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Speaker 1: Well, hello everybody, it's me Rosie O'Donnell, and you've found

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Speaker 1: us again right here wherever you get your podcasts, it's

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Speaker 1: onward with me, your host, Rosie o'donnald, And I am

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Speaker 1: so excited to tell you a couple of things that's

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Speaker 1: my big conversation of the day or of the week. Actually,

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Speaker 1: I got my new car. I got my new car today.

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Speaker 1: I went and picked it up. You know, the dashboard

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Speaker 1: This was nineteen seventy four. It was right after my

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Speaker 1: And she's she's a fighter, she's an activist, she's an amazing,

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Speaker 1: We tape this a couple of weeks ago. So when

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Speaker 1: And she was electrifying on stage. She was magical, and

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Speaker 1: Here's the conversation. How are you? I'm so happy to

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Speaker 2: I'm ready for somebody to be here. I was telling

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Speaker 1: That's that's a good brother to have. You know, my

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Speaker 2: Well, I have a tax person, but I take my

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Speaker 3: But I don't let anybody touch my money.

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Speaker 2: I had both my parents, but there were six of us,

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Speaker 1: Makes it terrifying. Yes, that young boy Ralph shot in

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Speaker 3: It's it's blatant racism.

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Speaker 1: So how you look? You look good stuff? So you

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Speaker 1: Correct, How is that happening? How was that allowed to happen?

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Speaker 1: How are we not treating people with basic human dignity anymore?

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Speaker 2: Respect and human kindness is at all time low. The industry,

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Speaker 2: All these different movements, but nothing really changes, do you think, ROSSI.

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Speaker 2: About the black people. They're trying to really put us

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Speaker 1: You're not kidding, honey, You are not kidding, you know.

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Speaker 2: And I tell people that, Neil like, oh, you're crazy.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, if you don't pay attention to what's going

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Speaker 2: they're changing, yes, you are going to be picking cotton.

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Speaker 1: Honey. I am so with you. It is so unbelievably

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Speaker 1: systemically racist. Yes, everyone says because the systems don't work. No,

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Speaker 1: that's how they were built that they bill to do

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Speaker 1: and community and dignity and humanity from groups of people.

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Speaker 1: And and you know, black people in America. I would

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Speaker 1: be enraged. I'm enraged, and I am white.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's not safe to be black in America.

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Speaker 1: It's not was it ever?

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Speaker 2: Really though Stephanie has no, it's never been, agree with you,

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Speaker 2: but they tried to camouflage it.

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Speaker 1: Of course.

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Speaker 2: You know, we have the ku klutz Klan in the

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Speaker 3: Yes, it is yes, And to me, he should have

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Speaker 1: And you know, nuance is dead. God forbid. You should

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Speaker 2: And I didn't let he's not on any medication. I

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Speaker 1: Oh you would? This boy is all heart.

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Speaker 3: I want to meet him one day.

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Speaker 1: Now are you still in la or did you know.

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Speaker 2: I'm in Charlotte. I've been living in Charlotte, North Carolina?

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Speaker 1: How long?

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Speaker 2: For over thirty something years?

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Speaker 1: I did not know that.

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Speaker 2: Stephanie Mills for Rod was born here in Charlotte, North Carolina,

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Speaker 2: and I just raised him. He's upstairs and he has

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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm Hazel the Maid because he'll come

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Speaker 2: Then he's back upstairs in his man cave. But he's

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Speaker 2: I tell you, it makes you a better person, it

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Speaker 1: Yes, and I always you that I would be a mother.

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Speaker 1: Did you always want to? Or was this the he

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Speaker 2: Wow, And I did captain Kangaroo and the Electric Company

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Speaker 2: I was seventeen years old when I and you know what,

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Speaker 1: So I was like, no, I don't want to go.

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Speaker 3: For five years.

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Speaker 2: But you know what, Rosie, I gotta thank you, because

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Speaker 2: Well they gave me that role after that, and I

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Speaker 1: Oh well, Stephanie Mills, you can sing to me any

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Speaker 1: day or night. I would pay money to see you

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Speaker 2: But I used to listen to all kinds of music

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Speaker 2: love all kinds and I loved Barbara streisand because she

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Speaker 2: was from Brooklyn and she went to a Rasmus and

441
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,439
Speaker 2: my sister and brother went to a Rasmus, so I

442
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 2: was like a fan and I would just listen to

443
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Speaker 2: all kinds of songs.

