WEBVTT - How Eco-anxiety Works

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<v Speaker 1>Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera.

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<v Speaker 1>It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff you Should Know

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<v Speaker 1>from House Stuff Works dot com? Hey, and welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast. I'm Josh. There's Chuck. This is stuff you

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<v Speaker 1>should know. As you know, I don't think you've ever

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<v Speaker 1>said that the title of our podcast. I'm trying us

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<v Speaker 1>something new like that. Let the Mighty Eagle Sword. So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>have you ever heard of eugenics? Chuck? Uh? No, because

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<v Speaker 1>you tease me before we went on the air and

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<v Speaker 1>I asked you what it was so I might add

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<v Speaker 1>to the conversation, and you refused. I refused to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you did not genuine you really genuinely don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>you you already know the answer to Nope. Okay, well

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<v Speaker 1>let me tell you a little bit about eugenics. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a little history lesson American history to be exact. Early

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<v Speaker 1>twentieth century, there was a movement of foot in the

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<v Speaker 1>scientific community to basically purify the human race, to make humans,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the best we can possibly be. But to

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<v Speaker 1>do that, we had to get rid of humans that

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<v Speaker 1>were deemed deficient. And for those of you listening out there,

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<v Speaker 1>I just made very very strong air quotes with my fingers. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So these deficient humans were anybody from the uh, mentally infirm, epileptics,

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<v Speaker 1>people born blind or deaf, mutes, um, and just basically

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<v Speaker 1>anybody who club foot. Oh yeah, you did not want

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<v Speaker 1>to be club foot in nineteen in America. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is this is a little known aspect of of American history.

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<v Speaker 1>The government got behind this, this eugenics movement. And there's

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<v Speaker 1>actually I believe there's a few people alive today that

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<v Speaker 1>were um sterilized by the federal government. That's eugenics. It

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<v Speaker 1>really happened. Well, I'm glad it didn't take. It didn't take,

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<v Speaker 1>although it almost did. Um elsewhere and a little old

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<v Speaker 1>place we called Germany. Adolf Hitler actually didn't come up

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<v Speaker 1>with this idea of you know, the superman of the

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<v Speaker 1>Arian race, the perfect race on his own. He got

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<v Speaker 1>it from the eugenics movement and a guy named Henry

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<v Speaker 1>Ford who was a huge proponent of eugenics. Yep, little

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<v Speaker 1>known fact. Let's fast forward to the twenty first century.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, there are at least two women walking the

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<v Speaker 1>planet who voluntarily had themselves sterilized. Do you know why

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<v Speaker 1>they did? This. Uh, so they couldn't have babies. That's

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<v Speaker 1>precisely right. How insightful of you. Uh. The reason that

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<v Speaker 1>they did this, yes, was because they didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>contribute to the population and its negative effects on the environment.

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<v Speaker 1>This is their their service to the environment. They were

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<v Speaker 1>making sure they didn't procreate. Ever, and I'm sure they

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<v Speaker 1>probably went to the press to tout this most definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh and uh, yeah, it was a big deal. There

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<v Speaker 1>was a couple of articles I read on them, and UM,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess what I'm trying to say is I would

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<v Speaker 1>call that an example of eco anxiety. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's I would agree with you there. Do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to define eco anxiety? Uh? Sure, echo anxiety is it's

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<v Speaker 1>a sort of a new affliction that they've yeah, very new, um,

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<v Speaker 1>where people have chronic fears of environmental doom in one

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<v Speaker 1>way or the other, whether it's a global warming, uh, flood, famine,

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<v Speaker 1>heat waves, extinction, that kind of thing. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know exactly how widely um held this diagnosis is,

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<v Speaker 1>but apparently it is real and um it's it's somewhat

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<v Speaker 1>like a general anxiety disorder where you have insomnia nervousness, depression,

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of thing. Um, except it's very specifically triggered from,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, thinking about or being presented with evidence of

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<v Speaker 1>the destruction of the environment or even actually I did

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<v Speaker 1>a little extra research for a change, and um, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these folks even just they'll see they'll obsess

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<v Speaker 1>over like a can or a water bottle. They'll be

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<v Speaker 1>walking down the street and they'll see a can on

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<v Speaker 1>on the road and they'll want to stop their car. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess they'll be driving. They want to stop their

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<v Speaker 1>car just to get bike can probably bike. This one

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<v Speaker 1>lady sifts. Yeah, they'd be on a bike. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>they sift through the trash sometimes looking for recyclables. I've

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<v Speaker 1>actually done that before. I don't consider myself eco anxious though.

