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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome back to another episode of What in
Speaker 1: the Winkler with another guest, a regular Henry Winkler.
Speaker 2: Hi, Hi Dad, I'm so happy to be here, so.
Speaker 1: Happy you're here. Thank you for saving me. Mom is
Speaker 1: still out of town and you're my guy.
Speaker 2: Hey.
Speaker 1: Hey, yeah, I know you have a lot of things
Speaker 1: to do, and I'm really grateful that you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but this is fine to do this thing. This
Speaker 2: is fun.
Speaker 1: It is fun. I like just talking to you. And
Speaker 1: also what's so incredible about this opportunity is that I'm
Speaker 1: going to have these memories for the rest of my
Speaker 1: life on tape with you and with Mom, which is
Speaker 1: such a beautiful thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, truly. Yeah, I'm very proud of you that this
Speaker 2: exists and you're so good at it.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm proud of you because without you, baby, it
Speaker 1: wouldn't Oh, it's a real wow. Just remember that we
Speaker 1: both we both we both gave.
Speaker 2: We gave gave at the office.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I think this week what I really was
Speaker 1: thinking about and what I've been thinking about is the
Speaker 1: holiday season, because I cannot believe we're already at that time.
Speaker 2: It goes so fast, and the older you get, the
Speaker 2: faster it goes.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm getting there. I mean I'm forty four. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm getting up there.
Speaker 2: I'm forty nine. That's You're amazing, Yeah you are.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. I can't believe, Like, would this week called
Speaker 1: mid forties.
Speaker 2: Your mid forties? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Jesus. Okay, So anyways, what I wanted to talk about
Speaker 1: was specifically we talked about this. I think like when
Speaker 1: the first time you were on the episode was this
Speaker 1: week is Thanksgiving, right, And I am so excited because
Speaker 1: tomorrow actually we do stuffing day here, right, which is
Speaker 1: my favorite day of the year.
Speaker 2: You know what, It reminds me of the pioneer days.
Speaker 2: All of the women in the family and friends are
Speaker 2: so boys, so boys, your sons, but all of the
Speaker 2: women in the family and their friends and your sons
Speaker 2: come and in our kitchen make stuffing.
Speaker 1: That's right, And it's Nanna's recipe, right, it's my mom's
Speaker 1: mom's recipe, right, and.
Speaker 2: My with and without sausage, within without sausage.
Speaker 1: So we do one with sausage, one without one vegetarian.
Speaker 2: But smell in the house is to die.
Speaker 1: For but that that day is one of our main
Speaker 1: traditions that I can for as long as I can remember.
Speaker 1: And Thanksgiving is my very very very favorite holiday me too.
Speaker 1: And I love the food. But I also think it's
Speaker 1: the coziest holiday mm hmm, because like it gets a
Speaker 1: little bit cooler. I mean we are in Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: so it's not freezing, but usually it gets cooler. And
Speaker 1: the colors, the colors, and it's family, it's all. It's
Speaker 1: the whole family together, eased.
Speaker 2: To have in our backyard, stragglers who didn't have a
Speaker 2: place to go. Family. So there ended up to be
Speaker 2: fifty or sixty people at a at a circular or
Speaker 2: at a you shaped table, and then everybody got a
Speaker 2: chance to say what it is they were grateful for
Speaker 2: at that moment in that year.
Speaker 1: And do you remember, and I remember, you would put
Speaker 1: our artwork all over the time.
Speaker 2: I loved it. I saved every bit of your artwork,
Speaker 2: thinking the kids will love to show their kids idea
Speaker 2: their artwork. Nothing it's in boxing, I take it you.
Speaker 1: First of all, you've dropped off every box at my home.
Speaker 1: I have a much smaller home than you, so it
Speaker 1: is not as easy to house, all of that, but
Speaker 1: I have You've dropped it all of the my house,
Speaker 1: and I save all of it and I love it,
Speaker 1: and I save my kids stuff. Oh yeah, but that
Speaker 1: to me, Thanksgiving here is just like the best holiday
Speaker 1: ever and it's still to this day, seventy five people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and and delicious. I mean it really does taste
Speaker 2: like you dream Thanksgiving detection.
