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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you guys called it Live with Your Craziest Stories.

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Speaker 2: This is episode three of OKOP Hotline Golf four for

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Speaker 3: So I got scammed by someone on five or after

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Speaker 1: My dad told me a couple of weeks ago that

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Speaker 3: So I made a Fiber account as a musician and

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Speaker 3: I felt like a beast because this lady, whose usual

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Speaker 1: And it was super.

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Speaker 3: When I started realizing that it might be a scam,

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Speaker 3: I ended up writing a song for her ten year

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Speaker 2: Wow, dang, that legitimately sucks. I am so sorry. I

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Speaker 2: how's it going? Or actually, what's how do we do? Last? Authentically?

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Speaker 2: All right? Come, come, come on? Oh scream into the phone.

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Speaker 2: Here you go?

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Speaker 4: Should I put the phone?

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Speaker 2: my friend Cam. He actually, he actually did recently get

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Speaker 2: he's a musician who made a beautiful song about this

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Speaker 2: kid Johnson, who is imaginary kid who scammed him out

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Speaker 4: Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Also, Cam is like a talented musician, and so

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Speaker 2: we're gonna be like performing some songs for y'all later

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Speaker 2: in this episode. This is a musical episode of Okop.

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Speaker 2: So that's a his dolphin voice. He features it in

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Speaker 4: That was actually just my singing voice, surpress.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was gonna be better, all.

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Speaker 4: Right, let's see, and I think we can add a

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Speaker 2: But let me get it, all right, throw it on.

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Speaker 2: Let's hear it.

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Speaker 4: This is Peaches by Justin Bieber for a Sweet, Sweet Boy.

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Speaker 2: I don't think this is Peaches.

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Speaker 4: That was Briston Roney's Saint Hager's Steve. A new EP

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Speaker 2: I really really want to hear it. I'm so ridiculously excited.

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Speaker 4: Here's Peaches Johnson's version.

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Speaker 5: It's Johnson.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So, to talk through my thought process on this, I

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Speaker 2: This is like so much effort, so much effort, Fiver, Really,

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Speaker 2: they really should have paid you, Like, how much were

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Speaker 2: you asking for two hundred and fifty downs? And they

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Speaker 3: Can I see you?

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Speaker 2: So you're integrating things about him into the song so

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Speaker 4: Every single line involves one of the six facts I

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Speaker 2: Are we allowed to play this song?

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Speaker 5: It's in.

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Speaker 4: I think this song can be.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm not sure Universal Music Group won't go

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Speaker 4: There Brankley is a small chance.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're gonna play this song a little bit throughout

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Speaker 4: My impersonation of an audience member cheering in the head,

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Speaker 2: As they should. As they should. Cam is a beautiful

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Speaker 1: There we go. Am I the asshole for not accepting

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Speaker 4: Yeah? It drop fire baby, right? She might not be laughing,

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Speaker 2: Chi Ken's first experienced.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's do it.

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Speaker 2: Let's go go a little bit back. Oheah, god, this

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Speaker 1: She blocked me, and then like six months later, she

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Speaker 2: You can, okay, we're gonna call you in a sack,

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Speaker 2: But cam would you forgive someone in this case?

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Speaker 4: I mean, it sounds like there's kind of a pattern

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Speaker 2: Like can ken is that forgivable? Like accusing someone of

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Speaker 2: Relation, I mean one that's like, well, like I don't

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: It's like, should I even like accept this apology or

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Speaker 4: And I think that is the first question before before

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Speaker 2: Would you? I don't think I would.

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Speaker 4: I think forgiveness is super different from getting back together.

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Speaker 4: And I think it's clear that this is someone who

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Speaker 4: oh sorry, accepting her apology would would mean a lot

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hey, this is Sam from the OKOP Show. How's

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Speaker 1: I'm god, Bro, I listened to you guys every day.

