WEBVTT - #811 Packers Unscripted: Close call in Chicago

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from

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<v Speaker 1>Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spoffer, joined as always

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<v Speaker 1>by my partner in crime, Wes Hodkins. We're coming to

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<v Speaker 1>you hear from our studios at lambeau Field to discuss Wes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet another down to the wire victory by the Green

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<v Speaker 1>Bay Packers is the third one this season the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>have won at the buzzer, so to speak, and this

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<v Speaker 1>one a blocked field goal at Soldier Field to beat

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<v Speaker 1>the Chicago Bears twenty to nineteen. Everything on that final

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<v Speaker 1>drive the Bears, you know, getting out of the third

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<v Speaker 1>and nineteen, they convert on fourth and short, They get

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<v Speaker 1>themselves in position and it's looking like, okay. The Packers

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<v Speaker 1>have won a couple games on walkoff field goals. Now

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to lose one on walk off field goal.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, Carl Brooks gets the hand up there, gets

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<v Speaker 1>the fingertip on the football and the Packers survive.

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<v Speaker 2>The Cardiac pack two pointo is what I've been calling

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<v Speaker 2>this to my father the past week. Wow, it just

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<v Speaker 2>it seems like every way the Packers could win a

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<v Speaker 2>football game this year, they've done it. And I am

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<v Speaker 2>not above telling you exactly what was going through my

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<v Speaker 2>head at the end of that game. Because the Cairo

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<v Speaker 2>Santos is in a very accomplished kicker. It's been doing

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<v Speaker 2>it for a long time now. In this league. People

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<v Speaker 2>forget the issues that the Bears had trying to find

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<v Speaker 2>a kicker after Robbie Gold. Santos is the one that

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<v Speaker 2>ended that carousel for them, right and has held down

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<v Speaker 2>that job for multiple years now. I hate to be

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<v Speaker 2>a pessimist. I love being a half glass, half full guy.

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<v Speaker 2>But I had a running game story to write. You

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<v Speaker 2>were doing a final recap. I was getting ready for

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<v Speaker 2>a Packers loss in terms of writing my stuff and

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<v Speaker 2>getting stuff ready so we could get down to the

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<v Speaker 2>locker room. I was ill prepared for handling a potential game.

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<v Speaker 2>Missing a field goal is one thing, but then a

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<v Speaker 2>game winning field goal block, the first one since your

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<v Speaker 2>great grandfather was what traversing the halls of Washington.

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<v Speaker 1>DC something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, nineteen thirty nine, the last time the Packers have

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<v Speaker 2>won a football game off a field goal block on

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<v Speaker 2>the last play of the game against the world renowned

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<v Speaker 2>Cleveland Rams and they got the job done. Man, And

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<v Speaker 2>how many times have I written this season, including in

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<v Speaker 2>Tuesday's Inbox. It just doesn't matter. Just win the game.

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<v Speaker 2>And this was probably the best, biggest example of it all.

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<v Speaker 2>You do not apologize, You do not take any style

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<v Speaker 2>points and try to add them into the victory or

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<v Speaker 2>massage it any other way other than the sack. The

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<v Speaker 2>Packers won the game, and they continued in unprecedented eleven

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<v Speaker 2>straight victories over the Chicago Bears.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the history oracle note I wanted to pivot

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<v Speaker 1>to because this falls in the category of you can't

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<v Speaker 1>make this stuff up. Twenty five years ago at lambeau Field,

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<v Speaker 1>the Chicago Bears came into Green Bay having lost ten

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<v Speaker 1>in a row to the Packers, and they break the

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<v Speaker 1>streak of ten straight losses to the Packers on Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Robinson's block of Ryan Longwell's chip shot a twenty eight yarder.

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<v Speaker 1>The Packers sat on the ball, twenty eight yarder. This

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be a win, Brian Robinson, the hand

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<v Speaker 1>of Walter Walter Payton had passed away earlier in the week.

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<v Speaker 1>The hand of Walter blocks the field goal, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Bears break their ten game losing streak in the rivalry.

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<v Speaker 1>Fast forward to Sunday at Soldier Field, and the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>have won ten straight, and the Bears are lining up

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<v Speaker 1>for the field goal to break the ten game losing streak,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Packers blocked the field goal to make it

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<v Speaker 1>eleven in a row, the first time in the history

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<v Speaker 1>of the NFL's oldest rivalry that one team has won

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<v Speaker 1>eleven straight. But breaking this game down a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>further offensively first, for Green Bay. I came out of

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<v Speaker 1>this I came out of this game just with a

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<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of mixed feelings about the offense. Because if

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<v Speaker 1>you had told me we had talked all week last

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<v Speaker 1>week and I was the one stressing it, the Bears

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<v Speaker 1>were the number one red zone defense, the Packers were

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<v Speaker 1>the number twenty nine red zone offense. That was the

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<v Speaker 1>situational matchup that would probably decide the game. If you

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<v Speaker 1>had told me before the game started that the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>were going to get in the red zone five times

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<v Speaker 1>against the Bears and score three touchdowns, I would have

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<v Speaker 1>said Packers are going to have a heck of a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to win the game. But if you had also

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<v Speaker 1>told me that twice when the Packers get in the

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<v Speaker 1>red zone, they're going to get zero points on two

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<v Speaker 1>red zone opportunities in this case actually two opportunities that

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<v Speaker 1>got all the way the five yard line and the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers got no points. I would have said, well, you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have a hard time winning that football game. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's where I say, like, I have my mixed feelings.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a ton to like about what the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>did on offense with very limited opportunities. We'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the reasons for those limited opportunities when we get to

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<v Speaker 1>the defense. There was a lot to like about what

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers did on offense, but to only come out

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<v Speaker 1>with twenty points in that game was extremely frustrating because again,

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<v Speaker 1>as we've said so many times this year, there was

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<v Speaker 1>so much more out there for this team to put

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<v Speaker 1>on the scoreboard.