Speaker 1: I think so too.
Speaker 2: But I did love putting all three of your artworks
Speaker 2: on the table, and that was the decoration.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. I mean, I remember there's a home
Speaker 1: and you also took home videos of every single thing,
Speaker 1: so you would take you took a home video. I
Speaker 1: don't remember where it is. We have to find it somewhere.
Speaker 1: We'll find it. Yeah. Of me sharing with the entire
Speaker 1: table for way too long, going on for way too long.
Speaker 1: Someone should have cut me off about my artwork at
Speaker 1: the table, and I loved going around and saying what
Speaker 1: we were thankful for.
Speaker 2: You were always a good talker, I.
Speaker 1: Really, I agree. And then this year I'm with my
Speaker 1: husband's family, which I also love, and it's right up
Speaker 1: the street.
Speaker 2: Right and only right that you should switch off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we switch off every year, but this year actually,
Speaker 1: Ace is going to cook the mac and cheese and
Speaker 1: the mashpapers.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about Ace. He I'm going to be thirteen
Speaker 2: and just a month or two one month. He is
Speaker 2: in his soul a chef he is. He loves food.
Speaker 2: He knows how to make food. When you take a
Speaker 2: picture of him cooking, he looks like all of those
Speaker 2: chefs you see in magazines.
Speaker 1: He loves it and he's thirteen. Such a passion for it.
Speaker 1: And I was looking through all these videos, like all
Speaker 1: the videos on my phone because I'm getting ready to
Speaker 1: have a big celebration for him, and we're going to
Speaker 1: show a video and it goes back his cooking videos
Speaker 1: go back to when he was five.
Speaker 2: Years old, when we babysat for the three boys. Ace
Speaker 2: woke up, came to my side of the bed and said,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm up breakfast. I said, okay, what would
Speaker 2: you like for breakfast? He said pancakes. I said, I
Speaker 2: am so sorry, I don't know how to make pancakes. Really,
Speaker 2: he said, don't worry, and naked, he walked through the house,
Speaker 2: took the little stool at his sink so that he
Speaker 2: could reach up and brush his teeth, dragged it across
Speaker 2: the house to the stove, lit the stove and made
Speaker 2: chocolate chip pancakes that were unbelievable.
Speaker 1: It's so cute because he spends the night now at
Speaker 1: his best friend River. He spends the night there, and
Speaker 1: the mom sent me a picture the other day of
Speaker 1: Ace making breakfast for everybody, And then at Zoo's house,
Speaker 1: same thing showed us, like, you know, lauren'sent. My friend
Speaker 1: Lauren sent me a picture of him making breakfast the
Speaker 1: next morning. It's such an amazing skill, honestly, because he
Speaker 1: also loves sports, and he loves music, and he loves
Speaker 1: so many things. But you can just see that this
Speaker 1: is his.
Speaker 2: But one day, two years ago, let's say he was here.
Speaker 2: He came I picked him up at school and we
Speaker 2: came here instead of going right home. And he was hungry,
Speaker 2: and he went into the pantry and he found ramen
Speaker 2: noodles and he made Ramen noodles. And then he went
Speaker 2: about making the ramen noodles tasty, and he would add stuff.
Speaker 2: He would say, no, you know what it needs a
Speaker 2: and then he would find whatever I thought it needed.
Speaker 2: He would add that to the mix until he said
Speaker 2: they're ready, and they were delicious. They were They were delicious.
Speaker 2: It's not like he just likes it. He lives it,
Speaker 2: He imagines food.
Speaker 1: He does well. Just like our family has a big Thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: so do the rhinuses. Yeah, that's like again, I think
Speaker 1: it's like forty seven people, right, And so Ace is
Speaker 1: in charge and we're all helping, and Ace is in
Speaker 1: charge of I'm going to do the stuffing here on
Speaker 1: the stuffing day, and Ace is going to make the
Speaker 1: mac and cheese and the mashed potatoes for the entire dinner,
Speaker 1: which I think is really exciting. And he's excited. I'm excited.
Speaker 1: I'm not excited for the way my kitchen's going to look.
Speaker 1: Will deal, Yeah, isn't He hasn't mastered the cleaning up part.
