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Speaker 1: Welcome to a bonus edition of the No Dunks podcast.

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Speaker 1: Time to pick our twenty twenty NBA All Star Game reserves.

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Speaker 1: Like the coaches, guys, you got a little flexibility, greater

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Speaker 1: positional flexibility when picking your seven reserves in each conference.

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Speaker 1: Though I have read that the ballot still has to

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Speaker 1: have like the two backcourt players and the three front

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Speaker 1: core players, and then you got your two wild cards.

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Speaker 1: So there are rules, but there aren't rules.

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Speaker 2: It's like a speed limit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I want to make this very clear too.

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Speaker 1: These are our picks. Okay, We're not trying to guess

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Speaker 1: who will be the fourteen reserves announced later this week

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Speaker 1: on Thursday night on TNT. These are our picks, which

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Speaker 1: hopefully we disagree on a few of them, and the starters,

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Speaker 1: as we know, locked in, so we're not like repay

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Speaker 1: picking the starters. We're fine with what they've decided on

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Speaker 1: both the fans and the players and the media. Let's

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Speaker 1: start in the Eastern Conference. Guys, we know the five starters.

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Speaker 1: Your two guards are Kemba Walker and Trey Young. Your

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Speaker 1: forwards Yiannis, Joel Embiid, Pascal Siakam. That's locked in, so

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Speaker 1: let's now pick our reserves and to make this well

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Speaker 1: a little easier to follow along because we do a

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Speaker 1: four of us here picking each separate teams in advance.

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Speaker 1: Right before jumping on here, we sort of went over

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Speaker 1: who we had in mind, and we were like, okay, oh,

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Speaker 1: we agree on him. We agree on him. We agree

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Speaker 1: on Himriy Graham. That'll make it a little easier to

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Speaker 1: follow and then we can get into, you know, our

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Speaker 1: disagreements who we think are our final couple of picks.

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Speaker 1: So in the East, we agree on these reserve locks.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations, yes, in advance.

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler all right, twenty seven, six and a half,

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Speaker 1: obviously playing great for the Miami Heat. Probably one of

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Speaker 1: the biggest surprises from the NBA season in terms of

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Speaker 1: the record. He hasn't shot the ball all that well

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Speaker 1: from the floor, you know, forty four percent from the floor,

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Speaker 1: and then really bad from three, struggling to hit the

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Speaker 1: three ball. But he gets to the line a ton

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Speaker 1: and we all had him in here. I think we've

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Speaker 1: even talked about if we didn't have that weird thing

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Speaker 1: where you had to vote for him as a forward

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Speaker 1: in the East when it came to the starters that

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Speaker 1: we would have probably had him as.

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Speaker 2: A starting guard alongside Kemba Walker.

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Speaker 4: Is that fair likely?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so no brainer that he'd be one of the

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Speaker 1: first reserves role agreeing.

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Speaker 4: On Yes, And I didn't think I would have said

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Speaker 4: that coming into the season for sure. I think this

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Speaker 4: was a sort of crossroad seasons for Jimmy coming down

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Speaker 4: there to Miami. He left Philadelphia after a very successful

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Speaker 4: half year stint there and I thought he was going

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Speaker 4: to stay in Philadelphia. He chosees instead to go to

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Speaker 4: a team which took him further out of championship contention,

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Speaker 4: I thought, in Miami. But instead he's been the most

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Speaker 4: significant factor on that Miami Heat team to be in

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Speaker 4: the position therein I think, and not just because of

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Speaker 4: the numbers, his leadership yeap, his role on that team

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Speaker 4: in the Alpha DOL Yes, and I think it really

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Speaker 4: suits the main the ro this is my It's definitely

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Speaker 4: got Miami Heat DNA and HM. I believe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like the perfect match.

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Speaker 4: It does, right, It absolutely does.

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Speaker 3: I think he does benefit a little bit though, with

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Speaker 3: their record just being what it is and people sort

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Speaker 3: of just overlooking his stats not being all that awesome

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Speaker 3: when it comes to the top twenty four players in

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Speaker 3: comparison to the when you were referencing here the best

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Speaker 3: numbers in the game, below average shooting percentages, as you mentioned,

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Speaker 3: twenty points per game is fine. It's fine. He's benefiting

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Speaker 3: from an incredible Heat culture that gets things done and

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Speaker 3: from having the biggest name on that team. And so

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Speaker 3: that's why he's become a sort of a no brainer here.

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Speaker 3: It's because they're the second seed in the Eastern Conference

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Speaker 3: and somebody has to be rewarded for it. I would

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Speaker 3: say bam Adebayo is the most important Miami Heat player

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Speaker 3: in the regular season. He does so much and we'll

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Speaker 3: get to him in a second, but.

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Speaker 5: Finished higher in the player vote. So you're not alone,

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Speaker 5: Yeah thinking of that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so too.

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Speaker 1: I think Jimmy's helped out too when it comes to

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Speaker 1: this that he's a four time All Star, all right,

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Speaker 1: I mean I always sort of forget that. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's made obviously a ton of defensive teams too, He's

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Speaker 1: a couple All NBA. Even so, he's been he's been

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Speaker 1: and has proven that he can, you know, be included

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Speaker 1: even though the numbers are dipped, the team's success and

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Speaker 1: him being the guy, it's it is.

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Speaker 2: It's a no brain.

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Speaker 3: I will say that he is his numbers of dip,

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Speaker 3: but I think he is in a bit of chill

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Speaker 3: mode until the playoffs, when I say, you know, Bam

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Speaker 3: is the most important regular season player on that team

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Speaker 3: because he does it all defensively and offensively has been great,

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Speaker 3: and we'll get to his numbers. But Jimmy, when it

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Speaker 3: comes down to crunch time, will be shooting a lot

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Speaker 3: more in the postseason and will be taking a lot

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Speaker 3: more on his shoulders rather than what he's doing here

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Speaker 3: at shooting only thirteen times a game.

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Speaker 1: Right, we will get to Bam Bam, but uh, he's

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Speaker 1: not a lock for everyone. So yeah, well we'll go

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Speaker 1: through Te. The guys we all agree on. Yes, another

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Speaker 1: forward we all agree on should be an All Star

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Speaker 1: reserve at least, you know, according to our ballots, Demonte

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Speaker 1: Sabonis the Indiana Pacers averaging eighteen point one points per game,

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Speaker 1: decent at the line.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's interesting.

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Speaker 1: We all got him in there, you know, spoiler, none

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Speaker 1: of us have Brogden in there, So this is the pacer.

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Speaker 1: We ultimately all said, Yeah, that's the representative for this season.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think he has distinguished himself from Brogden

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Speaker 5: just on the account of he's played like six hundred

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Speaker 5: more minutes than Malcolm Brogden, and that is about twenty

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Speaker 5: more games if you break it down at thirty minutes

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Speaker 5: a game, so that's significant as well. Plus, you know,

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Speaker 5: Sabonis and Brogden, they really go hand in hand the

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Speaker 5: way they work together. But I feel like Sabonis is

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Speaker 5: really the driving force of the Pacers. When they need

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Speaker 5: a bucket, he gets the ball and from there he's

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Speaker 5: making the decision of my dumping it to Brogden, is

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Speaker 5: my kicking into the corner. Am I just putting my

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Speaker 5: shoulder down and dunking on somebody left handed? He has

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Speaker 5: been impressive this year. Not dissimilar game wise to Beam

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Speaker 5: out of Bay. I think I think they actually play

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Speaker 5: quite a similar style. They're all in that Horford and

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Speaker 5: from the elbow, that sort of thing. Sabonas has been

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Speaker 5: fun to watch, made the piece res fund to watch.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, coming into this season, there was a question about

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Speaker 4: whether or not the Pacers might even consider trading him

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Speaker 4: and he's absolutely responded. He's he's always been a very

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Speaker 4: good player. It's just whether or not he and Miles

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Speaker 4: you know, unanimous answer right now that Sabonas is definitely

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Speaker 4: the player that they would keep if they choose to

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Speaker 4: move on from one of those players. But yeah, he's

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Speaker 4: added to his game, He's grown each season in the league.