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<v Speaker 2>As the great Dom Capers once said in the Packers

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<v Speaker 2>media auditorium, let me start with the positives. Okay, first

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<v Speaker 2>and foremost, it looks like knock on wood, Jordan Love

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<v Speaker 2>has put the groin injury behind him. He was scrambling more,

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<v Speaker 2>he was working under center more, absolutely, and the Packers

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to run more in this game, more conventional and

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<v Speaker 2>they were able to do that. And for all the

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<v Speaker 2>things people have Monday Morning quarterback about this game. The

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<v Speaker 2>game plan I think was rock solid. There were so

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<v Speaker 2>many things that you and I discussed last week. You

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<v Speaker 2>had to run the football. They probably didn't run it

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<v Speaker 2>as well as they wanted to, but you had to

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<v Speaker 2>do it because if you getting third and long, you're

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<v Speaker 2>setting You're setting the bear trap. There no pun intended

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<v Speaker 2>for Chicago be able to get a takeaway, which is

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<v Speaker 2>ultimately what happened in the red zone on one of

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<v Speaker 2>those plays when they had to go third and long

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<v Speaker 2>and they're still darting towards the end zone. Christian Watson

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<v Speaker 2>was unbelievable in this game. The downfield stuff that him

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<v Speaker 2>and Jordan Love had been trying to find their chemistry,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to find that get on the same page with

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<v Speaker 2>They did it in this game. A few moments of

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<v Speaker 2>results over process, the long pass, the forty eight yarder

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<v Speaker 2>when it also looked like you had Tucker Craft available underneath.

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<v Speaker 2>It is what it is. But what I loved about

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<v Speaker 2>that play too. I'm sure you saw it in You're

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<v Speaker 2>What you might have missed series. Tucker's running right towards

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<v Speaker 2>Christian to celebrate with them. As soon as the play

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<v Speaker 2>Happens was extremely happy for him. Watson's a guy that

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<v Speaker 2>has very much. He has absolutely earned all of those opportunities.

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<v Speaker 2>The sixty yard catch and run won the Packers the

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<v Speaker 2>game pretty much, and they did those types of explosive plays.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you look at how the Packers won this game,

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<v Speaker 2>independent of Carl Brooks's block, they won it with explosive plays.

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<v Speaker 2>The Chicago Bears played cleaner, the Packers played better, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's how they won the game. The disappointing thing was

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<v Speaker 2>much like I was talking about with the run game.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody knew the Packers had to produce inside the red

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<v Speaker 2>zone to be able to really pull away in this one,

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<v Speaker 2>and they failed to do that. Part of that. You

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<v Speaker 2>give credit to the Bears. They're the number one ranked

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<v Speaker 2>red zone defense for a reason. But unfortunately some of

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<v Speaker 2>the things that have plagued the Packers showed up in

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<v Speaker 2>the red zone. The penalty that initially pushed him back

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<v Speaker 2>on the illegal man downfield, those are the type of

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<v Speaker 2>things you still want to clean up while buying large.

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<v Speaker 2>They did in the penalty front, but it showed itself

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<v Speaker 2>in the red area and then certainly just a missed

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity Jordan Love played a pretty solid game overall, but

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<v Speaker 2>then as Matt Lafleur was saying, the ball kind of

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<v Speaker 2>sales on him on that third down pass to Tucker

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<v Speaker 2>Craft a moment where the Packers are just maybe trying

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<v Speaker 2>to use that catch and run that yack to potentially

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<v Speaker 2>getting to the end zone, and it doesn't work out there,

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<v Speaker 2>it ends up being an interception, Chicago's offense starts rolling

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<v Speaker 2>the other way. A lot of words I've just spoken,

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<v Speaker 2>but basically it comes down to the fact that Packers

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<v Speaker 2>still have things to work on, but they're one of

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<v Speaker 2>the most explosive offenses in the league right now, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's ultimately what bailed them out.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's what I keep, you know, hanging the hat on,

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<v Speaker 1>so to speak, with regard to this Packers offense for

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<v Speaker 1>the frustrations and the points that are left out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and the scoreboard you know hasn't in so many games,

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't reflected what, you know, maximizing those opportunities would be

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<v Speaker 1>this team, no matter what defense it has gone against,

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<v Speaker 1>they can generate explosive plays and that is something that

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<v Speaker 1>that is something that this offense can definitely hang its

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<v Speaker 1>hat on moving forward. I'm one hundred percent with you

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<v Speaker 1>on Christian Watson was that was a tremendous game for him.

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<v Speaker 1>All four of his catches, all four of his receptions,

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<v Speaker 1>were explosive plays, and they were all critical. They were

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<v Speaker 1>all big time plays at big moments in the game.

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<v Speaker 1>The other guy, I will point out that I thought

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<v Speaker 1>played a really, really good game, and it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>I talk about him every week as Josh Jacobs. He

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<v Speaker 1>was grinding away on the ground. He also had an

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<v Speaker 1>impact in the passing game, rushing and receiving one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and thirty four yards from scrimmage. For Jacobs, the receiving

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<v Speaker 1>was a combination of a couple of design passes, but

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<v Speaker 1>also a couple of checkdowns, which then also gets me

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<v Speaker 1>to the game that Jordan Love played. And quite honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>yes there's a lot of focus on the interception, is

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<v Speaker 1>a throw that got away from him. Was the right

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<v Speaker 1>decision where the ball was supposed to go on the play,

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<v Speaker 1>It was just a bad throw. The Bears happened to

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<v Speaker 1>have somebody in the right spot where the overthrow went

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<v Speaker 1>to get the interception, But honestly, that was the only

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<v Speaker 1>bad pass Jordan Love threw. The entire game. Quite frankly,

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<v Speaker 1>he ends up thirteen out of seventeen. He scrambled and

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<v Speaker 1>took off. He made the Bears pay a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>with his legs. He did take checkdowns to the running backs,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it was to Chris Brooks or to Josh Jacobs

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<v Speaker 1>here and there. Other than that one bad pass, he

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<v Speaker 1>did not put the ball in harm's way. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan Love played a really, really good game. I think

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<v Speaker 1>him being fully healthy, having the bye week to rest up,

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<v Speaker 1>take all the practice reps, all that stuff we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about last week certainly played into it. Jordan Love was

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<v Speaker 1>this close, this close because of that one bad pass

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<v Speaker 1>to playing the type of game that we would be

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<v Speaker 1>praising him for. Everybody would be praising him for up

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<v Speaker 1>and down. I think that's a huge sign for this

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<v Speaker 1>Packers offense moving forward. And in his defense a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Lafleur fell on the sword with regard to the interception,

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<v Speaker 1>not because of the play itself, but because that third

