1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 2: As we've been telling you every few minutes. Tomorrow's the 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 2: pastathon at the Anaheim White House, Katerina's Club, Chef Bruno. 5 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: You probably know all this fine now and you can donate. 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 2: They have fixed the spelling of my name on the 7 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 2: auction site. Oh great, so I'm they only had five 8 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 2: of my six letters. They had kobyt Now it's kobylt. 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: So nobody knew. 10 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 3: Where they were bidding on John. So now people are 11 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 3: going to start spending more money. 12 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 2: Right, So we're at twenty eight hundred and seventy six 13 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 2: dollars I think to be a co host on the 14 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 2: show for an hour, So let's let's keep the bidding 15 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 2: going there. Yeah, twenty eight seventy six is the high 16 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: bid to co host with me for an hour. Anyway, 17 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: Tomorrow we'll be on from one to four here, Deborah 18 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 2: and I and the whole station will be on between 19 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: five am and ten pm. And yes, Never has some 20 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 2: bizarre app that I'm gonna wear tomorrow. 21 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 3: And John will be prancing around in a very. 22 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 2: Uh should I do the Garcetti prance. 23 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you're going to be doing. 24 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: That for sure. But how am I going to learn 25 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 1: the steps? 26 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 3: I've already Hey, I've mentioned this to you a while ago, 27 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 3: so you better learn it because you're gonna be dancing. 28 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 2: I'm supposed to study the Garcetti dance moves in India. 29 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: Yes, I don't think I'm going to be able to. 30 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 3: Well, then you're gonna look even more ridiculous. 31 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: I don't think I can out to how ridiculous I've 32 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 2: already looked. Anyway, tomorrow, that's that'll be all the fun. 33 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 2: Oh and I just found out and he's uh, he's 34 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 2: going to be on my phone so he won't witness this, 35 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 2: this embarrassment. Nathan Hakman is coming on at three o'clock 36 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,279 Speaker 2: because tomorrow is Nathan Hawkman's first day on the job 37 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: as district Attorney's going to be sworn in I think 38 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: sometime tomorrow morning by Arnold Schwartzinger. So Nathan Hawkman's first day. 39 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: We are in the last hours of the gasconon era, 40 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: the Gascone wreckage. 41 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: All right, let's go to. 42 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: Our guest here. We used to have him on frequently, 43 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 2: doctor John Eastman. He was the Dean of Chapman University's 44 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 2: School of Law and specializing in constitutional law, legal history, 45 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 2: and property. And then he joined the Trump legal team 46 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: right after, right around the twenty twenty election, and some 47 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: of his theories and strategies were used by Trump. It 48 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: was he had a plan under which Mike Pence would 49 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: block the certification of Biden's electoral college victory. I think 50 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: we know what happened since then, and Eastman has been 51 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: indicted in in these cases and we'll find out what 52 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 2: the where he is now legally. Let's get John Eastman 53 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 2: on how are you hey? 54 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 4: John? How are you John? 55 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 1: I'm good? Uh So? 56 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: What what is your legal status right now? Because I 57 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: know they were they were headed trying to dispar you. 58 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 4: Well, the California Bar Hearing Court has recommended disbarment. It's 59 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 4: a pretty outrageous decision, and we've appealed that they don't. 60 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 4: The bar court itself doesn't have authority to disbar or 61 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 4: even suspend my license. Only the Californias Supreme Court can 62 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 4: do that. So we'll see what happens in the intermediate 63 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 4: months and years while we get this case up to 64 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 4: the California Supreme Court. 65 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 2: And what now I know Jack Smith, the special prosecutor 66 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: is withdrawn. Is withdrawing the case in Washington, d C. 67 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: Were you part of that one as well? Because that was. 68 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 4: I was described as an unindicted co conspirator in that case. 69 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 4: Even though the conspiracy charge is centered on a provision 70 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 4: of the statute that was part of the old mob 71 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:57,119 Speaker 4: witness intimidation statute, it was preposterous to even suggest that 72 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 4: that statute applied, And the Supreme Court, in one of 73 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 4: the j six defending cases, said, this is not what 74 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 4: this statute is for. So Jack Smith had to drop 75 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 4: those charges anyway, and then he was still trying to 76 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 4: figure out a way to keep going against President Trump. 