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Speaker 4: He's such a tough defender too, Like he's not necessarily

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Speaker 4: a great shot locker, but he's very, very tough in

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Speaker 4: a low post that no one just bullies him out

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Speaker 4: the way like his dad. He's got that big, solid

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Speaker 4: frame there. But you know, offensively, very smart reminds me

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Speaker 4: a little of Jokim Noah and his MVP season that

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Speaker 4: he's able to facilitate that offense when needed, also go

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Speaker 4: a lot and the Pisces, you know, we probably look

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Speaker 4: at them say, well, that's a surprise. But they kind

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Speaker 4: of are always like this, you know, sort of somewhere

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Speaker 4: in that, you know, not quite the best team in

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Speaker 4: the ACE, but certainly a playoff team and one that

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Speaker 4: should be a tough outcome playoff time, especially when all

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Speaker 4: the people comes back in.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I'll just add that with Malcolm Brogden playing

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Speaker 3: you know, only thirty three or forty seven games, Trey

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Speaker 3: mentioned the minutes discrepancy between the two. It gave us

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Speaker 3: I think as a as a guy picking reserves an

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Speaker 3: easy out when looking at those two because Brogden is

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Speaker 3: a big time in clutch situations too, as is Mants Bonus.

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Speaker 3: It would be a much harder decision if they had

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Speaker 3: played an equal number of games. It just seems like

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Speaker 3: they the basketball gods are working in mysterious ways here

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Speaker 3: when it comes to the reserve picks, like they've there's answers,

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Speaker 3: there's you have a question, which pacer, there's an answer?

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Speaker 3: You know, I I don't know. I Brogden's not making him,

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Speaker 3: that's all. I feel bad for him, but I don't

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Speaker 2: Brogden is all fallen off a little bit ye.

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Speaker 5: The season went on, he was like about twenty points

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Speaker 5: a game to the first two months, and then about

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Speaker 5: fifteen points a game through the second two months, percentages

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Speaker 5: going down as well. So I think Sabonis has has

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Speaker 5: distanced himself by You're right, Test, thanks for giving us

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Speaker 5: the little minutes bump there.

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Speaker 1: I like you brought up our Vetas and just quickly

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Speaker 1: because I was thinking about this with you know, we

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Speaker 1: have sabonas making it. I think he is going to

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Speaker 1: make it. On Thursday night, He's going to be selected.

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Speaker 1: I always thought his dad maybe warranted an All Star

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Speaker 1: spot in and I thought it was like the ninety

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Speaker 1: seven to ninety eight season. His Blazers were good at

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Speaker 1: that point. They were twenty six and twenty at the break.

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Speaker 1: He was averaging I'm talking about the elder Sibonis, the

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Speaker 1: big big simonas Vetus. He was averaging sixteen, ten and

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Speaker 1: three at the All Star break as a thirty three

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Speaker 1: year old. Pretty decent numbers. But I went into it,

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Speaker 1: I was like, man, he didn't make it.

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Speaker 2: Eh.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't a lot of Western Conference spots to go around

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Speaker 1: that year. You had four Lakers, including a nineteen year

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Speaker 1: old Kobe Bryant. Yeah, and then you had two Sonics

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Speaker 1: because they were money at the break, thirty seven and ten.

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Speaker 1: It was GP and Vin Baker. And then you had

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Speaker 1: two Spurs in Duncan and Robinson. They were thirty four

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Speaker 1: the Spurs were So it was like right there, I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for the Western Commerce.

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Speaker 1: So again was gonna make it tough for a guy

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Speaker 1: a sixteen and ten Sabonis to make it, even though

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Speaker 1: the Blazers were for pretty decent at that point. So

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Speaker 1: the young Sabonis is likely going to get that All

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Speaker 1: Star spot, all right.

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Speaker 2: Another guy we agree on.

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Speaker 1: I was happy to see this Chris Middleton, Milwaukee Bucks

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Speaker 1: numbers is productivity is through the roof, His efficiency is

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Speaker 1: through the roof. He's flirting with the fifty forty ninety

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Speaker 1: shooting splits, those unbelievable shooting splits that everybody tries to

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Speaker 1: you know, hit, and few have done. He's on the

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Speaker 1: second best guy on a forty and six team right now,

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Speaker 1: they're forty and six and he's averaging you know, twenty

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Speaker 3: And I did that until this year. I did it

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it's definitely why he's overlooked a lot.

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Speaker 1: Happy to see Dan Devins show him some love in

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Speaker 1: Milwaukee's been plenty effective when Middleton is operating as the.

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Speaker 1: Well, Janna sits blitzing opponents by eleven point five points

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Lowry is very likely on Thursday gonna be going

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Speaker 2: And rack them up.

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Speaker 4: make those tough shots, those little lefty and righty sort

435
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Speaker 4: of dinkers and dumpers in there, so it's effective. And yeah,

436
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Speaker 4: I think I think there's no question he's a deserving

437
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Speaker 4: All Star.

438
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Speaker 3: He really spent in his case the last few weeks

439
00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,760
Speaker 3: with Dreel andmbidout. I find that, you know, so fascinating

440
00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,400
Speaker 3: because their best play quote unquote, their best play goes

441
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Speaker 3: off and then all of a sudden, this guy comes

442
00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:06,919
Speaker 3: to shine. If Stoel Embiid is there the entire season,

443
00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,560
Speaker 3: I wonder what the situation is. I think he's more

444
00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,600
Speaker 3: of a borderline guy, but he's been able to show

445
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Speaker 3: it on national TV over and over and over and

446
00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,199
Speaker 3: over again these last few weeks, and he is one

447
00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:17,760
Speaker 3: of the best defenders in the game. So I think

448
00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,560
Speaker 3: that influenced all the media members out there big time.

449
00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,280
Speaker 3: And he is definitely one of the better guards in

450
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Speaker 3: the game. But Joel Embiid kind of limits him a

451
00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,240
Speaker 3: little bit, and Simmon's limits Embid. It's an interesting bet.

452
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Speaker 3: But the situation with Joelanbie making the starting lineup as well,

453
00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,280
Speaker 3: it makes things. It makes things easier for the guards.

454
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Speaker 3: That's why the basketball gods are talking to us. It

455
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Speaker 3: makes it easier for all the reserves to be picked.

456
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Speaker 3: I think.

457
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Speaker 1: So that's where at least some of us stop agreeing

458
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Speaker 1: on our All Star reserve picks when it comes to

459
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Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference, at least because these final two spots.

460
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Speaker 1: It gets a little more confusing here because we sometimes

461
00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,600
Speaker 1: agree on one guy and then we sometimes agree on

462
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Speaker 1: the second guy, but maybe not all too gain. Tass

463
00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,680
Speaker 1: and I agree on the final two. So I'm gonna

464
00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:03,879
Speaker 1: go like this. I get them all out there and

465
00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,159
Speaker 1: we can talk about Tassa and I agree that the

466
00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,920
Speaker 1: final two spots in the East go to bam Adebaio

467
00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,880
Speaker 1: of the Heat and Bradley Beal. I mean, call them

468
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Speaker 1: wild cards if you want. Trey agrees with Bam, he's

469
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Speaker 1: in the mix for you. But your other guard is

470
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Speaker 1: Zach Levine obviously Beal like. And then Leley gets real

471
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Speaker 1: crazy because he's got no Bam. You've got Jalen Brown,

472
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Speaker 1: he's a little guard heavy. Here goes Jalen Brown.

473
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Speaker 2: And then you've got Beal Homer taking Bradley Beal. That's

474
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Speaker 2: your boy.

475
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Speaker 1: So yeah, we have those names in the mix, some

476
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Speaker 1: of us Bam, some of us Beal, and then Lee

477
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Speaker 1: with Jalen Brown, and Trey with Zach Levine. So let's

478
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Speaker 1: let's start with making the case for bam at a Bio.

479
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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you made it really well there,

480
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Speaker 1: tass Earlier, you said, we're talking about Jimmy Buler. You

481
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Speaker 1: think he might be the most important way, like BLI said,

482
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Speaker 1: but you're like, it actually might be Bam.

