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Speaker 1: Hike and everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth podcast. Listen to what the Man said. Addition,

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Speaker 1: as we review what Joe Burrow told reporters at the

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Speaker 1: NFL Scouting Combine on Tuesday. For most people, it put

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Speaker 1: to rest the notion that Burrow does not want to

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Speaker 1: play for the Bengals if he selected number one overall

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Speaker 1: in the NFL Draft. But not everybody. You'll hear what

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Speaker 1: I mean. Plus, at least one NFL draft expert thinks

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Speaker 1: that Tuatungo Vloa is actually the best quarterback prospect in

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Speaker 1: this draft. You'll hear why all of that is straight ahead.

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Speaker 1: But first, here's a quick reminder that you can have

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Speaker 1: the on field drills at this year's scouting combine are

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Speaker 1: moving to prime time. Who needs to watch the new

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Speaker 1: watch the drills from four to eleven Thursday through Saturday,

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Speaker 1: then two to seven on Sunday on the NFL Network. Now,

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Speaker 1: let's get to Joe Burrow. A gigantic media throng gathered

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Speaker 1: to hear from the Heisman Trophy winning quarterback, and after

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Speaker 1: weeks of hearing speculation that he doesn't want to play

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Speaker 1: Burrow himself after somebody asked a softball question about his

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Speaker 1: dramatic improved from his junior year at LSU to his

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Speaker 1: senior year. Beat reporter Paul Dayner Junior, who covers the

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Speaker 1: everybody's mind when he asked, if the Bengals select you

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Speaker 1: for them? Yeah? I'm not going to not play. I'm

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Speaker 1: That put to rest the notion that he'll pull an

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Speaker 1: still wasn't all that enthusiastic. One question later, Joe was

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Speaker 1: asked if it would be exciting to play in his

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Speaker 1: Bengals fans. About a minute later, Joe was asked if

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Speaker 1: of course, I want to be the first pick. You know,

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Speaker 1: concerns about the organization that he hopes to discuss. You know,

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Speaker 1: So let's review Joe Burrow's comments. He will report to

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Speaker 1: what our research tells us about Joe Burrow as he's

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Speaker 1: the Arena League. By the way, Bengals dot Com editor

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Speaker 1: Jeff Hobson reports did Burrow is scheduled to meet with

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Speaker 1: Of course, it's still possible that the Banks won't select

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Speaker 1: Burrow number one overall. NFL dot Com draft analyst Bucky

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Speaker 1: the Tuah is your guy. But that's nothing negative against

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Speaker 1: how much of this stuff that they're doing at LSU

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Speaker 1: him going? But yeah, you have to ask that question,

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Speaker 1: what was the difference? What did you learn from your

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Speaker 1: junior to senior year to allow you to pop like

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Speaker 1: you did on a big stage. A couple more questions

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Speaker 1: for Bucky Brooks. The strength of this draft is it's

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Speaker 1: tough man. There are a ton of wide receivers that

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Speaker 1: are available that can make plays. But I also think

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Speaker 1: there are plenty of offensive tackles at the top of

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Speaker 1: the board that can come in and start right away.

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Speaker 1: On the defense of the ball, you have a number

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Speaker 1: of cornerbacks that I would say are B to B

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Speaker 1: don't know how many All Pro candidates you have, but

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Speaker 1: you got a lot of corner is that man middle

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Speaker 1: to the top of the third round that will be

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Speaker 1: drafted and they will make a ton of plays in

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Speaker 1: this league. If you're the Bengals after the first overall pick,

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Speaker 1: what kind of positions are you targeting? I think it

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Speaker 1: has to be about the offensive line. I think if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna make the quarterback to priority, you want to

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Speaker 1: make sure that you put a fortress in front of him.

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Speaker 1: You have good skill players are ready. You got Joe Mixing,

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Speaker 1: there's a Pro Bowl caliber back. You got Tyler Boyd,

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Speaker 1: you Green back aj Green, you got a nice one

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Speaker 1: two points on the outside. Yeah, you can get a

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Speaker 1: tight end, but if you can fix the offensive line,

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Speaker 1: you get Jonah Williams back. But if you can fix

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Speaker 1: that offensive line, but that offensive line can all people,

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Speaker 1: then I think you have an opportunity to really see

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Speaker 1: them really kind of make a quick turnaround and get

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Speaker 1: back to being a competitive end the division. Appreciate your time,

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me. That's going to do it for

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Speaker 1: this episode of the podcast. I'll be talking to more

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