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Speaker 1: What's up Its way up and Angela yee, I'm here

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Speaker 1: with my girl Jazz mem Brands and for real, my

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Speaker 1: peoples are here. Allive math A Loive Mathematics, Cap Madonna's

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Speaker 1: good with you.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 3: First of all, congratulations on everything.

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Speaker 1: We haven't seen each other, I feel like in so long,

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Speaker 1: so this is like a reunion name before we start we.

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Speaker 3: Started telling stories.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, but we do have a new album, Black

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Speaker 1: Sampson the Basket Swordsman on the Way, so congratulations on that.

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Speaker 3: Cap is on the first single too, man Dingo Spaghetti Baby.

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Speaker 3: I need you to talk to a mike.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm on four joints.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you are good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know I saw the video for that also,

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Speaker 1: so that's really all ai Ya I was.

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Speaker 3: We were watching we.

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Speaker 4: Were watching it. First of all, they're attractive.

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Speaker 3: This is very I don't know.

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Speaker 1: That much about ai but clearly is something that we

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Speaker 1: all need to make sure that we are up on.

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Speaker 1: So talk to me about that process because everybody's nervous

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Speaker 1: about it too at the same time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I was too, But for me, I took

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Speaker 5: it back like when I first started DJing with Sirado

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Speaker 5: because I was against Serado for the longest. I'm like,

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Speaker 5: I'm rocking Vinyl. That said, then I actually went to

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Speaker 5: the CDJs for the shows because of the balancing around it,

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Speaker 5: and I avoided Serado. But then when I tried Soerrato, I.

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Speaker 1: Was like, wait, hold on, right, I don't got to

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Speaker 1: carry crates anymore.

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Speaker 5: Exactly, I ain't got to carry that big thing for

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Speaker 5: the record. So I learned after that. I learned to

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Speaker 5: embrace technology and use it. Learn learn about it first

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Speaker 5: through your research, and use it for you know what

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Speaker 5: best fits you. I think if you use AI right,

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Speaker 5: it's great because for one, even on an album, I

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Speaker 5: use like for the skits the karate flicks, those is

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Speaker 5: not karate flicks. That's me changing changing my voice to

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Speaker 5: sound like the karate.

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Speaker 3: That's amazing.

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Speaker 4: Was the idea to use AI so much in the project,

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Speaker 4: to incorporate.

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Speaker 5: It well for that part. Yes, for the video part,

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Speaker 5: because at this point everybody's running around doing different things,

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Speaker 5: and I was really trying to formulate. It's harder now

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Speaker 5: to get brothers to do videos then to get on

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Speaker 1: Wow, I guess it's easier to send something to somebody

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Speaker 1: and they could do it. In the studio, because think

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Speaker 1: about a kapa back in the day when y'all was

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Speaker 1: working and having to be all together in the studio,

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Speaker 1: that's damn thear impossible to get and to even know

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Speaker 1: who's gonna be on the song.

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Speaker 2: But that was some of the greatest and best times

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Speaker 2: because we got a chance to really collaborate. Plus I

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Speaker 2: didn't even have to ask nobody to get on the song.

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Speaker 2: We was all right there. So brothers are hearing me

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Speaker 2: in the studio spitting and they'll just come right in

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Speaker 2: and be like, yo, what's going on and start spitting

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Speaker 2: right behind me. And that's how we was making all

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Speaker 2: of those classics. So sending the music out it kind

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Speaker 2: of does water down the vibe a little bit because

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Speaker 2: you're not really doing personal person collaboration, you know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying. Even with the AI, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I respect modern day technology, but you know I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't really like too much of having people impersonate me.

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Speaker 4: I can understand that.

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Speaker 2: I worked too hard a cartoon.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people feel that way. But

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Speaker 1: to see so I want to hear from you math now.

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Speaker 5: I agree with him. That's why I didn't have nobody

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Speaker 5: impersonate nobody in the video. I told a story a

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Speaker 5: whole different. Yeah, I told a story. It's like, yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's like a movie now now. And I get it

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Speaker 5: because I write too, so you know, I wrote some

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Speaker 5: some people like, well, you taking money away from people

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Speaker 5: not my attention because I would I would love to

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Speaker 5: do it real with everybody, but met for shooting the movie,

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Speaker 5: right logistics hat was on tour, you know, everybody was someplace,

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Speaker 5: and and and I didn't do like the same AI

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Speaker 5: everybody uses and everybody did. That's why when you look

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Speaker 4: Because they look like real people.

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Speaker 2: Right right? I love it though, I love it. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's it's innovative, it's creative, and the fans love it too.

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Speaker 4: So and it's got to be cost effective, right or

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Speaker 5: But it actually is still pricey? It is, yeah, to

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Speaker 5: get what you quality yeah, to get the quality. It's

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Speaker 5: definitely pricey. But at the end of the day, I

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Speaker 5: about Black Samson and I get to continue it. So,

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Speaker 5: but you're gonna get some real videos with this project too.

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Speaker 5: You're gonna get I got a few things. I don't

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Speaker 5: know if I could really speak on it right now.

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Speaker 5: We want to hear you know. Well, well, I also

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Speaker 5: shot a min movie video two so that that'll be

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Speaker 5: dropping soon.

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Speaker 4: You said you dropped up.

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Speaker 5: No, I didn't drop it yet.

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Speaker 4: I shot you shot a mini movie yeah, ok yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah for the album with real actors and AI about

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Speaker 5: this okay? You said, with real people, yeah, real people. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And just so you know, when I started this show

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Speaker 1: way up with Angela Yee, I was very aware that

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Speaker 1: way up was like woo, way way up with Angela

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Speaker 1: Yee because Wu Tang was a big part of who

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Speaker 1: I am today, you know, just like from me interning

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Speaker 1: when I was in college to coming out of school

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Speaker 1: and being around you guys, and I always talk about

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Speaker 1: what a great experience it was. And before I started that,

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Speaker 1: I remember people used to be like, are you sure

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Speaker 1: you want to go work with them? Because loud, you guys,

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Speaker 1: but rody in a great way, you know, because once

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Speaker 1: I got there, I think you'll never feel more protected

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Speaker 5: You know, happened to you?

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Speaker 4: How was it?

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Speaker 6: How was Angela back then? She has stories about you, guys,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she definitely worked hard and you know, even like

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Speaker 2: dealing with us as individuals. You know, she was very

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Speaker 2: much hands on. I mean she used to get me

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Speaker 3: Was working with everything. I was making sure everybody was

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Speaker 2: Right connected. She was like an A and R slash

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Speaker 5: Always she was good people. She's good people because if

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, nobody ever was like when I tell

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Speaker 1: you everybody, no one was ever rude to me in

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Speaker 1: go work for DiAngelo. When I left, that was nowhere

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Speaker 1: and I would spoiled because being there while I did work,

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Speaker 3: And I worked hard.

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Speaker 1: But I also got treated really well, you know, I

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Speaker 3: So thank you guys for that.

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Speaker 2: Left to lay hands on somebody, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, going to jail tonight.

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Speaker 5: It's like, yeah, that's like you know, you know, brothers

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Speaker 2: And we also watched your success, you know, we watched

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Speaker 2: say that you really kept it authentic. You know, you

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Speaker 2: just still the same Angela, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: With of course more expertise and more intellect, but definitely

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Speaker 2: you know, you kept it slid and grounded, you know

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Speaker 1: We respect that, and so and so let's tell some

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Speaker 1: stories from back in the day now, because I want

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Speaker 1: I feel like that has to be celebrated. Also just

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Speaker 1: for you coming in as the DJ, and I know

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Speaker 1: you were pulled in a million different directions because you're

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Speaker 5: They got to that point at once.

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Speaker 1: But you started off as the DJ from Queens, which

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Speaker 3: So how did all of that? And Jizu was the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Jizzu was the first person I worked with. I

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Speaker 5: I was like the younger god and like his cousin's

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Speaker 5: but I knew riz of first, Oh okay, yeah, because

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Speaker 5: I knew Riz from the from the from the rallies

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Speaker 5: at the parliaments. I didn't even know they was cousins. Okay,

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Speaker 5: So we used to go to the parliaments and when

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Speaker 5: know where all the gods and Medina are much meaner, right,

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Speaker 5: that's what they said, all right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: But you know, Rizzi used to be like with the

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Speaker 5: is older than me, but we were still the younger brothers.

