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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Mark Vandermere and John Harris with you a summer program

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Speaker 2: that means we're gonna let lose tonight. That means your normal,

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Speaker 2: tight fitted, well rehearsed program will not exist tonight. We're

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Speaker 2: just gonna stream of consciousness this thing. Jonathan Alexander usually

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Speaker 2: joins us on Tuesday, but he's out fooling around doing

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Speaker 2: summer stuff. I don't know what he's doing. He's traveling,

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Speaker 2: he's doing something. But everybody's getting ready for a training camp.

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Speaker 2: And by getting ready, I mean, you know the mental

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Speaker 2: break necessary, Johnny, the calm before the storm, that's right.

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Speaker 2: You know, you get into training camp and I think

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Speaker 2: the casual fan obviously, well, let's go here, because the

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Speaker 2: casual fans not listening to this show. The diehard fan

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Speaker 2: does pay attention to training camp. Yet you know that

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Speaker 2: nothing's going to play for real until September, right, But

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Speaker 2: you want to know how it's going, how's the progress

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Speaker 2: of the offensive line, the running backs, how they look

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Speaker 2: at is CJ is still looking as good as he

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Speaker 2: did in OTAs or Mini camp as he threw in

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Speaker 2: mini camp?

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Speaker 1: Is that all happening a quarter to the.

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Speaker 2: Way I wanted to happen as we embark on the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five campaign. I got some things to get

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Speaker 2: into tonight, because we've come a long way, baby, Johnny.

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Speaker 1: We've come a long way, and I'm going.

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Speaker 2: To get into this how far we've come. We still

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Speaker 2: have some distance to go, but we've come a long way.

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Speaker 2: But I know you're watching Quarterback, which is out on Netflix.

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Speaker 2: How's that going so far? Because you people don't know

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Speaker 2: this about John Harris. You not only know everything about football,

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Speaker 2: pro and college, and you probably have most of your

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Speaker 2: board done for the draft in twenty twenty six for

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Speaker 2: an early version of it. Anyway, but Johnny knows every

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Speaker 2: reality show. He could break those down for you. I

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Speaker 2: was telling my kid he could probably do a Premier

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Speaker 2: league summer off season needs analysis for you if you

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Speaker 2: needed him too, and a whole bunch of other stuff.

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Speaker 1: How's the NBA off season going?

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Speaker 2: But anyway, you also know everything about TV and you

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Speaker 2: are watching Quarterback?

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Speaker 1: It just released last night, I believe on Netflix.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, today was the day July eighth, So went up

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Speaker 2: and uh, oh tonight that today's the Today's today.

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Speaker 1: So I happened.

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Speaker 3: I was reminded I saw on ax for Twitter. Netflix

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Speaker 3: Sports has a Twitter account. Somebody reposted it and was

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Speaker 3: Joe Burrow talking about fossils, and I was like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks out someone watched. It's a pretty compelling trio of

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Speaker 3: Joe Burrow, Jared Goff and Kirk Cousins, especially for what

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Speaker 3: happens in twenty twenty four. Burrow comes back off the injury,

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Speaker 3: they start horribly, make the run late. Goff has the

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Speaker 3: great run throughout the season, and then get commanded in

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Speaker 3: the divisional playoff. And then you've got Kirk Cousins, who

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Speaker 3: ghost Atlanta signs the four year, one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 3: million hour deal, and then they draft Michael Pennix and

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Speaker 3: they they ask him about it, and he you could

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Speaker 3: tell he wants to say more than he said, oh,

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Speaker 3: especially because he still remember the Falcons. But he's like,

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Speaker 3: I just wish I would have known, because if the

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Speaker 3: Falcons had been thinking about that, I would have just

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Speaker 3: stayed minsised it might have been a one year He

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Speaker 3: was alluding to the fact that Minnesota didn't offer him

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Speaker 3: much in the way of longevity staying there security, so

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Speaker 3: it sounded like there was maybe a one year deal,

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Speaker 3: maybe a two year deal something that he thought it

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Speaker 3: would have been longer.

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Speaker 1: But because of the Achilles.

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Speaker 3: So he's like, if I hadn't known they were going

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Speaker 3: to draft the quarterback, I already knew Minnesota was drafted

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Speaker 3: a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I just stay in Minnesota exactly.

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Speaker 2: But he didn't know, but they didn't tell him that,

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Speaker 2: and all of a sudden he goes Dan Lanta and

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Speaker 2: now he gets stuck with Michael Pennix behind him, and

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Speaker 2: he's there and still there. So I think, in some sense,

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Speaker 2: I think the Falcons are sitting on a little bit

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Speaker 2: of an asset for somebody. There's gonna be a good

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Speaker 2: team that has a quarterback that is going to miss

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Speaker 2: some time yep, maybe a whole season yep, and they're

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Speaker 2: gonna call up and say, hey, what would it take

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Speaker 2: to get Kurt.

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Speaker 1: We'll give him second rounder.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, they'll take a lot less, I think, because

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Speaker 2: they just want to get out from under the contract,

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Speaker 2: especially if it's going well for Pennix. Right right, if

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Speaker 2: Pentis gets off to a hot start and there's something

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Speaker 2: like five and two quarterback goes down, right now, you

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Speaker 2: need to trade or you're invited to trade cousins. You'll

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Speaker 2: take less, maybe knowing that the contract is fine for

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Speaker 2: you and they'll take that off your hands. But I

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Speaker 2: would say it's at least a three, maybe a two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's pretty interesting because two of the three

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Speaker 3: I know the quarterback coaches fairly decently. Mark Brunell is

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Speaker 3: the quarterback coach for the Lions, Okay, and he's awesome.

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Speaker 1: I think for Jared Goff, I think both.

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Speaker 2: Former head coaches at Episcopal High School in Jacksonville, you

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Speaker 2: and Mark Burnell.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, me and Mark Burnell and Brunell. I think it's

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Speaker 3: perfect for Jared Goff. And the golf story. We haven't

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Speaker 3: gotten to the Texans game, but they're in a groove.

