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Speaker 1: You are listening to What in the Winkler and iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome back to another episode of What in

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Speaker 1: the Winkler with another guest, a regular Henry Winkler.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Hi Dad, I'm so happy to be here, so.

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Speaker 1: Happy you're here. Thank you for saving me. Mom is

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Speaker 1: still out of town and you're my guy.

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Speaker 2: Hey.

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Speaker 1: Hey, yeah, I know you have a lot of things

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Speaker 1: to do, and I'm really grateful that you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but this is fine to do this thing. This

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Speaker 2: is fun.

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Speaker 1: It is fun. I like just talking to you. And

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Speaker 1: also what's so incredible about this opportunity is that I'm

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Speaker 1: going to have these memories for the rest of my

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Speaker 1: life on tape with you and with Mom, which is

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Speaker 1: such a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, truly. Yeah, I'm very proud of you that this

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Speaker 2: exists and you're so good at it.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm proud of you because without you, baby, it

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Speaker 1: wouldn't Oh, it's a real wow. Just remember that we

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Speaker 1: both we both we both gave.

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Speaker 2: We gave gave at the office.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I think this week what I really was

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Speaker 1: thinking about and what I've been thinking about is the

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Speaker 1: holiday season, because I cannot believe we're already at that time.

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Speaker 2: It goes so fast, and the older you get, the

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Speaker 2: faster it goes.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm getting there. I mean I'm forty four. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm getting up there.

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Speaker 2: I'm forty nine. That's You're amazing, Yeah you are.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy. I can't believe, Like, would this week called

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Speaker 1: mid forties.

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Speaker 2: Your mid forties? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Jesus. Okay, So anyways, what I wanted to talk about

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Speaker 1: was specifically we talked about this. I think like when

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Speaker 1: the first time you were on the episode was this

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Speaker 1: week is Thanksgiving, right, And I am so excited because

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Speaker 1: tomorrow actually we do stuffing day here, right, which is

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Speaker 1: my favorite day of the year.

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Speaker 2: You know what, It reminds me of the pioneer days.

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Speaker 2: All of the women in the family and friends are

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Speaker 2: so boys, so boys, your sons, but all of the

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Speaker 2: women in the family and their friends and your sons

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Speaker 2: come and in our kitchen make stuffing.

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Speaker 1: That's right, And it's Nanna's recipe, right, it's my mom's

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Speaker 1: mom's recipe, right, and.

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Speaker 2: My with and without sausage, within without sausage.

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Speaker 1: So we do one with sausage, one without one vegetarian.

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Speaker 2: But smell in the house is to die.

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Speaker 1: For but that that day is one of our main

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Speaker 1: traditions that I can for as long as I can remember.

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Speaker 1: And Thanksgiving is my very very very favorite holiday me too.

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Speaker 1: And I love the food. But I also think it's

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Speaker 1: the coziest holiday mm hmm, because like it gets a

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Speaker 1: little bit cooler. I mean we are in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 1: so it's not freezing, but usually it gets cooler. And

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Speaker 1: the colors, the colors, and it's family, it's all. It's

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Speaker 1: the whole family together, eased.

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Speaker 2: To have in our backyard, stragglers who didn't have a

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Speaker 2: place to go. Family. So there ended up to be

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Speaker 2: fifty or sixty people at a at a circular or

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Speaker 2: chance to say what it is they were grateful for

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Speaker 2: at that moment in that year.

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Speaker 1: And do you remember, and I remember, you would put

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Speaker 1: our artwork all over the time.

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Speaker 2: I loved it. I saved every bit of your artwork,

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Speaker 2: thinking the kids will love to show their kids idea

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Speaker 2: their artwork. Nothing it's in boxing, I take it you.

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Speaker 1: First of all, you've dropped off every box at my home.

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Speaker 1: I have a much smaller home than you, so it

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Speaker 1: is not as easy to house, all of that, but

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Speaker 1: I have You've dropped it all of the my house,

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Speaker 1: and I save all of it and I love it,

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Speaker 1: and I save my kids stuff. Oh yeah, but that

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Speaker 1: to me, Thanksgiving here is just like the best holiday

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Speaker 1: ever and it's still to this day, seventy five people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and and delicious. I mean it really does taste

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Speaker 2: like you dream Thanksgiving detection.

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Speaker 1: I think so too.

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Speaker 2: But I did love putting all three of your artworks

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. I mean, I remember there's a home

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Speaker 1: Someone should have cut me off about my artwork at

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Speaker 2: You were always a good talker, I.

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Speaker 1: Really, I agree. And then this year I'm with my

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Speaker 2: Right and only right that you should switch off.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we switch off every year, but this year actually,

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Speaker 1: Ace is going to cook the mac and cheese and

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about Ace. He I'm going to be thirteen

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Speaker 2: and just a month or two one month. He is

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Speaker 2: in his soul a chef he is. He loves food.

