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Speaker 2: Morning Combat is back. Hello everyone, It is the eleventh

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Speaker 2: of April twenty twenty two, and it is time for

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Speaker 2: your official kickoff to the New Fight Week, the wrap

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Speaker 2: And speaking of all things new and old, no, Brian

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Speaker 2: Campbell didn't lose one hundred pounds, or get normal colored

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Speaker 2: I want to say new co host, but certainly co

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Speaker 2: host for today. Brian Campbell, of course, is on vacation,

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Speaker 2: fresh off of his trip to UFC two seventy three.

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Speaker 2: It is my friend and yours three five himself Danny Sigourna.

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Speaker 2: Hi Danny, how are you? And welcome to the show,

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Speaker 2: My good good friend.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing well. I'm refreshed, finally rested up from the

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Speaker 3: UFC two seventy three fright wig hectic, hectic stuff, and

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Speaker 3: here we are to talk about it. Because a lot

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Speaker 3: excited to be here, and let's get it rolling, all right.

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Speaker 2: Rate Jacksonville in tern I'm gonna give you the Florida

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Speaker 2: So whatever, Tampa, I'll throw Jacksonville in there, and then

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Speaker 3: Me, Miami, Tampa, Jacksonville. I mean I like Tampa. Tampa's

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Speaker 3: not too bad. I mean Jacksonville isn't bad either, but

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, to me, the just real.

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Speaker 3: Quick, the downtown like here in Miami, like downtown is

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Speaker 3: You know, Miami traffic is infamous. In Jacksonville. The weirdest

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Speaker 2: So Dan and I were talking about this previously, and

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Speaker 2: I've traveled through the Midwest, like I've been to des Moines, Iowa.

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Speaker 2: Uh they're empty, They're completely empty. So you know, you

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Speaker 3: Well that's more like touristy, but like the downtown would

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Speaker 2: Danny was there, we'll talk about his experience as well.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you married the speed, you marry the timing,

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Speaker 2: A couple more questions about this, Where would you like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it's top fun. I think I want to

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Speaker 3: So I'd like to see that for Volkanovsky because I

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Speaker 3: just see how he looks at one fifty five. Let's

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Speaker 3: see how he skills translay. Let's just have a little

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I think they have to do

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Speaker 2: to see five more? Dude, that's ten rounds against one

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Speaker 2: I mean, they both have the three title defenses, they

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Speaker 2: be nice to settle given that they are sort of like,

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Speaker 2: Perhaps I really hope that they make it. I will

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Speaker 2: Volt goes up there. So I'm stating my preferences. Clearly,

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Speaker 2: there are so many good reasons to make a third

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Speaker 2: but it would be a good name, good test. What

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Speaker 2: gonna give you my logical for it. Okay, ten fifteen,

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Speaker 2: let me read you who's ranked? Phaziv, Saryuki and Gamrot, Hooker, Riddell, Fajeda.

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Speaker 2: Don't like any of those fights. Phyziv'saryuki and Gamrot are

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Speaker 2: And then comes Rda. Rda used to fight. I think

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Speaker 2: would be a one fifty five out. We know about

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Speaker 2: his history at one seventy. Do you what do you think?

430
00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,360
Speaker 3: I love that fight. I think it's I think you're

431
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,000
Speaker 3: on the money. I think this fight makes the most

432
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,520
Speaker 3: sense out of all the ones. That you can make

433
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,639
Speaker 3: in the top fifteen. Because Rgier is also in a

434
00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,879
Speaker 3: place where like, and he kind of said it after

435
00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,639
Speaker 3: his fight, his latest win, He's like, I want the

436
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,000
Speaker 3: McGregor one, maybe I want a big money fight, this

437
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,199
Speaker 3: and that, but he wasn't necessarily going out there. I

438
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,360
Speaker 3: need the next title shot. So look, if you want

439
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,560
Speaker 3: a big fight, if you want to add to your legacy,

440
00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,919
Speaker 3: a legacy bout, why not take a champion at one

441
00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,600
Speaker 3: hundred and forty five pounds, welcome him to your weight class.

442
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,679
Speaker 3: And look RDA. You know, I know he's been around

443
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 3: for some time. He's probably towards the end of his prime,

444
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 3: if not maybe a little bit past it, but not

445
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,720
Speaker 3: too much for him not to be one of the

446
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 3: best fighters at one fifty five. But I think that's

447
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,320
Speaker 3: a perfect test because he's got the history, he's got

448
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 3: the prestige, he's currently still very very good, has headlined

449
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 3: tons of fight nights in pay per views, so he

450
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,199
Speaker 3: can definitely do that again. And he's not all the

451
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 3: way up in the rankings, in the top three or

452
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 3: top five, where you know, it'll disrupt some things if

453
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,520
Speaker 3: you were able to, you know, put in the forty

454
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,360
Speaker 3: five champion up there. So I love it. I think

455
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:35,440
Speaker 3: it's a it's a great pick.

456
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it for a lot of reasons. One

457
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 2: RDA is at that one seventy campaign. I mean, you

458
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 2: go you watch his fight with Kamara Usman and you're like,

459
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 2: this guy is completely a different size than him. You know,

460
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 2: here he would have something of a size advantage. Again,

461
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 2: they'd be the same weight, but you know what I'm saying,

462
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,959
Speaker 2: I have a size advantage. Two RDA is good everywhere,

463
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,159
Speaker 2: a good takedown defense, good striking. Obviously, he's got a

464
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 2: pretty good jiu jitsu. Not a huge submission threat in

465
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,160
Speaker 2: the way that Ortego was, but you know, a legitimate

466
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,640
Speaker 2: black belt. There's just a lot of and he's physical

467
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 2: as well, a physical fight or physical striker. There's a

468
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 2: lot of reasons why if they if, if, if, and

469
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,439
Speaker 2: when he goes to one fifty five, that that will

470
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 2: be a decent choice for him getting back to getting

471
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 2: back though to Max and just.

472
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,120
Speaker 3: Real quick, look, if I can ask, sorry were interrupted

473
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 3: one thing also that would be important for that bout.

474
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,919
Speaker 3: I think one of the things about Volkanovsky going up

475
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 3: to one fifty five is that at one he's not

476
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 3: that big. He's not one of the bigger guys, so

477
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 3: one fifty five probably a lot of people are wondering,

478
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 3: you know, if his ceiling is going to be too

479
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 3: short because of the size and look. Ardia is a

480
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 3: physical guy, as you mentioned, can wrestle, so he's not

481
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 3: a guy that will stay away from the grappling. So

482
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Speaker 3: if we're going to answer questions about what he can

483
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 3: do with some of the bigger guys, what happens when

484
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,160
Speaker 3: he locks horns with some of those fifty five ers,

485
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 3: I think Rdia would one hundred percent answer those questions.

486
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 2: That's right, He's a great He's a great measuring stick,

487
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 2: so to speak, to see exactly what Volkanovsky can really

488
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 2: offer in this way. Last great point getting back to

489
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 2: Max and Alex. Let me let me pitch you another

490
00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,640
Speaker 2: thing that sort of occurred to me. If it's wrong,

491
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,880
Speaker 2: by all me, please tell me. I'm going to ask

492
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 2: you this question. I want to present it this way.

493
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 2: My question is if they make another Alex and Max fight,

494
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 2: given what they did the first two times, A, who

495
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 2: would you favor to win? And B are there any

496
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,919
Speaker 2: shades of Canelo triple g with this? Is this MMA's

497
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,919
Speaker 2: Canelo Triple G not the same thing in a lot

498
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 2: of different ways. But you have two fights, both times

499
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,919
Speaker 2: one guy won both times. There or at least some

500
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,400
Speaker 2: degree of controversy. They might make a third one. It's possible.

501
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 2: And if they do, the guy who has lost the

502
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,439
Speaker 2: first two, who was trying to sort of right the

503
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 2: ship for the third one, may have been. In Triple

504
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 2: G's case, he got a little bit older and a

505
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 2: little bit slower, and you know, a little bit of

506
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 2: the game has worn him down. Max is certainly not elderly,

507
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 2: but has been in a lot of tough fights, has

508
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 2: been in a lot of grinding wars, the Poortier one,

509
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 2: the yayir Wan, but plenty more than that. Is there

510
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 2: something to be saying that, like would Yes, you could

511
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 2: look at the first two results from the Max Alex fight,

512
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 2: but this third one is different, given now they're both

513
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,120
Speaker 2: in a pretty different place in their career in terms

514
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 2: of the accumulation and damage in age.

515
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think there's a lot of similarities. I

516
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 3: think the biggest one is that in that fight, In

517
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 3: those two fights that we saw with Triple G and Canelo,

518
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 3: we kind of didn't really get an answer on who

519
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 3: the best fighter is, right. I mean, both fighters have

520
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 3: their moments that were super competitive fights and depending on

521
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 3: who you ask, Triple G probably should have won both

522
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 3: or Canelo, depending on who you ask. And that's very

523
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 3: much the case with Volkanovsky and Holloway. Some people saw

524
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Speaker 3: Holloway win both fights, especially the second one. I think

525
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 3: that's probably the closest one. But I would say it's

526
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Speaker 3: the big difference there is that I feel like there's

527
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 3: not much doubt on Canelo. Obviously he's gone on to

528
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 3: do amazing things and he's become the goat right now,

529
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 3: you know, the best. I don't necessarily think that that's

530
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Speaker 3: the case for Volkanovski. I think Canelo has more of

531
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 3: the fans on his side, whereas in this scenario with

532
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,719
Speaker 3: Holloway and Volkanoski, I feel like most of the fans

533
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 3: or a grand majority, are obviously behind Max Holloway. And

534
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 3: I think Max Holloway has kind of shown a little

535
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 3: bit of a evolution, you know, and his striking, just

536
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,199
Speaker 3: looking extremely dominant against Calvin Cator and then using some

537
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 3: wrestling to beat Gido Vegas. If it wasn't for wrestling,

538
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,360
Speaker 3: I don't know if he would have won that fight

539
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 3: because Jid was definitely piecing him up with Triple G.

540
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 3: He's had some good moments and we'll talk about his

541
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,199
Speaker 3: was recent fight here in the program. But I don't

542
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 3: see that evolution. If anything, we've seen a bit of

543
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 3: a decline with Triple G, whereas Max Alloway has kind

544
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 3: of kept this dream alive this this two series, despite

545
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 3: being oh in two, just because his two previous fights

546
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 3: have been so great.

547
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I want to be clear, I'm not

548
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 2: saying that Max's shopworn. I think Max is still very

549
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,239
Speaker 2: good and capable of beating Volkanowski. But that Bill is

550
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 2: gonna come due for all the damage he's taken. It's

551
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 2: gonna come to you.

552
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 3: He's Hawaiian. You know, you never know, man, it might

553
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 3: take a few years.

554
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 2: You know, fair enough it will it could be who

555
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,199
Speaker 2: knows when it will really begin to on set, but

556
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 2: that's your fight was surprisingly tough. It looked like, Yeah, I.

557
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 3: Don't think he expected that, think he expected to wrestle

558
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 3: as much as he did. I think Jad really brought

559
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 3: it and really turned up his game. And I think,

560
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,199
Speaker 3: you know, in no disrespect to Holloway, but coming off

561
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 3: that cater fight. He was, you know, self proclaimed the

562
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 3: best boxer in the division. Dude, you had a wrestler

563
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 3: to beat jayit, And again I don't I don't fault

564
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 3: them for it. I mean it's mixed martial arts. He

565
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 3: got the win. He was one hundred percent the better

566
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 3: fighter at the end of the day. But you know,

567
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 3: you might want to rethink that, especially in a third

568
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 3: fight with Volkanovski, because I think volkanofski striking is very

569
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 3: unappreciated because it's hard to appreciate. H It's so it's

570
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 3: so technical, and there's so many things that maybe the

571
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 3: untrained eye doesn't catch that it goes underappreciated.

572
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, it certainly is. He's not like Mayweather in the

573
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 2: sense that Mayweather did some things that Gobs got the

574
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 2: public to dislike him, whether taunting an opponent or trouble

575
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 2: with the law or whatever. It may be so nice, dude,

576
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 2: Like I know, I know he's so. But the other

577
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 2: part too, is he's also beating up everyone's favorite fighter,

578
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 2: right he beat Max's Street or takeing, he beat Zombie,

579
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 2: He'll you know, nothing a man and at also, but

580
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 2: here's my point, Volkanovsky badly needs a villain in that division,

581
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 2: and he doesn't realize it. He is. He's the Joker

582
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 2: going through and taking out all of the DC universe.

583
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 2: Good guys man, that's what he's done. At least that's

584
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 2: what the public's perception of him. And so he's trying

585
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 2: to flip that. It's not it's not easy. It's not easy.