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Speaker 1: They're in a real groove. But he tells the whole

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Speaker 3: How he got traded from the Rams and kind of

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Speaker 3: what he was going through personally with all that, and

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Speaker 3: he said he was really kind of down and it

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Speaker 3: dumps about it, and then he kept getting his call

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Speaker 3: from an unlisted number or an unknown number. He's like pat,

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Speaker 3: he kept sending it to voicemail, and finally his agent

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Speaker 3: called said, hey, that's Brett Holmes, and brat Holmes had

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Speaker 1: So Goff knew of him, and so Brat Holmes.

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Speaker 3: And we've seen Holmes if you've watched it in the lines,

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Speaker 3: behind the scene stuff you see homes. He is really excitable,

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Speaker 3: very you know, positive guy. And then there's Dan Campbell,

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Speaker 3: knee caps and all that.

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Speaker 2: Well, they call him and they're like, we are so

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Speaker 2: excited to have gotten you, and we love you. You're

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Speaker 2: the best.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna come here and you're gonna make this opportunity

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Speaker 3: of your own. You're our quarterback. You're our guy. And

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Speaker 3: Goff said that made all the difference in the world

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Speaker 3: for him. Wow, since the beginning, they've been telling him,

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Speaker 3: you're our guy. And even for the first couple of years,

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Speaker 3: I remember a lot of people were like, well, you know,

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Speaker 3: in Detroit? Who's going to be the quarterback in Detroit?

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Speaker 3: And you look up and you're like, Jared Goff's going

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Speaker 2: The quarterback in not knowing questions and now nobody is,

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Speaker 2: you know, and you look back and you go.

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Speaker 3: Man, the Lions got golf and the Rams first round picks.

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Speaker 2: You picked up on a subtlety there, though, Brad Holmes,

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Speaker 2: who's forty five now, okay, so he's calling golf golf

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Speaker 2: doesn't pick up?

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Speaker 1: Right? Do you call anybody anymore? If they if you.

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Speaker 2: Know, they might not have your number stored and probably

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Speaker 2: don't give you text first. Hey, person, it's Mark Vandermier

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Speaker 2: from the Texans. Or if I don't have to say

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Speaker 2: from the Texans, Hey, I just wanted to know if

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Speaker 2: you wanted to talk blah blah blah whatever. Right, don't

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Speaker 2: you send a trial text to start the communication and

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Speaker 2: then you schedule a call within a certain window or something.

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Speaker 2: If I just call out of the blue, I don't

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Speaker 2: expect anybody to pick up either.

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Speaker 1: Either seven one three numbers call me.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know about this, and occasionally I

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Speaker 2: will pick up if I'm not doing anything that important,

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Speaker 2: I might. Let's just have a little test here, and

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Speaker 2: invariably it's hello, would you.

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Speaker 1: Like to know? Oh my gosh, here we go. No,

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Speaker 1: I don't call anybody. I don't call anybody.

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Speaker 3: Unless I have If of a name pops up, I'll

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Speaker 3: answer if a number pops up, like if it's the board.

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Speaker 2: And you just put it in voicemail or you'll text

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Speaker 2: on text. Yeah, and then we could set up a

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Speaker 2: time to talk. I'm I'm absolutely that way. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: he wouldn't he God said he got like six or

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Speaker 2: Text him next next time, next him.

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Speaker 1: First, it's been it's been. Uh, it's been really good.

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Speaker 3: But you know on the on the Cousin's side, you

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Speaker 3: know whose quarterback coach is in Atlanta, TJ. J.

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Speaker 1: Yates.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so there there's a point where they beat Week four.

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Speaker 3: Last year, the Falcons are one and two. I believe

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Speaker 3: they beat the Saints on a late Young Way whup

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Speaker 3: field goal from fifty eight. He pulled a kaimi. He

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Speaker 3: Cousins wasn't happy about the way he played, and so

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Speaker 3: on the way home, he apparently this is somebody you

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Speaker 3: picked up from Peyton Manning. He said that he got

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Speaker 3: his phone and he doesn't call the guys.

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Speaker 1: He sends voice memos.

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Speaker 3: So he talks and he does this long voice memo

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Speaker 3: about all these different things. He sends one to Zach Robinson,

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Speaker 3: the offensive coordinator. He sent one to Zach and TJ

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Speaker 3: send it every one to TJ. And then he send

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Speaker 3: another one to his receivers talking about certain things. And

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Speaker 3: he just sicks, I can put that ball round. Like

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Speaker 3: he goes through all of this in these voice memos,

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Speaker 3: which I think is is kind of fascinating because they're

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Speaker 3: still you still have the game grinding in your mind.

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Speaker 3: Everybody does, I mean you and I do. I mean

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Speaker 3: there have been times where you know, we'll call each other.

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Speaker 3: Supposedly when I got bad in twenty one to twenty two,

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Speaker 3: we would call each other about certain things.

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Speaker 1: Or happen all that.

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Speaker 3: But he has all these different voice memos and he

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Speaker 3: just records them all and sends them off, and before

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Speaker 3: he gets home, he's he's made his communication with these

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Speaker 3: particular people that are on his team, whether it's coaches,

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Speaker 3: whether it's players or his staff.

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Speaker 1: So it's a good way to fascinate. It's a good

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Speaker 1: way exactly.

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Speaker 2: And this is another thing that that really applies to everybody.

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Speaker 2: It's good unless you're a little too hot, all right,

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Speaker 2: don't send a hot voicemail. And now this is not

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Speaker 2: a voicemail, it's a voice communication demo. Yeah, but same

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Speaker 2: kind of thing here where.

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Speaker 1: You read the wrong route. You know, you don't want

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Speaker 1: to be like that.

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Speaker 2: You want to be like okay, And I think he

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Speaker 2: does because I overheard you listening to that when I

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Speaker 2: was setting things up here, and I do believe that

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Speaker 2: that's the right way to go about it, calmly, because

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Speaker 2: never send an angry voicemail.