444
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Speaker 4: Right.

445
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Speaker 1: Isn't it wild that we came up in our life

446
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,879
Speaker 1: at the time of the success of Barbara streisand like,

447
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 1: know we be Oh my gosh, all of these performers

448
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,919
Speaker 1: in our sixties or fifties, you know, fifties that she

449
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 1: was the models, Like when she's sang, I'm the greatest star.

450
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 1: Yes you are, Yes, like it remains to this day.

451
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 2: Right, funny lady, funny girl, funny what's up?

452
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Speaker 1: Doc? For Pete's sake, the way we were, Oh, the

453
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 1: way we were, Kate Hubble, Oh my goodness. Now when

454
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: you were doing the Whiz and you were seventeen, were

455
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 1: people like that coming to the show?

456
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Speaker 2: Yes?

457
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: Did you meet all these people at seventeen?

458
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 2: I met Alan McGaw and Steve McQueen, Oh my gosh,

459
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 2: Jackie o' nassis and Caroline Kennedy, Billy Preston and David Bowie.

460
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Speaker 3: Everybody who was anybody came to the show. It was

461
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 3: so amazing.

462
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 2: But you know what, I was just a little black

463
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:33,199
Speaker 2: girl singing and having fun. I didn't look at it like,

464
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Speaker 2: oh my god, I didn't. I just I was having

465
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Speaker 2: fun and I was singing because I was always singing

466
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Speaker 2: in church. So I was like, this is just another

467
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 2: avenue for me to sing to a.

468
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Speaker 3: Lot of people.

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Speaker 1: Well, the thing about your performance. I remember you were

470
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Speaker 1: so young, you know what I was like, You're right

471
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Speaker 1: around that age. I remember looking at you and thinking,

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Speaker 1: she has so much joy. Yes, you were filled with

473
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Speaker 1: joy in that performance, in your youth and your exist

474
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Speaker 1: and I think your nonchalant kind of way of was

475
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: so real for playing a kid.

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Speaker 4: You know.

477
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Speaker 1: Yes, it was surprising you didn't get nominated for a

478
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Speaker 1: Tony for that. That was very weird. Well, they didn't like.

479
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Speaker 2: Me, really, I mean Clyde Bonds gave me a terrible

480
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 2: review back then, and they.

481
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Speaker 1: Didn't like me.

482
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Speaker 3: But you know, I never went.

483
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Speaker 2: Along with what you're supposed to do in the business

484
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 2: to get ahead, you know what I'm saying. I never, like,

485
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 2: I didn't kiss ass. I don't know how to do that.

486
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 1: You know.

487
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Speaker 2: I know how to be professional and do my job right,

488
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Speaker 2: but I don't know how to smooth. I never I

489
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 2: never did, and in this business that really counts for a.

490
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Speaker 1: Lot, it really does, you know. And I'm never really

491
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Speaker 1: a schmoozer either. Whenever I when I would host the

492
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Speaker 1: Tony's or the Grammys, I would go home right after

493
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Speaker 1: and never go to the party, because I like, I'm

494
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 1: uncomfortable in parties. I people always think, no, you're rosy O'Donnell.

495
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 1: You would be No. I'd rather go home after I

496
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 1: perform than and go and try to talk to the

497
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: other performers, because sometimes it's hard. You get tongue tag,

498
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: you get nervous, and they're so fake some most of them,

499
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Speaker 1: some of them, some of them, you know, and it's

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Speaker 1: it's interesting. When I left my show, people were like,

501
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: why could you leave your shout? And like, I got

502
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 1: sick of talking to only celebrities, you know, it got

503
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: to be my world perspective was changed. Here in LA

504
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: when you meet someone, they're always in show business, right.

505
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 1: And in New York, where I grew up, where I,

506
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 1: you know, was raised, you'd meet a doctor and a

507
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: garbage van and the guy who cleans the sewers, and

508
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: a you know, a lawyer right on the bus on

509
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: the way to work or school or right. It was

510
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: a whole different kind of experience. And I got sick

511
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 1: of just talking to people who only had that one

512
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 1: thing that was important to them. I wanted a bigger

513
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 1: a bigger breach, you know, a bigger You wanted.