483
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Speaker 3: I think so on this team because the offense run

484
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,439
Speaker 3: through him like Sabonis in Indiana, like Trey mentioned, and

485
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:08,359
Speaker 3: nearly five assists a game for a center. Only Jokic

486
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,400
Speaker 3: tops that. I don't know what a center is anymore,

487
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 3: But does it really matter like he is. I think

488
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 3: he's their best defender, and he is very important offensively.

489
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,919
Speaker 3: When it comes to the playoffs, he'll probably decrease his

490
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:24,160
Speaker 3: importance on the offensive end, but I don't know. Watching

491
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Speaker 3: him watching their games, he is the most important guy

492
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:27,359
Speaker 3: to me.

493
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that he knew what they had on their hands,

494
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 5: so they traded Hassan Whiteside to clear a way for Bam,

495
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,399
Speaker 5: and you know it is completely paid off. He's averaging

496
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 5: eleven more minutes a game. The percentages are about the same.

497
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Speaker 5: He's scoring a little bit more, but you can see

498
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Speaker 5: that he just knows how to distribute the ball, and

499
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Speaker 5: being in his third year in the league, I guess

500
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 5: he has enough experience now that Eric sprolstro touches him,

501
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 5: trusts him to be a focal point of their offense

502
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:52,720
Speaker 5: and a focal point of their defense.

503
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Speaker 2: He's been able to do it all.

504
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Speaker 5: And you know, Greg Popovich has already said that he

505
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 5: regrets not having Bam on the Phoba team. That's crazy

506
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 5: to think that that didn't happen. He has Jimmy and

507
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 5: Bam kind of coming to the Heat and being huge

508
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,119
Speaker 5: players for them this season. They really go hand in

509
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 5: hand because they both just seem like guys who are

510
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 5: right now happy to pass the ball to their teammates

511
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 5: and get everybody else involved and then go and play

512
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 5: defense on the other end. You don't get that from

513
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 5: your superstars all the time, and the Heat have it,

514
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 5: which is why they've been great this season.

515
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the numbers are so for Bam.

516
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Speaker 1: He's averaged sixteen points per game, you know, basically ten

517
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 1: and a half boards, you said it, flirting with about

518
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 1: five assists per game. The stocks are there too, the

519
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 1: steals in the blocks, two point three, shoots well from

520
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 1: the floor, but fifty nine percent a very nice sixty

521
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 1: nine percent from the line. So yeah, I've got Bam

522
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Speaker 1: in there. I do wonder with a guy like this,

523
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Speaker 1: because we've seen it a million times before when it

524
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Speaker 1: comes to coaches making their picks, are they going to

525
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 1: be a year behind in recognizing him? But we see

526
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Speaker 1: it all the time. There's sometimes just a year slow,

527
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Speaker 1: you know, on their selections with some of these guys

528
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Speaker 1: that we think might be deserving but maybe not. I know,

529
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Speaker 1: Spolster's out there and Jimmy Butler's out there saying he's

530
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Speaker 1: an All Star this year. Make sure he's on this team.

531
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Speaker 2: But lisas no, I.

532
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,400
Speaker 3: Guess the good thing going for him in that regard though,

533
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 3: as far as being a year behind, all the guys

534
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 3: he's going up against, like the guy Lee picked and

535
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 3: Jaylen Brown, Jason Tatum haven't made it there before, right, Yeah, yeah,

536
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 3: So I think that seems like what it's going to

537
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 3: come down to.

538
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, and I think we've Well it's interesting

539
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 1: because I guess Jimmy is a forward, a technically a forward,

540
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: but he sure feels like the guard. So then it's like, well,

541
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 1: even Chris Middleton is a funny forward type of guy.

542
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 1: I in my brain think of him just as much

543
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 1: as a shooting guard, right, shooting guard, small forward, whatever,

544
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 1: slash because it's sort of pointless, so there's not many.

545
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 1: I guess my point to all that is like, there's

546
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,439
Speaker 1: not a ton of like big guys in the reserve picks.

547
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 1: It's really, I mean truly big big guys. It's like

548
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,640
Speaker 1: Sibonis and Bam and yeah, they've got to play along

549
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,679
Speaker 1: with these sort of rules with filling out their ballot

550
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,239
Speaker 1: two and three and then the wild cards. But I

551
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 1: just also think as coaches are like, well, I want

552
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Speaker 1: some guards and I want some bigs.

553
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just ties and smallly. That's right.

554
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 1: So maybe that again, that might help BAM's case, but

555
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,640
Speaker 1: maybe he will be a year behind. But why did

556
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 1: you leave him off for why do you think other

557
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 1: guys are more deservingly.

558
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 4: Well, I've been following Jalen Brown pretty closely this season.

559
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 4: He's had a fantastic.

560
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 2: Start traveling around with Yeah.

561
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, because he came into that he well, I saw

562
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 4: him in Australia in Melbourne, so we were hanging out,

563
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,120
Speaker 4: we were chatting out there, and he signed the huge

564
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 4: extension as well coming into this season, and some people

565
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,360
Speaker 4: question whether or not he was worth it. And if

566
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 4: you look at October, November, December, he really improved each

567
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 4: month to the point where he was twenty three points

568
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 4: on fifty six percent in December shooting. I mean, he

569
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 4: was just taking off. He's certainly come back to worth

570
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 4: a little bit in January. But I just think for

571
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 4: the Celtics, he is so important to that team. Him

572
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 4: and Jason Tatum. I mean you can know that's where.

573
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Speaker 1: That's where I actually struggled and ended up keeping both

574
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Speaker 1: of them off. Yeah, was in a weird way. I

575
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: couldn't decide between the two of them, but yeah, you

576
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 1: went with Brown.

577
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Speaker 4: So yeah, I just think he has had a very

578
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,360
Speaker 4: very good season overall. I think the Celtics have been

579
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 4: better as well than we thought. And he is another

580
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 4: guy that doesn't get a whole lot of recogniz But

581
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,919
Speaker 4: I think he's just a very solid player and I

582
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 4: think he's he's deserved. I mean, if you're looking at stats,

583
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 4: of course, he and Bam played different roles, so they're

584
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 4: going to have different statistical numbers there. But he's putting up,

585
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 4: you know, good numbers on the season, shooting the ball well.

586
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 4: Celtics are doing very well. I could have easily had

587
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 4: Bam in there. I wanted Bam in there, but I just,

588
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,919
Speaker 4: you know, you sort of have to pick one of

589
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 4: the guys. I just went with Jalen Brown. I think

590
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 4: it gives the Celtics too. It means the Heat miss

591
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 4: out on two, but and the Heat have the slightly

592
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 4: better record, of course, but yeah, when it's a game,

593
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 4: it doesn't really make much of a difference there. So

594
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 4: I just think I think Brown's being very very good

595
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 4: this season.

596
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Speaker 1: Okay, then let me ask you other guys, why no

597
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: Celtics as you reserve picks, because you're going Zach Lavine

598
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 1: Tree and then and then Tass and I are going

599
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: Bradley Beal and we can get into that whole thing

600
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Speaker 1: about him.

601
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 5: Being obviously on a bad team. It's a long story

602
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 5: because I had Jason Tatum in there. I think he's

603
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 5: actually clearly the All Star over Jalen Brown. He scores

604
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 5: more rebounds, more assessed, more blocks, more steals, more players more,

605
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 5: and he's arguably a better defender. His defensive like advanced

606
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 5: metrics are also higher than Jalen Brown's. I also think

607
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 5: he's the number two on the Celtics, whereas Jalen Brown

608
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 5: is probably a number three. He's kind of feasting on

609
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 5: the scraps, he's getting the open shots, he's letting guys

610
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 5: create for him, whereas Tatum is creating a lot of

611
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 5: his own shots. Sometimes they are ill advised shots, and

612
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,479
Speaker 5: you know, definitely some Kobe Mamba mentality shots. But I

613
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 5: just think Tatum is a little bit more, a little

614
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 5: bit more in the forefront for the Celtics.

615
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt. I think Tatum gets there before Jalen

616
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 3: Brown whenever that is. Jalen Brown is not the guy

617
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 3: you game plan for as the opposing coach, and I

618
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 3: think that's why he was ranked down so low in

619
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Speaker 3: terms of player rank and media rank. He's ranked thirteenth

620
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,400
Speaker 3: among backcourt in the Eastern Conference and eleventh in the media.