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Speaker 1: You send an angry voicemail, that voicemail.

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Speaker 2: Is going to live forever in that person's phone, and

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Speaker 2: they can always pull it up and listen to your

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Speaker 2: anger long after your anger is gone, and that will

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Speaker 3: That's right, Number two the Tennessee Tights. Remember the Titans

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Speaker 3: the twenty fifteen redraft by PFF draft Danil Hunter edge

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Speaker 3: Twenty fifteen, the twenty twenty four Texans are represented today.

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Speaker 3: Round four, pick one, P thirty one was a guard

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Speaker 3: What's interesting is Brandon Sheriff was the pick a guard.

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Speaker 2: This is twenty fifteen where you were riding with Mallet

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Speaker 2: We all know what happened. Then you won the division,

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Speaker 1: We call you may or may not get to We're

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Speaker 1: like Kimmel.

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Speaker 2: Enjoyed the refreshments. Okay, here we go, and we love

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Speaker 2: Jared Wayne. So two years ago, Johnny, Okay, this is

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Speaker 2: not that long ago. Yeah, two years going into the

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Speaker 2: Now at this point, we are done with the draft.

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Speaker 2: We obviously have Demiko Ryans as our head coach, so

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: And the Texans are predicted to finish where in the

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Speaker 2: AFC South in twenty twenty three, Yes, fourth exactly. Jags won, Titans,

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Speaker 2: Yep, yep, there we go, and it completely well, didn't

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Speaker 2: Where do you think the Texans would be ranked in

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Speaker 2: because you could possibly make it as a wild card.

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Speaker 2: This is what I don't get. Projected wins six point eight.

436
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Speaker 2: How does that even make sense if you're predicted to

437
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Speaker 2: finish fourth. Anyway, we won't get into that right now.

438
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Speaker 2: Care to guess who's thirty one? If the Texans are

439
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,359
Speaker 2: thirtieth going into the twenty twenty three season. Who is

440
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Speaker 2: projected to be the thirty first power ranked team not

441
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Speaker 2: even projected. This is where they stand at the beginning

442
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Speaker 2: of the regular season. It wasn't the Jaguars, It's not

443
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Speaker 2: an AFC South team. The Texans did play this team

444
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Speaker 2: this year. Cardinals are last dead last. Cardinals were lost,

445
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Speaker 2: So the Texans did play this team, and this team

446
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Speaker 2: did a whole lot better than Broncos.

447
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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, Oh, Tampa Bay. Yeah, Tampa Bay.

448
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Speaker 2: Thirty one, Cardinals thirty two, and the Texans and Tampa

449
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Speaker 2: Bay play arguably the game of the year here at

450
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Speaker 2: NRG statey and.

451
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Speaker 3: Tampa Bay in the league. Tampa Bay wins the division

452
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Speaker 3: gets the division round. Yeah, Arizona in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Three, they didn't do a lot, but they had some

454
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Speaker 2: big wins on the road. If you remember, they beat

455
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Speaker 2: Philly on the road, they beat Pittsburgh on the road.

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Speaker 1: They had moments that had some moments had moments.

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Speaker 2: The Titans were picked or they are twenty second and

458
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Speaker 2: the power rankings seven point nine win projection. Okay, and

459
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Speaker 2: that's in the twenties. Was with rabury season that was

460
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Speaker 2: with Rabel. Rabel still coaching the team. Isn't it amazing

461
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 2: though that it's only two years ago. It's two years ago,

462
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Speaker 2: it's less than two years ago.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's how you can get this thing turned around,

464
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Speaker 1: and we did.

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Speaker 3: Yesterday we talked about the twenty five Steve Palizolo from

466
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Speaker 3: formerly a PFF now thirty thirteen. He and Sam Monson

467
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Speaker 3: do a great podcast together called Check the Mic. When

468
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Speaker 3: the bio on Twitter, it's a Check the Mic, it

469
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Speaker 3: said we are anti shouty shows.

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Speaker 1: I was like, that's where I've heard that. I've heard

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Speaker 1: them say it.

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Speaker 2: So that's how the shouty shows are the ESPN, PANTE shows.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Stephen A. Smith shows and Fox and those.

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Speaker 2: All right, So going into twenty twenty three, a couple

475
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Speaker 2: of other things here, the Browns thirteenth in the Power

476
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Speaker 2: rankings going into twenty twenty three, and remember Watson's with

477
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Speaker 2: the team now supposed to have a full year with

478
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Speaker 2: the team. Yeah, plays on the back end of twenty

479
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Speaker 2: two wins. Here they actually finished better than thirteen. Well, no,

480
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Speaker 2: I take it back. They made the playoffs, so they

481
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Speaker 2: were top fourteen. Yeah, they made the playoffs. In fact,

482
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Speaker 2: the Browns in twenty twenty three won eleven games. The

483
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Speaker 2: games and what's interesting, this is why I think this

484
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Speaker 2: is worth bringing up the Colts this year when you

485
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Speaker 2: look at all the preseason stuff like, well, they're going

486
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Speaker 2: to be better at quarterback than they were, They're going

487
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Speaker 2: to be better than they were. Yeah, but you guys

488
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Speaker 2: were sent you guys, the pundits were saying they were

489
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Speaker 2: gonna be okay because at least they had Flaco last year.

490
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Speaker 2: And look what Flacco did in twenty twenty three. But

491
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Speaker 2: Flaco didn't do that well last year. But I'm here

492
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Speaker 2: to say that you've probably felt better as a Colts

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Speaker 2: fan going into twenty twenty four with Flacco as Richardson's

494
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Speaker 2: replacement for lack of a better word, than you do

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Speaker 2: with Daniel Jones as Richardson's replacement. I agree free season

496
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Speaker 2: the way you feel, I agree wholeheartedly. And I think

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Speaker 2: it was listening to Sean and Seth talked about the Colts,

498
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Speaker 2: and I think we've talked about this, and I think

499
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Speaker 2: Seth and I feel the same way, and that is

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Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson has just been abysmal.