Speaker 2: Well, you know what that that happens usually at about
Speaker 2: thirty two, Yeah, thirty two, all of a sudden something
Speaker 2: kicks in and goes I probably should hang up my clothes.
Speaker 1: But one thing about me is that I am insane
Speaker 1: about cleanliness.
Speaker 2: Not when you lived here, but as soon as you
Speaker 2: moved into.
Speaker 1: Your own adult which which tracks I was then obsessed
Speaker 1: with cleanliness.
Speaker 2: And how old were you when you finally moved out
Speaker 2: of your dad.
Speaker 1: I don't really feel like that's a necessary conversation.
Speaker 2: Oh, I say, well, okay, so I know, okay, But
Speaker 2: I want to say.
Speaker 1: I went to college in Wisconsin. I came home after
Speaker 1: two years. I really I wanted to be home. I
Speaker 1: had a boyfriend. I missed home. Right, you should have
Speaker 1: never let me come home by the way, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: So then I came home.
Speaker 2: Then what now you tell me we should never have
Speaker 2: led you come home.
Speaker 1: Then I went to Lila Marry Matt Universe classes?
Speaker 2: Did you take a year been for this?
Speaker 1: This was in our first episode?
Speaker 2: It was no, I wasn't.
Speaker 1: I'm not a great second episode, I'm not great in
Speaker 1: school anyways. I then moved out into an apartment my
Speaker 1: roommate sticking and screening, you know, the first the first
Speaker 1: one I liked the first apartment. My roommate went to rehab.
Speaker 1: I had to come up. Then I came home because
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be in that apartment by myself.
Speaker 2: I came home.
Speaker 1: Then I loved being home, which is such a beautiful thing.
Speaker 2: Nice it was.
Speaker 1: And you mom said like, this is not okay? And
Speaker 1: I my room is right next to your room, Yes
Speaker 1: it is. And your TV is right against the true
Speaker 1: of my bed.
Speaker 2: We do listen to the TV.
Speaker 1: You guys are fucking deaf, and you listen to it
Speaker 1: so loud at all hours of the night. At all
Speaker 1: hours of the night.
Speaker 2: Mom insists that the TV stay on so when she
Speaker 2: wakes up she doesn't have to figure out the changer.
Speaker 1: Right, So every night I would be like, turn it down,
Speaker 1: and you'd be like, get your own apartment right now.
Speaker 2: Max stays here sometimes with his wife Jesse and their babe,
Speaker 2: and he too comes in and said, could you turn
Speaker 2: it's wild?
Speaker 1: It's actually wild, but.
Speaker 2: We know that this is here. Here's a great thing
Speaker 2: about it. No, Mom, and I can actually hear what's
Speaker 2: on the TV. That's great.
Speaker 1: I love that. But I was thinking, thank you, you
Speaker 1: should have gotten like earphones to just like watch and
Speaker 1: hear so that I wasn't kept awake.
Speaker 2: That would have been thoughtful.
Speaker 1: And at the time Max would have friends over, Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, Max. All Max's friends still talk about how
Speaker 1: I would just come out of the room and scream
Speaker 1: over the banister. Shut up.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, there was nothing banshee about you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well I was so not like that.
Speaker 2: Well, no, because you know what, it's like, I really
Speaker 2: loved that at the holidays at the Winklers, everybody's friends
Speaker 2: were invited. Yeah, it didn't matter.
Speaker 1: And the mean now even now, if I like Ace
Speaker 1: made an amazing friend in the Griffins, an amazing friend,
Speaker 1: and their whole family's in Chicago in elementary school. Now
Speaker 1: they're still friends. They're in seventh grade, and they've come
Speaker 1: to our Thanksgiving, Like, you know, it's just so avy
Speaker 1: and Miles so like it's the best. So it's just
Speaker 1: so nice that.
Speaker 2: Like I met av when she was four, she wrote
Speaker 2: me notes, Yeah.
Speaker 1: She so, but it's so nice. And then the next
Speaker 1: day we do Thanksgiving like a Thanksgiving lunch for and
Speaker 1: all of our friends caught and the boys play football
Speaker 1: outside and it's wonderful. It's the best, and it's just
Speaker 1: my favorite holiday. I love everything about it.