586
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not easy. He's in a tough spot. But

587
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 3: all he can do is just keep racking up victories

588
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 3: and at some point the facts are going to be

589
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 3: the facts if he beats Max Holloway a third time. Like,

590
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 3: what do you what can you possibly say? What can

591
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 3: you possibly say? Nothing?

592
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to topic number two. Oh? Actually

593
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 2: what we very quickly, Veryckley before we get to talk

594
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 2: of two? For Korean Zombie? Where does he go from here?

595
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 3: Oh? Bro, I got one, I think Look. I spoke

596
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 3: to Korean Zombie at media day and asked him straight up,

597
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 3: do you think this is your last title shot? And

598
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 3: he gave a pretty sober answer. He's like, yeah, I'm

599
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 3: thirty five. I will continue fighting after this, with or

600
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 3: without the title. I'm not re tiring anytime soon. I

601
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 3: still have some fights in me. But this is one

602
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 3: hundred percent the last opportunity I get for the title.

603
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 3: And I think he's right. I think this is unfortunately

604
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 3: for all the Korean Zombie fans out there, this is

605
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 3: the last time we saw the Korean Zombie in a championship.

606
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 3: But it hurts. It hurts to say, but it's the truth.

607
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 3: But that doesn't mean there aren't fun fights for him

608
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 3: in the division. One fight that I would love to see.

609
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 3: And both these guys are in basically the same spot

610
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 3: of their career. They haven't fought before. The matchmakers can

611
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 3: thank me for this later versus Korean Zombie.

612
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 2: That's a great one. Wow. I had been thought of

613
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 2: that UFC fight night.

614
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 3: You know, get that out early so we can enjoy it.

615
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,239
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, you're right. One forty five. Wow, you

616
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 2: could do that. That's amazing. That's an amazing call. How

617
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 2: would you How would that play out?

618
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 3: You think that's such a tough one because edsimburb Bosa

619
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 3: is a little bit chinny.

620
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 2: Right, I think he his dawn with the boxing.

621
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like I mean, those kicks man at som

622
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 3: Barbosa plus atsm Barbosa moves very well. I think that

623
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 3: could give Zombie some issues. He's very quick. I think

624
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 3: it'll be a fight where you see at sim Barbosa

625
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 3: kind of taking the lead and then at some point

626
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 3: getting cracked and then even things out, and then that

627
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 3: would be just a back and forth. I think that's

628
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 3: what I expect.

629
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Speaker 2: I like that. It's a great call. And the last

630
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 2: thing I'll say on this is we moved to point

631
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 2: number two. The last thing I'll say is not every

632
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 2: fighter gets to be championed, very very very few of

633
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 2: them do. It should broaden your perspective and this should

634
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 2: be a learning lesson to folks. You don't have to

635
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 2: be a champion to have a a great career and

636
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 2: do very memorable things and to get the fan base

637
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: on your side. It's like it wasn't just that he

638
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 2: was a popular attraction and is a popular attraction. He

639
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 2: is still quite good, having that twister on his record

640
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 2: or whatever, and being the first one and some of

641
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 2: the fastest. He had the fastest knockout for our time.

642
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 2: He still might with the one over Haamanek. Like, dude,

643
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 2: he's done amazing things. He never was champion. That's okay

644
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 2: that he's still had a great career. It's not done yet.

645
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 3: He's a legend. He's a legend at one forty five.

646
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 2: All right, point number two, let's talk about co main event.

647
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 2: This is the much more. This is the most controversial,

648
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 2: I think, probably of the three the big fights on

649
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 2: the card. Aljaminer Sterling retained his title with a split

650
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 2: decision victory over Pyotr jan Ok. So two questions to

651
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 2: start this conversation, Danny, One, how did you score the fight?

652
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 2: And two? What does it win like this do for

653
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 2: Sterling's career and reputation?

654
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 3: So I actually scored it a draw. I thought that

655
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 3: Sterling took two rounds, but one of those rounds was

656
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 3: a ten eight, obviously being the second one, which was

657
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 3: the most dominant, And then I thought jan took first

658
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 3: and obviously the last two. Now that's that's what I

659
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 3: scored the fight after I watched it, because when I

660
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 3: was in the media room, I was doing some other things,

661
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 3: so I couldn't one hundred percent gauge what was going

662
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 3: on and pay full attention. But I saw it on

663
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 3: Sunday after the fact. It was sort of a cool head.

664
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 3: I think that second round is debatable, whether it's a

665
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 3: ten eight or ten to nine. I think it's very

666
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 3: close borderline. It was certainly dominant. I think it missed

667
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 3: a little bit of damage in order to convince those

668
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 3: guys that the people for the people. I scored at

669
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,239
Speaker 3: ten to nine, but certainly it's right there. I mean,

670
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 3: you can't say the round was anything but dominant for

671
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 3: Aljamin Sterling. So I scored a draw, and I think

672
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 3: it's huge for Aljamin Sterling because entering this fight, and

673
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 3: I'll be honest, I was a doubter of Aljamin Sterling. Certainly,

674
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 3: I'll give him his credit. A very good fighter, a

675
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 3: guy that got to fight for the title in the

676
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 3: first place. For that in itself, you got to be

677
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 3: a solid fighter to be a top contender, especially at

678
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 3: one thirty five. One thirty five is just full of killers.

679
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 3: But I thought Jan was sort of the was sort

680
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 3: of the dominant force at one thirty five, and we

681
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 3: were going to see a long rank for him just

682
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 3: from what I've seen. But clearly, if you take out

683
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 3: just Aljamin Sterling the persona, and you put another fighter

684
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 3: in and just look at that and have the same

685
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 3: type of performance, dude, he was right there neck and

686
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 3: neck with Jan and again dominated him in two rounds.

687
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 3: So I think this proves that he is very good.

688
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 3: He's among the very best. If anybody was ever doubting

689
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,239
Speaker 3: or just thought he got there by chance, Certainly, you know,

690
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 3: a close fight. I think on any given night maybe

691
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 3: Yan would have been champion. But but yeah, certainly algibin

692
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 3: Sterling is one of the very best in the most

693
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 3: competitive division in the UFC in my opinion.

694
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 2: All right, I'll tell you how I scored it. Let's

695
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 2: see if we can find someplace to agree or disagree clearly.

696
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 2: Rounds four and five free on ten nine, yep, Rounds

697
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 2: two and three for Sterling, Round three, ten nine, Round two.

698
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna argue it's ten nine. The reason why I'm

699
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 2: going to argue it's ten to nine is because while

700
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 2: he did have duration, to your point, I think it's

701
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 2: over just a shade under four minutes of control time,

702
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 2: something like three fifty three something like that of control time.

703
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 2: That is a significant amount of control time. That control

704
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 2: alone should win you the round from the back. But

705
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 2: to get a ten eight, he would have to marry

706
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 2: that with some things that either cut a guy open

707
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 2: from a heavy ground, abound close submission, attempts, just a

708
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 2: lot of punching volume, that really mattered, and there wasn't

709
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 2: that he had a body triangle on which glues you

710
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 2: to the guy. I mean, the benefit of the body

711
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 2: triangle is that it closes down the movement of the

712
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 2: guy who's locked in. The bad part is it also

713
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 2: locks you to him, so it limits your mobility to

714
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 2: do the things you might otherwise do if you didn't

715
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 2: have that same form of control. So you have to

716
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 2: you have to balance it out. There was not enough

717
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 2: damage there for me to give that a ten eight.

718
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 2: I am the first person to recognize that the taking

719
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 2: of the back must be respected because it's the it's

720
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 2: really the only position where you have complete asymmetry with

721
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 2: your opponent. But at the same time, if you just

722
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 2: I'm not saying he just held it. He went for submissions,

723
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 2: but you can't just go for submissions. They got to

724
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 2: be close. None of them were really close, and there

725
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 2: wasn't a damage fair unfair.

726
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 3: I think that's fair, and again I think that's around

727
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 3: that's borderline ten eight, ten nine. I mean, if whoever,

728
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 3: if you scored a ten to nine, I don't have

729
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 3: a big issue with that. But what I would say

730
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 3: to counter that was one the control time was just

731
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 3: ridiculous two. I mean back mount and just regular amount

732
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 3: or the two dominant, the most dominant positions you can

733
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 3: get on somebody on the ground. I mean, it wasn't

734
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 3: like he was inside his guard or half guard and

735
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 3: then he kept recovering and then there was a struggle there.

736
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 3: But he did have that control time, No dude, he

737
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 3: was glued to his back as you mentioned, and had

738
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 3: it with the most dominant position you can get in

739
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,919
Speaker 3: grappling for almost four minutes of the five minute round

740
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 3: and he did land his some ground and pound. It wasn't,

741
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 3: you know, devastating. It wasn't sort of Hamsat versus Diuvigno

742
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 3: or anything like that where he like, you know, cut

743
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 3: Throno open in the first round on the forehead. But

744
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 3: there was some work there. So again I don't, I

745
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 3: can't debate, you know, it's it's a tough sell, you know.

746
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 3: But but yeah, I'm okay with a ten nine scoring

747
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 3: for that round. But I think it was just enough

748
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 3: for a tennant.

749
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 2: Okay, So then let's let's just say none of the

750
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 2: judges gave it a ten eight. So really, to me,

751
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 2: when the debate comes down to right or wrong, they

752
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 2: just didn't. So yeah, two and three for Stirling, four

753
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 2: and five for y On. It takes us to round

754
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 2: one in real time. I wasn't quite watching it with

755
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 2: like a judging high I was. I was looking to

756
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 2: see what they were doing, you know, So when the

757
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 2: round was over, I genuinely did not know who won it.

758
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 2: And it was also hard, dude, it was hard to score.

759
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 3: Like.

760
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 2: It wasn't an easy round to Rounds two and three

761
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 2: are easy to judge, Rounds four and five are are

762
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 2: pretty easy to There's not a whole lot to it.

763
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 2: But round one was hard. It was hard to get

764
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 2: right and to the judges gave it to Sterling. One

765
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 2: round gave it to Yan. So when when back and

766
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 2: I watched it, Danny, here's what I saw, And I

767
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 2: retweeted Kuposa Gribacca hitman on this one. He basically says

768
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 2: he watched basically the first half of the first round,

769
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 2: but two minutes and twenty seconds or so that the

770
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 2: dude Yon just kind of walks him down but doesn't

771
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 2: throw anything. And Sterling didn't exactly land like, you know,

772
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 2: the biggest bomb ever, but he did land some body

773
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,280
Speaker 2: kicks some pretty good ones. He landed some leg kicks,

774
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 2: some pushkicks along the way, like he did a little

775
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 2: bit there that he counted. It was noticeable if even

776
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 2: if Yon upticked it towards the end of the first

777
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 2: he kind of just gave away the front half of it,

778
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 2: and two judges gave it to him for that. Yeah,

779
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 2: I don't that's close, and that sucks, but that doesn't

780
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 2: strike me as wholly unfair at all.

781
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was an extremely difficult round to score. I

782
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 3: just thought, like, look, the damage is equal here in

783
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 3: neither fight or scoring. And then if you just keep

784
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 3: going down the criteria, Jan was pushing the action, how

785
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 3: to control sort of the octagon. I mean, I think

786
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 3: towards the end, I think what did it for me

787
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 3: was that Young landed a pretty big left if I'm

788
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 3: not mistaken, off of Clinch and then the bell rung,

789
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 3: and that was probably the most significant shot of the

790
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 3: fight in my opinion, or the round my bat So

791
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 3: that's why I get gave it a ten nine to

792
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:27,879
Speaker 3: to Young.

793
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough. Again, I'm not here to tell I'm

794
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 2: not here to say. Yeah, I'm not here at all

795
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 2: to say that a round one score for Yon is

796
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 2: somehow inappropriate. I don't think it's inappropriate if people saw

797
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 2: it that way. Again, it was tough to score, I

798
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 2: get it. I guess my point is that people they

799
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:49,479
Speaker 2: want this fraudulent sense that they have put on top

800
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 2: of Aljamain from the first fight. They want that to

801
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 2: still be real, and it's just not real anymore. Like

802
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 2: even if you scored it for Yon, there's a very

803
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:03,439
Speaker 2: legitimate claim that Sterling deserves the scoring in that first

804
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 2: round as well, And because it was so close and

805
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 2: one gave it to you on and two gave it

806
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 2: to Sterling. To me, that's just the judging process playing

807
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 2: out as normal without a ton of evidence of incompetence

808
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 2: or something else. I just don't see that as incompetent judging.

809
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 3: No, no, no. I think if you just look at

810
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 3: the fight and you know it was so close that

811
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 3: it could merit, you know, to give it to either

812
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 3: guy as far as the first round and score. And

813
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 3: I think this should be a big lesson for MMA fighters.

