1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: M Hi everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 2 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford, sitting alongside my trusted colleague West 3 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: Hodkowits were coming to you here from our studios at 4 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: lambeau Field. West were another day closer to Packers forty 5 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: Niners on Monday Night football at lambeau Field, the Packers 6 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: only Monday Night game of the year. As we work 7 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: through this week, obviously a lot going on here with 8 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers. One of the things maybe getting 9 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: a little bit lost in the shuffle, is that this 10 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: Packers defense two weeks in a row has actually played 11 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: some pretty good football too. I guess you could say 12 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: even two and a half games in a row since 13 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: halftime of that loss at Washington and uh. I know 14 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: there have been some coverage breakdowns here and there. Nothing 15 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: has been perfect by any means. We'd like to see 16 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: them take the ball away more all of that, But 17 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: in terms of what this Packers defense is doing holding 18 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: the yardage total down fairly well for their opponents in 19 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: recent weeks, Who do you think is the best defensive 20 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 1: player on this Packers team? Right? There are a number 21 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: of candidates that I think you can point towards, but 22 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: for me, I think it has to be Kenny Clark. 23 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: And I was talking with our producer Marvin uh and 24 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: you know, he was mentioning he also directs The Mike 25 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: McCarthy Show and mentioned that every single week basically Mike 26 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:37,559 Speaker 1: McCarthy is mentioning the plays and how disruptive Kenny Clark 27 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: has been weekend, and we got We've talked so much 28 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: about Davante Adams. I think defensively, Kenny Clark has been 29 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: that player for them. And what else is really impressive, Mike. 30 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: This isn't in no disrespect to Ryan Pickett, are those 31 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: type of guys, but this isn't your pound, run nose tackle, 32 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: run stuffer. They asked him to do so many things 33 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: in this defense and he's playing a lot, Mike. I mean, 34 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: I was like bringing up the stats in front of 35 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: me here Football outsiders dot Com. Two defensive stats. Defensive 36 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: snaps so far this season. That's the total. That is 37 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: a heavy, heavy workload for a defensive player. And the 38 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 1: biggest thing is you just it's really difficult to take 39 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: him off the field right now because he's equally as 40 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: dominant against the run as he is being able to 41 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: get inside pressure against the past. So I just think 42 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: you're seeing a young man now at twenty three years old, 43 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: is really coming into his own. The Packers drafted him 44 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: with upside in mind, and and he's really, I think, 45 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: lived up those expectations. And he's also just a quiet 46 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 1: guy that just goes about his business weekend and week out. 47 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: He's not trying to get on any commercials or billboards 48 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: or anything. Yeah, he's not doing any crazy celebrations out 49 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: there or anything like. Yeah, I have to agree with you. 50 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: I think Clark is the best defensive player right now 51 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: on this team, and I'll be curious to see now 52 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: as the season goes along. I have to believe that 53 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: as the Packers get beyond the bye week and you know, 54 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: they go on this road stretch and everything else that 55 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: we've talked about, I think Kenny Clark is going to 56 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: see a lot more double teams now. Mike Daniels, of course, 57 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: is the guy who has seen those double teams in 58 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: past years and had to deal with those and had 59 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: to make adjustments. Kenny Clark is the guy who's going 60 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: to have to make adjustments because I think the way 61 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: he's playing and what's on film. Teams have got to 62 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: notice it, and they're going they're gonna have to say, hey, 63 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: we can't let number ninety seven disrupt what's going on 64 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: and in the middle of the trenches the way he 65 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: has so consistently. So this is uh, it's one of 66 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: those things where, yes, Kenny Clark is playing great right now, 67 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: you can't just say, Okay, well, he's just gonna play 68 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: like that the rest of the season. Other teams are 69 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: gonna adjust him. The Packers will have to have their CounterPunch. 