WEBVTT - A Decent Proposal 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:04.640 Hell, all right, suck Dating with Dengler and Jared Haven 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:11.119 and I heard radio podcast. Hey, We're gonna help I 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:14.840 suck at Dating? Another episode dean myself and we have 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:19.079 the wonderful Sierra Jackson joining us once again for today's podcast. 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:21.720 And we also have a very special guest who is 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:25.439 the CEO and founder of several global six and seven 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:29.560 figure businesses and brands. It is Rebecca Lynn Hope. Rebecca, 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:32.839 how are you? I am doing wonderful. How are you 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:36.440 guys doing? We are doing well. So tell us a 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:39.840 little bit about Marry Me Now, the new unscripted series. 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:44.120 So Marry Me Now. I'm the brand new host, brand 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:50.720 new show. We premier this week, um, and I am 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:57.320 coaching and guiding eight beautiful Houston women who are going 0:00:57.360 --> 0:01:03.040 to propose to their boyfriend and if they say yes, 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:08.600 they're going to get married right then? WHOA? So okay, 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:13.760 I'm guiding them through proposal, but also planning an entire wedding, 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:17.280 helping them do wedding preparation and planning in three days 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:20.440 on entire wedding. So where did that our total of 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:23.280 three days getting all of that done? How did you 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:26.640 find these couples? Because it takes a special kind of person, 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:29.399 especially in today's day and age, for the girl to 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:33.360 propose to the guy. Right. Yeah. I I am very 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:36.640 open and vocal about saying I don't believe that. I 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:43.319 believe of women, if surveyed, would say absolutely not. I 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:48.440 would never ever in a million years propose to anyone. Um. 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:54.320 So definitely a much smaller, you know, percentage I think 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:57.320 of the female population would even be willing to do this, 0:01:57.680 --> 0:02:00.440 much less do it right on National tell A Vision. 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:06.800 So yeah, casting was uh, you know, very uh. They 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:09.240 had to be very thorough and they had to really 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:11.560 reach out and put up a lot of marketing in 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:13.760 order to the women who were willing to do this 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:16.040 for well, for what it's worth. I've talked about it 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:19.000 on this podcast before. I'm totally fine with just being 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:20.720 in a partnership with my girlfriend for the rest of 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:22.840 our lives. But she wants to get married. And I 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:23.959 told her, I was like, well, if you want to 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:25.840 get married and then you can propose to me. And 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:28.280 I said it half jokingly, but she's taking it seriously. 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:30.880 So maybe maybe uh we'll be on season two of 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:34.079 this show. Well. And and that's the thing though, it's 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:37.400 like Dean so far when when we in the show 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:43.000 younger men, when presented with this whole idea, we're kind 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:46.480 of like, hey, that might be kind of cool that 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:49.080 a woman would be so into me and love me 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:52.800 so much that she would actually, you know, do this 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:58.240 huge gesture of of love and commitment and and be 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:00.520 willing to ask me to marry her. Some of them, 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:02.400 in their their response was like they would be very 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:05.119 flattered that that has a lot of the younger men 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:08.200 responded and you're you know, a lot of our older 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:11.400 traditional men that I met that were actually you know, 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:15.000 friends of the bride's family, extended friends and family of 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:18.840 the brides. You know, the older gyleman were like, oh, hell, 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:22.760 this is not right. You shouldn't be doing this. This 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:25.400 is you know, this is backwards, this is out of 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:28.679 order he supposed to be. Why isn't he proposed to 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:31.280 my sister? You know, there was one brother who was 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:34.720 really upset, like, you know, why why should you even 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:38.720 have to be doing this? M Yeah, no, I agree. Um, Sarah, 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:40.640 I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this whole concept. 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:45.480 I so me personally, I'm I'm really excited to, you know, 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:48.360 to watch this. That's it's gonna be amazing. It's gonna 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:51.440 be great. I personally me, I I don't have a 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:54.200 problem asking a man to marry me. If I want 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:56.119 to marry him and I'm ready to marry him, why 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:59.600 can't I ask? You know? So that is that's my 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:03.640 idea yet, you know for that, Um, sometimes you know, 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:06.800 sometimes men need to be guided, you know, you know, 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:09.880 and sometimes they need a little push or a little nudge. Um. 