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<v Speaker 1>It's more just like, well, this can be recycled. Well

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<v Speaker 1>I've done that. I've I've just taken something off the

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<v Speaker 1>top perhaps yeah, yeah, I didn't like get my hands

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<v Speaker 1>really dirty, right, but I don't. I don't make it

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<v Speaker 1>a point to go around too trash cans to sift

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<v Speaker 1>through them, which I think some of these folks do. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>if that is a symptom of eco anxiety, then maybe

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't new because hobos have been doing that for

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<v Speaker 1>years maybe, right, Yeah, so maybe these are just hobo's

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<v Speaker 1>in disguise, right, they were the first eco anxious yeah exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So um okay, so that's that's eco anxiety. We've we've

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<v Speaker 1>got that covered. Um. And it seems like people who

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<v Speaker 1>are eco anxious, um are just kind of maybe nervous nellies.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is a real outlet forum. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>feeling that might be the case that because general anxiety,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah exactly. It seems like there's general anxiety and then

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<v Speaker 1>emanating from that are these things that can trigger it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>think about it, um, Eco anxieties new uh, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of developed along with um our consciousness of how

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<v Speaker 1>badly we're treating the planet these days. Um. But it

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<v Speaker 1>was fear of flying around before airplanes were invented um or.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's also a lot of a lot of psychologists

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<v Speaker 1>that believe that claustrophobia didn't really generate until or develop

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<v Speaker 1>until the modern city and that kind of living close

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<v Speaker 1>and all that actually lead to claust phobia. So it

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<v Speaker 1>almost seems like this is totally meo pining here. But

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like there's general anxiety disorders, and then it

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of there's there's triggers for different triggers for

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<v Speaker 1>different folks, right, almost like you look for something to

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<v Speaker 1>uh to be anxious about exactly. Well, eco anxiety is

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<v Speaker 1>the new anxiety du jour. So we should probably tell everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what they can possibly do about this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing, right. Well, I know that many people who

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<v Speaker 1>suffer from eco anxiety feel a great deal of uh

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<v Speaker 1>or a great lack of support rather from friends and family.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of times they aren't very understanding because they

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<v Speaker 1>think it's not exactly uh cookie, Yeah, they think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a little cookie or or if nothing else unfounded. Although

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<v Speaker 1>I did notice in the article uh that a gallant

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<v Speaker 1>pole states at thirty six percent of Americans say they

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<v Speaker 1>worry a great deal about global warming, and that same

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<v Speaker 1>pole found thirty of people think that global warming will

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<v Speaker 1>pose a threat to their life, for their lifestyle within

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<v Speaker 1>their lifetime. Right, So I guess that's a I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of believe that as well. I believe in

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<v Speaker 1>got global warming, and I think that it's already having

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<v Speaker 1>some negative effects, but I don't carry it around with

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<v Speaker 1>me on a daily basis. As far as worrying about it,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a difference, right. I think my problem

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<v Speaker 1>with the eco anxiety diagnosis is that any any um

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<v Speaker 1>gesture toward the environment, towards protecting the environment that isn't

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<v Speaker 1>born exclusively out of a sense of responsibility UH qualifies

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<v Speaker 1>as eco anxiety, which I kind of disagree with. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's a pretty good explanation for eco anxiety that eco

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<v Speaker 1>psychologists have come up with, UM and that basically it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a symptom or a byproduct of our increasing disconnection

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<v Speaker 1>from the planet. We have UM, we've created technology that

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<v Speaker 1>has effectively taken us out of any kind of need

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<v Speaker 1>to be cared for by the planet, or we've at

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<v Speaker 1>least UH created that that idea in our minds that

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<v Speaker 1>we have insulated ourselves from the planet through technology. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't need it any longer except to walk on and

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<v Speaker 1>drink the water from it. Any problems we face, we

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<v Speaker 1>can basically engineer our way out of it. Right. But

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<v Speaker 1>apparently we're supposed to connect with the planet, We're supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to feel connected with the planet, So as we get

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<v Speaker 1>less and less connected to it, we're getting more and

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<v Speaker 1>more eco anxious. That's the explanation as I understand it, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And one on that same note, one thing I thought

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of funny. Actually, if you want me to

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<v Speaker 1>be honest, one of the things that eco therapists will

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<v Speaker 1>do at a rate of two fifty uh to help

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<v Speaker 1>you cure this will be to advise you to carry

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<v Speaker 1>around a rock or a piece of bark to connect

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<v Speaker 1>yourself with mother nature. Again. The other suggestion that I

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<v Speaker 1>I read that I liked was to go outside, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to charge somebody two fifty bucks for

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<v Speaker 1>fifty minutes to tell them to go outside, right. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you do that? That's awesome? Sure, yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we don't want to belittle because it is

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<v Speaker 1>a valid If it's a valid concern for somebody, then

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<v Speaker 1>who are we to say that it's not. Who are

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<v Speaker 1>we to draw judgment on somebody who who walks around

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<v Speaker 1>uh in a constant stated panic when they see an

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<v Speaker 1>idling car, let's say, or a water bottle sitting on