Speaker 2: I do too, you know what, I could never have
Speaker 2: a Christmas tree. My parents were very short Germans who
Speaker 2: escaped Nazi Germany, and there was a pall over the house.
Speaker 2: We lit the minora with friend. It means it was
Speaker 2: no joy in my apartment. Growing up in New York
Speaker 2: City did it so differently, And then I came out here.
Speaker 2: I met mom, I met your mom.
Speaker 1: But we were never allowed to have a.
Speaker 2: No, because I could not. I couldn't have a Christmas tree.
Speaker 2: Tell now it's the front.
Speaker 1: Tell now all these tell Now I went as soon
Speaker 1: as I lived, when you made me move out, then
Speaker 1: what did you get?
Speaker 2: We got a Christmas tree celebration. But we got it
Speaker 2: in July.
Speaker 1: It's like a ten foot Christmas tree. Thirteen okay, thirteen, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right.
Speaker 2: Ten would be affordable. The I'm not kidding.
Speaker 1: And what's so amazing about it is beautiful Mom puts
Speaker 1: has like this has all these ornaments, yes, and they're
Speaker 1: all personalized. So like there's a Paul Bunyan one that's rob.
Speaker 1: There's a caviar one that's me. That's right, there's a
Speaker 1: ballet one, there's a dance.
Speaker 2: One, there's Meanwhile, I just saw our granddaughter, our oldest granddaughter,
Speaker 2: in her musical at her high school Mia.
Speaker 1: Oh my good, very talented.
Speaker 2: It was like there was a beacon of light that
Speaker 2: just followed her around and she was in the back
Speaker 2: row of the chorus because she was she just has it.
Speaker 2: She's oh, she has.
Speaker 1: Has it right, Wow, that's amazing.
Speaker 2: And then her sister or her younger sister is a
Speaker 2: dancer with like a vengeance. There is a power that
Speaker 2: comes out of that little body. Holy Molly.
Speaker 1: Okay, moving on. Okay, So then also it's not on
Speaker 1: the subject.
Speaker 2: Oh so then, well isn't it interesting? It's interesting. No,
Speaker 2: it doesn't have to be about an ornament. But there
Speaker 2: is an ornament on our tree for every single time,
Speaker 2: for every single child.
Speaker 1: And for every adult too, and or five or six.
Speaker 1: And there's many Fonzie ones.
Speaker 2: I got them in the mail from fans.
Speaker 1: I love them and as it's where's the fanzi? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And and they were they were put out by a
Speaker 2: Hallmark Oh yeah, do we get any.
Speaker 1: Money for that? No, that's disappointing anyways. So now you
Speaker 1: know what would be beautiful Christmas tree? And we celebrate Christmas.
Speaker 1: When we were little, we'd go to Hawaii every year for.
Speaker 2: Christmas, right when there was happy days money, right.
Speaker 1: And then you guys would mom would send ahead our stockings.
Speaker 2: Yes, we would send nineteen boxes ahead. Yeah that's true, right,
Speaker 2: not just stockings, every gift.
Speaker 1: So let's let's let's really go back and wonder why
Speaker 1: I am who I am? What came first? The chicken
Speaker 1: or the egg, the nineteen boxes in Hawaii? How am
Speaker 1: I supposed to live any different?
Speaker 2: Yes? Right, that's true. Nobody else except for me seize
Speaker 2: the problem. Yeah, I did say to Stacy your mom
Speaker 2: one of those Christmases, I said, we have Look, we
Speaker 2: have nineteen bags.
Speaker 1: Really you would let us each bring a friend to
Speaker 1: Hawaii too?
Speaker 2: Yes? Okay, but we had nineteen bags. But that was
Speaker 2: just the winklers. Do you think we wear all of
Speaker 2: that stuff?
Speaker 1: Question all the time?
Speaker 2: Do you think we can cut down? And the next
Speaker 2: year we had eighteen.
Speaker 1: So there you go. She listened. Every single time I
Speaker 1: travel with Rob, the anxiety I feel when we get
Speaker 1: to the airport and they weigh the bag is insurmountable,
Speaker 1: Like I, so I got to travel.