501
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Speaker 1: He completes less than fifty percent.

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Speaker 3: I was messed with Cole weeks On our one of

503
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Speaker 3: our younger coaches here, and when they do the walkthroughs

504
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Speaker 3: and such, Cole does the quarterback and stuff because Cole's

505
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Speaker 3: play quarterback before and it's always could have somebody that's

506
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Speaker 3: at least been back there, so the guys kind of

507
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Speaker 3: have an idea and so Cole fired around.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of picks.

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Speaker 2: Because that's what you're doing to those walkthroughs, and I

510
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 2: was like, hey man, can we at least get to

511
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Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson percent completion?

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Speaker 3: And he breathed, broke up laughing. But the thing about

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Speaker 3: it is, I want them to start Daniel Jones. I

514
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Speaker 3: want to see Daniel Jones because Richardson will give me

515
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 3: complete heartburn over those three hours because of the things

516
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Speaker 3: he can do. Now, how often do they show up.

517
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's kind of like a meteor. But we

518
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 3: saw those meteors. We saw him throw one sixty five

519
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Speaker 3: yards off his back foot fading away for a potential

520
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Speaker 3: sack for a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Alec bears like we saw that.

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Speaker 3: We also saw him throw one right straight to Jalen

523
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Speaker 3: Peatree right before halftime. That was an absolute killer. In

524
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Speaker 3: the second matchup last year. But he's scary.

525
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Speaker 1: He's so scary with the ball in his hands.

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Speaker 2: If I were the Colts at this point, if they're

527
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Speaker 2: gonna go with Daniel Jones, then I would have some.

528
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Speaker 3: Or to package with Richardson where he just runs the ball.

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Speaker 3: It just true. It turns into a true single wing.

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Speaker 3: It's just true single wing. He and Jonathan Taylor, or

531
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Speaker 3: he and some goodsin or whomever, and they just run

532
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Speaker 3: the rock out of that formation. Sure, you can just

533
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Speaker 3: step back and throw it. Step back and you're like,

534
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Speaker 3: oh God, there goes one of the deep guys. But

535
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Speaker 3: then again, he still might miss him. I just don't

536
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Speaker 3: I don't fear the Colts with Daniel Jones. I fear

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Speaker 3: what Richardson can do to keep the Colts in a game.

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Speaker 3: But I feel like at the end of the game,

539
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Speaker 3: if it's close, I don't feel like the Texans are

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Speaker 3: going to have an issue with that.

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Speaker 2: What was the better option If we're sitting here doing

542
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Speaker 2: Colts Radio, it's Colts ALEXA, Yes, what was a better

543
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Speaker 2: option at quarterback than Jones? Knowing the situation with Richardson

544
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Speaker 2: heading into year three, the low completion percentage, all of that.

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Speaker 1: The am darnold. Now it had been a roll the dice.

546
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Speaker 2: And it would have cost you some money, it would have,

547
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Speaker 2: but it would have been a serious It would have

548
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Speaker 2: been a roll of the dice to go get him.

549
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Speaker 3: And if you're gonna, if you're gonna pay Sam that money,

550
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Speaker 3: then he's the on questioned starter. I mean paying Jones

551
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Speaker 3: thirteen to fourteen million, And that's kind of sitting on

552
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Speaker 3: the verge of yeah, we think he's the starter, but

553
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Speaker 3: may not be.

554
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Speaker 1: You pay Sam.

555
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Speaker 2: The money that Sam eventually got from the Seattle Seahawks,

556
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Speaker 2: Like he's your starter, Like it's.

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Speaker 1: No question he's got to be the start. You're done

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Speaker 1: with Anthony Richardson.

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Speaker 3: The Daniel Jones signing just says, we can't quite quit you,

560
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Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson, just yet. But we feel like Daniel Jones,

561
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Speaker 3: we like a lot. Is Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 2: The joke where it's you're with your mom and you

563
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 2: want fast food burgers and she's like, we have burgers

564
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Speaker 2: at home, right, and burgers at home is Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 1: Burger's at home. Daniel Jones just kind of like, oh

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Speaker 1: all right, little man, it's not the same.

567
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Speaker 2: It's like the Eddie Murphy thing right, like the Brett

568
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Speaker 2: you're putting it on wonder red and the bread gets

569
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 2: pink from the ketchup. You know this is not yeah

570
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 2: McDonald's or yeah Richardson.

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Speaker 1: Richardson.

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00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 3: Is the one time you get it completely right on

573
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Speaker 3: the grill, everything is just right, You got the crosshats more,

574
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Speaker 3: everything is right that one time. Yeah, and you keep

575
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 3: going back to it thinking you're gonna have it again.

576
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 3: The next one you get it's well done burger. You know,

577
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Speaker 3: everything's just off. There's just it's awful that she doesn't meld.

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00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 2: You're like, God, rather have overdone or underdone if it's

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Speaker 2: gonna be done incorrectly.

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00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: Either way, Richardson's done them both.

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Speaker 2: I'd rather have underdone because at least it's like still tasty. Yes,

582
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 2: I'll take the risk, darn it. Yeah, I'll tell you.

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00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 3: You're right, Daniel Jones is absolutely is your mom making

584
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 3: a hamburger inside and just here you go. You're right,

585
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 3: it's everything that's wrong with it, but it's a burger.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how the Colts now. We had Matt

587
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 2: Taylor on a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, he said,

588
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 2: the excitement level is very high. I know it looks

589
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 2: every NFL city right now at the excitement levels, so

590
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 2: we should.

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Speaker 1: Be yeah, and you know, rip Jim Irsay and all

592
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 1: of that.