77 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 4: But now that President Trump's been reelected, he can't go 78 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 4: after the soon to be sitting president, all right. 79 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 2: So the only case that would remain that both Trump 80 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 2: and you are a target would be the state case 81 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 2: in Georgia where Trump was accused of trying to influence 82 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:34,119 Speaker 2: the vote count with the best Georgia Secretary of State. 83 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 4: That's what he was accused of. But I mean, they 84 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 4: continue to insist on this false characterization of that infamous 85 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 4: phone call. I mean, Trump did not ask Raffensburger the 86 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 4: Secretary of State to go make up eleven twelve hundred 87 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 4: votes so he would win. He said, we've identified about 88 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty thousand illegal votes. All you have 89 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 4: to do is find twelve thousand of them and I win. 90 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 4: Completely different take, and so the points on the left 91 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 4: and the narrative is just repeatedly false. The Washington Post 92 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 4: originally ran with that story, and they had the issue 93 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 4: a retraction once the actual transcript of the of the 94 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 4: phone call was produced, But everybody else keeps citing it 95 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 4: as if you know, Trump said go make up twelve 96 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 4: thousand votes for me so I can win. Now, are 97 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 4: you creayton falsehood? 98 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: Are you under indictment in the Georgia case? 99 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 4: I am, and also in Arizona, and we're you know, 100 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 4: fighting hard against both of these. These these are egregious 101 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 4: examples of what we now call law there, which is 102 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 4: the use of creative use of the criminal statutes or 103 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,239 Speaker 4: the bar disciplinary processes to go after your political enemies. 104 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 4: It's it's Soviet style stuff. It's you know. Lorente Berea, famously, 105 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 4: he was the Stalin head of secret police, famously said 106 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 4: show me the man, and I'll show you the crime. 107 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 4: And what these guys are doing is scouring the statute 108 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 4: books to try and find something that they can pin 109 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 4: on Donald Trump and his teas borders so that people 110 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 4: will be shamed into silence or powered into silence. And 111 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 4: that's just not the crew. We are sure we're not 112 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 4: gonna sit silently while they do this. 113 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,799 Speaker 2: You know, it's difficult to track all these cases because 114 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: of the complexities. But did you do anything, in your eyes, 115 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: obviously beyond just give legal advice, even even if some 116 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 2: people thought it was hair brained and wrong and this 117 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 2: and that was it just giving legal advice that it costs, 118 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 2: So it was druving. 119 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 4: Legal advice, but also exercising my own free speech and 120 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 4: right to petition the government for redress of grievances constitutional rights. 121 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 4: There were lots of grievances about illegality in the twenty 122 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 4: twenty election, and we were asking elected officials to investigate. 123 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 4: And if the investigations proved that, in fact the illegality 124 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 4: it affected the outcome of the elections, it knew something 125 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 4: about it. That's a constitutional right every citizen in this 126 00:06:55,800 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 4: country has. And then and then giving legal advice even 127 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 4: even if people thought it was implausible. And you know, John, 128 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 4: I've been on your show long enough for you to 129 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 4: know that. You know, I have a view of the 130 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 4: Constitution that's based on original understanding that a lot of 131 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 4: my colleagues in the Lego Academy don't share. That doesn't 132 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 4: you know. I happen to be right at most of 133 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 4: those things. But even if I'm not, that doesn't make 134 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 4: it a criminal offense or disparable events to have a 135 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 4: difference of opinion about constitutional interpretation. 136 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 2: Do you think Trump is going to pardon you for 137 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 2: any federal problems you might have? 138 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: Well take care of any like. 139 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 4: It goes Yeah, the federal stuff looks like it goes 140 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 4: away with Trump coming in. Uh so, you know, no 141 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 4: pardoner necessary. And of course he doesn't have pardon power 142 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 4: over the state proceedings in Georgia or Arizona. Those proceedings 143 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 4: just need to be dismissed. We learned in Arizona, for example, recently. 