00:00:08 Speaker 1: And I invited you here thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest in my home, you gotta come to me empty. 00:00:23 Speaker 2: And I said, no guests, your own presences, presents, and I already had too much stuff, So how do you dare. 00:00:36 Speaker 1: To surbey me? 00:00:48 Speaker 3: Welcome to? I said, no gifts. I'm Bridgard Wineger. We are in the backyard. It's and it's a nice cold one hundred and seventeen degrees. Already sweating. I'm not done sweating for the day. I've been in the car too much, driving all over town, barely had a lunch here. We are just trying to get your pity and I need it today, So pity me and let's get into the podcast. I think our guest is so wonderful. It's Lane more Lane. Welcome to. I said, no gifts, thank you for having me glad here. And you brought your dog. 00:01:24 Speaker 4: Yes, I did this as my dog lights well, you can't see it at all. Unfortunate for you. 00:01:29 Speaker 3: She's adorable. How old is she? 00:01:31 Speaker 4: She's about seven eight years old. She's a rescue so you have no idea and you just guess their birthday. 00:01:35 Speaker 3: Isn't that a strange thing about a rescue animal. But it's kind of you kind of get to do your own thing. Yeah, you can do whatever you want. 00:01:42 Speaker 4: I've already changed her birthday once just because I didn't think it suited her. 00:01:46 Speaker 3: What was her original birthday? 00:01:49 Speaker 4: So I gave her Valentine's Day originally, and then I was like, yeah, I'm going to do Valentine's Day, but I'm almost always touring that day and it's like a really busy day, and I was like, I was like, I don't think this is a very good brisk day for you. Also you get overshadowed by Valentine's Day. 00:02:02 Speaker 3: Of course, that was a real easy mistake you made. 00:02:05 Speaker 4: I was a real to say, and I made it. I didn't even give birth to her that day. I gave birth to her another day. 00:02:11 Speaker 3: When's her new birthday? See, this is the worst. 00:02:17 Speaker 4: This is the only flaw I have in a relationship, I swear to god. I was like, she seems like a Taurus. I'm going to give her a birthday sometime in April or May. And then I got really busy, so now and then and then as the days go by on the calendar, I'm like, oh my god, it's Light's birthday this month or next month. I really and this was only a couple months ago. So it's not like this has been going. 00:02:38 Speaker 3: On for years, right, But it is very neglect. 00:02:41 Speaker 4: The neglect is very new. But to be fair, you know, she's here with me, so she travels with me all the time. 00:02:46 Speaker 3: She just has no birthday, TPA. Do you ever have you ever like had a birthday for her, bought birthday gifts for her. 00:02:55 Speaker 4: No, I've honored her birth and my love for her consistently on social media and in my day to day interactions with her. I tell her twelve thousand times a day how much I love her, that she's my favorite person in the world. I dedicated my book to her. She's in my so I've done other things. 00:03:12 Speaker 3: So she's controlling you. She's kind of a. 00:03:16 Speaker 4: If she hits, that's fine with her. One person control me, and it's my dog. 00:03:21 Speaker 3: I don't care. She's very, very cute. You're here from New York. Yeah? Did she? I assume she came on the plane with you. She did. Yeah. 00:03:29 Speaker 4: She travels just unbelievably well, she says. On my lap, she curls up in a little donut shape. She's like eight pounds, so she's very small. If people can't tell what that would look like, but literally looks like a little donut and she just sleeps. I bring her little blankie when we travel and she I only recently started doing that, and she loves it. And then I put it on the hotel bed and we get there and she's like, oh my god, I'm home, and I'm. 00:03:52 Speaker 3: Like, wow, sense could really trick a dog. That's all she needs. She thinks she's always home. 00:03:58 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think on some level she does. I think on another level, she's very anxious and she knows she's not home. But that blanket really is getting me along with It's. 00:04:06 Speaker 3: Very very sweet. I love you. I'm talking to her, I'm looking at her, I'm telling her I love her. She's very sweet. She looks kind of like a little old lady in a good way kind of. Yes. 00:04:18 Speaker 4: I also recently, uh someone street he asked me by calling her the Taco Bell dog and it was just Taco Bell Dog got a hot mom, And I was like, I'll keep it. Yes, that's the only good street harassment I've ever heard. Like, I don't even think it was directed to me. I don't think it was about me. I think the street arressment was meant for my dog. 00:04:41 Speaker 3: That's incredible. I wonder how many Taco Bell dogs there actually were, because you know, you have multiple dogs on a shoot, maybe hundreds of dogs they were. 00:04:51 Speaker 4: Using, allegedly, because I think I did look this up at one point one of those like it's three am. I'm somehow I landed here on Wikipedia looking at what happened to the Taco Bell dog, like it's real. 00:05:06 Speaker 3: I have some bad news for you. 00:05:08 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's dead. Yeah I did. I did realize that that night. It was sad, but it had like the years it was alive. It never because they said that it was just like one dog. But is that a lie? 00:05:20 Speaker 3: Are lying to me? There's no way it was just one dog. 00:05:22 Speaker 4: There's no way it was ready. 00:05:24 Speaker 3: It showed up for work every day. It never had an off day. It's animal abuse. Are they allowed to work that long? I don't think so. I don't know they shouldn't be. 00:05:32 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, you're right, you know what, You're right in theory. I'm always like lights needs to be in movies, she'd be so good. But I swear to God, if I got on a set and she looked at least a little tired. I would grab her right out. I'd be like, no, she's too sleepy. 00:05:44 Speaker 3: She's a precious and commodity. Yeah, I think that. I want to say they're probably eighteen Taco bell dogs. That's my guess. On at least, do you have any idea? Is there any well, I mean. 00:05:55 Speaker 5: So far, the only what I'm seeing is a gidget right Italy. 00:05:58 Speaker 4: It was just that's the story of their sticking with is that it was one dog and. 00:06:01 Speaker 3: Who did Gidget play? Did the dog have a name? She was the dog's name Gidget? 00:06:05 Speaker 4: Or the dog's name was great, the dog's name was Gidget. 00:06:10 Speaker 3: But on the commercials did they come up with a new name. 00:06:13 Speaker 4: I don't think that he had a name and she had a name. 00:06:15 Speaker 3: And I didn't realize that it was a girl dog the whole time. 00:06:19 Speaker 4: I didn't either had a man voice and it was a lady. 00:06:24 Speaker 3: I think it wasn't that. 00:06:25 Speaker 4: It wasn't it like a low almost a yeah, yes, I remember, I mean, very important part of my childhood. 00:06:32 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's a really weird. 00:06:33 Speaker 4: It was wild to hear a stranger shout that, because it is the most dated reference I think I've ever. 00:06:40 Speaker 3: I mean, it's so dated that I think it's kind of come around to the foot that we can talk about it again. 00:06:44 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:06:44 Speaker 4: It was almost like refreshing, like, oh yeah, I do remember that man on the street. 00:06:50 Speaker 3: Should have could have just said nothing. 00:06:52 Speaker 1: What have you? 00:06:53 Speaker 3: What have you been doing in Los Angeles while you're here? 00:06:56 Speaker 4: I'm here doing uh I'm doing a book festival tomorrow. And other than that, I have been mostly I finally slept okay, very good h for the first time in a couple days. 00:07:10 Speaker 3: Last night. 00:07:11 Speaker 4: We're we're getting me at my probably best My friend this morning was like the world has never been ready for a fully rested lane more And I was like, well, they're getting them today, only except for like almost twelve hours. 00:07:24 Speaker 3: It was one of those play sounds incredible. 00:07:26 Speaker 4: It's one of those like you haven't slept in a couple days, in your body's like finally ready. 00:07:29 Speaker 3: Oh that feeling of waking up after twelve hours. 00:07:33 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, you look at the clock and it's I mean, I'm all over the place, but like you look at the clock and you're like, I did a good job. 00:07:38 Speaker 3: I woke up last night in a pool of sweat again, pity me, No, it was so hot. 00:07:44 Speaker 4: I the temperature has actually been good in my hotel. The hotel, but I was at before those who was a man. I swear to god, I could hear him fart and that is not a e feminism. I like heard him fart in the next room, and I was like, I hate this so much. And there was like a party outside, like it was the worst hotel until like five am. And then on top of that, there's also like a train that goes by, so every tours you're here, Oh, I can't live like that's. 00:08:09 Speaker 3: Oh that's some poor hotel placement who is so awful. 00:08:12 Speaker 4: And then when I like call to be like do you know that, it's like this, like just you're almost like stunned that they're able to run this, and that the friend does is they're like, yeah, some of those things we just can't control. And I was like, okay, well, what do you at least like warn people like, hey, do you love noise, like constant all night noise? Because this is the hotel for you only are even just in sleeping. You should absolutely not be paying human dollars for this. 00:08:39 Speaker 3: Is this the hotel where the woman went missing in the water tower. Wait is that real? That's a real thing. There's a whole documentary about it. She vanished and was found in the watertowel. 