1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Let's get to our guests, Eva autos CEO and chief 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: investment strategist that e Er shares to take a closer 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: look at the markets. So, Eva, are you expecting us 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: to retest the lows on the SNP five hundred thirty 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: six sixty six and do we test and rebound or 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: do we test and give it up? I think we 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: test and rebound. Um. I think the markets will be choppy. Um, 8 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: we have they have baked in the seventy five basis 9 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 1: points rate high, but still there is a big concern 10 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: of what future of the future holds. So we'll probably 11 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: trade within a five to ten percent range in Q 12 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: three and then in Q four as we get closer 13 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: to the October thirteen reading and then early November EFON 14 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: miss meeting, then we might see the markets get back 15 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: to their highs. In terms of what the FIT does 16 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: this week, everybody has an opinion. Where are you on 17 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: on this question? Are you looking at seventy five basis 18 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: points or do you expect something a bit more outsized 19 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: than that. We we think the FED will stay the 20 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: course with the seventy five basis points and it's a 21 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: foregone conclusion to us. We're now more focused on the 22 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: November meeting rather than the September and whatever they might 23 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 1: hint for the November meeting, that's what might push the market. 24 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: So I think the tone of the Fed and how 25 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 1: hockeysh they'll be I will be critical tomorrow. And I 26 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: think people are very focused to see if well they'll 27 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: ease up on the seventy five basis points rate high 28 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: policy in November and then in December too. So if 29 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: there is a little bit of a softening in the 30 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: in the comments made by the chair, do you think 31 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: the market will seize upon that or do you think 32 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: the market really needs to see an actual CPI print 33 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: that is, you know, somewhat lower. I mean, unfortunately the 34 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: last one didn't didn't really offer that. Which of the 35 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: two exactly as as you said, I think, especially after 36 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: the unfortunate last CPI reading, I think people are more 37 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: focused on the actual data rather than the tone of 38 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: the Fed. Um so um. I think there's a much 39 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: greater debate that now in November they might come down 40 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: for a variety of reasons. Unemployment continues to rise, inflation 41 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: is likely to come down, and GDP dropped. So if 42 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: we have a third quarter of GDP dropping, there will 43 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: be a lot of pressure on the Fed to not 44 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: overdo it. So that's what we are focused on. And 45 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: in terms of inflation likely to come down, it's coming 46 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: down a lot slower than anticipated. What's the risk of 47 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: some surprises here to the upside we were I don't 48 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: think we'll have more surprises. But that being said, it's 49 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: important to note that the cp eyes lagging the true 50 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: effects of some of the market conditions. For example, when 51 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 1: it comes to hising housing Sorry, UM, I think it's 52 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: likely declining much faster than what the CPI suggests. One 53 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: third of the CPI is based on shoulder and even 54 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 1: though we had headlines for the past months that new 55 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: housing starts or plummeting, some housing markets are also falling 56 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: UM the CPS the CPI for housing in August increased 57 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: by zero point seven percent. Ever, I know you're expecting 58 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: to see a few downward revisions to earnings over the 59 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: next few months. Do you think the market is priced 60 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: in that expectation yet or once those revisions start to 61 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: roll in, do you see more downside for equities? I 62 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: see more downside. I think the markets UM will do 63 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: better on improving inflation news and will drop on future projections. 64 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: And I don't think we have incorporated everything that has 65 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: to do with the European crowd isis when it comes 66 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: to us to the US, because many U S companies 67 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: have a significant revenue percentage that comes from Europe. So 68 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: as we incorporate that more and more, I think we'll 69 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: seem more downward UM estimates for the future earnings projections 70 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: for the companies in the US, So the earnings will 71 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: come down and the revisions will be made. Right now, 72 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: you've got valuations on equal weight stocks in the SMP 73 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: five hundred round fourteen, whereas the market the SNP is 74 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: at about eighteen times earnings. So can we expect that 75 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: maybe the average stock does okay, but the high flyers 76 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: get trimmed in this next period of a quarter or so. No, 77 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: In fact, there are some high flyers that are doing 78 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: well even today. We have Cognis reporting and after hours 79 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: they are app about seven percent, so and they're in 80 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: machine learning machine vision. At the same time, you have 81 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: GM and fourth the on significantly after hours today, So 82 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: that shows that it's truly a stock pickers market. So 83 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: UM investors need to look at each company and a 84 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: company by company basis and see whether this company is 85 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: significantly affected by the slowdown or minory session that's that's coming. 86 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: Do you limit your stock picking at the moment to 87 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: US markets? Are you looking off shore as well? And 88 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: I'm thinking particularly there's some really beating up names in 89 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: China at the moment, probably for a good reason. Are 90 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: you looking there well? Chinese is being hit from a 91 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: number of internal and external factors. On the one hand, 92 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: you have external buyers primarily from Europe and North America 93 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: who are seeing a significant slowdown in their purchasing power, 94 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: and and then at the same time you also have 95 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: um the COVID, the zero COVID policy in China, and 96 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: all other internal ramifications that have to do with their 97 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 1: with their real estate crisis. So at the on the 98 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: on the bright side, though, no country has benefited more 99 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: than from reselling the Russia and oil other than China 100 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: due to their their geographic proximity to Russia. So I 101 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: think there are good news about Joina and bad news. 102 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: That doesn't make it the ideal place to place money 103 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: right now. I think you the U s is A 104 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: is still a safe haven. But that being said, even 105 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: in the US markets. People need to be conservative for now. 106 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: So have you you mentioned for and GM struggle today 107 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: and and that you know stock picking is is really 108 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: at a premium right now. Can you talk a little 109 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: bit about what you look at? Is a free cash flow? 110 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: Is it revenues holding firm? Is it you know, just 111 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: just generally speaking, better management? How do you how do 112 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: you separate the wheat from the chaff? Yes, so purchasing 113 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: power is key if they have an elastic demand. So 114 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: for example, there are some healthcare companies that have, of 115 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: course in elastic demand. And then we're really really focused 116 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: on margins and whether a company is able to cut 117 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: down their costs or at least keep them in line 118 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: and expand their margins as they also increase the revenue. 119 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: So they're out of the fifty six thousand companies that 120 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: we're tracking globally, there are only a couple of hundred 121 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: US base that are profitable and able to expand their margins. 122 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: So it's not easy to find them, but they do exist. 123 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: I have a very quickly twenty seconds. Are we hitting 124 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: for a global recession? We are um For Europe we 125 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: are almost certain, and I think we'll probably have a 126 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: mild recession in the US two um will We'll see 127 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: if the third quarter the gd becomes negative again and again, 128 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: if you have three consecutive GDP quarters that are negative, 129 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: that's really a bad signal. But again that stands with 130 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: the NBR to make that determination. Alright, fantastic, Thank you 131 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: so much at us CEO and chief investment strategist at 132 00:07:58,520 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: The Shares