WEBVTT - Forward Thinking Tech At CES 2016 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:07.160 Brought to you by Toyota. Let's go places. Welcome to 0:00:07.360 --> 0:00:14.320 Forward Thinking. He there, and welcome back to Forward Thinking, 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:17.560 the podcast that looks at the future and says your 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:20.320 face to face with the man who sold the world. 0:00:20.840 --> 0:00:24.040 I'm Jonathan Strickland, I'm Lauren foc Oban, and I'm Joe McCormick. 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:26.440 That's kind of melancholy note to begin on. But we 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:30.560 are back. Yeah, wait, wait till you hear the quote 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:34.960 for the next one. It seemed okay. I I took 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:36.960 it hard, but no, we are back. This is a 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:40.400 moment of celebration for us. We are so pleased to 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:43.879 be recording new episodes. This isn't an update to an 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:46.839 old episode. This is brand new. Yeah, we had to 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:50.559 like do research and like I had to go to 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:54.840 Las Vegas. Oh man, that is an intense podcast episode, Jonathan, 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:58.440 be straight with me. Sure, how futuristic were the buffets? 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:02.200 I only no, eight I ate it to buffets, neither 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:05.600 of which felt particularly futuristic. Although I started to I 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:09.040 started to question my recent decisions after I started eating them, 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:12.240 so I was really reflecting on the past, essentially the 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:15.200 specific moments that led up to me going to a buffet, 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:17.960 but I didn't really think so much about the future, 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:19.960 which was pretty evident o the way I was eating. 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:23.679 Question number two about Las Vegas, is anybody working on 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:27.199 the packet bread from the Force awakens? As far as 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:31.240 I can tell, no. But but keep in mind that 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:34.679 we're talking about CS sixteen in this episode, and some 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:38.919 of the forward thinking technology I saw there CS is 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:41.800 is enormous. I mean, the number that was thrown around 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:44.280 for two thousand fifteen I don't know that this is accurate, 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:48.080 was that it had two point two million square feet 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:52.520 of exhibit space across the Las Vegas Convention Center of 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:55.000 the Sands, as well as a bunch of hotel suites. 0:01:55.720 --> 0:02:00.360 So it's just normal and ud uh like vendors shows 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:04.800 close to close to four thousand, yeah, because it's and 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:06.800 so some of them are huge, Like some of those 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:10.880 booths are enormous and you could fit like forty booths 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:13.480 in one of the big ones like Intel or Sony. 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:16.160 In the future, we will have booths that take up 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:19.280 entire building. That's kind of what it feels like. And 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:21.679 of course, not all of the technology on display there 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:25.120 is particularly forward thinking. Some of it is just you know, 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:30.560 the latest in stereo systems, and it's not that all that, right, 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:33.360 It's it's not it's not that that technology is is 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:36.280 subbar or anything like that. It's just not the kind 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:39.240 of stuff we associate with. All Right, what's sort of 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:43.960 the groundbreaking pioneering tech out? Yeah, what's going to drive 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:55.799 are our very lives over the next forty years. Yeah, 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:58.440 and we wanted exactly twenty to forty years. Oh, it's 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:01.880 good to be back, but also we wanted to uh, 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:03.760 you know, I want to stress this is this is 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:07.400 a show about consumer technology. So you wouldn't expect to 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:12.280 see tech that is like the super prototype cutting edge. 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:15.480 You know, we're ten years away from seeing this implemented 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:18.600 kind of stuff. You tend to see stuff that in general, 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:23.280 you know, you're talking about possibly a lot I imagine 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:26.840 there's not like a DARPA booth. Strangely enough, you would 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:30.880 be incorrect only in the sense that DARPA has a 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:34.960 presence at CES, because often they end up being uh, 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:37.120 you know, people who end up working for DARPA also 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:40.839 end up working on these other projects, like Toyota hasment 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:44.240 and stuff. Yeah, Toyota had a couple of former DARPA 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:51.840 UM executives joined their artificial intelligence research facility for example. Uh, yeah, 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:54.960 that's really interesting stuff. And ASSA has a booth there 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:58.400 too actually at c Yes, okay, so actually what you're 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:00.839 saying here is that there's so much going on there 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:03.520 that you don't know for sure that there wasn't an 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:07.640 entire wing devoted to the bread from the Force Awaken there. 