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Were with Mbar. 11 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 4: Garcia, Brian brought Us, Votch Lombardi and Derek Eagleton. 12 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 5: It is Monday, November tenth, twenty twenty five, Season twenty one, 13 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 5: episode number seventy three. Welcome to the latest edition of 14 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 5: The Break. We are alive from that s WBC Mortgage 15 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 5: studios at the Star. We are presented by LG. LG's 16 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 5: the world's number one ol A TV brand for eleven 17 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 5: years incounting See why a LG dot com forward slash 18 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 5: O led Evo. Today we will we'll try to do 19 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 5: a couple of things here today. Obviously, there's there's a 20 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 5: there's a cloud that kind of exists over Cowboys Land. 21 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 5: It's been here since Thursday. At Thursday morning, I was 22 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 5: actually planning on sleeping in late. With it being the 23 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 5: bye week. I was trying to get some rest. I 24 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 5: was trying to spend a little time with the family, 25 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 5: just enjoy not thinking about football, and uh. And then 26 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 5: I got a call first thing in the morning, woke 27 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 5: me up. Actually, and I knew, of course, when you 28 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 5: see a coworker it's Nicole actually called me. But when 29 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 5: you see a coworker call in that early on the morning, 30 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 5: when everybody's supposed to, like I told our team get away, 31 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,559 Speaker 5: and I get a call, my first thought is something's wrong. 32 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 5: And and then as she started to tell me what 33 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 5: was going on, obviously my first thought is this can't 34 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 5: be true. Certainly, this is just the Internet doing Internet things. 35 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 5: This can't be true. And the more the morning went on, 36 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 5: the more I found out this is very true. And 37 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 5: the Cowboys had lost their second year defensive end, Marshawn Kneeling. 38 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 5: I want to give everybody an our oportunity to just 39 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 5: kind of speak about it, but you know, I'll just 40 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 5: start by saying I didn't know Marshan particularly well. Being 41 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 5: with the team and traveling with the team and being 42 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 5: around in the locker room, I had the opportunity to 43 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 5: be around him, and and I think it's been said 44 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 5: probably more than anything else, is his infectious smile was 45 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 5: something that I think everyone noticed and also serves as 46 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,839 Speaker 5: a representation for all of us that a smile does 47 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 5: not mean that everything is okay. 48 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 2: And I think I don't want us to. 49 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 5: I think if any of us don't don't think about 50 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 5: that more going forward with regard to the people that 51 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 5: are around us and taking the time to ask how 52 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 5: people are doing, taking the time. I saw Matt Ruhle 53 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 5: was talking about this and he was like, take your 54 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 5: headphones off and have the conversation. And I'm very bad 55 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 5: about I get my work mode and I'm busy and 56 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 5: I've got things going on, and I just don't all 57 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 5: always take the time. But if we don't take this 58 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 5: moment to really learn that it's important to check in 59 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 5: on the people that matter to you and people that 60 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 5: sometimes you might just see in a happening encounter. You 61 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 5: meet somebody, you see someone they don't feel it feels 62 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 5: like something's off with them. Sometimes just maybe asking how 63 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 5: are you doing and literally stopping and saying how are 64 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 5: you doing? 65 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: Can make a difference. And Bro, I want to start 66 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: with you. 67 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 5: I know you probably of all of us, probably had 68 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 5: more opportunity to work with Marshawn. 69 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: Just tell me about your impressions of him. 70 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 6: I mean you said it beautifully with his infectious smile. 71 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 6: He was a guy that he had such a beautiful 72 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 6: smile and so young, very very young. And I only 73 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 6: had a few times that I interacted with him. We 74 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 6: weren't super close, but just like any other person, normal, kind, respectful, 75 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 6: and just full of life. But just like you said, 76 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 6: this is such a hard topic because yeah, we hear 77 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 6: it all the time of like talk to somebody talking 78 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 6: this or checking on somebody, and it's not that easy. 79 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 6: Is that you can be living next to that person 80 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 6: and not really realize what exactly they're going through. And 81 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 6: I know that he lost his mother not too long, 82 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 6: like a little before the draft. He did an interview 83 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 6: with Nicole Hutchinson. She works here Dallas Cowboy's reporter. The 84 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 6: interview is on dallascowboys dot com. And she asked him 85 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 6: about it and he started to cry. And I'm not 86 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 6: saying this is the reason, like, no one really knows 87 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 6: what he was struggling with at the time this whole 88 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 6: thing occurred, but the fact that he was so emotional 89 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 6: about it, you can still see that there's pain behind 90 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 6: the eyes and still mourning. I mean, the stuff losing 91 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 6: the mother whenever in life, but just at the age 92 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 6: where he was about to start his career, about to 93 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 6: really turn into a full grown adult. That is very devastating. 94 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 7: And I know the. 95 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 6: Cowways have the resources, and I know a lot of 96 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 6: people questions like, well, you have money, and you have 97 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 6: this and you have that. It doesn't matter. None of 98 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 6: that matters at the end of the day, even if 99 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 6: you have the resources around you, especially as a man, 100 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 6: I know it is very very difficult for you to 101 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 6: talk and open up and discuss certain things that you're 102 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 6: struggling with because the reality is you don't understand it yourself, 103 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 6: and a lot of people don't understand it either, so 104 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 6: it's hard to communicate. So whoever is listening right now, 105 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 6: the main thing is that that you're not alone. It 106 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 6: happens to so many of us. I struggle with it 107 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 6: to myself, and the one thing that is comforting is 108 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 6: knowing that you're not the only one going through things. 