70 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: But but yeah, what's what's on film right now is 71 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: pretty impressive, as you said, both defending the run and 72 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: in terms of pushing that pocket. And it's a it's 73 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: punch CounterPunch, and I think you've seen some of that 74 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: already with Mike Petton and some of the blitz packages 75 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: he's been using. I actually think the Packer is one 76 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: of the things they've done very well so far. And 77 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: the other part of the season is being able to 78 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: to blitz through the middle of the offensive front. You've 79 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: seen them threatened the double A gap stuff. I think 80 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: it was actually correct me if I'm wronger, But the 81 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: Jermaine Whitehead sack from two weeks ago. I think actually 82 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: did come off a double a gap blitz, or at 83 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: the very least he came up through the middle line 84 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: and was able to get after Josh Allen. That's what 85 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: can help in the in specifically in the dime passing situations. 86 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: Helped take off some of the pressure. They've moved around 87 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: those defenders, those defensive lineman a lot as well. But 88 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: getting back to original points, specifically against the run, that's 89 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: just the thing that he's going to have to get 90 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: comfortable with. He's going to have to know that this 91 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: is what is going to be required to me going forward. 92 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: B J. Raji had to do it, Ryan Pickett had 93 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: to do it, Mike Daniels has had to do it 94 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: over the years and being able to still find ways 95 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: to be effective. It's one thing to break out and 96 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: get that attention. It's another thing to have to adapt 97 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: to it. And that's what the great, you know, real 98 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl perennial type players do. Yeah, And when you 99 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: talk about a quiet guy who's simply going about and 100 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: doing his job, maybe with out a whole lot of 101 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: flash or fan or Blake Martinez in the middle of 102 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: that defense. Mike Petton during training camp, and when they 103 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: were installing all of this and everything, he kind of 104 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: called that that inside linebacker who's, you know, got the 105 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: communication hel McCullum, the nerve center of the defense, because 106 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: he's the one who's he's gotta make sure the front 107 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: and the coverage in the back end that everybody's on 108 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: the same page and knows what's going on. And and 109 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: so far, I can't say enough about what Blake Martinez 110 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: has done there. I know, statistically, nothing necessarily jumps off 111 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: the page. You expect inside linebackers to rack up tackles 112 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff, just like he did a 113 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: year ago. But we're not seeing just you know, flat 114 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: out blown defensive assignments necessarily. And and yes, this defense 115 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: has given up some big plays. I get that, but 116 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: it's not because of just complete communication breakdown. Yeah, I mean, 117 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: you met. You asked me who the best defensive player 118 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: on the team is right now, it's Kenny Clark. If 119 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: you ask me who the most important player on this 120 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: defense is right now, it's Blake Martinez. And it's because 121 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: there's just you can't replace him at this point in time. 122 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: And certainly, if something would happen, they'd have to adjust, 123 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: but his experience, what he offers as a football player 124 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: in the communication skill, those three things are imperative right 125 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: now because Mike, we haven't seen it so much the 126 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: last few weeks. Last week with not having Germaine Whitehead, 127 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: they had to go a little more traditional with their 128 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: nickel packages or in Burke's ended up playing upwards of 129 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 1: twenty snaps for the first time. But the thing about 130 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: it is Martinez in a lot of situations has had 131 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: to be the only inside linebacker on the field. We 132 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: talk about dime linebackers all the time and playing all 133 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: three downs, Well, he's had to do that sometimes in 134 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: the sub base packages as we continue to call them, 135 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: those hybrid type things where they're going with three uh 136 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: cornerbacks instead of the extra inside linebacker, and he has 137 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: to be the guy making sure that the front is 138 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: tied to the back and everything is is in is 139 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: in line there. I think he's done a really good 140 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: job of that, and the fact that he's still been 141 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: incredibly productive. Actually coincidentally, I know this is probably just 142 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: more of a I don't want to call it a fluke, 143 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: but I mean the fact that he's currently tied for 144 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: the lead right now on the team in sacks with three. 145 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,239 Speaker 1: He had to his first two sack game last week. 146 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: That you're finding ways to have him make an impact. 