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:12.320 There could have been. I did not witness it myself. 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:15.160 But then usually when I get home, the first thing 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:16.760 that happens is I start looking at some of the 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:18.920 footage from c e S and it looks like it's 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:20.599 a totally different show than the one I went to, 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:23.440 just because my experience was so limited. I just want 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:25.919 to assure you listeners, by the way, who might be 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:28.520 worrying if you haven't seen The Force Awakens yet, the 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:31.240 bread is not a spoiler. This is no major platform now. 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:35.920 The bread doesn't spoil. That's what makes it futuristic, all right. 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:38.320 So we wanted to talk about the actual technology that 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:42.119 I did witness and read up on as well while 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:45.160 at CS. So these are these are just some examples 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:48.039 of some of the stuff I saw personally. Keep in mind, 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:50.680 this is not an exhaustive list, it doesn't include all 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:53.080 the other things that I didn't get around to seeing. So, 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:55.720 for example, I don't have any A R or VR 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:58.800 stuff really listed here, and that's because I never got 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:00.680 a chance to go to that part of the show floor. 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:03.520 That's how big this show is. And I didn't even 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:05.479 get a chance to go to where all the drones 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:08.960 and robots are because I was running short on time. 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:11.680 But I guess the lines for the A R and 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:14.440 V R stuff for really long they were, And in fact, 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:17.599 I think I might be mistaken, but I think Oculus 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:21.120 decided to have a reservation's only approach, so you had 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:23.800 to actually book a time to go and get a 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:27.760 demonstration of the Oculus technology. I might be incorrect about 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:31.080 that because I never went to see it. But one 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:33.200 thing I did get to see was Intel's booth. I 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:35.040 mentioned them earlier, and one of the reasons I think 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:37.760 Intel is really interesting when you go to C E. 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:41.320 S is Intel is known for making the sensors and 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:45.480 processors that make other technology work right. They don't tend 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:47.880 to be the company you would think of for a 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:52.080 finished product. They make the guts of consumer products exactly, 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:54.120 so most of the stuff you see on display at 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:57.480 Intel is actually the representation of a partnership with some 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:02.719 other company or multiple companies, where the the insides are 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:06.880 Intel powered. And they showed off a couple of different 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:11.880 things that were implemented in different ways. One of them 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:15.039 was Intel CURI and this is it looks like just 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:18.560 a little microprocessor. It's essentially a very simple computer on 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:21.159 a chip system. It's about the size and shape of 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:24.719 a button. Yeah, it's tiny, tiny, and it has uh 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:29.320 six axis accelerometers and gyroscopes in there, as well as 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:33.159 a means of communicating over Bluetooth low energy protocols. So 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:36.320 it it SIPs it power has a tiny little battery 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:40.520 that is dedicated just to this device. And this is 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:43.760 something you would embed in other things like a wearable 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:47.080 technology or as was the case in some of the 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:51.400 demonstrations um sporting equipment. So we saw it in like 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:54.440 snowboards and bicycles. And one of the things that could 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:58.160 do is actually measure rotation in real time. So imagine 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:00.719 you're watching the X games, like the Way or X Games, 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:03.359 and you see a snowboarder leap into the air and 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:06.159 start doing all those crazy twisty turny things. You could 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:10.280 get real time update on exactly what sort of maneuvers 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:14.360 that person was doing, and including like to the degree, 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:19.360 and so it could be like, I'm sorry, that looked 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:21.640 like a ten eighty, but it was not. This is 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:25.280 snowboarding ten sixty and you have failed that. You could 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:28.080 get that specific Yeah. I don't know that that's going 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:29.680 to get to the point of judging, but you could 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:32.000 at least, you know, as someone watching it, you could 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:34.760 have a live feed that was just giving you the 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:40.240 data from the Intel Cury PROCESSORB. We we always use 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:46.440 technology to judge better. That's shade is important, right, I 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:50.200 mean you can't bribe the sensor. No, No, it's it's 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:54.040 not subjective. It is it is actually quantifying something that 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:57.440 before we would just sort of say that was very impressive. 