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Speaker 5: I was probably like one of the youngest at the

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Speaker 3: And that was the youngest.

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Speaker 5: Yeah okay, yeap so and Meth got me by like

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Speaker 5: six months, okay. So yeah, so I was always a

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Speaker 5: the old older brothers that I hung out with, some

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Speaker 5: of the brothers that Rizzia, the older brothers he hung

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Speaker 5: doing anything, We're doing our thing, whether we drinking forties, building,

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Speaker 5: you know, voming before you know, way before wool you know,

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Speaker 5: I was like fifteen at the time.

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Speaker 1: Think about what forties was doing the community. I mean

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Speaker 1: everybody was drinking forties back then.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so much, just so big.

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Speaker 3: I think they took a forty of water.

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Speaker 5: Yeah right.

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Speaker 1: And so you ended up really working on the Cold

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Speaker 1: Chilling tour Yeah, okay, yep.

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Speaker 5: I started off with Jizz DJing for Jizza.

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Speaker 1: What were those cold chilling days like? Because Jesse told

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Speaker 3: Well because Big Daddy came.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, they got right there. Yeah, they got treated great.

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Speaker 5: But for me, I thought it was still great too,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so we was hooking up. Then you gotta risk

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Speaker 1: Now, Kapa, I always early on affiliated you with more

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Speaker 2: And I remember the day when my man Raider Rutgers

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Speaker 1: Got each yeah each other, No, absolutely, because I always

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 2: That's where all the magic happened, and that's where we

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Riza had a spot up

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Speaker 2: me original at that time. We got to get originally,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Because he was there from

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Speaker 2: We're gonna go get him. And I ain't really want

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Speaker 3: You didn't What did you want to do?

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Speaker 2: Actually I didn't want I just I didn't. I wanted

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Speaker 2: And you got you know, if it wasn't for you, God,

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Speaker 4: So he was just off the dome just I wrote it.

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Speaker 2: I wrote it right now, And I really wasn't righting.

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Speaker 2: just going just going. I never and I did that

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Speaker 2: Like what's going on here? Because I didn't want to

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Speaker 2: They was like, yeah, that's your man's I was like, yeah, yo,

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Speaker 2: and yeah, this was like, Yo, this is a single.

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't want to do it. I was like,

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Speaker 2: Twenty fifth Street, yoo run Yeah, I was show up

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Speaker 2: and I'm glad I did, though. Man, they you know,

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Speaker 1: That's how I was instrumental for you too.

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Speaker 5: Because yeah, because that was your first joint. But that's

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Speaker 3: Wow, that's the type of magic.

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Speaker 2: Yo.

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Speaker 4: Yo, you were there when he made that beat from scratch.

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Speaker 5: From scratch, because we was I remember he was that

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Speaker 5: He was getting a little burned down and he was like, yo,

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Speaker 5: After we came back from the movies, you know. You

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Speaker 5: when we got back to the to the spot, Rizon

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Speaker 5: little nice, but I'm peeping him make the joint, you know.

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Speaker 5: And by seven o'clock in the morning when he finished,

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Speaker 6: I was like, Yo, what ain't that what sidebar? What

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Speaker 4: Because I wonder if that inspire at all, Like I don't.

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Speaker 5: I don't remember what movie it was. I really don't,

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Speaker 5: But I just that beat because I was on the knockout,

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Speaker 5: He broke down the you know, the ASR ten. After that,

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Speaker 1: both of you.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy to not even.

439
00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 1: Know each other, like you know that, but the ASR

440
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:53,960
Speaker 1: ten and then I remember back then everybody had a

441
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,360
Speaker 1: s P twelve hundred or ASR ten because.

442
00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:58,160
Speaker 3: That worked in the office.

443
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,520
Speaker 4: So what are these, I don't know, the equipment that

444
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 4: you used to.

445
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 5: Produce, yeah, or EPs. True Mass had an EPs eight. Yeah,

446
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 5: well the eight oh eight really that was a major

447
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,439
Speaker 5: piece too. Yeah it was. But I think like for

448
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,159
Speaker 5: me eight o eights you could get the eight o

449
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,200
Speaker 5: eight sounds. I don't you know, I didn't. I didn't

450
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 5: have it eight oh eight, and I don't you know

451
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 5: Rizzil probably had one, but I know he used to

452
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 5: rock the s P twelve, The Rigel rocked everything. You know,

453
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 5: EPs curves well, fourth fourth was the curves well, but

454
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,200
Speaker 5: mainly me, Rizzle and the Weft.

455
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,400
Speaker 1: Disciple, True Master, you know, all of all the producers.

456
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 1: Now I want to talk about that because we talked

457
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 1: about AI and how you realize that technology can be

458
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,359
Speaker 1: important and to go for it, just like when you said, okay,

459
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 1: we got to start using different things like serato instead

460
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 1: of having to carry vinyl.

461
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:47,360
Speaker 3: So when it comes to.

462
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,399
Speaker 1: Producing, right, it made things a lot simpler to not

463
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 1: have to have. But how is that for you, Like,

464
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 1: do you still go back to the ASR ten and

465
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 1: the SP twelve hundred. Do you think there's value in

466
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,639
Speaker 1: that or do you feel like, well, we've moved technology

467
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 1: wise so far past that it's not even necessary.

468
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 5: Oh no, I still use the AIRSR ten, but I

469
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,440
Speaker 5: use it differently. So now like back when I first

470
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 5: started using the ASR ten, I was sampling, I was

471
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,399
Speaker 5: chopping my beats, and I would consider myself then not

472
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,959
Speaker 5: really a producer. I would say I was a beat maker.

473
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 5: I made a lot of beats and a lot of

474
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 5: dope beats. Now I'm a producer. I understand arrangement songs,

475
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,160
Speaker 5: you know, I understand it all. And now I don't sample.

476
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 5: If I sample, I sample me, okay, like I make

477
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 5: what I do. I make my own sample. Then I

478
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,679
Speaker 5: start working from there. So I run it into the

479
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 5: ASR ten and let it come out because it's a

480
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 5: certain warmth to a certain sound. And you know, I

481
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,239
Speaker 5: play a lot of stuff, but then I'll get like

482
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 5: with this album, matter of fact, I got something for y'all.

483
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 5: Matter of fact.

484
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, it's like limited edition.

485
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 5: Limited edition. It's the limited edition.

486
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 3: I know, that's right.

487
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:57,439
Speaker 1: See this is what is.

488
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 3: So look at how beautiful.

489
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:12,439
Speaker 5: To each one. Each cover is totally different to the insides.

490
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 2: You know.

491
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 4: I love this.

492
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 1: So yep, and to be clear from mathematics is and

493
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: I know we always got to bring this up. He's

494
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: the one that designed the Wu Tang logo that iconic.

495
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 4: Can we get a little backstory on that and like

496
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 4: how that came about?

497
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,919
Speaker 5: Well, I always did you know, I drew I did graffiti.

498
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 5: Brothers knew it. I used to carry a black book

499
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 5: with me too, so a lot of times, like being

500
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 5: with Jizo used to be hanging out, you know, I

501
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,120
Speaker 5: would sketch certain things in my black book. And we

502
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 5: was talking about, you know, in the beginning of formulating

503
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:50,679
Speaker 5: Wou Chang having something that would capture everybody eyes, something

504
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,360
Speaker 5: that people could see, like some type of symbol. So

505
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 5: I did original stickers for him when he was on

506
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 5: Tommy Boy. So when was on Tommy Boys, Prince Raki,

507
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 5: I did his original stickers and I thought he wanted

508
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 5: me to do something like Prince Raquin or something like that.

509
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 5: He's like, nah, I want you to do Woo Chang.

510
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 5: Put Wouchang on the stickers. So I was like, Woo Chang.