147 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: And I think the biggest credit to Martinez at this 148 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: point in time is if there's a running back or 149 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: there's a player out in space down the field, Blake 150 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: Martinez is gonna get him. He fits gaps well, he 151 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: knows where he needs to be at all times, and 152 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: if it isn't gonna be him, He's at least going 153 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: to hold up the play until he can get you know, 154 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: everybody else to pursuit and finish. So I just I've 155 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: been really impressed with him and how he's handled this 156 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: role in the fact that he's had to play next day, 157 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: Antonio Morrison, Corey tumor Jermaine Whitehead as I mentioned, or 158 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: in Burke's so many different guys having to fill that 159 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: void with Jake Ryan being out for the year, and uh, 160 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: you know, Blake Martinez has been up for that. Champel Well, 161 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: both of these guys were talking about Kenny Clark and 162 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: Blake Martinez. You mentioned it with Clark already. The snap load, 163 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: the the snap count for these guys both really really high. 164 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: Is this something that is sustainable as the Packers go along, 165 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: are they're going to need to make some adjustments here 166 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: over the course of sixteen games. I think it's gonna 167 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: be tough for him to play the snaps like he 168 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: did in Detroit. Now, they did promote Tyler Lancaster, who 169 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,119 Speaker 1: I think I've mentioned it's probably four or five times 170 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: now if you don't know anything about his story, mic 171 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: wrote a phenomenal piece on him during the off season 172 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: where he comes from, and actually I thought had a 173 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: really good camp all things considered that what was at 174 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: that time a very deep position when Mohammed Wilkerson was 175 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: still in the fold, well he's now on the active roster, 176 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: Mark Montrevius Adams, you know, you look for him to 177 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: potentially get more involved. The Packers have been in a 178 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: tough spot because they've been playing a lot of bass. 179 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: They've been playing a lot of three defensive line packages, 180 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 1: which puts Clark, Daniels and Lowry on the field a lot. 181 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: But when you're down by multiple scores, the other team 182 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 1: is going to run the full exactly. You've got to 183 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: get your personnel out there to stop the run and 184 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: get the ball back. So you want to go with 185 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: those guys. It's must win situations, So I get that 186 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: he's playing that much. I would think the Packers would 187 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: like to taper those snaps off over the course of 188 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: the year because you need to keep those guys fresh 189 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: and you want to keep them involved in the inside 190 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: us rush as well. But a lot of it I 191 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: think is going to be determined Mike on guys like Adams, 192 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 1: guys like land Caster, showing that they can go in 193 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: in critical situations and help pick up that rotation. Yeah, 194 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: all right, I agree with you. There. 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Okay. 204 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: Another topic that continues to come up in our insider inbox, 205 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: my weekly Chat and everywhere else that we try to 206 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: answer fan questions. Is the situation with the Packers running backs. 207 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: A lot of people asking continuing to ask, why isn't 208 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones getting the ball more? Why isn't he on 209 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: the field more? It was to nothing at halftime against Detroit. 210 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: Jones was hardly on the field in the second half 211 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: as the Packers are basically in their two minute offense 212 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: with with either Montgomery or Jamal Williams as the past 213 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: protecting running back. I'll just say this, I think Mike 214 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 1: McCarthy on Monday essentially admitted he would like to get 215 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones the football more. He blames himself for the 216 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: limited opportunities thus far that Jones has had because now 217 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: that he's been in there for a few games after 218 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: missing the first two games, I think Mike McCarthy does 219 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: want to get him the football more. That being said, 220 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: I'll go back to what I said in my chat 221 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 1: on Tuesday, which is on Packers dot com if you 222 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: want to check it out. I think people are getting 223 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: way too hung up on this. I think the criticism here, 224 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: while some of it may be valid and there's arguments 225 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: to be made, I don't deny that, but I think 226 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: the criticism has gone overboard because when you look at 227 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: the production the Packers have gotten from the running back 228 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: group as a whole, and what is going on with 229 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: the execution of those players and what they're getting out 230 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: of them, the running back position is the least of 231 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: this team's problems. So I don't understand personally, I just 232 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: don't understand why the criticism of this has gotten to 233 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: such a height When the penalties, the protecting the football, 234 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: the turnover margin, the drop passes, some blown coverages in 235 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: the secondary, those are the things that would change the 236 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: outcome against Washington and against Detroit, not the usage of 237 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones. Just my opinion. I just think this is 238 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: this is something that has taken on a life of 239 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: its own, and the Packers have far more important issues 240 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: that they need to focus on right now than what's 241 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,719 Speaker 1: going on and running. I agree with Mike, and I 242 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: think you and I touched on this a little bit 243 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: earlier this week, but I want to revisit one thing here, 244 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: going back to this game on Sunday, Packers and the Lions. 