593
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 2: But I don't know how man, because the wild card

594
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 2: here is Richardson. Is he suddenly going to erupt? Is

595
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 2: he going to become that guy for you? Because if

596
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 2: he doesn't, you could paint a picture. I could make

597
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 2: a case for Daniel Jones being respectable and being able

598
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Speaker 2: to run an offense with Jonathan Taylor running in football

599
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,479
Speaker 2: very well, thank you, because he did it with Barkley

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Speaker 2: a couple of years ago and they won the playoff

601
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Speaker 2: game at Minnesota. I know Taylor's not Barkley, but he

602
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 2: can be a Barkley facsimile if you will in this context.

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00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 2: Who knows if the Texans have injury issues, paint that picture.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

605
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 2: And the other AFC South Voice interviews we had in

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Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: Taylor Zarzer called cam Ward a born leader. He said

608
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Speaker 1: he's a born leader.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see what that translates into in Nashville. If

610
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 2: he's the leader, they're looking for the guy to lead

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Speaker 2: them to at least respectability record wise, and I think

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Speaker 2: for them respectability would be, Hey, take a little jump here,

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00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 2: six seven wins would be nice for them. They beat

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Speaker 2: the Texans last year with Levis. I don't want to

615
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 2: see them beat the Texans at all, But for them

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Speaker 2: from their context, can they get that much better with

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Speaker 2: cam Wore.

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Speaker 3: That's kind of what I'm hoping from them, is that

619
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Speaker 3: they get six to seven wins.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they close with a couple of wins at the

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Speaker 2: end of the year and they feel like we're there,

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Speaker 2: like they're and then they don't get there. They're not

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Speaker 2: quite there the next year.

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Speaker 3: But you talk about the Colts, here's the Here are

625
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 3: their first five games to start the year. So they

626
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Speaker 3: get to buy week week eleven, so I gotta play

627
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Speaker 3: ten in a row. So they start home Miami, home

628
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Speaker 3: Denver not easy, then at Tennessee, then at the Rams.

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Speaker 1: So they go to home, two road, and then to

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Speaker 1: home again.

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Speaker 3: So they get four to the first six at home,

632
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Speaker 3: and they get the Raiders and Cardinals in week five

633
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Speaker 3: or six. Now Colts can make some hey with that schedule,

634
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Speaker 3: getting first of all, getting four of those game games

635
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Speaker 3: at home, but you're facing at home Miami, Denver, Las Vegas, Arizona.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Arizonas should be better. Miami.

637
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 2: Look they won eleven games two years ago. Again, looking

638
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Speaker 2: back at twenty twenty three like we were moments ago.

639
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: It's amazing.

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00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 2: I said, how far the Texans have come because they

641
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 2: were projected to be the thirtieth best team in the NFL,

642
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 2: and look what they did. They've won ten back to back.

643
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 2: The Dolphins were eleven and six two years ago. Last

644
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 2: year's sub five hundred. The Jets actually went seven to

645
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 2: ten with Zach Wilson, and then they did worse when

646
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers got healthy. I mean, things changed so quickly

647
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 2: in this league, and injuries.

648
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Speaker 1: Play a big part of it. I get it.

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00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 2: The Bengals, though, they're pretty consistent at nine to eight

650
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 2: and the Steelers ten and seven. I don't think the

651
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 2: Steelers is going to be any better than that this year.

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Speaker 2: I think the Bengals could be, but you better play

653
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 2: better defense, and I don't know if that's going to

654
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Speaker 2: happen for them.

655
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Speaker 1: So we'll see.

656
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Speaker 2: We got a long way to go here, and camp

657
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Speaker 2: begins two weeks from tomorrow now. One of the things

658
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Speaker 2: we're gonna be watching very closely because we'll watch everything closely,

659
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Speaker 2: and we'll be live eight to ten every morning the

660
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,719
Speaker 2: first couple of weeks of camp, including at the Greenbrier

661
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: when the Texans travel there for training camp, and it's

662
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 2: really week three or week two and a half of

663
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 2: training camp heading into that first preseason game. Anyway, among

664
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Speaker 2: the things we'll be watching the wide receiver position group.

665
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 2: John Metchi, what's he up to? We had a chance

666
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: to visit with him during mini camp. You have not

667
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 2: heard this, so let's listen in and Jared Wayne as well,

668
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 2: another Texans wide out looking to do some big things

669
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Speaker 2: in camp and beyond. We'll have those guys for you

670
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Speaker 2: next here on Texans Radio. We jump right back into

671
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Speaker 2: the Hundai Texans Radio studio, and as promised, John Metchi,

672
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 2: entering year four, we caught up with number eight right

673
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,479
Speaker 2: before Mini camp. John Harrison, I, you haven't heard this before.

674
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 2: Visited with the wide receiver from Bama. We were just

675
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 2: talking about this as you walked in, and because right

676
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 2: before you we were talking to ARV Smith, like yeah,

677
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 2: Bama guys back to back.

678
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Speaker 1: It was like, wait a second, how many we got?

679
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: Now that's a good question. Before because it's Henry Christian,

680
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Speaker 1: you will or will the he the heck count?

681
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 4: Uh?

682
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 2: So I asked this question on Oh geez, we're definitely

683
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 2: gonna miss something. So I'll ask maybe a simple question

684
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Speaker 2: with a complex answer, But why John, Why what makes

685
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Speaker 2: Alabama so attractive not only to this organization but.

686
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Speaker 1: To a lot of them. Why?

687
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Speaker 3: Why were players from Alabama so coveted? Players and people

688
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 3: like to me go from Alabama so coveted? What is

689
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Speaker 3: it about that place?

690
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Speaker 2: Uh, that makes an NFL team want to go out

691
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Speaker 2: and bring players like you to the building.

692
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good question. I think it's the standard,

693
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Speaker 4: you know, like why we're there. There's a standard that

694
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Speaker 4: we have, a standard that that at the time coach

695
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 4: Sabman had everybody play to and kind of the program.

696
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 4: It's kind of like a professional team already, as far

697
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 4: as the coaches, you have, the schemes you run, the

698
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 4: way you practice, the way you compete. I think it's that, Like,

699
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Speaker 4: I think that's probably why lots of teams find that

700
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Speaker 4: player attractive. You know that, you know that they've been

701
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 4: in a professional like a professional type team already. They've

702
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 4: been through it. They know how to work and they

703
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 4: know how to compete.