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<v Speaker 1>and long was set up because Lafleur criticized himself for

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<v Speaker 1>not just running Jacobs on second and one from the

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<v Speaker 1>five yard line. Called the pass play. That's what leads

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<v Speaker 1>to the illegal man downfield. You don't get illegal man

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<v Speaker 1>downfield if you run the ball, so that back the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers up. Then they tried the end around with Jayden

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<v Speaker 1>Reid that lost a few more yards of put Love

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<v Speaker 1>in a bad spot with third and long, and Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Lafleur was really upset himself for not just calling a

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<v Speaker 1>running play on second and one. You get a first

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<v Speaker 1>and goal inside the five yard line. You pounded in there,

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<v Speaker 1>and very likely the game is fourteen to three and

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<v Speaker 1>we're not talking about a black blocked field goal at

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<v Speaker 1>the end for the win. But back to my original point,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought Jordan Love played probably his best overall game

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<v Speaker 1>of the season. There's only one bad pass, one play

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<v Speaker 1>like that that we're talking about as far as as

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<v Speaker 1>far as what went wrong, and hopefully that bodes well

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<v Speaker 1>for this offense moving forward.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what I like the most? Mike Packers

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<v Speaker 2>had a huge momentum flip right around halftime. A bulk

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<v Speaker 2>of the Chicago Bears points came between that mark of

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the first half. In the beginning

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<v Speaker 2>of the second, Love kept his composure as we know

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<v Speaker 2>he does, but he led them out a huge drive

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<v Speaker 2>there to start the third quarter, capitalized by Josh Jacobs

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<v Speaker 2>getting that seven yard rushing touchdown, the fiftieth of his

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<v Speaker 2>NFL career in the regular season, and then when they

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<v Speaker 2>needed drives late, he made plays and he put his

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<v Speaker 2>players in positions to make plays. The past the Christian

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<v Speaker 2>Watson not the most perfect textbook pass. Watson had to

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<v Speaker 2>lay out for that thing and make a play. But

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<v Speaker 2>the thing I love about what.

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan and Love had a guy in his face on

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<v Speaker 1>that absolutely number ninety nine had had just slipped by

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Myers. The pocket had held up really well. Josh

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<v Speaker 1>Jacobs had picked up the blitzer TJ Edwards ninety nine

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<v Speaker 1>had started to slip by Josh Myers and got a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good hit on Love as he let that ball go.

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<v Speaker 1>But fortunately Watson was able to make the diving cat.

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<v Speaker 2>As Lafloor said, staring down the barrel. Sometimes YEA to

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<v Speaker 2>make those plays I do. But Watson made it right.

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<v Speaker 2>And and that's where getting on the same page is

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<v Speaker 2>so critical and being able to capitalize on these opportunities.

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan Love man, people are going to perseverate on the interception,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's going to be something the rest of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>He's already thrown eleven. We have nine more games in

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<v Speaker 2>the regular season? Is that? Or no, eight more? How

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<v Speaker 2>many games we have left? Or they're seven? Seven? Thank you?

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully the Packers have nine or ten games left, but

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<v Speaker 1>seven in the regular.

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<v Speaker 2>NFL is adding games every three minutes. I can't figure

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<v Speaker 2>out exactly how many they are left anymore. Seven games

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<v Speaker 2>left in the regular season. He's sitting on eleven interceptions.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to tell you a little bit of a secret.

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<v Speaker 2>He's probably going to throw another one at some point. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you will. So when people come up with the well

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<v Speaker 2>he threw another pick, and now it's eleven, Well he

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<v Speaker 2>might throw on this week, it might be twelve. You

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<v Speaker 2>can't worry about what's happened. Even last year. I thought,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you caught this, but Alex Smith

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<v Speaker 2>had a tremendous analysis of Jordan Love in the lead

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<v Speaker 2>up to Sunday's game, where he was talking about Jordan's

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<v Speaker 2>numbers in the first half of last year are pretty

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<v Speaker 2>similar to what they are right now. But then he

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<v Speaker 2>got on that run. Nobody was talking about the eleven

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<v Speaker 2>interceptions the last season. They're talking about the four thousand

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<v Speaker 2>passing yards the thirty two touchdowns, and that's where they

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<v Speaker 2>need Jordan to get to now. So I thought that

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<v Speaker 2>was a major step in the right direction offensively.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, not to get hung up on the

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<v Speaker 1>interceptions for too long. But the reason that the bad

0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:11.360
<v Speaker 1>decision interceptions really hurt you is because you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>have interceptions where a throw just gets away from you,

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<v Speaker 1>where something happens or a guy drops go or ball

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<v Speaker 1>gets deflected or whatever, a guy doesn't catch it. So's

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<v Speaker 1>and that's where the bad decision ones hurt you. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to eliminate those. And if Jordan Love eliminates the

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<v Speaker 1>bad decision interceptions, yeah, once in a while a throw

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<v Speaker 1>is going to get away. It might get picked off.

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<v Speaker 1>You can live with that at the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>The frustrating thing not just the two drives that reach

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<v Speaker 1>the five yard line, but ultimately the Packers come away

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<v Speaker 1>with no points. But as well as the Packers were

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<v Speaker 1>moving the ball steadily consistently on offense, they only got

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<v Speaker 1>six possessions in this game, not including the one play

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<v Speaker 1>neel down at the end of the first half. Six

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<v Speaker 1>possessions in this game, and that's because the Packers defense

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<v Speaker 1>had a really really rough day. The defense could not

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<v Speaker 1>get off the field, could not get the ball back

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<v Speaker 1>to Jordan Love and the offense enough. The Bears end

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<v Speaker 1>up with thirty six and a half minutes of time

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<v Speaker 1>of possession. They end up with on their seven drives.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't have a single drive with fewer than seven plays,

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<v Speaker 1>and five of their seven drives were double digit plays

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<v Speaker 1>ten or more. Combining third and fourth downs, the Bears

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<v Speaker 1>were twelve out of seventeen. Ye The Packers' defense just

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<v Speaker 1>they put themselves in enough situations to get off the field,

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<v Speaker 1>but then they couldn't do it. And the Bears had

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<v Speaker 1>switched offensive coordinators, like we talked about, I think the

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<v Speaker 1>new offensive coordinator whispered something in Caleb Williams's ear, so

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<v Speaker 1>to speak of like, hey, you can take off and run.