514
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,439
Speaker 2: Them to talk about something other than the movie or themselves.

515
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,719
Speaker 2: But so many people are afraid to talk about politics,

516
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 2: are afraid to talk about what's really going on in

517
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 2: the world. And as I've gotten older, I'm like, I'm

518
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 2: sixty six years old, what can they really do to me?

519
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I feel, Steph. That's how I heard

520
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 1: you say that on Charlemagne the God. Oh I heard

521
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: you you said it. I was like, cheering you on

522
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 1: from home going. You are exactly right. That's totally how

523
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 1: I feel.

524
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, what.

525
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: Are they going to do? Here? We are, here, We're

526
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 1: gonna do Yeah, here we are.

527
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 3: What are they going to do?

528
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 2: It's like you have to especially you have a child

529
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 2: and you have children.

530
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Speaker 3: I would have loved to have more children.

531
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Speaker 2: And I tried after Arrah because he was so cute,

532
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, I could do this again,

533
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 2: but I didn't get pregnant. But I just think when

534
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 2: you have a child and you pay attention to what's

535
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 2: going on, it means more. You know. It's like, I

536
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 2: can't just talk about frivolous things, and yes, I want

537
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 2: to say what's really factual, and if I get canceled

538
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 2: or whatever by that, then that's I'm I'm real and

539
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,959
Speaker 2: I believe in God, and God gave me my talent.

540
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 2: And people that I knew and was around no longer here, right,

541
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 2: because I feel like they couldn't say no to the

542
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 2: toxic people that were around them, you know, like Michael

543
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 2: all Whitney or and I feel for them, and I

544
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 2: was so sad, you know, when they passed away.

545
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 3: And I'm still here.

546
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 2: And sometimes I say, why am I still here?

547
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: Because I didn't play that game. I wasn't in that circle, right,

548
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 1: and you didn't fall into the gross excess. I had

549
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: been in the series last year and it was a

550
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 1: lot of work. It was an hour series. And I

551
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 1: have this ten year old here that I'm got to

552
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: be here for, you know, got to be here little

553
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: interpreter in the on the planet till she gets her

554
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 1: bearings better, you know. Right. She's very verbal stuff. You

555
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: could die laughing from what she says. But she has

556
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: specific interests and if you're not in those interests of

557
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 1: her animation object shows that she watches on YouTube and

558
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 1: discusses every aspect of them, Yes to the who wrote them,

559
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: what episode, what voice? It's crazy and it's beautiful. And

560
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: so I go in with her into the world of

561
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: that and there we live happily together.

562
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 2: You know, my son is exactly the same way. He

563
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 2: loves the descendants. He loves all these movies and videos

564
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 2: and he has to have them when he goes on

565
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 2: the road with him. He even sleeps in the bed

566
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 2: with them, like he has his little CDs in life.

567
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 2: But even as a child, he would bring Shrek and

568
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 2: he has all those and Donkey and all of them

569
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 2: to bed with it, right, And I'd be like, oh God,

570
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 2: I got to sleep with all these hard toys. But

571
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 2: I would because that's who he was. You know. We

572
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 2: come in the middle of the night and come into

573
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 2: my room. But it's such a joy because it's normal

574
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 2: and it's natural, and that's what we have.

575
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 3: To do for our children.

576
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: Yes, and sometimes you know, I know for so many

577
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: mothers of special needs kids like us, you know, we

578
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: worry what's going to happen when I'm not here? You know,

579
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: are they going to be able to do it on

580
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: their own? But you're gonna you know, you can't live

581
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: in that fear, right you have to live staying right

582
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: here with them in all the fear and pain. You

583
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: have to push away.

584
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 2: Right now and and you have to make sure you

585
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 2: have a will and trust and trust them into somebody

586
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 2: that you know will take care of them, and you

587
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 2: will love them. But you, like you say, you have

588
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 2: to leave it alone. And because they're so precious and

589
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 2: they're so innocent, you know, and and he just loves

590
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 2: He doesn't mean a stranger.

591
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 3: But he can tell when someone's not right. He won't

592
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 3: he won't engage with them.

593
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: It's an interesting talents. Yes, that's a great thing to have.

594
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 3: He will not engage.

595
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, protective instinct.

596
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 3: Yes, yes.