Speaker 2: There's a solution to that, you know, put less in
Speaker 2: the bag, put less bags in the bags.
Speaker 1: Put less? Well, no, because I need the option.
Speaker 2: The option. You're in a bathing suit.
Speaker 1: A nice right, Well, I don't like to Just sorry,
Speaker 1: I don't like to just walk around in a bathing
Speaker 1: suit all day. I need and also like it's more
Speaker 1: expensive to do laundry, so I'd rather just bring a
Speaker 1: lot of choices.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's what it is. Your saving us.
Speaker 1: Literally, he has the same conversation with me, and then
Speaker 1: he's like, well, I'm the one that has to carry it.
Speaker 1: First of all, the bag has wheels, so he's not
Speaker 1: carrying anything.
Speaker 2: Second of all, Like, no, but you know what it is.
Speaker 2: It's not carrying it physically, it's keeping track of it.
Speaker 2: It's making sure it gets on the plane. It's making
Speaker 2: sure it gets off the plane. It's making sure it
Speaker 2: gets in the extra van. We have to rent for
Speaker 2: the bags alone. Okay, Wow, that's a big responsibility. Wait.
Speaker 1: I felt traveling by myself last two a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago, where I could just like put my suitcase
Speaker 1: on there and just let my freak flag fly. Was
Speaker 1: you have? I felt so free.
Speaker 2: When you're traveling by your life. I did.
Speaker 1: I did. It felt so good.
Speaker 2: But try not to do it when you're traveling.
Speaker 1: It depends if you're going hot weather cold weather.
Speaker 2: You know, it's just well Hawaii is mostly hot.
Speaker 1: Yeah it is, that's true, but you never know it could.
Speaker 2: Have a cold friend, so you pack a sweater.
Speaker 1: Well that was a great tradition, and we actually just
Speaker 1: started doing that tradition again. Yes, last year we got
Speaker 1: to go this year.
Speaker 2: We're not going because mortgage.
Speaker 1: No, because Jesse's having a baby. Oh yeah, Jesse, my
Speaker 1: sister in law, Max's wife is having her second baby. Yes,
Speaker 1: and I'm so excited. And I get to be in
Speaker 1: the room for the birth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were there the first time I was.
Speaker 1: I was her doula, and and and.
Speaker 2: The first time. It was during the pandemic. And because
Speaker 2: you were in the room, they would not allow the
Speaker 2: grandparents to go up and see their grand chi.
Speaker 1: They did think that maybe if you showed your face
Speaker 1: they would break the.
Speaker 2: Did I show my face? They did, and they did
Speaker 2: not bring I want to tell you, I showed my
Speaker 2: nipp I did everything.
Speaker 1: You were so sad. You were so sad. The only
Speaker 1: other place that didn't work was didn't typhung one time?
Speaker 2: And they didn't care that I was not one bit famous.
Speaker 1: And I was. That was the first time I'd ever
Speaker 1: seen it. It was the first time that's never happened before.
Speaker 1: Welcome yours and didn't typhon.
Speaker 2: Yes. All of the people who were working at desks
Speaker 2: now are younger. And they watched Barry.
Speaker 1: That was a hip show.
Speaker 2: They watched Barry. They didn't watch Barry, but the Fawns
Speaker 2: was the one that was so universal. And that is
Speaker 2: like my wife would say, if we got into trouble,
Speaker 2: show the show your face. Now it's can I see
Speaker 2: your license? Sir?
Speaker 1: Wait? But you know what Ace and I started watching.
Speaker 1: Ace is watching the entire like all the seasons of
Speaker 1: Arrested Develot.
Speaker 2: Do you know that? Isn't that wonderful?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So at night, when after I put Gust to bed,
Speaker 1: which takes anywhere from an hour to four, I come
Speaker 1: into my room, Jewles goes to bed, easy peasy, and
Speaker 1: Ace is in our bed watching Rested Development. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: watched Modern Family and now he's under rest.
Speaker 2: That makes me I wasn't on Modern Family.
Speaker 1: I know it's over, but he's watching Arrested develop Wow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so cute.
Speaker 2: That makes me happy.