144 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 4: Is this This hardline anti Trump activist group called States 145 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 4: United Democracy Center actually wrote to forty one page memo 146 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 4: outlining the way that the current attorney general in Arizona 147 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 4: could go after Trump and his supporters. This is preposterous 148 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 4: to be off boarding prosecute orial discretion to hyperpartisan groups. 149 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 4: And as a result of that, I think the case 150 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 4: is going to get dismissed as well. It should. 151 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: And what are they accusing you of in Arizona? 152 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I had nothing to do with Arizona, 153 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 4: but they're accusing me of being part of a conspiracy 154 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 4: to have fake electoral votes sent to Washington, DC. You know, 155 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 4: even the indictment is full of of that talking point 156 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 4: narrative phrase. They weren't fake electors. They were contingent electors 157 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 4: based on the contingency of either litigation or legislative investigations 158 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 4: determining that somebody else had won the election, and if 159 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 4: they didn't meet and vote on the designated day, their 160 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 4: votes couldn't be counted even if it was later proved 161 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 4: that Trump had won the election. So this whole thing 162 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 4: is a concoct action to try and uh sign and 163 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 4: cower people away from raising questions about illegality and elections 164 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 4: we don't have. We don't have a free country if 165 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 4: we don't have free elections. It's pretty simple. And if 166 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 4: we're not allowed to talk about illegalities that occur in 167 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 4: the elections, did God help us? 168 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 2: What about Biden pardoning Hunter, Well, you know, anybody that 169 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 2: believed his repeated statements that he would never pardon, but 170 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 2: Hunter is either naive or stupid. 171 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 4: I mean, of course, he was going to pardon them 172 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 4: the day after the election, if if if he if 173 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 4: he'd won, I mean, if he if he'd lost, and 174 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 4: and you know, the day before he leaves office, if 175 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 4: he went, I mean, he was, he was going to pardon. 176 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 4: And there's no and anybody that thought otherwise just doesn't 177 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 4: know who this guy is throughout his whole career. But 178 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 4: it's a very interesting thing now because now that he's pardoned, 179 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 4: he can't be criminally prosecuted. And by the way, the 180 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 4: criminal prosecutions for the tax, the tax evasion, and the 181 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 4: gun thing, those were designed to take the heat off 182 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 4: the real serious criminal charges, which is to pay the 183 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 4: play scandal that he was involved with with his father, 184 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 4: and they wanted to keep that one under the rug, 185 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 4: under wraps, and so they bring these, you know, kind 186 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 4: of more modest charges against them. Say see, we're going 187 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 4: after him too. Well, now that he's been pardoned for 188 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 4: everything he did for the last ten years, he no 189 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 4: longer has the ability to claim the fifth Amendment defense 190 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 4: for investigations, and he can be called as a witness, 191 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 4: he can be investigated, he can be subpoenaed, he can 192 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 4: be interviewed by the FBI under the new FBI Director 193 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 4: Cash Totel. And if he doesn't come clean on the 194 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 4: monies that was coming out of Ukraine or coming out 195 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 4: of China or coming out of Russia, ten percent of 196 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 4: which was going to the big guy, remember that conversation. Yeah, 197 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 4: if he doesn't come clean on it, then he could 198 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 4: be charged with obstruction of justice. And if he goes 199 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 4: under oath on a witness stand and lies about it, 200 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 4: he could be charged with perjury. So the pardon may 201 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 4: actually have been a boon to the incoming Trump administration 202 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 4: if they're interested in pursuing this massive scandal because Hunter 203 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 4: Biden could no longer say I assert the fifth I 204 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 4: don't have to testify. He can't do that when he's 205 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 4: no longer subject to prosecution. 206 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: John Easpin, thank you for coming on again. 207 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 4: Oh it's my pleasure, John, good talking to me on 208 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 4: more often. There's a lots coming down the pike that 209 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 4: we should be talking about pretty regularly. 