511
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 5: I said, that's dope because we love karate flicks. But

512
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,640
Speaker 5: I didn't really get it at the time. So I drew,

513
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 5: you know, Woo Tang. I put the sword there, put

514
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 5: the ying and yang in there, and those was his

515
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 5: first stickers. So when we started doing the Woo Tang thing,

516
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 5: and you know, we was talking about different designs, I

517
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 5: was always drawing, so I drew. I drew a w

518
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 5: one time with the hand coming out holding the head

519
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 5: because he was always talking about taking heads. Yeah, always

520
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 5: talk about stuff like that. So how it actually really

521
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 5: came into existence, I was working at the time. I

522
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 5: went back to work. This was after cold chilling, and

523
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 5: I was a carpenter.

524
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: You know that's still handy to this day.

525
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you know, my pops was a carpenter and

526
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 5: when he's seen things, wasn't going well for me. He

527
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 5: actually bought me you back. He's like, nah, come with me,

528
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 5: come over with me. So I was.

529
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 3: Jesus was a carpenter.

530
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 4: That's the fact.

531
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 5: Jesus was, and I was working. I was working at

532
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 5: two undid Back Street. Matter of fact.

533
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 1: Oh that's right where all the labels. Def Jam was

534
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:15,479
Speaker 1: right there too.

535
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 5: Def Jam was down the block. Yeah, E one is

536
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 5: in there now, okay, right, s Obs is downstairs, right right.

537
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 5: I came home from work one day and Wherezza called me.

538
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 5: He caught me coming in the door. You know, this

539
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 5: is before like the cell phones. Everybody had cell phone

540
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 5: called the house phone.

541
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 2: Right.

542
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,199
Speaker 5: I heard the phone ringing, so you know, I go

543
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 5: in the kitchen. I answer the phone. It's he's like, yo,

544
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 5: you know, I'm getting this joint printed up tomorrow. I

545
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 5: need I need a logo, but I needed by tomorrow.

546
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 5: So I was like tomorrow, right, I'm just getting in right.

547
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 5: I'm like, I bet, I said, but you're gonna have

548
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 5: to come pick it up for my job. So he's like,

549
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 5: all right, where you at? So I told where I

550
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 5: was at. So I got off the phone, I went

551
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 5: across the street. I was and forty projects at the time,

552
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 5: right right off the south road. I went across the

553
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 5: street to one hundred and sixty to the store, got

554
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 5: me a cold forty ounce.

555
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 3: Here we go.

556
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 4: All the magic happens when it comes out.

557
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, with a forty ounce, right, and then I

558
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 5: had some chocolate tie because once you want to suthing,

559
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 5: they used to have chocolate tie back in the days.

560
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 5: So I had some chocolate tarp. I browe me a

561
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 5: Philly blunt, right, and you know phillies burned fast. But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

562
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 5: So I smoked me, you know, smoked the Philly blunt,

563
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 5: drinking my forty and I actually sat on the floor

564
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 5: and drew it on the floor because I was more

565
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 5: comfortable drawing on the floor. Okay, so I drew it

566
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 5: on the floor. When I drew it, you know, it

567
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 5: was getting late. I'm looking at it. I'm like, yo,

568
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 5: this gotta be it because I'm going to bed and

569
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 5: I'll go to work.

570
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

571
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 2: Yeah.

572
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 5: So the next day I'm at work working, right, you know,

573
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 5: my pops is there, the other workers is there. I'm

574
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 5: the youngest on the job. Everybody's grown men.

575
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 4: That's a theme too. You are going to be the youngest.

576
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you're always the youngest. And the elevator than

577
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 5: doors open up, power Rizza divine and ghosts come walking

578
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 5: out the elevator. The whole site kind of just stopped.

579
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 5: Everybody looking like who is these dudes? Right? Then? You

580
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 5: know how they coming. They come with the hoodies, the Thames,

581
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 5: you know, cam O thug out and all that. But

582
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 5: I see him, I'm like, okay, hold on, give me

583
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 5: one second, so I have to run back to my

584
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 5: little cubby wole. I had my black book. I came,

585
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 5: I bought it, showed it to him.

586
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 4: Were you nervous when you showed it to them?

587
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 5: Nah? Okay, okay, yeah, so you know I showed it

588
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 5: to him. They opened it up. No, I opened it

589
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 5: up and I showed him and I gave him the page.

590
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 5: So I seen like Rizza looked at it, shook his head,

591
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 5: He passed it down, took the vine, looked up and

592
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 5: shook his head. They all went down the line and

593
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 5: ship the past and it is like, yeah, this is it.

594
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 4: And it was one shot.

595
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 3: Things like that don't happen today.

596
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: First of all, somebody can't call you and be like

597
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 1: I need a logo, but I need it by tomorrow.

598
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 4: And you get on, you sit on like freestyle like

599
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 4: I mean.

600
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's amazing.

601
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 1: And I love the detail in it because when you

602
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: drew it, did you know like this is amazing, because

603
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: sometimes we don't know how amazing something is.

604
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 5: No, I didn't. I just looked at it like it's

605
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 5: another piece, you know, it's another piece of art that

606
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 5: I did. I had no idea it was going to

607
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 5: be what it was going to be.

608
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: The most iconic logo and hip hop probably in music period.

609
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: Can you think of an a logo that is anywhere

610
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: near that. I just think that's something that people even

611
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: if you didn't grow up listening to Wu Tang and

612
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: you're a kid now you know that.

613
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 5: W Yeah, that's true. I remember Ray told me one time,

614
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 5: He's like, yeah, I was in the airport. I've seen

615
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 5: this dude. He had the WU logo chatting on his

616
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 5: face that yeah. He said, you threw youre yeah yeah,

617
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 5: told me like no, he walked right past me. He

618
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 5: didn't know who I was.

619
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 4: But he got this, but he got the logo on

620
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 4: his face. But that's what I'm saying.

621
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: That's what makes something I kind of that a clothing

622
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: line that has that logo because people buy that clothing

623
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: from like urban outfitters, you know what I'm saying, from everywhere,

624
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: like how would look? And I see kids wearing it,

625
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: and I know they probably are not that verse. You know,

626
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: everybody don't know it, but everybody's wearing it because that

627
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: brand can stand by itself. Now, another thing that we

628
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,959
Speaker 1: talked about previously. Remember park Hill day, okay, and you

629
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: remember I had Eminem come out, So I remember that, yo,

630
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: So we got to talk about that.

631
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 4: Raised I don't know this story.

632
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 5: Well, he was Reine though, yeah, so but you don't

633
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 5: want because I remember he called me one day.

634
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 3: Yes, So here's what happened.

635
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: This was before Eminem was and Paul was managing him, right,

636
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: So look, so I'll tell the full.

637
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 3: Story because I don't want to give nobody privs. But anyway,

638
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 3: I used to.

639
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: Date this guy and he he was cool with Eminem

640
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: and so he introduced me to you know them and

641
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: Paul Rosenberg and everything, and so I was like, he's dope.

642
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: I saw him perform at Lyricist Lounge and I know

643
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: you guys are doing Lyricists Lounge too. We'll talk about

644
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: that in a hot second. But lyricists lounge was like

645
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: where people were freestyle. They would wrap out kind of

646
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: like eight mile Yes, and so Eminem would come in

647
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: there and say the craziest stuff. So I was like, okay,

648
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: we got park Hill Day coming up. Park Hill Day

649
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: was in Staten Island. It was a big event. It

650
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: was free for the community, which you know, maybe we

651
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: need to do another one, but it.

652
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 3: Was free for the community.

653
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: So it would always be like black Moon would come out,

654
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: you know, mob deep like all the friends of Wu Tang,

655
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: and so I had Eminem come early and open because

656
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: I was like, look, I'm gonna get you on this,

657
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: you know whatever, because he's dope and I knew nobody

658
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: people like didn't know him like that.

659
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 3: So he came out and.