00:08:49 Speaker 4: I do remember this, and I think so. They also don't tell you that. It's like I. 00:08:55 Speaker 3: Don't think this is a real hotel. I really don't. 00:08:59 Speaker 4: I think it has like long term guests who are just unbelievably loud. I also think it's just like a party space that you can sleep at. I don't know, but I was very grateful that in the middle of a rave but literally I was like, I would have been better off at a youth hostel. I should have just gone full, Like at least inform me that's it, Like people would love that, Like I'm gonna do cocaine for thirty seven hours already. 00:09:23 Speaker 3: Yeah, welcome me. Uh are you doing anything enjoyable about your hair other than sleeping on? Stop? 00:09:30 Speaker 4: I've eaten? 00:09:31 Speaker 3: What have you eaten? I love talking about food eating? 00:09:34 Speaker 4: Yeah, I have eaten. I ate a really good salad. I ate a really good dip. 00:09:41 Speaker 3: I love a dip. Dip. What sort of dip were you have? 00:09:44 Speaker 4: It was a because it's la it was a macadamia nut cheese dip. But it also had that Uh, I feel like it's it's on the fence, whether it's Brucetta or brusquetta. 00:09:55 Speaker 3: Oh, everybody's got a different take. You gotta kind of just switch back and forth. So nobody ever catch and that's usually what I do. 00:10:02 Speaker 4: But it had whatever your choice is of that, I'm gonna go with PRIs Shatta for right now. Even though I think Briskeuett it sounds a little bit more fun. 00:10:09 Speaker 3: It does sound a little more I mean, immediately you send it Italian. 00:10:11 Speaker 4: Right, don't I sound it? And I actually am so there I go. 00:10:14 Speaker 3: This is humiliating for you and your family. Yeah that's fine. I'm like, I'm like me, I'm them, don't care. But yeah, so it. 00:10:24 Speaker 4: Had that and then some olives and it was just very nice and the tomatoes were very sweet. Where was I Love? It's called all Lack. It's like downtown la. 00:10:35 Speaker 3: Oh I've never heard of this nice all Lack. 00:10:38 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a U L A C. And it's like a Vietnamese vegan food. 00:10:43 Speaker 1: Oh. 00:10:43 Speaker 3: Interesting, And what you were just describing as Italian food this place, I don't know what happened. 00:10:47 Speaker 4: It was all over the place. I was looking at the menu and I was like, why do you have ravioli? I thought this was Viennamese food, but okay. 00:10:52 Speaker 3: And you're basically talking about nacho cheese. You know what's happening in that kitchen? 00:10:57 Speaker 1: I asked. 00:10:58 Speaker 4: When I came there, I was like, oh, I love Vnemy's food, Like, can you walk me through this menu? And the words I wasn't saying were because what is this like? 00:11:06 Speaker 1: Men? 00:11:06 Speaker 2: You? 00:11:07 Speaker 3: Because it was there were a lot. 00:11:07 Speaker 4: Of enemies things, and then there would be this, and then they had like a ravioli And I was like. 00:11:13 Speaker 3: Where am I? Where am I? It's fine, but where am I? But it was all, yeah, are you do you have any plans to eat anywhere else while you're here? That's when I travel, That's all I do. I mean, that's the only thing I care about doing is finding something to eat. That's all. 00:11:27 Speaker 4: That's that's really all I care about as well. Sometimes I will sometimes I'll go thrifting. I haven't a good idea. Yes, I love going thrifting, exploring different places. 00:11:38 Speaker 3: Getting a little drink. 00:11:39 Speaker 4: I love getting a little drink somewhere, you know, like it was somewhere and you get your eight dollars coffee and some part of you dies inside when you pay for it, and then you know you're also tipping. 00:11:48 Speaker 3: So it's now a ten dollars coffee. I love that coffee prices have jumped a dollar in the last probably ten minutes. 00:11:56 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, And you know we're gonna keep We're gonna. 00:11:59 Speaker 3: Keep a dollar. Why can't we just up it by a quarter one time? I'm fine with a quarter up? 00:12:05 Speaker 4: You know, just keeps going, Like, are we to see like a fifteen dollar coffee in our life? 00:12:08 Speaker 3: Like I can't, Oh, I can't do. I can't well prepare I start preparing now. No, I'm guessing twenty thirty three, you're gonna have a fifteen dollars coffee and you'll be like, oh, there's another fifteen dollars. Who cares? Yeah? 00:12:20 Speaker 4: Well, and at that point, you know, by twenty thirty three, surely I've been making a lot more money. 00:12:26 Speaker 3: Surely, or you might just have ten years it might be your last fifteen dollars. Yeah, So I'm going to treat myself. 00:12:31 Speaker 4: I really don't know, Yeah, exactly, I'm going out this way and then I go and buy an upsetting purchase. 00:12:37 Speaker 3: That's right after the coffee. 00:12:40 Speaker 4: The coffee is the energy I needed to go buy the end of life purchase. 00:12:45 Speaker 3: Oh well, look, I need to talk to you. You've been doing various things in LA and some of them sound good, some of them sound bad. I want to talk to you about one of them that's terrible. I was really excited to have you here on the podcast day on I said no gifts, was looking forward to it. I assumed you got all the emails at the top of the podcast I described I've not. I've been having a rough day, uh, sweating, driving, panicking, So it kind of it didn't feel great when you. So I look down the walk here in the backyard, and you have got a gift for me. I mean, I'm just going to call a spade a spade. That's a gift. Oh yeah, absolutely, it's in a bag, in a white bag that says and they lived happily ever after. I don't know what your your plan is. 00:13:35 Speaker 4: I don't know why that wouldn't cheer you up if you saw that down the driveway, wouldn't you be like, oh my god, everything's gonna be okay. 00:13:41 Speaker 3: It's my night in Shining Armor. Yeah. 00:13:44 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's it's pink, there's there's goal. You know, it's like maybe from a wedding, maybe a divorce, We don't know. 00:13:52 Speaker 3: That's an interesting thing to say after divorce and they lived happily ever after. Has anybody ever done that? No? 00:13:57 Speaker 4: But I think well probably the days these people and everybody else does something. Everyone's doing it. But what I think is maybe, like because if you think about it, these are the remnants from all weddings, right, they all have like the and they lived happily ere after. But surely at least fifty percent of those people got divorced. And now all these people have their gift bags. That's say something that did not turn out true and. 00:14:20 Speaker 3: What you're basically describing as a horder if they're still holding onto their gift bags. So we're surrounded by garbage and divorced. 00:14:26 Speaker 4: You don't hold onto your memories, every memory of every gift bag, of every wedding you've ever gone to. Wow, maybe this is why you're troubled. 00:14:35 Speaker 3: I'm deeply troubled. Well, do you want me to open it here on the podcast? I would really love that. Yeah, Okay, let's see here dipping, dipping, dipping, Okay, and I'm pulling out what is this? It looks my get my initial guests, and I could be wrong. Is stick on ear rings? 00:15:15 Speaker 4: No, but you're clothes, which is it's a temporary tattoo. 00:15:19 Speaker 3: And their bands so there's three of them. 00:15:23 Speaker 4: So you could put it as an arm band if you have like a really small arm, or you could piece them all together and make one giant armband. They could go all the way around your arm like you're a hunk. 00:15:33 Speaker 3: In nineteen ninety nine, where did these come from? 00:15:38 Speaker 1: You know? 00:15:39 Speaker 4: When I was picking out the gift, I realized this story where I got it is going to sound unbelievable, but it is true. The first time I did mushrooms was with people it barely knew in Long Island and they had some temporary tattoos they let me have and I took so many. I was so excited about temporary tattoos. I them and I was like, you know what, I know. I know he said no gifts, but temporary tattoos are the gift that keeps on giving for at least three to five days. 00:16:10 Speaker 3: That's about how long these last. This looks like a good quality, temporary tattoo good quality, and also as a show of solidarity. 00:16:18 Speaker 4: Well, okay, so it depends where you put them. Because I put some of these temporary tattoos on last night and one of them has already started to go away. 00:16:26 Speaker 3: Oh, no, one is definitely falling off. The other's an elephant or something. 00:16:29 Speaker 4: Yes, and that really does tell you the quality. There's an elephant or something. But to be fair, it took a long bath last night, like a really long bath, after I put the tattoos on. 00:16:40 Speaker 3: And before you slept for twelve hours. Yes, that helps you. But this one, the one on my left arm, is Oh, that one's looks like a real tattoo. 00:16:46 Speaker 4: It looks like a real timetoo. It could be you don't know. And then I also have a well, I mean you do because I just told you. And then I also one of the temporary tattoos because I really wanted this to be a bonding experience on my upper arm. You can't see it, but you'll have to imagine it. It is some sort of long necklace that I think you're suppos to put on your neck. 00:17:05 Speaker 3: It's some sort of like. 00:17:06 Speaker 4: Long necklace that has what looks like the Titanic's Jewel of. 00:17:09 Speaker 3: The Ocean and the beautiful. 