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Speaker 2: No way, Hey, I really appreciate it. I actually have

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Bro that that story is so messed up. But

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Speaker 2: Okay, nice to reach you, Nathaniel. So how did you

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be good for me. Nothing can go wrong. Boy,

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Speaker 2: Wait, you you lost friends and like she like destroyed

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Speaker 4: And at this point, you you had kind of socially recovered,

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I was in a good place. I had started,

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Speaker 1: So then it kind of it kind of like dawned

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think it was just like like regret

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like almost like she's apologizing out of a

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Speaker 2: not gonna be able to restore my reputation completely, but

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Speaker 2: maybe you could help by saying what you said was false.

442
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Speaker 1: You know, that's a good question. I've never really like

443
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 1: sat down and thought about it, but I was just

444
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,880
Speaker 1: kind of like, in the moment after we got done

445
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 1: with the whole conversation, I kind of thought to myself,

446
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,640
Speaker 1: I was like, it's it's done. It said. Even if

447
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 1: I even if she apologized or even made a claim

448
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 1: that was like what I said was wrong or fake,

449
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 1: I'm still gonna have those friends who said nasty, mean

450
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 1: things to me. It's gonna be like, I trust you, Dan,

451
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 1: if someone doesn't say something else and you're like, well

452
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:51,639
Speaker 1: now I'm back on the bandwagon hating you.

453
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Speaker 7: Yeah.

454
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,880
Speaker 2: No, it's like it's hard to establish that trust again

455
00:21:55,960 --> 00:22:00,359
Speaker 2: with the friends that you maybe like went again steal

456
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 2: when maybe that.

457
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 1: The truth was actually different than.

458
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Speaker 2: Oh I'm so sorry, Tothaniel. So I mean, but like

459
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,679
Speaker 2: maybe it would help a little bit, just like at

460
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 2: least for her, her actually doing something to help rather

461
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 2: than something to destroy or just empty words. Like maybe

462
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 2: this is like the penance she needs to do for

463
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,439
Speaker 2: her to like go on her her own journey of

464
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:32,120
Speaker 2: actually remedying the things that she's fucked up. And then

465
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Speaker 2: also like I think it could have something positive effects

466
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Speaker 2: on you, Like I it seems like she might be

467
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Speaker 2: open to to apologizing publicly. I know this is just

468
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 2: a long time ago though, Yeah.

469
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Speaker 1: It's been two years. Though, would it be really work

470
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Speaker 1: the time to try to like drag up old memories.

471
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Speaker 1: I mean, I've moved on in those last three years though,

472
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Speaker 1: I've gotten married. My wife is in the background, say hi, McKenzie.

473
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Speaker 2: McKenzie, McKenzie grads. I'm so glad. It's a happy end there.

474
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Speaker 4: You found a good one.

475
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 2: That awesome Daniels of.

476
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Speaker 1: Baz, Yeah, everything's great. Like it was nine months after that,

477
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 1: I met Mackenzie, like when we started talking and and

478
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,360
Speaker 1: everything was going well, and then we got married as

479
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Speaker 1: a July twenty ninth of this year, so it's been

480
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Speaker 1: three months and everything.

481
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Speaker 2: Wow, congrats. Yeah, I guess, like you know, I maybe

482
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,439
Speaker 2: if it was a little closer to the actual event,

483
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 2: it would have made sense to do. But like I

484
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 2: think you're living, you know, almost like a completely new

485
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 2: new life, and it's like, who it would probably cause

486
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 2: more drama to bring this up and then cause more pain.

487
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Speaker 4: And also from from what you've said, it seems as

488
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,400
Speaker 4: though every time there's an apology, it comes from when

489
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 4: she's at a low point and she's trying to feel better.

490
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,199
Speaker 4: Em was trying to feel better about herself. And it

491
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 4: almost seems as though and any apology was never really

492
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Speaker 4: with you. And mind if you're in a good place

493
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 4: and the apologies aren't really doing anything for you, and

494
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 4: it seems as though the apologies are only rooted out

495
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 4: of some sort of selfish motivation. I don't know if

496
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 4: that is really an apology, you.

497
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Speaker 2: Know, No, that's a good point, Like what is an apology?

498
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,360
Speaker 2: And like, like an apology isn't just meant to make

499
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 2: you feel better? It's meant to actually do something good.