621
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Speaker 3: But you know, as a coach, as Brat Stevens, you

622
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 3: obviously love him on your team because he is that

623
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 3: guy who can feed off other guys when they don't

624
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 3: have it or pass to him. He can create a

625
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 3: little bit on his own. So yeah, I think that's

626
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 3: the scenario with Boston. He's a perfect third guy though,

627
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 3: as things are working pretty well there. But you know,

628
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 3: I'm sort of like in the player mentality actually for

629
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 3: picking Bradley Beal over those dudes, I'm going with players

630
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 3: who are gonna get a bucket. And I think if

631
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 3: I'm going to bank on Beal or Tatum, I'm banking

632
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 3: on Beal. And it's the year of being okay. I

633
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 3: think with picking a guy on a losing team and

634
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 3: I'm not well because Trey Young's there, and that's I

635
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 3: think that's just the sort of the the m of

636
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 3: the league right now. If you're picking the guy with

637
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 3: the worst record in the Eastern Conference, then you're okay

638
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 3: with picking a guy on the Washington Wizards that are eleventh,

639
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 3: or you're okay with Zach Levine. So I think it's

640
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 3: we're all just understanding that good players don't necessarily have

641
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 3: to be punished because their team is bad. Right, And

642
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 3: I feel is that guy and b and bals been

643
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 3: there twice as well, so he's he's he's gonna thenk

644
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 3: get it from the coaches as well.

645
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again this is not groundbreaking, great talented guys

646
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: on bad teams making the All Star Game. I said,

647
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: you know, I gave this a couple weeks ago or

648
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 1: whenever it was. Howard Beck did all the research. But

649
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: like on average, it's like there's like four or five

650
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: guys almost a year over the last decade or so

651
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: that are on losing teams. Now, I know there's a

652
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: difference between being a two games under five hundred and

653
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 1: being bodible a barrel in your conference. I get that,

654
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: but still it's a losing team. So yeah, I went

655
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: Bill simply for this. It was so close, and in

656
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: the end, I just said, I don't really care about

657
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: the record because I do feel it's all so close,

658
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: And it's not like I don't didn't feel by any

659
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: means like gotta have a second Celtic there or anything

660
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: like that. I was just like, Bradley Beal out of

661
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: these guys, these four guys to me, the Beal, Levine, Brown,

662
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: and Tatum, I think he's right now the best player

663
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: of the bunch pretty handily. So if I was building

664
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: a team at the playground, I'm gonna pick him over

665
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: these other three guys. And that's where I ultimately landed

666
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: with it. But everybody's making a fair case for all

667
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: their guys. Why Zach just because you're from Chicago.

668
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 5: No, honestly, I don't want to make a case for

669
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 5: Zach Lavine at all. My hottest take for the All

670
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 5: Star reserves this year is that there should only be

671
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 5: six reserves in both conferences because the seventh pick it's

672
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 5: not an All Star player, Like I mean, I had

673
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 5: Jason Tatum in originally because I was like, Zach Lavine

674
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 5: is not an All Star to me, But then I

675
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 5: saw that you guys all had bel in and Beal

676
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 5: is not an All Star to me either. All Right,

677
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 5: I have Leavin ahead of Beal. He's played ten more games.

678
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 5: That's three hundred more minutes. I bet you if Bradley

679
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 5: Beal played three hundred more minutes, the Wizards would have

680
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 5: a better record than the Bulls. So I think that

681
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 5: actually does matter. I think Levine has been right there

682
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 5: with Beal offensively, and Beal has been worse defensively. He's

683
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 5: just one hundred percent in chill mode. He's been one

684
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 5: of the worst defenders in the league. It's not like

685
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 5: Zach Lavine is a lockdown guy, but at least he's

686
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 5: doing some things. And the last two things the factor

687
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 5: at number one. If we put Zach Lavine in the

688
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 5: All Star Game, maybe he'll go in the dunk contest.

689
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 5: Huge number two. Two clutch free throws last night, and

690
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 5: I tweeted out, if Zach Lavine wins this game for

691
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 5: the Bulls, I'm picking him as an All Star reserve.

692
00:29:58,920 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 2: It came true.

693
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 5: Lavine is dragging the balls to the playoffs, marking and

694
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 5: is out. You'll look back at the end of the

695
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 5: season and be like, how is Zach Lavine a guy

696
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 5: who got up to the seventh seed in the Eastern Conference?

697
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 5: How is he not an All Star?

698
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 2: In Chicago?

699
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: This is this Honestly, if if we let's say, you know,

700
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Speaker 1: hypothetically have the first five ride or six right, even

701
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: when the coaches make their selections, this is fascinating to

702
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: me who they go with because of you've got Beale,

703
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: who's been there. They like to just put the guys

704
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: back into the game. But he is on a bad team.

705
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: You got Zach Lavine, who I think and sometimes in

706
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: the back of their heads go, well it is in Chicago,

707
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: and maybe even the well he said he would dunk.

708
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: It's like, so then who cares, Let's put him in there.

709
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: But then you got the young guys on the better team,

710
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: much better team than the Celtics. So it's like, I'm

711
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: ultimately excited to see what happens on Thursday. Night, like

712
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: where they end up going and how close the vote is.

713
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, Beal has been there, but he's only

714
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 4: been there twice. It's not like he's the Joe Johnson.

715
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Speaker 4: He's like thirty four and that's.

716
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Speaker 2: How you get up to number seven. Yeah, yeah, right, yeah, Brelly.

717
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Speaker 1: Beal is also averaging nearly you know, he's averaging over

718
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Speaker 1: twenty eight points.

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00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 4: Again's just no joke, and he's only sixth in scoring,

720
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 4: Like just the shows that like there's so much, so

721
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 4: many guys you know, scoring a ton this year.

722
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Speaker 1: But the wind and his team is so garbage that

723
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: you know, they are throwing doubles at him and he's

724
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: asked to do more and all that.

725
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 4: I mean, and he's still shooting forty five percent on

726
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 4: two is the only thirty one percent from three. Let's

727
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 4: see that increase. But obviously he's getting so much more

728
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 4: pressure from those other teams defenses. So yeah, it's it's

729
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 4: definitely a tough one. I agree with what Trey saying

730
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 4: is sort of you get down to this six or

731
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 4: seventh pick and you're like, well, I'm not thrilled with

732
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 4: any of these picks, to be honest, Like there's there's

733
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 4: a sort of the same cases being made for each guy.

734
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 4: So you're basically just picking your favorite out of that group, right.

735
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 5: Not true? I picked my list favorite out of this scrip.

736
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 5: How would somebody.

737
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 2: You had to?

738
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 4: You're just doing it because your tweeted better.

739
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 2: That's it?

740
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: Really?

741
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly right?

742
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 4: Follow through? That's that's actually not a bad idea. Maybe

743
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 4: we should put like a tweet takeout there and then

744
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 4: we have to, you know, back it up, follow through.

745
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, a man of your tweet. I got to respect that.

746
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 3: I'm going to watch. I want to watch Bradley Beal

747
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 3: and Aklavine split screen just defense, just see how bad

748
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 3: because zach Lavine just doesn't he just doesn't. He just

749
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 3: watch watches.

750
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 5: He tries hard, and he's in the wrong place almost

751
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 5: all the time. But at least he's running out there.

752
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 3: He's running. But is it fake?

753
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 5: He's trying harder than Bill is on defense, defense.

754
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 4: The defensive bial is No one on Washington is playing defense?

755
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 4: No one?

756
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 2: Is that a case?

757
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 4: I'm just saying.

758
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 2: It's just like the Wizards are so much worse than

759
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 2: the Bulls.

760
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 5: They've got four fewer wins because they played four fewer games.

761
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 5: Come on, these none of these guys are all stars.

762
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 5: That's why At first I was like, I can't make

763
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 5: a case for Levine, which means I can't make a

764
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 5: case for Biale, which means we got to put Tatum in.

765
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 5: But then I was like, we need a little bit

766
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 5: more variety here. We're gonna get all of our all

767
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 5: stars from seven teams.

768
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 2: That doesn't make sense.