210 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 2: We will, we will, thank you, John, John Eastman and 211 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 2: he's the former dean at Chapman University's Law school who 212 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 2: was involved in coming up with the legal strategy for 213 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 2: Trump when the twenty twenty election happened. 214 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: Is the short way to explain it. 215 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from A six forty. 216 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 2: Tomorrow is the Pastathon and we'll be on live from 217 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 2: one to four at Katerina's Club raising money for Katerina's 218 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 2: Club at Chef Bruno's Anaheim White House Restaurant. 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Gavin Knew some 237 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 2: blue at one hundred billion dollar surplus, and so now 238 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 2: we have many billions of dollars a debt, and he 239 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: wants to waste twenty five million dollars for a special 240 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 2: legal defense fund to Trump proof California. He's asking the 241 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 2: state legislature to convene in a special session, in fact 242 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 2: that that is happening today, a special emergency session. He 243 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 2: wants them to approve twenty five million dollars of money 244 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 2: they don't have. We're we're in deficit spending here, and 245 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 2: he's do you know, do you know in the four 246 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 2: years that Trump was president, California's Department of Justice sued 247 00:13:55,880 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 2: Trump one hundred and twenty two times, spending forty two 248 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 2: million dollars on the lawsuits. And I don't know what. 249 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 2: I have no idea what the outcome of these lawsuits were. 250 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 2: So that's one hundred and twenty two lawsuits. Trump only 251 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 2: filed four lawsuits against the state, so it was one 252 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: twenty two to four, and three of them were over 253 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 2: sanctuary state laws. This is a tremendous, disgusting waste of money. 254 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 2: In the meantime, they don't want to help the federal 255 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 2: government enforce the immigration laws, and they want to resist 256 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 2: and they want to interfere with the enforcement of federal 257 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 2: immigration laws. And you should know this that there's nothing 258 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 2: Newsome or Karen Bass for that matter, can do about 259 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 2: immigration laws. They can choose not to assist, but they 260 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 2: can't stop the government. The federal government has absolute total 261 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 2: control over the border and any internal immigration policies. Like 262 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 2: every single time it goes before the Supreme Court, the 263 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 2: federal government wins. We have control, and it goes both ways. 264 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 2: If a state wants to be tougher than a federal policy, 265 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 2: it can't. States have lost those lawsuits, and if they 266 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 2: want to be more lenient or somehow interfere with a 267 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 2: federal immigration policy, they can't. And it seems clear that 268 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: they are going to send in a lot of the 269 00:15:54,720 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 2: immigration officers into the state and into Los Angeles, and 270 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 2: I think they're gonna use Los Angeles as an example 271 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 2: of who's in charge. And I think they're gonna show 272 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 2: Newsom who's in charge. But for Newsom to waste twenty 273 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 2: five million dollars on more stupid lawsuits just to prove 274 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: that he's the leader of the resistance. That's not what 275 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 2: we need. We're going to be paying an extra ninety 276 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 2: cents a gallon for gas next year. It's gonna cost 277 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 2: probably five point fifty for a gallon of gas. If 278 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 2: you're going to hold a special session, why don't you 279 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 2: hold a special session and remove a lot of those 280 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 2: taxes in fees that are sinking us in the oil industry. 281 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 2: That's where your responsibility should lie. Because we're paying two 282 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 2: dollars more a gallon of gas than most other states. 283 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 2: So you're gonna waste money on lawyers like the lawyers 284 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 2: don't have enough. In meantime, and I tell you where 285 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 2: it's going to hurt a lot of people, because there's 286 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 2: these back to work orders increase, where companies are telling 287 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 2: employees that you can't work at home anymore. You've got 288 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 2: to go back to the commute, and that's going to 289 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 2: be a huge expense for a lot of people. They're 290 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 2: going to come back to five point fifty a gallon 291 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 2: gas and it's entirely the governor's fault, entirely the fault 292 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 2: of the California Democratic Legislature. 