245 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 1: Lions won this game. If you haven't heard, carry on 246 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: Johnson had twelve carries for seventy yards. He averaged five 247 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: point eight yards of carry in that game, and I 248 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: think now is still averaging like six six and a 249 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: half yards of carry on the season. Like Garrett Blunt 250 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: had the same amount of carries. He had twelve carries 251 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: for twenty two yards and two touchdowns. I don't hear 252 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: any chirping right now out of the Detroit Lions. Their 253 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: media core, their fan base, their coaches. They understand that 254 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: guys have roles. The part that I've had a difficult 255 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: time to ciphering, I think it also it ultimately just 256 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: comes down to wins and losses. When you win, people 257 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: don't question things. When you lose, people do. It's just 258 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: the way that this business works. It's the way that 259 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: any professional sports league or amateur college sports league works. Here. 260 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: Here's the thing, Aaron Jones is dynamic. I mean, you know, 261 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: I wrote probably as many articles as anybody on the 262 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: beat last year on Aaron Jones. Right. I covered every 263 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: inch of his family's history. For the most part, love 264 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones, great football player. But I what I don't 265 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: understand is, like we talked about this twenty four and nothing, 266 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: they're trailing at halftime, and you start seeing these tweets 267 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: in the day after, and it's it's mostly from a 268 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: national perspective. I'm guessing people that were just looking at 269 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: box scores and making their own analysis from there. Aaron 270 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: Jones didn't have a cary in the second half. Things 271 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: like that. Since day one, Aaron Jones himself has said, 272 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 1: we all have roles, we all do something well in 273 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: this offense. Well, it just happens to be that Jamal Williams, 274 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: I think everybody would agree at this point in time, 275 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: is their best pass blocker. I think everybody that would 276 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: agree in their two minute offense time, Montgomery is their 277 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: best option there because you can use them in so 278 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 1: many different ways. You can flank him out and he's 279 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: a receiver, he's not a decoy, he's a receiver. You 280 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: can keep him in the backfield, you can motion them, 281 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: see what they're gonna do, how they're going to disguise 282 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: their defense, and Aaron Jones can do those things too. 283 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: But for my money, with everything else that went wrong 284 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: in that game against Detroit, at no point in time, 285 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: I didn't write about everyone eleven hunderword notebook. I didn't 286 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: even touch on the running backs, because at no point 287 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: in time was I going, man, why are they not 288 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: feeding Aaron Jones the ball? I'm thinking they need a 289 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: thirty yard chunk play to get the ball moving downfield. 290 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: If you want to talk about the beginning of the 291 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: game and how you're utilizing him, fine, but you at 292 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: least have to acknowledge the point in which the Packers 293 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 1: were in that game against the Lions and where the 294 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: situation was at. It's a situation that screened for Jamal 295 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: Williams and Time Montgomery. It just did. Yeah. And this 296 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: is the other thing too, the fact that it was 297 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: twenty four to nothing at the start of the second half. 298 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: The Packers drive down and get a touchdown. If you 299 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: don't get the two point conversion there and it's twenty 300 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: four to six, it's still a three score game. I mean, 301 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: it was only a two score game, and barely a 302 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: two score game because they got the two point conversion. 