0:07:57.480 --> 0:07:59.040 Now we can say we can say exactly to what 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:02.880 degree that was impressive. Now I have a question. You 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:05.560 said it's called the Curi spelled c U R I 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:07.760 E I. I assume is that named after the Curies, 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:11.600 like Marie and Pierre. That was my assumption. It's usually 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:15.520 Intel tends to name a lot of their products after places, 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:19.800 uh specifically places that are around Intel's headquarters. But in 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:23.200 this case, I think it was specifically after the curies. 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:26.800 But that's my that's my guests. I didn't actually ask 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:28.720 anyone there. I was too busy looking at some of 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:32.360 the other implementations, like they had them embedded in gloves 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:36.400 and then they would play air guitar and get actual 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:39.800 music out of it there at the Intel press conference, 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:41.880 which I did not attend. I only watched the video. 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:47.200 It's just as awkward as it sounds. Imagine an Intel 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:52.400 executive coming out wearing a do rag and and having 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:54.920 these gloves on and then playing either air guitar or 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:58.280 air drums and you'd actually get uh, you know, music 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:02.520 playing out of this and then looks like he's having 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:06.920 some kind of episode possibly that I I that would 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:11.120 not be outside the realm of plausibility. Should you watch 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:14.120 this video that you would have that reaction. Also, it's 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:18.680 just there were a couple of grandiose comments that uh, 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:22.040 you know, kind of like not quite to the extent 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:24.960 of music will change forever, or we don't need we 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:28.439 don't need guitars anymore, but but kind of going and 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:32.000 and like you could see an implication there. This is 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:33.520 one of those things where you think, really, I mean 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:36.000 it's impressive. It's kind of cool and fun. I could 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:39.760 see that being an interesting implementation of that. But there 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:43.280 were other uh demos as well. They actually want I 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:46.360 got to try. They had these bracelets with l E 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:48.040 D s in them, and the l d s would 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:50.640 light up whenever you were using the bracelet properly. They 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:56.080 had this big curved display. They had digital little fish 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:59.080 on them, and when you would waive the bracelet around 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:01.959 in front of it, it capture the fish's attention. You 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:03.400 can get a little school of fish, and you can 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:07.080 make them spiral around and direct them to different parts. 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:10.080 And they had about, you know, a dozen people are 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:12.400 so lined up on this thing, all kind of stealing 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:15.240 each other's fish. And it was again just a demonstration 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:18.920 that this thing could fit into really small stuff. I mean, 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:21.760 it wasn't a practical demonstration of the power of this. 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:25.000 It was more of a practical demonstration of it's so 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:28.760 small and self it's it's like self contained in the 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:30.840 sense that it's pretty much everything you need to do 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:36.120 some basic control. That that was really the power of 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:39.360 that demonstration. Yeah. Yeah, on a more practical level, I 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:42.679 suspect that it would be implemented into like the fitness 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:46.320 tracking technology kind of stuff, partially because the tech that 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:49.840 comes from Curry comes from the company Basis, which Intel 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:54.120 brought back in March. Um and uh I read this interview, 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:56.880 this really good interview with Intel's vice president Mike Bell 0:10:57.240 --> 0:11:02.240 in the Internet publication Alpha. I had never heard. I 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:06.400 had never heard of before. Interesting, it apparently exists. And yeah, 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:09.520 he was talking about how they're they're working on making 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:13.679 technology like this adaptive to every individual who use it. 