293 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: More coming up. 294 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 295 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 5: six forty. 296 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 2: There's a fascinating story in the USA today. Do you 297 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 2: know who's being called xenophone, xenophobic and racist now the 298 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 2: Mexican people, because it turns out, increasingly in the last 299 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 2: few years, the Mexicans are fed up with all the 300 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 2: illegal immigration in their country because there's been immigrants from 301 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy nations that have passed through. 302 00:17:58,119 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: Mexico to get to the US. 303 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 2: Not all of them pass all the way through, and 304 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 2: they're in Mexico and they're living there in public in 305 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 2: the streets. Some of them are being held by the 306 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 2: Mexican government depending on how much they wanted to help 307 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 2: out Joe Biden during the election cycle. And there's certainly 308 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 2: going to be more illegal immigrants held back in Mexico 309 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 2: now with Trump in power. But the Mexicans don't like 310 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:34,719 Speaker 2: all the outsiders. And so there's this left wing organization 311 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 2: called ox Spam and they have done a study on 312 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 2: Mexicans feelings regarding immigration policy, and they found out that 313 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 2: the public is now increasingly racist and xenophobic. 314 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: Remember when it was Americans who are. 315 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 2: Racist and xenophobic because they wouldn't accept large quantities of 316 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 2: Mexican immigrants. Well, now the Mexicans are racist and di 317 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 2: xenophobic because they don't like who's coming into their country. 318 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 2: I don't think you know, people in government and in 319 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 2: the media don't understand that it's basic human nature to 320 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 2: want to be living amongst your own and are suspicious 321 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 2: of outsiders and people with differences. And if there's natural assimilation, 322 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 2: people can tolerate it. But when there's some overwhelming surge, 323 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 2: people are going to get angry. They don't want their 324 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 2: lives disrupted that way. It says here that in USA 325 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 2: today that Trump may be finding support in an unlikely 326 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 2: corner among Mexicans themselves. But the migration has changed. There's 327 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 2: now Central Americans, Haitians, Venezuelans, and then people from all 328 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,719 Speaker 2: over the globe. And now you have seventy percent of Mexicans. 329 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 2: Seventy percent they say the migrant flows into their country 330 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 2: are excessive. More than half the respondents say migration has 331 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 2: a negative impact on the economy and on culture, or 332 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 2: at least there's nothing positive about it. Forty percent think 333 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 2: migration should be limited or prohibited. There's now flare ups 334 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 2: of violence all over Mexico because if you go to 335 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 2: Mexico City, they have a plaza right in the heart 336 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 2: of the historic center, and now there's people living in 337 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 2: the plaza. Migrants were living in the rain and filth 338 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 2: from their camping tents and makeshift lean tos. You know, 339 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 2: parts of Mexico City are really nice and wealthy, and 340 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 2: suddenly you have these migrants from god knows what countries, 341 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 2: and they were waiting for appointments at the US border, 342 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 2: or they were waiting for their chance to run across illegally. 343 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 2: If you went to this city, you found venezuelan Is 344 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 2: waiting in line for a free breakfast in a Catholic church, 345 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 2: Haitians speaking Creole or washing their children in the street, 346 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 2: and an Angolan woman was boiling a chicken over an 347 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 2: open fire right in the city plaza. I guess you 348 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 2: got little naked children getting washed by mom, and people 349 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 2: boiling chickens, and it says the Mexican neighbors who lived 350 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 2: near the plaza have grown frustrated anger boiled over. Earlier 351 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 2: this year, police had to respond to fights between locals 352 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 2: and Haitians. Two people got hurt. According to one analyst 353 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 2: at Rice University, people are supportive of immigration if immigrants 354 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 2: are in a shelter, locked away and don't affect their 355 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 2: day to day life. As soon as they feel there's 356 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 2: interference with their daily activities, then the underlying racism, prejudice, 357 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 2: and xenophobia become a parent. Boy, is that classic? 358 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 4: You get? 359 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: What is the name of this guy? I should name 360 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: him specifically. 