597
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: I saw him with you on I think a Tamaron

598
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: Hall show. Yeah, you were dancing. Oh my god, I

599
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: was sobbing. Everybody was crying, the audience, me, you, the kid, everyone,

600
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: But it was so it's so beautiful. I love how

601
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: he moves. I love his cute face. I love his

602
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: style of clothes. He's got such a personality. Thank you.

603
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 2: And they told me, they told me he was going

604
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 2: to be disfigured. They said, your child is going to

605
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 2: be disfigured. He's not going to really respond, he won't smile.

606
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 2: What a farce that was?

607
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: That was a lie.

608
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 2: That was a lie. It was that was a blatant

609
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 2: line of blaytant lie, a blatant.

610
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: Lie, and we have to really be on the lookout

611
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: for those blatant lies, you know. Yeah, And when something

612
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: is just a blatant lie, we have to you know,

613
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: like they rigged the election was stolen, like our government

614
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: Layton Layton lie.

615
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 2: And how they perpetuated it.

616
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: Oh, please, you know it's that that Hitler quote. Do

617
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: you tell a lie, tell a big lie, and keep

618
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: telling it and people will eventually believe. And that's what

619
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: they did. That's like a philosophy of the head Nazi.

620
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: And that's what Donald Trump does government. That's what he does. Yeah,

621
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: and government, it's not you can't really blame it only

622
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: on him, you know. You have to really know that

623
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: this government that we've had for the last twenty years

624
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: gave us him. So are we doing what are we

625
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,479
Speaker 1: doing wrong? And how can we make sure that an

626
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: error like this never occurs again?

627
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 2: I know That's what I've been thinking. I'm like, how

628
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 2: can we He cannot get in the White House? I

629
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 2: know that, please, he cannot.

630
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think that. I really don't

631
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: think that's possible, especially because but Rose, there are so

632
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: many more indictments coming up.

633
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 2: But people didn't think he was going to be president

634
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 2: the first.

635
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: Time, including me stuff I never thought. I said to

636
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: every reporter who would put a camera near me, he

637
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: will never be president, And there he was. I don't

638
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: really understand how someone could be so innately cruel and

639
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: lack basic human compassion and empathy and be the leader

640
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: of the free world. How did that happen?

641
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 3: I don't know.

642
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: And it's not just in the United States. They're fighting

643
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: it in Israel, right they're fighting for their democracy. They're

644
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: fighting in Paris. People are done with what we have

645
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: all done exactly to this point. Then it has to

646
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: be a radical consciousness shift. Radical. I really wish that

647
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: you lived here so we could hang out. Oh, my

648
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: kids would probably get along so well. They would get

649
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: anybody into computer she wants to talk to. And he

650
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: is into computer's folds. He knows how to work all

651
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: that stuff.

652
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 2: Because I could go upstairs and if Rod something is

653
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 2: wrong with this or what, and he'll fix it.

654
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 3: But when his computer is is well, he'll call Derek.

655
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 2: Derek, my computer is not working. Derek comes over and

656
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 2: fixes it, but he couldn't get it back online.

657
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 3: But he's just amazing. He's he's so special.

658
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: Would you say, it's the greatest gift and.

659
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 3: You're the greatest. It's the best thing I've ever done.

660
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 2: I wouldn't change anything about him, nothing.

661
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: And I venture to say, you never knew love like.

662
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 2: This, And I never never knew ever, never, never, never never.

663
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Speaker 3: When he was a baby, I put that around his

664
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,479
Speaker 3: little room when he would sleep in it. But he

665
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 3: never slept in there anyway. You always slept with me.

666
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: But same with Dakota. She's still in my bed.

667
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 2: She's ten, you know, for Audus twenty two, but he

668
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 2: only comes when he gets sick.

669
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 3: He'll come and he'll want to sleep in my bed

670
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 3: when he gets sick. But that's it.

671
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: It's funny. We chose this room, we chose the room

672
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: in this house that we're renting, and she chose the

673
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: room by the parkway, by the freeway, and you know,

674
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: there's like the Pacific Coast Highway right here, right, and

675
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: so she always goes in her bed, says good night.

676
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: Then ten minutes later she goes it's too much traffic

677
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: and gets in my bed. But that's what she does

678
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: every night. Every night she realizes it's too much.

679
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 3: It's too much traffic. That is so funny.

680
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 2: When I come to LA to do a show, because

681
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 2: I come to do a show, I want you to come.