00:17:10 Speaker 4: But I thought that'd be a cool arm tattoo for just me to know I have secretly because I'm wearying one sleep. 00:17:17 Speaker 3: That makes more sense to me than like putting on a fake necklace tattoo that just always makes me WinCE because I think, oh, that area a needle there that seems like pure hell to me. 00:17:28 Speaker 4: But the good news is with these, you just put a washcloth on it for thirty seconds. 00:17:35 Speaker 3: Do you have any real tattoos? No, I don't. Actually have you ever considered it? 00:17:39 Speaker 4: Once when I was a teenager, and I paused, I said, I don't think we should make this decision, which is very very adult of me, but I just kind of had a feeling that one day I would regret it, and not in a like you know, your grandma telling you like you're gonna regreet that, but just I know the way my brain is, and if I had something on my body like I think eventually be like I don't feel the same way anymore. I'm not the same person anymore. Like I just I overthought it and it didn't happen. 00:18:07 Speaker 3: Did you have a did you have a tattoo in mind. 00:18:10 Speaker 4: Yeah, I like wanted something with like tree branches. I don't I would have changed my mind for sure the place. 00:18:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, it would have been like a full back tattoo, like like it was a big tattoo. Well, I mean yes, I think. 00:18:24 Speaker 4: I saw like one Tumblr photo and I was like, that's me. But it probably would have been like a two thousand dollars tattoo. It would have been so painful. It would have probably taken like seventeen days to don't. 00:18:34 Speaker 3: I don't know the math, but I'm really glad I didn't do it. Tumblr photos have led to so many bad decisions. 00:18:40 Speaker 4: It seems. And also also I don't even think that it was the tumbler person's tattoo. 00:18:45 Speaker 3: I think it was like photoshop. 00:18:47 Speaker 4: But I was like, oh wow, their tattoo is so cool, and looking back, I'm like, there's no way that was a real tattoo or that anyone has ever had that. 00:18:53 Speaker 3: Oh interesting, Well, you could have been the first, and you dropped the ball in a huge way. Thank god. I that vulcan remain on the But I would have hated it. 00:19:01 Speaker 4: I think that's why, like I went to piercing, not that I'm like a piercing's nut. 00:19:06 Speaker 3: But it's like a very quick pain, a quick pain that can kind of vanish in an instant. Yeah, it's not you know, you take out the piercing and it's almost gone. That's it. 00:19:16 Speaker 4: I do not kind of remember that pain, but I feel like tattoo pain. You really you have to like like that kind of pain. 00:19:21 Speaker 3: I really did not. I would like somebody to explain to me what sort of pain it actually is. Is it a burning? Is it a sharp dull? You don't have tattoos either. I have no tattoos. Do you have tattoos on a Lisha's got to I forget? You have tattoos I got? I have thirteen tattoos. Most of them are small. 00:19:39 Speaker 5: The best way I can describe it is imagine like a mechanical pencil, just like scratching up and down your arm, over and over and over again. 00:19:46 Speaker 3: That sounds wonderful. It's like it's it's the most. I always describe it as like the most. 00:19:52 Speaker 4: Over and over again, though you have to think about the over and over, like an hour. 00:19:56 Speaker 5: It's the most uncomfortable I've felt without crying, Like you feel like it's that kind of like wincing pain. 00:20:03 Speaker 3: But it's not enough to cry. It's not enough to like like get it off of me. But yeah, okay, well maybe I'll get a tiny one and it'll just be a bit of scratching on my arm. I don't know. 00:20:13 Speaker 4: Are you doing that just so you can feel what that pain feels like? 00:20:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just curious. I don't know what else would give me. I mean, other than a mechanical Maybe I hire someone to just rub a mechanical pencil all over me. That's probably more expensive. 00:20:25 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it depends that you hire. I feel like that if you get someone who's like into that and they're like, maybe maybe you can get them to pay you to do it, you got to think those through. 00:20:35 Speaker 3: And then you have to throw the cost of the mechanical pencil on top of that. God knows how much of that costs. 00:20:39 Speaker 4: Maybe they'd cover it. I have your new agent for this specific thing. 00:20:45 Speaker 3: We're starting a website today. 00:20:47 Speaker 4: Yeah, please apply if that's you. We're looking for someone, and that's all, and we're looking for someone. 00:20:55 Speaker 3: For truly someone. 00:20:57 Speaker 2: No. 00:20:58 Speaker 3: I will occasionally consider a tattoo, but I don't know what's going on. I don't know that I'm qualified as a person. I don't know that I'm cool enough. I don't know that I'm I feel like I would, I'd feel like a fraud. 00:21:10 Speaker 4: You could do it, though, I mean it could be there's a couple of ways I could see you doing a tattoo. You could do like a plant, and then that could be like a dating starter thing where you're just like, look, how sensitive I am? I have a freaking plant. I'm in a relationship at well or maybe maybe a break up. 00:21:27 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe relationship. It probably would to be honest, there you go. But oh, nice, got a plant. You're really on the plant tattoo trainer, aren't you? Trees? Plants, plants, Oh oh, and that too. 00:21:42 Speaker 4: But I was thinking for I was thinking for you, but you're surrounded by so many beautiful plants. 00:21:46 Speaker 3: I just thought, little plant. I don't know. Maybe that's like when I turned fifty, but then turning fifty, oh, that seems like a weird choice at fifty. 00:21:55 Speaker 4: It really is like, and then I got some bogonias on my right wrist to celebrate it. 00:22:01 Speaker 3: It's very Yeah, I don't know who. I don't know who that is. Yeah, I don't know who that is. Do you feel like you have a high pain tolerance. It's a complicated answer. I'm excited to you. I do. 00:22:12 Speaker 4: I wish I didn't, and I also don't. But like, because I have a high pain tolerance, I actually don't want to be in pain ever, right, I have no interest for it? No, no, no, no, Because it's like I know, I know, I have a really high tolerance at the point where like I won't even notice, like if I like scrap my arm or something like, I won't even notice that I did. And then days later I'm like, was I bleeding? 00:22:34 Speaker 3: Like it's that's not good. It's like you have nerve problems. 00:22:38 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just that, it's just that it's that I don't know, it's like a high tolerance for pain, and I think high tolerance for ignoring your own needs. 00:22:47 Speaker 3: To sure I understand that feeling in a very acute way. I feel like I, well, I've been told redheads have are extremely sensitive to pain, and so or is that just it's kind of true? But I don't know. I don't know. I've never really felt that sensitive to pain. But my last dentist appointment and I have moved on from this dentist thanks to someone named Ryan who reached out and recommended a new dentist. They shot up. They thought, oh, he has low pain tolerance. Put so much novacated in my mouth that my mouth was numb for seven hours. Oh no, horrifying. 00:23:24 Speaker 4: He's just trooling, trooling, drooling. 00:23:28 Speaker 3: Just awful experience. You want that to be an hour and a half, two hours max. Yeah, when it gets to like hour four, you begin to work. I mean there's a real panic that sets it. 00:23:37 Speaker 4: Eat anything. You're just chewing on your own tongue. 00:23:42 Speaker 3: To your cheeks. 00:23:43 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:23:44 Speaker 3: No, not a good experience. Who did this well, not Ryan? You know, Ryan reached out recommended the new dentists. I haven't been to the new dentist yet, but I've got high hopes, high hopes. It better be good because that that may be the last dentist I ever have. 00:24:00 Speaker 4: Ye, I need a new I need a new dentist in a big way. If there's anyone with recommendations in New York City. 00:24:05 Speaker 3: Reach out to lay. So hard to find a dentist, it's. 00:24:07 Speaker 4: So well, it's hard to find a dentist. Sorry, to find a good you can swing anything. 00:24:13 Speaker 3: There may be one in your home. Now. Yeah, they're dentists everywhere. 