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:14.000 They don't realize what they got, you know. So um, 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:16.200 sometimes you do have to say, look, you know, like 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:18.720 I want to marry you. I I want this with 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:20.440 you and I want to life with you. Are you 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:22.240 in the are you out? Because if you're out, stop 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:25.240 wasting my time, honey. Um. So I don't know. I 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:27.839 think that I think it's it's amazing and it does, 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:30.440 Um it does give women like you know, power and 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:33.080 say and I think that, you know, I think that's 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:35.760 something you know that dates like way back, Like I 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:37.840 feel like, you know, women were moral seen as like 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:39.800 property and they were they didn't have a voice, and 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:41.240 they didn't have a right to vote, and they didn't 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:42.720 have a right to do this or that right. So 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:45.919 obviously the norm was the man asked. It's all about 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:49.440 the man when he wants it, um, how he wants it, 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:52.480 and he pulls those strings. UM. But I think that 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:55.600 as time changes, and you know, we are we are 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:59.400 no longer their property, right we are um, you know, 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:02.120 equals to them that we should be able to ask 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:04.360 to you know, But that's just me. A lot of 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:06.760 people don't agree. I see, I see. I agree with 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:08.760 where you're coming from. How Come how come it's been 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:11.839 so romanticized throughout the years. I'm curious then, because I 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:13.640 agree it's kind of like a it was like a 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:15.719 transactional thing a long time ago, and we've kind of 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:17.400 gotten away from it, and now it's become this big 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:20.200 romantic gesture. I'm just curious maybe where that transition took place. 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:24.040 You know, No, me too, I'm I'm curious too, And 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:26.560 I mean I definitely want to know, like what your 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:29.520 thoughts are about it, Rebecca, you know, on gender roles 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:32.560 and how they are outdated, and like kind of how 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:35.800 you feel about it, Like I agree. Interested see, are 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:38.039 you hit the nail on the head. We're talking about 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:43.880 thousands of years guys of you know, patriarchal the man's 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:48.200 the leader. You know, I think sometimes in two thousand 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:53.080 twenty two, it's easy for us to forget that it 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:57.679 wasn't that long ago that women really didn't have hardly 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:00.279 any rights. It was if you go back us to 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:05.119 the seventies, guys in a divorce was very new, even 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:08.520 the concept of getting divorced. And in divorces, women would 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:10.680 lose all rights to their children. They would give the 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:13.360 children to the men because they were considered to be 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:16.240 because they were breadwinners, and women didn't have a lot 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:19.560 of money, right they the kids would automatically go to 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:21.800 the husband's We're talking about the right to vote, the 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:24.279 right to work, the right to make money, the right 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:28.240 I mean, all of this stuff is I mean, considering history, 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:31.120 this is all very new. It doesn't feel new to 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:34.440 us in this you know, current last two generations right here, 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:38.680 but it is very new and and so too. Really 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:41.159 turn it around, and for women to be proposing is 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:46.360 really turning the whole concept of traditional gender roles on 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:51.200 its head, right. And I love what Sierra is saying 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:55.400 because what I saw in the show, we predominantly our 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:57.920 brides were twenty five to thirty five or young women 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:01.360 from Houston right, and and the are empowered women. I 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:05.279 said it throughout every episode in the show that this 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:08.520 takes a bold woman, This takes a confident woman, This 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:12.840 takes a very empowered, almost more like boss chick type 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:17.280 of young woman, right, because the traditional stuff and all 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:19.240 of that, you're just gonna throw that out the window. 