769
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: Even Yeah, okay, well so yeah, just to go over

770
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: this quickly. Here in the East, we agreed on five

771
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons, Sibonis, Middleton, Lowry, and Butler, and then three

772
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: of us not leave. But then the other three us

773
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: had bam Adebayo and then Tass and I had Beal,

774
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: Lee had Beal, but he had Jellen Brown, And you

775
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: went with Zach Levine as your seventh even though you

776
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: don't even want a seventh guy in there.

777
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 5: That's right, Just honestly, just let Mellow and Vince be

778
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 5: the seventh guys on each side.

779
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 3: I man a big factor in my my picking Bradley

780
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 3: Beal's because we had Fred Katz on the show on Monday,

781
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 3: and he writes for the Wizards, and I like his

782
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 3: take and he likes memes.

783
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: Bradley Beal likes memes, more likely to get a good

784
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: All Star and meme from Bradley Beal, and then he'd

785
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: be happy.

786
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 3: I think that Bradley Beial won. One thing going forward

787
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 3: is he's going to get an even better shape this offseason.

788
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 3: That say's in bad shape, but the Big Panda has

789
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 3: had to do a ton being doubled all the time,

790
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 3: and he hasn't he hasn't known how that he's had.

791
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 3: He's never had to carry an offense like this before.

792
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 3: And I think his defense shows that it's a lot

793
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 3: of work carry an offense and to be a good defender.

794
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 3: So it's time to get to become a ripped panned

795
00:33:58,760 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 3: I think this offseason and.

796
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 2: I ask, are we going to do the hey what

797
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 2: about this guy?

798
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 4: Or No?

799
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 2: No, we're definitely not.

800
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: Okay, we've we've gone over some of our toughest omissions

801
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: because we've been deciding between these last couple of guys,

802
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 1: But we're not doing the hey what about this guy?

803
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 2: Okay? Good as well. I just want to make sure,

804
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 2: all right, all right, so you can.

805
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: Get hey, look, start tweeting in, start emailing it, Hey

806
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: what about this guy?

807
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 2: Why didn't you name this guy? Fine? No, No.

808
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 5: All I want to know is who is the worst

809
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 5: player you even considered for the last All Star spot

810
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 5: in the Eastern Conference.

811
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: Hmmm, well, no, I it was all these guys we've

812
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: just mentioned that are debating the two Celtics and then

813
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: Zach Lavine or Bradley Beume. That's all it came down

814
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: to me. I had no problems with the six before that.

815
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: They were no brainers. Brogden I think has dropped off,

816
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 1: you know enough that I was fine with definitely leaning

817
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: towards the Bonis and not really even having him in

818
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: the mix.

819
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 2: And that was it. I can't I'm not even throwing another.

820
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 4: Name Outwitty was you know, I looked into him, But

821
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 4: there we go, you know.

822
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 2: There we go that we always get to hat what

823
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 2: about this?

824
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I listened a couple of weeks ago, even

825
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 4: a month ago, I think he was. He was in

826
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 4: the conversation. Yeah, he got up and went to the

827
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 4: toilet and he never came back.

828
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 2: He was early.

829
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: He showed up way too early to the dinner party. Yeah,

830
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: he got a little tip and then he was like,

831
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: I'm not feeling well, I'm gonna go home.

832
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,959
Speaker 2: And then people started showing up let us just the truth.

833
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 3: The illustrious John Hollander picked Eric bloodsoe honestly, yeah.

834
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw a few people throwing his name out there.

835
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 4: The same was last season. That's right.

836
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: I was going to bat for him last season when

837
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: it was between him and Middleton, for sure. I mean

838
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: there's a case to be made for both guys. Middleton

839
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: ultimately made it. No Blood so but yeah, okay, great,

840
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: great accidental round of Hey what about this guy? I

841
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: like how we did it there. Okay, to the Western Conference.

842
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: Let's get there, guys, just go over the starters very quickly.

843
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: Your guards are Luka Doncic, James Harden. Your forwards Lebron James,

844
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 1: he's your captain, Anthony Davis and Kawhi Leonard got voted

845
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: as a starter. Western Conference locks. We agree on a

846
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: lot of them. We agree on six of the seven

847
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: Western Conference reserves. I was a little little surprised maybe

848
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: by that. So here's where you're going. Let's go through them.

849
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 2: Start with the bigs.

850
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: Why not the joker Nikola Jokic, no brainer is in there.

851
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: Basically twenty ten and six and a half over fifty

852
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 1: percent from the floor. That great from deep when he

853
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: hits those moonballs. He shoots them about thirty two percent,

854
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 1: but he hits them obviously, some big ones. And he's

855
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: been clutched this year for sure, but everybody's got him

856
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: in there. He's a big part of it. He turned

857
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: it on in twenty twenty. I mean, he's twenty four

858
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: and eleven since twenty twenty. For whatever reason, the guy

859
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: just hates November.

860
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 4: He got a white for him. He yeah, turns out

861
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 4: when he is ready, So he's he's.

862
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 2: Gotten it going.

863
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: And Zach Low pointing out just how clutch he's been

864
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: in the final, you know, five minutes of a close game,

865
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: when the scores within five, he's shooting twenty eight fifty one,

866
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: and so he's hit all these like game tying and

867
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: go ahead shots. He's been the best player on a

868
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: still good Nuggets team and he's in there once again.

869
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: How many would that be for him? That's just gonna

870
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: be a second Rudy Gobert, Well, he got him in.

871
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: Well we got him in before. I'd like to point

872
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: out when we've made our picks, but the coaches haven't.

873
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: But we all think he should be there and is

874
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: deserving once again, averaging sixteen points, per game, about fourteen

875
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,479
Speaker 1: and a half boards, two blocks. He led the league

876
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: last year in a field goal percentage, well's shooting even

877
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 1: better this year. He doesn't ad the league, but he's

878
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: shooting nearly sixty nine percent, and he's the league's probably

879
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 1: best rim protector. I don't think that's far fetched to say.

880
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: He's definitely one of the best defenders in the league.

881
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 1: And the Jazz have caught fire here too somewhat recently.

882
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: Anything to add about those joker Gobert, I was like,

883
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 1: you put it in pen, you put it in sharpie.

884
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 2: A couple of nice tallies right there.

885
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm glad to see.

886
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 2: Wow, glad to see, glad to see on my own

887
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 2: ballot too.

888
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 4: Honestly, Rudy, if he doesn't make it this year, it's

889
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 4: going to be devastating to him. I mean, and and

890
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 4: he's deserving because the Jazz start off slow, but in

891
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 4: the last month they've been absolutely rolling, and so much

892
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 4: of it, of course, is what he does on the

893
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 4: defensive end. Yeah, you know, offensively he's important too, but

894
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 4: defensively he's just a menace and such a deterrent.

895
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: Right, But his chance has helped and I know we'll

896
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: get to Mitchell, who we all have in But if

897
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: the Jazz you know, suddenly weren't you know, over thirty

898
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: wins at this point and we're a little closer to

899
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: five hundred some of that, then maybe it's more difficult

900
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: to make the case for both of them to.

901
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 2: Be in there. But we're ultimately going to do that.

902
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he can. I had trouble putting Donovan Mitchell.

903
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, well well hold on, yeah, one more forward,

904
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: one more forward. Yeah, you're right, brandon Ingram, brandon Ingram

905
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: everybody had as an All Star pick. That shocked me

906
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,280
Speaker 1: a little bit. Now he's running away with most improved.

907
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: I think we can basically give it to him now.

908
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: But he's averaging twenty five points per game, six and

909
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,280
Speaker 1: a half boards, four and a half assists.

910
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 2: Some people.

911
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: I think Howard Beck was one of them making the

912
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: case for him to start the game when they were

913
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,879
Speaker 1: doing prior to the starters being announced. But I mean,

914
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: that's a hell of a case to make. But you

915
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: got him in there. Did anybody struggle with that one?

916
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: You know, he's on a fine Pelicans team now, is ionback?

917
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

918
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 4: More than just the numbers, he's clearly grown as a

919
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 4: player and taking shots with confidence. I think being away

920
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 4: from the LA spotlight has really helped him. And you know,

921
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 4: he's come in. He started off well and he's maintained it,

922
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 4: and that little mid range game he's got is pretty effective.