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<v Speaker 1>Your legs are a good weapon, go ahead and use them.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't forget about them kind of thing. And they mixed

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<v Speaker 1>in the zone read stuff where it was you know

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<v Speaker 1>where he gets the decision to hand off or keep,

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<v Speaker 1>and he hurt the pa between the scrambles and the

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<v Speaker 1>zone read seventy rushing yards from the quarterback. That was

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<v Speaker 1>a big game from Caleb Williams, and I thought the

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<v Speaker 1>way he used his legs built his confidence in the

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<v Speaker 1>passing game and the throws that he was able to make,

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<v Speaker 1>and it just felt like it felt to me like

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<v Speaker 1>the way the way Caleb Williams used his legs to

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<v Speaker 1>hurt the Packers, it just kept the Packers defense on

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<v Speaker 1>its heels. Yeah, a whole game. The Packers were not

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<v Speaker 1>in attack mode on defense because they got kind of

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<v Speaker 1>thrown off kilter by all the running around that Caleb

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<v Speaker 1>Williams was doing. And credit to the Bears it it

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<v Speaker 1>should have been enough for them to win the game,

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<v Speaker 1>and it almost was if they don't get the kick blocked.

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<v Speaker 2>And kind of like Malik Willis when he was filling

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<v Speaker 2>in for Jordan Love with what he can do with

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<v Speaker 2>his legs, what Williams did is it helped set up

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<v Speaker 2>DeAndre Swift. Swift had a really hard time getting going.

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<v Speaker 2>Rashaan Johnson had a hard time getting going when he

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<v Speaker 2>started scrambling. Then they started working the read option. That's

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<v Speaker 2>then when he broke off the thirty nine yard touch Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Then he gets the touchdown on the top on the sweep. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's where you're starting to see things happen. Now again,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll mention the positives here quickly. With the Packers defense,

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't rupture. That's the thing. Green Baby had thirty

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<v Speaker 2>fewer possessions or whatever it was, but they still had

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<v Speaker 2>more explosive plays than yea, the Bears did.

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<v Speaker 1>And at the end of the day, there's only nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>points on the board. So you can't you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't be too overly critical. But it was the way

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<v Speaker 1>the game unfolded and the way the possessions were limited

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<v Speaker 1>that the Packers offense just didn't get the chances that

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<v Speaker 1>you would like it to get when they're moving the

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<v Speaker 1>ball so.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and a lot of those explosive plays the Bears

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<v Speaker 2>got ended up being during the final stretch of that game. Yeah, now,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll bring it back around for a second. The Packers

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<v Speaker 2>end up turning over the ball and Bears get it

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<v Speaker 2>at the two yard line. This is where I sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>and Connor Lewis knows these statistics a lot better than

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<v Speaker 2>me the idea and Matt kind of touched on this

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit too. When a team is starting at

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<v Speaker 2>the minus two, if you don't rupture, even if you

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<v Speaker 2>give up a couple first downs and the Bears are

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<v Speaker 2>playing the way they have to play, they consistently have

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<v Speaker 2>to keep getting first downs. That helped green Bay get

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<v Speaker 2>through that situation to get the ball back to eventually

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<v Speaker 2>have the one where they finally did go ahead with

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<v Speaker 2>the scoring drive. They responded in that instance that the

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<v Speaker 2>tough thing for green Bay though, was, and I've gone

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<v Speaker 2>back and forth with fans about this, but you finally

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<v Speaker 2>get some pressure on the quarterback, you get the TJ.

0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:27.680
<v Speaker 2>Slayton sack, which is then followed by the Rashan Gary sack.

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<v Speaker 2>And Rashan might have had his best game of the

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<v Speaker 2>season against Chicago with what he was able to do.

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<v Speaker 2>When you look at the pressure numbers, when you look

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<v Speaker 2>at the quarterback he had, some of the tackles he had,

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<v Speaker 2>Rashan was getting after it. He gets a sack from

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<v Speaker 2>minus eight or nine yards third and nineteen. You're sitting

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<v Speaker 2>in I know everybody wants the Packers to move up

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<v Speaker 2>and play pressman coverage and be physical and everything, and

0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:50.440
<v Speaker 2>you just cannot do that. But it's what that third

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<v Speaker 2>downplay was a good illustration of, is the extremely minute

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<v Speaker 2>narrow margin for error. Kings Lingbari leaves his feet on

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<v Speaker 2>the pass rush. He's trying to make a play yep.

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<v Speaker 2>But then Williams again with the feet, gets in the

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<v Speaker 2>open field, extends and then Romadunze makes two fantastic catches

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<v Speaker 2>back to back plays. To be able to move the

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<v Speaker 2>ball down field, you have to get off the field

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<v Speaker 2>on third downs eight conversions and beyond that three fourth

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<v Speaker 2>down conversions. On the five instances where they didn't convert

0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:21.800
<v Speaker 2>on third down, Chicago was just way too efficient. Green

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<v Speaker 2>Bay has to break that. That being said, they made

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<v Speaker 2>it right, and that's what complimentary football is. If you're

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<v Speaker 2>not getting everything from the defense, but they're still keeping

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<v Speaker 2>points off the board, there's still finding ways to keep

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<v Speaker 2>you in it. That's where the special teams has to

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<v Speaker 2>pick them up. And obviously that's where the explosive plays

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<v Speaker 2>came into a factor for Green Bay as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I thought I thought the defense, the defense had,

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<v Speaker 1>the defense had a chance to sort of cure a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of ills on the day when you know the

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<v Speaker 1>game's on the line, final possession, the Packers have the

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<v Speaker 1>lead by one point, you get the back to back sacks,

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<v Speaker 1>you put them in third and nineteen. You and I

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<v Speaker 1>were talking because I think at that point it was

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<v Speaker 1>the two minute warnings. So there's a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a break up the clock. You and I were talking,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think you and I were in agreement where

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, Okay, you don't get too aggressive on third

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<v Speaker 1>and nineteen. You make them take the check down, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you you sit back and cover, you make them take

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<v Speaker 1>the checkdown. You come up, get a tackle, maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>get seven or eight yards, and you've got them in

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<v Speaker 1>like fourth and twelve, and then the game's on the line.