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<v Speaker 1>the ground. Uh. So, while we might think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>bit silly, um, they might think that my fear of

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<v Speaker 1>of mice is silly. I think your fear of mice

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<v Speaker 1>is really silly. Yeah, um. But yeah, I can understand

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<v Speaker 1>what you're saying, and I think that's a legitimate thing

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<v Speaker 1>to to point out, because however it manifests itself, it's

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<v Speaker 1>still in a form of anxiety. But this is perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the most productive form of anxiety there is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you don't want to just like curl up

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<v Speaker 1>in the corner with your your chest, your knees drawn

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<v Speaker 1>up to your chest, rocking back and forth. You want

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<v Speaker 1>to go pick recyclables out of the trash and do something,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe go fight off Japanese whalers in the Arctic,

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<v Speaker 1>something like that, right, joined green peace something. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>at least it motivates you to do something that has

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<v Speaker 1>a happy end, right, happy ending, or just carry on

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<v Speaker 1>a piece of bark in your pocket, which is really

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<v Speaker 1>the last do you know, that's not very good advice

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<v Speaker 1>if you ask me. I think they can inspire somebody

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<v Speaker 1>to actually make change instead of just carrying a rock

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<v Speaker 1>carrying yeah, or bark. Um. So, there was one other

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<v Speaker 1>aspect that I found kind of interesting about echo anxiety

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<v Speaker 1>was that it was largely driven by the media. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've I completely agree with that, think our friend Al Gore,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, Leo DiCaprio YEA has inspired with his film

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<v Speaker 1>and an Inconvenient Truth, which was you know, kind of frightening. Yeah. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>as with any kind of UM public policy push or campaign, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>it has to be the problem has to be identified

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<v Speaker 1>and the public has to be alerted to it. But

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<v Speaker 1>we generally, especially in America, are fairly lazy and like

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<v Speaker 1>to have things spoon fed to us. So the best

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<v Speaker 1>way to get us to you know, get off of

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<v Speaker 1>the lazy boy and drop our Budweiser and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe get out there and do something is too scared

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<v Speaker 1>the hell out of us. And and it's a it's

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<v Speaker 1>a legitimate marketing tactic. There's just some there's just a

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<v Speaker 1>acronym called fud, fear, uncertainty, and dread and these are

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<v Speaker 1>actually three marketing ploys to get people to do something.

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<v Speaker 1>So whether it's you know, saving the Polar Bears or

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<v Speaker 1>getting you to go to the Midnight Madness Sale, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the same tactics. And I can see how especially missing

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<v Speaker 1>the Midnight Man is hell. That's pretty bad. But eventually

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get over. You're like, that sucks. I missed

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<v Speaker 1>out on those savings, but I'll live with the with

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<v Speaker 1>the with the environment, the stakes are so much higher

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<v Speaker 1>that I think if you're going to try to get

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<v Speaker 1>people to act you, you have to you have to

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<v Speaker 1>be slightly more delicate. Maybe because you have the eco

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<v Speaker 1>actions out there. You gotta be careful with these folks. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my wife, I wouldn't call her eco anxious, but she

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<v Speaker 1>does worry about the polar bears. Sure, stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well don't we all? Yeah? So, um, I guess my

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<v Speaker 1>advice to our readers would be, and I think I

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<v Speaker 1>speak for Chuck as well, the next time you see

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<v Speaker 1>a well dressed liberal routing through the trash and pulling

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<v Speaker 1>cans out, be extra nice to them because they may

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<v Speaker 1>be among the eco anxious. Or tout yourself as an

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<v Speaker 1>ecotherapist and take money from them. Yeah, keep keep loads

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<v Speaker 1>of bar candy like pharmaceutical samples. Well, don't go anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>We want you to stick around and find out which

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<v Speaker 1>article Chuck and I think has the most useful useless

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<v Speaker 1>information we've heard in quite some time. Chuck, do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to be the big boy who tells them which

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<v Speaker 1>article we think has the most useful useless information in it? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the big boy? Uh, why is it Why is it

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<v Speaker 1>a bad idea to scare a vulture? Written by our

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<v Speaker 1>colleague Kristen Conner, And do you want to tell everybody

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<v Speaker 1>why it's a bad idea? Yeah, because apparently if a

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<v Speaker 1>vulture gets scared, it will vomit on cue. And this

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<v Speaker 1>vomit is not ordinary vombit. Apparently vulture vomit. It smells

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<v Speaker 1>like dead things appropriately appropriately enough, but it also burns, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so you should probably just steer clear of vultures anyway. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, we say useless, useful or useful useless,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on where you're coming from, because it sounds silly,

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<v Speaker 1>But if you ever scared of vulture and it puked

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<v Speaker 1>on you, then you find out it's not so silly. Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>You can arm yourself against this eventuality. Learn some vulture

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