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:22.120 Anybody who is really still stuck on that is you know, 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:25.280 never going to do this. So that is really who 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:28.000 the show is really showcasing. It's just a really a 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:31.559 lot of bold, confident young women who are saying and guys, 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:33.640 it's not even people who have been together for like, 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:35.920 you know, tons and tons of years. We had couples 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:38.640 that have been together like a year, all with up 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:42.280 to seven plus years, and you know those seven plus years, 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:44.800 they're kind of like like, wait a minute, what are 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:48.040 we doing. It's time to you know, it should get 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:51.880 off the pot, right like, But in those couples that 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:54.600 were like a year, it's more like she's in love, 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:58.200 she's met what she considers to be the one that 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:00.880 he's just you know, a maze using to her, and 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:05.160 she's ready to do this. Yeah. I'm exciting to watch too, 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:08.320 because as much of a of a statement it is 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:11.440 that they're making to propose to their men. Uh two, 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:14.400 then put that on television as well as a whole 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:16.120 new dynamic of it, you know, because it's not something 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:17.800 that we're used to seeing on TV. So you're opening 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:19.880 yourself up to a lot of scrutiny and criticism for it. 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:22.400 So uh definitely takes a lot of courage to do 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:24.600 what they're doing. I really respect that, a lot of courage, 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:27.440 and especially because the only per you know, the only 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:29.880 visuals we've had of women proposing. I don't know about 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:31.400 you guys, you can correct me if I'm wrong, but 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:34.400 the only time I've seen this is like these viral 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:38.599 cringe e video clips on Instagram, you know, where a 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:41.240 woman's getting down on one knee or something and poet 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:45.840 and he's like walking away and you're like, don't do it, 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:50.080 you know, like it's like so embarrassed for her. And 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:52.440 so this, this is, you know, quite different, because these 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:55.720 are very real relationships. These some of these couples have 0:08:55.880 --> 0:09:00.480 children together. I mean, these are very real women, real 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:05.920 relationships where I think the women's timeline is saying, let's 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:09.280 do this and let's see what the man's gonna do. 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:21.880 What's the format of the show going to be, Like, 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:24.720 is each episode going to be focusing on a different couple? 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:29.440 One couple of her episode to eight couples? Okay? And 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:31.400 then do we get to follow them around like post 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:33.560 and pre marriage and all that stuff or what like 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:36.679 what do we got to see? The entire episode is 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:39.920 literally when I say, we are hitting the ground running 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:44.079 because we've got three days to plan proposal and complete wedding. 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:46.920 So they're meeting me as their life and love coach. 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:51.120 That's the introduction, and then I'm getting in. I start 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:53.800 digging because I want to know, you know, the truth 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:57.439 behind the relationship, what's really going on, what issues maybe there? 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:00.319 Why is she doing this right? We you gotta be 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:03.719 able to understand what is the reason for why you're 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:06.640 doing this? And so each episode is literally walking us 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:10.280 through that coaching process and then up to proposal, which 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:14.319 by the way, is in her wedding dress. She's proposing 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:17.280 in her wedding dress. And then if he says yes, 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:20.000 we went, we go right into a beautiful wedding with 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:23.280 vowels and everything. And how quickly, how quickly into meeting 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:25.520 these couples, can you tell whether or not it's gonna 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:32.080 work out. Guys. I'm gonna be honest. Um, some of 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:36.000 these couples really through me. Um the some of them 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:39.160 that I would I was lying my girlfriend, are you 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:43.800 sure you want to do this? Like I'm nervous forward 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:47.640 you right, Like I don't based on just the facts. 