109 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 6: It's different situations, different scenarios, but there are so many 110 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 6: of us that deal with mental problems, whether it's depression, anxiety, 111 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 6: panic attacks, whatever form it is. We all react to 112 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 6: it differently, and when you're in it, it's very difficult 113 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 6: for you to see the light at the end of 114 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 6: the tunnel, and you just want the pain to go away. 115 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 6: And that's why so many people lose their lives because 116 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 6: at the moment, you're in this space where you really 117 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 6: see no resolution, and the best thing to do is 118 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 6: to reach out for help, get on their treatment and 119 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 6: find out what you can do, because I promise you 120 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 6: even if it does if at the time I've been 121 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 6: on the low, I've been on the ground praying to God, 122 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 6: and I always come out of it. It's just the cycle. 123 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 6: So you have a full life ahead of you and 124 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,799 Speaker 6: you're out by yourself and know that there is help 125 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 6: out there that you can reach out. And I know 126 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 6: this is very difficult, and you see, you know what's 127 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 6: devastating is like you see Dak being such an advocate 128 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 6: for as for help and then it's like a teammate, 129 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 6: this happens to someone that's very close. So it's it's 130 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 6: hard to give an answer because I don't even have 131 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 6: the answer, but just know that you're not alone and 132 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 6: the best thing to do is ask for help. And 133 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 6: it's just it's very I'm still trying to process everything 134 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 6: because it's so hard. It's so hard to imagine that 135 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 6: someone's so young. After coming out of that game where 136 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 6: he had such a big play, where you think, wow, 137 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 6: such a successful moment after all the criticism happening throughout 138 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 6: the season for the defense overall, and then you get 139 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 6: such a big breakout play where you score a touchdown 140 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 6: and you're celebrating. You would imagine, oh, yeah, you should 141 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 6: be on top of the world and happy, but that's 142 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 6: not the reality. Sometimes the smile is facade, and what 143 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 6: you're dealing with inside just it's it's tough. It's tough, 144 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 6: and it's hard to process and deal with it. But 145 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 6: the best thing is to talk about it. 146 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, the news was tough, it was difficult. It kicked 147 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 4: off as a rumor and like, boy, that's a terrible 148 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 4: roomor for it to be a you know, to be that, but. 149 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 3: It ended up being like a like a real thing. 150 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 4: And the first thing I did was I just text around, 151 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 4: I just checked in on my people, just tapped in 152 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 4: it with some of my YouTube friends, some of the 153 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 4: people I've met here at a dot com and you know, 154 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 4: conversation goes a long way. 155 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 6: Uh. 156 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 4: Prior to all this YouTube content, I worked at a 157 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 4: mental health hospital for six years and I de escalated 158 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 4: a ton. I've seen it all, but it never gets easier. 159 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 4: And you'd be surprised if somebody's like an inch away 160 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 4: from something. Hey, man, what's up, hey bro, what's going on? 161 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 4: Da da da da da da da da da da. 162 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 4: We'll come talk to you for a minute, you know, 163 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 4: just twelve hours a day, five days a week. Hey, 164 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 4: let me come talk. That was that's a that's a 165 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 4: that's an intro to everything, no matter what the issue. Hey, 166 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 4: let me just I'm just how ed four second and 167 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 4: let somebody get it off their chest. Let somebody get 168 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 4: something off they mind. I think you know nowadays people 169 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 4: are so isolated. You know, we put these headphones on, 170 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,599 Speaker 4: we walk around, people on these phones, text and you 171 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 4: don't really get a chance to interact with a lot 172 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 4: of people all the time. 173 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 3: Right. I was kind of boring to raise to just 174 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 3: bother the hell out of how you doing, what's going on? 175 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,719 Speaker 3: How you doing it? It's a greeting, but how you doing? 176 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 3: What's happening? What's happening? 177 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 4: You may run into somebody that'll respond to your what's 178 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 4: happening with Hey, if just can I talk to you 179 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 4: for a minute. Now, it's on me to be approachable. Yeah, 180 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 4: what's up? So I just challenge everybody to be approachable. 181 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 4: Take the headphones out, get off the phone, because you 182 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 4: never know who you're gonna run into that might need 183 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 4: to just get some off their chest, some off their mind. 184 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 4: Just just a quick story of working at the hospital. 185 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 4: And I learned and so much from just one man. 186 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 4: Uh worked at NASA. Job you can't even pronounce. He's 187 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 4: a hypro syphilis shrifler therapist. He keeps aliens from taking 188 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 4: over the earth. Best job in the world, millions of dollars. 189 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 4: And I'm just like, you know, just naively, Hey man, 190 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 4: what you what you're doing here? You know, like I'm broke, 191 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 4: and hey. 192 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 3: What you what you're doing? 193 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: Ahead? 194 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 3: What you you know what I'm saying. 195 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 4: And he lost a friend, just somebody close to him, 196 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 4: and that spiraled him in a ridiculous way. And what 197 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 4: that taught me was depressed, ain't sad. You can get 198 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 4: up and walk off sad. Depressed your legs don't work. 199 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 4: And now you know, you could be conflicted with things 200 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 4: in your mind that you can't get off of. Because 201 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 4: it's so much deeper than just saying it's something that 202 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 4: just takes over your entire existence and you just can't 203 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 4: control it. 204 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 3: So we just can't be. 205 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 4: Like, oh, how I can't understand how or man you 206 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 4: got everything? How man you can have a million million 207 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 4: whatever is, you can have a nice whatever, great life, 208 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 4: blockpunt whatever. 