00:24:16 Speaker 4: They're everywhere, they are everywhere, but a good one. 00:24:21 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I've been through so many, so many dentists, but I think this I've got. I'm I'm wishing myself the. 00:24:28 Speaker 4: Best better with dentists. No, what the hell, I'm I'm really upset about it. I feel like the longer I'm alive, I think when I was a kid, I just thought like, doctors are like not that Innocetillily had like the best best healthcare then either, but you don't need it as much because you're a child and you're like whatever, but you're just like doctors and dentists are good at what they do. And then the second that you get insurance or not insurance or whatever it is, and you're just like, oh, most doctors and dentists are really bad, like really bad, and they'll and also you don't know like even if I had bad ones then too, I didn't know it. You just kind of assume like, oh, you like took all my symptoms and like told me it was in my head and told me to get fucked and then charged me sixteen thousand dollars. And I was like, well, I guess that's just the way life is. And then ten years after that you're like, it shouldn't be. 00:25:17 Speaker 3: No, no, no, yeah, that is a weird thing to discover as an adult that most professionals, I mean a lot of professionals simply aren't good at their job. Just like everyone else. We're all probably bad at our jobs. It's rare that somebody's, oh, that's very cute what the dog's doing resting our head on your elbow. No, most people are bad at their jobs or kind of don't care. 00:25:38 Speaker 4: But that is. 00:25:39 Speaker 3: Wild to me. 00:25:39 Speaker 4: I really only realized that once I got my first, like steady writing job, where I was like, oh, a lot of people here are not good at what they do. And the reason that I say that is because I for so many years I had, like had not very good jobs or I couldn't get like the jobs that I wanted or whatever it was, and I struggled for so long, and then I finally was like, oh, my god, this is a really good writing job, and like it pays pretty well in respect. It absolutely didn't, but I thought it did because I had been so beaten down, right, and uh, but then I looked around and I just always assumed that people who had these jobs I wanted so much were like better than me, they were they knew more than me, they were like all these things. And then I just looked around and I was like, I'm more on top of it than these are the people who've had jobs steadily since high school, and I've struggled. This isn't about me at all. 00:26:27 Speaker 3: No, I mean, the bar for entry is so unbelievably hind and then you get over it and you're like, how did you what did you hear? Well, it's because they were air dropped by their parents or something, literally straight up a lot of them. And then you're just like, oh, okay, yes, I feel worse now. Yeah, it's a very very hard thing to get into it then. But I guess that is kind of true for a lot of professional jobs. 00:26:49 Speaker 4: I feel like it shouldn't legally be allowed to fine you want to like screw around at your office jobbling or whatever, but I feel it shouldn't be allowed in the medical profession. 00:26:56 Speaker 3: Right when you're in charge of somebody's safety. 00:26:58 Speaker 4: Yes, and like, well, being like that, you feel very when I the last dentist I saw was a really traumatic experiences I feel like almost every dental experiences. But I'm I'm also not being like that's not hyperbolic. 00:27:12 Speaker 3: It was really bad. 00:27:13 Speaker 1: It was right. 00:27:13 Speaker 4: It took me two hours to get to it because it was the only when my insurants like it took that didn't have like nineteen thousand zero star reviews that were like this one took all my teeth and I just needed a cleaning, Like did you see that? 00:27:27 Speaker 3: I like, what the why is my insurance did this? Why is this recommendation? And then you look and. 00:27:34 Speaker 4: There's three other ones that were like he took my teeth too, And you're like, what, how are you still? 00:27:40 Speaker 3: Yeah, when somebody goes out of their way to yell review their dentists, you know there's a problem. Is no one ill previews their dentist. It's so upsetting. 00:27:48 Speaker 4: But when you just see all of the I've had that happen at several doctors where they're like, yeah, he did that to me too, he did that to me too, And I'm like, how could you like possibly. 00:27:55 Speaker 3: Get away with this? I just don't. Also, what's so weird? 00:27:58 Speaker 4: There's like so much school that's involved, Like it's like the longest. 00:28:03 Speaker 3: Con right we're all told like, oh, the smartest kids go to medical and dental school, and then they have such a hard time because they have to be good. And then suddenly you're in the chair and they're drilling. 00:28:17 Speaker 1: It. 00:28:17 Speaker 4: I just don't And sometimes there's like a sadistic element when you're like, oh god, like the rumors are true. But then you know, every now and again you get like a nice, gentle dentist and you see them. They always look so beaten down by the reputations of all of their peers, or they're just like, see, I think I did good. Right, never mind, you're gonna hate dentists no matter what I do. Have a great day. 00:28:40 Speaker 3: And you're like, oh my god, maybe the secret is to seeing a children's dentist. You never hear bad. Well it's. 00:28:48 Speaker 4: But you're never hopefully you're never getting anything that's that like crazy. As a kid, you're just going in for like a light cleaning and they but they also are nice. I wish they were nicer to you as an adult. I wish like they were like, this is gonna feel weird. 00:29:03 Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't around with me. Make it a fun time. Although I could see that getting really creepy. Yeah, of course, and. 00:29:09 Speaker 4: The adults on me like that's gonna feel kooky. 00:29:12 Speaker 3: I'm like, enough, be a corona. Yeah, that's maybe that's not what I want. I don't know what I want from a dentist. Sultimately, I just. 00:29:22 Speaker 4: Trying to imagine my dream none dentures, I guess. Literally the other day when I went in for the it was so bad at the dentist that I literally like started crying and like told the dentists, I was like, what if you just pull them all out? What if? I was at my breaking point, you know, when you're just like when you've had multiple dentists, You're like, you know what. 00:29:39 Speaker 3: What if you just remove them all? I don't even care anymore. And she looked at me, She's like why, And I was like, I'm so tired. Take them? No, I honestly don't the scientific community has that doesn't feel like that big of a deal to create some sort of little tooth that we can all get, we all get them removed, and then you put in a dishwasher safe tooth or something that you know you put in and they're just good forever. 00:30:00 Speaker 4: I don't think this is like I don't think the teeth thing is working. It's all we don't have good dentists for it. There's always something your insurance never covers it. It's always like, we'll cover the rest of your body, but like your teeth and eyes, like what are you a king? It's like, yeah, that's part of my No, it's not. That's your your mental health. 00:30:19 Speaker 3: We don't cover that either. 00:30:20 Speaker 4: Everything going on your skull, we're afraid. 00:30:23 Speaker 3: No, thank you. Yeah, I mean we're halfway there with veneers. Just fill them out or something dentures like, there's got to be I feel like again, twenty thirty three, that's the year that we get permanent teeth replacements that don't get holes in them. You know, don't stink, don't rock, you. 00:30:40 Speaker 4: Don't have to floss them. Maybe you drop them in a solution every night. I could drop them in a solution. 00:30:45 Speaker 3: Whatever, whatever I need to be dropped into a solution. 00:30:47 Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you right now. I'm not gonna fall daily. 00:30:49 Speaker 3: I just know this about me now. 00:30:52 Speaker 4: Five years ago, what is that? 00:30:53 Speaker 3: Something different? 00:30:53 Speaker 4: I would have been like I will one day, I'm sure, But now one day has come. 00:30:57 Speaker 3: I'm no longer pretending i've recently. I think I've about every two days, which feels like a pretty decent amount of flossing. I'm trying to get to the every day. It's hard when I remember. 00:31:09 Speaker 4: But the but the problem maybe I never get morning breath. 00:31:13 Speaker 3: I don't really get back breath. Well, if I did, let's ask some other. 00:31:17 Speaker 4: No, that's fine, that's fine. I only this is not coming from me. This is this has been said to me by partners. It's not that like, you know, I'm not I'm not a robot. But it's been said to me my partners. But I feel like if I did, I would be encouraged to floss more. 00:31:31 Speaker 3: I almost wish I did. Wow. Fascinating. So you're just waiting for that one partner that's repulsed by your mouth. 00:31:38 Speaker 4: I'll floss for you, babe. Ah, it's all really disgusting. Guess what, guess he's gonna start flossing for you. Not for my own health, No, no, no, I would never do that for my own health. 00:31:50 Speaker 3: Who has the energy. But I'm in it for the long term. Now, Yeah, I'm flossing. 00:31:55 Speaker 4: I'll change for you in a way that grossly benefits me. 00:32:00 Speaker 3: Do you know what I've been doing recently. This is a complete pivot, but I want to recommend this to everyone. I've gotten one of these. I don't want to name the theater chain, but they have these movie passes. It's like twenty five dollars a month or whatever. They ripped me off for quite a few months because I forgot to see movies or was too lazy to see movies. Recently have started seeing movies again. But the real secret is if a movie's three hours long. Have I talked about this on this podcast, Honaly? Well, I'm this is now a hearty endorsement. I'm going to if it's three hours long, I go and see an hour and a half, then leave. I tell myself, I'm just going for an hour and a half. We'll see what the movie's all about and then leave. 00:32:34 Speaker 4: Do you feel like you're getting your money's worth. 00:32:36 Speaker 3: More than my money's worth? I feel like I'm getting double my money's worth. But wouldn't it be do you? 00:32:42 Speaker 4: Have you seen it already? 