500
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Speaker 1: An apology is supposed to be, in my opinion, like

501
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 1: a mutual thing, like, hey, I did wrong, let me

502
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 1: apologize and might kind of repent for this situation, not

503
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 1: a backdated like I did wrong, but something else happened

504
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: and now I feel bad for what I did to

505
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 1: you and you shouldn't feel bad, so let me apologize

506
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 1: like that. That's not an apology.

507
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Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed. Well, I'm glad that your life seems to

508
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 2: have gotten a lot better since then, And congrats on

509
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 2: getting married. That's huge, Daniel. And also, thank you so

510
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 2: much for calling in and sharing your story. I really

511
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 2: really appreciate it.

512
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 1: And if you have more like this, I'm a big

513
00:24:59,200 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: fan of the show.

514
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 2: Thank you. I mean, it's been an amazing like this

515
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 2: is like, uh, we've only we haven't released an episode

516
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 2: of Doing This yet. I think the first one comes

517
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 2: out like Monday or Tuesday. But it's been so much

518
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 2: fun to just like like talk to people who actually

519
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 2: listen and watch and like oh, like wow, these are

520
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 2: these are people who like have like really interesting stories themselves,

521
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 2: And so thanks for thanks for sharing.

522
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Speaker 1: No problem. I kind of had like a small panic

523
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: attack when I saw the phone, Like I saw y'all

524
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 1: text me the other day. You're like, hey missed the call,

525
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, that's fine.

526
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Speaker 5: You guys.

527
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Speaker 1: I know y'all are busy. You know, podcast people have

528
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: famous you know, people are like. But I was like,

529
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 1: I was like, I was just sitting on my computer

530
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 1: just now and then I saw I saw OKOP because

531
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 1: I saved the thing in my head. I was like,

532
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: it's happening.

533
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Speaker 2: That's awesome, dude, I really appreciate it. I mean it's like,

534
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 2: I mean it's because of you like listening that we've

535
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 2: gotten to this point. So I'm glad that we could

536
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 2: share your story a little bit.

537
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: Oh it's good, open person. Look here. And I'm a

538
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: big fan of the show. Like every time I'm like

539
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: in the truck. So, like I said, I drop for

540
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: a company called Coastal Environmental. It's like like a garbage truck,

541
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: but I don't have to get out of touch anything.

542
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 1: But every time I get in there, it's like, not

543
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: only do I get to just drive all day, but

544
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: I get to listen to OK while.

545
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 2: That's awesome. That's awesome. Yeah, someone what have uh we

546
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 2: met this guy Mick and he like like he will

547
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 2: fall asleep to it, his girlfriend and him will play

548
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 2: it and like do naughty, naughty things. It's funny. It's been,

549
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 2: like I feel like it's been in every situation.

550
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: That's that's kind of funny. Imagine just being like, yeah,

551
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: Samuel Johner's boy.

552
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Speaker 2: I honestly can't imagine it, but hey, you know, if

553
00:26:58,400 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 2: it helps, I'm glad it help.

554
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: It's but if it was gonna be anyone's woice, I mean,

555
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 1: like I'm just saying, John's always the one with like

556
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 1: the little like funny voices. You always do the like

557
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: the deep funny voices, but like, uh, what what is

558
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: it that John always says whenever you say something like

559
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 1: you're you're you're putting like a suggestive undertone and whatever said,

560
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: And then John's always like.

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Speaker 7: Oh god, oh god, oh god, John standing John cam Yeah, he's.

562
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 1: A kool aid man, that's what.

563
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Well, Daniel, thank you so much. Please

564
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 2: if you have another story, callus said, and we'll talk

565
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 2: to you very soon.

566
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: I got plenty of stories. I'll let you guys know

567
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: of any of that like that are like super out

568
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: there dramatic like this one, but I got you.

569
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 2: Guys, I appreciate it. I'll talk to you soon later.

570
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 4: See anything little suspicious that his wife's name also begins

571
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 4: with an M.

572
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 2: I F I love our community, dude, it's so sick.