660
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: Performed, and I remember after where they were like, yo,

661
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: he was dope and that was that, and I was like,

662
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: y'all should sign him. I didn't know anything about that though,

663
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: because I was super young, and I was like, you

664
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: guys should sign him. And they were excited, like that

665
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: was one of the most exciting things, you know, for

666
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: him back then to meet everybody and for people to

667
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: be like, yo, that kid is really really dope and

668
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: Matthew always talk about like, man, I got his demo.

669
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I didn't know and then I just remember.

670
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 5: The main thing I remembered was, I think it was

671
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 5: a little bit later when he had my name is

672
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 5: when that came out. He called the crib and he

673
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 5: was trying to he wanted a beat for me. I

674
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 5: was like, oh, yeah, definitely, let's do it. And I

675
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 5: remember I said, I'm gonna I give you the office number.

676
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,239
Speaker 5: Call up. They let them set it up. I gave

677
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 5: him the office number. I never heard nothing after that,

678
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 5: So I don't know what happened. I don't know what happened,

679
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 5: but I think you was the one who actually gave him, Yeah,

680
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 5: my number.

681
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: I was like this, I was really going hard. But

682
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: that's why we still have a relationships to this day.

683
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I wish we would have just I should never

684
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 5: sit in our quarter office.

685
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 4: I should have been like between us, Yeah, you do

686
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 4: the right thing.

687
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

688
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 5: I don't know what happened, but.

689
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: Just think about like those you know, early days, there's

690
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: a lot of people y'all came across that ended up,

691
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: you know, blowing up afterwards because Wu Tang. I think

692
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: there were so many of y'all too, even just aside

693
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: from the group, just all of the like offshoots and

694
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: you know, Killer Army, Sons.

695
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 3: A man, Yeah, kill a priest, Yeah, kill a priest.

696
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 5: Yeh sh the Grave Diggers, Braves.

697
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: It really like sprouted off like a whole bunch of

698
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: different things. And even for you capt it out of

699
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: the Pillage that was your first solo album, yeah ninety eight.

700
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: I still have my Pillage T shirt at home. I

701
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: keep all those things. Those are like things that people

702
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: aren't going to have that history, and you know, for

703
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: somebody who never wanted to be in the spotlight like that,

704
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: it's interesting. I saw Rizzard was talking about this one

705
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: day when he was like somebody asked him in an interview.

706
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: They were like, yeah, you know, Kappa is driving a cab,

707
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: and he was like, one day he's driving a cab,

708
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: next day he's driving a Bends cabin.

709
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 3: Is just a unique individual.

710
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: And I saw that at one point you were like,

711
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: I just don't even I want to give up all

712
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: my material goods, Like talk to me about what.

713
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 4: Was going on.

714
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, to me, it's just all about

715
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: staying grounded. You know. I never let the the fame

716
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 2: rule my name. You know what I'm saying. I'm about

717
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 2: you know I'm about God. I'm a spiritual man. I see,

718
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 2: I've been there, done that, you know what I'm saying.

719
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 2: And I'm just grateful to still be able to contribute

720
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 2: anything to the people. You know, wos for the children,

721
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 2: and you know, I just I just want to share

722
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 2: myself with the with the empire man like you know,

723
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 2: play my part and play my role to the best

724
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 2: of my ability. But at the same time, I don't

725
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 2: want to lose myself in the music. I don't want

726
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 2: to lose who I am. You know what I'm saying

727
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 2: that the man that you know behind the brand. You

728
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like, I just want to be

729
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 2: me and be accepted for me. So that way, whether

730
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 2: I'm up or down, you still know me for who

731
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 2: I am. You know what I'm saying. Don't let all

732
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 2: the glitter and glamour define who I am as a person.

733
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 3: Did you feel like you ever lost yourself?

734
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 2: You know, because I never. I never let myself go.

735
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, we deal with depression and certain

736
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 2: stresses in the game because you're making transitions, just like

737
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: you going from a child to a teenager, from a

738
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 2: teenager to a young adult. You know, those are transitions.

739
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,240
Speaker 2: You know, I've tried marriage, you know, I had children,

740
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: and you know, these different aspects of life, you know,

741
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 2: moving around from place to place. I lived in Chicago,

742
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 2: I lived in Arizona, you know, in Pennsylvania. And I

743
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 2: was always able to maintain and keep myself grounded by

744
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: not forgetting where I come from, you know what I mean.

745
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: So that's important to me, you know, just being able

746
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 2: to live off the principles of life. You know. And

747
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 2: I named my company after the same way that I think.

748
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 2: My company is called God Love Family. That's my clothing line,

749
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 2: God love Family in that order, because you got to

750
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 2: put God first in everything you do, you know what

751
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,760
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So it's God, then love, and then family.

752
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 2: There's nothing else because outside of that, you know, everything

753
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 2: else is temporary, because when you leave here, that's all

754
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 2: you gonna have is God loving family. You ain't taking

755
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 2: none of this with you. Your contribution to the world that's

756
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 2: already set, like you said, my Pillage album, that's already

757
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 2: set in stone. You know, they can't nobody can't take

758
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 2: that from me. I did it.

759
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 5: I had a gold album.

760
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 2: It was successful. I did it in two weeks.

761
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 5: Some people called me up, Oh you did it in

762
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 5: two weeks.

763
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,479
Speaker 2: Two weeks gold album. To me, that broke a wool

764
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 2: Tang record. But they don't talk about that, and I

765
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 2: don't mind me.

766
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: I didn't realize because I think I went there. I

767
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: remember slang editorial run hit songs. After that album. I

768
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, that's why I feel like I might

769
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: have got a little shot. You know how people used

770
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: to read the credits and you'd be so hyped to

771
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: see you and thank you.

772
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 3: I think I got a date.

773
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 1: I tried never to forget that.

774
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 5: I do that.

775
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 2: I still do it too.

776
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 3: I still thank you.

777
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 5: Because for one, yeah, you want to show your appreciation

778
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 5: of others that actually helped you do this, you know,

779
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 5: and even with cat right the pillage my first that

780
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 5: was the first joint that I made on the Wouchang cut,

781
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 5: which one, oh, Donald, that's the first time I made

782
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 5: the cut on the woul Tang problem.

783
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 3: Okay, did you know that?

784
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 2: Cap No? I did?

785
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 3: See we learning because everybody's just working.

786
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, look, power Power hooked me up. My first round

787
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 5: I ever did was a remix of some jungle Joint

788
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 5: that was overseas Okay. Then I did the NFL Jams

789
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 5: with Ghosts.

790
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 3: Oh you know what's crazy.

791
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: So Scotty, who owns the studio where I do my

792
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: podcast from, he was that character music. They did that

793
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: NFL Jams compilation album where they paired up hip hop

794
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: artists with NFL players, and you did one of the

795
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: songs on there.

796
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 5: That goals and Andre Bison.

797
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 3: Yep, it's crazy.

798
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 5: That got me to my first super Bowl.

799
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 2: Just thinking about by the success popped out from one

800
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 2: can of paint.

801
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 5: Yeah right, but but but the pillage I actually put

802
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 5: that album together. I see quenched the album. I got

803
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 5: the like we need yeah, and I never did it before.

804
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 5: So I'm like, I you know what I mean. I said,

805
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 5: I'll be up there.

806
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 2: The Prince did the some of the ad libs and

807
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 2: all of that. But on the Something, yeah, that's when

808
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 2: I listened to it. You know, it was one prob

809
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 2: was like killing all, raping what we wanted. That's what.

810
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 5: I was like, whoa, you know what I mean?

811
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 2: But you know, the album was such a success.

812
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 3: Sequence I was like, whoa.

813
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 2: I was grateful for everybody's participation and it was the

814
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 2: pilbum still got me to that is true to this day,

815
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 2: thirty years later. I'm still touring. I just came from

816
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 2: South America. I did two tours over there. I just

817
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 2: for that. I was all through Europe. So yeah, I'm

818
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: still doing shows. Man. I just came from the David

819
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 2: Chappelle show out there with with a Ghosts and Tyler.

820
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,479
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I tell you did the people party. Yeah,

821
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 1: that's how you do a Winter Wards. That's everybody's top

822
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 1: ten all time. Yeah, people say it, people always talk

823
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 1: about that, but.

824
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 2: I don't know that was because to me, I was

825
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 2: the first one to do a long dart like.

826
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 3: That and it kind of fades out.

827
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 2: The whole song kind of faded me out on that

828
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 2: because they acting like yo, hold on, man.

829
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 3: Was there more after that that we didn't hear because

830
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 3: I don't know.

831
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: I don't so you know, a lot of dark Man

832
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 2: was on that was on the on that Win Awards

833
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 2: before me.

834
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 3: Oh wow.

835
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 2: So when I came in the studio and did that,

836
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 2: then his verse got knocked off and that's how we

837
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 2: used to do it at that time. But I wouldn't

838
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 2: have made it there. That would have been a lot

839
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 2: of dok Man on that song.

840
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 3: Oh wow, that's good.

841
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: That sucks again, knocked off too, because it happened all

842
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: the time, you know. But that's you got to show

843
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: up because you think you did these verses and you

844
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 1: don't know what's gonna make it. Sometimes you don't know

845
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: to the album come out.

846
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 2: That's why it's witty, unpredictable talent.

847
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 5: Look, look, look, or you bring a beat to the

848
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 5: studio and somebody get on your giant rocket and then

849
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 5: you hear that verse on another record, that beat.

850
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 2: Like the way hold up. I heard another version the

851
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 2: run from Ghosts Jada Kids. I wasn't you know?

852
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, they did well mathematics as a beat maker, did

853
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,439
Speaker 1: you get credit in the production as because you said

854
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: you weren't necessarily a producer?

855
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,240
Speaker 5: No, I got credit, Okay, get credit, but me growing

856
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 5: and developing with music, I look back now like I

857
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 5: was a beat maker. Yeah, like I was considered a producer,

858
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 5: Like when you hear joints like Cobra, Clutch and Publicity,

859
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 5: I was considered producer. But I'm listening now, it's like

860
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 5: now I made some banging beats.

861
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: Yeah you did, and this new album we haven't even

862
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: talked about that. Yet there's some banging beats on this

863
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: new album too.

864
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 4: You and I both have a favorite.

865
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 3: We like Claudine and I like World Lion, but of

866
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 3: course we like Mandingo, even the intro.

867
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: And you know, you started to inter with Corrupt and

868
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: Rob McDaniel's legends and this as well. And it also

869
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: made me think about people we've lost, like he's like

870
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: r I P Nate Dog r P o dB. Just

871
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: think about during this period of time that you guys

872
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: have been in this game.

873
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 3: You know, we've.

874
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: Suffered a lot of losses and hip hop and it

875
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: feels like it's just something even now, so many young artists,

876
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: you know, gone, And I even think about that day,

877
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: you know, we're Dirty.

878
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 3: There was a concert, yeah, the.

879
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 5: Night before I think it was in Jersey, Jersey, ye

880
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 5: at the Medlandlands Arena.

881
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: At the Meadowlands, and I was I was at the concert.

882
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: I was doing some interviews like backstage or whatever, and

883
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: Dirty didn't show up, but he did catch like a

884
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: later fight and then go to the studio and that

885
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:11,439
Speaker 1: was like a horrific day.

886
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 3: I'll never forget that day. Do you remember where you

887
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:15,879
Speaker 3: were when you heard the nose?

888
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 5: Of course, because after that. After that day, I just remember, like,

889
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 5: you know, he missed the show and we was all

890
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 5: going to go to the studio that day, you know

891
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 5: and talk to him like yo. And I just remember

892
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 5: like we had a late night. I got home up late.

893
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 5: I got up, got up late. So when I got up,

894
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 5: it was seven. Seven called me right, and I remember,

895
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 5: you know, I love grits. I had just made me

896
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 5: some grits and I put the grits in the bowl

897
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 5: and everything, and seven called me. So when I answered

898
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 5: the phone, I was like, yo, seven was good. And

899
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 5: then he was like, well, you know, real silent. I

900
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 5: can't even explain it. It just was kind of like damn,

901
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 5: like I knew something was Then he said he didn't

902
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 5: even say peace. He said you standing up or you

903
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 5: sitting down. So I was like, I'm standing up. He's like, bro,

904
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 5: I'm gonna need you to sit down. So I sat

905
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 5: down because you know, you know seven and seven he's

906
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 5: not going to play a round. He don't play, you

907
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 5: know what I mean. So I sat down and when

908
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 5: he told me he said, yo, dirty past I just

909
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 5: remember I hit me just like I never even ate

910
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 5: the bowl of gritz.

911
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 2: Never.

912
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 5: It's like I yeah, that just kind of yeah, I remember, yeah,

913
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 5: I definitely remember then. I remember I went to the

914
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,240
Speaker 5: studio because that's when we moved to the thirty fourth Street.

915
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 5: But when I went up there, I seen like there

916
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 5: was a lot of cars out there, the news and

917
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 5: all that. So I just I just made a U

918
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 5: turn and went back home, you know.

919
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 3: I was you know, yeah, you remember where you were

920
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 3: a kapa when you heard.

921
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 2: I was on the island now in park Hill and

922
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 2: I got the call. I probably may have been I

923
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,280
Speaker 2: forgot who called me, and may it may have been cold,

924
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,879
Speaker 2: so somebody. I don't know, but I quickly just went

925
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 2: right over there. So I was up there. When I

926
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 2: got to the studio, he was still laying on the floor,

927
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, he was just laying there

928
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 2: and it was just like, yeah, that was that was

929
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 2: that was crazy. You know. I just started praying. I

930
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 2: was praying and there you know, ghosts came in, you know,

931
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 2: we was we was all very emotional, right, it was

932
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:43,919
Speaker 2: emotional time, and yeah that's that's I just was there

933
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 2: and I just stayed there too. To they today, so

934
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 2: everybody started leaving word, but but he his body was

935
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 2: there for a long time, just just laying there like

936
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 2: I don't know why they didn't.

937
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 3: I guess you know it was a scene, right investigation.

938
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but but yeah he was just right there, man,

939
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 2: laid out in the studio, you know. But always look

940
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 2: at it like, you know, he's still with us.

941
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 1: Man.

942
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 2: He transitioned on his time, and he did it his way,

943
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And that's that's something you know,

944
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 2: to to live by. You gotta live life your way man, good, good,

945
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 2: order bad, because at the end of the day, you know,

946
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 2: you you gotta be happy. You gotta make yourself happy first,

947
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 2: and you know, in order to make other people happy

948
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 2: or to feel any kind of ways, just vib It

949
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 2: was a vibe man. We love you.

950
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: Dirty right, and what a special unique talent that I

951
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: think nobody will ever be able to recreate.

952
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 3: And his kids.

953
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 1: Though, we actually his kids some of them are doing music.

954
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: Matth your son is here today.

955
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he's doing music. He's doing He actually coped

956
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 5: with one of the joints of me Warriors too Coolie.

957
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: The single another single, Okay, was he the one that

958
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: said Benny the Butcher listen. Sometimes you need that though,

959
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: because your kids will put you up on things.

960
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, they put you off keep you young, Yeah,

961
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 5: they keep you young. They definitely do.

962
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 3: Like what are some things that your son has taught you?

963
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 5: Or always to listen, not just because I could tell him,

964
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 5: like sometimes he'll tell you. I try to break things

965
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 5: down for him musically because I want him to get

966
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 5: it quicker than I got it, you know, like listen

967
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 5: to this, or listen to catch the instruments or whatever.

968
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 5: But he has a younger year and as far as

969
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 5: like with the technology or certain things that you would

970
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 5: do with music today that he does that'll give it

971
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 5: a certain flair to it. I had to learn to

972
00:46:54,320 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 5: listen to him too, because anything music, that's what I do.

973
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 5: That I listen to music, it becomes anything in music.

974
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 5: I'm a student. I'm a student first and foremost. Even

975
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 5: in the making of this album, it's like one of

976
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 5: like you said, you love Claudine. That's the song that

977
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 5: actually the first song I made for this album.

978
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: And that reminds me of like especially you know, ghost

979
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: Face when he gets emotional and.

980
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 5: He's so The crazy thing about that is the night

981
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 5: I made that record. My mom's past so and I

982
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 5: grew up in a house that was full of music

983
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 5: for my pops, my moms, my brothers and sisters. Because

984
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 5: I'm the youngest, I'm the youngest son. I have one

985
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 5: youngest sister. Yeah, but I had a lot of older brothers.

986
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 5: So music was always being played. And my mother loved music.

987
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 5: And it's like the night she returned, I just remember

988
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 5: I went downstairs into my studio and you know, I

989
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 5: was by myself, and I just played all the a

990
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 5: lot of not all the joints, but a lot of joints.

991
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 5: She used to listen to my young like from Solomon

992
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 5: Burke to Al Green and you know Jackie Wilson like

993
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 5: she's you know, she loves Stevie Wonder. And I'm sitting there,

994
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 5: I'm going through it and I'm like, you know what,

995
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 5: I gotta do something. I feel like I got to

996
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 5: let something out. So I started working on the track

997
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 5: and I started Claudeine.

998
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 3: Right.

999
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 5: So as I'm making Claudeine and I'm you know, I

1000
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 5: come back the next day and I'm listening to it.

1001
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 5: I'm like, you know, now I can listen to it,

1002
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 5: you know, more subjectively now. So as I'm listening, I'm like,

1003
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 5: this is dope. I like this, I can do something

1004
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 5: with this, and I wanted because she always loved like

1005
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 5: strong soul singers. So Nicole Bust came the thought because

1006
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 5: she had you know, I always loved her voice from

1007
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 5: when she did the Cream Joint. So I called. I

1008
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,879
Speaker 5: didn't even have her number. I followed her on Instagram.

1009
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 5: I hit her up on Instagram and she hit me

1010
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 5: right back, so then you know, we exchanged numbers. We

1011
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 5: called each other. We talked and I said, listen, I

1012
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 5: got this track I would love to get you on.

1013
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 5: I'm gonna send it to you. She's like, yeah, send it,

1014
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 5: of course. So I sent it to her. She listened

1015
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,399
Speaker 5: to it and she's like, I love it. She said,

1016
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 5: do you mind if I do something to it? Now,

1017
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 5: That's why I said with growth. Back in the days,

1018
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 5: I'd be like, no, it's my track I'm doing. But

1019
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 5: now I'm like, nah, don't mind. Let me let me

1020
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 5: hear what you got because now I understand, well, let

1021
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,760
Speaker 5: me listen, let me hear from judge shut.

1022
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 3: It down because is key? I think, yeah it is.

1023
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 5: Because when she sent it back and it had that

1024
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 5: change in it, that that then the progression she got

1025
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 5: in it. I'm like Whoa took it to another level,

1026
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 5: took it to another level. I was like, this is

1027
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 5: what it needed. So then we talked about it, you know,

1028
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 5: and I said, the two people I think I have

1029
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 5: a mind for this track is mehing ghost So when

1030
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 5: I sent it to Ghosts, Ghosts loved it off top.

1031
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 5: But we ain't getting a chance to talk about it.

1032
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 5: But we was on the same page. I guess he

1033
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 5: felt it because he came with the verse about his

1034
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 5: mom's I was like.

1035
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,280
Speaker 3: Wow, yeah, yeah.

1036
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 5: Then me and him and then Cod got on when

1037
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 5: we got on the phone, Yeah, because.

1038
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 1: There's the whole vibe when people could really feel what

1039
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: you feel.

1040
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 4: Talk about it.

1041
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1042
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:16,399
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1043
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 5: And then when she came with the hook, and it

1044
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 5: was like one one for the lovers, two for the

1045
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 5: ones we lost because Claudine, you know, felt Black Exportation

1046
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 5: to me felt like home. It felt like that, you

1047
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 5: know what I mean. So I didn't want to be

1048
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 5: a totally sad song. And I knew Meth, you know,

1049
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 5: he's the ladies man and he's gonna come from another.

1050
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 7: And because he's an MC, he wanted to appreciate it

1051
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 7: for his you know, but he can do you know

1052
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:51,399
Speaker 7: what I mean?

1053
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 5: And he does it great, and when he heard it,

1054
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 5: he's already know what to do with it, and he

1055
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 5: did his verse right. So one is for the lovers,

1056
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 5: and that's Cordeene as the white figure, and then you

1057
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 5: get the mother figure from Ghosts and she says two

1058
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 5: is for the ones we lost. So you know, that's

1059
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 5: why the hook is like that. That's why ghoals. You know,

1060
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 5: some people I remember when it first came out, some

1061
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 5: people it's like, well, why is it this and then that?

1062
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 2: Right?

1063
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 5: But they didn't understand. It's like it's a completion of

1064
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 5: you know, of the woman Claudeen in totality.

1065
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 6: You may have said this already. Why is it called Claudeen?

1066
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 6: Where did you come up with the name for it?

1067
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:36,720
Speaker 5: Because you know it's Claudeene is from the Black Exportation movie. Gotcha?

1068
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 5: And people need to.

1069
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 1: Go back and see a lot of these old movies

1070
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: for context.

1071
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, just you know, because also they're just amazing.

1072
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 5: Yeah they are.

1073
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 2: We got it.

1074
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 3: We should have a night.

1075
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 4: Sure, maybe we should drink a forty. I don't want

1076
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 4: to do that.

1077
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 3: Can you still find those?

1078
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 4: I'm sure we can't.

1079
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 5: Look, I don't even want to do that.

1080
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 2: No, more.

1081
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 5: You can have a corona, you know what.

1082
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 4: Forty adjacent.

1083
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 3: But we get the feeling from the song. So I

1084
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 3: do appreciate that.

1085
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and imagine like something like that happens

1086
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: and you go and put yourself in your work and

1087
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 1: immerse yourself and that that's a good therapeutic thing to do.

1088
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, it felt like it was therapeutic. It was definitely

1089
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 5: is and it set it off. It set off this album,

1090
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 5: and once I created that, it was like, Okay, everything

1091
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 5: now that I'm making for this project has to be

1092
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 5: of this value. It set the bar and higher. And because,

1093
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 5: like I said, Claudine, that's why I was like, ah,

1094
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 5: it took me back to when I was growing up

1095
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 5: watching the movies. So a lot of the songs on

1096
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:50,280
Speaker 5: here are either named after Blaxplortation movies or Karate movies.

1097
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 4: I definitely thought the Karate theme you gotta well and ka.

1098
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:55,720
Speaker 3: But what about you? What have you learned from your kids?

1099
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 1: Like, what's something that you would say they've taught you

1100
00:52:58,520 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: being a dad?

1101
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 2: I mean they just taught me, you know, to just

1102
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 2: keep striving, you know. I mean my children are very innovative,

1103
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,760
Speaker 2: you know, I just wanted them to always be able

1104
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 2: to reach for their goals. You know. So they all

1105
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 2: finished school, they all worked, they got jobs, you know

1106
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So it's like me looking at a

1107
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 2: reflection of myself. I see me and all my children.

1108
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 2: I mean, and you know I got to set a triplets.

1109
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 4: Oh wow, you know what I mean.

1110
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're twenty two years old and my youngest.

1111
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 3: It's great.

1112
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 2: At a time, it was a hard job.

1113
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 4: Is a lot, yeah, yeah.

1114
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 2: Everything is about the grind, you know. And thanks to

1115
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 2: Gerba for for that year of sponsorship. Gerba, whenever you

1116
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,399
Speaker 2: have more than one one or two children, I mean

1117
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 2: two or three children, they you know, they reach out

1118
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 2: to you, ched out and they supported me for that

1119
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 2: first year they I mean, because I used to go

1120
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:14,760
Speaker 2: into the supermarket and have to take all the milk

1121
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 2: off the shelf because my seeds they didn't you know,

1122
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,760
Speaker 2: they didn't drink a whole milk and all that infantle stuff.

1123
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 2: So I had to get them rice milk.

1124
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 4: People do that now, but people weren't doing that.

1125
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,760
Speaker 2: I had to get it all of it off the shells.

1126
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 2: Vingom because you know, everything is in threes. You know

1127
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 2: how hard it is when you're getting up. You got

1128
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 2: a child and you got to heat the bottle up.

1129
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 2: I had to do three they all got up, three

1130
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 2: diapers to change everything. Everything.

1131
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 3: That is like a bootcare.

1132
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 2: It's like it's sleep didn't mean nothing to me no more.

1133
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 2: I didn't even know. It's like I had to just

1134
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 2: fall out. I had to fall out, you know. I

1135
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 2: I had a picture and in one of the magazines

1136
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 2: it could have been a double x L with my triplets.

1137
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 2: There's there's a picture in there, and I had them

1138
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 2: all in my arm and I was sleep. And that's

1139
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 2: that's how I used to have them. I used to

1140
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:13,839
Speaker 2: have to just get them.

1141
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 3: Can you imagine that kind of weightlifting us? Yeah yeah,

1142
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 3: I can't even Yeah.

1143
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just it was beautiful, man. And you

1144
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 2: know I've been there for my kids. I'm still there

1145
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 2: for them. I'm around them, you know, I take care

1146
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 2: of them. We work out together. I mean my youngest

1147
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 2: Shamar Hill, he just did a movie Brewsters Millions. Oh yeah, yeah,

1148
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 2: he's original. Yeah okay, yeah, so that came out just

1149
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 2: a few months ago. You could check him out. Shamal Hill.

1150
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 2: He has his own Instagram page and he also sings too.

1151
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,479
Speaker 2: He's singing rap. He got his little R and.

1152
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: B song, does he? Because I know some of these

1153
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: fool kids do not like people to you know, because

1154
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,720
Speaker 1: it's hard because you don't want to say this my dad,

1155
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: you know, because sometimes people look at that and they kind.

1156
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 3: Of overly critique you.

1157
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:12,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, well he's very outspoken because I messed up, and

1158
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: she'd be like, I don't want to keep it saying

1159
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 1: enough because everybody going to be like, that's that's and

1160
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 1: such his daughter.

1161
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. He's outspoken and he you know,

1162
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 2: he's been an activist since since a young boy. And

1163
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 2: you know he also is in the Food of Islam.

1164
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 2: He's marching, he with the fo while with his little

1165
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 2: suit and bowl tie. You know, if you go to

1166
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 2: this page, you'll see him over there with Farrakahan and

1167
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,720
Speaker 2: you know, just doing everything. He had his own business

1168
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 2: when he was twelve. He had so so you know,

1169
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 2: so that's what I'm saying, Like, I just I just

1170
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 2: want to want my kids to, you know, to be

1171
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 2: able to get it how they live it, you know

1172
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 2: what I mean, grinded out and just keep it releting

1173
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,399
Speaker 2: that energy man and be the best that you could

1174
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:08,240
Speaker 2: be and you know, learn to to do the best

1175
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 2: with what you have.

1176
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 5: Right that part.

1177
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 2: You ain't never got to be feeling no kind of

1178
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 2: way because you lacking in something, you know. I mean,

1179
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 2: just just do the best with what you have, man,

1180
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 2: And that's all I asked.

1181
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 5: Man.

1182
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,959
Speaker 2: I was with my son Angela the other day. He's

1183
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 2: like six' one, he's sixteen, west side thirteen. You know

1184
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 2: he's a bike rider. Yeah, a bike rider. He rides

1185
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 2: for miles from Maryland to DC. And you know, I

1186
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 2: looked at it. He had a good, nice report card.

1187
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 2: It was all eighty fives all the way down. You know,

1188
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 2: proud far me. You know what I'm saying.

1189
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: You know Jasmine's point earlier about the rice milk, Wu

1190
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 1: Tang was early on a lot of these things when

1191
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: it comes to health and nutrition that people are now

1192
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: up on. You know, when you think about it, I'll

1193
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 1: be in the office. They'd be like, we don't eat that,

1194
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: we don't eat never know, swine, that's.

1195
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 2: Not I've been a pescatarian since I came into the

1196
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:10,959
Speaker 2: thirty six chambers because you know, my brothers they didn't eat.

1197
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 2: They didn't eat me. I used to go in defgerated

1198
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 2: at the mansion and be.

1199
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 5: Like, what is morning?

1200
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 2: Start? What is this? I didn't like that stuff? And

1201
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,919
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, now it's like thirty one

1202
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 2: years I've been a pescatarian.

1203
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 4: So what's your favorite type of fish?

1204
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: I like salmon because they would flip over a table

1205
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: you had some port.

1206
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 2: Aloud, nothing would even pork in it. And speaking of health,

1207
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 2: you know, health is wealth, you know what I'm saying.

1208
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 2: And I'm also working on a project too. It's called

1209
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 2: Gardley Wealthy and Beautiful.

1210
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 3: Yes, your album's coming out.

1211
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, April seventeen. So Gardlely, Wealthy and Beautiful is

1212
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 2: about affirmations and it's about talking positive affirmations into your life.

1213
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 2: You know, it's a very eclectic album. It's not just

1214
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 2: one way to life. You know what I'm saying. Life

1215
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 2: is forever, swift and changeable, you know what I'm saying.

1216
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 2: So I'm doing a lot on it, and you know,

1217
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 2: I just I just like the sports so much that

1218
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna stop doing music. You know what I'm saying.

1219
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 2: I love to do it. I'm gonna keep doing it

1220
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 2: into something. Whether it hit or miss, it doesn't matter

1221
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 2: because I was doing it already before I got on.

1222
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 2: I never asked nobody like, Yo, what should I do

1223
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 2: or nothing like that. I just did what I did,

1224
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 2: and people gravitated towards it. So I'm still doing that.

1225
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 2: And I bought y'all a.

1226
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 5: Us B technology technology.

1227
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 2: It's a USB. Try track seventeen if you want to

1228
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 2: play that on the radio. It's radio friendly, you know

1229
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 2: what I mean. And I'm singing a little bit on that. Yeah,

1230
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 2: I'm singing. It's like I'm doing.

1231
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 5: All whatever it's in me, just coming out.

1232
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 2: Listen to it first so you can.

1233
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 3: I've always been a party guy of.

1234
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 2: That's right.

1235
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: Smiling too, I want to say.

1236
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 3: Thank you guys so much.

1237
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 1: We could have We could go on for hours and

1238
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 1: hours and next time, could we have a nice sit

1239
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 1: down because we got so many stories to tell, but

1240
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: really great ones, and so, like I said, I appreciate this.

1241
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 1: This is my introduction into who I am today. Couldn't

1242
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 1: have done it if it wasn't for Wu Tang in

1243
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 1: the beginning.

1244
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 3: Best decision I.

1245
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 1: Made was taking that job out of college. My first

1246
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: day was summer Jim when y'all got banned from Hot

1247
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 1: ninety seven.

1248
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 3: Yes, I had Actually.

1249
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 2: I was.

1250
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,439
Speaker 1: Turned over the summer of Bhutang Management on Bay Street

1251
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 1: and Staten Island and then yeah six ninety one Bay Street,

1252
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 1: I was there working for Mook and then I went

1253
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 1: back to college and they tried to talk me into

1254
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 1: It was my last year of college and they were like,

1255
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 1: don't go back to college, just come work.

1256
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 3: I was like, no, I'm gonna finish this out right

1257
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 3: because my parents was not havn't it.

1258
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: So when I graduated, for three days I attempt and

1259
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't do this anymore. I stopped

1260
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 1: by the office and when I got there, Divine was like,

1261
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 1: we was looking for you. We want to hire you.

1262
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 1: I want you to be my assistant. But it was

1263
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 1: the same day as Semmon Jam. I had on a

1264
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: business suit because I was coming from another interview at

1265
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 1: Sony Records, and I was like, you know what, I'm

1266
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: gonna take this job. And I went to Summer Jam Tanya.

1267
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: Tanya was like, come to come to Summon Jam with us.

1268
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 3: I get there.

1269
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 1: We're backstage and I'm like, we're gonna go on the

1270
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 1: audience and watch. We go on the audience and watch.

1271
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 1: A bad Boy was on first and I remember you

1272
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 1: guys were on tour. I think it was rage against

1273
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 1: the Machine tour maybe at that time. And no matter

1274
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 1: of fact, it was a different You guys were overseas

1275
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 1: and came back.

1276
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 5: Okay, and then and then we flew back to fly back.

1277
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 4: You didn't want to be there.

1278
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 5: We didn't want to a legendary day. Go ahead.

1279
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 2: Write about that too, but also.

1280
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,439
Speaker 3: Didn't want to go on. After bad Boy. Bad Boy

1281
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 3: came out, they had the baseball jerseys.

1282
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 5: It was on point. The sound was Chris.

1283
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Wu Tan came on after that.

1284
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: And when I tell you guys, tell me what happened,

1285
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 1: you know you're telling me I was.

1286
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 3: I just remember my mouth dropped up and.

1287
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 5: Like like this what I said that happened?

1288
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 4: Tell me what happened?

1289
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 5: Well, I just remember as soon as we got I

1290
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 5: just remember, right, I just remember they rushing us to

1291
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 5: the stage right right, so bad Boy is on. They

1292
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 5: killing it. They put me up with the turntables, right,

1293
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 5: So my turntable was supposed to rise up, so they

1294
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 5: got I'm there as we starting. As soon as they

1295
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 5: start rising up, only one side is rising up. The

1296
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 5: other sides like this, so the turntables just falling off

1297
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 5: the table.

1298
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 2: You ain't know that.

1299
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 5: So I'm catching them and I'm trying like yo, and

1300
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 5: Richards behind me is like your math stayed cool, not

1301
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 5: part of the show. Yeah, stay cool. So I'm like,

1302
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 5: I'm trying to stay cool. Right. What's her name? She

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Speaker 5: used to she used to work at the Apollo doing

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Speaker 5: the sounds. Well, she was there, okay, she actually assisted

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01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 5: and helped get the turntables right, Okay, somewhat. They was

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01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 5: never right. They was never right. They was always off.

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Speaker 5: And from there it was just went down here from there, Yeah,

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01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 5: it just went downhill from there.

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Speaker 1: And then so they already didn't want to be there,

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Speaker 1: so sound was horrible and then it was But I

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Speaker 1: heard Kristin Claire fuck had ninety seven.

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Speaker 4: Said that that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah goes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think fuck and he named the names of

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Speaker 1: the personalities. And then they got banned after that and

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01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 1: that band hurt. Yes, yeah, they got banned.

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Speaker 2: I was longer than that, ten years before we went

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01:03:54,440 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 2: up there. Man went up there and apologized to the lady.

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Speaker 3: So, okay, so that's what happened. You guys went up

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Speaker 3: and apologize.

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Speaker 4: But how did the apology? How did the apology go?

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Speaker 5: Here?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 2: We just you know, we went up there and met

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Speaker 2: her and we just extended our apologies to it, like

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01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 2: you know, because it wasn't personal. You know, it was

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01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 2: just the way things was going down and how hard

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01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 2: we was working on tour. But you know, we didn't

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Speaker 2: mean we didn't know what was going to really go

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01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 2: to that level. We didn't know people had enough power

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Speaker 2: to ban you because it wasn't just Hot ninety seven.

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01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 2: It was radio everywhere.

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Speaker 5: All their sister station everywhere. They shut us down. We

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Speaker 5: had no more video play. I remember the next day

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Speaker 5: because I want to hit the feedback listening to Wendy

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01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 5: Williams and she's talking about it. I think Meth called

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01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 5: up and then she was doing the countdown. She's doing

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01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 5: the countdown. Then she was like the number one song

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01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 5: of the day. She said, go figure who Tang United?

1340
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 5: And I knew. I said, yo, that's a joke. Because

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Speaker 5: after that, that was the last time I ever heard

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01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 5: us on the radio for the next I don't know

1343
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 5: how many.

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Speaker 1: Years she imagine that, but people like twenty thirteen, how

1345
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 1: much that hurts twentieth.

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01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 5: Anniversaries when when they started playing flex but they started

1347
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 5: playing us again on the radio and that was what

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01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 5: ninety seven.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was in ninety seven.

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01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 5: That's sixteen years.

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Speaker 3: That's wild.

1352
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 5: See they tried, they tried to really kill us.

1353
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 3: They tried.

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Speaker 1: You know, thank god y'all tour and everything and do

1355
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 1: all of those and had a great audience and a

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01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 1: great crossover audience, like internationally, you know, to be able

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01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 1: to tour internationally and go other places and get your

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01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 1: bags that way.

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Speaker 6: But because the average artists are group that would have

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01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 6: have been over not being not getting radio played for

1361
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 6: that long, you'll get over.

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01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be.

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01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 5: That's sixteen years.

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Speaker 1: Lord of Mercy, Well, thank you. I feel like there's

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01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 1: so much when we didn't get to but we got

1366
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 1: to do a part.

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01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:02,959
Speaker 3: Two or something.

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01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, you definitely do because because I still want to

1369
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 5: hear more on that day from your perspective, my.

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01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 1: First day, I had a kitten heels and I had

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Speaker 1: on a suit and I'm here.

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Speaker 2: I am.

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Speaker 3: They're like, come on, we're going to I was like,

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01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 3: I want to hear.

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Speaker 5: My first day, okay, rest in Peace School.

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Speaker 1: Tana was looking in the audien because we're like, come on,

1377
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 1: let's go watch the show. We get in the audience,

1378
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 1: people start leaving because I think the sound was really bad.

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01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 5: So everybody they sabotage. I thought it was sabotage, you know,

1380
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 5: you know, I felt like it was sabotage. I think,

1381
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 5: you know, because it was the Battle for New York.

1382
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was Bad Boy versus Yeah.

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01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 5: And it seemed like, you know, like they was favoring

1384
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 5: them over us. I mean, you know, we was the

1385
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 5: you know how we was.

1386
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 3: You never know what's gonna happen, more friendly.

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01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 5: They was more clean and polished, you know.

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01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 4: Feel like it's like two different genres, like almost.

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Speaker 1: I want to say, even when Mu Tang first came

1390
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 1: in the game, it was hard to get because people

1391
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 1: didn't you know, look, you got to think that you're

1392
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 1: coming off of like Rizza being Prince Rakim and Jizza

1393
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 1: being genius and you know for the ladies and Big

1394
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 1: Daddy Kane, and people were like Wou Tang, like what

1395
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 1: is you know, this is grimier than that, And people

1396
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 1: didn't understand it at first and didn't think it was

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01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 1: gonna work.

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Speaker 2: Because they both came out with girls songs.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, oh we love you Rakum and come do Me,

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01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 5: Come Do Me.

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Speaker 2: Wild.

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01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 5: You know, he didn't want to do that song. Either

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01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 5: I know he.

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01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 1: Had silky pajamas. Okay, it was not the vibes.

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01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 5: No, the video was banging.

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01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 1: Well, and then listen ice Cream was a lady song,

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01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 1: but a different type of lady song. That said it

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01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 1: all off that all right, Well, thank you guys so

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01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 1: much again, Black Sampson the Basket swords Man.

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Speaker 3: I got my a limited edition. It's only what five thousand.

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Speaker 5: Of five thousand in the US and one thousand in

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01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 5: the UK? Okay, right, And to my understand, I think

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01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 5: we pretty much sold out. So if you ain't get it,

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01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 5: I think you kind of missed.

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01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 1: Out of luck and Capadna. You have your project coming

1417
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:34,480
Speaker 1: out on the seventeenth.

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01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 2: That's right, Gardly Wealthy and beautiful. Check it out ww

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01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:40,600
Speaker 2: dot J L F E N T dot com.

1420
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 3: All right, ok thing, one more thing.

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01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 5: I mean to cut you. The album actually dropped to

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01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 5: DSP April twenty fifth, so we can we got the caps.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, way up for angela ye or as

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Speaker 1: we say.

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01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 5: Today, wou Way just got a bonus song on it too.

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01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I got my turntables at home. God is good.

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Speaker 5: A drank of forty

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Speaker 2: Well,