704
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Speaker 2: Erv was saying you had three offensive coordinators there, and

705
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Speaker 2: he's been a round the league, so he's got a

706
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 2: lot of different offensive systems. But here you are, Nick

707
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 2: Kelly's the new offensive coordinator here. How is it different

708
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Speaker 2: for you, John, and what you guys do is receivers.

709
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Speaker 1: It's good, it's good. I relate to it a lot.

710
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Speaker 1: I like it.

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Speaker 4: It's very similar to offense I had and with Bill

712
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 4: O'Brien at Alabama my last year, and a little bit

713
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 4: of that Sark offense too because of the West Coast

714
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 4: like so it's been pretty good for us to adjust

715
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,959
Speaker 4: to it. It's been pretty easy. It's fun for the receivers.

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Speaker 4: It's our type of offense for sure. It gives a

717
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 4: lot of power to the offensive players. You know, a

718
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 4: lot of trust with the offensive players. So we've been

719
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 4: enjoying it.

720
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Speaker 2: So this is year four, technically year three on a field.

721
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Speaker 2: How different are you as a player now then when

722
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Speaker 2: you got back on the field in twenty.

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Speaker 4: Three, John, completely completely from top to bottom, even completely

724
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 4: different from last year. Every year I think I've been

725
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 4: able to just recreate my game a lot and get

726
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,959
Speaker 4: more comfortable. Of course, with the game in the league,

727
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 4: the game slows down, you get more experience, you see

728
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 4: how it works, you see how the timelines work, how

729
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 4: teams play. So just completely and to the point where

730
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Speaker 4: I don't even really watch too much old stuff because

731
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 4: I'm too busy, like you know, being vented and moving forward,

732
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 4: moving forward.

733
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Speaker 2: So how have your offseason workouts been personally? How they've

734
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 2: grown or evolved over the years.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the first two it's that you're trying

736
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,919
Speaker 4: to You're trying to make up for so many things,

737
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Speaker 4: whether it's physical or you know, with the injury and

738
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 4: then being sick for a year. So the first last

739
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 4: two off seasons you're trying to make up in the

740
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,919
Speaker 4: whole off season and close the gap to a place

741
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 4: you feel comfortable with being able to perform. But I

742
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 4: think this last off season was feeling really good. Now

743
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 4: you finally get to build. You know, you're not you're

744
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 4: not trying to like recover, You're not trying to close

745
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 4: a gap on anything.

746
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: You're trying to just build on.

747
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 4: Top of what you have and stacking days, stack days,

748
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 4: sharpen the sword, things like that.

749
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no question.

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Speaker 2: You guys typically and I said you guys, I mean quarterbacks,

751
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 2: wide receivers, you guys typically get together in late spring

752
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 2: summer after OTA's are over, Mini camps over. Will you

753
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 2: guys be doing that again? And when you have done it,

754
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 2: what is that done for?

755
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 3: The chemistry with quarter, just the chemistry amongst the group,

756
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 3: the camaraderie of the group, what's the what are those

757
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 3: events kind of meant to you?

758
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:05,479
Speaker 1: John?

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00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, we have and we will do that again this offseason.

760
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 4: And those are really important times because it's the time

761
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Speaker 4: you kind of just get to be together, be on

762
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 4: the field, run routes, hang out of course, but as

763
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 4: far as the football goes, you get to move at

764
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 4: your own pace, you know, get to really work it out,

765
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 4: talk it out, talk through defenses and like different looks

766
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 4: and stuff. So it's just the guys, no coaches. It's

767
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 4: just the guys, no coaches. So it's those are really

768
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 4: just important moments because you really just get to like

769
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 4: digest the offensive scheme or digest the just the philosophy

770
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 4: of how you want to play together.

771
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Speaker 1: You know how this is a rhetorical question. I guess

772
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: how good are these dbs?

773
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Speaker 2: These dvs are pretty darn good. So what do you

774
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 2: see it out there? Because I know they've hadded new

775
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 2: talent as well, but they were pretty good to begin with.

776
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's that. It's that same thing. It's that iron

777
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 4: Sharperen's iron. You know, it's kind of it kind of

778
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 4: reminds me of college. Like you go on the defensive

779
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 4: side and you look over to the offensive side and

780
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 4: you're like, damn, that's a pretty good You go over

781
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 4: the offense side and you look at defense side, You're like, God,

782
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 4: they're pretty good. So I think all in all to

783
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 4: say that you got to show up every day and

784
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 4: if you do that, then the competition level rises and

785
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 4: everyone gets better fast.

786
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 2: You know, John, what's the next step for this offense?

787
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 2: Obviously we talked about it. It's nude like you've had

788
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 2: some experience in it. But what's the next step just

789
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 2: from a thirty thousand foot view to get to the

790
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 2: next step offensively? What does this group have to be

791
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 2: able to do in twenty twenty five?

792
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,760
Speaker 4: I think just trust it, you know, trust the coach,

793
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 4: trust his philosophy and his scheme and his vision, and

794
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 4: everybody buy in. I think we have all the pieces

795
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 4: through and through coaching player wise. I think if everybody

796
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 4: just buys into the one vision, that will definitely take

797
00:37:58,360 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 4: that next step.

798
00:37:58,960 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: Yep.

799
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 2: When you see all the receivers, you know, you draft

800
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 2: a couple of guys relatively early, and you know you

801
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 2: went through this at Alabama when you see the young

802
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 2: guys there and then you're a you're an older guy now,

803
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 2: and I know you know it wasn't like you were

804
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 2: there for five years. But here as a pro this

805
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 2: is going to happen throughout your career where young guys

806
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 2: come in and maybe an older guy comes in. You

807
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 2: have Christian Kirk come in. What is that like for

808
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,720
Speaker 2: you when you see all that. I know, you guys

809
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 2: all get along, you get good chemistry in the room,

810
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:26,919
Speaker 2: but there's a lot of competition as well.