361 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 2: He's Tony Pyan, executive director for the Center for the 362 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 2: US and Mexico at Rice University. 363 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: And this is the attitudes. 364 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 2: No, we have the right here in US and Mexico 365 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 2: to live peacefully in our neighborhoods and not deal with 366 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 2: all the problems that poor immigrants bring in to a neighborhood. 367 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 2: We have no, we have no obligation to deal with it. 368 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 2: That is not our problem. And if we're happy with 369 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 2: the people who live in our neighborhood, for whatever reason, 370 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 2: you like diversity, you go live in a diverse neighborhood 371 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 2: you liked, you know, a single culture, you live in 372 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 2: that kind of neighborhood. But it's up to us, and 373 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 2: it's up to the Mexican citizens too. You can't force 374 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 2: people to deal with immigration and then immediately what's. 375 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: The go to? 376 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 2: What's the go to these people? Well, it's the triple 377 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 2: crown there. You're racist, you're prejudiced, and your xenophobic. Now 378 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 2: the Mexicans are bad people. They were good people yesterday, 379 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 2: but they're bad people today now they're acting like Americans. No, 380 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 2: it's because people want to live with their own kind 381 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 2: and not be force fed poor immigrants who don't have housing, 382 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 2: who don't have money, who don't have jobs and skills. 383 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 2: If you cram people like that into existing neighborhoods, you're 384 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 2: going to get nothing but pushback. It doesn't matter what 385 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 2: country you're in. This is going on in Europe too. 386 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 2: People in England are upset, Germany, Sweden, all over the place. 387 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 2: People don't want outsiders, and they don't want outsiders problems, 388 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 2: and they don't want to pay for outsiders problems. That's 389 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 2: entirely normal and natural, and it's only these educated idiots 390 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 2: at universities and in politics and in media. Yeah, who 391 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 2: insist Otherwise, of course, none of these people would take 392 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 2: in any of these immigrants. You think this guy at 393 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 2: Rice University is gonna take a woman in who's boiling 394 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 2: a chicken in a driveway. 395 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 1: No, he's not. 396 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 2: He'd called the police. There's such fakes, and there's such 397 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 2: phonies on top of it. So it turns out Mexico 398 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 2: is going through exactly the same thing that the United 399 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 2: States went through. I mean, it's the greatest irony in 400 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 2: the world. And you have a lot of Hispanic residents, 401 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 2: as we've found out here in the US, largely Mexican, 402 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 2: well Mexican, and they don't want the new immigrants coming 403 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 2: in either, and they don't want their jobs compromised. And 404 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 2: that's why you had such a huge Latino population voting 405 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 2: for Trump is they could see unchecked immigration is no 406 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 2: good because many of them were legal immigrants. And you're 407 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 2: gonna see Trump was an earthquake. You're going to see 408 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 2: more of these earthquakes. This whole era of open borders 409 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 2: and free immigration is over, and it looks like the 410 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 2: last dead enders are going to be politicians in California, 411 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 2: people like Newsom and Karen Bass. They're going to be 412 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 2: the last ones declaring sanctuary, the last ones filing lawsuits, 413 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 2: when much of the rest of the country, much of Mexico, 414 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 2: many of the Mexican immigrants in the US, are saying enough, 415 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 2: party's over, We're done. This policy is absurd, and who 416 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 2: do we have left? 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The big fun We've been talking throughout 435 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 2: the show about Joe Biden, after denying over and over 436 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 2: and over again in his idiot press secretary Karine Jean Pierre, 437 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 2: denying and lying over and over again, Biden was never 438 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 2: was never going to pardon Hunter. No no, no, no, uh. 439 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 2: And this is worth playing. A compilation that we put 440 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 2: together first of Biden asking if he'd pardon Hunter, it's 441 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 2: pretty clear. 