Speaker 1: Carola. She's a queen of talking. He was son. She's
Speaker 1: on the side. You got the scoop on side. No
Speaker 1: one can do with Caral Carola. No one can do
Speaker 1: with quiet Caroline. This timple Caroline. You know when you
Speaker 1: meet people and you just immediately connect with them and
Speaker 1: you're just so vibing on the same level, and you're
Speaker 1: going for the same things and you speak the same language. Well,
Speaker 1: that is how I feel with Sarah and Alyssa. Sarah
Speaker 1: Davidson and I have been friends for years, almost a decade.
Speaker 1: We went to college together at Belmont. We have grown
Speaker 1: so much as people and friends, and I absolutely am
Speaker 1: in all of her heart. The way she thinks about things,
Speaker 1: the way she chooses to view things that come into
Speaker 1: her life that may be bad per se, but she
Speaker 1: always spins them and makes them a lesson and a blessing.
Speaker 1: She blows my mind. And Alyssa Rosenheck is a new
Speaker 1: friend of mine who I have just fallen in love
Speaker 1: with immediately. She's an incredible photographer. She shoots interiors of
Speaker 1: houses that are absolutely mind blowing. They will take your
Speaker 1: breath away. And the way that she approaches life and
Speaker 1: the world with her heart and her soul. She is
Speaker 1: so connected, so tuned in. This conversation is about influencing,
Speaker 1: but it's about influencing from your soul and using your
Speaker 1: calling to make your life's purpose become your work. And
Speaker 1: it's absolutely inspiring. I hope that you love this interview
Speaker 1: as much as I loved having it. Alyssa Rosenheck and
Speaker 1: Sarah Davidson here to rock your souls. Man, what up, babes?
Speaker 1: What's up? Oh? I'm just here with all of the
Speaker 1: two most fabulous Alyssa Rosenheck and Sarah if it's in
Speaker 1: two of my favorite y'all are so much more than
Speaker 1: like bloggers. This is an influencer series. Y'all are influencers
Speaker 1: in such your own way, and not only influencing with
Speaker 1: style and home design and all sorts of things, but
Speaker 1: you're influencing with your positivity, and I think that is
Speaker 1: really the greatest of all. Thank you. You bring the
Speaker 1: light every day well. I try to gather with people
Speaker 1: who are light shiness as well, because I feel like
Speaker 1: it only makes things brighter. You know, I'm very used
Speaker 1: to something about that on your instant story the other day.
Speaker 1: You are both really good at posting inspirational stuff on
Speaker 1: your answer stories. Well, I try first of all, you know,
Speaker 1: things get tough, and so I try to share the
Speaker 1: things that really work for me, and then I share
Speaker 1: them and put them out into the world. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: what are things that have worked for you? Oh? Man? Um,
Speaker 1: really starting with positive intentions every day and being peaceful
Speaker 1: and having focus and really capturing the things that are
Speaker 1: priorities and going back to basics like not letting all
Speaker 1: the hype kind of you know, get you and just
Speaker 1: you know, maintain focus, staying peaceful. Sarah Ne were talking
Speaker 1: about this. We're in Alissa's house right now, and it
Speaker 1: feels like peace. Like it's if the words the word
Speaker 1: piece had a house, this would be it. Write that.
Speaker 1: Sarah just released your music today today. What's the name
Speaker 1: of it? Pretty much love you? Pretty much love you
Speaker 1: because you're writing about us a video and I was like,
Speaker 1: because I pretty much love all of y'all. But no, honestly,
Speaker 1: I genuinely do, and that's sort of my I'm an
Speaker 1: independent artist. So um, this music that I that I've
Speaker 1: released and I will be releasing over the next four
Speaker 1: weeks is a little less I mean, it's very the
Speaker 1: intention is love. They're more stories sort of from the
Speaker 1: past couple of years of my life. But as an artist,
Speaker 1: that's really what I want to do, just compel people
Speaker 1: to love, to question their beliefs, to question where they
Speaker 1: stand on certain things, to question their judgments, and to
Speaker 1: provoke people to think and to provoke people to love.
Speaker 1: It's such a gift you have. I downloaded it quickly.
Speaker 1: I listened to the first like ten seconds and it's
Speaker 1: it's amazing. Thank you. And you've been on such a
Speaker 1: journey with your music career. So tell me how you've
Speaker 1: ended up here Because you came to Nashville being like
Speaker 1: hot off the press, country music star all that way.
Speaker 1: I mean you literally have You've had record deals, you've
Speaker 1: had a TV show, you've had it all. You've had
Speaker 1: it all. So tell me how you've ended up here
Speaker 1: musically and what your journey has looked like. Gosh, okay, so,
Speaker 1: and how you've got into this positivity light space. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's a long question. I'd like to tell you everything
Speaker 1: I want you to answer. Then you just roll um,
Speaker 1: assuming that we only are seeing we only have an hour. Basically,
Speaker 1: guys are moving in. Yeah, I moved to Nashville. You know,
Speaker 1: when I was twenty years old, sort of like without intention,
Speaker 1: like I want to be a star, I want to
Speaker 1: write music. I want to, you know, be known like
Speaker 1: so stadiums, you know that whole thing I known. I
Speaker 1: always wanted to be known. Yeah, but it wanted to
Speaker 1: be known really, yes, but it was in a different way.
Speaker 1: I feel like now. I actually was listening to Oprah
Speaker 1: Super Soul and I don't it was who wrote Love Warrior,
Speaker 1: Ohlendon Doyle, Glendon Doyle, and she was talking about how
Speaker 1: she really just wants to be known. And it's in
Speaker 1: not in an egotistical way, in like a real way.
Speaker 1: And I think at that time in my life earlier on,
Speaker 1: it was it was it was like I have to
Speaker 1: be famous. It was almost like this validate your yeah,
Speaker 1: to validate my worth. And so you know, record I
Speaker 1: love people. I listened over here and she's like, no,
Speaker 1: I've been common people forever. She's like, I've already known
Speaker 1: this ship for a long time. Um, but yeah, so
Speaker 1: you know, in and out of record deals. Um, you
Speaker 1: got my first record deal about a year and a
Speaker 1: half after I went to Town, and I was a
Speaker 1: part of this reality show that ended up not doing anything.
Speaker 1: It wasn't really a main character in it, but it
Speaker 1: was gonna be a big deal on CBS and all
Speaker 1: sorts of stuff, or maybe Fox. The first one was
Speaker 1: on Fox. Yeah, and then UM, you know, ended up
Speaker 1: getting married to another songwriter in Nashville, and UM just
Speaker 1: kind of living that Nashville life, you know, writing music.
Speaker 1: I was assigned to EMA then Sony at the time
Speaker 1: or you know, I was purchased by Sony and um
Speaker 1: then ended up doing another reality show and that was
Speaker 1: kind of about how I was married and I was
Speaker 1: in a position that I where I didn't necessarily have
Speaker 1: to go out and hit the pavement as as a
Speaker 1: new artist and work my music, but I wanted to
Speaker 1: because I am that passionate about my music. UM, and
Speaker 1: I think still at the time, it was kind of
Speaker 1: like that, you have to prove something, you have to
Speaker 1: be something, and UM, So anyways, I ended up doing
Speaker 1: the show. I ended up going through a divorce. Like
Speaker 1: while I was on the show. The way you've handled
Speaker 1: your divorce though, is so glassy and fascinating, fascinating. I agree.