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:51.120 I don't see how we came to this decision to 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:56.000 do this. And then you know, the man is absolutely 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:58.200 in love with her and and he's just head over 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:01.080 heels excited when she proposed this, and they're off to 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:05.320 get married, and I'm sitting there like, Okay, I guess 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:11.560 this it worked, you know, so I gave up trying 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:16.720 to judge one way or the other. I would get 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:21.000 these very strong feelings of you know, this is definitely 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:22.800 a yes. Oh my god, they're so in love and 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:25.280 I love her family and his family and it's just 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:28.480 an amazing dynamic and the families love each other, and 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:34.520 and then it was a no, m devastation. Do you 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:37.400 think there's any coming back from a rejected proposal, like 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:39.720 let's say you asked it to marry you and then 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:41.319 they say no. Is there any coming back from that? 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:43.400 Or is that like the end of the relationship? Attently. 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:47.040 I think it depends on the woman. I think it. 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:50.679 You know, personality types play into this a lot. Being 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:54.600 you know, some people are fiery and angry, and you know, 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:58.400 it's you can piss someone off and she's feisty, and 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:02.000 you know, and it's like you don't get another chance. Um. 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:06.560 In my observations from the couples, I'll say, I think 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:10.560 it depends a lot on the explanations for why it 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:14.920 maybe you know, right, like what is it real? Is 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:16.960 it you know that we really need to take more 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:20.560 time we have been together long enough? Or or is 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:24.560 it he's making up some lame excuses and is you 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:27.480 know really never has any intention of really marrying her? 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:31.439 And you know, and I think that in this situation, 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:35.280 when you do something this big, it you don't have 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:39.480 a choice but to face the reality of whatever that 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:43.040 answer is. Right. You know how in relationships we can 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:45.640 kind of put our head in the sand, and women 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:47.880 can kind of oh, you know, she's in our inner 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:51.280 head with the fairy tale and you know, and and it's, oh, 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:53.840 you know, one day he's going to propose and we're 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:56.720 in love, and she might be ignoring a bazillion red 0:12:56.720 --> 0:12:59.400 flags that it's it's not what you know, she wants 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:01.600 it to do your thing. It is. But I think 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:04.480 in with this show, in that moment, there's just no denying. 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:09.320 This is a definitive yes or no. And you know 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:12.400 it's some and some of the guys, like with the nose, 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:15.760 I was just sitting there like that was the lamest, 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:19.760 Like I can't even you couldn't do better than that. 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:22.680 Like I also don't know how someone will be able 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:25.160 to come back from a no on the show, because 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:29.040 you know, you have as a woman going out on 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:32.680 such a limb and proposing specifically on national TV, but 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:35.120 just even proposing in general and kind of like we 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:38.240 talked about, flipping those social norms upside down, and then 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:41.520 to have the guy say no, I think as the 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:44.720 woman who's taking his chance or proposing to a man, 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:48.080 that's a tough one to come back from. The crazy. 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:50.280 The crazy thing to me too, is is the proposal 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:51.800 is one thing, but then you guys go straight into 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:56.480 the wedding. That's crazy. A lot of pressures here, even 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:59.079 just at the top of this podcast was saying, oh, 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:01.280 engagements can be broken, and they certainly can be, but 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:02.640 not if you go right into the marriage you know, 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:08.320 you have off So this is my it's my question 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:11.720 for you, Rebucca. What are the men you know getting 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:14.600 getting asked off guard? You know, what are they what 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:16.480 do they think is going on? Like? How are they? 