sentence.

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Speaker 3: You're absolutely right to quote a high school math teacher

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Speaker 3: who says he saw student behavior deteriorate seriously, let yet

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Speaker 3: his school drew more lenient in administrating administering consequences.

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Speaker 4: How is the country not aware of what a failure

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Speaker 4: this restorative justice thing is.

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Speaker 2: I know because nobody talks about it in the media.

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Speaker 3: And this poor son of a gun, So he's dealing

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Speaker 3: with all this frustration and then his district, Kansas City

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Speaker 3: Public Schools, shout out Kansas City, The Great Cities were

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Speaker 3: a privilege to be on. They rolled out a new

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Speaker 3: policy last year. Teachers could not give students a zero

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Speaker 3: for an assignment even if they didn't turn it in

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Speaker 3: and didn't make any effort.

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Speaker 2: To It is to laugh. I mean, that is so funny.

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Speaker 2: It is funny. It is hilarious. So say that again.

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Speaker 2: You can't get a.

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Speaker 3: Zero even if even if you say, not only did

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Speaker 3: I not do the assignment, mister Gerald, you should shove

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Speaker 3: it up your armors. He cannot give you a zero

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Speaker 3: for that assignment. You've got to get at least like

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Speaker 3: a C. A C one of the things I got

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Speaker 3: when I got into teaching. My one thing was about

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Speaker 3: learning and love of learning, he says. In the end,

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Speaker 3: it was less about the learning and more about babysitting.

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Speaker 3: He left teaching this summer oh yeah, yeah, yeah, And

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Speaker 3: they go into a great deal of detail with many,

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Speaker 3: many examples of classroom stress and violence, lack of consequences

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Speaker 3: for bad behavior, a storative justice.

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Speaker 4: I mean, look it up, well, don't look it up,

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Speaker 4: because their description of it won't be accurate as to

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Speaker 4: what actually happens.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 4: It is the recipe for no discipline and a bullies paradise.

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Speaker 2: It is, it is.

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Speaker 3: It is tragic for the children and the teachers, and

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Speaker 3: it's part of oh yeah, absolutely true, and it's one

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Speaker 3: hundred percent part of the neo Marxist We're going to

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Speaker 3: break the system. We're going to call everything racist until

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Speaker 3: we control it. And they do control the schools to

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Speaker 3: a large extent now, and anybody who stands in our

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Speaker 3: way will call them a racist until we have imposed

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Speaker 3: our philosophy on whatever institution you're talking about, from public

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Speaker 3: schools to corporations, to the United States government to the

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Speaker 3: military for instance.

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Speaker 4: By the way, in Kansas City, we're on FM, so

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Speaker 4: people can really enjoy our pipes.

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Speaker 2: I have nothing to add to that, you know, and

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Speaker 2: I don't know to the clock.

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Speaker 3: I came across another account a number of school districts

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Speaker 3: in oh it was Virginia and one other state in

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Speaker 3: which far fewer than half of the children were at

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Speaker 3: the minimum level in English, and it was less than

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Speaker 3: a third in district after district were not at the

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Speaker 3: minimum level for math. We sometimes talk about proficiency. This

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Speaker 3: was the well the minimum and the vast majority kids

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Speaker 3: are nowhere near it. And if you say I got

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Speaker 3: to get my kid out of this school, the forces

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Speaker 3: of the left, from Joe Biden, Kamala Harrison down will

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Speaker 3: tell you you're a racist for some reason. B you're

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Speaker 3: attacking public schools, trying to take resources away.

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Speaker 2: You're a bad person and a bad parent. It's crazier

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Speaker 2: that this is a bigger issue. It is. It absolutely

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Speaker 2: is arm strong.

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Speaker 5: The armstrong and getting shot.

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Speaker 2: We got this text out of nowhere.

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Speaker 4: Do you know why hippies were Petulia oil so blind

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Speaker 4: people can hate them too?

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's that's beautiful. Here's your freedom loving quote of

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Speaker 2: the day.

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Speaker 3: Our beloved listeners sent to this to us next.

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Speaker 2: To a big picture of Captain America.

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Speaker 3: And U and it was Captain America saying this and

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Speaker 3: I understand this is a speech he gives to buck

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Speaker 3: up Spider Man. At one point during the movies, and

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Speaker 3: I thought, boy, this is really eloquent for one of

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Speaker 3: your one of your comic book movies. Did the script

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Speaker 3: write or write write this? And I did a little digging,

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Speaker 3: and no, it's actually a very very close paraphrase of

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Speaker 3: something Mark Twain said.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, but I liked it.

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Speaker 3: So much I posted it up in the studio so

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Speaker 3: I could glance at it now and again. I will

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Speaker 3: give you the Twain version, which is only subtly different.

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Speaker 2: As opposed to Captain America.

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Speaker 4: Okay, it does lend it a little more gravitas.

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Speaker 3: Well, unless you're fighting off a mob, then I'd rather

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Speaker 3: have the Captain on my side than the scribe. Honestly

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Speaker 3: love Captain America kicks ass. Twain incredibly eloquent. Captain America

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Speaker 3: definitely stronger on the whoop ass front.