682
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: When are you're going on tour? When are you going?

683
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: I leave?

684
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 3: I leave the end of this month.

685
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: Well, Steph, you know I couldn't love you more. I

686
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: feel like I've known you my whole life, even though

687
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: I watched you on stage and gotten to hang with

688
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: you a couple times. But I feel so close to

689
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: you when when I see you talking on all these

690
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: interviews you do, I'm so cheering you on. You're so

691
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: You're inspiring to me, Stephanie Mills. I hope you know that.

692
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 1: Thank you.

693
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 2: You're inspiring to me because I've watched you all the

694
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 2: time your show, The View. I loved it when you

695
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 2: put people in their place and get them right, because

696
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: people don't do that and they're so disrespectful and you

697
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 2: never let them disrespect you, and I like that.

698
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: Thank you, Stephanie Mills.

699
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 2: I love you, Rosie, I love you too.

700
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: This was so great. We'll be back right after this

701
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: break with some questions from you the listeners. So we're

702
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: back and listen, you the listener, please leave us a

703
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: little memo, A question, A thought of feeling whatever you

704
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: want on about the show, and we'll get to it

705
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: if we can. And we have a couple of you

706
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: listeners with your questions and comments. Let's hit it. Hey,

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00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: ro It's Patrick in New York City.

708
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 5: I do have a question, but I wanted to say first,

709
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 5: I saw you at Sweeney Todd the night you were there.

710
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 5: I have a friend in the show too, so we

711
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 5: got to stay after and we were all sort of like,

712
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 5: you know, it's like thirty people milling about in the house,

713
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 5: and I saw you, and I had chills from being

714
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 5: that close to you. I am You're such an icon

715
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 5: and an inspiration and I love you so much. And

716
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 5: of course I wasn't going to bother you and say hello,

717
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 5: because I'm a New Yorker and we don't do that.

718
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 5: But I was looking at you, and I just love

719
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 5: you so much. So here's my question. I was listening

720
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 5: to your conversation with Cameron Manheim about the Chosen Family

721
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 5: and the way you all had kids. My husband and

722
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 5: I adopted our daughter through foster care.

723
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: She came to us at six days old.

724
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 5: We've been the only parents she's ever known, and but

725
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 5: you know, we've always been open with her about her story,

726
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 5: of course, and we did have some you know, interaction

727
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 5: with her birth parents going through the foster process.

728
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 1: But only briefly.

729
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 5: And she is always interested in knowing about her mom,

730
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 5: and of course we have very limited information. She's nine now,

731
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,919
Speaker 5: and the other night, now that Mother's Day is coming up,

732
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 5: she asked if we could write a Mother's Day card

733
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 5: to her birth mother, and you know, I kind of

734
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 5: didn't know how to answer. My husband right away said sure,

735
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 5: and I thought, oh wow. You know, his thinking was like,

736
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 5: maybe it'll be like writing a letter to the tooth

737
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 5: Fairy or Santa Claus. You just want to say something

738
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 5: nice and then you never think about it again. I

739
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 5: was thinking, oh god, if she writes like a card

740
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 5: to her birth mother, she's going to expect a response.

741
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 5: And so I said, well, sweetheart, you know, we're not

742
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 5: in contact with your birth mother. And we talked a

743
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 5: little bit about the birth mom, you know, again all

744
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 5: the same few things we know about her, and of

745
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 5: course made it clear that she can always ask us

746
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 5: any questions about it. But I'm curious your thoughts on this.

747
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 5: She's nine, She's not old enough to really have a

748
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 5: full conversation with about why she was, you know, in

749
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 5: foster care, why she came to us, why you know

750
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 5: her parents weren't.

751
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: Able to raise her.

752
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 5: And I guess my question is just what's your advice

753
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 5: on how to proceed in this conversation in instances like that?

754
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 5: Your parenting role model and inspiration for me you always have been.

755
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 5: I love you so so so much. Thank you for

756
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 5: making this podcast. I love that I get to hear

757
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 5: your voice every week. All right, thanks Roe?

758
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: Oh God, I love you so much. I feel like

759
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: I know you first of all the way you said

760
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: hey Roe, I'm like, that's my buddy right there. I

761
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: wish you would have come over to me after seeing

762
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: Sweeney Todd and you know, Barry Manilow was there too.