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:20.160 You know, how are they unaware of what's happening? You know, um, 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:22.400 you know, this is their partner and typically you know 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:24.160 what your partner is doing or what your partners up 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:26.040 to or their schedules. Right, and all of a sudden, 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:29.680 your partners like, you know, weird, you know, and do 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:32.080 they do they suspect something's happening? I mean kind of 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:35.600 what you know, how are they getting this surprise? So 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:38.080 one of the things that Owned did a really great 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:41.480 job of this is really kind of plotting out exactly 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:44.800 how this would be orchestrated in a way for him 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:48.400 to not be aware of what was coming. And the 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:51.600 first step is that I never meet the men. I 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:54.600 never meet the boyfriends because they're they're very much aware, 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:58.280 you know, ongoing we have a hit show. They would 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:01.240 know my face immediately like, oh my god, that that's 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:04.240 that lady from that show. So I never meet the men. 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:11.800 And then each episode there is a show ruse, there's 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:15.760 if if the bride. If if our lady is a realtor, 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:20.360 she's pretending she's on a reality real estate, Hot real 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:24.400 Estate in Houston, right if he thinks he's supporting her 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:27.920 and her Houston Hot real estate show. And so they 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:29.920 do these interviews together and it's more about like, oh, 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:32.080 we're gonna buy a house or the real estate market 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:34.280 and things like that, and he just thinks he's on 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:38.000 camera to support her, you know, or whatever the show 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:41.600 is about that makes sense for the couple. So each 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:44.400 show is different. One one couple had they were going 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:47.360 on a fix her Upper show to remond give him 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:49.640 a man cave in the house or something. So he 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:51.800 was like so excited because I'm gonna get a man 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:55.440 cave and she she ends up proposing, And the first 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:57.320 thing he said after bose I was like, well, am 0:15:57.360 --> 0:16:00.080 I still getting my man cave? Like She's like, I 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:03.720 wasn't even anything, you know real. So yeah, they do 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:05.720 a really great job with the ear of like really 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:09.000 keeping him in the dark about what's going on up 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:12.000 to that very moment where she is walking up to 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:14.360 him in her wedding dress and going to propose, and 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:19.120 he turns around and sees her. Okay, Okay, I've got 0:16:19.160 --> 0:16:21.640 a question for you. So for our listeners, um out 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:23.960 there for for your reference, I guess, Rebecca, a lot 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:27.160 of our listeners I would say majority of them are women. Um. 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:30.160 Let's say someone is in a relationship now, their partners 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:32.520 dragging their feet when it comes to a proposal. Uh. 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:34.320 And and maybe one of the girls is thinking about 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:36.440 proposing to their boyfriend. What kind of advice would you 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:40.080 have for someone in that situation. I think there's really 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:45.320 great signs if a man is really thinking long term 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:48.720 and is looking at you like he wants to marry you, 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:51.160 he wants you to be his wife one day, There's 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:55.000 gonna be lots of conversations about your combined future together. 0:16:55.120 --> 0:17:00.720 There's going to be conversations about children, you know, finances, whatever, 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:04.879 the future goals, business goals, where you want to live. 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:08.080 There's going to be lots of conversation around this because, 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:11.840 you know, getting married just such a huge decision, especially 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:13.800 for men. Right, So, if if this is on a 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:18.200 man's mind, he's going to be talking about things that, 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:21.280 even if he doesn't mention the word marriage, he's talking 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:25.080 about the two of you in your combined future in 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:28.240 big plans, not like what we're doing next Tuesday for 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:30.840 date night, but like, oh yeah, by the way, honey, 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:32.719 my four old one kid is doing this, or like, 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:35.320 you know, just the different things that go along with 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:39.560 very serious the issues of life, right, the real stuff. Um, 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:42.320 and so if he is not having any of those 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:48.000 types of conversations, I mean, Dean, I don't encourage any 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:53.320 woman to think about proposing without having some conversations to 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:56.639 even know if you're on the same page, right, Like 0:17:57.200 --> 0:17:59.720 it only to me it only makes sense if you're 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:01.760 going to think about marrying when you have to have 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:07.400 really great communication. That's number one. With great communication comes sharing, 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:12.000 right and and just talking about your heart's desires, your 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:17.240 your plans. I mean, so I think that mature couples 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:20.760 