Speaker 1: It's explaining me why you think it's fascinating, because I
Speaker 1: do too. I just think there's so much transparency and
Speaker 1: courage behind your story and now where you are today,
Speaker 1: I think it's filled with so much just substance and
Speaker 1: self love. And you've reflected and you've grown every day
Speaker 1: since then and you've embodied it full force. And to me,
Speaker 1: thank you. I really agree with you. Y'all were not
Speaker 1: there on my floor with me, and I was those
Speaker 1: but you know, it's what you do after that may
Speaker 1: you have picked yourself up and have been a just
Speaker 1: ray of like and you haven't been bitter about any
Speaker 1: of it. And because there's always two sides, so it's
Speaker 1: of course, like you don't want to just like blame
Speaker 1: someone for the divorce. Obviously you are both involved, but
Speaker 1: you haven't been bitter, you wishing well you like she said,
Speaker 1: you've taken it and you've made it a part of
Speaker 1: your story in such a positive way. You've used it
Speaker 1: for growth. Well, I think it's really interesting. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, it's really easy for people to point the finger,
Speaker 1: and I think when I initially got out of it,
Speaker 1: I did that. I was like, well, it wasn't me.
Speaker 1: Not in a way where I came out and said that,
Speaker 1: but in sort of it's always round about let be honest.
Speaker 1: And it started to really reflect on like the things
Speaker 1: that I did and the things that I said, and
Speaker 1: I was just as guilty, you know, and I and
Speaker 1: I look back and I have now compassion for that
Speaker 1: girl because the situation that I was in. I didn't
Speaker 1: know that girl like yourself. Yeah, myself, but that situation
Speaker 1: because I didn't have the tools and I didn't have
Speaker 1: the the moment, the AHA moments that I have now
Speaker 1: to handle the situation that I was in. So what
Speaker 1: AHA moments have you gathered? Um? I think I've just
Speaker 1: really kind of dealt with things that were in my
Speaker 1: past before my marriage, you know, things that were um,
Speaker 1: you know, almost where I didn't feel worthy. We all
Speaker 1: have those moments in life. It's like those injuries that
Speaker 1: stick with us forever. You and I are super similar
Speaker 1: with how where we are now and what we've come
Speaker 1: from because I never felt worthy, and I'll be interested
Speaker 1: in where does that come from? Though, because we I
Speaker 1: think we all have very similar stories. I think so too.
Speaker 1: I never felt like I don't know, I grew up
Speaker 1: with parents who told me I was great and all
Speaker 1: this stuff and believed to me. But I just never
Speaker 1: felt like I was good enough ever, Like I never
Speaker 1: felt like I would be the one picked, Like I
Speaker 1: would be the one that the guy would want to date,
Speaker 1: I'd be the one that would get the job, I'd
Speaker 1: be the one that would get the opportunity. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I just never thought it was me. I don't know
Speaker 1: where that came from, but I believe that for a
Speaker 1: really long time. Yeah, and maybe that I think that's
Speaker 1: kind of how like why I ended up where I
Speaker 1: was in my marriage, because I had all those things
Speaker 1: and I felt unworthy and then it was like I
Speaker 1: almost was in this position of worthiness, and it was
Speaker 1: like almost like I felt entitled. You know, it wasn't.
Speaker 1: It wasn't. I didn't come from place of gratitude, thanking
Speaker 1: the universe to all of the blessings, thank God for
Speaker 1: all the blessings that have been given. It was like
Speaker 1: what can I have? That's more, what can I How
Speaker 1: can I be or appear more perfect? And that just
Speaker 1: continues to perpetuate us in a very unhealthy external way. Yes,
Speaker 1: until God, the universe, whatever slaps you, blaps down and
Speaker 1: brings you down. Yeah, and that I think that's really
Speaker 1: what it was. It was like, people think that, like
Speaker 1: the breakdown is bad, but really the breakdown is where
Speaker 1: you get the break through. Yeah it is, Yes, Amen,
Speaker 1: there's so much beauty in in that moment of Wow.
Speaker 1: I have been living my life all wrong, you know,
Speaker 1: in my mindset, my attentions, my lack of gratitude is
Speaker 1: all wrong. So I've just really been on a journey
Speaker 1: the past three or four years and just kind of
Speaker 1: finding that and getting back to that place of of
Speaker 1: being in unity with with God, my spirituality and um,
Speaker 1: I mean I'm binding. No means perfect at all, but
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm a lot more of a granted
Speaker 1: same person now and a Lissa. You've been through a
Speaker 1: lot too, Like how did you end up being this peaceful?
Speaker 1: Have you always just radiated peace? No? No, I'm like
Speaker 1: a crazy human being. God, I mean so am. I
Speaker 1: I feel like half the time if people could get
Speaker 1: to my brain may No. No, it takes work every
Speaker 1: day and I feel like I've gone from my life
Speaker 1: has been. It's been full and good and and positive,
Speaker 1: but I've had some moments where you know, growing up,
Speaker 1: I had a very supportive family, but my father had
Speaker 1: you know, some alcohol issues, which sucks. You know, and
Speaker 1: so we talk about self worth. Through that process, I
Speaker 1: had to really look within and say, Okay, my self
Speaker 1: worth needs to come from full alignment within, not any
Speaker 1: external sources. And at the time, all of that propelled
Speaker 1: me into very much like people pleasing, if that makes sense,
Speaker 1: And so I went I would just try to be
Speaker 1: this like perfect little thing where I had. I went
Speaker 1: to college, I got a full ride playing tennis. I
Speaker 1: went into the corporate world. I was the perfect corporate employee,
Speaker 1: rising the ranks, you know, and I worked in very
Speaker 1: male dominated industries because that's really what was able to
Speaker 1: support myself financially. How did you handle male dominated industries
Speaker 1: being the beautiful woman that you are. Did you have
Speaker 1: the correct tools to handle it then? Or how did
Speaker 1: you navigate that? Do you guys want to answer? We
Speaker 1: have a not online interior was amazing Bason Arnold Interiors.
Speaker 1: You want to come to design my house, I'm available
Speaker 1: call you back. Oh, how did I handle male dominated
Speaker 1: the male dominated industry? So I was in medical device sales,
Speaker 1: selling spine equipment, and I wanted to be hired for
Speaker 1: my knowledge and not the way I looked. So I
Speaker 1: really wanted to be taken seriously. Well, there's a fine
Speaker 1: line because at that point you have to not be
Speaker 1: bitter number one, because you're not being like you can't
Speaker 1: be your feminine, full creative self. And I didn't want
Speaker 1: that rough edge around myself, and so I just worked
Speaker 1: really hard. I didn't wear a lot of makeup, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, and um, my whole goal was just to
Speaker 1: be hired from my knowledge and provide as much value
Speaker 1: to you know, my accounts and my my clients as possible,
Speaker 1: and to grow because I had to work twice as
Speaker 1: hard and twice as long to get you know, in
Speaker 1: the door and to get respect. And I'm not this
Speaker 1: I am a feminist, but I'm not this staunch. I
Speaker 1: believe in equal rights and humanists, you know, and I
Speaker 1: believe that you know, when you walk in that door,
Speaker 1: people should, you know, respect you period, regardless of what
Speaker 1: you look like, how old you are, and you know,
Speaker 1: especially if you're coming from a place of being, you know,
Speaker 1: providing value. So it was tough. I mean I was
Speaker 1: judged by the way it looked. You know, there were
Speaker 1: people might not taking you seriously, and there was you know,
Speaker 1: and not to get too deep, but you know, there
Speaker 1: was sexual discrimination. There was like stuff you know that
Speaker 1: I think as a young female in the corporate world
Speaker 1: or in any industry, you know, especially with everything going
Speaker 1: on right now, like we have all experienced it. So
Speaker 1: I was living that life and to me, I said
Speaker 1: this a couple of days ago. But I think success
Speaker 1: changes depending upon where you are in life, and at
Speaker 1: that time in my life, success was very much on
Speaker 1: the outside looking in. I had to feel like I
Speaker 1: had it all, like I had to make a certain
Speaker 1: amount that I had to just I had to feel
Speaker 1: like I had it all together. You had to check
Speaker 1: off some major boxes for you to feel like you
Speaker 1: had success. And those were all external things that were
Speaker 1: driving me. And it really wasn't until I had cancer
Speaker 1: that it knocked me on my ass. Breakdown back, because
Speaker 1: that is a story that he that that took you
Speaker 1: by surprise, Explain, explain that part of your story. So
Speaker 1: my husband's very much involved in this story. And we,
Speaker 1: you know, on the outside looking in still like everything
Speaker 1: looks perfect, but we're all human, like we all go
Speaker 1: through growing changes and seasons in life and this Evan flow,
Speaker 1: and we were very much in this Evan flow during
Speaker 1: the first part of our relationship to where I said, peace,
Speaker 1: I'm moving to Chicago. I know. I sometimes you have
Speaker 1: to find yourself because you can't be a great partner
Speaker 1: if you don't know what you're looking for, truly correct.