573
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 2: I was super speciful. Yeah, oh man, it's like hearing

574
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 2: about people's lives and actually getting to interact with them

575
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 2: and give like advice and like feedback, like in just.

576
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,679
Speaker 4: Also hearing the details of that story just filled in

577
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 4: so many blanks.

578
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 2: From yeah icemail. I know, I know, there was like

579
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 2: we had so much that we just didn't know. I mean,

580
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 2: you can't you can't pack it into like a two

581
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 2: minute voicemail.

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Speaker 4: Oh I know, Oh, mister Johnson, don't about Oh yeah,

583
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 4: because now.

584
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 2: Sple sentence. Let's get into the next callar. So that

585
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 2: was a lovely last call with Nathaniel and Nathaniel his

586
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 2: life seems pretty good now.

587
00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 4: Leaking the full name of m when we hit a

588
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 4: thousand legs.

589
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 2: What we're gonna do next is we're actually gonna do

590
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: a little musical number. Yes, so we're gonna give some advice. Yes,

591
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 2: we heard this voicemail in musical form.

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Speaker 6: This is Joe and are you proud? Of me that

593
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 6: I was sent home twice from the hospital saying I

594
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 6: wasn't in labor when I was in fact in active

595
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Speaker 6: labor and ended up giving birth on the bathroom floor

596
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Speaker 6: in the middle of a blizzard.

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Speaker 4: I'm very proud of you, highly proud, highly proud. Impressive feet.

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00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 4: Cannot wait to talk to you, Joe.

599
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 2: Also, Cam has a foot fetish, so he's imagining your

600
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 2: feet right now.

601
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 4: This is not a fact. This is going to ruin

602
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 4: my future career. Sam's no regard presidential candidate Cam. I

603
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 4: love thirty years from now. Pregnant feet. This a Freudian

604
00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 4: slip by Sam, A little little for the for the

605
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 4: trivia channel years down the road. Okay, op trivia?

606
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 2: What better Sam?

607
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 4: What are Sam's favorite kind of feet? Pregnant feet?

608
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 2: All right, Joe, we're gonna call you and uh, we're

609
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 2: going to play you a song about your situation.

610
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 4: One might even call a pregnant feet an impressive feat.

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00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 4: Cut that out in post feet.

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00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 2: Hello, Hey, Joe, this is Sam from OKOP.

613
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 4: And guest host Cam from okay op.

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00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 6: Oh Hi, oh my goodness.

615
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 7: Hello.

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Speaker 2: How's it going to hear about your hospital story? But

617
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 2: first we want to play you a song that we

618
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 2: wrote specifically about your hospital story.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I would love to hear it.

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00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 2: All right, you ready, when Joe.

621
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Speaker 4: Came to the doctor's door, she was turned away to

622
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Speaker 4: the hardwood. I can't believe that's what they put you through.

623
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 4: Obstetians wrong, not once, but twice. It was his job

624
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 4: to protect your life. You must have made you question

625
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 4: if you would truly truly pregnant, truly pregnant, truly pregnant.

626
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 4: That God is a dick, Joe. It took us about

627
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 4: twenty hours to really nail down the lyrics for that song.

628
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 4: But we're been practicing for a year. But we're happy

629
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Speaker 4: with the results are beautiful, and the bad news is

630
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 4: they weren't meant to be harmony.

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Speaker 2: Well, Joe, I did to hear about this. I'm glad

632
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 2: I need to hear about this, this hospital story. So

633
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 2: how did this uh, how did this all start?

634
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Speaker 6: Well? I went into labor. Actually, funny enough, I was

635
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 6: working on my house to move into at the time,

636
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 6: and I had joking and said to my brother, like,

637
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 6: I don't feel good today, something's not right. I was like,

638
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 6: wouldn't it be so funny if I went into labor

639
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 6: today and we went into the house to work on it,

640
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 6: and within fifteen minutes I had my first contractions.

641
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Speaker 4: So I went to the.