209 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 2: Bro. 210 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 4: You just never know because once something kicks into you, 211 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 4: you don't have control to just get out of that. 212 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 3: You need the help. 213 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 4: Cancer has been funded for three thousand years. Mental health 214 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 4: only got a decade and a half, you know, to 215 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 4: two decades where the government is saying, hey, let's put 216 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 4: some work into figuring out what's actually going on so 217 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 4: that we can fix this kind of stuff. So mental 218 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 4: health is still very young. But if you have any signs, 219 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 4: if you going through anything, just reach out and get 220 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 4: some help because there's a ton of resource, but we 221 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 4: won't know until you tell us. 222 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, usually the locker room is a place where you 223 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 7: can you can be a little bit vulnerable with your situation, 224 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 7: with your emotions and stuff. And you know, we talk 225 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 7: about in football, how you know tough and hard and 226 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 7: things are and you know, and how you have to 227 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 7: fight through things and all that. Well, this just goes 228 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 7: to show you that there's really there's just no place 229 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 7: sometimes you know that you can turn to even if 230 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 7: you have a room full of brothers and some some 231 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 7: sisters have now been added to these to these locker rooms. 232 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 7: You know, you have to be able to to go 233 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 7: forward and say that. But you know, you don't want 234 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 7: to be that guy that's always you know that is 235 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 7: not looked at as a tough guy. But that that 236 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 7: was from my era of football. You know, we're in 237 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 7: a new era of football. We're in a new era 238 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 7: of life where people are able to step forward and 239 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 7: and and and say, hey, I'm having problems. This is difficult. 240 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 7: And I thought everybody around the table here said the 241 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 7: absolute right thing about what needs to be done. I'll 242 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 7: say this. I'm going to focus on the young man. 243 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 7: He was a developing football player. He really really was. 244 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 7: He was a guy that we had some questions about 245 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 7: coming into the draft and stuff. But you know what, 246 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 7: he got better every time you watched him play, he 247 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 7: got a little better. And that's the thing that was 248 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 7: a credit for him that he was all the things 249 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 7: that he was going through, that he came and did 250 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 7: his job every single day, and it was getting better 251 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:57,239 Speaker 7: at it. And it's unfortunate though that that that development 252 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 7: has now been cut short. And but I totally you know, 253 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 7: it's one of these things that like, you don't always 254 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 7: have to be the toughest guy in the room. You 255 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 7: really really don't. You can tell people, hey, I need 256 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 7: your help, and if you're really really a friend of somebody's, 257 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 7: you will help. You'll listen, You'll be better listeners for. 258 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 5: It's I do want to before we go to break, 259 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 5: I want to read this post that Solomon Thomas had 260 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 5: via his Instagram. He said, brother, Marshawn, I love you. 261 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 5: I wish you knew it was going to be okay. 262 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 5: I wish you knew the pain wouldn't last. And how 263 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 5: loved you are. I wish you knew how bad we 264 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 5: wanted you to stay. My heart breaks for you and 265 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 5: your loved ones. We will lift your spirit up every day, 266 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 5: and I think that really sums up what so many 267 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 5: of us are feeling today, for both Marshawn and for 268 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 5: his family. I will say this also, if you are 269 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 5: someone you know needs help. The National Suicide Lifeline in 270 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 5: the US is available by calling or texting nine to 271 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 5: eight eight. There's also an online chat at nine to 272 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 5: eight eight lifeline dot org. For more information on mental health, 273 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 5: visit mentalhealth dot gov. Call one eight eight, I'm sorry, 274 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 5: one eight hundred to seven to three talk. 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It's a pepper thing. 334 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 6: Back to the Break, Choose Perfection, Choose lgolet evo check 335 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 6: out the best TV in the game at Alga dot com. 336 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 2: Welcome Back. 337 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 5: It is the second segment of The Break live from 338 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 5: the SWBC Mortgage studios at the Star. The second's brought 339 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 5: to you by blockchain dot Com. 340 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 2: All right, So here's the thing. 341 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 5: One thing that I know for me personally, and I 342 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 5: assume it's for most people out there that are listening, 343 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 5: is sports entertainment. It is our diversion. It is what 344 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 5: gets us away from the really, really tough things about life, 345 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 5: because we all got tough things going on in our 346 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 5: lives from time to time throughout life. 347 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 2: And uh. And so what we have been. 348 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 5: Charged with doing, what a lot of our job is 349 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 5: about here is it's being media for the Cowboys or 350 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 5: talking about the Cowboys, is to help make that that 351 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 5: distraction enjoyable for you guys. 352 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 2: And so we're gonna do that. 353 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 5: We're going to spend the rest of this show talking 354 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 5: about the team as you guys have come to expect 355 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 5: from us. And in no way is it meant to 356 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 5: be disrespectful in any way to what's going on. We 357 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 5: understand the gravity of it, but at the same time, 358 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 5: we also feel like we want to bring a smile 359 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 5: to you, and we want to bring you some enjoyment 360 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 5: and and and let you know. 361 00:17:58,280 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 2: That we're going to get through this. 362 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 5: We we will as a group, we will get through 363 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 5: this and we'll be okay. 364 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 2: So here's what we're going to do. In the second segment. 365 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 2: We're going to do a little bit of a mid 366 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 2: year review. 367 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 5: We're going to talk a little bit about what's happened 368 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 5: over the first half of this season that's led the 369 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 5: Cowboys to a three five and one record. But you know, 370 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 5: but there's one of the good things is we got 371 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,719 Speaker 5: a comedian. It's funeral on here with us. 372 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 4: The best part about a funeral is you got one 373 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 4: uncle that'll tell the jokers just kind of yeah, lift 374 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 4: it all off a little bit, you know what I mean. 375 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 3: So I've here. 376 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 5: You know, I've actually told my I told my wife 377 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 5: and my daughter. We were having a conversation about, you know, death, 378 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 5: and I told them, I said, when I passed away, 379 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 5: what I need you guys to do, don't spend money 380 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 5: on an expensive casket. Don't spend money on an expensive 381 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 5: bouquet of flowers. 