00:32:44 Speaker 2: No? 00:32:44 Speaker 3: I haven't seen any of these, and I why wouldn't you stay? Because my life is at stake, I've got other things to do with my time. But then, why would you even waste the hour and a half because I want to get a little taste. I want to see what the movie's all about. I mean, I've seen half of Avatar, a half of John Wick four, and now half of bo Is Afraid. I might go back to BoA's Afraid because I didn't get to see Parker Posey, I didn't get to see Richard Kind, I didn't get to see Patty Lapone. So I'd like to see them all. 00:33:10 Speaker 4: Yeah, they don't come in until after an hour and a half. 00:33:13 Speaker 3: Yeah, I as long as three hours. Oh god, it's a plague. 00:33:17 Speaker 4: That's who's sitting in there that long. 00:33:20 Speaker 3: Not me. I'm getting up and when it's. 00:33:21 Speaker 4: Two hours, I'm like I start two hours. I'm like even approaching two hours, I'm like, this is getting long. Like my body feels like I'm like, as they're getting really antsy. Unless you know what helps, though, Do you go to one of those theaters where the seats go back, Oh can like if you want to bring a blanket. 00:33:42 Speaker 3: And fall asleep, No, but just get cozy. I'm falling asleep. There's no there's no better feeling in the world than falling asleep during a movie. 00:33:51 Speaker 4: I guess that's true, but I'm worried that I would have that horrible feeling where you wake up snoring. 00:33:57 Speaker 3: That's one of the world's worst feelings. I think, do you snore? No, But sometimes it's rare. It's rare. 00:34:04 Speaker 4: But sometimes if I pass out somewhere, sometimes you wake up and you if your mouth is open in that certain way, and you do. 00:34:11 Speaker 3: That like oh oh, and then you're. 00:34:13 Speaker 4: Like and I'll wake up immediately, and I'm like, I'm so sorry. And usually as soon as it happens, I wake up, so that's good. But I'm just afraid, like that's like a public humiliation. 00:34:23 Speaker 3: I can't. That just does seem a little frightening to me. And I mean it's rude too. You're like, sorry, I really was liking the film. Maybe, I mean, I should be honest right now, I fell asleep six minutes into bow Is Afraid. Just for a minute. 00:34:37 Speaker 4: What is bo Is Afraid? 00:34:38 Speaker 3: It's Joaquin Phoenix. It's a uh. I don't even know how to describe the movie. It's kind of a horror comedy movie about a man where everything's going wrong in his life, and it's absurd and surreal and graphic and uh. 00:34:53 Speaker 4: It's sort you write this movie about you, it should have been about it feels like a humble brag. You're like, it's a it's a pretty incredible film. I've really liked it personally for myself. I see it a couple of times up to you. 00:35:05 Speaker 3: You like, look up IMDb and it's like literally your film. They're like, what now, huh No, did you see Midsummer Yes, same director. Oh, okay, interesting, I imagine kind of that level. 00:35:16 Speaker 4: I saw that in theaters. 00:35:17 Speaker 3: Okay, that's another long movie. 00:35:19 Speaker 4: I'm glad I saw it in theaters because I know if I saw it at home, I wouldn't have been able to pay attention. 00:35:23 Speaker 3: I would have started checking my phone. 00:35:25 Speaker 4: In the trapped in the theater, yes, But in theaters I was able to fully be really trapped and just watch it, which I really did like, even though I made it sound like I was tortured. 00:35:36 Speaker 3: If I'm watching a movie at home, I'm watching it four minute blocks at a time and then rewinding and barely taking any of it in. Even on the plane. I tried to watch on the plane. 00:35:46 Speaker 4: Here, I tried to watch a movie, and I was like doing really well. I was really proud of myself. I was like, wow, sure I am paying attention. And then I don't know what happened? 00:35:56 Speaker 3: What did you want? I think they brought us. 00:35:57 Speaker 4: They brought us drinks on the plane, and I was like, I was like, I'm eating my little snack. And then I started like I pressed play again, but that I wasn't really watching right, and like twenty minutes went by and I was like, oh shoot, I went back and restarted it, and then I like I didn't do that like five times? 00:36:11 Speaker 3: What movie was this significant? Other? What's this movie? I've never wish movie. It's a horror movie. 00:36:17 Speaker 4: I love horror movies with Jake Lacey and I don't know, I might be mispronouncing her name, but it's about like Mica Monroe. She was in The Guest, which is incredible. If you haven't seen The Guests, I guess is the guess is. 00:36:29 Speaker 3: So I think I've seen the Guest? Is that Dan Stevens? Yes, this sounds familiar and the incredible soundtrack Oh sorry, White Twilli song? Is that the movie? 00:36:40 Speaker 2: Uh? 00:36:40 Speaker 3: Looking for the Magic? Is that the movie? 00:36:42 Speaker 1: I don't know. 00:36:43 Speaker 3: I don't think so. And they're like people in a this is so exciting for the listener. For me to try to describe a movie, I can barely remember it. But it's the people like you start in a house with these people that are playing this great song and they get murdered and then CD starts skipping on a Lisa. 00:36:56 Speaker 4: No one cares no, but I know what you're talking to sounders. 00:36:59 Speaker 3: No, I know what you're talking about. 00:37:02 Speaker 4: But is it the one that I think? It ends that way? There's a movie that ends that way? 00:37:07 Speaker 3: Are you talking about? Don't at least look up Dwight Twilly looking for the magic horror movie. 00:37:11 Speaker 4: Because there's one that ends that way. There's one where it's like what I think it beginning, it begins and ends that way or something where there's a movie and I in. 00:37:18 Speaker 3: The Hollywood Hills were next? 00:37:20 Speaker 4: Is that the one? 00:37:21 Speaker 3: Maybe? But there's these movies tell you nothing about what the movie is. 00:37:24 Speaker 4: There's another one. There's another one that ends with I saw it recently, like takes place in the Hollywood Hills and it's like their nextra neighbors. I've seen your next also, But there's another one I saw recently and it ends with like a skipping record. 00:37:35 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's the same song, So I guess we have to stop doing that in horror movies. 00:37:39 Speaker 4: I didn't know so many people were. I was like, yeah, I know that one kind of in my own way. 00:37:44 Speaker 3: The new thing should be their Spotify play. This just continues and it gets to songs they don't like. 00:37:48 Speaker 4: They don't here if we Go, which is its own horror movie. And then also you're a little bit like insulted. You're like, why would you think I'd want this next? You don't know me at all. 00:37:58 Speaker 3: The algorithm real does not know me. It certainly doesn't know me. Like the guesses are so obvious or bad. I'm right, you really, You're like, you're just kind of looking at the last song I heard and then vaguely shooting at the next song. But it's an algorithm doesn't be the best. Well, this one's not this one. It stinks it. 00:38:18 Speaker 4: They're almost never good. I so many of the Some of it too, is like like I look at my TikTok and stuff, and the algorithm like what it thinks I. 00:38:26 Speaker 3: Want is not at all what I want. 00:38:29 Speaker 4: I'm like, please stop this. And then my friend's TikTok algorithm is exactly what I want, but I don't know how. 00:38:35 Speaker 3: To get it. 00:38:35 Speaker 4: And it's because so he's a dude, but his whole TikTok is very like they don't know who he is because he doesn't really follow anybody. Okay, he like follows like five people, and they don't know if he's like a weird little boy who likes bugs and thoughts, or if he's a lesbian. Like, that's a TikTok. Yes, sane, I'm like, that's a TikTok. 00:38:59 Speaker 3: I want to be on. 00:39:00 Speaker 4: The videos he gets are just like this sweet man in China making his own food in his backyard, and this really cool hawk, and then like these little like pandas, who are you know, having a good time. Here's the world's tiniest mushroom. 00:39:16 Speaker 3: I'm like, I want to. 00:39:17 Speaker 1: Be over that. 00:39:18 Speaker 3: Do I get over there? What are you getting? I don't know. 00:39:21 Speaker 4: It's like I don't I don't even know because I scroll past almost all of. 00:39:27 Speaker 3: Them, So it's punishing you, I think. 00:39:29 Speaker 4: So well. It's also like again maybe who I follow or based on I don't know what it's based on. But I'm like, don't you know, I'm swiping past all of these, but you know what it is. I don't think he cares. I think it's like that attention economy thing where it's like, yeah, but you're still staying even though we're treating you like garbage, And I'm like, oh, I damn. 00:39:48 Speaker 3: Well, it's because you're dissatisfied, You're look, you're hungry, you're looking for a little crumb to eat. That's me. That's I've been on TikTok very few times, but the times I have, and I'm like, I'm just going, going, going, and then it's an hour later, I still haven't seen anything I wanted to watch. 00:40:02 Speaker 4: And I wonder how many of us that is true for the only things I want to watch are I like people who make like little fairy gardens. 00:40:10 Speaker 3: I love that. 00:40:12 Speaker 4: I love any like I don't know, like I love good like witch outfits. 00:40:21 Speaker 3: Doesn't like what else? 00:40:23 Speaker 4: Do I want more of anything with like that esthetic where it's like the wall is blue and there's like gold suns and moons, Like I find that very soothing. I love it, Like, yeah, Showy wore that, so you're just colors. 