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Speaker 6: Hospital that night and I was dilated to a four

643
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Speaker 6: and seventy percent of face, which is like active labor,

644
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 6: you guys like you are in it. And so they

645
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Speaker 6: told me that I wasn't in active labor, that I

646
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Speaker 6: was fine because I'm very physically disabled, so I'm used

647
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Speaker 6: to being in a lot of pain. So I was

648
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Speaker 6: like joking with them and walking and talking through the

649
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 6: whole thing. So they just kind of assumed I wasn't

650
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 6: in labor. That was like graps can contractions.

651
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 2: Just because you're a badass and can handle pain. They're like,

652
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 2: you know, like that I see the baby's head.

653
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 6: But apparently, so they gave me a shot of more

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Speaker 6: fheed and sent me on my way.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, you know, they sent you out

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Speaker 2: at the hospital while you were having contractions.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah. I went home that night, went to.

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Speaker 4: Bed and what was there? Only they were just like,

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Speaker 4: gut reaction, You're not in labor, trust us. Is that

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Speaker 4: all that happened? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Exactly.

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Speaker 6: You were like they were like you need you know,

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Speaker 6: everything's fine, just go home. It'll calm down eventually.

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Speaker 1: And you believed them, Yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 4: Your cut reaction was not the same.

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Speaker 6: I didn't believe them in a weird way, like I

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Speaker 6: was like, something's not right, but like I'm not the

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Speaker 6: doctor here, so I have to just you know, Okay.

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Speaker 2: So you went home and then when did you stop

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Speaker 2: trusting the doctor's gut reaction?

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Speaker 6: So I actually had to go back the next day

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Speaker 6: because they didn't stop. Still was four centimeters, but was

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Speaker 6: one hundred percent of face, which means my uterus is

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Speaker 6: ready to give birth. It just needs to be ten centimeters,

675
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 6: but my uterus is like ready for that baby to

676
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Speaker 6: come out. And they still said, no, you're good. And

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Speaker 6: they actually put the sensors on the front, like on

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Speaker 6: my stomach, and I had almost all back labor, so

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Speaker 6: you can feel it in the front, back side wherever,

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Speaker 6: and it was all in my back. It felt like

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Speaker 6: I had a crank in my back. And I asked

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Speaker 6: them like, hey, can we put the sensors on the

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Speaker 6: back because I don't feel really anything in the front.

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Speaker 6: It's like mild period cramps in the front, and in

685
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Speaker 6: the back it is everything. And they said no, no, no,

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Speaker 6: it'll sense your back cramps in the front.

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Speaker 2: And it didn't.

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Speaker 6: And it's very much. I had contractions like every minute

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Speaker 6: and a half, but they were minischool on the monitor

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Speaker 6: because they weren't all happening in the front. It was

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Speaker 6: all in the back.

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Speaker 2: How are these doctors still employed? Where did they get

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Speaker 2: their medical degrees? I want names out them.

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Speaker 6: See after that, after this entire experience, I was just happy.

695
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Speaker 6: I was okay, and so was my kids.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, that that's what really about us. That's what

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Speaker 2: really about.

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Speaker 4: Us, okay, Joe. So the biggest question, are you sure

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Speaker 4: the child is yours? You know, I'm I'm kidding. So

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Speaker 4: the second time in the.

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Speaker 6: Hospital and my mom caught her, I'm gonna say.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, your mom caught her.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, because my mom was there. I was living

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Speaker 6: with my mom at the time because we were in

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Speaker 6: transition to you know, go to my new house. And

706
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 6: so she was like, I don't know what they're saying.

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00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 6: You know, they're saying extraction hicks. And so I was

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00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 6: in the bathroom thinking like, oh, this is just I

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Speaker 6: just I just got to go to the bathroom. That's

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Speaker 6: what's going on. And yeah, I pushed and it was

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Speaker 6: not uh not the bathroom. It was my kid, so

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Speaker 6: my mom had to kind of jump in and play

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Speaker 6: paramedics first.

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Speaker 2: Did you almost put your baby in the toilet?