382 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 2: I'm gone. 383 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 5: What I want you to do is, I want you 384 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 5: to take that money, and I want you to hire 385 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 5: the best comedian that you can get, and I want 386 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 5: you to bring them and I want you to have 387 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 5: a memorial service where you let that person talk about 388 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 5: my life in whatever term they want to talk about 389 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 5: it because my goal, because my goal is my goal 390 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 5: is I want everyone to leave there not having memorialized me, 391 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 5: but do it in a way to where everyone. 392 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 2: Walks away with a smile. 393 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 5: And and I think, I think that is how I want, 394 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 5: how I choose to be remember And that's also how 395 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 5: I deal with death personally. For me, like I've dealt 396 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 5: with death throughout my life, I dealt with as a 397 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 5: young person, and so it like comedy has been my outlet. 398 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 5: It's been my way to kind of deal with those emotions. 399 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 5: And so I get that. 400 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 4: Likewise, I'm not getting fired today. But likewise, for sure, 401 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. You gotta you gotta kind 402 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 4: of loosen up the room and get everybody back on train. 403 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 7: I've I've got you beat already. Derek Helman told me 404 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 7: he's going to deliver my eulogy. 405 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 2: That would David. 406 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 7: Hellman is going to stand up there and tell you about. 407 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 3: Can we last? 408 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 1: Oh? 409 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 7: Sure? Yeah. I hope it doesn't happen too soon. I've 410 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 7: already talked to Helmet. 411 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 3: Need you. 412 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 7: I've already talked to Helme and I said, listen, I 413 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 7: want you to go up there and stand up there, 414 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 7: and talk about me when this is all same, that. 415 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 2: That is is better than any coming. 416 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 9: I think. 417 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 7: I think he'll encapsulate everything that I you know, the 418 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 7: LSU brothers that we are, but I think the age 419 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 7: difference and the fact that he and I he is, 420 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,479 Speaker 7: he is, he is one of my favorite people. So 421 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 7: but yeah, I know where you're going with that. I 422 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 7: understand what you're doing. 423 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 2: All right, here's what we're gonna do. 424 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 5: Let's talk a little bit about what's happened so far 425 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 5: in this first half of the season. My first question 426 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 5: for you guys is which was the better offensive addition, 427 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 5: George Pickens or Javonte Williams. 428 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 4: I'll speak for Willias because I know Brian's gonna talk 429 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 4: about Pickings. I got his answer, But I just think 430 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 4: Williams brings so much like toughness to the party, so 431 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 4: much tough running to the party, and that's infectious. 432 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 3: Pickings got some infections too, bro, Bra. 433 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 4: But but but you know, picking Williams kind of kind 434 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 4: of makes it easier for everybody else, which is why, 435 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 4: you know, like if I could tell Shotty one thing, 436 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 4: he don't watch the show, but if I could tell 437 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 4: shot is just just one thing, like hey man, even 438 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 4: if we're getting down in some of these games. Sometimes 439 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 4: I know it's tough, but try not to get away 440 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 4: from the run game. I know sometimes in this uh 441 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 4: you know, in this attempt to catch up to uh, 442 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 4: you know, the points and all this kind of stuff. 443 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 4: Defense may be down and you're trying to catch up fast. 444 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 4: It may benefit the Cowboys offense to catch up slow, 445 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 4: because as soon as you stop running, everything looks totally different. 446 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 4: You look at Arizona Cardins Game Boy, the run game 447 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 4: was there. I would say even in Denver, the run 448 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 4: game was there. I just I just wish, you know, 449 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 4: we lean into that a little bit more. But Javonte 450 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 4: has been fantastic for and I don't think we can 451 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 4: afford him. I don't think we'll be able to bring 452 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 4: him back. He's looking like a ten million dollar back 453 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 4: next year. 454 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with Pickens and damn right. 455 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 3: Hey manball talk. 456 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 7: Let her talk well, even. 457 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 6: Though even though I have you have seen we'll be quiet. 458 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 3: You're like, let her. 459 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 6: Talk, but that won't be quiet. 460 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 3: Where you go. 461 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 2: Please let her talk. 462 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 3: Let her talk for more, ma'am. 463 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 6: Even though I have seen the same things that you 464 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 6: guys have seen as far as the different backs that 465 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 6: the Cowboys have carried over the years. Somehow I still 466 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 6: hold onto this belief that with a good offensive line 467 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 6: you can make most decent backs be successful. Sure, some 468 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 6: are tougher than others, and some will give you those 469 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 6: extra yards with that push, but I'm still holding onto 470 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 6: that theory. I don't know why because I've seen the 471 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 6: ones that haven't been as good, But as long as 472 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 6: you have a good offensive line, you're gonna get usually 473 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 6: the best out of a running back. Now, with the 474 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 6: wide receivers, it's been a while since the Cowboys have 475 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 6: had two really good wide receivers. So yes, I'm putting 476 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 6: that number one on my list because I'm enjoying what 477 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 6: i'm seeing. I was lacking some of that. I was 478 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 6: still in the whole wide receiver by committee era. Moving 479 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 6: on from that, and now you feel like you're more subtled. 