814
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 3: In boxing, you can kind of take off rounds because

815
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 3: there's so many, so you can kind of gauge and

816
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 3: do the math and make sure you pick up rounds

817
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 3: here and there if the fight's getting close. But in

818
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 3: a dude, there's only five taking one round off or

819
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 3: just trying to gauge somebody, you might be able to

820
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 3: do it for a few minutes, but make sure at

821
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 3: least in one minute you're you're doing stuff that's significant,

822
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 3: because if you take one round off, that could have

823
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,919
Speaker 3: cost you the fight, you know. So Yeah, I mean again,

824
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 3: it's a very close fight. I don't think the hate

825
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 3: that is going towards Aljamin Sterling's way, I don't think

826
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 3: it's right because again, it's a very very close fight.

827
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 3: In order to be a very close fight, you know,

828
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 3: both parties need to be evenly matched, you know, at

829
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 3: least in terms of skills. So how are you gonna

830
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 3: hate on a guy that's just as good as Peter

831
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 3: jan So or you know, maybe a little less for

832
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 3: a little better depending on where you see him, but

833
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 3: certainly in the same level. You can't hate on that guy.

834
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 3: He's a worthy champion.

835
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to talk about that for a second.

836
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, I got it wrong on Sterling too,

837
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 2: I'll raise my hand. I got it wrong on al

838
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 2: Jamain Sterling knew he was good, knew he would deserve

839
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 2: to be taken seriously but thought that, like you, that

840
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 2: Jan was sort of the talent of this division. And

841
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 2: why did I make that claim? One Yon's overall body

842
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,240
Speaker 2: of work against Aldo, against san Hagen, and against Sterling

843
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 2: in their first fight. Against Sterling in their first fight,

844
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 2: I thought al Joe won the first. Maybe you could

845
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 2: say he fought okay in the second, But to me,

846
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 2: by the time the third round started, that was Yon's

847
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 2: fight to lose, all right, I talk about it all

848
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 2: the time. Yan was seven of seven of takedowns on

849
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 2: the first fight. He went zero for zero here in

850
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 2: the first fight, Sterling went one for seventeen on takedowns.

851
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 2: Now he only went two for twenty two on this one.

852
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 2: But getting the back exposure and then getting the back

853
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 2: changed the whole equation. Didn't see that happening based on

854
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 2: what had happened the first time. But Sterling went back

855
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 2: to the lab, he did get healthy, he had clearly

856
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 2: had a great camp. And dude, al Jamn Sterling is good.

857
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: He's excellent, he is is. He has a claim as

858
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: the very best bansamweight on this earth. He simply does.

859
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 2: And that guy, and I want to ask this to you, Danny,

860
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:37,720
Speaker 2: that guy endured thirteen months of straight up harassment and bullying.

861
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 2: I remember what fight was I at the last UFC fight.

862
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 2: I think it was like the Connor fight in July

863
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 2: or something against Parier, and I remember they had showed

864
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 2: like it was before the way and started in the

865
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 2: running ads or whatever be roll or on the whatever

866
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 2: on the screens, and they ran an ad for like fighter,

867
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 2: you know, meeting greets out in town, and they had

868
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 2: one for Sterling, who wasn't even in the arena, and

869
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 2: he was getting booed by the fans. I mean, it

870
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 2: was you couldn't go anywhere. And I understand that people

871
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 2: felt disappointed with the results of the first fight, and

872
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 2: you know, who knows how hurt Sterling was, but they

873
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 2: just decided at that point it was going to be

874
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 2: a thirteen month online harassment campaign that spilled over into

875
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 2: real life. And boy did he shove it up all

876
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 2: their asses.

877
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, I would say that Sterling not to

878
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 3: sort of defend the fans, but he did bring it

879
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 3: onto himself a little bit. You know, he's kind of taking,

880
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 3: of course, this road of this so hudo type antics,

881
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 3: and you know, they're very cheesy. A lot of people

882
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 3: don't like them, So I kind of get it. He's

883
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 3: playing up the heel row and look, you got to

884
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 3: get fans to care about you or hate you either

885
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 3: or but just as long as they feel strongly about you,

886
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 3: you know they they're going to pay for the paper

887
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 3: either going to watch your fight. So he's kind of

888
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 3: taking a page out of Henry Shuda's book. So you know.

889
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 3: The hate, Yeah, it's I don't think it's it's warranted.

890
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 3: But again, I feel like at this point in time,

891
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 3: Aljimon Sterling has accepted it. He's like, it is what

892
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 3: it is. I'm just I'm just gonna roll with it.

893
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna roll with it and try to maximize it.

894
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 2: Aside from the first fight. I think the other thing

895
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 2: too that like because algabn Sterling, do you see on

896
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 2: Twitter he put out that like excuse card for all

897
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 2: that people who said Alja Man Sterling was gonna lose,

898
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 2: and you could fill it out and had all the reasons,

899
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 2: and one of them was I only looked at advanced analytics.

900
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. Yeah, if you only look at advanced analytics,

901
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 2: that won't tell you a whole lot. I think the

902
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 2: other part too was we had not seen Yan made.

903
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 2: This was the first time we saw Yon really vulnerable.

904
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 2: I mean, we've seen him lose around, We've seen him

905
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 2: take big shots, we've seen him in you know, difficult moments.

906
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 2: But those two rounds, rounds two to three, we already

907
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 2: saw Aljamn Sterling lose fights. We saw him get knocked

908
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 2: out by Marlon Rerijs like, we saw him experience some lows.

909
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 2: We had never seen that from Yon. Sterling is the

910
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 2: first to produce that an achievement in itself, but I

911
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 2: think also might explain why folks had a greater sense

912
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 2: of his vulnerability. It had just been more on display

913
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 2: up to this point.

914
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think Jan had been dominated the way

915
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 3: he was dominated in those surrounds, ever, and I think

916
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 3: that was a big wake up call for a lot

917
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 3: of people. And also not only talk about Jan's deficiencies,

918
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 3: but what about Aljamin's back take. It might be the

919
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 3: best in the UFC in mma. I mean that control

920
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 3: that he has and just the ability to go from

921
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 3: a takedown into like a scramble and then jump on

922
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 3: the back. That's next level stuff. And it's funny because

923
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 3: he's not Brazilient, so you kind of want to not

924
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 3: discount him, but like you want, you want to give

925
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 3: credit to Dudino Burns and other guys, But I haven't

926
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 3: seen anybody jump to the back and be as quick

927
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 3: as explosive in securing the back as Aljamin Sterling. I

928
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 3: haven't seen anybody in the UFC sort of match him

929
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 3: on that. Even Damian Maya, he was more of a

930
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 3: methodical guy that would work his way to the back.

931
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,919
Speaker 3: Aljamin Sterling goes from zero to sixty. So I think

932
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 3: if you get a really really good grappler and can

933
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,240
Speaker 3: put not not even wrestled, but just do jiu jitsu

934
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 3: with jan, I think there's some some weaknesses there. So

935
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 3: I think definitely aljamiin Sterling exposed them a little bit.

936
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean, and again credit to Yan for surviving.

937
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 2: I mean all that hand fighting from the back. That's

938
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,479
Speaker 2: not easy, you know, So I know what you're saying,

939
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 2: but like, okay, And there was also that time I

940
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 2: think it was like the fourth of the fifth where

941
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 2: Sterling tried to take the back but he was too

942
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 2: high and Yon kind of, yeah, you know, inched his

943
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 2: way out. But as a general rule, you can ask

944
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 2: Cory Sandagan, you can ask Yan in general, not always,

945
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 2: but in general, that dude gets your back. If Sterling

946
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 2: gets your back, you're either going to go out from

947
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 2: a tap or you're gonna get put out, or the

948
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,959
Speaker 2: clock is gonna save you, because otherwise he ain't getting off.

949
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 2: I agree with you. It's not like I don't know

950
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 2: how dangerous he is. And because of Yon's hand fighting

951
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 2: on hand fighting is obviously good, but you know, but

952
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 2: his control from there, his ability to maintain position over time,

953
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 2: it is, it is remarkable. Let's talk about Yan before

954
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 2: we move on to Hamzat. What would you like to

955
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 2: see as a rebound fight from Yon? He could fight

956
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 2: al though, but he already did. He already fought Sam Hagen,

957
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 2: who's still behind him. Where does he go from here?

958
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 3: I'd like to see Yon fight Devilish? Really, I mean

959
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 3: I was there throughout fight week. Jan has said it's

960
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 3: on site with Aljamin Sterling's team. I mean, if I've

961
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,919
Speaker 3: come across them, you know I'm gonna you know, it's

962
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 3: gonna be a fight. And obviously that didn't sit well

963
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 3: with Sterling's team and Morab and ale Quinta has something

964
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 3: to say about that. And look, Morab is the ranked

965
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 3: number six right now, he's coming off a few good

966
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 3: wins and he's ready for that step up. I mean,

967
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 3: he's right outside of the top five. He needs a

968
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 3: guy that's certainly a former champion or has sort of

969
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 3: a bit of status and standing and prestige in the division.

970
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 3: And I think there's a built in rivalry right there.

971
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 3: He said it's on side, Well, why don't we make

972
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 3: that fight. I think it's a good fight. Stylistically, I

973
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 3: think if Jan wants to prove that he's the very

974
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 3: best phantom way, I think he has some answers to

975
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 3: give as far as the some questions to answer as

976
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 3: far as the ground game. And I think Morab obviously

977
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,439
Speaker 3: being a studded grappler, I think, you know, that would

978
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 3: be a solid test for him and a big step

979
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 3: up for Marab. I think that's the fight that I

980
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 3: want to see next. I don't want to see Algo

981
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,240
Speaker 3: versus On, to be honest. I'd rather see all Bivers

982
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 3: his cruise or something like that.

983
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that. And also, you know, Yan

984
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,720
Speaker 2: is very much a technician, and not not that Morob

985
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: is not. But Morob is very much like the most

986
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 2: incredible motor I've ever seen, so it'd be like horsepower

987
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 2: versus technique, and that's unfair. But there's a little bit

988
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 2: of that happening. I like that call. I think it's

989
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 2: a great call. Either guy. A lot to prove with

990
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 2: that one. All right, Tom, speaking speaking of a lot

991
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 2: to prove, let's go to point number three. This one

992
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 2: was as bananas as advertised or I don't know what

993
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 2: people thought, but that this is one of the better

994
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 2: versions of what could have happened here. Okay, Hamza Jamaiah

995
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 2: defeats Gilbert Burns be a unanimous decision in what can

996
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 2: only be described as an insane Fight of the Year

997
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 2: early contender BC. Sorry, Danny, just out of habit, Danny Sigura.

998
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 2: There's a lot to get to here. Let me start

999
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 2: the conversation this way. Is the story of the fight

1000
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 2: that Hamzat impressed, or is the story of the fight

1001
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 2: that Hamzat was disappointing?

1002
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 3: There's only one story here. There's only one story here,

1003
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 3: and that is that hamsas SHIMAIV impressed. For those people

1004
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 3: that are disappointed in hamsay Shimaiev, they're living in a

1005
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 3: fantasy world period, Because ham says SHIMAIV Obviously, there was

1006
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 3: a lot of trashlot going on, and there was a

1007
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 3: lot of promises that he made about this bout that

1008
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 3: he was going to run through Durinho and just put

1009
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 3: him away and dominate him and just put him away

1010
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 3: in the first round. I'm going to tell you guys

1011
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 3: something right now, there's not a single welterweight on the

1012
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 3: planning living today that can do that too. It's just

1013
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 3: not possible. Maybe get me a lucky punch, catch him,

1014
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 3: but as far as dominating him, completely outclassing him and

1015
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 3: then stopping him, there's not a single man that can

1016
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 3: do that today. The champion, Kamadusman, who's arguably the go

1017
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,439
Speaker 3: tried and he even had to fight back from help.

1018
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 3: So this idea that Hamsa shimaiev was going to go

1019
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 3: in there and just absolutely run through Dudinho burns. It's

1020
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 3: obviously a possibility, but honestly not a very realistic one.

1021
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 3: The realistic thing is that this was going to be

1022
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 3: a tough ass fight, because that's what you're in for

1023
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 3: whenever you cross passed with Durma. Now, whether Hamsa Shima

1024
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 3: was going to get his hand raised or not at

1025
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 3: the end of that that was the real question, and

1026
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 3: he did. So. We're talking about a twenty seven year

1027
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 3: old guy that entered a fight with the number two

1028
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 3: guy in the world with just ten fights on his record,

1029
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 3: having made his professional debut in two thousand and eighteen.

1030
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 3: That's not that long ago, guys. And he went in there,

1031
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 3: gave him hell, almost stopped him a couple of times,

1032
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 3: got his hand raised. Dude, what else can you ask

1033
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 3: for a prospect? I mean, what else not even a

1034
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 3: prospect anymore. The question was is Hamsa Sheimaia one of

1035
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 3: the best in the world. We got our answer. He

1036
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,919
Speaker 3: definitely is. And in a fight with Kamara Usman, maybe

1037
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 3: Usman is favored. But the question of whether or not

1038
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 3: hansset could be Dhuzman, I mean, there's definitely a possibility.