811
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

812
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 4: I've always looked at it like that's what you want,

813
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,439
Speaker 4: you know. I don't look at it any other way.

814
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 4: If you were the only person in the receiver room,

815
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 4: you wouldn't have a you know, I mean, one person

816
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 4: on your own. That your job would be pretty hard.

817
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 4: But I think it's good. It's like in college it

818
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 4: was good for everyone, you know. And I think if

819
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 4: you look into that too much of guys coming in

820
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 4: and then old guys, like there's always somebody that's chasing you,

821
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 4: and there's always somebody you're chasing, you know, right, You're

822
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 4: it's better, you're better off just focusing on your process

823
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 4: and and getting better in that like that way, you.

824
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 2: Know, Okay, a couple of mini camp practices and then

825
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 2: you guys are off on your own. So what are

826
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 2: your plans for the off season? Are you reading a book?

827
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 2: Are you binging a show? Are you going to movies?

828
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 2: Gonna have throwing we're throwing sessions. What's kind of the

829
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,240
Speaker 2: off season? Playing for John.

830
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,879
Speaker 4: Metchi off season plans really just getting around the fan,

831
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 4: going back home, going to Toronto, being around the fam

832
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 4: and just training. You know, I got my little cousins,

833
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 4: all the guys and stuff, and we're just going to

834
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 4: be playing football or whatever sport. We're playing basketball, soccer,

835
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 4: and we're just going to be training all day. Those

836
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 4: are the best ones because it never feels like work.

837
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 4: You could do it all day every day, and it

838
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 4: never feels like you're actually training. It's just like you're

839
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 4: getting stuff done. Yeah, you're just getting runs in and

840
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 4: you're getting stuff done.

841
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 2: In Toronto sounds like seventy two degrees today. That's good.

842
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: So what's it like when that hits when you get

843
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 2: to Alabama and that hits, and you get here in

844
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 2: that summer training camp, weather hits.

845
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 1: What's that like?

846
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's different. You gotta not drink the kool aid

847
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 4: of wherever you're training at. You know, you've got always

848
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 4: keep in mind and that if you're running somewhere where

849
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 4: the weather's too nice, you might want to get a

850
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 4: couple more reps here and be able to, you know,

851
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 4: just push yourself a little more because when you get

852
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 4: back weather it's definitely going to be a factor and

853
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 4: you want to make sure that, like, just like your lungs,

854
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 4: everything is acclimated to stretching and stuff.

855
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 2: And then it flips the other way when we go

856
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 2: play in a cold environment and you're laughing at all

857
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 2: these Texans like five layers on their jerseys.

858
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's both. Thanks a lot for joining us,

859
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: good laciation. Thank you guys.

860
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,479
Speaker 2: There's our visit with John Metshi now keeping the wide

861
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 2: Receiver brotherhood going. What about Jared Wayne? We kicked up

862
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,720
Speaker 2: this conversation. I asked him if it was his first

863
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 2: ever visit in the hun Day Texans radio studio.

864
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 5: It is?

865
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Speaker 1: How about that? It's great to see you all right.

866
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 2: So here you are again, and obviously the team has

867
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 2: added some talent at wide receiver, but you're in that talent.

868
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: You're among that group.

869
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 2: So tell us what you bring to the table for

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00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 2: the Houston Texans. We've seen you out there on the field,

871
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 2: We've seen you make plays, but tell the listen there's

872
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 2: more if you could.

873
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say my game is is pretty well rounded.

874
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 5: I think the best part of my game is is

875
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 5: a deep threat. You know, I'm able to stretch the field,

876
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 5: bigger receiver, strong hands, able to make contested catches. So

877
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 5: I'd say that's that's the strongest part of my game.

878
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,919
Speaker 5: But I'm always trying to refine and fine tune every

879
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 5: single part. So just be the best best receiver I

880
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 5: can be.

881
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 2: So jared when you get here, your first year get

882
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 2: banged up and training camp, so it was kind of

883
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 2: tough to get you kind of get your footing then,

884
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 2: and last year you.

885
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: Got on the field, you be able to make some plays.

886
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 2: Now in your third years, we're watching ot as like Mark,

887
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 2: I've been doing this for a while, so we could

888
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 2: see like when young players are like, oh he's getting it,

889
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 2: Like you can you can see it. They don't even

890
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 2: have to tell you that. You can just see it.

891
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna ask you.

892
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 3: Can you can you feel yourself like, Okay, I'm starting

893
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 3: to get it. I'm starting to kind of understand the

894
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 3: pace and the tempo, my routes, where it would be,

895
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 3: how I'm gonna make this play, et cetera. How much

896
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 3: more comfortable do you fear in year three then when

897
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 3: a rookie.

898
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: When you got here is undrafted free agent.

899
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 5: Man, it's night and day. Just a confidence and and

900
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 5: like you said, just being comfortable out there, the game

901
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 5: slowing down, you know, even though we have a new

902
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 5: offense this year, it just feels like, you know, the comfortability.

903
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: Level is is is?

904
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 5: I'm so much more comfortable out there and so much

905
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 5: more I feel free, yeah, you know, just just able

906
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 5: to go out there and play. So yeah, I feel

907
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 5: great mentally, physically, I just feel like I'm in a

908
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 5: good spot. And yeah, I just got to keep stacking yep.

909
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 2: All right, So you grew up in Canada, right, and

910
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 2: you were playing quarterback as a freshman, and then you

911
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 2: transferred to a high school in Florida, right so, and

912
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 2: I noticed you were drafted by the CFL as well.

913
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,280
Speaker 2: Is that because you would count as a Canadian player probably?

914
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, So yeah, that's that's.

915
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 2: Really handy because you have NFL talent as a Canadian. Yeah,

916
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 2: and that's not entirely rare, but it's it's great for them.

917
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 2: So tell us about that experience of playing that CFL

918
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 2: style football as a youngster.