480 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 6: I do hope that they do give him a contract 481 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 6: because I want two wide receivers are stable, constant and 482 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 6: can keep going. Here with the Cowboys and George Pickens 483 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 6: his special his special branding cooks, we saw some potential there, 484 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 6: but he never got really going. He had some success 485 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 6: Mike McCarthy he had a slight success but never really 486 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 6: worked out. So again, I'm just I'm enjoying a lot 487 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 6: more what I see from George Pickens. However, that's a 488 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 6: tough question, Derek, because they're bull valuable able. 489 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 7: I can't get over the soul. Mike McCarthy thinks it 490 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 7: ain't fake. It's not fake, you know what. To me, 491 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 7: this offense I think would completely have fallen apart Ceedee 492 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 7: Lamb went out for several games. And what happened. You 493 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 7: did not miss a beat, you really did. Your offense 494 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 7: was still functioning. Yeah, Williams running the football, the offensive line. 495 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,479 Speaker 7: I have some questions about your offensive line right now, 496 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 7: you know, to be honest with you. Yeah, But but 497 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 7: to me, you know Williams for what he did, I 498 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 7: think this is we could talk about scheme, we could 499 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 7: talk about coaching, we could talk about players. But Votch 500 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 7: is right. He's shown a lot of toughness running the football, 501 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 7: and I think that's something as admirable. But you think 502 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 7: about having this offense without Ceedee Lamb playing in it, 503 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 7: you know, Dak Prescott not having somebody to throw the 504 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 7: football to. George Pickens stepped up in those games he 505 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 7: was out, and George Pickens every week gives you a 506 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 7: chance because he plays. He plays exceptional football. You know, 507 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 7: Williams is very has played very well. I think George 508 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 7: Pickens has played at at completely another level. And I 509 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 7: think there's there's a side of me that is this. 510 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 7: There's certain games, in certain situations where I think George 511 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 7: Pickens has been a better player than Ceedee lamb, go 512 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 7: ahead there, do the right thing. 513 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 5: I will tell you I agree with Amber and Bryant 514 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 5: on this one mainly because mainly because when you when 515 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 5: you think about what George Pickens has done, and when 516 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 5: you think about the fact that quite frankly we're seeing 517 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 5: right now from Rico dawdle, the Cowboys probably could have 518 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 5: done this last season if they would have committed to 519 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 5: actually running the ball earlier in the season. 520 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know that. 521 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I don't know that. 522 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 5: This is a so much about Javonte Williams as much 523 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 5: as it is about shoddy and shoddy having an offensive 524 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 5: mind from the standpoint. 525 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 2: Of we are going to run the ball. He does, 526 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 2: he does. 527 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 5: But but I do think the rico' dondle we're saying 528 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 5: it this year really good running back. He is a 529 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 5: really good running back, and Cowboys had him and did 530 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 5: not use him to that potential. And so yes, I 531 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 5: think Javonte Williams has been a great addition. I think 532 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 5: he does some things and I think personally he does 533 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 5: some things that that that Rico maybe on the Rico's 534 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 5: game in the same way, I think the tough style 535 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 5: with which he runs, I think is a little bit 536 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,479 Speaker 5: unique to him relative to those two backs. But all 537 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 5: those things being considered, man, when Pickens came in here, 538 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 5: he changed the complexion of this offense. 539 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 2: And certainly I don't think. 540 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 5: They would have been able to move the ball because 541 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 5: we've seen this happen before when CD was out. If 542 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 5: they didn't have George Pickens, I don't think they would 543 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 5: have moved the ball effectively at all. 544 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 2: I think he has meant a ton of this team. 545 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 5: And I agree with you, Brian, I think at moments 546 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 5: that during this year, even when CD is in there, 547 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 5: he looks like he is he is the guy that's 548 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 5: been a little bit more productive for you at times. 549 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 2: But yeah, I go with you, guys with George Pickens 550 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 2: on now. 551 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 4: Well, I tell you what this would be the last 552 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 4: time I try to be a good podcaster, right, because 553 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,199 Speaker 4: the correct answer is pickings. 554 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 3: But yeah, let me take that. I was trying to 555 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 3: be a good podcast can't favorite. 556 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 7: Us a favorite? Then okay, you have another question real quick? 557 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, take take no, take take. 558 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 7: The all right, I'm gonna take the Williams approach. You 559 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 7: take pickings. 560 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 4: I think some of your biggest plays come from come 561 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 4: from pickings. And you know, lamb may may be the 562 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 4: better work in the offense and move to chains and 563 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 4: and I don't want to. I don't feel right talking 564 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 4: about cde Lambing that way because he's a he's a 565 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 4: fantastic player as well. But all the big tests, sure, 566 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 4: all all the big plays, all the game change and plays, 567 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 4: all the when you need to catch the toe taps 568 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 4: on the sidelines, the big stuff, the pi s it 569 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 4: has it has been pickings for sure. 570 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, I tell you what. The thing with Williams though, 571 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 7: and you mentioned the element of toughness that he's brought. 572 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 7: He is a complete back. They've been searching for a 573 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 7: complete back here for a while, a guy that can 574 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 7: pick up. They don't use him enough to catching the ball. 575 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 7: By the way, that's another thing. But there there is 576 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 7: a you can make a really, really really good argument 577 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 7: some people can, others can't about Williams being the best 578 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 7: player here, you know, in this situation. Yeah. 579 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 5: The other thing out through on too, as you were 580 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 5: talking about CD and relative to George Pickens, Yeah, I 581 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 5: actually think it's a great thing that George Pickens has 582 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 5: had those moments because what it's going to do is 583 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 5: in the second half of this season. Watch what I'm 584 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 5: telling you. It means CD's gonna have some huge, humongous games. 585 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 5: And I think it's going to happen because teams have 586 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 5: to think about Pickings as justice lethal weapon as they 587 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 5: do CD, and sometimes when you have that new addition 588 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 5: to a team, teams still say we're gonna first take 589 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 5: away CD. We're gonna make you prove to us that 590 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 5: you can do it without CD or with a limited CD. 591 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 5: They've proven that now they know George Pickens can have 592 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 5: those kinds of games, and so I do think that 593 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 5: in the second half of the year you're gonna see 594 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 5: some of those games from CD where he's gonna just 595 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 5: go absolutely ham and have a great, great game because 596 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 5: he's got that other compliment on the other side of 597 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 5: the field. All right, let's move on to the next 598 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 5: question I have for you guys. Which of these players 599 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 5: is that is Dallas relying on most to have an 600 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 5: impactful second half. Trayvon Diggs, the Marve and Overshown are 601 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 5: Donovan Wilson. 