442 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 1: Let me ask you. 443 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 2: Will you accept the jury's outcome, their verdict, no matter 444 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 2: what it is. 445 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: Yes? And have you ruled out a pardon for your son, Yes, 446 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: you have. 447 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 6: I'm extremely proud of my son Hunter. He has overcome 448 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 6: an addiction. He is He's one of the brightest, most 449 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 6: decent men I know. And I am satisfied that I'm 450 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 6: not going to do anything I said. I advide by 451 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 6: the jury decision and I will do that and I 452 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 6: will not partner him. 453 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 2: So three times we have on tape there and there 454 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 2: were others. He's not gonna garden Hunter. Then this is 455 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 2: great White House practiced. Serry Karein Press Secretary Kaarin John Pierre. 456 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 2: Listen to how many times she says no about the 457 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 2: pardon question. From a presidential perspective, is there any possibility 458 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 2: that the president would end up pardoning his son? 459 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: Well, I just said no. 460 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 4: I just answered the President would not pardon or community 461 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 4: sentences for his son Hunter. I want to make sure 462 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,719 Speaker 4: that that is not going to change over the next 463 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 4: six months. The President's say. 464 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: It's still a no, It's still an it will always 465 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: be enough. 466 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 4: It's still a no. 467 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 5: It will be a no. 468 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 7: It is a no. 469 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 1: And I don't have anything else to add. People he 470 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: pardoned his son No. 471 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 8: His son Hunter is also up for being sentenced next month. 472 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 3: Does the President have any intention of pardoning him? 473 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 8: We've been asked that question multiple times. 474 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: Our answer stands, which. 475 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 9: Is now President Biden says that if he's not going 476 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 9: to pardon his son Hunter, is he going to ask Donald. 477 00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 4: Trump to do that. 478 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,239 Speaker 8: I don't have anything else to share about that. 479 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 4: I'm not going to get to go down a rabbit 480 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 4: hole on this. 481 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 8: I've been very clear. The President's been very clear when 482 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 8: we've been asked this question. 483 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 2: Do you don't how many times just in that little 484 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 2: montage that was less than a minute, nine times she 485 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 2: said no. 486 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: Nine times. I was wondering what you were doing with 487 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: that highlighter. 488 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 2: I was just doing hashbarks here, just counting the nose. 489 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 2: So she had to be asked about Biden now pardoning Hunter. 490 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 2: Let's hear Karie Jean Pierre again. 491 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 9: You have said repeatedly yourself since the election, the President 492 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 9: has said for months, no pardon was coming. 493 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: Listen to this. 494 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 9: I just I wanted to ask you. Could those statements 495 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 9: now be seen as lies of the American people? Is 496 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 9: there really credibility is you here given now this announcement. 497 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 8: First of all, one of the things that the president 498 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 8: always believes is to be truthful to the American people, 499 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 8: something that he always truly believes. And if you see 500 00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 8: the end of his I assume that you've read his 501 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 8: statement and you look at the end of that statement, 502 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 8: and he actually says that in the first line of 503 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 8: the last paragraph and respects the thinking and how the 504 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 8: American people will actually see this in his decision making. 505 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,719 Speaker 8: What is she said, he would encourage everyone to this statement. 506 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 8: I think he lays out his thought process. He lays 507 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 8: out how he came to this decision. He came to 508 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 8: this decision this weekend. So let's be very clear about that. 509 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 8: He says it himself, it's in his voice. He said 510 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 8: he came to this decision this weekend, and he said 511 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 8: he wrestled. 512 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: With us and because of the Justice Simpson. 513 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 8: But he also believes that the war politics infected the 514 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 8: process and led to a miscarriage of justice. 515 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 2: He actually committed these crimes. In fact, he pleaded guilty 516 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 2: to the tax charges. I mean, his son went before 517 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 2: the judge and pleaded guilty, and everybody wondered why he 518 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 2: did it, because he didn't negotiate a plea deal, which 519 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 2: presumably he would have gotten less jail time. Well, he 520 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 2: didn't do it because he knew his dad was going 521 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 2: to pardon him. And Biden and Biden's brother and Hunter 522 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 2: were all up to their necks in shady business deals 523 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 2: selling influence to Joe. 524 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: That's obvious. 