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Speaker 2: He knows how to make food. When you take a

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Speaker 2: picture of him cooking, he looks like all of those

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Speaker 1: He loves it and he's thirteen. Such a passion for it.

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Speaker 1: And I was looking through all these videos, like all

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Speaker 1: the videos on my phone because I'm getting ready to

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Speaker 1: have a big celebration for him, and we're going to

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Speaker 1: show a video and it goes back his cooking videos

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Speaker 1: go back to when he was five.

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Speaker 2: Years old, when we babysat for the three boys. Ace

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Speaker 2: woke up, came to my side of the bed and said,

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Speaker 2: you like for breakfast? He said pancakes. I said, I

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Speaker 2: am so sorry, I don't know how to make pancakes. Really,

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Speaker 2: he said, don't worry, and naked, he walked through the house,

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Speaker 2: could reach up and brush his teeth, dragged it across

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Speaker 1: It's so cute because he spends the night now at

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Speaker 1: his best friend River. He spends the night there, and

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Speaker 1: Lauren sent me a picture of him making breakfast the

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Speaker 1: so many things. But you can just see that this

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Speaker 2: But one day, two years ago, let's say he was here.

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Speaker 2: He came I picked him up at school and we

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Speaker 2: and he went into the pantry and he found ramen

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Speaker 2: He would say, no, you know what it needs a

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Speaker 2: He would add that to the mix until he said

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Speaker 2: It's not like he just likes it. He lives it,

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Speaker 2: He imagines food.

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Speaker 1: He does well. Just like our family has a big Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 1: so do the rhinuses. Yeah, that's like again, I think

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Speaker 1: it's like forty seven people, right, And so Ace is

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Speaker 1: which I think is really exciting. And he's excited. I'm excited.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what that that happens usually at about

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Speaker 1: But one thing about me is that I am insane

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Speaker 1: about cleanliness.

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Speaker 2: Not when you lived here, but as soon as you

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Speaker 2: And how old were you when you finally moved out

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Speaker 1: I don't really feel like that's a necessary conversation.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I say, well, okay, so I know, okay, But

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Speaker 2: I want to say.

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Speaker 1: I went to college in Wisconsin. I came home after

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Speaker 1: So then I came home.

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Speaker 2: Then what now you tell me we should never have

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Speaker 1: Then I went to Lila Marry Matt Universe classes?

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Speaker 2: Did you take a year been for this?

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Speaker 1: This was in our first episode?

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Speaker 2: I came home.

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Speaker 1: Then I loved being home, which is such a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 1: And you mom said like, this is not okay? And

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Speaker 1: I my room is right next to your room, Yes

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Speaker 2: We do listen to the TV.

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Speaker 1: You guys are fucking deaf, and you listen to it

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Speaker 2: Mom insists that the TV stay on so when she

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Speaker 1: Right, So every night I would be like, turn it down,

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Speaker 2: Max stays here sometimes with his wife Jesse and their babe,

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Speaker 2: and he too comes in and said, could you turn

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Speaker 2: it's wild?

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Speaker 1: It's actually wild, but.

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Speaker 2: We know that this is here. Here's a great thing

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Speaker 2: about it. No, Mom, and I can actually hear what's

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Speaker 2: on the TV. That's great.

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Speaker 1: I love that. But I was thinking, thank you, you

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Speaker 1: should have gotten like earphones to just like watch and

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Speaker 2: That would have been thoughtful.

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Speaker 1: And at the time Max would have friends over, Oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, Max. All Max's friends still talk about how

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Speaker 1: I would just come out of the room and scream

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Speaker 1: over the banister. Shut up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah no, there was nothing banshee about you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well I was so not like that.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, because you know what, it's like, I really

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Speaker 2: loved that at the holidays at the Winklers, everybody's friends

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Speaker 1: And the mean now even now, if I like Ace

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Speaker 1: Wait? But you know what Ace and I started watching.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: And our thirty ninth Lynn Oliver and I our thirty

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Speaker 1: Beyond bless that duck.

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Speaker 2: you don't really see what I do for a living

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Speaker 2: in their daily life, except that one day I did

444
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Speaker 2: come to your house because you really celebrate Halloween.

445
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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Halloween is our.

446
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Speaker 2: And Ace the oldest, Yeah, was dressed as the Fawnds,

447
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Speaker 2: and I could not contain myself. I think I wet

448
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Speaker 2: my pants.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, the best part was is that eight. Rob

450
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Speaker 1: always likes to like match and Rob was like, I'm

451
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Speaker 1: so uncomfortable that I'm dressed as your father, like because

452
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Speaker 1: Rob was also the Fons and Rob wanted to cry.