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<v Speaker 1>On fourth and twelve. What happened. The play got extended,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's where that's where your plan defensively gets foiled,

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<v Speaker 1>because the play gets extended and it becomes a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a quote unquote plaster situation because the quarterback avoids the sack,

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<v Speaker 1>gets out of the pocket, and then the receivers are

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<v Speaker 1>are further downfield and they're able to hit the sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>yard or so. Then instead of a instead of a

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<v Speaker 1>fourth and long or a fourth and medium, you're in

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<v Speaker 1>a much more fourth and manageable, you know, fourth and three.

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<v Speaker 1>And then and then on that play, the fourth down play,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I tipped my hat to Caleb Williams and

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<v Speaker 1>roma death. That was a that was a back shoulder

0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:05.000
<v Speaker 1>throwing catch down the sideline. I don't know what you

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<v Speaker 1>can really do to defend that, and it's and it's

0:21:08.040 --> 0:21:10.399
<v Speaker 1>such a quick, you know, three step drop and release.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing the pass rush can really do there. That's

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<v Speaker 1>just a great play by those guys. You would have

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<v Speaker 1>liked to have seen them, you know, seen it not

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<v Speaker 1>be fourth and three, because then the defense is in

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit different different situation.

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<v Speaker 2>But the rush call changes completely.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, every the way the way you play it,

0:21:26.880 --> 0:21:30.480
<v Speaker 1>the way you play it changes. So unfortunately, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that opportunity for the defense to kind of cure the

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<v Speaker 1>ills and maybe get the the same type of stop

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<v Speaker 1>that the defense got to win the Rams game when

0:21:38.160 --> 0:21:39.960
<v Speaker 1>the Rams were kind of, you know, trying to rally

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<v Speaker 1>at the end. The defense had a chance to do

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<v Speaker 1>that and didn't do that. And so that's that's concerning

0:21:47.200 --> 0:21:50.600
<v Speaker 1>from that standpoint. Unfortunately, the Packers had lost jyr Alexander.

0:21:50.640 --> 0:21:52.480
<v Speaker 1>They thought they were going to get him back. He

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<v Speaker 1>only plays a handful of snaps in the first half.

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<v Speaker 1>The knee wasn't good enough. He ends up in street

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<v Speaker 1>close for the second half and wasn't able to continue.

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<v Speaker 1>You so that's an injury injury situation that we will

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<v Speaker 1>uh that we will continue to watch. But UH, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it felt like at the it's it's the

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<v Speaker 1>word I used at the beginning of the show. It

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<v Speaker 1>just felt like the Packers survived it. Yeah, and UH

0:22:14.960 --> 0:22:18.160
<v Speaker 1>and you know, and now they're they're seven and three

0:22:18.320 --> 0:22:20.840
<v Speaker 1>with UH with a lot to look forward to. As

0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:23.200
<v Speaker 1>you said, seven regular season games left to go. There

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<v Speaker 1>is a ton of football left in this season and

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<v Speaker 1>uh and the Packers are in position to make something

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<v Speaker 1>up and.

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<v Speaker 2>Quickly to end on this this note before we start

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<v Speaker 2>looking at the league. You know, you give I tipped

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<v Speaker 2>my hat to Rich Bisaccia, you know, Byron Storer, everybody

0:22:37.440 --> 0:22:39.440
<v Speaker 2>that's involved in that side of the face they did

0:22:39.440 --> 0:22:41.720
<v Speaker 2>their research going into this game. They saw a potential

0:22:41.760 --> 0:22:43.640
<v Speaker 2>opportunity there with the a gap and the field goal

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<v Speaker 2>protection unit. As Matt Lafleur and Josh Jacobs both said,

0:22:47.520 --> 0:22:49.720
<v Speaker 2>Bassachia brought it to the team and basically it brought

0:22:49.720 --> 0:22:52.400
<v Speaker 2>it to his his phase, his wifense and said, I'll

0:22:52.400 --> 0:22:54.240
<v Speaker 2>be highly disappointed if we don't come out with the

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<v Speaker 2>block in this game. And I was talking with Javon

0:22:57.240 --> 0:22:59.239
<v Speaker 2>Bullard afterwards and he's like, yeah, you know what we

0:22:59.240 --> 0:23:01.280
<v Speaker 2>thought we'd get. Well, it just so happened to be

0:23:01.320 --> 0:23:03.840
<v Speaker 2>the last one that they finally end up getting through on.

0:23:03.880 --> 0:23:06.760
<v Speaker 2>And Carl Bradford gets his second block of his career.

0:23:06.960 --> 0:23:09.800
<v Speaker 2>And I want to mention that books Carl Brooks, Carl Bradford,

0:23:09.840 --> 0:23:10.440
<v Speaker 2>I did it again.

0:23:10.560 --> 0:23:11.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the second time you does.

0:23:12.040 --> 0:23:14.119
<v Speaker 2>I hope Carl's doing well out there. He's getting a

0:23:14.160 --> 0:23:17.920
<v Speaker 2>lot of pub here on Packers Unscripted this season. Carl

0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:20.320
<v Speaker 2>Brooks gets the job done the second block of his career.

0:23:20.320 --> 0:23:22.920
<v Speaker 2>And I thought this was a tremendous statistic that Tom

0:23:22.960 --> 0:23:25.840
<v Speaker 2>Fanning from the Packers' communication staff figured out. I don't

0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:27.479
<v Speaker 2>know if it was in concert with Elias or not.

0:23:27.720 --> 0:23:31.080
<v Speaker 2>It was probably just his own studying. Since twenty twenty two,

0:23:31.119 --> 0:23:34.200
<v Speaker 2>when Rich Pasaci was hired, the Green Bay Packers now

0:23:34.240 --> 0:23:36.359
<v Speaker 2>have the second most blocked field goals in the National

0:23:36.400 --> 0:23:38.359
<v Speaker 2>Football League to Pittsburgh. And if anybody, if you know

0:23:38.400 --> 0:23:40.840
<v Speaker 2>anything about the Steelers special teams units, yeah, and just

0:23:40.840 --> 0:23:42.960
<v Speaker 2>what they've accomplished, they have ten in that stretch. The

0:23:42.960 --> 0:23:45.879
<v Speaker 2>Packers have six, two of those belonging to Brooks. Two

0:23:45.920 --> 0:23:48.720
<v Speaker 2>of them belonging to Kolbe Wooden, and I think Josh

0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:51.119
<v Speaker 2>Niman is in there as well. That the Packers have

0:23:51.160 --> 0:23:53.320
<v Speaker 2>found ways to be able to do that. It just

0:23:53.359 --> 0:23:55.399
<v Speaker 2>so happened in this case it ended up saving them

0:23:55.400 --> 0:23:58.120
<v Speaker 2>a football game. The Packers now sitting at seven to three.