Speaker 1: So I said, peace, I'm out and um Chicago going
Speaker 1: to Chicago. Um. So that happened, and we took a
Speaker 1: year off and then we got back together and we're
Speaker 1: towards the end of me being in the city. And um,
Speaker 1: I was really towards the end of my corporate career.
Speaker 1: And I had been in the corporate world for a
Speaker 1: little over a decade and that was my identity, you know.
Speaker 1: And um, I remember us We're having dinner and we're
Speaker 1: talking about, you know, important things, and he looked across
Speaker 1: the table from me and he's like, um, Alyssa, you
Speaker 1: have you have a tumor growing out of your neck.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, Benjamin, were talking about we haven't even
Speaker 1: ordered appetizerste So, you know things. I do believe that
Speaker 1: things happen for reasons, and I believe in, you know,
Speaker 1: surrendering and letting those things happen. And this was just
Speaker 1: a season of change for me. I was really doing
Speaker 1: a lot of introspection and having that self dialogue of
Speaker 1: is this what your life is supposed to look like?
Speaker 1: You know, you're in this pretty, you know, condo in Chicago,
Speaker 1: and you're you have this great corporate career, but are
Speaker 1: you happy? Like, are you really? Is this filling you?
Speaker 1: Because you had reached the place where you had actually
Speaker 1: checked off those boxes you're trying to check and so
Speaker 1: you didn't get the happiness you're hoping was going to
Speaker 1: come with it, right, And then that's an interesting moment
Speaker 1: that happens. You have to revisit it and you're like,
Speaker 1: you have all of these things and you should be happy.
Speaker 1: You know, exactly like what you're saying. You know, you
Speaker 1: have all of these things, this this stuff, and you
Speaker 1: know you you should be proud and happy. And I
Speaker 1: knew something was lacking. And whenever he diagnosed me and
Speaker 1: was going through cancer, it honestly gave me the permission
Speaker 1: to really really look within and start living my most
Speaker 1: authentic life. So cancer was actually a blessing. It was
Speaker 1: a gift. I get emotional still to this day because
Speaker 1: it really gave me the opportunity to pursue the things
Speaker 1: that bring me life. And it's just been. It's cancer
Speaker 1: is a terrible thing, but it gave me so much
Speaker 1: more than it took away. I know that it sounds,
Speaker 1: you know, but it's so what did you do once
Speaker 1: you went through this diagnosis? You've got your cancer removed,
Speaker 1: every your back, You're back through it. My coping was
Speaker 1: so I had never really had the opportunity financially to
Speaker 1: have that freedom to do the things that I wanted
Speaker 1: to do. And through the process of me being diagnosed,
Speaker 1: the process of me having surgery and then healing, I
Speaker 1: started doing things that I wanted to do for me,
Speaker 1: and I bought a camera. I read the manual, you know,
Speaker 1: that's amazing. I started shooting like around my own home,
Speaker 1: you know, in the city, which ended up selling the
Speaker 1: condo we know, which was great, and the photos sold
Speaker 1: the I mean, I used the photos, you know to
Speaker 1: sell that. So you just always had a passion for photography,
Speaker 1: well latent. I didn't know it, and my mom was
Speaker 1: always kind of this this like little voice on my shoulder,
Speaker 1: going a Lissa, you really need to focus on photography
Speaker 1: because growing up as a little girl, I loved going
Speaker 1: to museums. And when I would go to the museums,
Speaker 1: I would always go to the photography, you know side,
Speaker 1: and I would always have loved like Richard Avidant growing up,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I don't even know who this man is,
Speaker 1: but I gravitated towards his work, and and she she
Speaker 1: saw it, and I didn't see it, and I didn't
Speaker 1: have the time to do to pursue it, and so
Speaker 1: she was always like, Okay, now it's your time do it.
Speaker 1: So how did you What did you do when you
Speaker 1: decided to quit print job? I know that's an incredible story.
Speaker 1: Quit your corporate job and now you're like, okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go into photography. How did that transition happen? What
Speaker 1: what did that look like? So again, I'm after having
Speaker 1: all the things where you where it feels forced, and
Speaker 1: then you take a step back and you kind of
Speaker 1: surrender that control. I feel like once you surrender, and
Speaker 1: once you're following that light within yourself, that authentic light
Speaker 1: that's been each and every one of you, things fall
Speaker 1: into place. Yes they do, because you're finally doing what
Speaker 1: you call to do on this earth. And I believe
Speaker 1: that we all have a different blueprint. It's like that
Speaker 1: you have that urge inside of you that draws you
Speaker 1: to photography, that draws you to muse it, that draws
Speaker 1: you to whatever. But you're like, oh, that's just what
Speaker 1: you don't listen to because you don't think it's really
Speaker 1: going to make money and be a conduit to something
Speaker 1: so much more substantial and so much more bigger than yourself.
Speaker 1: So yes, I just take pictures of houses and style,
Speaker 1: that's not it. I people to see the light and
Speaker 1: the love and from the collaborations and from the you know,
Speaker 1: the love that I have in my heart. I want
Speaker 1: the end receiver to feel that. Saying just compassion, I
Speaker 1: feel like there's something so cool about, like you said,
Speaker 1: just living from the success is relative, and living from
Speaker 1: that place of passion rather than like, where's the money
Speaker 1: going to come from? How am I going to know?
Speaker 1: In fear? You just trusting the light within you and
Speaker 1: then aligning that with your intention to love others. And
Speaker 1: it's really it's getting out of your head. It's it's
Speaker 1: kind of like mind versus heart. It's truly taking some
Speaker 1: time quieting your environment and asking yourself those tough questions,
Speaker 1: what drives you? Where, where do you feel those goosebump moments?
Speaker 1: And when that yeah, and that's what's going to connect
Speaker 1: you to your greater your greater purpose and truth. And
Speaker 1: I think exactly what both of you guys have mentioned
Speaker 1: in your stories is you both had check marks you
Speaker 1: needed accomplished this, this is what success is, and you
Speaker 1: reached them, you checked them, and then you realize, Okay,
Speaker 1: you're not fulfilled, and then you have trauma happened, a divorce, cancer.
Speaker 1: I mean, I have a similar story, totally a different story,
Speaker 1: but same process that I work at, where it's like,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're like, Okay, I got what
Speaker 1: I thought I was going for that would make me happy,
Speaker 1: didn't make me happy. Ship hit the fan, and now
Speaker 1: I gotta decide what I'm gonna do with this life.