00:40:37 Speaker 3: You want witchiness? 00:40:39 Speaker 4: I guess so I haven't. Yeah, I guess I just but a specific type I guess, right, kind of, I. 00:40:49 Speaker 3: Guess I really just want to. 00:40:50 Speaker 4: I really just remain on Practical Magic TikTok as much as I can. I've created as much content around that as I can, And anytime I see good practical Magic content, I'm like, yes, this is good, but then the next thing will just be like it's the worst thing I've ever seen. 00:41:04 Speaker 3: So that I've never seen Practical Magic. I need to see the movie. That's a huge, huge blind spot for me. 00:41:13 Speaker 4: I feel like I'm the perfect person to introduce you to it, and I don't feel like that's wrong because people associate me so much of that movie that it's very funny because I've talked about it so much online and I have a point of bragging for Practical Magic, which is that I've had a couple Practical Magic tweets that went really viral, so much so that Nicole Kidman, who was one of the witches in Practical Magic, reposted it on and so I feel like a Practical Magic ambassador. 00:41:42 Speaker 3: That is something incredible. I mean, I've seen the dancing through the kitchen, Oh what a great Yeah, incredible, but I've never I don't know why I haven't gotten into it. 00:41:52 Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing. It does fall apart in the third act. 00:41:55 Speaker 3: Oh interesting, we all know it. 00:41:57 Speaker 4: I'm not really feels like saying something negative about your level. 00:42:01 Speaker 3: But it's not. 00:42:01 Speaker 4: It's loving them despite their flaw, is what it is. 00:42:04 Speaker 3: It falls apart. 00:42:05 Speaker 4: And when it becomes about men, she like falls for a cop, like come on, her husband dies and then call back a cop come on, and he's like kind of. 00:42:13 Speaker 3: Like, have you seen Fred Kabajack? He's like that already. He's like, whoo, so totally underwhelming. What's this aiden Quinn? Never heard of him? There you go. Sorry he's dead. No he's not. He's alive. 00:42:26 Speaker 2: I don't know. 00:42:27 Speaker 3: He might be very nice, but so does. The movie started. They just three friends who happened to be witches. Do they find each other through a witch website. 00:42:33 Speaker 4: It's like it starts with I won't you know, I won't take you to the Literally. As I started talking about it, the theme for Practicalized started playing in my head, as though. 00:42:41 Speaker 3: There's a theme. Oh god, this is in the nineties when everybody could afford like a. 00:42:47 Speaker 4: I know that's what even I saw the new screen movie and I was like, oh, you don't have like the thing guy doing the soundtrack, Like the soundtrack was such a big part of Scream. 00:42:54 Speaker 3: I have a lot of thoughts. 00:42:57 Speaker 4: But it was just like you know, uh, there was like a curse on their family and it's this whole thing, and then it like curses whoever they fall in love with, and it's kind of set that up. And then she finally finds love and then it's like the curse takes him and then there's just I don't know, it's just it is a movie. I would say that is like about the like the power and the magic of women and female friendships and connection and then it gets ruined by men. 00:43:23 Speaker 3: Is that is that accurate? For yes, Well that's just like a nice time. 00:43:28 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:43:28 Speaker 3: Do they do little spells? Do you get to see them do fun things or you know, lifting objects or shooting fireworks? 00:43:34 Speaker 4: Theape you know nothing about what did they shoot off fire? 00:43:40 Speaker 3: Do they write a broom? If they don't write a broom with I mean, come, but. 00:43:44 Speaker 4: Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. They jump off the house, They jump off out and they land, so they fly down. Yeah, I mean it's a tall house. It's a tall house. And then they do use the brooms to sweep away this. Hear it, I'm an abusive. 00:44:02 Speaker 3: There we go. That's that's a fair and modern use of the broom. Fair Martina, I do, okay, I'm on board brief cameo. But oh, she just lights up the screen every scene she's in. I mean, speaking of the Little Witch Store, speaking of Margo and Algorithm. I started watching this show, Missus Davis, Marco Algorithm. She should be the algorithm. Have you heard of the show, Missus Davis. It's about a nun fighting an algorithm. 00:44:27 Speaker 4: Oh, I really want to watch that with Betty Gilben, who I love. 00:44:31 Speaker 3: Oh, she's incredible. She's so good in it. I mean, she's truly outstanding. 00:44:34 Speaker 4: I think it just it started a couple days ago, right like it finally? 00:44:37 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I haven't. I've been. I mean I can't completely recommend it yet because I barely watch it. But I'm having a good time. She's in a watch things now. You know, you don't have to deserve that. And I'm in my not danging anything era just getting a taste here. 00:44:54 Speaker 4: I still love your taste. Are you are you sober? Because this is not even like a sober person who's like edging on relapse. No, no, I just go there for a little taste. 00:45:04 Speaker 3: I'm fine. I don't need to call anyone. I'm permanently sober. Richard Weineger is permanently sober. So I guess maybe that's my problem, that's what's going on. I don't know, but uh yeah, I mean Margot Martindale's there. She's a nun. So many nuns. We love a non costume. 00:45:20 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think it's isn't it like the isn't that the guy who did lost? 00:45:24 Speaker 3: Yeah? 00:45:25 Speaker 4: Yeah, I really want to watch it. I've literally just been on tour. But I but I very dorkily put it in my calendar for get a minute. I should do that with I do that with TV shows that I'm really excited about. Drops on this date, Lane, don't forget it. I'm like, and then and then I don't. But then what's so funny is sometimes the date will come and I'll be like, I'm tired, but then but then very diligent, I will move it a week out. 00:45:56 Speaker 3: Oh very nice. I love a push. I love push this, dismiss nudge. I love a remind me about the email. Anything that I can just push things into the future. I'll do it not in the moon. 00:46:10 Speaker 4: Don't have it to give, even though it's literally just watching a television show. But I'm like, cannot focus on that at this time. And also, it takes a lot for me to start a new show. 00:46:17 Speaker 3: I mean, it's an investment. 00:46:18 Speaker 4: It's an investment. I gotta know, watch of new people, even though I know I'm gonna like them, but I gotta watch Betty Gilben and be like, this isn't Glow, And then I remember that Glow should have had more time, and then I'm off on that tangent, and then I'm like, I want to rewatch Glow like it's uh my, adhd is wild? 00:46:36 Speaker 3: Do you have a current show you're loving? 00:46:38 Speaker 4: A current show is in one? I'm not rewatching either. 00:46:42 Speaker 3: Okay. 00:46:43 Speaker 4: I am kind of between shows right now, which is the darkest space. 00:46:46 Speaker 3: Writing that's being between shows books. It makes me panic. 00:46:50 Speaker 4: It makes me really really feel like I don't have a safe place to. 00:46:53 Speaker 3: No because you're you're flailing, you're grabbing, there's nowhere to go. Yeah, you feel u lost, you feel scared. It feel really scared. 00:47:03 Speaker 4: And then sometimes you try to go back to one that you recently rewatched a whole bunch and then you're like, I can't do this again. This doesn't feel right, like it takes it like it feels very serious to be in my mind. But I have been Oh, I am watching Oh what is it called, uh, jury Duty? 00:47:18 Speaker 3: Have you seen jury Oh? I've seen the first episode. I've really had a good time. I'm so. 00:47:23 Speaker 4: One of the things on my calendar that I had to push because I was traveling was the the finale. I watched all episodes except for the finale because the finale just aired like a couple of days ago. 00:47:32 Speaker 3: Oh, so they put all the episodes up and then made you white except for one interest, which. 00:47:36 Speaker 4: I thought was interesting because I was like, oh, that's actually that is how I want to watch it. But I did like it. It is weird, it's surprisingly funny. And then when I looked at like who was behind it, I was like, oh, okay. 00:47:46 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a it's a it seems like a fun experiment. 00:47:49 Speaker 4: It was, but it was like, it's a very strange show to watch. But James Marsden is like so unbelievably funny on it, very very funny, and he's like pretty much improvising everything, and like, how are you this funny incredible James Marsden. I just wouldn't have thought that, Like, I mean, he's very funny on rolls, but like plenty of comedic actors are like very funny in their roles, but like kind of quiet or whatever. 00:48:10 Speaker 3: But I was just like, he's outstanding, and he's outstanding. I mean, for the listener, describe what the show is really quick, because it's kind of confusing. 00:48:19 Speaker 4: It's a little confusing. So it's like, basically it's jury duty. Everyone on the jury is an actor except for this one guy, so it's basically just and. 00:48:27 Speaker 3: Then and he doesn't know. 00:48:29 Speaker 4: He doesn't know that that everybody else is an actor, and I didn't know what to expect, Like I didn't really know. And then at first I was like, oh, is this all rehearsed? Because when I was like kind of hate stuff like that, it's just like like in my head, I. 00:48:42 Speaker 3: Was boring to watch. 