1039
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 3: There no doubt about it. Hamsays SHEMAIV is one of

1040
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 3: the best fighters in the world. And if anything, this

1041
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 3: this performance just makes you dream, just makes just goes

1042
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 3: you know, you're able to imagine, just makes your imagination

1043
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 3: go wild, because at twenty seven years old, only what

1044
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 3: four years into your professional career, ten fights in and

1045
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 3: you're already beating the number two guy in the world.

1046
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 3: Give him six months he's gonna evolve so much. I mean, dude,

1047
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 3: this guy's going to be champion at some point, no doubt.

1048
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 3: He is the future of this division. Is going to

1049
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 3: be the immediate future. We'll find out, but he's definitely

1050
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 3: the future, and he will hold gold at some point.

1051
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,479
Speaker 2: What was the what was the vibe where you were

1052
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 2: where in the fight was going on, especially especially after

1053
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 2: the second.

1054
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 3: I think the vibe in the media room everybody was

1055
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 3: kind of just like talking amongst each other. I mean

1056
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 3: worked completely stop, all the laptops where you know, on

1057
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 3: the tables, and it was the fight was very much

1058
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 3: up in the air, and I think that was the

1059
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 3: round where it's like, all right, let's see where Hamsat

1060
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 3: is made up. He clearly had the better round. In

1061
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 3: the first round he did well, have some troubles, but

1062
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 3: overall was pretty dominant. But in the second round he

1063
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 3: really got tested. It got cracked very very hard. And

1064
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 3: now you're stepping in the third round against a monster

1065
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 3: like Dudino Burns that had a lot of momentum going in,

1066
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 3: so it's like, all right, let's see what you're made off.

1067
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 3: And clearly the there was so many questions answered by Hamstas.

1068
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 3: She might have. I mean, there was a lot of

1069
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 3: mystery going into the fight, just because the UFC skipped

1070
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 3: a few steps in the matchmaking process. Usually Hamstas should

1071
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 3: have been fighting a number eight, number seven, something like that,

1072
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 3: not number two. So there was a lot of unanswered

1073
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 3: questions and we got the answers to that. Dude's got

1074
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 3: a chin. Dude can go three rounds. I mean that

1075
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 3: was high paced of three rounds. He can even go

1076
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 3: five rounds. We might have gotten that answer as well.

1077
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 3: He can get hurt and have good survival instincts, still

1078
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 3: make good choices. He's got power all throughout the fifteen minutes,

1079
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,720
Speaker 3: can rustle his ass off his takedown defense. My god,

1080
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 3: is something ridiculous. Dudeaniel Burns was deep on a gable grip,

1081
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 3: even on a squatting position, the strongest position you can

1082
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 3: be in. Try to lift them up and couldn't. There

1083
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 3: was at one point where he shot on him.

1084
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm in agreement with you. I've been. I was

1085
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,800
Speaker 2: so surprised when folks were like, oh, he disappointed me.

1086
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, what what exactly were you? What are we

1087
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 2: expecting him to do? To go in there and you know, uh,

1088
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 2: leap tall buildings and a single back and shoot lasers

1089
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 2: from his eyes. Yeah, I guess that would be disappointing

1090
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 2: if he didn't shoot lasers from his eyes. Yes, that's say.

1091
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 2: What you got was a letdown, folks. Four years uh

1092
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 2: total fifth UFC fight and he to Danny's point, I

1093
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 2: think that's great. Who's gonna go in there and just

1094
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 2: dump truck Gilbert Burns? Probably nobody, not including humzat Chimaia.

1095
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 2: But if you can get a win over a guy

1096
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 2: that good this early, holy crap, you're doing something unbelievably special.

1097
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 2: I think what the problem here is, Danny, is that

1098
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 2: on both sides there's people coming in with impressions. And

1099
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 2: that's I think this is why it made the odds

1100
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 2: what it was. I slept on this I was doing.

1101
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 2: I was doing a lot of looking online last night

1102
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 2: to see what people were saying about Gilbert Burns, because

1103
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 2: your video with him blew up pre fight and ours did.

1104
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 2: Our interview did pretty well. But I know people were

1105
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 2: still they were still watching and even after the fight,

1106
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 2: and I was looking up with some of the comments

1107
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 2: were there, and all my mentions and everywhere else. This

1108
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 2: is anecdotal, it's not a whole lot. Even though Gilbert

1109
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 2: lost to Kamaru and then re bounded against WonderBoy, a

1110
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:09,280
Speaker 2: lot of people discount the WonderBoy win as very boring, safe, uninspiring,

1111
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 2: and therefore to some doesn't tell you that this guy

1112
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 2: is the kind of dog that could meet a guy

1113
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 2: like Hamzat in the middle. I think that's why a

1114
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,720
Speaker 2: lot of folks thought he was going to get dump trucked,

1115
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 2: even though a lot of us were shouting from the

1116
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 2: rooftops like, I don't know, man, this dude's pretty good.

1117
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 2: And you saw him train. We saw him train. He

1118
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 2: was crossing every tea, dotting every eye. I think that

1119
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 2: WonderBoy performance was clouding people's judgment a little bit. And

1120
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,399
Speaker 2: on the other side, Danny, if you and I watched this,

1121
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 2: we talked about this before the fight. We were like,

1122
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, Burns might have something for him,

1123
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 2: but we just didn't know. Let's just sort of see

1124
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 2: what happens here. I think a lot of folks came

1125
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 2: in not just with a artificially reduced impression of Gilbert,

1126
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 2: but they were thinking that Hamzat was ready to beat

1127
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 2: Kamaru tomorrow. It was just way too much expected of him.

1128
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 2: So even thoughough guide to something amazing, he can't know.

1129
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody could do what they're talking about,

1130
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 2: and so therefore it feels like a letdown in that sense. Yeah,

1131
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 2: this is to me the part of the story that

1132
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 2: needs to get told a little bit more. And someone

1133
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 2: else made this point, I'll repeat it here. If to

1134
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 2: do what Hamzad did, you have to be incredibly special

1135
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 2: number one. Okay, Now he managed to get the win.

1136
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 2: Even though some of his weaknesses were made to be

1137
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 2: you saw them for the first time. I'm going to

1138
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 2: go back to the Sterling comparison. By the way, you

1139
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 2: saw some of his weaknesses earlier on, that did not

1140
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 2: determine how this fight on Saturday ultimately went right. We

1141
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 2: should not lose sight of the deficiencies. But you know,

1142
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 2: when you're in your early i should say, mid to

1143
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 2: late twenties, still as a fighter, and you're just now

1144
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 2: having them exposed by the way, that tells you a lot.

1145
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 2: But more to the point, it just sort of says

1146
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 2: they're not career defining. And in fact, you can look

1147
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 2: at a situation where a guy still want Izzy versus

1148
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 2: Gastole and then the question becomes this, what are they

1149
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 2: going to take from this experience? Are they going to

1150
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 2: take from this experience the important parts? Right? Are they

1151
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 2: gonna learn the lessons of I should have maybe done X,

1152
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 2: I should have done Why he wasn't listening to his

1153
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,879
Speaker 2: coach at all and he still managed to beat Gilbert Burns.

1154
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 2: The point I'm trying to make is it's not that

1155
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 2: we didn't see vulnerabilities. Of course, they were always there.

1156
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 2: People just wanted to pretend that they didn't exist because

1157
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 2: they wanted him to be some mythical figure who was

1158
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 2: a superhero because they've been watching too much Avengers movies. Okay, well,

1159
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 2: welcome back to Earth. These are prize fighters, these are humans.

1160
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 2: It doesn't work that way. However, what is very possible

1161
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 2: is you take this existing performance Danny and if he's

1162
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 2: like is he against Gastolum, He's gonna learn from those

1163
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 2: mistakes and be significantly better the next time out, especially

1164
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 2: given his relative youth. Is that not a fair interpretation?

1165
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure. I mean I think Hampsett learned

1166
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 3: a lot about himself here. And again I would have

1167
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 3: to say something catastrophic would have to happen along he's

1168
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 3: developed in process for him not to achieve a potential

1169
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 3: of being UFC champion. I mean, this is everything that

1170
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,320
Speaker 3: he's shown that he's a guy that you know works

1171
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 3: extremely hard, I mean almost too hard. Like his lifestyle

1172
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 3: is just fighting. Like you even see him in his

1173
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 3: time off like rest trying to wrestle Darrn till Darryntil's like, yo, chill,

1174
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 3: like we're not in the you know, we're not in

1175
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 3: the training room right now, but he's just on fight

1176
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 3: mode on Martial Arts More twenty four to seven. So

1177
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,720
Speaker 3: I think you can expect evolution from that guy. I think,

1178
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 3: you know, the whole smash persona and I'm gonna do

1179
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 3: this and I'm gonna run through everybody that's a bit

1180
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 3: of persona. I think that deep down inside he is

1181
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 3: a guy that's very coachable. He is a very humble

1182
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 3: guy when when taking advice, when learning lessons. So I

1183
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 3: do expect him to evolve from this fight. I mean

1184
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 3: there's so many good takeaways, so many things that he

1185
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 3: learned about himself, not only for us the analyst, thefans,

1186
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 3: but like just himself, Like he took really hard shots

1187
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 3: from probably one of the hardest punchers in the division.

1188
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 3: He can now have full confidence that he has an

1189
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 3: amazing chin. He can now have full confidence that he

1190
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,399
Speaker 3: can be in a high paced fight, grueling fight with

1191
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 3: a lot of damage and still performed throughout fifteen minutes.

1192
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 3: I mean, there's just so much to learn. I just

1193
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 3: you just can't help but feel inspired and let your

1194
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 3: imagination run wild when it comes to the future of Hamstead.

1195
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're disappointed, just I don't get. I

1196
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 3: don't get.

1197
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're a clown, is what Danny is trying to

1198
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 2: be nice about. You're a clown. Yeah, that's what I

1199
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 2: would say. Well, here's here's the thing, though, I said

1200
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 2: this on a broadcast. I did that punch that Durno

1201
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 2: landed on him in the second round, Is that the

1202
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 2: hardest punch Durnho's ever landed? Serious question. I know he's

1203
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 2: knocked guys out before, so maybe you could say that

1204
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 2: because it knocked him out. But I'm talking. You know

1205
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 2: that wasn't homsaut your mind. He was landing previous punches

1206
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 2: on dude. Dreno. I mean, he put everything, or nearly

1207
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 2: everything into that and it landed clean as a whistle

1208
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 2: for Hamsat to withstand that alone is remarkable.

1209
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny now that you mentioned it and I'm

1210
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 3: thinking about it. Yeah, Drino sort of knockouts and finished,

1211
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 3: they've sort of graced their opponents. I do think that

1212
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,800
Speaker 3: this is the first time where you know, he connected

1213
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 3: something landed flush and I want to shout out what Rubio.

1214
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 3: He's fairly an unknown figure, one of a Cuban boxing

1215
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 3: trainer here in South Florida that has trained the lights

1216
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 3: of Delphimo Lopez and he does a lot of work

1217
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,879
Speaker 3: with MMA guys and BKFC as well. And yeah, dude,

1218
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 3: he's extensively training with Dudina Burns. His boxing was clearly

1219
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 3: on point in this one. And yeah, I think, I

1220
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 3: know a little bit off topic, but I think this

1221
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 3: racist Dudina's Burns stock a ton as well. I mean,

1222
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 3: who's not excited to see Doudina Burns get back in there.

1223
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 4: Uh.

1224
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 2: In terms of what Hamza did really well, you highlighted

1225
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 2: the takedown defense and there was that one takedown where

1226
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 2: Gilbert I think it was the one you mentioned, had

1227
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,720
Speaker 2: him dead to rights in the third and like a panther,

1228
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 2: he just kind of leaped out of it. And even

1229
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 2: maintained risk control was just ridiculous. So the takedown defense

1230
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 2: was on lead. I thought some of the boxing was

1231
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 2: good too. That jab was from his powerhand. He's normally orthodox.

1232
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 2: He's whitched to southpaw. Gilbert didn't see it coming. It

1233
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 2: cracked him. He had success from that stance the entire time.

1234
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 2: There were some good boxing pivots, there were some good

1235
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 2: leg kicks, There was some decent defense. Although the defense,

1236
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:09,399
Speaker 2: to me, Danny, and this is true for a lot

1237
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 2: of good fighters who are still a little bit newer, right,

1238
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 2: the offense tends to get better quicker than the defense.

1239
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 2: You mentioned him being coachable, did you not so? Two questions? One,

1240
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 2: what did you like from him aside from the takedown defense?

1241
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 2: And two? Was it not true that after the fight

1242
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 2: that Hamzat seemed to recognize that, like listening to his

1243
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 2: coaches was important, that Hello, guys at the very top

1244
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 2: actually are a lot tougher than you think, and that

1245
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 2: he seemed to be realized that like a different approach

1246
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 2: is going to be necessary from here on out.