Speaker 1: Next steps most authentic next steps. So it's almost like
Speaker 1: kind of amazing when you have that process happened to
Speaker 1: you because you get to experience it firsthand and really
Speaker 1: know that things in success like success of the world
Speaker 1: is not going to make you happy. We were at
Speaker 1: Burnet Brown's went to it because I've tried. After we
Speaker 1: had dinner, I tried to go get tickets. It was
Speaker 1: sold out. But she said, similar to your point, Curlin,
Speaker 1: she said that, and she talked, She's amazing for everybody,
Speaker 1: for anyone who doesn't know Rene Brown get She started
Speaker 1: out as this clinical researcher and you know, huge corporate
Speaker 1: one hundred Silicon Valley companies hire her out to do
Speaker 1: motivational speaking, to consult and these companies expect a failure
Speaker 1: rate because that's when you grow, innovate, you know, and
Speaker 1: rebuild in a stronger way. Failure is crucial, crucial success. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: we're an unlock because I feel but you know, you
Speaker 1: wouldn't regret your marriage and divorced now because look at
Speaker 1: where you are Rush now. Honestly, I it really has
Speaker 1: taught me like the biggest lessons in life. And I
Speaker 1: feel like the opportunity to have had those lessons and
Speaker 1: go through that process and learn we're there like I
Speaker 1: didn't have to go through all of that. And so
Speaker 1: I don't want anyone that's listening to think I have
Speaker 1: to suffered, because that's not what you're called to. You're
Speaker 1: called to greatness. You're called to live a life full
Speaker 1: of love and success and all of the there is
Speaker 1: no purpose, but when you have pain and you can
Speaker 1: turn it into goodness. Yeah, and so because I hadn't
Speaker 1: reached that point when I was in my marriage and
Speaker 1: sort of just everything that was involved was just kind
Speaker 1: of spiraling to this negative place. My mindset was negative,
Speaker 1: my thought pattern was negative, that things I expected were
Speaker 1: negatives was negative. So my life was negative. And UM,
Speaker 1: I am so grateful to have gone through what I
Speaker 1: what I've been through, UM, because I now can see
Speaker 1: that my my intentions are what matter. My thought pattern
Speaker 1: is what matters. My return to love and like running
Speaker 1: from fear, just allowing the fear to fade away and
Speaker 1: living and existing in a place of love, UM is
Speaker 1: what is important, what this life is about. But why
Speaker 1: do so many people hit these moments where they could
Speaker 1: easily throw in the cars and for the rest of
Speaker 1: their life they could play the victim. Like you guys
Speaker 1: could both be a victim forever if you wanted to,
Speaker 1: and you could have. You could have just like given
Speaker 1: up and just been like, well, screw this, I'm upset.
Speaker 1: Life through me a bad hand. And so many people
Speaker 1: stopped there when they get their first big round of
Speaker 1: bad luck. I feel like they're not bad luck, but
Speaker 1: they're big round, like that first big hit that like
Speaker 1: wipes you out. So many people curl up in a
Speaker 1: ball and just die and live in that pain. They
Speaker 1: never get out of it. How did y'all get out
Speaker 1: of it and elevate to this next level? I think
Speaker 1: it's oh, man, I've had really strong female forces in
Speaker 1: my life and that was just never an option. It's like,
Speaker 1: you survived and you keep going. And that is like
Speaker 1: sitting in that corner crying. You know you can do
Speaker 1: that for a day. Better get yourself a most crying.
Speaker 1: You get a moment. You get a moment, for sure,
Speaker 1: but the next is a new day and you pick
Speaker 1: yourself up. And this is the other thing. There is
Speaker 1: no greater gift than living in the present, and you
Speaker 1: cannot live in the past. That is debilitating. And so
Speaker 1: you have to hold yourself accountable and say, Okay, this
Speaker 1: is what I mean, this is this is what's in
Speaker 1: front of me, and we're just gonna keep going and
Speaker 1: we're going to do the best we can and you
Speaker 1: know we're gonna, yeah, we're gonna try to make it work.
Speaker 1: I totally I think for me, so many strong female
Speaker 1: forces in my life, but I think it was almost
Speaker 1: um the fact that I knew I was going to
Speaker 1: be able to use my message and that I could
Speaker 1: be used out of it. Like I've always had a
Speaker 1: very strong faith at the base of all of this
Speaker 1: other ship that I've allowed to hie onto my emotions
Speaker 1: and patterns and all of that. But at the at
Speaker 1: the base of it, I know that God exists, that
Speaker 1: God wants to write our stories to be beautiful. And
Speaker 1: I think if you listen to that too. I mean,
Speaker 1: my mom always said, you have this turtle compass, call
Speaker 1: it what you want. It could be the universe, it
Speaker 1: could be God, it can be. But it's that little
Speaker 1: voice inside you, and it like propels you. It's this compulsion.
Speaker 1: And I feel like with you and your music, you
Speaker 1: have that right now, like that you are conduit of
Speaker 1: this beautiful gift and this beautiful message. Thank you, Ry,
Speaker 1: And I feel like you're coming more into yourself musically
Speaker 1: than you ever have been. Even when you had record deals,
Speaker 1: the TV shows, all that stuff, you almost were chasing
Speaker 1: what you thought the industry wanted you to have. But
Speaker 1: now you're just doing what you want. Aren't you more
Speaker 1: grateful for it? Now? Oh? My gosh, I you know what.
Speaker 1: I'm grateful for the ability to think a thought or
Speaker 1: experience something or have an emotion and put it into
Speaker 1: music and sharing that with other people. You know, that's
Speaker 1: what art is. That's it and everything that we do,
Speaker 1: like that's our purpose is communion and communication, communication and
Speaker 1: community and boarding each other through that, right, And like
Speaker 1: it may just be a song that evokes an emotion,
Speaker 1: but that song is something that someone can feel I've
Speaker 1: been here before, me too, She's been there and she
Speaker 1: feels this. Oh I feel that too. Like we're one
Speaker 1: in the animal. Yeah, and it takes. It's just you
Speaker 1: have to be vulnerable and you have to be vulnerable,
Speaker 1: and that is getting thrown around a lot and everyone's
Speaker 1: like often vulnerable. But it's so true because it is
Speaker 1: a movement that's happening. People are social media can we
Speaker 1: We've also talked about this. Social media can be a
Speaker 1: bad thing for comparison, but also it can reveal. It
Speaker 1: can take those layers off that we used to put
Speaker 1: on people because now everyone is able to expose themselves,
Speaker 1: be honest, and we're all craving that and people want
Speaker 1: to relate. Like you're saying it, say like okay, I
Speaker 1: get that, I'm the same, I'm not alone, I'm not crazy.
Speaker 1: You know, I think we're all connected, we're all into
Speaker 1: this together, and we I don't know. I feel like
Speaker 1: as a society, we grow up and we use these
Speaker 1: differentiating points to divide ourselves from each other. And that
Speaker 1: I mean that I don't know. I mean, I just
Speaker 1: it's comparison and its judgment, and it's fear. And I
Speaker 1: think when you are again in alignment with who you are,
Speaker 1: your heart, you're living from a place of love, not fear,
Speaker 1: not ego, and you're connecting to the people around you,
Speaker 1: You're connecting to your community, You're providing a positive message.
Speaker 1: You're only going to strengthen not only yourself but those
Speaker 1: around you, and it's going to be a very supportive world.
Speaker 1: And you don't have to worry because when you are
Speaker 1: in alignment with your calling, you almost can be fearless
Speaker 1: because you're like, I know, I'm walking in my purpose,
Speaker 1: which brings me to this. This is my influencer series.