Speaker 1: I think for every holiday we do it here, every
Speaker 1: single like Easter we do here. We do like an
Speaker 1: East d egg hunt. We do the only passover we
Speaker 1: do at my in laws. That's their holiday, right and
Speaker 1: we all you guys all come and all the kids
Speaker 1: do yep. And my father in law dresses up in
Speaker 1: a costume called Offye coman Man and.
Speaker 2: He's an Affie coman. For those of you who don't know,
Speaker 2: is the middle matta on the table. It is broken
Speaker 2: in half and hidden. H And then all of the
Speaker 2: children spend right after the meal spend all of their
Speaker 2: time looking for that piece of matza, and the one
Speaker 2: who finds it gets a prize.
Speaker 1: And then my favorite part of it is every single
Speaker 1: person is given a passage to read. And when you
Speaker 1: do it, it is literally like you are doing a monologue.
Speaker 2: Is that true?
Speaker 1: Yes? And I film it every year and I put
Speaker 1: it on my Instagram and it is to die for.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: I'm going to find it.
Speaker 2: Well, you know why I want something. Let me just
Speaker 2: say I literally cannot read and it is hard for me,
Speaker 2: so that I can read it and read it with gusto.
Speaker 1: It is Gusto is the word.
Speaker 2: Now? Can I just can I brag?
Speaker 1: Absolutely?
Speaker 2: Okay? It's holiday time. Yeah, my memoir being Henry. Can
Speaker 2: I say this is out in pay paper back, so
Speaker 2: you now have a pay a bendable buddy. We love that, okay.
Speaker 2: And our thirty ninth Lynn Oliver and I our thirty
Speaker 2: ninth children's novel for emerging readers called Detective Duck. She
Speaker 2: is a little duckling who dreams about being a detective
Speaker 2: great and also an environmentalist. I love that for that duck,
Speaker 2: and they are I think would be amazing gifts.
Speaker 1: Beyond bless that duck.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: You know. Actually, Gus brought in that book for his
Speaker 1: class with the duck, the detective Duck. He brought it
Speaker 1: in for his first grade class, and he said to
Speaker 1: all and then apparently this is another good story. So
Speaker 1: at the country Mart there's a bookstore there, Yes, and
Speaker 1: Gus went with my incredible nanny Emily to the country
Speaker 1: Mart to have lunch, and he walked into the Gus
Speaker 1: love's older girls. He just thinks that they're the coolest.
Speaker 1: So he saw all these older girls in the bookstore.
Speaker 1: They were looking at books, and he went and found
Speaker 1: your memoir and said this is my papa. And they
Speaker 1: didn't believe him. And he was so upset that they
Speaker 1: didn't believe him, and so he came back and he said, Emily,
Speaker 1: you have to go in there and you have to
Speaker 1: tell them that that's my papa. So Emily went into
Speaker 1: the bookstore and she said, yes, it's it's the papa.
Speaker 1: And they were like, oh my gosh. We thought he
Speaker 1: was joking. It was so cute. He's figuring it out
Speaker 1: at a young age, how he gets the ladies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but can I just say that story warms my heart.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you never know what is affecting them. You know,
Speaker 2: you don't really see what I do for a living
Speaker 2: in their daily life, except that one day I did
Speaker 2: come to your house because you really celebrate Halloween.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Halloween is our.
Speaker 2: And Ace the oldest, Yeah, was dressed as the Fawnds,
Speaker 2: and I could not contain myself. I think I wet
Speaker 2: my pants.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, the best part was is that eight. Rob
Speaker 1: always likes to like match and Rob was like, I'm
Speaker 1: so uncomfortable that I'm dressed as your father, like because
Speaker 1: Rob was also the Fons and Rob wanted to cry.
Speaker 1: He was like, I'm dressed as your father. This is
Speaker 1: some weird shit. And I was like, enjoy but his
Speaker 1: was more like a Danny Zuka. Weren't you supposed to
Speaker 1: be Danny? Weren't you supposed to be in Greece?
Speaker 2: I was asked, I was asked to be Danny Zuko,
Speaker 2: but I thought I've already done the Fonds for ten years,
Speaker 2: I will be completely type cast. Yeah, and of course
Speaker 2: not thinking right clearly because I was typecast and I
Speaker 2: could have done the movie. But John Travolta was amazing.