602 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 3: I think I think Jerry put a ton of pressure 603 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 3: on the linebacker. 604 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 13: Man. 605 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 4: I think when you know Demo comes back, I mean, 606 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 4: it's it's on you and then his own flues. 607 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 3: But hey, man, we got you a. 608 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 4: I mean, after the trades, it's all on over Shawk, 609 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 4: it's all on I think it is all on Ocean. 610 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 5: Now. 611 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 4: You can be like, hey, we got you quinn in 612 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 4: to help over shonn Yea, or we got you Logan 613 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 4: to assist we overshow, But this is this is Overshon's 614 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 4: problem right now. So I think the cawboy if he 615 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 4: shows up as that guy, and it's so unfair to 616 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 4: ask of him off a major injury like that, but boy, 617 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 4: he did it last year. I thought I thought that 618 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 4: that last year's Andrey was going to be a set back, 619 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 4: and he was ten toes down whipping feet. So I 620 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 4: would just hope that he does the same thing. 621 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 3: Please, my question. 622 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 6: So with Logan Logan, when he was traded, I know 623 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 6: it was mentioned a lot he is automatically your best linebacker. 624 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 6: Was that taking into consideration like a healthy overshown or 625 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 6: what the word the overshown line up there? 626 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, well we all knew that that he was go 627 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 4: to come back but be more of like a will 628 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 4: linebacker type guy. So I think we're looking for Mike's. 629 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 4: We're looking for Mike's and you know, green dyke backers. 630 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 4: And I still think they're gonna maybe move green dot 631 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 4: around because Logan just got here. I don't know, we'll 632 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 4: see it just depends on how fast he can, you know, 633 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 4: pick things up. But I think we've always thought it's 634 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 4: overshown and who uh will be so positive to day man, 635 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 4: I'm gonna say that's about nobody man, But. 636 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, Logan, But but yeah, Logan Wilson. 637 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 4: I knew Logan was gonna come right in and we 638 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 4: would just get better by simply just playing him a 639 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 4: little bit more. 640 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 5: Of as a sign up real quick, you said Mike 641 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 5: linebacker For those who don't know, that means middle linebacker. 642 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 5: He said, will linebacker. That means weak line week side 643 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 5: linebacker for those that don't don't don't know that furbige. 644 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 4: I can get I can get super nerd and tell 645 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 4: you sometime the Mike ain't always the mic. 646 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 3: But that is fair. 647 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair. 648 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just saying in general terms, when you hear 649 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 5: Mike music, the middle here will usually that's the week 650 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 5: side weeks who. 651 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 7: Won the defenses? Running down? Anybody who in the like 652 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 7: the first nine ten weeks is run down. You talk 653 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 7: about pressure, Yeah, they don't. They don't have they haven't 654 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 7: had any speed on defense. Now you potentially have that speedback. 655 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 7: Who's the guy that's going to make plays behind the 656 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 7: line of scrimmage, Who's the guy that's going to run 657 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,479 Speaker 7: somebody down in the flat? Who's the guy that's going 658 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 7: to make maybe a blitz of a sack. They haven't 659 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 7: had that guy. You talked about pressure, Yeah, it's clearly 660 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 7: on that that that zero out there. I mean, he 661 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 7: is a he is they that he is going to 662 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,959 Speaker 7: hopefully bring to them something they haven't had in nine games, 663 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 7: and that's somebody that can play with the burst and 664 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 7: can finish plays because this this defense has been giving 665 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 7: up huge plays and hopefully he'll be a guy that 666 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 7: will limit some of those. 667 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 2: Well, here's the deal. 668 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 6: You mentioned Trevon, But then when when are you expecting 669 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 6: him back? 670 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 5: Look, that's the thing, here's my deal. I look at 671 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 5: these players and the ones I just named, I heard 672 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 5: you say is the easy answer. 673 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 2: I don't think it is. Because they got they got 674 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 2: help for. 675 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 5: The defensive line, they got helpful the linebackers. They didn't 676 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 5: bring in any help for the secondary. And Brian, you 677 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 5: just mentioned all those big plays. A lot of those 678 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 5: big plays right now are happening deep down the field. 679 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 5: You got issues where your secondary is having some issues. 680 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 5: We've been hearing about communication since the beginning of the season. 681 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 5: So for me, when I look at this question, yes, 682 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 5: I think Demarveon overshown should help. I think right now 683 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 5: the biggest area where they're going to need and the 684 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 5: question was who is Dallas relying on most to have 685 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 5: an impactful second half? I think it has to be 686 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 5: one of those guys in the secondary, because if they 687 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 5: don't get that impactful second half from one of those 688 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 5: guys and this secondary doesn't solidify, I don't care how 689 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 5: much help you got for the defensive line, how much 690 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 5: help you got for the linebackers, you're still gonna have problems, 691 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 5: especially against some of these teams you got to play 692 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 5: that have some really really big time receiving options and 693 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 5: really good quarterbacks. That's gonna be a challenge for them 694 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 5: if they can't get that level of play when those 695 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 5: guys come back. 696 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 7: I think you have a better chance. This is going 697 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 7: to sound crazy with what guys like Revel and Carson 698 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 7: and those guys showing up that. 699 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 5: Which, by the way, you've you mentioned on the break 700 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 5: sounds like Revel is gonna Revel. 