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:15.440 Who uses it, you know, like like learning what it 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:19.320 looks like when you Joe go running or play racquetball 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:21.480 or are sleeping. You don't want to know what that 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:26.839 looks like, Well maybe Intel does. Maybe maybe you want 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:29.760 statistics on on how well you're running, how how how 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:32.000 your body is moving, all of your heartbeat kind of 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:34.480 you know, all that sort of stuff. Maybe in what 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:38.160 point of any given physical activity do you see your 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:41.960 physical performance start to drop? That kind of stuff. Yeah. Yeah, 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:44.440 lots of people these days are min maxing their own 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:47.080 bodies and in fitness tracker kind of ways, which I 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:54.880 work it's but but you know, he was talking about 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:59.280 how how for for a lot of this technology today 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:02.880 it's geared towards the average user, that there's really no 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:05.079 such thing as the average user. Of course, we're all 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:07.800 in our own ways outliers, and so you know, making 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:11.040 something that can adapt and can learn what you do 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:14.240 is a lot more useful to any given human. Oh yeah, 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:17.640 that's a good point. Now. Sometimes I wonder about, say, 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:21.439 the the fitness tracker on my phone. It has an 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:24.559 estimate of how many steps you took today, but that's 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:28.079 got to be based on some averaging and some estimating 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:31.400 because because it doesn't really know for sure. It's not 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:33.920 like it's a pometer. What if my gate is kind 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:38.040 of weird or what I I just don't know how 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:40.959 accurate it is. Yeah, yeah, no, that makes perfect sense. 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:44.440 I mean, especially if it's something where it's just estimating 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:47.800 based upon the speed and distance that you are traveling. 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:49.880 So in other words, if there's not a predometer, if 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:53.720 there's nothing like if the accelerometer isn't trying to gauge 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:57.640 an actual step, then you could do something like jump 0:12:57.679 --> 0:13:00.360 on a moving sidewalk, and just because of the speed 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:02.360 and distance, it's going to say, oh, well that that 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:05.200 includes those those are steps too. Yeah. Oh I like 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:09.080 it when I know sometimes it's wrong because occasionally it 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:12.320 tells me that I bicycled for fifteen minutes today and 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:16.240 I have not ridden a bicycle. Yeah. Yeah, There are 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:19.600 a lot of other potential applications of this. Again, this 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:22.160 was really a proof of concept in the sense that 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:26.400 Intel could say, you probably have ideas of what you 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:29.000 want to do. We make the stuff that makes your 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:32.480 ideas possible. And another example of that was their Real 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:35.800 Sense technology, which is pretty similar to the way the 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:40.479 connect sensor works for the Xbox. It actually contains three cameras. 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:42.720 It's a system that uses three cameras. One of them 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:45.480 is in the optical spectrum. It's like a ten eighty 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:49.040 high definition camera. One is an infrared camera, and one's 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:51.800 more of an infrared projector. So the idea being that 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:55.360 using these this combination, you can create a system that's 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:59.640 able to sense objects in depth and um and so 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:03.160 you could put it into a laptop. They had several 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:07.080 laptops on display where that was part of the laptop camera, 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:09.280 so it wasn't just a regular camera. You could also 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:11.440 use it for gesture controls and that kind of thing. 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:13.760 I've I've also read that Intel is looking to use 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:16.439 real Sense to let your your device, your laptop, your phone, 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:19.720 your tablet, whatever, uh, watch your reactions to what you're 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:22.560 experiencing on that device, like whether you're happy or sad 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:25.840 or board. And I'm not sure why. Yeah, let me 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:28.040 let me get back to that, because there's there's something 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:29.800 specific I want to talk to you guys about. Didn't 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:31.360 put it in the notes, but it's called smart me 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:36.000 up or they might even smart me app. But it's 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:41.120 it's uh, it's it's it. Maybe it was a it 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:44.840 was an app with facial recognition technology that also could 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:47.600 recognize mood. I'll get back to that because it's similar 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:50.440 to what you're saying, Lauren, Okay, alright, But but you 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:52.840 could also put this another technology to One of the 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:56.800 examples they had was the hover butler um, and the 0:14:56.840 --> 0:15:01.760 hover butler is essentially, think one of those personal transportation 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:06.080 devices that often are called hoverboards, which Joe, I know 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:09.800 you object to the term hoverboard for something that uses 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:13.680 wheels to get so, but this is a hover butler. 