Speaker 1: But you guys influence. You guys have influence. It's all
Speaker 1: ties together y'all have in y'all influence. The way you
Speaker 1: are influencing and the way you've had success and the
Speaker 1: most success that you've ever enjoyed. True success is by
Speaker 1: doing something different than other influencers have done. Like a
Speaker 1: lot of people study algorithms, try to like stay on
Speaker 1: top of like you know, like have a clear and
Speaker 1: for how they blog. I mean, that's great, You've got
Speaker 1: to think about your business. But you guys, your main
Speaker 1: way of influencing is like being connected to your soul.
Speaker 1: I feel like, tell me how your careers have opened
Speaker 1: up when you truly started letting your soul guide it.
Speaker 1: Because that is risky business for a lot of people
Speaker 1: are risky business. Most people are like, I won't do that.
Speaker 1: People like that soul ship. Hell no, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: ahead and try to regulate my life. You know, Like
Speaker 1: these pants are so cute totally and it is great,
Speaker 1: But so many people work at like a business, have
Speaker 1: all this hustled and dry work so hard. I still
Speaker 1: think there is that there needs to be that grit.
Speaker 1: There is that hard work. But I coming into the
Speaker 1: world of interior and architectural photography photography, I'm also a stylist.
Speaker 1: This was this was a new world for me, and
Speaker 1: so coming into the world of photography, I was, you know,
Speaker 1: if if I'm being very honest and vulnerable. I was
Speaker 1: scared and I did. I didn't initially started as a business.
Speaker 1: It was a very cathartic healing point for me because
Speaker 1: I was coming off of the cusp of this tremendous
Speaker 1: corporate environment and career and I needed a break. And
Speaker 1: for me, that break was a creative outlet. And and
Speaker 1: so I never in my wildest dreams thought it would
Speaker 1: turn into a business. And it was a passion. It was.
Speaker 1: It got me through cancer, It made me, It brought
Speaker 1: me into alignment with who I am as an artist,
Speaker 1: as a creative, as a woman, as you know. And
Speaker 1: so for me, it was just this very genuine and
Speaker 1: pure form of expression of myself like love. It was
Speaker 1: true love, and it it's vulnerable when you put that
Speaker 1: true love out into the world. And so I it
Speaker 1: happened very organically, and you did thinks differently than other photographers.
Speaker 1: I did so, being untrained, there was a little sensitivity
Speaker 1: around that, and I was like, well, am I good enough?
Speaker 1: Am I good enough to do this? And so by
Speaker 1: default I ended up pioneering a new way of doing
Speaker 1: business in the industry, which has been incredible. But it
Speaker 1: wasn't planned. And I looked at it. I just took
Speaker 1: my corporate experience. I worked for to fortune one companies
Speaker 1: and basically developed in many NBA from all the training
Speaker 1: and the experience. And for me, I left the corporate
Speaker 1: world understanding value and how to provide it to the
Speaker 1: end user. And I looked at architectural photography and I
Speaker 1: entered into this landscape where there were it was pretty antiquated.
Speaker 1: I mean, I was one of the young guns coming in.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what I was doing. Um I read
Speaker 1: the manual that was my school of hard knocked to
Speaker 1: the photography, you know, and um I recognized a how
Speaker 1: I can save big shelter national magazines money and how
Speaker 1: I can be of benefit and help grow small businesses.
Speaker 1: And I I was the middleman. So what was the
Speaker 1: little way of doing it? What was your way of
Speaker 1: doing it? So traditionally magazines will have in house photographers
Speaker 1: and in house stylists and they will send those in
Speaker 1: house stylists and photographers on location and occur a lot
Speaker 1: of expenses to shoot and then hire. You have to
Speaker 1: hire photographer, you have to hire a crew crew probably
Speaker 1: there's so many people you have to hire. And it
Speaker 1: was always a dream of mine to work for those
Speaker 1: magazines eventually, you know, but I knew at that point
Speaker 1: I just wasn't I don't know if I was good enough.
Speaker 1: I didn't have the confidence. And so it was the
Speaker 1: meshing of really the perfect world to where I had
Speaker 1: a client, my first client. It was she was a
Speaker 1: brand new designer in Chicago. It was my first shoot,
Speaker 1: it was her first shoot, and I really intuitively loved
Speaker 1: the process of Okay, well I want to style it.
Speaker 1: We're going to work together, We're going to collaborate. It's
Speaker 1: going to be about the pro cess as opposed to
Speaker 1: the end result, and we're gonna work in tandem to
Speaker 1: try to make this as beautiful and successful as possible
Speaker 1: to benefit her business and her portfolio. And then I
Speaker 1: ended up with this gallery and I'm like, okay, cool pictures. Pictures,
Speaker 1: And now I'm like, okay, well I'm going to try
Speaker 1: to pitch it. And so, not knowing, not even thinking
Speaker 1: I could be part of this now editorial community, an
Speaker 1: editor gave me a shot and she said and picked
Speaker 1: up picked it up you know, on a really magazine
Speaker 1: was it Room magazine, which I adore, and so they
Speaker 1: that was the first time I've ever been featured. So
Speaker 1: you your first shoot that you styled, that you curated,
Speaker 1: you photographed, you decided on a whim, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: pitch this, and it got to benefit my client, you know,
Speaker 1: because in my mind, I'm thinking, Okay, if she, if
Speaker 1: I can provide and capture her brand and provide her
Speaker 1: with this beautiful portfolio moment, and if I can get
Speaker 1: it out there in a national way, that's going to
Speaker 1: give her more clients. And I always say, what does
Speaker 1: the world need? How can your gift help what people need?
Speaker 1: You fulfilled a need and so well, thank you, and
Speaker 1: you did it with love. I did it and I
Speaker 1: still do and so that's really what has separated my
Speaker 1: business model from the traditional way of going into this,
Speaker 1: you know, shooting as a photographer. And it's been it's
Speaker 1: been really cool. And now looking back, I still pinched
Speaker 1: myself every day because I'm part of these magazines, I'm
Speaker 1: in print, and I I've worked with some of the
Speaker 1: most incredible designers and creatives and architects in stylists out there.
Speaker 1: And I I never, in my wildest dreams thought I
Speaker 1: would be be here. So would you say you got
Speaker 1: here from just following your heart? And then also being
Speaker 1: innovated to figuring not trying to think, Okay, what is
Speaker 1: everyone doing? You just figured out what I need. I
Speaker 1: put blinders on and knew that I had I knew
Speaker 1: I had a gift, and I knew I had something
Speaker 1: to offer my client to better their businesses. And I
Speaker 1: really still to this day, I have to put blinders on,
Speaker 1: and I can't be concerned about what other people are doing,
Speaker 1: and I have to continue to to listen to my heart,
Speaker 1: to continue to innovate and do the things that inspire me,
Speaker 1: because those are the things that are going to continue
Speaker 1: to help my clients, provide value to the community, and
Speaker 1: differentiate my path for everybody else. Got talking to you.
Speaker 1: How do you know when you have a gift? Like,
Speaker 1: how do you know, Like you said, you knew you
Speaker 1: had a gift, How do you know when it's a gift?
Speaker 1: When it feels right, you feel it, you feel it
Speaker 1: deep in your soul and you get into that flow
Speaker 1: like the time. This is something I try to achieve
Speaker 1: every day. It's when you lose track of time and
Speaker 1: it's almost like it's yeah, and it's this meditative state
Speaker 1: and you know, you call it flow. You know whatever
Speaker 1: it is. I get into it when I'm shooting. I
Speaker 1: get into it when I'm editing, get it to when
Speaker 1: i'm in like this kind of new creative realm of
Speaker 1: thinking outside the box and what else I can do.
Speaker 1: Not you're not like, oh I hate this making me
Speaker 1: feel drained. It makes you feel invigorated and almost more
Speaker 1: like even if you're working hours, you feel so alive.