453
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Speaker 1: He was like, I'm dressed as your father. This is

454
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Speaker 1: some weird shit. And I was like, enjoy but his

455
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Speaker 1: was more like a Danny Zuka. Weren't you supposed to

456
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Speaker 1: be Danny? Weren't you supposed to be in Greece?

457
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Speaker 2: I was asked, I was asked to be Danny Zuko,

458
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Speaker 2: but I thought I've already done the Fonds for ten years,

459
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Speaker 2: I will be completely type cast. Yeah, and of course

460
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:33,439
Speaker 2: not thinking right clearly because I was typecast and I

461
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Speaker 2: could have done the movie. But John Travolta was amazing.

462
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Speaker 1: He was he did great.

463
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Speaker 2: I mean he was even in his commercials now, his

464
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Speaker 2: holiday commercials today, he's amazing.

465
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Speaker 1: Never seen them, but I'm sure, yeah, he's dressed great.

466
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Speaker 1: I love that. I'm trying to think what other holiday

467
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Speaker 1: things we do. We always have bagels on Christmas morning.

468
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Speaker 2: I don't know that I do. Yeah, okay, we do.

469
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Speaker 1: When we open the gifts. Can come here really early.

470
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Speaker 2: In the morning, right, leave a mess. Yeah, have bagels. Yeah,

471
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Speaker 2: and have bagels.

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Speaker 1: I remember we learned the hard way because we were

473
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Speaker 1: always out of town for the holidays. So a couple

474
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Speaker 1: like I don't know, maybe like five years ago, we

475
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Speaker 1: weren't out of town, and so we came here in

476
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Speaker 1: the morning and we tried to get bagels, and every

477
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Speaker 1: single thing is obviously close. And now we get them

478
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Speaker 1: the day before pro tip. But I'm sure everybody already

479
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Speaker 1: knows that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a morning tip. Yeah, you know, we're celebrating Christmas.

481
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Speaker 2: When I finally understood that it's probably okay to have

482
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Speaker 2: a tree, especially one that smells so beautiful in the

483
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Speaker 2: world and is made with such care and beauty. I

484
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Speaker 2: don't see it as a religious symbol. I just the

485
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Speaker 2: the idea of Christmas and snow and sleigh bells and

486
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Speaker 2: the music, you know, just I actually I love it.

487
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Speaker 2: I do too, and we also like the minora and at.

488
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Speaker 1: Queen, I make incredible lock cou do and I just

489
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Speaker 1: can like I turn them out, I make like.

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Speaker 2: Right, you want to bring some over?

491
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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I'll make them at my house so they

492
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Speaker 1: don't smell bad here because the oil, that's what that's

493
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Speaker 1: the only thing that happens, is like when you make

494
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Speaker 1: the lakas, the.

495
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Speaker 2: Oil take to get rid of that smell.

496
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Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I open and it's okay in

497
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Speaker 1: the fan, No, but I I love making lakas. And

498
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Speaker 1: we celebrate Hanuka too.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. A potato pancake with either apple sauce

500
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Speaker 2: or sour cream or both, you know.

501
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Speaker 1: It's even better.

502
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Speaker 2: Shocking.

503
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Speaker 1: So one of my best friends owns a caviar company

504
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Speaker 1: called row Yes, and it's a sustainable caviar company and.

505
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Speaker 2: A what does that mean, I don't know.

506
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Speaker 1: A loaca with crem fresh or sour cream and a

507
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Speaker 1: little bit of row. Caviar is to die.

508
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Speaker 2: Now do you think that? What? What about the people

509
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Speaker 2: who are listening who cannot have cave.

510
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Speaker 1: Get cavia at the market, Like it's yeah, it's like

511
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Speaker 1: you can get it. You can get any kind of caviar. Actually, Bethany,

512
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Speaker 1: that Frankel, she was a housewife. Yes, I remember, he

513
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:05,239
Speaker 1: gets tobiko. She's like taken over TikTok by storm. She

514
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: gets like these like they're like crunchy fish eggs and

515
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 1: they're actually really good and they're ten dollars.

516
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Speaker 2: Oh wow.

517
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Speaker 1: Yeah. You have a publisher, your publisher who travels with

518
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Speaker 1: you when you do book tours.

519
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Speaker 2: Christine.

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Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with her.

521
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 2: I am obsessed with her.

522
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Speaker 1: She travels with you and Mom, I cannot imagine. I

523
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Speaker 1: heard you guys talking much order, and I was like,

524
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Speaker 1: this woman deserves a medal of sorts.

525
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Speaker 2: That was the that she travels with us for the memoir.

526
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Speaker 1: She's amazing.

527
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Speaker 2: Yeah, she all over the United States.

528
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Speaker 1: I know it's amazing.