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Speaker 6: Oh? Yeah, And I had specifically system like I specifically

716
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Speaker 6: said that day, like, Hey, I see all these people

717
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Speaker 6: like on TV having their babies in the toilet. I

718
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 6: really don't want to be one of them, and I

719
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Speaker 6: almost wanted. It was an almost instant baptism.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. Well, I'm glad that your baby was

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Speaker 2: not born into a toilet, although again great for the

722
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 2: immune system, your baby would not have gotten COVID.

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Speaker 4: Were you just really thankful that your mom was with her?

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Speaker 4: I'm sure that would have been terrifying on your own.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, my entire family was there, so it was very

726
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 5: scary but also very intrusive and not the way I

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00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 5: wanted that to go. And it was in the middle

728
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Speaker 5: of a blizzard, so they took them over an hour

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Speaker 5: to get out to us and get me in the ambulance.

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Speaker 6: So I was just very thankful I was not home

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Speaker 6: by myself that day.

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Speaker 4: And how are you feeling during that process? Were you scared, happy,

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Speaker 4: just filled filled with joy? Like, or how how are

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Speaker 4: you handling that? Because I would have been terrified.

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Speaker 2: I would have been freaking terrified. I probably would have

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Speaker 2: passed out had I would have had a toilet baby.

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Speaker 6: I just very much remember my mom bluring me to

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Speaker 6: the ground and me just going, I told you so,

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Speaker 6: I told you so, I told you so, I told

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Speaker 6: you And then it was like I know better than

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Speaker 6: the black out just blurry and they're like, Mom, are

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Speaker 6: you okay? And I'm like, uh huh, yeah, sure, great, awesome,

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Speaker 6: she good cool. I was so just throw this, Joe.

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Speaker 4: This, this story has the ability to help people because

745
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 4: because because you're saying that you knew about all these

746
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 4: toilet babies, I don't know if most people mothers know

747
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 4: about toilet babies. And and I think you.

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Speaker 2: Can save one toilet baby from this story, then it's

749
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Speaker 2: worth it. Now, IM say, save one hundred toilet babies.

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Speaker 4: To eight hundred.

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Speaker 2: Call it now to four four zero, five zero eight

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Speaker 2: six five sixty seven. Well, Joe, I really appreciate you

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Speaker 2: calling in with your story. All, so, what is your

754
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Speaker 2: baby's name?

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Speaker 6: Her name is Charlotte, and she's a half.

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Speaker 2: Charlotte, so oh Charlotte and hippy birthday in the future.

757
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Speaker 4: And also, Joe Charlotte has the best story any newborn

758
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Speaker 4: can ever possibly have, and it's only going up from there.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely. My family always said I have a flair for

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00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,240
Speaker 6: the dramatics, so they're like, of course you're baby.

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Speaker 2: Well, Joe, thank you again so much for calling in

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Speaker 2: and sharing your story. If you have any more, please

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00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 2: call in again and we'll talk to you very soon.

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Speaker 2: I really appreciate you listening to the show.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, I'm a big fan, and thank you for calling

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Speaker 6: me back. It was fun to talk to you guys.

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Speaker 4: Of course, much love Joe. And also it's it's so

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Speaker 4: cool that that you are so cool that not once

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Speaker 4: but twice you convinced an obstetrician that you were you

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Speaker 4: were not in active labor. I'm sure you're so a

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Speaker 4: pleasure to hang out with. Yeah, I.

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Speaker 6: Really don't believe.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. Well, Joe, we'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 2: Keep being a badass and uh spread joy to everyone

775
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 2: you meet.

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Speaker 7: Will do.

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Speaker 2: Litter job. All right, we're gonna do an encore of

778
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Speaker 2: the song already.

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Speaker 4: When Joe came to the doctor's door, he was turned

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Speaker 4: away to the hardwood floor. I can't believe that's what

781
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Speaker 4: they put you through. The Obstetaians wrong at once, but twice.

782
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Speaker 4: It was his job to protect your life. You must

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Speaker 4: have made you question if you truly Julie pregnant. Truly

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Speaker 4: pregnant Julie pregnant E is a dick.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm