WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: Setting the Stage? 0:00:02.560 --> 0:00:05.120 The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:13.080 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys. This is the 0:00:13.119 --> 0:00:18.279 Players Love broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:23.640 the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church, Danny mccraig, and 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:29.760 Newi Scrugs. Here we are on a Monday. It is 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:34.519 free agent Monday, all right. NFL teams come Wednesday because signs. 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:37.360 They can start signing free agents today. You can basically 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:42.839 start your little backdoor conversations with pay and uh the NFL, 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:45.640 I mean here it is March Madness, but the NFL, 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:50.120 the blue pushed March maddens. We want some spotlight here, 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:54.040 Tom Brady, I want some spotlight here. He's basketball guys. 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:56.080 Gonna have to wait a little bit. But by the way, Uh, 0:00:56.200 --> 0:01:00.680 the NCAA Tournament isn't for work this weekend. How about TCU? Uh? Well, 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:03.760 TCU is the host, but they're having it at Dicky's Arena. Okay, 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:08.520 Second Bears, so yes, Baylor, Baylor there, Baylor number one seed. 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:10.560 They'll be there. North Carolina tar Hill's gonna be there. 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:13.320 Hubert Davis from Dallas Maverick. He's the head coach of 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:16.479 the Carolina tar Hill. So um, yeah, yeah, so there 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:18.520 any that you know how Jerry rold usually does, like 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:20.240 the Sweet sixteen, there's none of they an't getting it 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:23.120 this year. No no no, no, no, no, no spot. This 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:27.560 is all dickies. So so yeah, what's see to penberget Um? 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:30.040 You know what? We are a four seed and we 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:32.240 won our tournament game of Division two. All right, the 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:35.319 John Toledo, I think Toledo's in it, so so so, 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:37.760 I think Toledo's in it. Man. We won our conference. 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:39.640 We won conference. Carolina's crews, you got any more? We 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:44.440 got any more jokes? SHOT's been fired early early on 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:48.760 the show Man, right on down. That's right. The Braves win, Son, 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:52.360 Braves win. Be flagger. We're moving on in the tournament. Okay, 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:56.040 let us dive into many Dallas Cowboys topics. He is 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:58.760 Barry Church to Toledo Rocket joining us filling in for 0:01:58.840 --> 0:02:02.760 Danny McCrae. Is Anthony Spencer for a first round draft 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:07.560 pick with the Dallas Cowboys from Purdue boiler Maker. Yes, yes, yes, 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:09.799 if your basketball team can finally make the Final four, 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:12.120 winning championship, man, we'll see, man, they got they got 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:13.800 some players out there. We'll see what they can do 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:16.200 in the tournament. All right, I'm new, I'm new. He scruggs, 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:18.880 just merely new. He scrugs. Here. These gentlemen here, they're 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:20.920 the players. So they're gonna bring you their expertise here 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:23.600 for an hour. And we got side show Chris being 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:27.679 in the background ready to slob jokes. Best producer Joe 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:33.880 by the way, I lied. Uh, it's all good. Football, Rockers, rockers, 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:41.760 you guys, you damn't see me. It's all good. Okay, 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:43.959 what lots to get to? Why don't we just start 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:47.680 with the wide receivers. Okay, Amari Cooper. Amari Cooper is 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:50.360 going to be traded. Will not happen till later this 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:53.079 week officially, but he's going to Cleveland. So it's for 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:56.200 a fifth round pick. The Browns and the Cowboys swap 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:59.760 six round picks. Here, Coop do twenty million dollars. Cowboys 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:03.160 didn't want to pay it. They saved sixteen million dollars 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:06.440 under the cap. So gentleman thumbs upper thumbs down. I'm 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:08.520 make it. That's sim before you thumbs upper thumbs down 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:10.119 on this trade them to start with you, Barry Church 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:15.000 for me with the Cowboys situation. I'm gonna say it's 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:17.600 a tough one for me because you know, you let 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:19.799 Cooper go in To me, I thought he was a 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:21.480 number one receiver. I mean, he didn't get a lot 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:24.079 of chances last year, and for the most part last year, 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:25.720 he didn't show that he was a number one. But 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:28.240 I still believe he has number one left in the tank, 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:31.280 and for them to trade that away, they must have 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:33.919 a lot, a lot of confidence in the receivers they 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:36.040 have left on the roster. I mean, you know, we 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:38.360 said we heard Gallup might be or should be signing 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:41.560 that extension. Hopefully it'll get said Wilson back. But to me, 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:44.560 that hurts the pass game overall because even though Cooper, 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:48.080 he didn't put up crazy, ridiculous numbers that guarante that 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:51.520 warranted that twenty million dollars deal, but he opened things 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:53.240 up for other people, you know, And I feel like 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:55.320 a lot of the attention now is gonna go towards 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:59.000 Ceedee Lamb, go towards Michael Gallut, go towards said Wilson. 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:00.880 And I don't know if they're for that type of hunt, 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:02.880 that type of pressure on them. I mean, being a 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:05.000 number one receiver. It's it's it's a tough it's a 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:07.800 tough duty. So I think this might be a thumbs 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:10.680 down for the Dallas Cowboys, but certainly a thumbs up 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:12.840 for the Cleveland Browns. I mean, they're getting I think, 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:14.920 a very very solid receiver that has a lot left 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:17.159 in the tank. You put him in there with that 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:19.159 great running game that they have in Nick Chubb and 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:21.279 Kareem Hunt. You put him in there with Baker Mayfield, 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:23.160 and they got a good offensive line. So I think 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:25.960 it's a thumbs up for Cleveland, but for Dallas, I'm 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:28.320 gonna go thumbs down because I did not want to 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:31.200 see a Mark Cooper go. But hey, at the end 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:32.440 of the day, it's a business and you gotta make 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:35.840 other decisions. Yeah, I feel like the same way he 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:38.080 brought a lot of double teams to his side, he 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:39.960 had a lot of brought a lot of attention to 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:41.680 his side, so it opened up the field for the 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:44.440 other wide receivers to make plays. So with that being gone, 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:46.000 is gonna put a lot of pressure on those young 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:48.920 guys to be able to perform. And when you get 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:51.240 out there and you're making plays, when you got the 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:52.760 other guy on the other side. But when that when 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:55.839 you get that pressure, that ball is like you got 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:57.760 that all that pressure to make those plays and to 0:04:57.800 --> 0:04:59.880 carry the team, it's a it's a whole other monster. 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:03.280 So the time will tell it will either make make 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:05.800 divings out of the other receivers or he's gonna bust 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:09.799 the pipe. So we'll see here, we'll see twenty million dollars. 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:11.920 It's a lot of money. It's a lot of bread, 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:15.360 a lot of bread. And when you say a lot 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:18.119 of bread, let me break it down into more terms. 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:21.960 Two for a million dollars a game? Yeah, is he 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:24.400 bringing you a million dollars a game in production? See, 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:26.640 that's the only thing I was That's the thing that 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:28.880 I'm like, Okay, it's kind of I because he wasn't 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:30.680 I'll put it like that. He was not giving you 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:34.000 twenty million dollars worth of game out there. And a 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:35.279 lot of that had to do with the with the 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:36.920 scheme as well. I mean, he wasn't getting a lot 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:38.400 of looks or a lot of targets as well. So 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:40.080 I can't put it all on a Mark Cooper for 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:41.760 not being productive because there was a lot of games 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:43.800 where he might have only got you know, three targets, 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:45.880 two targets here and there, so I can't put it 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:47.800 all on his plate. But at the end of the day, 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:50.520 you are correct newly in my opinion, he wasn't putting 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:52.839 that that twenty million dollars worth a game on the 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:55.200 football field. So the Cowboys had to make a decision. 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:58.800 One point three million a game my back, Remember he 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:02.160 missed two games. Is a COVID, he wouldn't get that shot. 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:06.360 So so yeah, one point three milk. That's And when 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:08.840 it comes down to it, Cowboys always really make good 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:11.080 business decisions, and that's really what this is. I feel 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:13.120 like it's a business decision. And was he bringing that 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:16.000 revenue to each one of the games? Probably not, But 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:18.440 the other things that like the double teams opened up 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:20.320 the field for the other players, Like you really can't 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:22.560 see that happening in the game, Like he that's not 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:25.520 making a play. So it's those things that you don't 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:27.680 see that he was really bringing. And is that worth 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:30.720 one point three a million dollars a game? Yeah, so 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:33.359 I got to decide, Like it's tough because did you 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:35.920 look at it now? Okay, you know teams were starting 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:37.599 towards the end of the year, they were starting to 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:39.720 play that kind of umbrella covers where they had two 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:42.040 high safeties back deep and they were like, look that 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:44.000 you're gonna have to check it down or make accurate 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:45.839 throws through our zone to be able to beat us. 