1247
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he took a lot of lessons. I

1248
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 3: think one of the biggest things that, apart from his

1249
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 3: takedown defense, was just the survival instinct and just you know,

1250
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 3: the attitude when the going gets stuff. You've seen it.

1251
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 3: You know, once adversity hits, some guys get cracked. You know,

1252
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 3: you don't feel well, your head is you know, about

1253
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 3: to explode, you have a huge headache, you know you're exhausted.

1254
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 3: You start acting differently. And Hamstas she might have kept

1255
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 3: that sort of animal inside of him, that dog inside

1256
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 3: of him that makes him who he is, alive the

1257
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 3: entire time. That never went away, So he definitely overcame adversity.

1258
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 3: So I think that's that's a thing that I liked

1259
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 3: a lot. One thing apart from that, you mentioned the

1260
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 3: striking defense. I do think he's because of his wrestling style.

1261
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 3: Because he's so big and so tall, he's always going

1262
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 3: to be a little bit susceptible. He's not your Volkanovsky,

1263
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 3: you know, smaller slim, agile guy who's gonna sort of

1264
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 3: bob and weave and use all this movement to get

1265
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 3: out of strikes. But I do think there's a lot

1266
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 3: of work to be done. I don't think there was

1267
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 3: much head movement from homside. But to his credit, man

1268
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 3: his Chin's baran new Gilbert Burns just you know, just

1269
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 3: sort of inaugurated him into sort of taking damage. So

1270
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 3: I mean, he still has so much miles left in

1271
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 3: his tank because again he hasn't taken much damage and

1272
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 3: so far he's got an amazing chin and I don't

1273
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 3: see that going anytime soon.

1274
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 2: So we're gonna say, if how coachable he is, this

1275
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 2: is a real transition point for him. Potentially it is

1276
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 2: in terms of his status certainly, but in terms of

1277
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 2: where he can go. I will say I do have

1278
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 2: one concern. My one concern is once you get to

1279
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 2: this level sometimes it can be hard to really work

1280
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 2: on your development. That's true, getting to the UFC, that's true,

1281
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 2: getting into the top ten and top five. You have

1282
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 2: to be make sure that like not just that you

1283
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 2: have a ready skill set, but that your process doesn't

1284
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 2: get interfered with. I am a little bit concerned that

1285
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 2: getting to this point as quick as he has could

1286
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 2: delay or derail him or or well, I don't know,

1287
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 2: it may not do anything. One of the things that

1288
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 2: could happen is that he doesn't take the proper lessons,

1289
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 2: or there's not enough time because they throw him to

1290
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 2: the wolves, and something else goes on and Therefore he

1291
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 2: can't get the most out of himself because he is

1292
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 2: now fast tracked in a way where if he had

1293
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 2: gone a little bit slower, he could have worked on

1294
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 2: that more nimbly, something like a Shav caught Rockmanov. Shofcot

1295
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 2: Rockmanhov has taken him much slower approach. I think that's

1296
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 2: partly contractual. I don't know what else I'm you know,

1297
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 2: there could be a few factors in there, not just

1298
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 2: about what kind of competition he feels like he's ready for.

1299
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 2: It's the point I'm trying to make. But even with that,

1300
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 2: he is taking a bit of a slower approach, and

1301
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 2: I think his ascension at or near the top of

1302
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 2: the division is I won't say inevitable, but perhaps likely

1303
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 2: or certain certainly something to watch. I will say that

1304
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 2: concerns me a little bit as we go forward. Now,

1305
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 2: Danny's frozen. Do we got what's do we have a gaff?

1306
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 2: Can the audience hear you? We had Corey set up

1307
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 2: on Friday for that. Can the audience hear you? No,

1308
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 2: Danny's frozen? Okay? With that, I was going to ask

1309
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 2: where we go here with Gilbert, But I don't know

1310
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 2: what the answer would be unless we look at the

1311
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 2: rankings here very quickly. Gilbert was course sitting where was

1312
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 2: he sitting? He was sitting at two. This is going

1313
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 2: to bump him back. I don't think where hams that

1314
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 2: was sitting, which was at eleven, but it might bump

1315
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 2: him probably still inside the top five because you've got

1316
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 2: Leon behind him, Vicente and Balal. I was thinking that

1317
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 2: Gilbert could potentially fight the loser of that because Luke

1318
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 2: and bal Mohammed are sitting respectively at four and five,

1319
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 2: so it would still be within that space. And that's

1320
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 2: a very competitive fight. The only sort of downside there

1321
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 2: is Vicente and Gilbert may I want to fight one another.

1322
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 2: So it kind of trips you up there a little

1323
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 2: bit about which way to go. We're going to work

1324
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 2: on getting Danny back. I mean, it's never going to

1325
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 2: be easy, folks. Technology is your friend, technology is your foe.

1326
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 2: We will march on, all right, Let's move on a

1327
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 2: little bit if we can. Danny will pick up with

1328
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 2: us when we get When he joins us again, let's

1329
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 2: talk about topic number four. Topic number four, let's switch

1330
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 2: gears here a little bit. There will be some more

1331
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 2: UFC analysis on extra credit. But let's talk about Triple

1332
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 2: G here just a little bit. So over the weekend,

1333
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 2: Triple G defeated Rayota Marada in the ninth round to

1334
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 2: unify the IBF ANDWBA middleweight titles. Forty years old, still

1335
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 2: unifying titles, pretty impressive. So the question here is operatively

1336
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 2: it's sort of a similar issue question about Hamzat give

1337
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 2: him that. Hamzad's much totally different space in his career,

1338
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna you'll see the question for Triple G

1339
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 2: is did he prove enough to make any of you

1340
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 2: think that he has a chance with Canel the third

1341
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 2: time around? Given what happened in the first tippened in

1342
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 2: the second setting it up, I'll say this for the fight,

1343
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 2: do you missed it? It was a tale of well,

1344
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 2: there was a real turning point moment I think in

1345
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 2: the fourth of the fifth where Triple G drills Marada

1346
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 2: with a right hand, knocks his mouthpiece out, and Marada

1347
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 2: was really never the same after that. But before that,

1348
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 2: especially in that second and third rounds, dude, Triple G

1349
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 2: was getting eaten alive to the body. Marada had a

1350
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 2: decent game plan to start and look to be as

1351
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 2: in it as he could be. He was pressing Triple

1352
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 2: G back, he was closing the space down, he was

1353
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 2: staying active, and as I mentioned, he was kind of

1354
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 2: getting Triple G to hunch over, hunch over, hunch over,

1355
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 2: and lean out with his elbows and then he was

1356
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 2: digging around to the body and do Triple G was

1357
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 2: backing up. He was visibly covering up you could take

1358
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 2: a long breasts when he could, and then trying to

1359
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 2: strain to hold himself. I mean, he was having a

1360
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 2: ton of problems with it. But he landed a devastating

1361
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 2: right hand about midway through that what ended up being

1362
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 2: the total fight, so about nine rounds or so eight

1363
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 2: rounds and some change, and from there the fight was

1364
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 2: completely different. He was marching Marauda down. He was using

1365
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 2: that quarkscrew punch that he used on my Donna to

1366
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 2: come over the top. But we got Danny back here.

1367
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 2: We'll bring Danny in just a sec. Danny, we're talking

1368
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:36,919
Speaker 2: about Triple G here and how the fight turned about

1369
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 2: halfway through and he came down on him and from

1370
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 2: that point he looked like the Triple G of old.

1371
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 2: So he went to another fighter's backyard after a long

1372
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 2: layoff and dealt with adversity early to show like vintage

1373
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 2: TRIPLEG dot dot dot in the end. So the question

1374
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 2: then goes back to you, Danny, about this. Did he

1375
01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 2: show you enough to make you think he has a

1376
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 2: shot against Canelo in the trilogy? Danny, hang on, your

1377
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 2: your mike, Your mike fell out again. They're gonna they're

1378
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 2: gonna take care of you. So hang on. We'll get

1379
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 2: Danny back here in just a second. We'll take over.

1380
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 2: But I certainly, well, I gotta tell you, I'm actually

1381
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 2: not as high on this as Danny is. Candidly, is

1382
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 2: what Triple G did impressive, no question. Is what he

1383
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 2: did resilient, no question. I do not wish to undermine

1384
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 2: or in any way suggest that what he showed against

1385
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 2: Marada on Saturday was admirable. It absolutely was, especially that

1386
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 2: you know, dude, I mean, Murda took it to him

1387
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 2: and he had to kind of Triple G did wrestle

1388
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 2: the fight back, so to speak, metaphorically speaking, anyway, he

1389
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 2: had to kind of wrestle it back and then from

1390
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 2: there sort of put it on him. Dude, Marata was

1391
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 2: not a wallflower in this contest at all. However, that said,

1392
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:59,919
Speaker 2: even if in the end you saw something approximating vinted

1393
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 2: Triple G with after he lands the right hand and

1394
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 2: he's quarks grew punching him and he's backing him up

1395
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,479
Speaker 2: and he's eating them alive and the whole thing. Yes,

1396
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 2: in the end you got certainly a taste of that.

1397
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 2: But like and Marat is no pushover. But I you know,

1398
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 2: if you couldn't get that done against Canelo, however, many

1399
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 2: years ago at this point the first time, and granted

1400
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 2: the judging was not great, there was I didn't agree

1401
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 2: with it either. And in the second time, now with

1402
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 2: the age kind of catching up with him, I don't

1403
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 2: want to say he looked elderly or infirm, but he

1404
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 2: didn't look as good as he did. Even in the

1405
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:37,479
Speaker 2: second Canelo fight versus even the first, Canello has only

1406
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 2: looked I mean, canelos in his absolute prime at the

1407
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 2: moment he is in the center of the bulls eye

1408
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 2: on the target. It's not that I don't believe that

1409
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 2: Triple G couldn't make it competitive in spots or wouldn't

1410
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 2: necessarily deserve to be there. It's just that, dude, I

1411
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 2: don't I don't know what you could have seen from

1412
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 2: that make you think like, Okay, this is still a

1413
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 2: very competit to fight. By contrast, Holloway took a bit

1414
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 2: of a rough fight against Yair, and you know, I

1415
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 2: think that was much tougher than expected. But he's still

1416
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 2: young enough where I'm like, Okay, the distance between what

1417
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 2: he is now and then the first fight, it is

1418
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 2: some damage. It is worth taking seriously, But I don't

1419
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 2: know that that's like altering my perception of what's possible

1420
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 2: at forty Even as good as he looked in the end,

1421
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 2: the early part of this and sort of the general context,

1422
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 2: it just does not inspire confidence to me about what

1423
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 2: is possible. And also, by the way, we should note

1424
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 2: the trilogy with Canelo is not inevitable. If in any

1425
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 2: way Canelo loses to Bivol, if he loses to Bivol

1426
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 2: won seventy five, then this whole thing has is out

1427
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 2: the window. All right. I really don't know where Danny's at,

1428
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 2: and I don't want to belabor the boxing topics, So

1429
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 2: let's just move here along. If we can point number five,

1430
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 2: we'll talk about quickly the other parts of the weekend

1431
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 2: in boxing, all right, So we start with Ericson Lubin

1432
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 2: and Sebastian Fundora. This was a ridiculous fight of the

1433
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 2: Year candidate on showtime again that same division one hundred

1434
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 2: and fifty four oh sorry, one hundred and fifty four

1435
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 2: pounds the winner here you knew was looking for the

1436
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 2: winner of the rematch just in five weeks from now

1437
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 2: with Charlo and Constagno, and it delivered in all the action.

1438
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 2: One hundred and fifty four pounds and Sebastian Fondora is

1439
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 2: basically with shoes on six foot six and rixon Lubit

1440
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 2: I think is five to nine or so, a dramatic

1441
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 2: difference in frame. It looked like Bruce Lee and what

1442
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 2: was a Game of death or whatever the name of

1443
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 2: that one was. We had to fight Kareem Abdul Jabbar

1444
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 2: in the movies. I mean it resembled that it was

1445
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 2: the guy. They didn't even look to be even remotely

1446
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 2: in the same way class, and yet they were. And Lubin,

1447
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 2: who I thought was going to get a ninth round, stop,

1448
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 2: it's not be the victim of one I thought was

1449
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 2: the slicker boxer. And in moments he kind of what

1450
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 2: for a lot of moments, actually he was the slicker

1451
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 2: boxer of the two. He was going to the body,

1452
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 2: he was using the body, then going upstairs, and early

1453
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 2: on he was kind of sticking and moving. But the

1454
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 2: thing that and by the way, when the fight was

1455
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 2: stopped at the end of the ninth, the corner of

1456
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 2: Lubin tossing it because Lubin's face, I don't know if

1457
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 2: we have any photos of it. His face looked terrible, terrible.