303 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: It's twenty four to eight. You still you can't you 304 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: can't play the game as though, Okay, we just need 305 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: to score two more touchdowns and we're gonna get this 306 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: thing tied up. Because if you miss one two point 307 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: conversion along the way, which the Packers did on their 308 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: second touchdown. You haven't necessarily closed the gap as much 309 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: as you would have liked. So, um, I think you 310 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: and I are on the same page here. And as 311 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: I've said before, I'm not I'm not sitting here to 312 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: to be a Mike McCarthy apologist for the criticism that 313 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: he's getting here. I've given my opinion on this and 314 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: and it is my own opinion. I completely understand what 315 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: the Packers are doing here with their running backs and 316 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: the utilization and how the game situations have dictated this, 317 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: and they're just so there are so many other issues, 318 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: and it's why Mike McCarthy continues to go to the 319 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: podium and talk about penalties and protecting the ball and 320 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: turnover margin and all these things, because at the end 321 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: of the at the end of the day, West in Detroit, 322 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: twelve penalties and minus three in turnovers is why you 323 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: lost the football game. And none of that had anything 324 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: to do with the utilization of the running backs. Not 325 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: like any of the running backs put it on the ground. 326 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: It's not like any of the running backs you know, 327 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: messed up their opportunity. I mean time Montgomery, you see 328 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: what he Offers as a receiver. He did it against Buffalo. 329 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: He did it again in this game with the twenty 330 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: three yard catch. You want to have those guys integrated 331 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: in the offense. You know. People and also are using 332 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: this thing about the four straight runs that Jones had 333 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: and I think it end up going for thirty seven 334 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: yards or something like that. At that point the game, 335 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: that was critical, I thought with that, with how the 336 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: passing game was struggling, they just had back to back 337 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: or it was close to it with the fumbles giving 338 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: the ball back. You needed to establish another threat against 339 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: that defense. And they did it there right, But then 340 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: then the problem is the four straight carries for thirty 341 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: seven yards. Like I said, so Jones needs to come 342 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: out for a breather. So you call play action on 343 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: the next on the next first and ten, and they 344 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: missed the blitzing linebacker coming right up the middle. He 345 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: completely recks the play and Rogers has to throw it 346 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: away and then you're in second and ten. Well, yeah, 347 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: I mean, he just ran the ball four straight times. 348 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: He needs to step out for a play. Well, when 349 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: he steps out for a play, the other guy, I mean, 350 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: you still need to execute the next play. It wasn't executed, 351 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: and it threw off the whole sequence, in the whole 352 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: rhythm of what the offense was doing. Like I said, 353 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: the part I think is the most interesting is the 354 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: Packers in the Lions use their running backs. I said 355 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: it going into this game. They have very complimentary parallel 356 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: running back back fields. They use them the same way. 357 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: There is no discussion about whatsoever in Detroit right now. Well, 358 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: why didn't carry On Johnson get the ball every single play? 359 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: Why didn't carry On Johnson get the goal line carries? 360 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: Doesn't matter right now because the Lions won. When you win, 361 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: everything's hunky dorry. When you lose, people ask questions. That 362 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: was ultimately the difference between how these two back fields 363 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: are utiflized and not much different. Yeah. Alright, Well, as 364 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: we head into a weekend here where Packers fans have 365 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: to wait until Monday to see the Green Bay Packers play, 366 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: it's a pretty big weekend in Wisconsin sports, and I 367 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: want to start with the college football team, which is 368 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: the Wisconsin Badgers. On Saturday night, they are headed to 369 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: the Big House. As they say in ann Arbor. It's 370 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: a big football game for Wisconsin. The more time goes 371 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: by the worst. The loss to be why you looks 372 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: as b y. You got pasted by Washington and then 373 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 1: they got pasted by Utah State where my son attends college. 374 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 1: So that loss to be why you continues to look worse. 375 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 1: But the Badgers have bounced back with a road win 376 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: at Iowa, very tough place to play in prime time. 377 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: They got the win uh last week and then now 378 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: going into prime time at Michigan. And these two games 379 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: these last couple of years Paul Chris Jim Harbaugh Wisconsin 380 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: against Michigan, these have been low scoring, defensive slug fests, 381 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: so to speak. Could be a really really interesting football 382 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: game Saturday night. Yeah, it will be. And also I 383 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: think an important test too for the pack. For excuse me, 384 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: I'm so caught on the pack for the Badgers defense, 385 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: because you know, they have given up some points at 386 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: different points in this season. I think they've had to 387 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 1: do things a little bit differently this year, even though 388 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people have. You know, they 389 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: put them right up there in discussion at the beginning 390 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 