Speaker 1: For me, it's like, you know, I love style. I
Speaker 1: love fashion. I love more so than anything, I love
Speaker 1: bringing people's personal style out. Um. But when I'm writing music,
Speaker 1: like especially recently now that I feel like I'm really
Speaker 1: connected to my intention of love and spreading love and
Speaker 1: trusting that the universe will work through me. Um. And
Speaker 1: I mean I really needed to hear what you just
Speaker 1: said actually because you were doing it differently. And I
Speaker 1: feel like for me, I was, you know, an artist
Speaker 1: than in a band for a little bit. Yeah. Right,
Speaker 1: But if you're not, you know, if you're not going
Speaker 1: to be polarizing, right, I mean, I gotta gotta rule father.
Speaker 1: I actually got not to. I have been feeling that
Speaker 1: way too, because sometimes I'm like, oh my gosh, what
Speaker 1: do people think I'm annoying? What if people think I'm
Speaker 1: stupid and I'm like, you know what, my heart is good.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to do good things and who cares? So
Speaker 1: getting to that place where you're just like screw it,
Speaker 1: who cares? Who cares? Yeah? And so like this release,
Speaker 1: this music I've been making and releasing and I'm actually
Speaker 1: working on another project that's more like of an inspirational
Speaker 1: type uh direction. But this music that I'm releasing over
Speaker 1: the next four weeks and the song I released today, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't have a deal. I haven't even
Speaker 1: gone to one publishing meeting. Um, so I don't really
Speaker 1: have a team. And how does that feel going from
Speaker 1: having big teams doing it just on your own. So
Speaker 1: it's like I can either come from it at a
Speaker 1: mindset of like, oh, I'm not doing this right, like
Speaker 1: I don't have a radio promotions team, Like everyone in
Speaker 1: Nashville is just gonna laugh at me because I'm like
Speaker 1: little independent Sarah putting out music. Or I can look
Speaker 1: at it from a point of what you were doing,
Speaker 1: how can I best serve the people that are going
Speaker 1: to be involved in my community, my listeners, the people
Speaker 1: that are on my Instagram that are you know, hearing
Speaker 1: seeing that I'm posting, posting new music and going to
Speaker 1: listening to people that are on my Facebook, like the
Speaker 1: people in my direct life, Like what can I do
Speaker 1: through my music to impact them and best serve them?
Speaker 1: Not to make a buck or right not to make
Speaker 1: a buck or gets famous, and um, I mean, granted,
Speaker 1: you do have to make money, but like for me,
Speaker 1: it's like I'm discovering this whole new thing and it's
Speaker 1: coming from a place of love. So I don't even
Speaker 1: give a ship if people don't if they make fun
Speaker 1: of like it's like say, I'm a little peon, but
Speaker 1: like I'm not a little pian. I'm voice of truth,
Speaker 1: you know. So it's like when people hate, it's a
Speaker 1: reflection of where they are and their friend And you
Speaker 1: are either with your positivity, with your glow. I'm sitting
Speaker 1: in between two beautiful women inside and out who are
Speaker 1: strong and courageous and radiate like one with sweaty armpits. Say,
Speaker 1: but you either are going to raise the person up
Speaker 1: next to you and continue to live your truth. And
Speaker 1: while doing that, you're also going to expose that other
Speaker 1: person who's going to be a hater. You're going to
Speaker 1: be a mirror or what they need to work, only
Speaker 1: they're willing to see it. But it's not your Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not monkey, not a social When I started my podcast,
Speaker 1: I was coming out of music and you know, I
Speaker 1: have been doing music forever, kind of developed a reputation
Speaker 1: in that way, always been involved with other artists, like
Speaker 1: never alone, And I was so terrified starting this podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm like people to think I'm a freaking joke, you know,
Speaker 1: like it's gonna be embarrassing, like how dumb? Like who
Speaker 1: does she think she is? Like love it? But I
Speaker 1: love it? Oh, I love it so much. And I
Speaker 1: finally was just like walking through Bob Dapiro hit songwriter
Speaker 1: said this, and I will never forget Mama told you
Speaker 1: all fear is a hundred feet wide and a hundred
Speaker 1: feet tall, but it's paper thin. I'm visualizing this right now,
Speaker 1: so like a hundred feet wide and a hundred feet tall,
Speaker 1: but it's paper thin. So all you gotta do. It
Speaker 1: looks like it's everywhere, It looks like it's all around,
Speaker 1: like it's all you can see, but really you can
Speaker 1: just walk right through that well and that's where you. Okay.
Speaker 1: I always say yes to the things that scared the
Speaker 1: ever living ship out of it. I'm gonna grow and
Speaker 1: be like I need it. That's what my soul needs.
Speaker 1: So you have to you there's a good I'm not
Speaker 1: saying go into burning houses, but I'm saying, if you
Speaker 1: feel fearful, that's it a good indication and a good
Speaker 1: litmus test that you need to say yes and do it.
Speaker 1: That is so true and exactly what you're talking about
Speaker 1: with your music. It is a little intimidating to be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I've gone from having all this big press around me,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna do this by myself. Yeah, because I
Speaker 1: believe in what I'm doing. Yeah, it's definitely and like
Speaker 1: beyond that talking of just on the influencer, I mean,
Speaker 1: we've had this conversation, but you know, I know you
Speaker 1: both of you put out a lot of positivity out
Speaker 1: there and I do too, and I put up prayers
Speaker 1: every day or try every day. But when I first
Speaker 1: started doing it, I thought people that know me, they're
Speaker 1: going to be like that know me in my life
Speaker 1: now they would they believe that that's my truth. But
Speaker 1: that wasn't my authentic truth even three years ago, maybe
Speaker 1: even last year. You know I've acted in ways or
Speaker 1: said things or hurt people, not intentionally. I was not
Speaker 1: like ever an evil, vindictive person, but right well I'm
Speaker 1: feming with a lot of people judge you according to that.
Speaker 1: And it's like maybe people are stuck like their friendship
Speaker 1: Toop two years ago with you there, So you're thinking,
Speaker 1: maybe they still think of you that way, right, And
Speaker 1: so you know that can either hinder us, that fear
Speaker 1: can hinder us, or that can empower us to continue
Speaker 1: to speak truth because we know that we're going to
Speaker 1: impact whether you have one follower, whether you have fifty followers,
Speaker 1: whether you have two million followers, those are the people
Speaker 1: that are in your direct community. And that goes for
Speaker 1: like followers in real life, people that like imitate you,
Speaker 1: your family, your friends or sisters, whatever it is. You
Speaker 1: have the opportunity to impact them for the better. And
Speaker 1: why let the fear of what someone else thinks of
Speaker 1: you inhibit you from speaking life and love and changing
Speaker 1: people's lives. And also, it's make believe. What I finally
Speaker 1: realized was it is absolute make believe. Like whatever I
Speaker 1: think someone is thinking about me, they're not. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: making up a story, like I'm literally might as well
Speaker 1: be Cinderella or you're making it up like I have
Speaker 1: no idea what you're thinking about me, and I have
Speaker 1: no idea what you have gone through in your life
Speaker 1: that impacts your thoughts. You know, what are your wounds
Speaker 1: that you've gone through that impact your You know, decisions
Speaker 1: or how you feel about people are just the way
Speaker 1: your personality is shaped, you know. But back to you
Speaker 1: can you can redefine your narrative. You can redefine the
Speaker 1: person that you want to be and grow into that
Speaker 1: and embody that every day we all should be doing.
Speaker 1: You know, it's right. We should not people do that.
