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Speaker 2: Thing, Armstrong and Getty, one more thing before we get

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Speaker 2: to the delicious Freedo. I mentioned on the Armstrong e

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Speaker 2: Getty Show that I was at Costco yesterday and they

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Speaker 2: had on display their new ninety eight inch television. And

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Speaker 2: I've seen some really big TVs before, but the picture

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Speaker 1: And I was, that's seven feet.

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Speaker 2: I got more. I got a seventy seven, which is

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Speaker 2: a pretty big television eight feet and this was way

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Speaker 2: bigger than that. They had them side by side because

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Speaker 2: they know what they're god, I know, and it was

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Speaker 2: weird how I wanted that, That's what I was just.

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Speaker 2: It was just like you talk about wants versus needs.

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Speaker 2: I mean, nobody needs that. I don't need that on

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Speaker 3: I like, I'd get ahead ache because I mean, how

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Speaker 2: Have to be in order to not well the picture

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Speaker 2: is so great, Like with my my super big television

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Speaker 2: the technology they've gotten.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think for most people there's a ratio

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm certainly willing to push the bound.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, depends on a refresh rate. That's what it's all about,

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Speaker 2: the way my brain works. But I don't know, it's

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Speaker 2: just but just in general, wanting various things you don't need.

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Speaker 2: I philosophically, I just I love that whole topic. I

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Speaker 2: talk about with my kids a lot. I think about

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Speaker 2: it my own life. Wants versus needs. But but something

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Speaker 2: that is not a need, but it brings you consistent happiness. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, assuming you can afford something ish. You know,

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Speaker 2: if you enjoy something on an ongoing basis. Is that?

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Speaker 2: Now what are we alive for? Man? Way, we've all

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Speaker 2: purchased things that like after the first time you use

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Speaker 2: it or very soon it's just to give me, brings

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Speaker 2: you no pleasure you thought it would have, didn't. I mean,

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Speaker 2: so those things I hate. I hate when I do that.

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Speaker 4: And if you do the crappy, tedious, grinding stuff and

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Speaker 4: don't know an eight foot TV?

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Speaker 1: Is that a bad thing?

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Speaker 4: You know what's interesting psychologically is the not universal, but

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Speaker 4: damn near universal lust for a larger and larger TV

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: And you know what, Katie, it's not like showing off

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Speaker 4: or anything. I don't care if anybody ever sees it

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Speaker 2: I know nobody will see it but me and my house.

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Speaker 2: Well it's a good point. Hey, you're the perfect example.

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Speaker 2: But if I'm sitting there in my man cave with

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Speaker 2: the show, I'm very, very happy. But the world, well,

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Speaker 3: It's like, you know, Jack, if this TV makes you happy,

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Speaker 3: it makes your kids happy, so it means you're a

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Speaker 3: good father. I see it wins all across the board.

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Speaker 2: As you're getting this, what depends why it brings you happiness?

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Speaker 2: I'm sure Like I don't. I've talked about like I

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Speaker 2: don't care about home decoration stuff like certain countertops mean

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Speaker 2: But I know people that every time they walk into

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Speaker 4: Countertop that both Judy and I miss really sack. So

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Speaker 4: reminisce about our counter Wow, how cool it was.

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Speaker 2: So that's foreign to me. But so it's got to

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Speaker 2: I've got a jacket. I know you don't care about clothes,

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Speaker 1: I wish some dude had not brought that up. Some

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Speaker 2: See you've gotta you've got a tear in your jeans.

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Speaker 3: A girl that's not wear a pair of jeans that

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Speaker 3: has holes in it without some guy making a comment,

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Speaker 3: Oh you got holes in your pits, couldn't afford the

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Speaker 2: Shut up for over it.

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Speaker 4: So anyway, But back in that era, when perfectly worn in,

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Speaker 4: sleep deprived in the Amsterdam airport. Some dudes, Yeah, some

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Speaker 4: probably wearing it around with pride. Fine American Levi's denim

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Speaker 4: this very very interesting. Hitch Hiking is back in Washington,

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Speaker 4: call it slugging. That used to be a thing in DC,

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Speaker 4: and it's back. It's organized hitch hiking. And they open

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Speaker 2: They're headlocking, found floating in the Potomac. No, no, they

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Speaker 4: They're commuters who want to bypass the capital's notorious track

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Speaker 4: like a rideshare thing of park and ride whatever you

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Speaker 4: want to call it, but slugging matches suburban riders who

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Speaker 1: A lot, but not exclusively.

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Speaker 4: They talked to the ears of forty four year old

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Speaker 4: It's like Uber, except you know, it's it's I'm not

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Speaker 4: doing this for a living, I'm giving you a ride.

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Speaker 1: If the driver doesn't talk, you ride in silence.

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Speaker 2: Love it. Love that. Yeah, you shut your yap. The

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Speaker 1: How much chitter chat there is.

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Speaker 4: If there is conversation, certain topics are considered off limits.

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Speaker 1: No politics, of course in DC.

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Speaker 4: I mean, come on, no religion, and you don't say

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Speaker 4: Other rules include not graping about the temperature or the

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Speaker 4: But since COVID and there have been a handful of

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Speaker 2: I don't like people eating around me in a closed space.

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Speaker 4: Well, you get in my car and you start open

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Speaker 2: Oh I reach over, I open up the door and

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Speaker 3: A friend of mine was snapping her gum the other

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Speaker 3: are you serious right now? What?

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Speaker 2: It's always surprising to me.

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Speaker 4: and they would say, essentially, I'm making so much money,

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Speaker 4: a great bargain. Unless you know, the lights go out

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Speaker 4: your labors.

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Speaker 2: You die, mean, Yeah, that's what I meant.

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Speaker 1: I meant die.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I think unless you're lying to yourself, which I

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Speaker 2: think is often the case, that you're going to continue

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Speaker 2: doing this the rest of your life.

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Speaker 1: Super commuting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just like commuting a lot. I've known lots of

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Speaker 2: people did their whole lives.

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Speaker 1: Huh.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why, but you know, teach to teach their own.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Sure, I keeps radio in business.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, true. Yeah, keep doing it, folks, that was

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Speaker 4: my point. Keep doing it. Yeah, don't worry about it.

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Speaker 4: You're never going to die, so keep keep commuting.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm too polite in the backseat. I remember

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Speaker 3: taking a cab in Las Vegas and had the scariest

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Speaker 3: driver and we got there, but I wanted to say

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Speaker 3: something so badly, like let me out, let me out,

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Speaker 3: but I just.

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Speaker 2: Bit my lip. You don't speak past tune.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, there's that.

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Speaker 2: Well, I guess that's it.