923
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 4: He's also hitting that three very well, so he's still

924
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 4: got plenty of room to improve because he's such a

925
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 4: thin guy. Reminds me of Chris Bosch in his early

926
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 4: days where he just couldn't put weight on. And he

927
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 4: probably never will be a huge guy, but as his

928
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 4: body grows and matures, we'll get a little bit bigger.

929
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 4: But right now, he's just getting to his spots where

930
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,959
Speaker 4: he can get up, elevate and hit that shot that's

931
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 4: tough to contest. And I just think he's been you know,

932
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 4: the numbers back up what the eye test is seeing.

933
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 5: And the season has gone on, he's really increased his

934
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 5: playmaking a lot. I just think when you look at

935
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 5: the percentages and what he's been able to accomplish this season,

936
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 5: he's playing his game. He seems very comfortable attacking in

937
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 5: his spots, shooting mid rangers. He's not just having to

938
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 5: focus on being a perimeter player. He's mixing it up,

939
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 5: come through in the clutch a few times. He wasn't

940
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 5: sharpie for me, but he was a strong number two pencil.

941
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 2: Oh nice.

942
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: I mean, look, he's been fine from the perimeter too,

943
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 1: that's the other part. I mean, in his first three

944
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: seasons he shot thirty three percent from three, and not

945
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: a ton ton of attempts either over those three years,

946
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 1: like less than four hundred. This year's on pace to

947
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: shoot five hundred plus three pointers, and he's knocking him

948
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: down at like thirty nine point five percent right now,

949
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: nearly forty percent from three. Those are just unbelievable numbers,

950
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: like some of the elite guys from distance, when you

951
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: put up that volume and that percentage.

952
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 2: So we got him in there.

953
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Paul George opens the door for Brandon

954
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 3: Ingram to get I think this is a case of

955
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 3: a guy not playing a lot twenty six games in

956
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 3: Paul George. When you look at the Clippers record, like

957
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 3: the coaches do, I think, or it's the assistant coaches

958
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 3: whoever does the ballot forms, they look at the standings

959
00:40:55,360 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 3: and they say clip two seed, gotta have two, especially

960
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 3: because it's Paul George.

961
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 2: Three MVP finisher last year. Yeah, you're right, and.

962
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 3: His numbers are good, but they're actually not as good

963
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 3: as as Brandan Ingram in some cases. And yeah, I

964
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 3: think I think Ingram gets in over him, but you

965
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 3: never know.

966
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 4: You never know.

967
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: Okay, the three guards, then we all agree on let's

968
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: just jump to Donovan Mitchell. I said him there, so

969
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: we got two Jazz guys in this game. He's averaging

970
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 1: twenty five points per game, about four and a half boards,

971
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: similar assists right there, shooting forty six percent on the floor.

972
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: Great from three thirty six point six percent gets to

973
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: the line, and uh, you know they again, the Jazz

974
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 1: were like they were a five hundred team early December,

975
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: a little bit above their twelve and ten I think

976
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: at one point sixth in the West. And now they've

977
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: ripped off this crazy run and he got some love.

978
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: He finished sixth in the player voting, seventh in the

979
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: fan voting, and then he was well, he's tied for

980
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: fourth in the media voting, but everybody was tied for

981
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: fourth because they only voted for three guys.

982
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 2: But we like his chances.

983
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: I keep always thinking that he made it last year

984
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 1: to the real game, and I always have to catch

985
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 1: myself like, oh no, he didn't as well, so might

986
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: have that problem. Must be pretty rare to have two

987
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: first time All Stars from the same team.

988
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I'd have to go do the research on that.

989
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,959
Speaker 2: I can't happen. It can't happen all the.

990
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 3: Time, especially as reserves. That's it's gonna be tough for

991
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 3: both him and Rudy Gobert to get in. And he

992
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 3: wasn't a lock for me because the guy making the

993
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 3: plays happen a lot of the time in their pick

994
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 3: and roll situations as their point guard is Joe Ingles,

995
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,280
Speaker 3: and he deserves a ton of credit for them getting

996
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 3: up to the two seed. And I had a tough

997
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 3: time with Mitchell versus Russell Westbrook. It's tough.

998
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 4: It's watch jump with you. If you got with Ingles,

999
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 4: I'll say, yeah, let's get Joe joey en simar.

1000
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 2: Wow, that'd be well.

1001
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 3: Also, congratulations to Joe Angles were making the team.

1002
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: No, we don't have him in there, nor do nor

1003
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: do we have Hey what about this guy also on

1004
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: the Jets. But Donovich has been amazing for them this year,

1005
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: averaging twenty one point three points per game. He's been

1006
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: lights out when shooting the ball, he's like forty two

1007
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 1: from distance.

1008
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 3: They're both I don't think both Mitchell and gober Again.

1009
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: You don't think so on Thursday, I doubt Well, you're right,

1010
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: You're right, like the whole Uh, the Westbrook is the

1011
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: fascinating one.

1012
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 5: I mean, Paul George and Westbrook are both interesting cases.

1013
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 5: You know, they're not the number one guy on their

1014
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 5: team anymore. Paul George has obviously been hurt. Westbrook has

1015
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 5: been up and down. He's been playing a little bit

1016
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 5: better lately. He's taking on more responsibility. But those are

1017
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 5: both guys who have massive reps, who could easily get

1018
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 5: in on a Hey remember this guy was here last

1019
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 5: year year, just get them back.

1020
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, listen.

1021
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,919
Speaker 3: Mitchell is good for deferring to Joe Ingles. That helps

1022
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 3: their team. I think that helps them win. And I

1023
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 3: think Russell Westbrook should be doing more of that, and

1024
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 3: that would help his team and maybe his percentages and

1025
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 3: not so much as counting stats, which are awesome, but

1026
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 3: it would probably help his team overall, his team. I

1027
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 3: mean that the defenders just leave him open at the

1028
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,720
Speaker 3: three point line, which is Boker's.

1029
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: Well, the fifth and sixth guys in the Western Conference

1030
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: that we agree on. The other are both two guards.

1031
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: Damian Lillard He's the luckiest.

1032
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 2: Of locks, right yep.

1033
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: I mean that's uh the guy's he's twenty nine points

1034
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: per games, seven point seven.

1035
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 2: Assists, four point two boards.

1036
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: He's over the past two weeks, he I don't know,

1037
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: he was like turned into MJ. He turned into seven

1038
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: Kobe with the numbers that he is just straight up

1039
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: pointing up there like mind boggling.

1040
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 2: Like ridiculous.

1041
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 5: When they tweeted out his stats for a winning Player

1042
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 5: of the week and it was fifty two point seven

1043
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 5: points per game, They're like, I can.

1044
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 2: See how he took home a Player of the week that.

1045
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So he's shooting forty five from the floor,

1046
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: thirty eight from three on nearly ten to three point

1047
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 1: attempts per game, and then he's money when he gets

1048
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: to the line eighty percent. So Damian Loward again, that's

1049
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: a that's a strong lock. I actually chiseled that one

1050
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: in Oh nice, yeah, yeah yeah, well not even a

1051
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: pen uh.

1052
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 2: And the final one, this one's interesting that we all

1053
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 2: agree on. Chris Paul.

1054
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: Chris Paul with the you know what do you want

1055
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 1: to call him basically the Lowry Lake numbers. Yeah, from

1056
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 1: the point co op position, but the impact we know

1057
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: that he has in the game seventeen six and a half,

1058
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: five boards, good percentages overall. But we all think what

1059
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: his impact on OKC and the surprise season. Maybe they've

1060
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: had to some that you got to have him in there.

1061
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 4: That's why I chose him. He's been awesome for the

1062
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 4: Thunder and they've been awesome, really they have. They've exceeded expectations,

1063
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 4: and so much of it has been Chris Paul in

1064
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,959
Speaker 4: those clutch moments winning them games. They've got a great

1065
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 4: record in tight games with under five points with under

1066
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 4: five minutes to go, and so much of its Chris

1067
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,879
Speaker 4: Paul either taking the shot or setting up someone else

1068
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 4: for the shot. It's been a throwback year for him

1069
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 4: for sure, even though when three D asked him about it,

1070
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 4: he didn't know, he didn't quite understand that, or he

1071
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 4: didn't like that sort of reference. But he's been great.