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:17.360 It's a hover butler catch on fire. It did not 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:21.360 in the presentation, and and considering who is behind it, 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:24.440 I would suspect it would not catch on fire. But 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:27.680 it's a it's a fire butler. It's like it's bring 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:33.440 so if they called it Prometheus, but it's a uh, 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:36.960 it's it's like a hoverboard, so you can stand on 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:39.560 it and wheel around just as you would with one 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:42.120 of those. But it has um kind of a little 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:46.320 central post that extends up a little bit from the 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:50.840 base and you can convert it into a robot. And 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:55.000 so the the the actual stem will switch a little 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:56.760 bit and a little digital screen will pop out and 0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:59.360 these cute little eyes are there and it can talk 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:01.360 to you. You could even have it do things like 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:03.480 answer the door and stuff, or at least go and 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:05.960 look at who's at the door. There are cameras embedded 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:07.680 in it, so you can get live streaming video and 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:11.520 it uses real sense to uh to detect objects in 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:14.720 its environment and maneuver around them. Um. And my favorite 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:17.360 part was when they added arms to it. There was 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:21.160 a segment on the back that you could unscrew and 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:26.920 then you could plug in a physical extension to this robot. 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:29.200 And in this case, they plugged in a physical extension 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:31.960 that were a pair of arms, and uh, they let 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:34.600 the robot knows, okay, robot, you have arms now, say 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:37.040 these are my arms, and it lifts its arms up 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:40.400 and then goes awesome. It was in the demo and 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:46.760 everyone was like, oh uh yeah a do you guys 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:49.360 just have her butler? What a time to be alive? 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:53.000 Am I? Right? Yeah? Someone someone named a product that, 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:56.480 but be the people who named a product that. It's 0:16:56.480 --> 0:16:59.680 a project from Segway and Segways new owners nine butt. 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:03.080 So you guys, Segway is still a thing, which is 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:06.160 why I would expect it probably doesn't burst into flay 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:09.240 hold on to Segway not make the other hoverboards. No, 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:12.840 oh I see, yeah, In fact, there there's a different, 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:16.240 totally different thing. Yeah, the hoverboards stuff like there actually 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:19.840 are some some patent disputes about whether some of them 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:22.719 have infringed upon Segways patents. There have actually been some 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:27.120 some threatens, threats of lawsuits. But the interesting thing here, 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:29.280 and Lauren, I know you can talk about this a 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:33.359 little bit too, is that while you, you know, you 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:35.359 might think, oh, that's a very cute idea, this idea 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:39.720 of a of a robot slash personal transportation device that's adorable, 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:44.760 they're also looking at involving other parties by making it 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:49.080 an open platform both from software and hardware and UM 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:51.160 and I remember, like right here in the our notes, 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:54.880 you've got a little bit about UM using Android operating 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:57.800 systems in order to do that. Yea, yeah, until so 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:01.000 far has been pairing these technology these with Android and 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:04.119 trying to encourage independent developers to really dive in and 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:07.000 find new cool ways to to use it, like like 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:09.200 you were saying, yea, and the same thing with the 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:12.840 arm extension, I was talking about that's just one potential 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:15.920 hardware piece that you could attach to this thing. What 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:20.479 are you thinking articulated spider legs, right, or tentacles you know, 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:25.080 or just dart guns, fire extinguisher extensions to put out 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:33.520 your hoverboard fires right right? So uncle? Nope, yeah, um, 0:18:33.600 --> 0:18:37.920 why did you teach me to love? Uh? Yeah, might 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:40.520 be we might be a little loopy after our long hiatus. 