Speaker 1: We should yet let people involve all. I love that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because if we can't, if we can't give grace to
Speaker 1: people to evolve, then how could we spoke people to
Speaker 1: get So I totally agree with that. I said something
Speaker 1: about that all my ancestry the other day and like
Speaker 1: I was blow drying my hairs and some girl I know,
Speaker 1: and I was thinking about something like I don't know
Speaker 1: what it is. I think it's sometimes like God, the
Speaker 1: universe kind of like now that I'm aware, like kind
Speaker 1: of pricking me and being like, Okay, this is something
Speaker 1: that you need to like deal with. And I thought this.
Speaker 1: I thought about a situation that was genuinely like seven
Speaker 1: years ago, and a girl said something about a dress
Speaker 1: that I had on it to be in my words
Speaker 1: because I was like my ex was getting the songwriter
Speaker 1: of the year, and so I went, I got this
Speaker 1: like super super just like extra address had like Ostrich
Speaker 1: feathers on it, and it was actually like I have arrived.
Speaker 1: And someone said totally it was that righteous. But some
Speaker 1: girl goes, oh, I didn't know it was prom and
Speaker 1: I mean, wasn't a big deal, Like it was something
Speaker 1: that like I should have been like, yeah, whatever, but
Speaker 1: it's stuck with for seven years, for seven years, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's crazy. Those little moments can impact you
Speaker 1: so much. Yeah, it's it's great. So I started thinking
Speaker 1: about this and I'm like, oh, I can't believe this
Speaker 1: person said that. And I'm like, Sarah, you cannot assume
Speaker 1: that this person is even had the intention of saying
Speaker 1: anything wrong, but or that they are the same person
Speaker 1: that they were, or that it would be okay to
Speaker 1: judge them even if they were the same person. You know,
Speaker 1: Like I feel like a lot of times in our
Speaker 1: lives we have these offenses and we pick them up,
Speaker 1: you know, we like forgive, forget, move on. But then
Speaker 1: we think about the situation again and pick it back
Speaker 1: up and don't allow. And it's like you have to
Speaker 1: check yourself and be like, okay, why am I picking
Speaker 1: this offense back up? And so I have kind of
Speaker 1: realized when somebody hits a nerve of me or offense
Speaker 1: me or upsets me, that to me is like, Okay,
Speaker 1: they've hit something, they've hit, they've hit they've hit something,
Speaker 1: like why is that bothering me so much? What did
Speaker 1: they stir up? And side to me that is not healed?
Speaker 1: Like what did they what little insecure part that wound?
Speaker 1: What wound just got pripped? You know, because you have
Speaker 1: to go back into yourself and be like, okay, I
Speaker 1: could respond with fear and ego and just attack them
Speaker 1: and you know, throat punch them to the throat or
Speaker 1: I could you know, be graceful and choose love And
Speaker 1: how would you want to be treated in this first?
Speaker 1: You know, it's simple, it's fear of love people, and
Speaker 1: you haven't really especially when you're getting those moments, those
Speaker 1: moments where you want to cut somebody out or punch
Speaker 1: them in the throat. Taking ten always works. Taking it
Speaker 1: or not respond you know, or not even think about it.
Speaker 1: Put that thought away until you're less emotional. Amen to that,
Speaker 1: you're having the maturity and the wisdom to get above
Speaker 1: the thought. You know, not to get lost in the thought.
Speaker 1: If you say, you know what, life is not supposed
Speaker 1: to be painful. Life is supposed to be enjoyed, and
Speaker 1: this thought is not bringing me joy. Put it away
Speaker 1: until another the next day where you're a little less emotional,
Speaker 1: a little more for us, and then you could ask
Speaker 1: yourself those questions. So you're you're graceful with yourself. You're
Speaker 1: not beating yourself up, and you're not beating to what
Speaker 1: you guys are saying, like we don't have to take
Speaker 1: on that other person's what some in the injury or
Speaker 1: the whatever, the negativity they're putting on us with their words,
Speaker 1: like we don't have to pick up their trash. No,
Speaker 1: not your circus, not your monkey. That that is such
Speaker 1: good advice, just being in it but not of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm happy to provide you know, I'm happy to meet
Speaker 1: you halfway if you want to meet me, you know,
Speaker 1: but I'm not going to play by your negativity right, well,
Speaker 1: and you said you posted something very incredible like eye
Speaker 1: opening from me, and I think it was a quote
Speaker 1: from op Oprah over everything she says I about. Can
Speaker 1: we all sit down with Oprah? I am like wishing
Speaker 1: so badly right now because they're like be at the
Speaker 1: fining around the wall, like so I think it. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's not word for word, but basically, you're
Speaker 1: not only responsible for the energy that you bring to
Speaker 1: a situation in a conversation, but you're responsible for the
Speaker 1: energy that you allow into your space. Yeah, so well,
Speaker 1: and yeah, just choosing to say how do we protect
Speaker 1: our energy? Visualized? But what do you do when an
Speaker 1: energy sucker comes in and like you can't avoid them,
Speaker 1: so you like you have to work with them, or
Speaker 1: they're like a family member or like you know, like
Speaker 1: you can't escape them. Call them grenades or like terrorists.
Speaker 1: What do you do with it? What if you what
Speaker 1: if you have a constant grenade in your life that
Speaker 1: you can't get rid of because they're just in your life,
Speaker 1: what do you do with that? You have emotional go
Speaker 1: ahead emotional trainers. Is that what you were going to say?
Speaker 1: Boundaries okay, well feel like you. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: have to visualize kind of a technique, but I that
Speaker 1: I learned a long time ago. But it's like a
Speaker 1: grounding technique. You have to just give them their space
Speaker 1: and they are not allowed to penetrate your little bubble.
Speaker 1: What if they count into your bubble? What do you say?
Speaker 1: How do you protect yourself nicely? You just you show
Speaker 1: you treat you treat people with the way you want
Speaker 1: to be treated, period, you know, and you don't buy in.
Speaker 1: You could listen, but you don't have to to enable
Speaker 1: and by I love so there was I might have
Speaker 1: been Gabrielle Bernstein. It was a book on tape I
Speaker 1: was listening to. But I know me too. You do
Speaker 1: kind of her like so tiny and cute like her
Speaker 1: and just like the energy. Yes whatever, you know, it's
Speaker 1: funny because you will meet me. They're like I thought
Speaker 1: you were so much taller. I like, no, I could
Speaker 1: join a tiny person person um, but she's she called
Speaker 1: them emotional trainers or it was like basically like a
Speaker 1: like a personal trainer, emotional personal trainers. So people, God,
Speaker 1: the universe puts people in your life that rub you
Speaker 1: the wrong way and so it's almost like it's almost like, okay, God,
Speaker 1: they're your teacher. They're your teacher getting those nerves. Yes,
Speaker 1: and so I'm so annoying. I know. Oh wait, oh
Speaker 1: wait is she gab? Gabby? Gabby? What you what you
Speaker 1: It's something it's like what you avoid persists, what you
Speaker 1: resist persists? Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah truly. But you're
Speaker 1: so right, because I could there's all sorts of people
Speaker 1: in the world, but I don't care what they're doing.
Speaker 1: But then there's certain people who are in my life
Speaker 1: and they just hit that nerve, and especially when you
Speaker 1: can't escape them, they're just in your reality. It is
Speaker 1: a teacher. It's because you haven't healed that wound or
Speaker 1: learned that lessons something of yourself. Yeah, spot it, God
Speaker 1: bought it. You got it. I got it. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: from the good old you know, the spot I got it. Truly,
Speaker 1: if you see something of someone else that drives you crazy, actually,
Speaker 1: I think it's a fact. It's in you. It's a
Speaker 1: reflection of your own darkness. So what are we doing?