0:23:58.520 --> 0:24:00.560
<v Speaker 2>Three of those games have come down to the and

0:24:00.560 --> 0:24:02.080
<v Speaker 2>that final play has been special teams.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll just say this before I get onto sponsor

0:24:04.920 --> 0:24:07.280
<v Speaker 1>business and we move on to other topics. There's a

0:24:07.320 --> 0:24:10.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of people talking out there about the Bears head

0:24:10.000 --> 0:24:12.200
<v Speaker 1>coach Matt Eberflu said he's sending the play into the

0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:15.040
<v Speaker 1>league because contact with the long snapper. I'm just going

0:24:15.119 --> 0:24:18.200
<v Speaker 1>to clarify this because I didn't actually clarify it very

0:24:18.240 --> 0:24:21.240
<v Speaker 1>well in Monday's Insider Inbox column. I'm going to do

0:24:21.359 --> 0:24:25.360
<v Speaker 1>so in Wednesday's column. Yes, the long snapper is protected

0:24:25.359 --> 0:24:28.919
<v Speaker 1>from contact, but the rule is he's only protected from

0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:33.560
<v Speaker 1>contact when his head is down down and he's not

0:24:33.640 --> 0:24:36.280
<v Speaker 1>allowed to just keep his head down the entire time

0:24:37.080 --> 0:24:41.080
<v Speaker 1>and prevent Basically, to prevent anybody from rushing the a gap,

0:24:41.280 --> 0:24:43.399
<v Speaker 1>he has to snap the ball, get his head up

0:24:43.440 --> 0:24:45.960
<v Speaker 1>in position, and when his head is up then he

0:24:46.080 --> 0:24:49.720
<v Speaker 1>can be contacted. So you can't just snap the ball

0:24:49.800 --> 0:24:51.800
<v Speaker 1>as a long snapper on a field goal and keep

0:24:51.840 --> 0:24:55.760
<v Speaker 1>your head down and not allow anybody to rush in

0:24:55.800 --> 0:24:58.000
<v Speaker 1>that spot. I mean, we know the Bears aren't going

0:24:58.040 --> 0:25:00.119
<v Speaker 1>to get anywhere with sending this into the league. I

0:25:00.119 --> 0:25:02.480
<v Speaker 1>guess I don't blame him in some respects for doing it.

0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:04.640
<v Speaker 1>If I'm mat Eberfluse, I don't know if I would

0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:07.719
<v Speaker 1>have made that public that I'm complaining about that.

0:25:08.119 --> 0:25:10.120
<v Speaker 2>You know, Packerson stuff in the league every week.

0:25:10.160 --> 0:25:12.840
<v Speaker 1>They don't announce it, and matt Lelafure never tells anybody,

0:25:13.119 --> 0:25:15.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, unless he's unless he's directly asked about it,

0:25:15.840 --> 0:25:18.240
<v Speaker 1>and he might say, yes, I'm sending into the league,

0:25:18.280 --> 0:25:19.879
<v Speaker 1>and then he's not even going to comment on it.

0:25:20.240 --> 0:25:24.120
<v Speaker 1>We've never heard anything of what the Packers get back

0:25:24.160 --> 0:25:27.840
<v Speaker 1>from the league in those situations. So I just wanted

0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:30.720
<v Speaker 1>to clarify what the rule actually is because a lot

0:25:30.720 --> 0:25:32.680
<v Speaker 1>of people think the rule is the long snapper can't

0:25:32.720 --> 0:25:33.199
<v Speaker 1>be touched.

0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:33.960
<v Speaker 2>No.

0:25:34.119 --> 0:25:36.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yes, he can't be touched when his head

0:25:36.320 --> 0:25:38.640
<v Speaker 1>is down, but he also can't keep his head down

0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:39.600
<v Speaker 1>the entire time.

0:25:40.040 --> 0:25:42.879
<v Speaker 2>So may I add one last thing? Sure, you know

0:25:42.880 --> 0:25:44.920
<v Speaker 2>how an insider in box. Occasionally we'll get the people

0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:46.480
<v Speaker 2>that write in there. It's like, Hey, I was a

0:25:46.640 --> 0:25:49.919
<v Speaker 2>high school football coach or I officiated you know my

0:25:49.960 --> 0:25:53.439
<v Speaker 2>middle school, you know basketball teams league. I have one

0:25:53.440 --> 0:25:57.000
<v Speaker 2>of those moments here. One thing happened in that game

0:25:57.040 --> 0:25:59.359
<v Speaker 2>against the Bears, because obviously there was that incident with

0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:03.800
<v Speaker 2>Xavier McKinney at the start of the game. I found

0:26:03.840 --> 0:26:08.399
<v Speaker 2>this funny Matt Aberflus pining for calls and everything like that.

0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:10.600
<v Speaker 2>I think there's a line there where you obviously are

0:26:10.600 --> 0:26:12.880
<v Speaker 2>working the officials. But it reminded me of my own

0:26:12.920 --> 0:26:15.560
<v Speaker 2>city league basketball career, where there were times where we

0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:17.720
<v Speaker 2>would play teams and we knew we were not as

0:26:17.720 --> 0:26:20.480
<v Speaker 2>good as them, and we knew we needed every single

0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:22.000
<v Speaker 2>thing to go right in order to even have a

0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:24.520
<v Speaker 2>remote chance of beating them, and we would be on

0:26:24.600 --> 0:26:27.200
<v Speaker 2>the officials of these making twenty five bucks or whatever

0:26:27.240 --> 0:26:30.000
<v Speaker 2>for the game. That's what it reminded me of. It

0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:33.639
<v Speaker 2>didn't remind me of a head coach working the referees.