701 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 7: Revel and overshow both are full goes. So there's a 702 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 7: possibility that you know, both of them are going to 703 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 7: be active this week playing and how much you use Revel, 704 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 7: you know, but you're you're you're absolutely right. You're going 705 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 7: to need somebody in the secondary play. And my hope 706 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 7: is though that you know that one of these guys 707 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 7: that I just mentioned does show up. And I know 708 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 7: he hasn't played. We haven't ever seen him play. Heck, 709 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 7: we haven't seen him play a preseason game. But you 710 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 7: know what, to me, there there needs to be some 711 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 7: changes in the back end and maybe you can get 712 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 7: you know, let's be honest, Bland did not play very 713 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 7: well last week, but we've seen Bland play better. Unfortunately, 714 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 7: though this secondary is not good and and there's been 715 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 7: it hasn't been good with Digs playing in some of 716 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 7: those games. So I think there, I think that's something 717 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 7: we need to look at and. 718 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 6: See your question a little differently because on one and 719 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 6: expectation wise, I expect more out of over Shown because 720 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 6: we know what he can do, We're excited about his 721 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 6: comeback and all of that. At the same time, you 722 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 6: get some help at defensive tackle, which in essence is 723 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 6: going to help the linebacker position, which you also got 724 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 6: help at, and now you're adding Overshown. So even if 725 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 6: he struggles a little bit, I think you're gonna, at 726 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 6: least me, I'm gonna cut him some slack because he's 727 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 6: returning from a pretty big significant injury. Now moving on 728 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 6: to the secondary, Trevon Diggs at this point, I don't 729 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 6: know what to say because I'm still I know, with 730 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 6: the whole concussion thing, it's been mentioned, he's under his 731 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 6: other injury on what is it that they need that 732 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 6: he's still struggling with and all that, But I think 733 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 6: the biggest pressure is right there. I don't know what 734 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,399 Speaker 6: it looks like in the contract. I know he got 735 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 6: it not too long ago, but at this point, let's 736 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 6: say he doesn't do much. I mean, do you cut 737 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 6: him by the end of the like heading into next year. 738 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 6: I don't know contract wise what it looks like. But 739 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,720 Speaker 6: at the end of the day, what has he actually 740 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 6: given you this year? And yes, I'm being also, you 741 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 6: have to look at the injuries. You can't dismiss that. 742 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 6: But at the same time, you you hear things and 743 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 6: you see things, and it's just like all kind of 744 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 6: pilot up. 745 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,359 Speaker 5: Well, I think I think that's the conversation that will 746 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 5: be had at the end of the season. 747 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 2: I think for right now, and it's one of the 748 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 2: things I've I've. 749 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:22,879 Speaker 6: Been very That's what I'm saying. 750 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 2: He would be the one I think about his pressure. 751 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 5: I think I think Dallas is a better team with 752 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 5: him on it right now, and so I think they 753 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 5: are relying on him. I think on him when he 754 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 5: comes back. If they're going to have any kind of 755 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 5: success for the rest of the season, they're gonna need 756 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 5: Trayvon Diggs to be Trayvon Diggs. They're gonna need to 757 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 5: be They're gonna need him to be the guy that 758 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 5: he's been at his best for this team because that. 759 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 7: Level Land just needs to be thrown. 760 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 3: Agree with that. 761 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 5: But I'll tell you this, I'm not as concerned about 762 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,439 Speaker 5: Bland because Blaine had a bad game. But we've seen 763 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 5: Bland even what was this two three weeks ago, he 764 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 5: had a really great game. I think Bland is a guy, 765 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 5: by the way, playing cornerback in the National Football League. 766 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,720 Speaker 2: There are gonna be days like that. Trust me, They're. 767 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,280 Speaker 5: Gonna watch any cornerback in the league. There are gonna 768 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 5: be days like that when man, you just you getting 769 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 5: you're getting beat up, and that's gonna happen. 770 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 2: But that being said, I'm not worried about Bland right now. 771 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 5: I just think from the standpoint of getting his body right, 772 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 5: more than anything else, that's what you need from Treyvon 773 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 5: dis because I think a Trayvon dig a healthy Trayvon 774 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 5: Digs is more than capable providing for the secondary what 775 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 5: they need. He just got to get his body right, 776 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 5: and if he can get his body right, I think 777 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 5: that's who the Cowboys are gonna be relying on more 778 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 5: than anybody else in the second half to really have 779 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 5: a better half and to help propel them to some success. 780 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 2: There are we gonna take our final break. When we 781 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 2: come back, I have a list of players. 782 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 5: I'm gonna ask you, guys, which player would be most 783 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 5: impactful if they had more playing time. 784 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 2: We'll be back. 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I got one more question 845 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,800 Speaker 5: for you guys before we end the show today. I 846 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,879 Speaker 5: got four names. Which of these players will be most 847 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 5: impactful for Dallas with more playing time? 848 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 7: Stop it? 849 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 3: What's going on? Man? 850 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 5: Ryan LLINOI, Nate Thomas, Debian Clowney or Brevins van Ford? 851 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:52,959 Speaker 3: What was the question? 852 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,799 Speaker 2: Which of these players will be more impactful? 853 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 3: With more playing time, all right, and name again please, Yeah. 854 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 5: Ryan Flinoy, Nate Thomas, Youdevian Clowney for Brevin Span. 855 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 3: For clown Clowny Cloudy. Okay. 856 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 4: Uh So where I'm at, where I'm at with that 857 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 4: room in particular. Uh, you know, there's a lot of 858 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 4: rotating going on. I think it's in the uh it's 859 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 4: in white Cotton's tool belt to like rotate all this, guys, 860 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 4: I think you need to like hunker down on a 861 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 4: little bit of that. And they have been doing that, 862 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,919 Speaker 4: which I've noticed. But I kind of want to play 863 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,880 Speaker 4: the best guys the most, So I need Donvinezaraku to 864 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 4: get most to go, and also I need Clowney to 865 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 4: get most to go. Just come off when you tied, 866 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 4: and we'll just move on from there, just for the 867 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 4: sake of podcasting. You know, we were just up here talking. 