763
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: Wasn't that a magically brilliant show? Every performance was pitch perfect?

764
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: That Annalie Ashford should win every award known to man,

765
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: and Josh Grobin is just a genius. And I hope

766
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: that they both get the trophies and the accolades that

767
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: they deserve because they're just so brilliant. Now, what a

768
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: wonderful kind of story and question about your daughter. I

769
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: have always felt that honesty is the best policy and

770
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: having a mother who left not on her own volition,

771
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: but you know, there is that abandonment that kids feel,

772
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,720
Speaker 1: especially when they're too young to fully understand death and

773
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: the transient nature of life itself. One promise that the

774
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: world keeps to everyone is you're going to die one day.

775
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,280
Speaker 1: You know, that's the only promise that we all get,

776
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 1: and that never ever changes. And so I would be

777
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: immensely curious if there was a way that I could

778
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 1: possibly talk to my mom. And I know my mom

779
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: died and it's a different thing, but that sort of

780
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:51,439
Speaker 1: allowed me the freedom and the understanding of just how

781
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: deep that primal wound of adoption is for children, and

782
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: how it's our job as their pa parents to tell

783
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: them that their parents loved them, they loved them, and

784
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: they weren't able to be parents because they weren't ready

785
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: and prepared, and that you were wanted and they did

786
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: want you, and they do care about you and love you.

787
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: They're not in our family right now, but when you

788
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: get to be a grown up and you're an adult,

789
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: you can have any kind of conversation that you want

790
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: with your birth mother. Strangely enough, the only one who

791
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: ever really asked to speak to their birth parents when

792
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: they were young, which is what your child has done.

793
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,439
Speaker 1: Was Dakota when she was five. She was very, very

794
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,760
Speaker 1: verbal since she was little, and she often had questions

795
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: about her tummy. Lady. That's what I call the birth moms.

796
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: When my kids were little, I said, you grew in

797
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: another lady's tummy, and that's your tummy, mommy, and your

798
00:39:55,480 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: tummy lady, and she carried you, and she knew that

799
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 1: she wasn't able to be a mommy, and so God

800
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: looked in the tummy and found you your right match

801
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 1: for your mommy. And that's me. That's what I always

802
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: told my kid. But at five years old, Dakota asked

803
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 1: to speak to her birth mother. So I got in

804
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: touch with her, and that was an open adoption. My

805
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: other adoptions were closed because twenty something years ago it

806
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 1: was done very differently than it's done now. She wanted

807
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: to speak to her birth mother. Now, the birth mother

808
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: didn't have a phone that could do FaceTime. Dakota could

809
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,720
Speaker 1: see the birth mother, but she talked into the phone

810
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,439
Speaker 1: and saw an image of her, and she said, Hi,

811
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: do you remember me. I'm the baby that was in

812
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: your tummy. I just wanted you to know that when

813
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: I got born, my mommy held my hand and I

814
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: grabbed her pinky and I wouldn't let it go. And

815
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: that's my mommy and that's where I am now. And

816
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: I just wanted to tell you that, so you know,

817
00:40:54,880 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: thanks by, And she walked away, she said, which you

818
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: needed to say, walked away and has never really brought

819
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: it up again. And it's a hard concept, but you

820
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: have to realize when you adopt, even from foster care,

821
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: in any way you adopt a child, there's been a

822
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 1: tragedy that precipitated your union. There's a tragedy there. There's

823
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: a wound and an abandonment and a feeling that adoptees

824
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: have often of being displaced, of not fitting in anywhere,

825
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: of not knowing who they are or what their origin

826
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: story really is. So I would encourage her. I would

827
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,919
Speaker 1: encourage her, and I would get some books and read

828
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: books about adoption to her and have her write down

829
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: her feelings. And like your husband said, you know, the

830
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: answer to that question, can I write a Mother's daycard

831
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: to my birth mother? Is yes, you certainly can. And

832
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: then you're going to promise to try to get it

833
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: to her, but whether or not you still have the

834
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: ability to do that, and if you can't send it

835
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 1: to her, that you keep them for your daughter for

836
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 1: when she gets older, or you keep a copy so

837
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: that she can have an understanding of her yearnings and

838
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 1: her desire to get to know that part of her

839
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: life of herself. It's not really about you. It's about

840
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: the child. It's not about whether or not you had

841
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: feelings of rejection or competition or that's what you feel

842
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: is really irrelevant. It's what the child feels and how

843
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 1: you can best provide a safe environment for them to

844
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:35,280
Speaker 1: share their feelings in life with you about such a deep,

845
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: deep issue. Good for you, honey. You got any more questions,

846
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 1: send them my way. I'd love to hear what happens.