00:48:43 Speaker 4: He's so boring to watch, and so I kind of thought it was maybe gonna be like that. I'm like, oh, I don't want to see like a like a prank show or something that's. 00:48:50 Speaker 3: Like this poor guy. 00:48:51 Speaker 4: But it really wasn't like that right, And then when I realized that, I was like, oh, because you're interacting with somebody who can do or say anything, you don't know. 00:48:58 Speaker 3: What they're gonna say. Got to be on your toes. 00:49:00 Speaker 4: It actually like is more improvised. So that's interesting. 00:49:04 Speaker 3: It's a fun little show. It's it's more fun than either of us. Yes, yes, I think we should play a game. Yeah, let's do it. We're gonna play a game called Gift Master. I need a number between one and ten from you too. Okay, I have to do some light calculating. So you have the mic. You can promote, recommend, do truly whatever you want with a microphone. Be responsible. You have some power here. I'll be right back. 00:49:27 Speaker 4: Okay, well, uh, I have My second book is out. I feel like I'm talking to a room full of no one, but I know there are real people out there. 00:49:38 Speaker 3: I feel like you've. 00:49:39 Speaker 4: Left me in a room alone to talk about my new book to myself. But I can do it. My second book is out. It's called You Will Find Your People. It's about how to make meaningful friendships as an adult, which is my hell. 00:49:57 Speaker 3: It's it can be really, really horrible. And painful. 00:50:00 Speaker 4: So it's all about how to make friends and maintain relationships and actually have better friendships and get rid of toxic friendships if you need to, and break up with friends, and how to grieve a friend break up and just all of those things. And uh, I do a comedy show called Tinder Live that is very funny and goes on tour and makes fun of horrible dating app profiles. 00:50:25 Speaker 3: You did a perfect job. Thank you, you got it in. You got perfect. I have no no notes, no notes whatsoever. And we're ready to play the game. Now. This is how you play gift Master. I'm gonna name three gifts, three things you can give away, and then three celebrities. You're gonna tell me which gift you're going to give which celebrity and why that makes sense? 00:50:43 Speaker 2: Right? 00:50:43 Speaker 3: Yes it does? Okay, these are the gifts you'll be giving away today. Number one is a terrarium. Nice. Everybody loves a terrarium. 00:50:50 Speaker 4: See can you say I'm obsessed with plans? 00:50:52 Speaker 3: One wonders, Well, this was randomly picked, and there's an interesting one coming up that's barely tied to this episode, but it is interesting. Uh. Number two, the second gift is a bottle of Centrum silver. So that's a vitamin. I think they're for people over fifty. Oh, vitamin for you know your gold. I was thinking of Selson blue. What Seltzon blue? Dandriff shampoo? 00:51:20 Speaker 4: I was thinking about which also my people over fifty, I'm sure. 00:51:22 Speaker 3: I don't everybody gets standard. 00:51:23 Speaker 4: It's fine, okay, So so what is. 00:51:26 Speaker 3: This so far? Uh? Bottle of Centrum silver. You're paid by the Standrift company. I wish call me actually, please don't. Can you imagine? 00:51:41 Speaker 4: I'm like, I love my Dandriff, but sometimes I don't want it. 00:51:46 Speaker 3: Dan Drift positive. Uh no, this is a bottle of Centrum silver. It's a multi vitamin. I believe. Yes, once you hit fifty you've got to get apparently some other vitamins in your body. I don't know how it works. And number three is horrible news. You're gonna be giving them horrible news. Yeah, that's not great. These are the three celebrities. Number one is Kurt Russell Off Kurt Russell. Number two Octavia Spencer terrific. Number three this is the weird one, Keith Urban. We were just talking about Nicole. 00:52:16 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, this. 00:52:17 Speaker 3: Feels like some magic. So what would you. 00:52:19 Speaker 4: Do Octavia Spencer gets the terrarium like she deserves it. I think that's a very obvious. 00:52:24 Speaker 3: One, simply because she deserves it. I think she'd like it. 00:52:28 Speaker 4: It's like really nice. 00:52:30 Speaker 3: It is nice, but it is a responsibility. How much taken care of you? 00:52:35 Speaker 4: Not really though, I wouldn't feel like I was like giving her a chore, like I feel like you just like take a water bongle like sometimes. Yeah, I guess it was a realistic spray bottle noise anyone's ever done in this show. 00:52:48 Speaker 3: I'm willing to bet well every episode I say, what is your spray bottle noise? I'm giving you the. 00:52:53 Speaker 4: Opportunity, wen you listen to them all back and let me know. 00:52:57 Speaker 3: I guess. Yeah, I guess arium is not a huge it's so I think that's good. 00:53:02 Speaker 4: So it's not like I'm like I would be giving her like a plant that like is requiring her undivided attention, has to like hire an assistant to take care of this plant. I would feel bad about that, right, but also like giving her like centrum silver, like I don't know how old she is, but that feels like insulting, right, it feels really weird to be like keep your bones good, Like what that's really rude to say? OKTV a spencer and then the other one don't want to give her horrible news. It's like, you know it's fine, no, no, yeah, So then who were. 00:53:28 Speaker 1: The other ones? 00:53:29 Speaker 3: Russell and Keith Urban, two of our favorite k's. 00:53:34 Speaker 4: Okay, yes, I know exactly what I would do. Kur Russell is getting what is it, centrum silver. 00:53:41 Speaker 3: Yes, centrum silver. He's getting it. 00:53:43 Speaker 4: And here's why, because there's no way he would take it, like because I'm sure he's on like space vitamins. You know, I'm sure he's on like like the finest vitamins, money goodbye, like they all like somebody's always are. 00:53:52 Speaker 3: I feel like he's on the truck driver diet. He's tough as nails. 00:53:56 Speaker 4: Maybe, but I but the reason I would be excited to give it him is I feel like it'd be really gracious when he got it. 00:54:02 Speaker 3: I feel like because what. 00:54:03 Speaker 4: I'm imagining is like it's like after like a Q and A or something like or like meeting or maybe like I'm working on a film set with him and I'm like, oh my god, so working so good, working with you and then I just hand him this bottle of vitamins, and I feel like he'd look at them, he'd shake them and he'd be like and he'd be like thank you Lane hmm. Like he would just be like realized about it. He wouldn't like make a big thing about it. He wouldn't be like what are these? He would like ask all up questions. He'd just be like, well, thank you, and he'd just like move it along. And then the reason I want to give Keith Urban bad news, I feel like he's like such a happy dude like that. Don't mean like I want to like ruin his life. 00:54:35 Speaker 3: I feel like he'd be okay, oh interesting, he can handle it, or like he just the scale is sol. 00:54:40 Speaker 4: Seems a little bit more put upon, doesn't. 00:54:42 Speaker 3: He he's been through I mean, I don't know. 00:54:45 Speaker 4: Because I think I think Keith Urban is like an I think he struggled with addiction. It's not that like there's a good person to give bad news to you, But I feel like Kurt Russell, I don't know, he's always looks a little sad and Keith always. 00:54:56 Speaker 3: Got to real happy, Like Keith Urban's Australian. Is that true? Yeah? And I feel like Australians are naturally happy people, just naturally happier. 00:55:03 Speaker 4: You're marriageing Nicole Kidman, Your life's fine. You got a lot, a lots a lot's going on. 00:55:08 Speaker 3: You don't hear that screeching car? Oh yeah, wow, someone's in danger. That was upsetting. 00:55:13 Speaker 2: Oh. 00:55:13 Speaker 4: Also on my drive here, we like straight we straight up heard somebody like get into like a horrible accident. We just like kept driving and I was like, the city is wild, like we just heard Like I was like, is that just what driving is here? You just like hear people die and you're. 00:55:28 Speaker 3: Like, I have a meeting in five I have a lunch to get to. Yeah, well, I think that's beautifully played. I really like the idea of going up to a celebrity post Q and A and saying, here's a bottom of it sounds dangerous. 00:55:41 Speaker 4: You know, well, I think I think it's better to say that, like if we were working together in some way, because otherwise it just sounds like you like put arsenic on everyone, like. 00:55:49 Speaker 3: The tailant all killer. Do you remember that? No? But but I vaguely I remember that it was a thing. 00:55:55 Speaker 4: Right, we have the caps right? Yes, as far as I know that's another That's another thing that I learned at like two am or I was just like I saw one thing and it led me to the tilt all color. 00:56:07 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a real two am discovery and not a great one to find. 00:56:10 Speaker 4: Not a great one, hell yeah, because it's like, weren't like kids killed or something, and you're like, oh, this gets darker and darker anyway, time for bed, Like it's always right before bed, and then I have the worst dreams I've ever had in my life. 00:56:23 Speaker 3: Because that's how I'm winding down well, beautifully truly, beautifully played. This is the last segment of the podcast. It's called I said no emails. People are writing into I Said no gifts at gmail dot com. My listeners there, you know, their lives have have texture. We'll say that I'm gonna take it easy on them. They've got, you know, some rough patches that they're dealing with, and they're Kurt Russ. They're Kurt Russell's. They are not Keith Urbans. We've got a whole thousands and thousands of Kurt Russell's writing in every day and. 00:56:55 Speaker 4: We're giving them all center of silver. However, you're welcome. 