1458
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 2: I don't know what exactly was happening in terms of

1459
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 2: any breaks underneath. In terms of his face, I don't know.

1460
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 2: He had a giant hematoma between the eyes. Here we

1461
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:26,480
Speaker 2: go getting Danny back here, he had a giant hematoma

1462
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 2: between the eyes and it looked like, I don't know,

1463
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 2: he had been stung by some kind of allergic insect

1464
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 2: or some It was weird. It was a bad swelling

1465
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 2: and his corner kind of stopped it. Even though he

1466
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 2: had dropped Fundora in the ninth. This is the point

1467
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:46,839
Speaker 2: I wanted to make, Dude, Fundora was raining on him, constantly, touching, constantly,

1468
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 2: getting in his face, and basically the biggest issue for

1469
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 2: Lubin was not that he couldn't land big punches and

1470
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 2: drop him in the seventh, he could not get Fundora

1471
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 2: off of him. Look At how much damage takes place

1472
01:08:57,360 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 2: by Fundora getting close, pressing the action, pressing into the clinch,

1473
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:03,640
Speaker 2: even though he's the taller guy, and that ended up

1474
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 2: making the difference. Do we have Danny back now? We

1475
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 2: got him back?

1476
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 3: Yeah? I'm here. Can you hear me?

1477
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 4: Here?

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01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 2: We are Hi, Danny Fundora and your impression.

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01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 3: I'm so excited to talk about this fight. I'm actually

1480
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 3: Fundoda fan. The first time that I saw him fight

1481
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 3: was in the undercard for Tyson Fury versus Deontay Wilder too.

1482
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 3: I believe he fought a guy that was like five

1483
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 3: to seven, and I remember just Teddy Atlas in many ways,

1484
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:32,640
Speaker 3: just kind of hammering him, Like, Yo, why is this

1485
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:34,759
Speaker 3: guy fighting in the pocket? Why is this guy fighting

1486
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 3: at close range? Look at his attributes. He should be

1487
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 3: fighting using the jab and using the distance. But Fundoda

1488
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 3: is this weird guy that's so big for the weight

1489
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 3: class sixty six at one fifty four, and yet he's

1490
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 3: able to fight at every single distance even despite is

1491
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 3: you know, big and lanky freight. I mean in the pocket,

1492
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 3: he's very good at medium distance. He's really good. If

1493
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 3: you want to stick, you know, fight at long range.

1494
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:59,719
Speaker 3: He can also do that. I think Sae austinim Fundda

1495
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 3: has as tons of potential. I really like that.

1496
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 2: Kid, And you don't have any issue with the stoppage,

1497
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 2: right dude. Lubin's face, I don't know what was wrong

1498
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 2: with it, but it looked bad.

1499
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 3: Dude, his face has nothing I mean, sorry, Johanna and

1500
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 3: j Hick's forehead has nothing on Lubin's face. I mean

1501
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:18,799
Speaker 3: it looked like it was warping and kind of going

1502
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 3: off to side. It was getting to a point that

1503
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 3: it could be something very dangerous. I don't know if

1504
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 3: there's any update on his injury, but something had to

1505
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 3: be broken, right.

1506
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:30,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, between the eyes, I think even And that was

1507
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 2: the part that really it made me sad because Lubin,

1508
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 2: you know, he really suffered a reputational harm as a

1509
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 2: consequence of the loss to Charlo from that first round

1510
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 2: knockout was terrible and everyone's like, oh, he doesn't have

1511
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 2: a good chin, and he did get knocked down here,

1512
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 2: but this fight wasn't stopped because his chin failed him.

1513
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 2: This fight was stopped because some kind of injury was

1514
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 2: looking really dangerous and so Lubin while he was and

1515
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 2: that was in part Lubin was winning on the scorecards.

1516
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 2: But dude, to me, it's like Fundora's capacity for volume.

1517
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 2: It doesn't make sense that he fights this way, but

1518
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:04,600
Speaker 2: beating a guy as quality as Lubin, he is the

1519
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 2: rightful guy to challenge for all the belts, whoever wins

1520
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 2: between Charlo and Castania, it's it.

1521
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 3: One hundred per dude, And he's he looks like a

1522
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 3: really good kid. He's got a good head on his shoulders.

1523
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 3: He almost has sort of like an innocence to him

1524
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 3: a little bit. And dudey, I mean, he's definitely working hard,

1525
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 3: and I give him a chance against the winner of

1526
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 3: Chad Lovers as Gastana. He's probably gonna be the underdog obviously,

1527
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 3: but he's evolving. He works hard at the gym, you

1528
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 3: can tell, and he's disciplined and he definitely has a shot.

1529
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 2: And if you're asking which belt that is, since Charlo

1530
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 2: and Castana are fighting for all of the major ones

1531
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 2: in the weight class, this is the interim one, so

1532
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:41,719
Speaker 2: you know, nice that he got one. But he even

1533
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 2: said I want the real one, I want the one,

1534
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 2: and I didn't think he was going to do it either, dude,

1535
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:46,680
Speaker 2: I really thought Lublin was going to get it. But

1536
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 2: Candora extremely impressive in his in his win. All right,

1537
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 2: let's talk about this over on his own, Ryan Garco

1538
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 2: demolished Emmanuel Tago. I think it's how they pronounce it,

1539
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 2: not to go but Tago and the unanimous decision victory,

1540
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 2: like obviously has said on his OWNE Okay, I gotta

1541
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 2: tell you. This was his first new fight with Joe Goosen.

1542
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 2: He trained with him a long time ago. He'd been

1543
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 2: more recently with in Canelo's team with Eddie Reno so

1544
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 2: Gooson known for a come forward fight style. Now, Danny

1545
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 2: you know this as well as I do. Depending on okay,

1546
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 2: we may have further technical difficulties with Danny. We'll see

1547
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 2: what happens. But this is the point I wanted to

1548
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 2: make you guys, let me know if he's around. This

1549
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 2: is the point if you watch this fight and Dezonne,

1550
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 2: by the way, even if you're not a his zone subscribers,

1551
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 2: just sort of a heads up. They put out like

1552
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes of highlights on this. It wasn't that Ryan

1553
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 2: Garcia didn't look good. He looked fine. It wasn't that

1554
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 2: he didn't have big punches or he dropped a you know,

1555
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 2: Tago in the second he did. But and again a

1556
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 2: huge part of this could be Garcia looked a certain

1557
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 2: way based on who he was fighting. He wouldn't try

1558
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 2: some of those things against somebody else who might offer

1559
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 2: more of a threat. Fair enough, but I did not

1560
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 2: love the way that he fought, not because it cost him.

1561
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 2: It didn't, not because it was not exciting at times

1562
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 2: it was. But what really bummed me out was that,

1563
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 2: like a it wasn't as effective as it needed to be,

1564
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 2: partly because of Tago's game plan, but the other part

1565
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:19,680
Speaker 2: was it left like so much wide open space for

1566
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:25,520
Speaker 2: counterattacks that yes, while I outside wonder if those openings

1567
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 2: were a function of just who he fought, but I

1568
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 2: don't know, because Tago was kind of connecting a little

1569
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 2: bit later in the fight. I'm just pointing out, if

1570
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 2: that's the way he fought just this time, no problem,

1571
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 2: no problem, It's fine for what it was. If that's

1572
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 2: his new style. And again it's not all he looked

1573
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 2: completely new, but you know, really emphasizing certain parts of

1574
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 2: the Ryan Garcia experience. If that's what he takes into

1575
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 2: fights against Devin Haney, Lopez, Cambosis, Davis or you know,

1576
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 2: we'll see if he goes to one forty or not.

1577
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:00,719
Speaker 2: But if he fights any of those guys with that style,

1578
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 2: he's going to get lit on fire. That is not

1579
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 2: a style at all that's going to serve him well

1580
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 2: against the very best that this division has to offer.

1581
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 2: And again, I'll say it, a lot of guys. Taylor

1582
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:15,639
Speaker 2: was his first fight back in fifteen months. He'd had surgery,

1583
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 2: he'd changed camps, he had flirted with and I should say,

1584
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 2: let me be more accurate about it. He had talked

1585
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 2: about publicly serious mental health issues. Fine, I don't getting

1586
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 2: a win here was important, and they selected an opponent

1587
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 2: where they made that possible as they could. Fine, I'm

1588
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 2: just telling you, if what you saw in this fight

1589
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 2: is taken over to any fight against anybody who's really

1590
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 2: respected this division, Ryan Garcia is going to taste the

1591
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:44,760
Speaker 2: canvas a lot. Danny, you saw this fight, you know

1592
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:47,320
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about. Do you share my trepidation or

1593
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 2: do you have a more optimistic view?

1594
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 3: I do share him, but I do have also a

1595
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:55,639
Speaker 3: little bit of a more optimistic view in the sense that, yes,

1596
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 3: he does have these deficiencies in his striking defense, and

1597
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 3: you know, against a big puncher like Tank Davis or

1598
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 3: some of the other guys, or somebody as technical as

1599
01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 3: as Hany like, that's that's definitely gonna cost him. But

1600
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:10,680
Speaker 3: at the same time, how old is Ryan like twenty three,

1601
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 3: twenty four? Yeah, I mean, yeah, he's still very very young.

1602
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 3: Tank Davis is like twenty seven. All these other guys

1603
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 3: have like a few years above them. So in uh,

1604
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 3: in evolution, in training and fights and experience, et cetera,

1605
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 3: et cetera, And I like that he's now with Joe Goosen.

1606
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:30,240
Speaker 3: Joe Goosen is obviously a very respective coach, a veteran

1607
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 3: there you somebody that's very structured, someone that's very serious,

1608
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 3: someone that's not gonna be just a yes man. So

1609
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 3: we'll see, we'll see. I think the the evolution is

1610
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:43,679
Speaker 3: still very early into Ryan's career, but just because he's

1611
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 3: such a big star, we're already kind of putting him

1612
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 3: up with these bigger names that are far farther along

1613
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:52,760
Speaker 3: in the evolution and u and in that progress. So

1614
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 3: so well, let's wait and see if these striking deficiencies

1615
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 3: still exists. A year two from now, we don't see improvement.

1616
01:15:58,520 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 3: I think there's something to worry.

1617
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:03,720
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, long review is certainly warranted. Here one

1618
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:05,759
Speaker 2: more note on this fight before we move on to DMS.

1619
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 2: I was looking. I always check YouTube trending on various

1620
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 2: points of Sunday, and these are all, you know, a

1621
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:14,720
Speaker 2: function of what your geographic location is, So if you're

1622
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 2: in the UK, you'll have a different one than if

1623
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 2: you're in the United States. But here in the States.

1624
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 2: I checked it on Sunday several different times of all

1625
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 2: the fights that took place over the weekend, so triple G,

1626
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 2: so the Showtime one, so UFC, and now this one,

1627
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 2: the one that was highest up in terms of the rankings,

1628
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:31,960
Speaker 2: sitting at number two as the highest I saw it

1629
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 2: may have gone higher. Was the Ryan Garcia fight the

1630
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:39,559
Speaker 2: highlights on his own. There were more UFC Hamzat videos

1631
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 2: on the top twenty five or whatever it is, so

1632
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 2: there was more of them, but the highest placed one

1633
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 2: was Ryan Garcia. Do he is still extremely popular as

1634
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 2: an attraction?

1635
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, huge? And he taps into the pop culture

1636
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 3: audience like the sort of Jake Pauls and Knelt Boys

1637
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 3: and sort of he's friends with all those people, so

1638
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 3: you know, he's definitely into like another world beyond the

1639
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:05,760
Speaker 3: combat sports well as far as Star Wars and look,

1640
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I think he he obviously has a lot

1641
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 3: of traction. I don't know if we're going to discuss

1642
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 3: what's next for him, but I want to see him

1643
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 3: in a big fight. I think it's so early in

1644
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:15,760
Speaker 3: his career that even if he text and ol dude,

1645
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:17,680
Speaker 3: there's so much time to recover and it'll be like

1646
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 3: a redemption story, et cetera, et cetera. I think the

1647
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 3: time is now to put Ryan Garcia in a big fight.

1648
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:26,160
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know. I have a little

1649
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:28,679
Speaker 2: bit more concern than you. Your point is well taken,

1650
01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 2: but this was this was this was to me. He

1651
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 2: looked a little rusty to me. He looked rusty to me.

1652
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 2: He didn't look rusty to you.