0:26:33.680 --> 0:26:36.439
<v Speaker 2>It reminded me of a guy that's pretty desperate for

0:26:36.480 --> 0:26:40.919
<v Speaker 2>his team to win. And I mean before the McKinney flag,

0:26:41.040 --> 0:26:43.680
<v Speaker 2>there was another incident on the sideline where his hands

0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:45.679
<v Speaker 2>were up, his neck was back, and he's thrown himself

0:26:45.720 --> 0:26:49.680
<v Speaker 2>around like a beanie baby, trying to, you know, make

0:26:50.000 --> 0:26:51.880
<v Speaker 2>it known that he thinks there should be a penalty.

0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:54.200
<v Speaker 2>It is what it is. You move on. But I

0:26:54.240 --> 0:26:57.199
<v Speaker 2>love what Matt Lafleur said about this. You can't depend

0:26:57.240 --> 0:26:59.080
<v Speaker 2>on that stuff. He wasn't talking about Eberflus, but he

0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:01.440
<v Speaker 2>was just talking about it happens all the time. There

0:27:01.440 --> 0:27:04.240
<v Speaker 2>are always penalties that you are going to disagree with,

0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:08.000
<v Speaker 2>the things you didn't think got called. But your team

0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:10.280
<v Speaker 2>still needs to win the football game and play beyond that.

0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:11.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah the Bears didn't do that.

0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:15.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you have to protect your field goal kicker, and

0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:17.800
<v Speaker 1>the Bears didn't do it. The Packers got the penetration

0:27:17.920 --> 0:27:20.600
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0:27:43.600 --> 0:27:46.920
<v Speaker 1>and then sign off. The NFC North Detroit is nine

0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:49.000
<v Speaker 1>and one, Minnesota is eight and two, Green Bay is

0:27:49.040 --> 0:27:52.080
<v Speaker 1>seven and three. The weekend played out as we thought.

0:27:52.119 --> 0:27:56.440
<v Speaker 1>The NFC North completed a fourteen to two near sweep

0:27:56.600 --> 0:28:01.320
<v Speaker 1>of the AFC South, with the Jaguars losing to the

0:28:01.359 --> 0:28:03.800
<v Speaker 1>Lions and the Titans losing to the Viking.

0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:05.080
<v Speaker 2>I didn't get to tell you this during your pre

0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:07.200
<v Speaker 2>production meeting. The Lions still have to play the Colts

0:28:07.240 --> 0:28:11.320
<v Speaker 2>this week. Really, yeah, they do, so we're close. It's

0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:13.440
<v Speaker 2>thirteen and two right now, thirteen and thirteen to two,

0:28:13.760 --> 0:28:16.120
<v Speaker 2>die bad. I was gonna mention that too beforehand when

0:28:16.119 --> 0:28:18.639
<v Speaker 2>I was looking at the schedule Lions Detroit.

0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:20.520
<v Speaker 1>And missed THEUS oil. I missed that, then, I'm not

0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:20.960
<v Speaker 1>thought that.

0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:22.240
<v Speaker 2>I just want to make sure we got that right.

0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:24.919
<v Speaker 1>So no, I appreciate that. I appreciate that I missed it.

0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:27.439
<v Speaker 2>The Lion's going to be big underdogs, going in.

0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:31.000
<v Speaker 1>By Lucas Oil occasionally is wrong, but that being said,

0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:32.800
<v Speaker 1>so it is thirteen and two.

0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:35.359
<v Speaker 2>You look at how Jared Goff bounced back a five

0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:40.320
<v Speaker 2>interception game and he was perfect fifty eight point three.

0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:45.240
<v Speaker 2>The Jacksonville Jaguars barely even got off the bus. Yeah, wow,

0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:47.320
<v Speaker 2>fifty two to six. You do that to somebody in

0:28:47.320 --> 0:28:48.840
<v Speaker 2>the National FOOTBA League. There was a couple of those

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:51.360
<v Speaker 2>games we covered in the McCarthy era. I think there

0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:54.040
<v Speaker 2>was one with even early on, I think he before

0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:55.640
<v Speaker 2>I started covering the team. There was a game against

0:28:55.720 --> 0:28:57.400
<v Speaker 2>the Saints where I think they won like fifty five

0:28:57.480 --> 0:28:59.440
<v Speaker 2>to three or something like that. But if you can

0:28:59.440 --> 0:29:01.760
<v Speaker 2>do that with thirty two teams the best players in

0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:04.640
<v Speaker 2>the world, you tip your cap to them. And then

0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:07.280
<v Speaker 2>certainly Tennessee made it a little bit interesting, but just

0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:11.600
<v Speaker 2>Minnesota too much. One, eight and two, seven and three.

0:29:11.800 --> 0:29:12.560
<v Speaker 2>What a division.

0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:14.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I want to get your thoughts really quickly before

0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:16.959
<v Speaker 1>we go, because we talked about all these big games

0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:19.720
<v Speaker 1>featuring all these teams with seven plus wins going into

0:29:19.760 --> 0:29:24.080
<v Speaker 1>the weekend. So Philadelphia defeats Washington, Buffalo defeats Kansas City

0:29:24.160 --> 0:29:26.479
<v Speaker 1>and hands the Chiefs their first loss of the season,

0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:28.880
<v Speaker 1>and Pittsburgh kicks a whole bunch of field goals and

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:32.840
<v Speaker 1>it's enough to beat the Baltimore Ravens. I can't say

0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:36.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm surprised or shocked necessarily by any of those results.

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:38.840
<v Speaker 1>And I think all of those teams still have a

0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:41.000
<v Speaker 1>lot in front of them, and some of those some

0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:44.160
<v Speaker 1>of those games might quite frankly be playoff previews.

0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 2>Mike tom Litt'll be a Hall of Fame coach, He'll

0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:48.240
<v Speaker 2>be in Canton someday. But my goodness, there's so many

0:29:48.240 --> 0:29:50.200
<v Speaker 2>times I watch his team's play. I'm like, this guy

0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:52.720
<v Speaker 2>would have been perfect in the sixties. He could have

0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:55.840
<v Speaker 2>been a Lombardi, you know, just they just find ways

0:29:55.840 --> 0:29:59.800
<v Speaker 2>to win. Who beats the Baltimore Ravens eighteen to sixteen

0:29:59.800 --> 0:30:04.040
<v Speaker 2>with field goal? Nobody but Mike tob Tke tob a

0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:06.480
<v Speaker 2>little fight the way Chris Boswell and in that in

0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:08.120
<v Speaker 2>that team, uh.

0:30:07.880 --> 0:30:11.600
<v Speaker 1>Well and and Justin Tucker missed some kicks there. Chris Boswell,

0:30:12.240 --> 0:30:15.320
<v Speaker 1>h Boswell was the was the kicking star of the game,

0:30:15.360 --> 0:30:18.760
<v Speaker 1>and uh and Justin Tucker's uh had had a bad

0:30:18.840 --> 0:30:21.000
<v Speaker 1>game in what's a Hall of Fame career?

0:30:21.400 --> 0:30:24.520
<v Speaker 2>What's for that guy? Been a bad season for him unfortunately. Yeah. Uh,

0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:26.600
<v Speaker 2>Kansas City and Buffalo I just want to say this quickly.

0:30:26.720 --> 0:30:29.040
<v Speaker 2>This was the outcome both of these teams needed. I

0:30:29.040 --> 0:30:31.880
<v Speaker 2>didn't think there was any reason this chief should be undefeated.

0:30:32.080 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not saying like, oh, they don't deserve it.

0:30:34.200 --> 0:30:36.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying they're a team that I think needed to

0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:41.720
<v Speaker 2>eventually lose one. Buffalo desperately needed to beat Kansas City. Now, ultimately,

0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:43.800
<v Speaker 2>I think that game will once again be decided at

0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:46.400
<v Speaker 2>some point in the postseason. Just seemed like it's the

0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:48.120
<v Speaker 2>way it's been working out. But I think there's a

0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:50.320
<v Speaker 2>lot more to be gained from that for for the Chiefs,

0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:51.760
<v Speaker 2>even though you want to win that game from a

0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:55.320
<v Speaker 2>potential loss. I thought Patrick mahomes post game speech was terrific.

0:30:55.400 --> 0:30:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Is his address of the media was. I loved.

0:30:57.040 --> 0:31:01.320
<v Speaker 1>I absolutely loved, because I and I saw it on

0:31:01.360 --> 0:31:03.680
<v Speaker 1>the plane live because we have our little TV screens

0:31:03.720 --> 0:31:06.400
<v Speaker 1>there as we're doing our work and I'm keeping kind

0:31:06.400 --> 0:31:08.040
<v Speaker 1>of a little bit of an eye in the game.

0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 1>Buffalo is up by two. They've got a fourth and

0:31:11.440 --> 0:31:15.480
<v Speaker 1>two inside the thirty yard line, and Sean McDermott said, well,

0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:17.360
<v Speaker 1>I could kick the field goal and go up five

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:19.960
<v Speaker 1>and watch Patrick Mahomes go down and score a touchdown

0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:22.920
<v Speaker 1>and beat me, or I can put the ball in

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:25.800
<v Speaker 1>my quarterback's hands on fourth and two and we're going

0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:27.680
<v Speaker 1>to try to go get a touchdown. And not only

0:31:27.720 --> 0:31:30.960
<v Speaker 1>do they convert the fourth and two, but Josh Allen

0:31:31.000 --> 0:31:32.760
<v Speaker 1>takes it all the way into the end zone, so

0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:36.360
<v Speaker 1>they get the two score lead that Sean McDermott wanted.

0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:38.640
<v Speaker 1>And the two score lead is what finally put Patrick

0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:39.360
<v Speaker 1>Mahomes away.

0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:42.160
<v Speaker 2>And you know what the real dirty secret is of

0:31:42.160 --> 0:31:44.040
<v Speaker 2>this game. You obviously want to get the first round

0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:47.800
<v Speaker 2>by but this doesn't matter. What they needed is they

0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:49.640
<v Speaker 2>needed to beat Kansas City and they need to be

0:31:49.720 --> 0:31:52.520
<v Speaker 2>aggressive because it's that type of mindset that's finally going

0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:54.880
<v Speaker 2>to get you past them in the playoffs, and that's

0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:57.040
<v Speaker 2>ultimately what the Bills are trying to do. I loved it.

0:31:57.040 --> 0:31:59.360
<v Speaker 2>It was It was tremendous call. It was tremendous gutsiness.

0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:02.120
<v Speaker 2>And it also when you have an established football team

0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:05.280
<v Speaker 2>with an established coach and in a staff, in a

0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:08.520
<v Speaker 2>franchise quarterback that people tried to, you know, kind of

0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:10.719
<v Speaker 2>throw some shade at earlier this year, but I mean,

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:13.480
<v Speaker 2>Josh Allen is obviously one of the top three quarterbacks

0:32:13.520 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 2>in the league, potentially the MVP this season. That's the

0:32:16.800 --> 0:32:18.520
<v Speaker 2>type of stuff that you do. And obviously it worked

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:19.440
<v Speaker 2>out well for Buffalo.

0:32:19.560 --> 0:32:21.800
<v Speaker 1>And I'll say real quickly before we go team to

0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:25.160
<v Speaker 1>watch in the NFC right now, obviously the Packers, everything

0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:27.160
<v Speaker 1>going on in the NFC North is worth watching. But

0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:29.480
<v Speaker 1>the team to watch in the NFC right now is

0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Washington because they had a big game on a Thursday night.

0:32:33.840 --> 0:32:36.760
<v Speaker 1>They were right there against the Eagles, and they completely

0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:40.200
<v Speaker 1>collapsed in the fourth quarter, just got railroaded in the

0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:43.240
<v Speaker 1>fourth quarter by a division rival. Now they get a

0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:45.160
<v Speaker 1>little extra time because it was a Thursday night game.

0:32:45.200 --> 0:32:49.680
<v Speaker 1>But how Washington now responds to that moving forward is

0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:52.120
<v Speaker 1>going to be a big factor in the NFC playoff

0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:52.680
<v Speaker 1>picture of the rest.

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<v Speaker 2>When you talk about slumpbusters, when you're hosting the Dallas Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 2>in this version of the Dallas Cowboys, you will have

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<v Speaker 2>an up ertilly to bounce back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they will. They will, But I'm talking more long

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<v Speaker 1>well for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I mean, like, talk about a gift from

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<v Speaker 2>above after that loss, after this little streak.

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<v Speaker 1>They right, they're not, They're not. They're not getting sent

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<v Speaker 1>to Detroit. Yeah, play play their next game, right So

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Well, with that, we got to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>that we'll call it a wrap on this edition of

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<v Speaker 1>of the team on Packers dot com. For Wes, I'm Mike.

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