00:57:04 Speaker 3: They're asking questions. They need help. Will you help me answer a question? Okay, let's get into it here. We're opening the dark. Could it be creative? Like Tomorrow Morning? 00:57:12 Speaker 4: Page six is like the new sponsor firsts whatever. The centrum silver is Laine Moore and I'm like, what, No, I like, rigged it so it came up? 00:57:22 Speaker 3: I would be you know what it was? 00:57:25 Speaker 4: Wow, she's a genius. 00:57:28 Speaker 3: Okay, this says deer Bridger and redacted guest. Okay, so that you. I'm writing on behalf of my friend, whose boyfriend is a terrible gift giver. In the two years they've been dating, he has gifted her a sun hat fit for an old woman. Okay, well, I don't know. I feel like sun hats are for everybody, and made a weird custom T shirt of an inside joke. Though she accepted each gift graciously, on both occasions, my friend said privately to me, I'll never wear this. This year, for his birthday, she got him an air fryer. She loves food, and everyone knows she loves their air fryer. Okay, but when she gave it to her boyfriend, he kept making very odd jokes about what a boring gift. 00:58:08 Speaker 2: It is. 00:58:09 Speaker 3: The jokes really bothered my friend, and when the boyfriend asked what was wrong, she cried and told him his response had hurt her feelings. My friend is very serious about this boyfriend, and the two are planning to get engaged. I don't think it's fair that she's possibly facing a lifetime of getting bad gifts from him and disguising her true feelings while he blatantly makes her feel bad for the gifts she gives. Do you think I should point out this imbalance? Should my friend feel empowered to say something to him when she doesn't like the gifts he gives her? Thank you kindly? And that's Katie in New Jersey. What a situation this friend is in. 00:58:42 Speaker 4: I'm really upset by this relationship. I mean, this doesn't sound good. 00:58:46 Speaker 3: This is Splitsville. 00:58:47 Speaker 4: Yeah, I literally the first thing I thought before I even heard about the freaking wedding. 00:58:52 Speaker 3: Oh God, can you imagine? 00:58:53 Speaker 4: And there's was a good gift at the wedding. Hell though, imagine the God registry registry. I guess though they're gonna have to have separate registries. But the first thing I thought before they even mentioned all of the wedding stuff was like, do these people know relationships are voluntary? No one's making you be with this person. You're not like stuck with them. You weren't like a sign like I'm assuming you know it's it's not like an arranged marriage, Like I don't think it is. 00:59:19 Speaker 3: They would have said that. 00:59:20 Speaker 4: But like you can leave them and fite the more compatable because it doesn't sound like it's like a miscommunication. It's like they're both like, I hate your gifts. Ha ha, They're awful. 00:59:31 Speaker 3: Haha. 00:59:31 Speaker 4: I'm miserable. I'm crying now, ha ha. Let's get buried. Like I don't understand these people. I really know among set. 00:59:38 Speaker 3: Two years in and he's gotten her only gifts you can buy at the boardwalk. That feels bad to me. 00:59:43 Speaker 4: He made fun of like the thing that she I. 00:59:46 Speaker 3: Know, which is a great everybody loves an air frier. I don't own one. I should get one because she loves it. Why do you care? I don't. If he doesn't know that she loves air friars, then he's not listening attention to her. It's really upset. I hate you know. I rarely use the word well, actually I use it probably every four hours. I hate this soon to be a fiance I do too. I don't like this. She sounds really unhappy. 01:00:13 Speaker 4: And also the tough thing is in the situation like this is you can't even really say, like, I have some concerns about this, because there's no way she doesn't have them. 01:00:20 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no way. She's she's feeling. 01:00:23 Speaker 4: Also, literally this, this friend whoever they are like, tried to bring it up and she started crying. 01:00:29 Speaker 3: Well, let's see, is that what it was? The boyfriend asked what was wrong? So the friend is not approach The friend is wondering do I approach? I think the friend maybe mildly hints or cheats with the boyfriend and then revealed. 01:00:42 Speaker 4: I mean, I guess if you look at it this way, if the friend hasn't approached it, it's so tough when somebody's like straight up getting married. If they're like on the fence, then it's a lot easier to be like my two sons, this isn't making you happy, But if somebody's getting. 01:00:56 Speaker 3: Married, it feels a lot weirder. Who knows. 01:00:58 Speaker 4: Maybe it's one of those like romantic many weddings where it's like even when they're at the altar, they're just like I don't want to do this, and then you're actually like saving your friend's life. So I mean, I think there might be a way to kind of do it in a in a nice way where you're like, I don't know how serious you want this answer to be, I'm giving it, but I mean I think you could do a like you're probably like I'm sure you're really happy, like you seem really happy. 01:01:21 Speaker 3: Whether that's true or not, I don't know. 01:01:23 Speaker 4: Or you could just say look, actually you could say because they don't seem really happy, so why don't want them? But just saying something like hey, like sometimes I feel like this person makes you kind of unhappy, Like how do you feel about that? I want you to know, like I've seen it too, like no judgment, Like I want you to be happy. 01:01:37 Speaker 1: That's it. 01:01:38 Speaker 4: I think that's just like leaving a door open, because sometimes when you're in a bad relationship, you almost want somebody else to. 01:01:44 Speaker 3: Come in and be like is this good validation? Yeah, because she could. 01:01:48 Speaker 4: Be sitting there being like it's fine, it's fine. 01:01:51 Speaker 3: Boyfriend buys them crappy gifts and that's not no, no, no, no, they should be. I mean, well, I mean, you don't have to give good gift. Some people are bad at giving. But this guy sucks. Let's be honest. 01:02:03 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I don't. I don't like that. I don't like the dynamic. 01:02:07 Speaker 3: I really like it. And also, like you were pointing out the wedding, nobody ever takes advantage of the speak now or forever hold your peace. I mean, if you want to wait at the wedding, you want, that might be the greatest gift you could give her wedding. Yeah, exactly. 01:02:24 Speaker 4: Everyone at the wedding is like, yeah, we were not. 01:02:27 Speaker 3: Here for this, that would be amazing. And then it becomes a party by the guy's like kicked out. I don't know, want to carry him out and throw him in a river or something, burn him at the stake. Yeah, I mean the I mean, the possibilities are truly endless here. Yeah. Okay, uh, Katie, you have your answer. We've done it perfectly. I think we've I mean we've improved a new jersey. Yeah, just by answering an email. That's the power of podcast cancel a week a wedding. I guess it's incredible. We've made some wedding planner furious exactly. Uh, wonderful, Katie. Goodbye. Okay, Now I have my tattoos. I'm so excited. I'll put them on for the Instagram several weeks from now. Yes, but I'm very I'm looking forward to it. It's a little again, a little taste. I'm loving tastes. 01:03:15 Speaker 4: I think that's what's nice about temporary tattoos. It literally is now I think about it, a little taste. Yeah, you got a little thing on your hand or your body or wherever you want to put it. 01:03:23 Speaker 3: I don't care. And then and then and then it's gone whenever you want it to be gone. Hi. Uh, you saw me, You saw me from a mile away, and you came to the podcast and really changed my life. I'm so glad. That's what I like to do on every podcast. It's radically change the Who and then I was I ever real? We don't know. Was she an angel? We're not sure. Do not ask her on your podcast unless you want things to shift in a big way. Laine, thank you for being here and thank you for bringing the dog. 01:03:53 Speaker 4: Yes, thank you for having me, and you're welcome radically changing your life? 01:03:58 Speaker 3: Uh, listener, the podcast. As you know, if you've been listening, and I hope you have, you may have drifted off. I don't know, you may have fallen asleep. There's no telling with you. The podcast is over. It's time to do whatever you want. Get going. I love you, goodbye, I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced by our dear friend Annalise Nilson, and it's beautifully mixed by Leona Squilatchi. And we couldn't do it without our guest booker, Patrick Kottner. The theme song, of course, could only come from miracle worker Amy Mann. You must follow the show on Instagram. At I said no Gifts, I don't want to hear any excuses. That's where you get to see pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see pictures of the gifts? 01:04:48 Speaker 4: And I invit? 01:04:49 Speaker 1: Did you hear thun a man myself perfectly clear? When you're a guest to merha m hmm, you gotta come to me empty And I said, no, guest, your own presence is presents enough. 01:05:11 Speaker 2: I already had too much stuff, So how do you dare to surbey me