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:44.640 But yeah, it was again like meant to sort of 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:48.880 demonstrate the potential I possibly with the hover butler more 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:53.160 of an actual potential product. I don't know who would 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:57.080 who that market is, like, don't you know it's it's 0:18:57.119 --> 0:19:00.480 combining those you know, people with limited mobility or or 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:02.879 any time that you've got a you know that that 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:05.320 like office robotic avatar that we've talked about a few 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:07.639 times on the show. Like being able to plug that 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:10.760 into something like that would allow not having your your 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:14.879 office avatar just bump into doors continually. Must be like 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:17.199 way less embarrassing. I think it would be hilarious to 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:19.280 be fired by the hover butler because it would be 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:23.520 so adorable. You couldn't be mad about Yes, back up 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:26.399 your things. It doesn't come across like that at all. 0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:29.119 The voice is so cute, but well, I mean, I 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:31.520 think the cuteness has got to be a factor there. Right, 0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:33.720 you're asking who would be interested in I mean, there's 0:19:33.720 --> 0:19:39.600 gonna be a certain audience for things that are robotic novelties. Yeah, 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:42.840 it's just also I imagine and I don't know what 0:19:42.920 --> 0:19:44.920 the price would be for this particular thing, but I 0:19:44.920 --> 0:19:48.520 would imagine it would be pretty expensive. I mean, you're 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:52.200 you're talking about Segway technology, and Segways were not known 0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:58.119 for being cheap um. They were really known for anything 0:19:56.320 --> 0:20:02.760 other than Yeah, I remember, I still distinctly remember the 0:20:02.840 --> 0:20:07.080 day when Good Morning America unveiled what it was, because 0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:09.480 before that they called it either Project Ginger or it 0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:12.240 and then they had the reveal that this is the segue. 0:20:12.760 --> 0:20:19.560 And I remember I was sitting there thinking what this um? 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:22.080 But you know it was and your reaction was thus 0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:25.040 the whole world. I did not intend to be a 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:27.919 pioneer in that space, but there were a lot of 0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:30.120 other things I got to see as well. So that 0:20:30.200 --> 0:20:34.040 was in the central Hall of the Las Vegas Convention Center. 0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:37.080 That's where a lot of the really big companies like 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:40.280 Sony and Panasonic and things like that are there. And 0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:43.240 Intel was is always in the central hall. But the 0:20:43.280 --> 0:20:45.320 next one that I looked at was over in the 0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:48.199 South hall of the convention Center. And this was one 0:20:48.240 --> 0:20:50.159 of those things that I would have totally missed. I 0:20:50.200 --> 0:20:53.560 would have overlooked it except a friend of mine I 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:56.800 as actor of of c NET, hadn't mentioned he had 0:20:56.880 --> 0:20:59.520 heard something about it and gave me the heads up 0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:01.439 and so put on our list of things we had 0:21:01.480 --> 0:21:04.240 to check out. I'm so glad because I'm so excited 0:21:04.240 --> 0:21:07.080 about this one. Yeah, this is a General Financial which 0:21:07.280 --> 0:21:12.720 is a long term care insurance company. And you might think, well, 0:21:12.800 --> 0:21:15.280 why are they at ce S. I mean, it's and 0:21:15.320 --> 0:21:19.240 what exactly is long term care insurance? Well, it's insurance 0:21:19.280 --> 0:21:21.280 that you would in our into you would hold a 0:21:21.320 --> 0:21:24.560 policy for in order to get reimbursed for long term 0:21:24.600 --> 0:21:28.920 care for people who cannot care for themselves, typically the elderly, 0:21:28.960 --> 0:21:32.280 but not necessarily just the elderly, but for services like 0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:36.639 assisted living, so feeding and bathing and dressing and that 0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:38.879 sort of stuff. That these are services that you have 0:21:38.960 --> 0:21:41.760 to pay for. Well, this kind of insurance gives you 0:21:41.760 --> 0:21:45.440 a reimbursement, a daily reimbursement, and it's it's a really 0:21:45.480 --> 0:21:49.520 important idea, particularly with a growing aging population, but it's 0:21:49.640 --> 0:21:54.000 also a tricky one to talk about with younger people 0:21:54.040 --> 0:21:57.639 to get across. Uh, you know what it's like to 0:21:57.720 --> 0:22:00.959 go through these experiences, right, I mean people they just 0:22:01.000 --> 0:22:03.000 think they're going to be young and strong forever, or 0:22:03.080 --> 0:22:07.679 even if they're thinking about the like a parent that 0:22:07.760 --> 0:22:11.000 they might be caring for, it's still an experience that's 0:22:11.040 --> 0:22:14.640 so far removed from their own personal experience. It's hard 0:22:14.720 --> 0:22:17.919 to have that kind of sympathy, right, And frankly, this 0:22:18.000 --> 0:22:21.040 isn't something we usually want to think about, so sure well, 0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:23.440 and and also it's this kind of issue of sympathy 0:22:23.440 --> 0:22:25.359 and empathy with any kind of patient is is a 0:22:25.440 --> 0:22:28.880 huge issue in the medical industry and it's been luckily 0:22:29.000 --> 0:22:31.320 getting increased attention in the past couple of decades, but 0:22:31.480 --> 0:22:33.120 no one has really come up with a really good 0:22:33.160 --> 0:22:36.240