525 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 2: There's money hidden somewhere and they all profited from it. 526 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 2: That was the dirty family business. All right, we got 527 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 2: Conway coming up here. 528 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 7: Hey, no, hey, no, all right, we're back on the air. 529 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,479 Speaker 1: I think solong. Oh that's right. 530 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 7: You weren't here last week, that's right. As a matter 531 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 7: of fact, somebody. 532 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 10: Had texted me, they said, aren't you nervous to take. 533 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: The day off? 534 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 7: Like, oh, yeah, yeah, but. 535 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: Scheduled thing. 536 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 10: But we've got the big Catarina's Club is tomorrow. You're 537 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 10: gonna be down there, yes, Bill, It'll start with Amy 538 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 10: King and then Bill Handle Yeah, almost almost called her 539 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 10: Amy Pool, an old friend of mine, Amy King, then 540 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 10: Bill Handle, Gary and Shannon you yeah. And by the way, 541 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 10: that this is the first one without without your partner, 542 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 10: isn't it the second first or second first? 543 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: First? 544 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 10: Okay because he've retired shortly after, right, Caterina's Club, yes, 545 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 10: last year, and then uh, we'll come on, and then 546 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 10: Moe Kelly. So we're gonna raise a lot of money 547 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 10: at the White House in Anaheim, So come on down, man. 548 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: That'd be great. 549 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 7: And then we've got a guy came on coming on 550 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 7: named Adam. 551 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 10: Schomer and his dad like secretly saved hundreds and thousands 552 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 10: and thousands of comics and they found him like in 553 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 10: a vault downstairs perfectly, uh, you know, with air conditioned 554 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 10: and and and in these drive vaults where they're all 555 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 10: pret detected by the elements. And this thing is worth 556 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 10: millions and millions, maybe tens of millions of dollars, and 557 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 10: so he's coming to come on to explain. Oh wow, yeah, 558 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 10: it's and he did a movie called Selling Superman that's 559 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 10: supposed to be great. 560 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 7: So we'll get into. 561 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 10: That a little bit of the Biden pardon. But I 562 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 10: think we all saw that coming. It wasn't a shocked No, 563 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 10: nobody was shocked. It's just fun to play the denials 564 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 10: over and over again. Yeah, it's nobody is shocked by 565 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,479 Speaker 10: that kind of crap. You know, like if you were 566 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 10: the CEO of I don't know, pick a company, Taco Bell, 567 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 10: and you said for two years, I'm not going to 568 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 10: do this, I'm not going to do this, this, this, this, 569 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 10: and then you did it, they'd fire you for them. 570 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: Yeah right, Well, in a way they have, I guess 571 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: they have. Yeah, he's on his way out. 572 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 10: But but man, that was a sweeping pardon that covers everything. 573 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, everything, any crime he could have conceivably committed for 574 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 2: the last ten years. 575 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 10: But it includes future crimes because if they had started 576 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 10: in that ten year period, they're including Yeah, so is 577 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 10: there any kind of bribes that were paid off in 578 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 10: the future as long as it started in that ten 579 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:08,280 Speaker 10: year period, he's. 580 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 2: Anny business with Ukraine or China or anywhere else. Wow, 581 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 2: all that money that they they ran off with. 582 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 7: Good to have a dad on top man. Yeah, man, 583 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:17,839 Speaker 7: what a life. 584 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 10: I'll bet I'll bet you anything that he went to 585 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 10: his dad and said, you're gonna pardon me or I'm 586 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 10: gonna start talking about our family business. How about that 587 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 10: happened and he might still Yeah, you know pay per view. 588 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: Kiways up, big dog. 589 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 2: We got Crozier with the news live in the KFI 590 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 2: twenty four hour newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to The 591 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 2: John Cobalt Show podcast. 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