1653
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 3: I mean, he had him fought in a while, broke,

1654
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:41,559
Speaker 3: you know, suffered issues with the hand. Also, as you mentioned,

1655
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 3: the mental health issues. And also, let's be fair, his

1656
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:46,839
Speaker 3: appointment didn't go in there to fight, man. His appointing

1657
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:48,719
Speaker 3: just went to go to the distance. And and that's

1658
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 3: tough in MMA. It's it's a lot easier to get

1659
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 3: a guy out out of there if they don't want

1660
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 3: to fight you. But in boxing with those big gloves,

1661
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:58,720
Speaker 3: it's it's a lot easier to you know, sort of

1662
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 3: carry yourself and put yourself in a decision and just

1663
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 3: lose every single round. I mean, I saw Yoldrim go

1664
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:06,559
Speaker 3: three rounds with Canelo. You know what I'm saying in

1665
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 3: MMA that would never happen like a world class fighter,

1666
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 3: you know, going three rounds with with somebody that's that's

1667
01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 3: not so great. So I think he did a little

1668
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:16,840
Speaker 3: look a little bit rusty, but he's appointing. Had a

1669
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:17,679
Speaker 3: lot to deal with it too.

1670
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 2: All Right, that concludes our top five topics here for

1671
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 2: the day. Let's move now to the next segment of

1672
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:27,679
Speaker 2: the show. It's time for dms from donks. That's where

1673
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 2: all the donks get to ask us questions. He haul

1674
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:33,559
Speaker 2: all right, you guys know how it works. Every Sunday,

1675
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 2: we post a little video or I'm sorry, a little

1676
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:40,599
Speaker 2: photo on Instagram and then in the comments we asked

1677
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 2: for your submissions, the producers pick them. I haven't seen them,

1678
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:47,680
Speaker 2: but I think I have them now if I'm not mistaken.

1679
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 2: Let's see do I have him there, Gaff just put

1680
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 2: them up on the screen. It doesn't matter, doesn't matter,

1681
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 2: all right? From buzz the blog is ray Longo underappreciated

1682
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:04,680
Speaker 2: by MMA fans and media. He coached Matt Sarah to

1683
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:07,439
Speaker 2: beat GSP, He coached Chris Widman to beat Anderson Silva.

1684
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:09,639
Speaker 2: Now he just coached al Jamn Sterling to beat Peter

1685
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:13,360
Speaker 2: Jan Piotryan. Is it time, Danny Segura for everyone to

1686
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:17,120
Speaker 2: put some respect over there on ray Longo's name? All right,

1687
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 2: all right, so Danny's gone. I'm not sure what we're

1688
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 2: gonna do about this, because this is an ongoing challenge.

1689
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 2: So what I will say to that is it's a

1690
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:26,320
Speaker 2: fair point by Danny. The only point that I would

1691
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 2: raise here is I lived through the post Sarah and

1692
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:34,559
Speaker 2: post Wideman media cycles where he got a lot of attention,

1693
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 2: and all of it was warranted. So to me, you know,

1694
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:41,559
Speaker 2: I may have slept on Sarah, and I did pick

1695
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 2: Wideman to beat Silva, by the way, so that wasn't

1696
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 2: as much of a surprise, But certainly I'd never thought

1697
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:47,639
Speaker 2: in a million years Sarah was gonna win, So that

1698
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:51,559
Speaker 2: was no shock at all. Or that's sorry that was

1699
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:54,240
Speaker 2: the the I mean, that was you know, I never

1700
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 2: never saw that coming. So I think that there might

1701
01:19:57,479 --> 01:20:00,200
Speaker 2: be an argument to be made that, Like you know,

1702
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:03,200
Speaker 2: through various years media cycles that there's not enough attention

1703
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 2: on Longo these days, but I could tell you over

1704
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 2: the course of his career, he's gotten a lot of

1705
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 2: praise from folks. The the bigger point for me is that,

1706
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 2: you know, for Longo to do what he's doing is

1707
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:23,880
Speaker 2: is is remarkable, But I understand why, like like when

1708
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:25,639
Speaker 2: when when Sterling is like, how did all these people

1709
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 2: get it wrong? Dude? If all we have we're not

1710
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:30,720
Speaker 2: there with Longo. You know, all we have is what

1711
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 2: we saw, what we what they in the first fight,

1712
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:35,559
Speaker 2: what they say in the media clips of training footage,

1713
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 2: and that's it. There's not much. There's not much to

1714
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 2: go on besides that. It's it. We have very little

1715
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 2: information about what's to to to make a determination. So

1716
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 2: of course you're gonna have incomplete information. You know, Longo

1717
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 2: is there, he can see it all, They can bring

1718
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:55,800
Speaker 2: this all to bear and so he can go in

1719
01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:57,680
Speaker 2: there with a lot of confidence. Like you heard some

1720
01:20:57,720 --> 01:20:59,799
Speaker 2: of the things he was telling Al Jabin between rounds,

1721
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 2: like different fight blah blah blah. You know, he has

1722
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:04,640
Speaker 2: this long arc of history. He can see all this

1723
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 2: stuff and he's there day to day. So like, you know,

1724
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 2: this is sort of a separate question rather than you know,

1725
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 2: who likes Longo? Who does it? Does he get enough praise?

1726
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 2: I think if you've been around long enough, you've seen

1727
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:15,639
Speaker 2: Longo definitely get his flowers. But yes, this only adds

1728
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 2: to the mystique. But I was just sort of making

1729
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 2: a larger point. You know, he's going to have a

1730
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 2: very inspired view of Aljaman, in part because they trained

1731
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:23,880
Speaker 2: together and they're you know, they're close in association, but

1732
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 2: also because he was there for the last camp. That's

1733
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 2: a lot of information I didn't I didn't know if

1734
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:30,320
Speaker 2: he could do that. It turns out he could. Next question,

1735
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 2: here we go. Now, I got these in front of

1736
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 2: me from O'Reilly seven four zero two. Which fighter has

1737
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:41,040
Speaker 2: the better chance of becoming a UFC champ or at

1738
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:43,639
Speaker 2: least having the best better career in the UFC Petty

1739
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:51,679
Speaker 2: Pimblet or Ian Gary Well becoming champ? I'll say Gary,

1740
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 2: but they're both very far from that. And that's not

1741
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 2: does not me hayten, that's just saying just watching their

1742
01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 2: placement does not in any way mean and they won't

1743
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:03,600
Speaker 2: get there. But there they've got work to do in

1744
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 2: terms of having the better career. Patty looks to me

1745
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:07,840
Speaker 2: like he's already got a lot of popularity to work

1746
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 2: with and if he can usefully manage that and turn

1747
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 2: it into something we just talked about. Korean Zombie. Now,

1748
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:16,320
Speaker 2: Korean Zombie's mystique is based off of not just you know,

1749
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 2: taking a lot of punches, but also getting a twister,

1750
01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 2: knockout wins, all the kinds of things he's done to

1751
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 2: capture the fan base. So you have to go in

1752
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 2: there and do that. But in terms of, like you know,

1753
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:30,320
Speaker 2: obviously where they're at, I'll say I have a higher

1754
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 2: I don't have enough information to answer this one very accurately.

1755
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:37,479
Speaker 2: My feeling as it stands you're asking me this today

1756
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:41,280
Speaker 2: is that I have a higher upside view of Gary.

1757
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 2: But I don't know that that's true. I could be

1758
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 2: totally wrong. So take there for what it's worth, all right.

1759
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:54,120
Speaker 2: From the ever reliable telvin Key Papa best MMA walkout

1760
01:22:54,240 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 2: song ever, The Zombie by the Cranberry is probably up there.

1761
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 2: Anybody who says Sweet Caroline should be defenestrated. It's the

1762
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:07,599
Speaker 2: worst fucking song ever. It's never been cool, it's never

1763
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 2: been good. You can only sing it when you're drunk.

1764
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:11,720
Speaker 2: No One, I mean no one really wants to sing

1765
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:14,040
Speaker 2: that sober, and it's a good reason for that. It

1766
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 2: fucking sucks and I hate it. So let's put that

1767
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 2: as the number one most awful. But if we're talking best,

1768
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:22,760
Speaker 2: that's a good one. I've seen some other you know,

1769
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 2: when he used to come out. This sounds antiquated, but

1770
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 2: when Vanderli Silva used to walk out to Sandstorm by

1771
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:32,559
Speaker 2: Drude and Pride, that was huge and that song blows,

1772
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 2: But like that walkout was epic. So those are up there.

1773
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 2: What's some other good ones? I think Tony Ferguson's got

1774
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 2: a great walkout song with like the sort of eighties

1775
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 2: b boy dance thing. But those are probably some top

1776
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:55,280
Speaker 2: top ones, all right? From tv GC MMA. Should UFC

1777
01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 2: introduce yellow cards like in Pride though, for inaction, for

1778
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:02,559
Speaker 2: both ground up, ground and stand up. I've long believed

1779
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:04,519
Speaker 2: that this is a great thing. There was you heard.

1780
01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 2: There was a little bit of chatter on Twitter on

1781
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 2: Saturday night when when uh Joe Rogan was like, I

1782
01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:10,640
Speaker 2: don't believe in stand ups if at all. If a

1783
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:12,479
Speaker 2: guy can hold you down, then that's what you should.

1784
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:15,120
Speaker 2: You should hold it down. There's this sense, and I

1785
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 2: think that's wrong by the way. I mean, it's just

1786
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:18,679
Speaker 2: a difference of opinion, But I would disagree with Rogan

1787
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:21,840
Speaker 2: pretty considerably for a lot of reasons. One is that

1788
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:23,680
Speaker 2: people think a fight should be pure, and that you

1789
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:26,280
Speaker 2: shouldn't interfere with it in some way by putting certain

1790
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:28,559
Speaker 2: rules and restrictions on it. And the thing that is

1791
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:30,719
Speaker 2: most open is the one that is the most truthful

1792
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 2: and therefore should not in any way be altered altered.

1793
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 2: I don't really agree with that. I mean, yes, you

1794
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 2: don't want to have so much heavy handedness that the

1795
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 2: fight becomes unrecognizable to what it should be. But what

1796
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 2: I would say is having a mechanism. First of all,

1797
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 2: there's no such thing as a fight's purity. More to

1798
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:49,719
Speaker 2: the point, you know, wrestling is a part of mma.

1799
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:57,240
Speaker 2: In wrestling, the referees are aggressive about enforcing action. Borrowing

1800
01:24:57,320 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 2: wrestling without wrestling's mech mechanisms for making wrestling even remotely

1801
01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:07,559
Speaker 2: exciting seems like a terrible idea right, Yes, we want

1802
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:10,640
Speaker 2: the sport to be authentic, okay, as possible, but we

1803
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 2: are selling tickets to this. There does need to be,

1804
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:16,439
Speaker 2: if not an entertainment quotion, the action needs to keep

1805
01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 2: moving unless there are of very specific considerations like someone's

1806
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:24,680
Speaker 2: got the back or whatever. Short of that, we got

1807
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:26,559
Speaker 2: to keep this thing moving. It's better for the sport.

1808
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:30,719
Speaker 2: I think it's better for the observational experience, and it

1809
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 2: is part and parcel of what makes sport what it is.

1810
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 2: If you want sport to be listen, if you wanted

1811
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 2: to have MMA fights where there weren't time limits and

1812
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:42,599
Speaker 2: whatever else outside of commission restriction, if you can find

1813
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 2: a place to do it and you want to do

1814
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 2: it as an experiment to see what would happen, that's fine.

1815
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:47,640
Speaker 2: I don't think you get a better product in the

1816
01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:53,559
Speaker 2: end from a CLP film. Herbdan made the right call

1817
01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:56,439
Speaker 2: by stopping Vulcan KZ when he did, but only after

1818
01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:59,120
Speaker 2: both Zombie's corner and the ring doctor said he was

1819
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 2: okay to continue. This again brings up the tenuous issue

1820
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 2: who should stop the fight when the fighter is too

1821
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 2: tough for their own good? Well, it's why you don't

1822
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 2: want one or the other. It's why you want the

1823
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 2: referee to have that capacity. For the ring side. Well,

1824
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 2: only the ring side doctor can do it, but once

1825
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:17,120
Speaker 2: the fight is starting, the referee can do it, the

1826
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:19,160
Speaker 2: corner can wave it off, and then the doctor can

1827
01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:21,639
Speaker 2: tell the referee what his opinion is or her opinion.

1828
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 2: You want all of those safety valves in place in

1829
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:27,120
Speaker 2: case there are multiple forms of failure, and in fact,

1830
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:29,440
Speaker 2: that's how you would have to get to a situation

1831
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:31,720
Speaker 2: where in fact you had that. You would have to

1832
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 2: get to a moment where all of those safety valves

1833
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:41,479
Speaker 2: have failed, and then the fight keeps going, but you

1834
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:44,080
Speaker 2: want as many of those in place as possible. Now,

1835
01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 2: what that ends up doing is it creates this sort

1836
01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:48,559
Speaker 2: of situation where it's like, well, you do it, No,

1837
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 2: you do it, No, you do it, No, you do it,

1838
01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 2: and then nobody ends up doing it. But in general,

1839
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:56,280
Speaker 2: what I would say is that's not typically the biggest problem.