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:47.840 And we weren't able to do that. They weren't able 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:50.359 to do that. So that's a tough one. Do you 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:52.880 put it more on his lack of production? Do you 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:55.000 put it more on the scheme and Kella Moore scheme 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:58.560 or the actual player kellamore scheme? Kellamore? I mean, how 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:01.640 many times were we watching Sean McVay And I was 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:03.480 there at the Super Bowl. So it was just amazing 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:06.080 in that fourth quarter because Cooper Cooper Cup made so 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:12.080 many players, Ye come around on the tweet coming on across. 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:15.120 I mean, it was all right. So that whole final, 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:18.480 that whole final fourth quarter was about Stafford the Cooper Cup. 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:23.680 That was it. So we've seen an offensive coordinator scheme 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:28.280 scheme him up. Yeah, Okay, we've seen DeAndre Hopkins, We've 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:31.520 seen DeVante Adams. I mean, we just see dudes out 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:34.560 here who are getting back. When Antonio Brown was, we've 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:37.760 been Roethlisberger. You knew what was coming. Good luck stopping it. 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:40.040 Calvin Johnson when he was with Matt Stafford. I mean, 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:42.160 there are ways, and we've seen number one guys get used, 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:44.200 even Michael Thomas when he had Drew Brees at their 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:47.120 new work. So for one point three million dollars, if 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:49.000 you if if your offensive coordinator is not going to 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:51.280 figure out a way to scheme him up, then I 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:54.800 don't think you're doing justice to the receiver or doing 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:59.800 justice to this cheam. Now I feel bad for him, 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:02.520 our Cooper, because Baker Mayfield's not that guy. He's going 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:08.160 to Cleveland, I mean Dallas, Cleveland, you know, Baker Dak. 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:11.840 I mean, it's just you're outside in the conditions. If 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:19.000 I'm Mard, You're from Florida, went to Alabama, started your 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:22.400 cares with the Raiders in California, go to Texas, and 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:24.040 now they're gonna send you up here to Cleveland to 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:26.280 catch passes from a dude. They don't even want to 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:28.920 give him multi year contract to number one overall pick. 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:30.720 They're like, yeah, we don't know if Field to pick 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:34.360 up that option. And so unless they go bring in 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:38.120 Deshaun Watson in a trade in good luck trying to 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:41.959 get Deshaun Watson to you and their calls are going 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:45.120 out three first round here, like I'm like man Ian 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:47.720 the crisis guy. And of course the crazy thing is 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:50.880 Cleveland passed on Deshaun Watson twice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, how 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:53.800 smarter that? So I feel bad. I feel bad for 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:57.000 a Mark Cooper. I still think he's a good player. 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:02.120 I hate the fact that he's leaving. Yeah, but one 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:04.720 point three million dollars in the financial that's that's a 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:07.080 lot of money and is and as a number one 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:09.160 receiver you kind of love guys like this in your 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:11.720 locker room. That he wasn't really getting a lot of targets. 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:14.960 He wasn't getting all that, but you rarely heard anything 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:16.760 from him. I mean we saw the two maybe the 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:18.200 two instances where he was like, yeah, if I got 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:19.960 the ball more, I can help this team out. But 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:22.520 it wasn't like a you know how how how my 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:28.400 boy there? It wasn't go ahead ahead, say different. I 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:30.080 had a different type of passion. So you can't you 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:33.839 really can't brain that type of like leadership. It was 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:36.080 really what it is, leadership to the to the locker room. 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:37.800 Like he's been through it, He's been that one, number 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:40.080 one receiver. Like he's been through a lot of different games. 