529
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Speaker 2: It's available.

530
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Speaker 1: Do you think you're going to write an your bendable buddy,

531
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Speaker 1: Will you write another memoir?

532
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 2: No? I don't think so.

533
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Speaker 1: You think you could do a memoir part two, you.

534
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Speaker 2: Do, and what would it be? It would be all

535
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 2: about me? Yeah, I kind of had the feeling now.

536
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Speaker 1: It would be all about like now, like these years,

537
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Speaker 1: ever since, ever since when the memoir one stopped, memoir

538
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 1: too about like.

539
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 2: Now, it's only a year worth of life, and it's a.

540
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 1: Lot of life, a lot of life, a lot of life.

541
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Speaker 1: It is true, it's a tremendous amount of life.

542
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is true.

543
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Speaker 1: You know what, I do think you should write a

544
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Speaker 1: book about them, his being a grandparent and a parent, really,

545
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Speaker 1: because I think it's pretty interesting that you had kind

546
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Speaker 1: of an abusive, verbally abusive childhood.

547
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you could take kind of out.

548
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Speaker 1: Okay, So I didn't know. Okay, So I mean I

549
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Speaker 1: do know, but I didn't know if that was an

550
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Speaker 1: okay thing to say.

551
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Speaker 2: Do you remember when my father was talking to you

552
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Speaker 2: and said something he slapped to you, and no, you

553
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 2: slapped him first, and he he slapped you back. What

554
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Speaker 2: you do? I said, Dad, you probably don't want to

555
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Speaker 2: slap my daughter. But I slashed It was free.

556
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember Opie slapped me. I thought the story

557
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Speaker 1: was he slapped to me and I slapped him back.

558
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Speaker 1: But apparently I slept him first.

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Speaker 2: Good to know, I think.

560
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: So I've been telling the story all.

561
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Speaker 2: Right, and then I said, you probably don't want to.

562
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: Slap my daughter, And then what happened, And.

563
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 2: Then I don't think he ever did great. Yeah, yeah,

564
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 2: they were a trip my parents.

565
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Speaker 1: But you do it so differently, and I think that

566
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 1: that's such a it's really when you I don't know,

567
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 1: I didn't grow up in an abusive household, but I

568
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: would assume that a lot of the things I do

569
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: know what it's like to grow up in a household,

570
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 1: and a lot of the things that you learn or

571
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: that you that you are exposed to as a child,

572
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: it shapes you so to.

573
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 2: Almost every day I said, I promise myself I will

574
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Speaker 2: not be like them.

575
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 1: But to actually do that, I think takes so much strength.

576
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Speaker 1: I mean, well, I'm not saying that if you have

577
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: an abusive household, you're going to be an abuser, but

578
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 1: I just mean to do it so differently.

579
00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 2: But remember when you came in and I would be

580
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 2: rude and I would say to you, I didn't mean it.

581
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 2: I didn't mean to sound like that. I'm taking that back.

582
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 2: This is the way I meant to say it. Do

583
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 2: you know that in parent did I not say that? Yes?

584
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: But do you know that in parenting classes and groups

585
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: like I meet with a parenting specialist, I think it's

586
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: always important to keep working on it. They say that

587
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: that is the number one thing that a parent should

588
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: do to create closeness between their child repair because everyone's

589
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: going to make a mistake. There's no such thing as

590
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 1: a perfect parent. There's a million times where I you

591
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: just said that, and couldn't you apply it to me? No, No,

592
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: it's for the child to this. It's for the parents

593
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: the child. You're my parent, But I'll accept all apologies

594
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: right now. Would you like to start?

595
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 2: Yes? Okay, deeply?

596
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Speaker 1: Do you remember that one time when we were going

597
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: fishing and I took too long to get ready and

598
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: you threw the boot across the room, but not at you,

599
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: But it raised my head.

600
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Speaker 2: It didn't graze your head, it didn't touch you.

601
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Speaker 1: One time you threw deodorant when the room. I do

602
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: that time, I don't remember.

603
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 2: I don't remember that.

604
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: The amount of times you've gotten mattered literally on one hand.

605
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I will say that when I'm fishing or

606
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 2: when I have the opportunity to actually get on the

607
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 2: rear animal. I was not going to say that, but

608
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 2: it's possibly true that.

609
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: You loved it. But I only went that one time.

610
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: I'm not a big fisher.

611
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 2: No no, but I actually.

612
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: Did it at this dude ranch and I loved it.

613
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: I did it with the boys, and I liked fly fishing.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to this episode of

615
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Speaker 1: What in the Winkler. Tell a friend to follow us

616
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: and subscribe and listen. Yeah, and thanks for being my

617
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: guest dad again. You know what you have next week off?

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Speaker 2: Wow, enjoy I'm going to take a nat