919
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, so throughout high school really until my last year

920
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 5: of high school, I was playing quarterback. That was all

921
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 5: in Canada. Obviously, play Canadian rules in high school. So

922
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 5: I mean, at the end of the day, football is

923
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 5: kind of football the way I see it. You know,

924
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 5: the main concept of the Canadian game is very similar.

925
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 5: The only thing that really changes is the field size.

926
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 5: The ball is a little bit different. But for the

927
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,919
Speaker 5: most part, I mean, football is football, So it's out there,

928
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 5: you know, making plays.

929
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,240
Speaker 1: That end zone's nice though, right, Yeah.

930
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 5: For sure, for sure, you got an extra ten yards

931
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:40,280
Speaker 5: to work with in the end zone. So yeah, it's

932
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 5: a lot of room to run out there. You know,

933
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 5: you get the ball in your hands and you know

934
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:45,760
Speaker 5: you can make a play from wherever on the field.

935
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 2: So you know, Danny Barrett the running backs a big

936
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 2: time CFL player and coach. Yeah.

937
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, so him and my dad played in the CFL,

938
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 5: so him and my dad are connected and know each other.

939
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

940
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 5: So dB and I always, you know, are having conversations,

941
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 5: always asking how my dad's doing and whatnot. So it's

942
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 5: so cool.

943
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 2: When you decided to when you decided to move from

944
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 2: Canada to Florida.

945
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 3: Was that move solely to say, hey, I want to

946
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 3: I gotta play, I want to play American football in college.

947
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 3: I need to go get some American football experience or

948
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 3: was just an opportunity. What was kind of the move

949
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 3: to Florida about for you and how did that impact

950
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:21,919
Speaker 3: where you are now?

951
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: That was?

952
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 5: So that was my first year playing receiver when I

953
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 5: got to Florida. Really just got a year receiver under

954
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 5: my belt before I got to college. Uh, I got

955
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 5: all of my offers going to camps, so I actually

956
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 5: had my my pit offer before going down to Florida.

957
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: Wow.

958
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 5: So yeah, just traveling to camps, parents driving me, you know.

959
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 2: H yeah, Pitts offered you as a Canadian having not

960
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 2: played receiver, we just want them.

961
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, I guess you know, they saw nothing in

962
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 5: my athletic ability, and uh, you know, I made some

963
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 5: good plays out there.

964
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 1: So so did you.

965
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 2: Go to camp at pitt And yeah, See that's how

966
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 2: it works. I've been to many of those college camps.

967
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: I forget. I went to Georgia Tech back in nineteen

968
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: ninety eight and.

969
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 2: I saw all these stud players were on this one

970
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 2: field over there, and Ralph Frigan was with them and

971
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 2: everybody else was over here, and I wonder what they're doing.

972
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 3: They're looking at players. So that was that was really

973
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 3: They walked you in a camp and they just said

974
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 3: you got an offer?

975
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, so it was. I did the camp and then

976
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 5: a couple of days later they called me and said, yeah,

977
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 5: we want you years. So jumped on that and never

978
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 5: looked back.

979
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Speaker 1: There's our visit with Jared Wayne.

980
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 2: Many of these interviews are up on YouTube right now

981
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Speaker 2: the Houston Texans page.

982
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: Go to it and enjoy.

983
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 2: Coming up, we'll go around the league to close things

984
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 2: out on Texans Radio. All right, we went along with

985
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 2: the rest of the show, so quickie segment on the

986
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 2: way out, John Harrison. James Brown is about to side

987
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 2: a contract extension with cbesterday, this one more year with

988
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 2: the NFL.

989
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: Today. He was with Fox a long time ago.

990
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 2: Right, it feels like a long time ago now right,

991
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 2: I don't have the years in front of me, but.

992
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: It feels like long time. But it really hasn't been sneaky.

993
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 2: James Brown is one of the best studio hosts of

994
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 2: rest having it's a direct traffic for that. I think

995
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 2: Metapie has done a great job too his career. It's

996
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:05,760
Speaker 2: not easy when you have eighteen commentators on one set

997
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 2: and you've eighteen it's an exaggeration, but it doesn't seem

998
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 2: like that many. It doesn't seem like that much of

999
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 2: an exaggeration. He does a good job. James Brown. I

1000
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 2: hope he gets the extension. I hope he sticks around.

1001
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 2: He was one of my favorite interviews I've ever done.

1002
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 2: He was so kind and such fun to talk about,

1003
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 2: talk to tell stories.

1004
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: I mean, he was. I love James Brown and I

1005
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: hope he gets the extension.

1006
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 3: He has been great for the NFL, great for that

1007
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 3: for CBS, and I'm very curious. I written an article

1008
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 3: by all full announcing this is something we'll talk about

1009
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:40,479
Speaker 3: for a different day, what these new TV contracts could

1010
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 3: lead to for both CBS and Fox that have been

1011
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 3: the tent poll TV networks for the NFL, but allfull

1012
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 3: announcing did articles saying may not be like CBS and

1013
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 3: Fox stuff games, but they're not going to get the games.

1014
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 2: Oh because Netflix YouTube can go. Netflix and YouTube are

1015
00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 2: about to take over the universe. Yes, and when the

1016
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,760
Speaker 2: NFL fully embraces the international thing, well they have really

1017
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 2: embraced it. But when it's a sixteen game schedule, if

1018
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 2: and when, expect a Netflix and or YouTube to take

1019
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 2: those because they'll get easy worldwide distributions already deal with Yeah,

1020
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 2: they don't have to deal with all these international broadcasters.

1021
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 2: And although that would be nice too because they'd probably

1022
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 2: get a lot of money, but they'll get a ton

1023
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 2: of money from Netflix and or YouTube for those things.

1024
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 2: All right, that's going to do it for the show tonight.

1025
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Speaker 2: This whole show will be available in podcast form on

1026
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 2: Spotify wherever you get your podcasts, So check it out there.

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Speaker 2: Area forty five coming up next, Stay tuned, have a

1028
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 2: great night, Go Texans.