for sure should be having these conversations about, you know, 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:24.000 what they're expecting, what they want. I don't think that 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:28.439 any woman should just be proposing out of the blue, 0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:32.639 and you know, you haven't even had those type of 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:36.080 real conversations with him to even know that that that's 0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:49.359 where he's at and that's what he wants. Jared, what 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:51.760 do you think do you think it would ever would 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:53.600 have been a possibility for asking you to propose to 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:55.040 you or do you think it was always destined for 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:58.439 you to ask the question to her? She's so the 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:01.399 problem is and Rebecca, I'm sure this is an issue 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:03.000 that you face as well as I feel like a 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:05.520 lot of women don't want to propose. They want to 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:08.080 wait until their man proposes to them, and that was 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:11.840 something that Ashley would be in agreeing with. She would 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:15.560 she would have waited till I proposed, because that's just 0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:19.160 what she wanted. She always wanted to be proposed to. Um, 0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:22.960 It's part of the dream exactly. So there's yeah, there's 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:24.800 no way Ashley would have proposed to me. She would 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:26.720 have waitted. She would have killed me if I didn't 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:30.680 propose to her. Alright, that's reasonable. I mean I I 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:32.479 could see it going both ways, you know. I I 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:35.200 agree with the idea of like it's kind of ingrained 0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:37.960 in our heads since at a very young age to 0:19:38.400 --> 0:19:40.119 you know, like the guy proposes to the girl and 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:41.280 you get married and you have kids and you move 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:43.520 in the house, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. But I always think 0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:45.879 it's so cool when you hear stories about like just 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:48.000 like on I mean, granted, you guys have a very 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:50.360 unique story. Obviously you proposed to actually on a beach 0:19:50.359 --> 0:19:52.760 in Mexico in front of you know, millions of people. Um, 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:54.760 I just I love the unique stories, you know, So like, 0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:56.160 I'm sure that we're gonna see a lot of great 0:19:56.160 --> 0:19:58.760 marriages out of this show that we're about to see Rebecca. 0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:00.600 That's I feel like them being able to tell their 0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:02.720 children like, yeah, your mom proposed to me. I think 0:20:02.800 --> 0:20:04.000 is that it's a really cool thing to be able 0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:05.800 to say, well, you know, we're back. I wanted to 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:08.440 ask you before you go to do you think that 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:12.760 this will ever become a staple in our society that 0:20:12.800 --> 0:20:15.280 will change where when we're more women do propose or 0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:17.400 do you think it's gonna be still what it is now, 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:21.320 which is very rare? And then furthermore, do you ever 0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:27.520 see the constructive marriage changing as society evolves? Guys, I've 0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:30.440 said it for several years and people women especially get 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:33.880 really upset when I say this, But if things continue 0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:37.359 to trend the way it's going, I don't believe that 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:44.760 we will see marriage as a predominant principal moral you know, 0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:50.160 outlook expectation goal in fifty years. I mean, if things 0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:52.720 keep going the way the way they're going, And there's 0:20:52.760 --> 0:20:59.960 just no denying that millennials are leaning away from mayor 0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:06.120 Ridge more towards life partnerships. Um, there's this new thing. 0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:11.320 Have you heard of this about partner Uh not partner proposals, 0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:15.800 but it's like a ceremony, partner ceremonies that are not No, 0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:19.360 I have you heard of this? Yes, I know exactly 0:21:19.400 --> 0:21:22.280 what you're talking about. When people are basically agreeing to 0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:24.840 basically be partners for life a wedding, but without the 0:21:24.920 --> 0:21:31.639 legalities of a wedding and being married. This is and 0:21:31.720 --> 0:21:34.160 you know, it's so, this is I mean, I'm about 0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:36.200 to be a grandma. You know, I'm older, you know, 0:21:36.600 --> 0:21:39.200 of course, I'm coming from being more traditional, got married 0:21:39.240 --> 0:21:42.680 really young, had my kids young, you know, um, three 0:21:42.680 --> 0:21:45.679 grown sons, you know, And I talked to my sons. 0:21:45.720 --> 0:21:49.640 My oldest is twenty eight. He definitely still believes in marriage, 0:21:49.720 --> 0:21:54.480 but he is he's not moving fast in that direction. 0:21:54.720 --> 0:21:58.320 It's I think we're going to continue to see young 0:21:58.480 --> 0:22:02.760 people either not getting married or waiting a lot longer 0:22:03.200 --> 0:22:07.200 before they do get married. It's called the commitment ceremony. 0:22:07.400 --> 0:22:10.399 There we go commitment ceremony. I just heard about that 0:22:10.520 --> 0:22:14.000 the other day, and I was like, more of this trend, right, 0:22:14.080 --> 0:22:16.960