1072
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 4: He's been also fun to watch, and I mean Trey

1073
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 4: loves him now, so that just shows tree Cerby, That

1074
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 4: just shows how impactful he really has been.

1075
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 5: I feel like I'm growing man. Putting two jazz into

1076
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,439
Speaker 5: the East the West Reserves, putting Cris Paul in here.

1077
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 5: Liking Chris Paul, but it feels good. The guy has

1078
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 5: been great so far this year, and I love seeing

1079
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 5: him as a tutor. Like I wish that this attitude

1080
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 5: of Chris Paul would have existed when Blake Griffin was

1081
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 5: with the Clippers. I feel like that probably would have

1082
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,399
Speaker 5: been better than just screaming at everybody all the time.

1083
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,760
Speaker 3: It's odd that this may come down to the last

1084
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 3: Western Conference spot, may come down to the guys who

1085
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 3: were traded for each other in Russell Westbrook and Chris Paul,

1086
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 3: and how different a season they're having strictly from narrative, Like,

1087
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 3: I think part of why Chris Paul's making in for

1088
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 3: us is he's a great story. He's just he's He's

1089
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 3: definitely exceeded expectations, even though his numbers are like, he

1090
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 3: scores nine points per game less than Russell Westbrook, shoots

1091
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 3: nine times less game than Russell Westbrook, just not as sexy.

1092
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 3: The numbers aren't even really Kyle Lowry, Like, I mean

1093
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,720
Speaker 3: they're even lower than that, right.

1094
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: But he's just been so clutch. Yeah, I mean, there's

1095
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: been so many games where he's just like, all right,

1096
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 1: I'll get to that spot, take that little jumper, and

1097
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 1: we'll just win the game.

1098
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,720
Speaker 3: He's taken over. He's taken over the some the media,

1099
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 3: the narrative that he gets lots of highlights and lots

1100
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 3: of stories because fourth quarter, Oh that guy. Yep.

1101
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 2: Well, trivia for you.

1102
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: If Chris Paul does make it, okay, this would be

1103
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: his tenth All Star game, and it would be his

1104
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: third team, which I think is pretty cool. He made

1105
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: it with the Hornets and of course the Clippers, and

1106
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: then he would this would be the Thunder didn't make.

1107
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 2: It with the Rockets. How many point guards though? Point guards?

1108
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 2: That's the important part here.

1109
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: Have more selections or equal to ten All Star selections?

1110
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 4: Yes, John Stark Thomas.

1111
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 2: That's correct, magic, that's correct. Not many more. Else, there's

1112
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 2: like four more. You haven't made it.

1113
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: No, no, I think he made it.

1114
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 2: Nine.

1115
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 3: Let's look here, Stephen Asht do it?

1116
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 1: No, no, no, nope. I'll give you a hint.

1117
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 3: You know he's a somebody, say Jason Kidd.

1118
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 1: Nobody did. But that's a good one. You got three left.

1119
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 1: One's a super oldie Bob Kuz.

1120
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 2: That's correct. And then you've got one. I'm surprised you

1121
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 2: didn't say.

1122
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: Uh, I nearly said his name. He's a bigger point guard,

1123
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: like Magic.

1124
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 2: A bigger point guard.

1125
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 1: I mean he's yeah, he's a point guard. He's mister

1126
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: tripple little.

1127
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna just give you that.

1128
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 3: Russell Westbrook, no Oscar.

1129
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: And a final one. You don't really consider him a

1130
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: point guard, but he was point guard. I mean he's

1131
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 1: the smallest guy on the floor, but you don't consider

1132
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: him a point well, I mean, I'm just whatever, I'm

1133
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 1: just exactly yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it.

1134
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 2: That's it.

1135
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: So not a ton if if Chris Paul makes his

1136
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 1: tenth All Star Game when it comes just like being

1137
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: just a point guard position to make it, that's a

1138
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: very very difficult all right. So yeah, let's just quickly

1139
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: go over those again, because we were thrown out a

1140
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: lot of names. But we agree on six guys in

1141
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: the west Lillard, CP three, Donovan Mitchell as the guards,

1142
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: and then Yokich, go Baar and Brandon Ingram as the forwards.

1143
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,760
Speaker 2: Whatever. So three and three there split.

1144
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: Right now, and then three of us agree on one

1145
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: guy and one swooves on us. Tass Tree and myself

1146
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,399
Speaker 1: say the seventh pick should be Devin Booker, while Lee

1147
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: says no, no, no, tomorrow, Derosen. Why don't we with you first?

1148
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: Why Derosan over Devin Booker or any other guys in

1149
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: the mix?

1150
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 4: Obviously, this one was was a tougher choice because there

1151
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 4: was a couple of guys in the mix there for

1152
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 4: that spot. I ultimately went with Derosan in part for

1153
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 4: a legacy vote. I think he's been a consistent player

1154
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 4: for so long. He's been good. He's actually shooting the

1155
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 4: ball really well. He started off slowly. Yeah, the Spurs

1156
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 4: are frustrating him because they lost to the Bulls last

1157
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 4: night and DeRozan had a free throw to could have

1158
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 4: tied it up and sent it to overtime, and he

1159
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 4: missed it.

1160
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 2: Did you tweet about it?

1161
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1162
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 2: You don't have to follow through, man.

1163
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 4: But you know, then there's the eye test, and there's

1164
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 4: the starts to come into it. And I look at

1165
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 4: Booker and I look at the Suns, and I know

1166
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 4: we book is having the usual sort of season where

1167
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 4: he puts up big numbers, he shoots, but the Sun

1168
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 4: still aren't any better.

1169
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 2: That's just incorrect.

1170
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 3: They're a game behind this.

1171
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not saying I know, but I'm saying overall,

1172
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 4: they're not any better. They're not going to make the playoffs.

1173
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 2: They won nineteen games last year.

1174
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 4: Are they gonna win thirty five? Though?

1175
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 2: This year at least they have a chance.

1176
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 4: They have a chance. But I like, I just I'm

1177
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 4: frustrated with Booker and the Suns because I just don't

1178
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 4: really see I just don't really see it translating all

1179
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 4: that much. I see Booker is the sort of god.

1180
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,720
Speaker 4: He keeps on putting up numbers, but ah, the wins.

1181
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 2: Really, how did you? How did you decide on a

1182
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 2: guy like Bradley Beal?

1183
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 4: That in the what in the East, Because I mean,

1184
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 4: it's very I've got a bias towards Bradley Beal.

1185
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 2: That's why.

1186
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 4: He keeps saying, don't worry about these not real picks.

1187
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 4: Make your picks for whatever reason. That's my reason.

1188
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, but like this is why I went I

1189
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,399
Speaker 1: went Booker. I mean, it's a it's a similar case

1190
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: to me as it is to Bill. It's like, I

1191
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: think these guys are awesome players. Yeah, they're on teams

1192
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 1: that are maybe you know, not all that amazing. Especially

1193
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: the Wizards to disappointing. But the Sun's better than they

1194
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: I know, the bar is super low, super low, better

1195
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: than they have been because you sat here, you know,

1196
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,280
Speaker 1: not maybe in this office, but obviously with the starters,

1197
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: time and time again saying no, Booker is not in

1198
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: the mix. His team's garbage. It's all empty stats like

1199
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 1: you do with Vuceovic and all that.

1200
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,280
Speaker 2: But it's not the case. It's just not the case

1201
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 2: with Vuvich. Maybe, Yeah, he's been awesome.

1202
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: He's averaged twenty seven points per game, basically six and

1203
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: a half assists, four boards, and the average good percent.

1204
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 4: Well not that twenty six point six. Well, he's averaging

1205
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 4: less assists this year, he's averaging less rebounds this year.

1206
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 3: Those percentages are up, of them.

1207
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 4: His percentages are up. But I mean.

1208
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: He's more efficient on a better team. He's added stuff

1209
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: to his game. He's basically Lebron by the way. Finishing

1210
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: at the rim, he's money finishing at the rim. It's

1211
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 1: wild when you look at it. Drives a ton and

1212
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: he finishes seventy five percent of his shots within three feet.