1: of the year as being a potential playoff teams. So 391 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: they they've had to win in different fashions. They have 392 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: to you know, they have a quarterback now that I 393 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: think they trust at this point in his career to 394 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 1: to make plays, which historically it's been more based around 395 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: just run the ball until you can't run it anymore. Uh. 396 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: And defensively, they got to pick themselves up. So it's 397 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: gonna be a great game. I'm excited. I don't know 398 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 1: how much of it I'm gonna be able to catch, 399 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: but uh, certainly Jim Harbaugh in the Wolverines, it's it's 400 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: gonna be probably their biggest test in this conference. Yeah, well, 401 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: the quarterback is going to have to make some plays 402 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: Alex Hornerbrook for the Badgers, because this is a great 403 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: running offense against a great rushing defense. And uh and 404 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: really the game probably in that context will come down 405 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: to which of the two quarterbacks Cornerbrooker Patterson for Michigan, 406 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: will be able to make enough plays. Well. The other thing, 407 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: Wes I put off talking about it for too long. 408 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: The Milwaukee Brewers are back in the National League Championship 409 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: Series for the first time in seven years, and they 410 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: are trying to get to the World Series for the 411 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: first time since nine two when I was in fifth grade. 412 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: By the way, um I wasn't Games one and two 413 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: at Miller Park Friday night and Saturday Brewers against the Dodgers. 414 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: It's it's just an exciting time to be a Wisconsin 415 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 1: sports fan right now because this Brewer team, they've been 416 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: fun to watch. Yeah, they have been, and it's gonna 417 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 1: be a cool you know test. Now you probably can 418 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: give me the breakdowns and what the win loss was 419 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 1: this year against the Dodgers. Do you know for four 420 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: to three Dodgers, I knew you're gonna be able to 421 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: come up with it. So I'm excited to see it 422 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: the Brewers. As you said, from the very beginning. The 423 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: interesting part of this thing is that from the beginning, uh, 424 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: on the high stakes of those playoff games against Chicago, 425 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: you know, whether you're not, you're gonna be the wild 426 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: card and you're gonna be the top. See. So hey, 427 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: you won, you swept through the Colorado Rockies. Now enjoy 428 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: the fruits of your labor. Put these uh this home 429 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: field mantage to to work. And it's just I remember 430 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: that two thousand and eleven team, Mike, and I remember 431 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: saying to myself, I'm like, this is the best Brewers team, 432 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,239 Speaker 1: and they had flaws but I remember saying that this 433 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: is the best Brews team of my lifetime, my lifetime. 434 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: Uh you know, seven short years later they did it 435 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: unconventionally with how they handled their bullpen and they're they're 436 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: starting rotation. But this, this team is this team is 437 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: making it look a lot easier than the last two 438 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: playoff teams did. Yeah, well, this this is gonna be 439 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 1: This is gonna be quite the fight with the Dodgers. 440 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: Because you look at the Dodgers. They went to the NLS. 441 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: This is their third straight time in the NLCS. Two 442 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: years ago they lost to the Cubs in the NLCS. 443 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: Last year they get through it. They end up losing 444 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: in the World Series to the Astros. A great World Series, 445 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: but the Dodgers come up short. This is a team 446 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: that I mean, they went out and got Manny Machado 447 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: at the trade deadline. There. The Dodgers are like, this 448 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 1: is our year. And as much as Brewers fans are 449 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: saying this is our year, this is the Dodgers team 450 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: that's had its heartbroken the last couple of years. They 451 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: feel like they're battle tested and they're going to give 452 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: the Brewers absolutely everything they can handle. And the other 453 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: side of it too. I know the building the Brewers 454 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: are still building for the future, but we've seen it 455 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: so many times, Mike. I think of the Texas Rangers 456 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 1: teams that's like, Okay, we'll be back there. You never know, 457 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 1: You never know. You have to make sure that you 458 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: capitalize it when you're in the moment. As we talked about, 459 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: the Brewis are now back to this stage for the 460 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: first time in seven years in two thousand and eleven. 461 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 1: Nobody was necessarily worried about waiting seven years to get 462 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: back to the playoffs again. But we gotta go with that. 463 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: We'll call it a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. 464 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: Be sure to follow all of our coverage of the 465 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: team on Packers dot com. 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