1840
01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 2: The biggest problem is that the people who don't want

1841
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:01,080
Speaker 2: to do it. The doctor is going to be a

1842
01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:05,639
Speaker 2: little bit more forgiving and the corners in mma. You know, listen,

1843
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:07,560
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that the Korean zombie doesn't have a

1844
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:09,720
Speaker 2: good corner. He has a great corner. Those guys know

1845
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:11,000
Speaker 2: a lot about him, and I know that they care

1846
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 2: about him. All those things are true. But when it

1847
01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 2: come that they should not have sent him back out

1848
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:17,200
Speaker 2: there for that fourth round, they did not do him

1849
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 2: any favors. I strenuously disagree with that decision to do that,

1850
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:22,720
Speaker 2: even in a title fight. You saw what it got him,

1851
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:26,920
Speaker 2: didn't get him anything. And I as a general perspective,

1852
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:29,559
Speaker 2: I believe in MMA, we're gonna have to see something

1853
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:31,920
Speaker 2: tragic happen before there's any wake up call on this.

1854
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 2: I don't think you can argue there's nothing I Luke

1855
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 2: Thomas can say to convince people who have been in

1856
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:41,360
Speaker 2: cornering for five, ten, fifteen years, or however long it's been,

1857
01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:43,160
Speaker 2: who've been in these gyms, who've been in coaching. I'm

1858
01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:44,760
Speaker 2: going to come up here and declare to them, you

1859
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 2: should stop this fight. They're gonna get tell me to

1860
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 2: go fuck myself until something catastrophic happens that speaks to

1861
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 2: these little broader concerns that people raise. There won't be

1862
01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 2: a Eureka moment just the way it goes, unfortunately, just

1863
01:27:57,000 --> 01:28:02,760
Speaker 2: the reality of things, so that all right. Uh, we're

1864
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:06,800
Speaker 2: almost done here because we've had all right, I guess

1865
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:08,639
Speaker 2: I just have to end this one on my on

1866
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:11,240
Speaker 2: my own, last but not least we do odds and ends.

1867
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:13,040
Speaker 2: So I put out a call for have you seen

1868
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 2: this shit stuff? And then you guys sent me. There

1869
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:17,840
Speaker 2: was a few good ones. There was a few good ones,

1870
01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:21,280
Speaker 2: but the overwhelming majority was stuff I couldn't use. Someone

1871
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 2: literally sent me a TikTok of just appreciating wonder woman's ass.

1872
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 2: I was like, it's not anything I can really use today,

1873
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:35,479
Speaker 2: thank you, Okay, Be that as it may. Odds and ends.

1874
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:37,679
Speaker 2: I did want to remind folks of the upcoming Delator

1875
01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:39,599
Speaker 2: fight card. I don't know if we have a picture

1876
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 2: of it or a video of it or not. If

1877
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:43,519
Speaker 2: we do, I'd like to see it just the same.

1878
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 2: But I wanted to remind folks Friday on Showtime. Here

1879
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 2: it is McKee Pitbull two two world title fights Friday

1880
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:51,559
Speaker 2: on Showtime. This is not Showtime pay per view, of course,

1881
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:54,200
Speaker 2: just regular old Showtime. So Showtime dot com thirty to

1882
01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 2: day free Trophya like it, you can keep it? If not,

1883
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:58,559
Speaker 2: Pound Sand. By the way, Showtime did not ask me

1884
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 2: to make this my odds and ends. I'm doing this

1885
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:03,600
Speaker 2: because listen, you guys know, when Bellatour doesn't put on

1886
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:05,680
Speaker 2: a good product, I'm gonna say it sucks. I don't care.

1887
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:07,760
Speaker 2: I don't It doesn't bother me at all. I'm not

1888
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 2: going to tell you, guys, something I think is bad

1889
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:12,000
Speaker 2: is good just because of who I work for. And

1890
01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:14,360
Speaker 2: if they don't like it, tough. But here's what I'm

1891
01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:17,200
Speaker 2: gonna do. If the product is good, I'm going to

1892
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 2: tell you this is a good product. Nemcov versus Anderson,

1893
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 2: to me, has very much the winner, getting a rightful

1894
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Speaker 2: claim to being the very best lightweight on Earth. And

1895
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:29,479
Speaker 2: again that's debatable, certainly, of course, no doubt about it.

1896
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:31,840
Speaker 2: And everyone's like, oh, Corey Anderson's lost in the UFC. Well,

1897
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:33,519
Speaker 2: if you haven't been paying attention to what he's been doing,

1898
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:35,840
Speaker 2: you're missing out on some pretty epic performances. And if

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01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:39,080
Speaker 2: a deem Nemkov appears to be the real deal, Holyfield

1900
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:43,519
Speaker 2: shocking what he can do, how how talented. He is

1901
01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:46,599
Speaker 2: not perfect by any stretch, but he's got so much

1902
01:29:46,680 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 2: going for him. And then you have the greatest fighter

1903
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:51,760
Speaker 2: in Bella Tour history against the greatest homegoing product I've

1904
01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:53,719
Speaker 2: maybe ever seen. Top to bottom. Here we have Danny

1905
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:57,320
Speaker 2: coming on in incredible fight card. Danny thoughts on this

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Speaker 2: fight card. Sorry by all the technical issues, it is

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01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:01,280
Speaker 2: what it is. We have very particular setup. It's not

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Speaker 2: what people think, so it's hard to explain. But in

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Speaker 2: any case, your thoughts on this on this particular fight.

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Speaker 3: Card, just real quick. I know somewhere BC has a

1911
01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:14,280
Speaker 3: big smile on his face, but anyways, neither here or there, dude,

1912
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Speaker 3: this fight card is amazing. I mean McKee is. I

1913
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:20,000
Speaker 3: don't know exactly where he's at, but it certainly he's

1914
01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:23,240
Speaker 3: a great fighter and among the very best, and the

1915
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Speaker 3: more he fights, the more answers we get. So certainly

1916
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Speaker 3: one of the great one of the greats that we're

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Speaker 3: seeing at one hundred and forty five pounds, So that's

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Speaker 3: a must watch. If he wins the rematch convincingly, just

1919
01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:35,880
Speaker 3: as he did the first fight, dude, I mean he's

1920
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Speaker 3: up there. He's in that conversation for sure, and the

1921
01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:40,519
Speaker 3: same thing can be said about like Headway, Cory Anderson

1922
01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 3: was a top contender in the UFC. The deem Nankov

1923
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:45,080
Speaker 3: seems to be the real deal and just running through

1924
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Speaker 3: everyone as well. I'm super excited for these beltber fights, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, and then for you, your odds and ends are

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Speaker 2: what good sir?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I don't know if we want to play

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Speaker 3: the video, but so I wanted to get not provide

1929
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Speaker 3: an update, but more to provide like a lack of

1930
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Speaker 3: update on za Beat. Maga met Sharipov. Obviously we just

1931
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 3: saw the Featherwave title being displayed on Saturday, so he's

1932
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:11,599
Speaker 3: very relevant in the conversation. But I had asked Alia

1933
01:31:11,680 --> 01:31:13,760
Speaker 3: Dilla Size, his manager, maybe like a month ago at

1934
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:16,400
Speaker 3: an Egofciven, hey what's up with the Beat? He kind

1935
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:18,400
Speaker 3: of danced around the answer and said, look, Zebat's going

1936
01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 3: to come back. Whenever he's going to come back. I

1937
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:23,599
Speaker 3: asked Dana White at the presser on Saturday, Hey, what's

1938
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 3: going on with the Beat? I don't know what's going

1939
01:31:25,320 --> 01:31:27,720
Speaker 3: on with Sabi and he was like genuinely surprised. That

1940
01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:32,760
Speaker 3: kind of question took him by surprise. So I don't

1941
01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 3: know what's going on with the Beast. So the question

1942
01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:36,960
Speaker 3: that I want to throw to you is has his

1943
01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:40,000
Speaker 3: body of work expired? Can we forget about him as

1944
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:41,960
Speaker 3: a contender? Now and he has to start over when

1945
01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:44,720
Speaker 3: he comes back, because the last time he fought, scientists

1946
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:47,840
Speaker 3: didn't didn't even know COVID nineteen existed. And I'm not

1947
01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:52,080
Speaker 3: talking about the Florida scientists, talking about the old ones.

1948
01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:53,479
Speaker 3: I think this is the last time he fought was

1949
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Speaker 3: back in November twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 2: For we have audio. They have the audio of this.

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Speaker 2: Let's look.

1952
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Speaker 3: I saw the featherweight belt on the line, A lot

1953
01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:05,800
Speaker 3: of contenders obviously in the division, but a lot of

1954
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:08,960
Speaker 3: people are wondering what's going on with the beat? Magamature repoff?

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Speaker 3: Do you do you know what's going on with him?

1956
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Speaker 3: What's the update? He hasn't fought in a while, and

1957
01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:15,840
Speaker 3: you just haven't what's going on with a beat?

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Speaker 4: What's the beat? I don't know what's going on with

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01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:20,120
Speaker 4: a beat? Yeah, I don't know the answer to that question.

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Speaker 3: When's the last time you talked?

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Speaker 4: I haven't, I haven't done. Yeah, I don't know what's

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Speaker 4: going on. The matchmakers would know what's going on with that.

1963
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Speaker 4: I don't. I have no idea.

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Speaker 3: You had spoken about Magamature ripoff and the beat and

1965
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Speaker 3: sort of his future, and you said that you were

1966
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Speaker 3: gonna go and meet with the UFC and discuss what's next, doubt,

1967
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Speaker 3: and you said, like in the next couple of weeks,

1968
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:45,080
Speaker 3: meaning almost a month ago, Now, can you give us

1969
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Speaker 3: an update on him?

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Speaker 5: Let me give you an update. What about the eagle

1971
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Speaker 5: FC is rating they have I think total of nine

1972
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Speaker 5: hundred and thirty views to fifty seven percent in the US,

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Speaker 5: twenty percent in Kindada. Russia is the fourth. I believe

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Speaker 5: Australia of the third right. I think they eagle see

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Speaker 5: the ratings of the roof, Honestly I would. I didn't

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Speaker 5: believe it, and I went back to the guys who

1977
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Speaker 5: run this place. I say, can he give me the numbers?

1978
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Speaker 5: And they give me the numbers, and I think p

1979
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Speaker 5: Phil to almost get one million views for the first show,

1980
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Speaker 5: I think it was unbelievable. We'll get back to Zabet Zabet.

1981
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Speaker 5: I think I don't know what zabeat down. You know,

1982
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Speaker 5: when he's rated fight, he's gonna let me know. But

1983
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Speaker 5: for right now, he's not doing nothing.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate the time, Ali, I know we got a

1986
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Speaker 3: press for that's about the stuff. So appreciate the time.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: All right, yeah, there, so there you have it.

1989
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Speaker 3: Very cryptic stuff. And if you look at his Instagram,

1990
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Speaker 3: he's not really training. It's mostly him helping his brother Hassan,

1991
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Speaker 3: who's a very good fighter in Belator. And also, you

1992
01:33:45,680 --> 01:33:48,559
Speaker 3: know how I'm super annoying with my nineteen ninety seven

1993
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Speaker 3: land Rower Discovery and I take mad pictures of it

1994
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Speaker 3: and put it on Instagram. He's the same way, but

1995
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Speaker 3: the Caucus Mountain version. He has this badass black horse

1996
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Speaker 3: and takes pictures of the horse at the beach running around.

1997
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Speaker 3: He even has like fan art on his Instagram about

1998
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Speaker 3: the horse. Pretty cool stuff, but not much fighting.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's unfortunate to hear. But if he's happy, that's

2000
01:34:09,439 --> 01:34:11,200
Speaker 2: really all I care about. I guess we'll have to see.

2001
01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:13,599
Speaker 2: It's a good, good, good good thing to ask Dana about.

2002
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Speaker 2: All Right, Danny, that is the show for today. Sorry

2003
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Speaker 2: for all the tech difficulties out there, folks. We will

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Speaker 2: work on it. And I also say this, next time

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Speaker 2: we get down to Miami, we got to bring you

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Speaker 2: in studio. We should be a little bit cleaner with that. Danny.

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Speaker 2: Good work over the weekend, and thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: And yes, that is a show. More to come on

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Speaker 2: extra credit. Be on the lookout for it. Plus some

2015
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Speaker 2: other stuff we got coming. We got a big surprise

2016
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Speaker 2: coming for you guys, very very soon. I am traveling

2017
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Speaker 2: to another city tomorrow for something kind of fun. So

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Speaker 2: we'll see how that goes. No, no, no, no details

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Speaker 2: beyond that, but being on the lookout for it. Okay, Danny,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much, Thanks to Malka, thanks to Showtime,

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Speaker 2: Thank you to of course CBS Sports. Until next time,

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Speaker 2: may all of your gains be loyal.