1213
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 4: That's crazy wound to have on your team. Derozen Booker,

1214
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 4: Booker I've had is on my favorite tab give me

1215
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 4: BA because it was in the playoffs.

1216
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 2: No, I love this, I love this, I go, I

1217
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 2: go Devin Booker. It's tough.

1218
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: I mean cause for a lot of these guys, Westbrook

1219
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: is there too, and hell, I'll play the real Homer

1220
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 1: card and get a Canadian Shay Gills Alexander gave a

1221
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: look at Yeah, but no, I go book you guys,

1222
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,240
Speaker 1: and you guys, why book tray or tasks.

1223
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 5: Well, he's played a whole season. That's the main reason

1224
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 5: that Devin Booker is making my All Star team. It

1225
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 5: came down to Paul George and Karl Anthony Towns, and

1226
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 5: both of those guys have played about half as many

1227
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 5: minutes as Devin Booker and Towns.

1228
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 2: Uh.

1229
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 5: After last night, I was like, Towns, you're getting out

1230
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 5: of my Basketball Reference Player comparison finder, exit out of

1231
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 5: that guy. Sorry, you're shooting the ball, great, you're scoring

1232
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 5: a whole bunch of points.

1233
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 2: There's a whole other side.

1234
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 5: I mean, I love guys that play all offense, no defense,

1235
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 5: but that's a little ridiculous.

1236
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 4: Last night was a very impactful not on Yeah.

1237
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,439
Speaker 2: Really perfect timing, man, this is perfect. This is why

1238
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 2: we wait right till the very second. Basically every game

1239
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 2: counts to us.

1240
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,760
Speaker 3: I think he's grown a lot as a player. Actually,

1241
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 3: he's taking better shots and that's why his percentage is

1242
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,439
Speaker 3: shooting above fifty percent. For a guard like that who

1243
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 3: takes a ton of outside shots is really really important

1244
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 3: and it's impressive to me. And uh, you know, I

1245
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,439
Speaker 3: kind of went the way of the player vote where

1246
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 3: they say, hey, who's going to get you a bucket?

1247
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 3: And d book will no matter if he's single teamed

1248
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 3: or double team like he was in the offseason, He's

1249
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 3: going to get buckets no matter what.

1250
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 4: He's not going to want double teams. In the old

1251
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 4: Star Game book, he.

1252
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 3: Was he was only voted behind Luca, James Harden and

1253
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 3: Damian Lillard by the players.

1254
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 2: Players.

1255
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,439
Speaker 1: They respect him, they understand what he's done, even early

1256
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: in his career.

1257
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 2: Is No, it's not easy.

1258
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I just used to play a walk in bucket.

1259
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 2: They know that. They get that.

1260
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 3: I just used the player list. Now that's what It's easy.

1261
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 3: It's perfect. It's perfect, just comes out and you just

1262
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 3: use it.

1263
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: He he has approved defensively too. Ye, he's gotten older

1264
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: and he's got a little bit better on the end,

1265
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: and his team isn't a laughing stock at the conference anymore.

1266
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 2: They're just not I know, they're not amazing.

1267
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, And last year after forty six games, twenty six

1268
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 5: and twenty after forty six games this year twenty and

1269
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 5: twenty six, Derosan's bringing them down.

1270
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 4: Who would you think? Who would you have more faith

1271
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 4: than make the playoffs out of those two teams?

1272
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: The Spurs, Yes, yes, I have more faith in them

1273
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 1: losing in.

1274
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 2: The first round.

1275
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 3: Four Oh yes, yeah, the Sun's just beat the Spurs.

1276
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: It is, you're right. I forget which one of you

1277
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: said it. It's the Paul George and Karl Anthony Towns having,

1278
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: you know, obviously being the players they are and putting

1279
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: up the numbers they are. If they had played more

1280
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: than basically half the season, then that and it might

1281
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,399
Speaker 1: be when it comes to coaches, but one or if

1282
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: not both.

1283
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 2: Of those guys are probably in there.

1284
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: They are, but it's at some point you gotta go,

1285
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: you haven't played enough. And it's up to you, everybody

1286
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: listening and all us here and the coaches to decide, well,

1287
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 1: what is that number? Does that really matter to you?

1288
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 1: Maybe to some people doesn't matter at all. Maybe they're like,

1289
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 1: I don't care. He's still you're trying to tell me

1290
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,959
Speaker 1: Paul George isn't when healthy one of the best twenty

1291
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 1: four best players in the league. No, you're wrong, but.

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Speaker 5: It's a it's a last thing for me. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 5: a and the wins are a last thing for me. Like,

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Speaker 5: if I'm trying to decide, I want the guy who's

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Speaker 5: at least been there twice as often so Westbrook.

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Speaker 1: And it is fascinating, I know, Low leaving him off

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Speaker 1: his team, just saying what Westbrook has done over the

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Speaker 1: last you know, fifteen games or so.

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Speaker 2: Just all a little too late.

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Speaker 1: And it doesn't help Westbrook's even in case too like

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Speaker 1: when he's really turning on here, they still this is

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Speaker 1: when they sort of struggled as well. And I think

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Speaker 1: that's fair because he did. He had such just a poor, poor,

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Speaker 1: poor start to the season, though, so did a guy

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Speaker 1: like Yokichen and we had no problem put him in here.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what will the coaches do, Yeah, PG

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Speaker 1: and Westbrook and then CP three like those obviously those

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Speaker 1: guys that are vets and have the respect.

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Speaker 2: Of everybody in the league.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna find out soon enough. That's on Thursday night.

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Speaker 1: The official ones. These aren't official, but we have a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun doing this. Let us know who you

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Speaker 1: disagree with, who you agree with? A guy we forgot

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Speaker 1: to name? Is there any hay? What about these this

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Speaker 1: guy in the west that you got to throw out there?

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Speaker 1: I mean I threw my SGA out there.

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Speaker 5: Hey what about John Moran?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Hey what about Moran Moran? Yeah, the jar dropper.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I was going to throw him in there for that

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Speaker 4: last pick to say, you know, what the hell?

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Speaker 2: But then I thought, what about Aldridge? I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 2: make a case that Aldridge is the more important Spores player.

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Speaker 4: I mean him or DeRozan. Yeah, it's like one of

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Speaker 4: the other. And I just said, you know what I

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Speaker 4: think DeRozan. I mean, for what reason you have to

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Speaker 4: pick one of them? That's why.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it wouldn't this be the first year and forever

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Speaker 3: that they wouldn't have an.

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Speaker 4: Since nineteen ninety seven? Was I didn't have a representative? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: in forty two years, there's been three seasons I haven't

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Speaker 4: had a rap, which is incredible, Like that is unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Mind boggling. Yeah, yeah, I.

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Speaker 4: Mean you just think of how hard it is, like

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Speaker 4: the Warriors won't have one that you now, obviously the

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Speaker 4: injuries have played a factor, but you think of the

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Speaker 4: Spurs over all those years, never had a moment when

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Speaker 4: it was just like, all right, someone's injured and they

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Speaker 4: can't play and the season sucks. But that's remarkable.

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Speaker 3: Trivia. Name all the Spurs all stars the last forty

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Speaker 3: two seasons.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Georgia, that's probably.

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Speaker 2: Not super hard.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, probably, Yeah, it's like one of five.

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Speaker 2: Guys, basically one of five or six guys.

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Speaker 1: All right, again, Guys tweet at us at no Dunk

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Speaker 1: saying hashtag no dunks. Email us no Dunks at the

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Speaker 1: Athletic dot com. Make your cases for guys that maybe

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Speaker 1: we left off that you think should be in there.

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Speaker 2: Just holler at us.

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Speaker 1: Always a blast. No one takes us all too seriously

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Speaker 1: in case you couldn't tell, but and serious enough that like, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to decide between guys and then you gotta

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Speaker 1: make your case. But nobody's gonna be upset with some

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Speaker 1: other guy making it over the one guy that you

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Speaker 1: wanted in there. I'll tell you that right now. But

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Speaker 1: let's hear from you and we'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 3: You could stay every day, dang you happy, every minute.

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Speaker 2: It's been so long of your

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Speaker 3: Already it's gonna be gay.