Speaker 1: He was he did great.
Speaker 2: I mean he was even in his commercials now, his
Speaker 2: holiday commercials today, he's amazing.
Speaker 1: Never seen them, but I'm sure, yeah, he's dressed great.
Speaker 1: I love that. I'm trying to think what other holiday
Speaker 1: things we do. We always have bagels on Christmas morning.
Speaker 2: I don't know that I do. Yeah, okay, we do.
Speaker 1: When we open the gifts. Can come here really early.
Speaker 2: In the morning, right, leave a mess. Yeah, have bagels. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and have bagels.
Speaker 1: I remember we learned the hard way because we were
Speaker 1: always out of town for the holidays. So a couple
Speaker 1: like I don't know, maybe like five years ago, we
Speaker 1: weren't out of town, and so we came here in
Speaker 1: the morning and we tried to get bagels, and every
Speaker 1: single thing is obviously close. And now we get them
Speaker 1: the day before pro tip. But I'm sure everybody already
Speaker 1: knows that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a morning tip. Yeah, you know, we're celebrating Christmas.
Speaker 2: When I finally understood that it's probably okay to have
Speaker 2: a tree, especially one that smells so beautiful in the
Speaker 2: world and is made with such care and beauty. I
Speaker 2: don't see it as a religious symbol. I just the
Speaker 2: the idea of Christmas and snow and sleigh bells and
Speaker 2: the music, you know, just I actually I love it.
Speaker 2: I do too, and we also like the minora and at.
Speaker 1: Queen, I make incredible lock cou do and I just
Speaker 1: can like I turn them out, I make like.
Speaker 2: Right, you want to bring some over?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I'll make them at my house so they
Speaker 1: don't smell bad here because the oil, that's what that's
Speaker 1: the only thing that happens, is like when you make
Speaker 1: the lakas, the.
Speaker 2: Oil take to get rid of that smell.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I open and it's okay in
Speaker 1: the fan, No, but I I love making lakas. And
Speaker 1: we celebrate Hanuka too.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. A potato pancake with either apple sauce
Speaker 2: or sour cream or both, you know.
Speaker 1: It's even better.
Speaker 2: Shocking.
Speaker 1: So one of my best friends owns a caviar company
Speaker 1: called row Yes, and it's a sustainable caviar company and.
Speaker 2: A what does that mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: A loaca with crem fresh or sour cream and a
Speaker 1: little bit of row. Caviar is to die.
Speaker 2: Now do you think that? What? What about the people
Speaker 2: who are listening who cannot have cave.
Speaker 1: Get cavia at the market, Like it's yeah, it's like
Speaker 1: you can get it. You can get any kind of caviar. Actually, Bethany,
Speaker 1: that Frankel, she was a housewife. Yes, I remember, he
Speaker 1: gets tobiko. She's like taken over TikTok by storm. She
Speaker 1: gets like these like they're like crunchy fish eggs and
Speaker 1: they're actually really good and they're ten dollars.
Speaker 2: Oh wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah. You have a publisher, your publisher who travels with
Speaker 1: you when you do book tours.
Speaker 2: Christine.
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with her.
Speaker 2: I am obsessed with her.
Speaker 1: She travels with you and Mom, I cannot imagine. I
Speaker 1: heard you guys talking much order, and I was like,
Speaker 1: this woman deserves a medal of sorts.
Speaker 2: That was the that she travels with us for the memoir.
Speaker 1: She's amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she all over the United States.
Speaker 1: I know it's amazing.
Speaker 2: It's available.
Speaker 1: Do you think you're going to write an your bendable buddy,
Speaker 1: Will you write another memoir?
Speaker 2: No? I don't think so.
Speaker 1: You think you could do a memoir part two, you.
Speaker 2: Do, and what would it be? It would be all
Speaker 2: about me? Yeah, I kind of had the feeling now.
Speaker 1: It would be all about like now, like these years,
Speaker 1: ever since, ever since when the memoir one stopped, memoir
Speaker 1: too about like.
Speaker 2: Now, it's only a year worth of life, and it's a.