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Speaker 4: If you're fighting the Winter Soldier, you want Captain America,

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Speaker 4: not Mark Twain.

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Speaker 3: I agree completely. Anyway, here's what Twain said. It's a

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Speaker 3: little long, but I love it so much. Maybe we

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Speaker 3: could work in a little email later on. Let men

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Speaker 3: label you as they may. If you alone, of all

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Speaker 3: the nation, decide one way, and that way be the

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Speaker 3: right way, by your convictions of the right. You've done

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Speaker 3: your duty by yourself and by your country, holding up

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Speaker 3: your head, for you have nothing to be ashamed of.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter what the press said, it doesn't matter

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Speaker 3: what the politicians or the mobs say. It doesn't matter

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Speaker 3: if the whole country decides that something wrong is something right.

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Speaker 3: Republics are founded on one principle above all else, the

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Speaker 3: requirement that we stand up for what we believe in,

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Speaker 3: no matter the odds or the consequences. When the mob

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Speaker 3: and the press and the whole world tell you to move,

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Speaker 3: your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside

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Speaker 3: the river of truth and tell the whole world, no,

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Speaker 3: you move. Mark fing Twain, that's you, people understand, that's

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Speaker 3: his middle name.

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Speaker 4: That's really good stuff if it's the right cause or thing.

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Speaker 4: Interestingly enough, and maybe I'll explain later why.

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Speaker 2: This has happened.

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Speaker 4: I was listening to a speech last night FBI recordings

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Speaker 4: of Jim Jones down Guyana, before he had all those

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Speaker 4: people kill themselves, the Jim Jones cult, that whole thing.

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Speaker 4: He gave a very similar speech there as he had

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Speaker 4: convinced all those numb nuts that the world was out

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Speaker 4: to get them and they were doing the right thing.

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Speaker 2: Very funny preach. I had no idea you'd heard that.

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Speaker 3: I knew in my heart of hearts you would come

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Speaker 3: up with some counter argument against that thought.

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Speaker 2: I'm not it.

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Speaker 4: It just you just have to have you just have

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Speaker 4: to just you know, it works when the cause is right.

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Speaker 3: Right, But that's irrelevant as an as an observation of society.

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Speaker 3: It's one hundred percent correct as a principle. That some

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Speaker 3: people employ it wrongly is irrelevant, right, I think it's

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Speaker 3: a moral principle.

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Speaker 2: Both are true. Isn't that a head scratcher? It is anyway?

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Speaker 3: Mailbag drop Snow would your mail bag at Armstrong and

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Speaker 3: Getty dot com. Oh madd in Honolulu with a really

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Speaker 3: interesting note about the Honolulu getaway pad that those Chinese

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Speaker 3: spies who'd infiltrated New York's government pad. But his sign

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Speaker 3: off is he says, are one more thing yesterday on

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Speaker 3: price controls and gouging should be mandatory listening to graduate

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Speaker 3: from high school.

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Speaker 2: I would thank you for the kind words.

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Speaker 3: You can grab that wherever you like to get podcasts

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Speaker 3: Armstrong and Getty.

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Speaker 2: One more thing, you know, listen to it out again.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of counterintuitive price gouging is a good thing and

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Speaker 4: that and it makes perfect economic sense.

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Speaker 2: Listen to the One More Thing.

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Speaker 3: Podcast, and it's the best thing that can happen for

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Speaker 3: poor people. Yeah, let's see. Wow, what a contrast, writes

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Speaker 3: Joe and Ventura, California. Noticed this on my local freeway

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Speaker 3: off ramp.

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Speaker 2: Winner and loser.

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Speaker 3: There is a young man appears to be of immigrants,

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Speaker 3: stock selling bouquets of flowers to cars whoever want some

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Speaker 3: flowers on the way home, and there's a scumbag junkie begging.

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Speaker 4: Right right, that's a good one. That's a good one.

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Speaker 4: You got people there on the corner. This happens driving

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Speaker 4: out to the farm. When I go home, sometimes you

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Speaker 4: got people on the corner selling strawberries, usually a whole

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Speaker 4: family in the h hot sun, set up their table,

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Speaker 4: got their you know, station wagon there selling strawberries.

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Speaker 2: You got people just begging on the street. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's all I see.

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Speaker 4: The people that are working their ass off sitting there

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Speaker 4: in the sun selling the strawberries.

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Speaker 2: Can't have much respect for the beggar on the street,

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Speaker 2: he says.

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Speaker 3: Wouldn't it be ironic if this was a planned social

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Speaker 3: science experiment to see what kind of reactions could be

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Speaker 3: listened from the drivers? I admit I was guilty of

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Speaker 3: making my opinion known A big thumbs up to the

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Speaker 3: winner and down to the loser.

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Speaker 2: Care to put your own caption on this photo? Well, thanks, Joe.

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Speaker 2: That's interesting.

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Speaker 4: It's also interesting that if you ask Alexa about Kamala Harris,

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