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:41.840 He's seen a lot of different coverages how people are 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:45.440 going to cover him. So he brought a different to 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:48.360 the to the Cowboys that they don't have. Now. Yeah, 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:50.280 I mean, and it's gonna it's gonna come. We'll see 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:52.480 if it shows through or if if it won't. Yeah, 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:57.160 that's true, all right, so um Amari Cooper on his 0:09:57.240 --> 0:10:01.760 way to Cleveland. Michael Gallup stays, he was coming up 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:07.400 on free agency, had that horrible ACL tear January second 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:09.160 when he went up for a touchdown catch and he 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:12.960 made it against the Arizona Cardinals. Five years sixty two 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:16.280 point five million dollars is what's being reported. He missed 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:18.640 seven games due to a calf injury last year that 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:21.320 Tampa Bay game had that then missed the next seven games, 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:25.400 played an eight last year. In four seasons with the Cowboys, 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:29.959 one hundred ninety three catches for two thousand, nine hundred 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:33.240 ninety two yards fifteen touchdowns, had a one thousand yards 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:37.280 season in twenty twenty twenty seven million isn't guaranteed money, 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:41.200 ten point ten million dollars signing bonus, and he had 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:46.040 he had the ACL surgery in February. So anybody looking 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:49.600 for Michael Gallup to start week one, I would tell you, don't. 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:52.720 Don't look for that would be unrealistic, and that's amass. 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:56.480 I think it was. It was smart on his behalf, 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:59.040 because like you said, he you know he might not 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:01.200 be ready for week one. So if you go to 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:03.760 a different team, you don't know that training staff, you 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:05.520 don't know that team, you don't know how they work 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:07.920 with you during the offseason, how they're gonna bring you 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:10.040 back towards the team. I mean, you gotta, you know, 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:12.760 get a whole new leadership value with that team. So 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:14.520 I think it was a smart move by him. You 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:16.480 know the team, you know the guys in the training room. 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:18.560 You know they're gonna get you back as healthy as possible, 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:21.199 and they're gonna let you take your time with coming back. 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:23.520 So that was definitely a solid move on him, and 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:25.680 I think by the Cowboys as well. I mean, I look, first, 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:27.319 I looked at that number, I said, whoa five for 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:29.679 sixty two. I'm hold on this guy coming off of ACL. 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:32.040 But then when you really looked at the numbers, it 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:33.880 boils down like new He said to really kind of 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:38.079 a two year, twenty seven guaranteed overall, very team friendly. 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:39.880 I think overall the whole thing is like twelve and 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:41.240 a half a year, which I thought he was going 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:43.360 to get closer to sixteen a year. So I think 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:45.800 it's a very team friendly deal. If he ends up 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:48.360 coming back healthy and blowing up and you know, playing 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:49.840 out the whole five years, I think it'd be a 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:52.360 great value for the squad. So I think they you know, 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:54.120 they both worked with each other on this one, So 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:56.760 I think it's a good deal overall. But to me, 0:11:57.120 --> 0:12:00.680 it's all gonna boil down to whether or not Ceedee 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:03.000 Lamb can be that guy, because I honestly don't think 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:05.480 Michael Gallup is is a number one. I think he's 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:08.000 a great number two, kind of a one beat situation. 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:10.480 But I think if it's all on him, I don't 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:12.520 think this passing attack is going to be as dynamic 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:14.200 as it was in the past. So I think this 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:17.199 deal pretty much sums up. If if if Ceedee Lamb can 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:19.440 be that guy and Gallup can be a solid number two, 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:21.200 I think we have a great pass production. But if 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:23.040 it's all on Gallup, I think it's going to be 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:25.000 a tough situation. So spend I want to throw it 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:28.480 to you coming off ACL, Yeah, I'm my receiver. Yeah. 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:30.800 When I was coming off my knee surgery and I played, 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:32.560 I came back and I played a year with the 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:34.800 Cowboys with the same like I was able to recover 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:37.120 and get all that work in with the same training staff. 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:39.200 But then I went to New Orleans and it was 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:41.800 a whole different type of training like that, Like it 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:43.599 plays an effect on your body, so you have to 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:46.560 being with the same training staff and going through the 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:48.959 offseason and then being able to have this contract with 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:51.840 gives him a little bit more security and comfortability and 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:55.720 believe in it itself, like putting that putting that ownership 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:58.440 on himself to come back and perform at that high level. 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:00.000 So I really believe that's going to be a good 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:02.480 deal for him and for the Cowboys, just because they're 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:05.280 giving him a little bit of rope to get better 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:07.160 and to become a better player. At the same time, 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:09.280 he's got to have that trust in the Cowboys with 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:11.760 them signing him back. So we'll see. I mean, I 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:14.480 think that he's gonna be back and doing great because 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:16.480 even when the Tories ACL making that catch. You can 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:19.000 see the resilience that he had as a player, and 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:22.360 even with the injuries that he had this past year 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:25.960 with the hurt calv like, that's part of the ACL 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:29.319 or not the ACL, but just being in football. Yeah, 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:31.920 I mean, just be able to go through those injuries 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:34.640 and come back and availability is always the key of 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:37.520 this game. So I feel like that's what we'll see, 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:44.240 you know. Yeah, So that's um for me. That's the question. Okay, 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:48.120 you signed him for five years, got the ACLU. You 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:50.200 hear people say it'll take you a good year to 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:52.679 get back to where you were. So now you're talking 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:55.560 four years. You know, what are you going to really 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:58.240 get out of the deal. So there's a lot of hope. Yes, 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:00.480 there's a lot of hope of this deal. Hey, you're 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:02.520 hoping he goes back to what he was. You're hoping 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:04.960 he could be the number two. They're no guarantees. Yeah, 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:07.120 not at all. With that deal being said, do you 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:09.560 do you feel like these guys should go get a 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:14.679 wide receiver early in the draft. No, No, Spence with 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:18.720 my chom Oh, it's it's hard. It's hard. I mean 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:22.680 I don't think so. I think the CD lab and 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:25.720 just just had the having the continuity of the people 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:27.320 that they have in the locker room right now, like 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:29.720 they can't. You can't keep bringing in new and and 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:33.000 hoping that yeah, I mean, it's all over again. So 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:34.840 you just got to kind of build with what you 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:37.600 have and people that are in the even the tight 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:39.960 end that they just signed to the franchise deal Shultz 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:42.680 Sholtz him him coming back and having that opportunity, I 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:45.040 feel like that's gonna be huge for the passing game 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:47.800 as well. Let me just ask you guys, give me 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:49.640 your top three wide receivers in the game right now. 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:52.680 Just just think, you know, just just in your mind, 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:54.240 you know, it just comes to your mind right now. 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:59.520 We just mentioned Cooper Cup. I would I would go 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:05.800 Cooper Cup, Devontae Adams, Stefan Diggs. Okay, that's what I 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:12.800 will go. Okay, I like Cooper Cup a lot. Uh, 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:21.840 definitely Devontae Adams. Okay, and I'm not I'm not sure. 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:24.920 That's fine, that's fine, that's fine, Okay. Just here's here's 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:27.440 the exercisement. Not one of those guys the first round pick. 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:30.840 Cooper Cup's the third round pick. Adams and Diggs are 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:34.160 second round picks. The Packers have made a living not 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:39.880 taking guys in the first round. They just won't do it. 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:42.440 And so I bring that up to say, look, you 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:46.160 can find these guys in later rounds. Um, you know 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:48.920 Chris Scotlan's not a first round pick, while Mike Evans is. Um, 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:51.080 Michael Thomas had those great ears in New Orleands, He's 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:53.200 not a He's not a number one guy. So, um, 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:56.640 you can get those guys you've You've invested in cde Lamb. 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:59.200 He's still got a rookie deal here. You just paid gallop. 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:01.800 I think you could. To me, if I'm the Cowboys, 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:05.120 either dress your front seven on defense or you address 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:08.480 your offensive line in the first round. Here, you know 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:12.080 your center is still too light, your left guards probably 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:16.040 leaving in free agency. Um, Layton vander esh is going 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:18.400 to be on the move, I believe, and so someone 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:21.440 next to Michael Parsons, depending on what happens with Randy 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:23.840 Gregory and whatever you decide to do a tank, Lawrence, 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:25.360 you need to go ahead and look at the edge 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:28.800 rush and could you ever have too many good defensive 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:31.440 linemen up front who can stop the run? Nope? So, 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:38.000 so to me, wide receiver that nah back burner. And 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:40.880 also every year, what are we the market's gonna get 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:45.680 flooded with So Cooper is signed, you know, Cooper, the 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:47.680 deal's gonna go to the He's gonna go to the 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:49.080 brows of the trade. And what do we see the 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:51.040 Browns telling Jeffers Sandra hey Man, go ahead, look for 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:57.600 a trade, go ahead. You know they're going to be 0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:00.520 dudes out here. Not that not that I would want 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:03.160 this player, but you got Antonio Brown on the podcast 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:08.120 about Heye Jerry, come get me Jared Antonio, right, So 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:10.800 I mean you can you can go get some veteran plays. 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:13.360 You can get some guy, you know. So if if 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:15.920 you Gallop's not gonna be ready week one in my opinion, 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:19.080 so he's not ready to go, Maybe you bring back 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:21.600 Cedric Wilson, who knows, we'll see there. He might impress 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:23.800 hisself albums. But if you got Ceedee Lamb, you add 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:26.479 someone else here on a one year deal who can 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:29.880 catch some footballs from Dak Prescott in an offense that's 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:31.760 put up numbers here. I think they could go and 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:36.199 get someone and you know, maybe you spend the second, 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:39.199 third round, fourth round round a wide receiver. But I 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:42.480 just feel like the Cowboys from a from a defensive 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:45.399 standpoint could use another player in front seven. And the 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:47.960 offensive line needs to get fixed. Yeah, the offensive line 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:50.320 definitely definitely needs to get fixed. And when you're talking 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:52.560 about those receivers later in rounds that you know kind 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:55.320 of became, you know, really good receivers, you know, they 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:57.240 got some pretty good quarterbacks behind them. I mean, you 0:17:57.240 --> 0:17:59.359 look at Aaron Rodgers who he made Alan Lazard, and 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:02.840 you got Josh Allen making Wilson Gabriel. I think he 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:05.239 was at four touchdowns in that playoff game. So they 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:07.520 got some great quarterbacks back there to help them out. 0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:09.480 The question I got to ask both of y'all is 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:12.959 do you think Dak Prescott can be that quarterback that 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:16.520 elevates gonna half the fifth round, sixth round receiver being 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:19.560 something good you that he like? He said, I feel 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:21.280 like he has to be, especially in this league that 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:24.320 it is today, Like it's the quarterbacks that really drives 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:26.439 the franchise, you know what I mean. And if you 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:28.000 want to have a great franchise, you're gonna have to 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:30.080 depend on your quarterback to be that player for you. 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:34.359 So he's gonna have to be yeah, yes, and what again, 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:36.800 I go across this league. I mean DK mccalf was 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:39.520 the first round pick. Tyler Lockey wasn't pick. They played 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:42.159 well in Seattle. Keenan Allen, it's not that standing career 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:45.399 with the charges. He wasn't a first traffick was No, 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:47.920 he wasn't not a first round like all the top 0:18:48.040 --> 0:18:50.440 ruthiers out there. Tybreek Kill not a first round pick. 0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:52.920 I mean, look that there's some good players who are, 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:57.040 but it's just you can win in this league without them. 0:18:57.119 --> 0:19:00.520 You have to have a you know, number one in 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:03.639 terms of a wide receiver. It's very true. There's so 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:06.200 much of it is about the system, so much about 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:08.840 the system and how you're using Terry mclaurina and in Washington, 0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:11.520 I think he's a really fine receivers. He's another guy 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:13.600 who's who's a second round pick. So you can you 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:16.320 can go get some dudes. Well, let me rephrase it, then, 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:20.199 can we win with this system that we have as 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:24.280