Speaker 1: Lot of life, a lot of life, a lot of life.
Speaker 1: It is true, it's a tremendous amount of life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is true.
Speaker 1: You know what, I do think you should write a
Speaker 1: book about them, his being a grandparent and a parent, really,
Speaker 1: because I think it's pretty interesting that you had kind
Speaker 1: of an abusive, verbally abusive childhood.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could take kind of out.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I didn't know. Okay, So I mean I
Speaker 1: do know, but I didn't know if that was an
Speaker 1: okay thing to say.
Speaker 2: Do you remember when my father was talking to you
Speaker 2: and said something he slapped to you, and no, you
Speaker 2: slapped him first, and he he slapped you back. What
Speaker 2: you do? I said, Dad, you probably don't want to
Speaker 2: slap my daughter. But I slashed It was free.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember Opie slapped me. I thought the story
Speaker 1: was he slapped to me and I slapped him back.
Speaker 1: But apparently I slept him first.
Speaker 2: Good to know, I think.
Speaker 1: So I've been telling the story all.
Speaker 2: Right, and then I said, you probably don't want to.
Speaker 1: Slap my daughter, And then what happened, And.
Speaker 2: Then I don't think he ever did great. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: they were a trip my parents.
Speaker 1: But you do it so differently, and I think that
Speaker 1: that's such a it's really when you I don't know,
Speaker 1: I didn't grow up in an abusive household, but I
Speaker 1: would assume that a lot of the things I do
Speaker 1: know what it's like to grow up in a household,
Speaker 1: and a lot of the things that you learn or
Speaker 1: that you that you are exposed to as a child,
Speaker 1: it shapes you so to.
Speaker 2: Almost every day I said, I promise myself I will
Speaker 2: not be like them.
Speaker 1: But to actually do that, I think takes so much strength.
Speaker 1: I mean, well, I'm not saying that if you have
Speaker 1: an abusive household, you're going to be an abuser, but
Speaker 1: I just mean to do it so differently.
Speaker 2: But remember when you came in and I would be
Speaker 2: rude and I would say to you, I didn't mean it.
Speaker 2: I didn't mean to sound like that. I'm taking that back.
Speaker 2: This is the way I meant to say it. Do
Speaker 2: you know that in parent did I not say that? Yes?
Speaker 1: But do you know that in parenting classes and groups
Speaker 1: like I meet with a parenting specialist, I think it's
Speaker 1: always important to keep working on it. They say that
Speaker 1: that is the number one thing that a parent should
Speaker 1: do to create closeness between their child repair because everyone's
Speaker 1: going to make a mistake. There's no such thing as
Speaker 1: a perfect parent. There's a million times where I you
Speaker 1: just said that, and couldn't you apply it to me? No, No,
Speaker 1: it's for the child to this. It's for the parents
Speaker 1: the child. You're my parent, But I'll accept all apologies
Speaker 1: right now. Would you like to start?
Speaker 2: Yes? Okay, deeply?
Speaker 1: Do you remember that one time when we were going
Speaker 1: fishing and I took too long to get ready and
Speaker 1: you threw the boot across the room, but not at you,
Speaker 1: But it raised my head.
Speaker 2: It didn't graze your head, it didn't touch you.
Speaker 1: One time you threw deodorant when the room. I do
Speaker 1: that time, I don't remember.
Speaker 2: I don't remember that.
Speaker 1: The amount of times you've gotten mattered literally on one hand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I will say that when I'm fishing or
Speaker 2: when I have the opportunity to actually get on the
Speaker 2: rear animal. I was not going to say that, but
Speaker 2: it's possibly true that.
Speaker 1: You loved it. But I only went that one time.
Speaker 1: I'm not a big fisher.
Speaker 2: No no, but I actually.
Speaker 1: Did it at this dude ranch and I loved it.
Speaker 1: I did it with the boys, and I liked fly fishing.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to this episode of
Speaker 1: What in the Winkler. Tell a friend to follow us
Speaker 1: and subscribe and listen. Yeah, and thanks for being my
Speaker 1: guest dad again. You know what you have next week off?
Speaker 2: Wow, enjoy I'm going to take a nat