Speaker 1: I just see it like it is. That's what yeah says,
Speaker 1: you know what I do? And I really really like this,
Speaker 1: Like I was at a party and like, going back
Speaker 1: to the music thing being around really successful women, because
Speaker 1: I haven't had a lot of success, but you have, Yeah,
Speaker 1: depends on how let's how right, well in the sense
Speaker 1: of a record deal. I mean, okay, okay, I did
Speaker 1: that in quote because I truly feel like I have
Speaker 1: had success. You have had a lot. I've accomplished things
Speaker 1: that I want to accomplish, and success for me now
Speaker 1: is living from a place of love. So I'm successful,
Speaker 1: but in the quote unquote realm of what other people
Speaker 1: would deem as successful, like a number one or cuts
Speaker 1: on this artist or cuts on that artist. You know,
Speaker 1: I've had some cuts, but it hasn't been compared to
Speaker 1: other big female songwriters or other big um you know,
Speaker 1: artists in Nashville. And so being around a group of
Speaker 1: really music business driven people kind of makes me nervous
Speaker 1: sometimes and I will feel like less than So if
Speaker 1: I start to get into that mindset, I go to
Speaker 1: the bathroom and I breathe, and I just basically meditate
Speaker 1: for like a couple of minutes, and yes, bring myself
Speaker 1: back into a linement, into the center. Yes, And that's
Speaker 1: what I repeat to myself. I inhale worthiness and love
Speaker 1: and exhale the negativity of feeling less than and Gabby
Speaker 1: Bernstein also talks about this, but having like special people,
Speaker 1: like people that you almost hold on a pedestal above you, like,
Speaker 1: oh they're better than me, Like we are all different,
Speaker 1: but we are all one. We're all on the same
Speaker 1: playing field. Yes, why do we tits that special? I
Speaker 1: have special people too, and I'm like, you're not, So
Speaker 1: you know what it be like up there? I think
Speaker 1: having vulnerability removes those layers. I agree, and I feel
Speaker 1: like with you. It allows you to be an incredible artist.
Speaker 1: It allows you to put your heart out there in
Speaker 1: the world, but it also allows you to ground yourself.
Speaker 1: And maybe you should be feeling icky amongst you know,
Speaker 1: like certain industry people, and that's your indicator to you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm going to continue to pursue this with love.
Speaker 1: I'm going to continue to be authentic, and I'm going
Speaker 1: to continue to fight the good fight with my message
Speaker 1: and not be part of the issue in the industry.
Speaker 1: I agree everything you just said. Yes, you're wanting to
Speaker 1: be around other like minded artists and songwriters who are
Speaker 1: going for the same thing. So maybe if you feel
Speaker 1: like it's all about money and success. Maybe it feels
Speaker 1: griss to you because that's really not what your goal
Speaker 1: is now. Of course you want to have all of
Speaker 1: that support yourself. Yeah, but you're not going just to
Speaker 1: make money or have number one like you want to
Speaker 1: pack because you're getting your message out there from love. Absolutely, Yes,
Speaker 1: that's my I want to talk about forever. But we
Speaker 1: gotta wrap up because its almost an hour. So I
Speaker 1: always lead, leave my podcast and leave your light, and
Speaker 1: this whole thing has been straight inspiration. But just some
Speaker 1: what your intentions are, Like what you what you want
Speaker 1: people to walk away with from your lives, your existence?
Speaker 1: Like what you want people to know? Um so I
Speaker 1: guess since it isn't influencer podcast. Um yeah, like people
Speaker 1: who are trying to get into careers, y'all have very
Speaker 1: fabulous careers. Like how do you What would you say
Speaker 1: to someone who's like, oh, I'll never be like them,
Speaker 1: I could never have that, you know? And you can? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you know. It's really embracing the light within
Speaker 1: yourself and in doing that, you're not only going to
Speaker 1: further your life with so much substance and passion and
Speaker 1: exciting new magical moments every day you're going to lift
Speaker 1: up the people around you and going to build a
Speaker 1: tremendous community. And I think, you know that's my intention.
Speaker 1: My intention is connection and community and living a life
Speaker 1: of love and gratitude, which is you know, I think
Speaker 1: every day. And it's a practice. It's a daily press.
Speaker 1: It is a practice. It's like you have to keep
Speaker 1: going to the gym to work out. You can't just stop.
Speaker 1: You can't just get these spiritual lessons and then be done.
Speaker 1: You got to work on it every day, every single day. Well,
Speaker 1: and it's it's what has allowed us all to be
Speaker 1: here on this couch today. And we think this is
Speaker 1: only the second time Sarah and I have hung out
Speaker 1: with you, and but it was immediately a connection because
Speaker 1: we all have this soul drive. Um, so I could
Speaker 1: along the ones of what you said basically, but you know,
Speaker 1: just kind of aligning with your your light inside and
Speaker 1: not focusing on the amount of followers you have or
Speaker 1: the amount of people you can impact, and not not
Speaker 1: allowing that to stifle you from being you. Like, by
Speaker 1: you being off authentically you, by you being real and vulnerable,
Speaker 1: you are empowering other people to live their authentic, real,
Speaker 1: vulnerable life. And I think that is probably one of
Speaker 1: the most important things that we are put on this
Speaker 1: earth for is to be our embrace our light, be ourselves,
Speaker 1: expose ourselves so that other people feel comfortable being themselves.
Speaker 1: Um yeah, and using that and like I said, not listening,
Speaker 1: not looking at it like, oh, I only have like
Speaker 1: two hundred followers or what. That's two hundred people that
Speaker 1: you can impact for the better. Focus on that, not
Speaker 1: on what you don't have. And I think it's leaving
Speaker 1: this creative realm in this this world, you know, a
Speaker 1: better place. I feel like if we can inspire the
Speaker 1: next generation to rise up even stronger and you know,
Speaker 1: with more force, and to be more fearless and more
Speaker 1: courageous and to pursue their craft internally and you know,
Speaker 1: create that unity, I think that's a beautiful thing. I
Speaker 1: think y'all are beautiful things. I thank y'all are beautiful things.
Speaker 1: I love you guys. This is such a great interview.
Speaker 1: Thank you for joining me. I thank you for having
Speaker 1: us my soul inspired influencers. I'm so grateful we are.
Speaker 1: Thank you for joining me on the Love is Here.
Speaker 1: How amazing was that conversation was that not so inspiring
Speaker 1: and inspired me so much to hear back and to
Speaker 1: be a part of it. And I'm so grateful that
Speaker 1: I have friends like Sarah and Melissa. They make me
Speaker 1: want to be a better person and keep working hard
Speaker 1: to fulfill my purpose. So I hope that you got
Speaker 1: that same inspiration from that conversation. Next week, the Influencer Series,
Speaker 1: It's still on, y'all. This is going on and on
Speaker 1: because I have so many incredible influencer friends. I have
Speaker 1: a couple joining me next week, Miles and his beautiful
Speaker 1: wife Vanessa. I become friends with Vanessa through this influencer world.
Speaker 1: She is so incredible. She's a mom, blogger, and actress.
Speaker 1: She does everything. She moved here from l A. She
Speaker 1: met her husband, Miles at the tavern. They have incredible
Speaker 1: love story. He also heals people. He has all sorts
Speaker 1: of ways that he helps people's souls through his on
Speaker 1: site clinic, which is where you can go and actually
Speaker 1: have a stay for a week and help heal yourself,
Speaker 1: deal with your wounds. Grow. But together, there's such a
Speaker 1: power couple and they're an example of how to be
Speaker 1: a great couple, how to work together how to grow
Speaker 1: your own self, how to grow together. They have a kid.
Speaker 1: I love them, obviously, I'm obsessed. I can't stop talking
Speaker 1: about him. So y'all tune in next week for Vanessa
Speaker 1: and Miles ad Cox. They're the best.