847
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 1: I'd love to hear what went down with all of that,

848
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: and how did Mother's Day go for you boys? And

849
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: congratulations and next time, give me a big hug when

850
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: you see me on Broadway. Okay, all right, we got

851
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: another question. Here we go. Hit it.

852
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 4: Hi, Rosie, my name's Kate. I just listened to your

853
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 4: Ricky Lake episode and in it you talked about Melissa

854
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 4: Ethridge's off Broadway show In New York. I actually ran

855
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 4: into you there, and you and your friend were so

856
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 4: kind to talk to me for a minute about teaching. Anyway,

857
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 4: my question is about music. I remember on your TV

858
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 4: show you had Melissa Ethridge on the show and you

859
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 4: played drums. Well, she's saying enough of me, and I

860
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 4: think the joke of the episode was like that she

861
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 4: was letting you play the drums even though you didn't

862
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 4: know how, and I don't know, it seemed to me

863
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 4: like you did know how, and so I was just wondering, like,

864
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 4: how did you learn how to play the drums or

865
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 4: any other instruments, And what's your relationship with music like

866
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 4: these days? What have you been listening to? Thanks Rosie,

867
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 4: and thanks so much for talking to me that day.

868
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 4: It meant a lot. You mean a lot.

869
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: Well, thank you. That's so sweet. Yes, I do know

870
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 1: how to play the drums. I wanted to take drums

871
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Speaker 1: when I was in elementary school, and my mother said

872
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: I couldn't because it was a boy's thing to do.

873
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: And then she went in the hospital and so I

874
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: forged the permission slip and I took percussion and she

875
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: found out about it when she was ill and had

876
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,240
Speaker 1: not long to live and she was definitely not happy.

877
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 1: And my older brother Eddie said, you know, it's not drums,

878
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: it's percussion, and she said, do you think I'm stupid?

879
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: You know? I remember, I remember she got angry, you know,

880
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: but the fact that she didn't want me to do

881
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 1: it made me practice every single day because I wanted

882
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: to get really good at it. I wanted to tell

883
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: her about it when when she came back. So the

884
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: joke with Melissa is that I always ask can I

885
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: sing back up? Can I play drums for you? But,

886
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: like you know, serious musicians, that's kind of insulting to say,

887
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: you know, can I play uh with you? But you know,

888
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: my friend Cindy Lauper, let's be go on tour and

889
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 1: play drums with her. And Melissa has allowed me on

890
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: TV and Wainona has let me sing back up with her.

891
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: And those are the people I love. I love their music.

892
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,959
Speaker 1: I love Joni Mitchell. A. Music has been a huge

893
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: part of my life and career and just part of

894
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: my artistry. Like the music is always underscoring everything. And

895
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: my favorite, of course is Joni Mitchell. She scores the

896
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: emotional truth of my life. That woman has so there

897
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: you go and listen. Next week, we have something special

898
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: for you. A rapper who's like thirty three years old

899
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 1: and he's one of the biggest rappers in the world.

900
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: He goes by the name Logic. His real name is

901
00:45:54,760 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: Bobby and he is the nicest, the most talented, the kindest,

902
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: the sweetest guy. And his records, I mean, that's how

903
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 1: you know. I'm old. His CDs, his albums is whatever.

904
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: His music is just so remarkable. And I didn't know

905
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: who he was. I met him at a restaurant. He

906
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,919
Speaker 1: paid for my dinner, and I never got to say

907
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,439
Speaker 1: hello to him. And now we met people who knew

908
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: people each other, and here he is talking to me,

909
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: and I was so excited to get to really discover him.

910
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: And he's been out for a long time and I

911
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: should have known who he was, but I did not.

912
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 1: But god do I love this guy. I love him

913
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: And he's next week right here on onward with Rosie O'Donnell.

914
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: Thank you all for checking us out and for downloading.

915
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,240
Speaker 1: I appreciate you doing that for us, So thank you all,

916
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Speaker 1: and we'll catch you next Tuesday with Logic.