868 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 4: I think Brevin should get a clup. More shots too, 869 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 4: shots out, don't Luke man. Luke hadn't necessarily done anything 870 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 4: to lose his job, per se, you know what I mean. 871 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 4: He ain't messing up, he ain't doing nothing wrong. But 872 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 4: I think Brevin gives you so much more as a 873 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 4: blocker and then when he catches the football, he's two 874 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 4: hundred and seventy He's a big dude. Cornerbacks ain't really 875 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 4: trying to tackle two hundred and seventy pounds. And when 876 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 4: we've seen Brevin catch passes, it looks that way. When 877 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 4: when we've seen him thrash people blocking, it's been that way. 878 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 4: You ain't got a fire Luke or nothing like that. 879 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 4: But I would love to see a little bit more 880 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 4: Brevin and consistently more Clowny. He need to be starting 881 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:19,320 Speaker 4: with Novinez Rocket. 882 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 883 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 6: I think all of those names are really good ones, 884 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 6: and they could all benefit from having more playing time. 885 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 6: But for me, the one that stands out the most 886 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 6: would be Clowny, mainly because it's in an area that 887 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 6: you really really need extra help, You really need to 888 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,439 Speaker 6: be more impactful in there. So we've seen we've started 889 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 6: seeing flashes of him, and I wonder, now, even with 890 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 6: the new addition, how much better that can improve? How 891 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 6: much more can you get to the quarterback? So I 892 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 6: would say Clowney mainly because of the position. 893 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,800 Speaker 7: Man, I'll tell you this is the game that's dangerous 894 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,320 Speaker 7: because I'm screaming for Nate Thomas to play and he 895 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 7: goes out gives up a bunch of pressures the other 896 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 7: day at right tackle. I'm worried about that, you know. 897 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,360 Speaker 7: So you know, if if I felt really good about it, 898 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 7: I would say, yeah, put Nate Thomas in at right tackle. 899 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 7: Let's go. And maybe it's a deal where if you 900 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,239 Speaker 7: put him in there for sixty plays and not you know, 901 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,839 Speaker 7: and not just nineteen, that you might have a better 902 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 7: or hell you might give up more pressures. Who knows. 903 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,800 Speaker 7: It was just a poor game for him overall in it. 904 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,359 Speaker 7: It kind of hurt my confidence a little bit there 905 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 7: with him. But I'll say this though, I think it's 906 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 7: spanned Ford and I and you talk about schoon Maker, 907 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 7: you know, I think there's things that span Ford absolutely 908 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 7: does better than Luke Skoonmaker. I think the blocking aspect 909 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 7: of it is clearly better. Like he now catches the 910 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 7: football pretty well. And I think you could you could 911 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 7: get stuff out of him for him just coming in 912 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,839 Speaker 7: the game as a point of attack player, an occasional 913 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 7: guy here and there. I don't think I think you 914 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 7: need to hit give him more second team reps real quick. 915 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 5: On the On the topic of Nate Thomas, could it 916 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 5: have been that maybe he's been spending a lot more 917 00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,880 Speaker 5: time on the left side than the right, and then 918 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 5: throwing him in the right maybe he just wasn't as 919 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:02,800 Speaker 5: ready for that. 920 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,359 Speaker 7: And then they scream at us because they're like, well 921 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 7: what about playing guy and at right tackle? You know, 922 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 7: then you know, we forget that. We act like there 923 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,720 Speaker 7: is it's a difference. Left tackle and right tackle is different. 924 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:16,880 Speaker 2: And when we seen him at left tackle, Nate's been 925 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 2: pretty good. That's where it is. 926 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,440 Speaker 5: I want to at least give him the benefit of 927 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 5: the doubt. Abe, this was one that maybe the situation 928 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 5: where he was not as prepared to play right tackle. 929 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,840 Speaker 7: I think I think he has to be ready regardless. 930 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 7: I think he has to be ready, you know. And 931 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 7: I'm sure some scout team reps they put him in 932 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 7: at right tackle left you know, he's got to be 933 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 7: ready regardless. But like I said, there was there was 934 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 7: a time, maybe a couple of weeks ago. What I've 935 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,800 Speaker 7: just my answer would have been immediately, Nate, Tom and 936 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 7: I have I have concerns about about steel. I have 937 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 7: concerns there and but we've heard the coaches have come 938 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 7: out here recently and talked about there is a legitimate 939 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 7: competition at right tackle, so you know we might get 940 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 7: our wish on that one. 941 00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 4: Terrence has had his issues and it should be a competition. Yeah, 942 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,320 Speaker 4: I think sometimes, you know, I'll just say we include myself, 943 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 4: But we get a little too much dip on our chip. 944 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 3: With the new guy sometimes, you know, I totally. 945 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 4: Sometimes we read a new guy and go, hey man, 946 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 4: he looked good versus whoever, let's play him a lot more. 947 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 4: And you know, consistency takes a lot more than just 948 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,279 Speaker 4: looking good against whoever cared, you know what I mean? 949 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 4: Sometimes we get a little too ahead of ourselves. Terres 950 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,839 Speaker 4: may be making you sick, but Terres. 951 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:29,480 Speaker 3: Couldn't feel that way. 952 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,239 Speaker 7: Do you feel that way real quick? About corner? That 953 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 7: too much dip under chip? 954 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:34,880 Speaker 1: Or is it? 955 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,279 Speaker 7: Or you've seen about which new guy just like a 956 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,759 Speaker 7: Carson uh revel And I mean, we haven't seen, but 957 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 7: when we saw Carson play that day. The fact that 958 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,600 Speaker 7: the guy is new and we haven't seen is that 959 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 7: where we're at right now? You're just thinking or it 960 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 7: couldn't be any worse. 961 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,399 Speaker 4: I think the difference there is that I saw Nate 962 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 4: all Camp, I saw all Camp, I saw all these guys. 963 00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:57,879 Speaker 7: That's fair. 964 00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:59,840 Speaker 3: We got three coiners. I don't know what they like. 965 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,239 Speaker 4: I don't know what what Josh Butler looks like this year. 966 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,719 Speaker 4: Revel Kaitlyn played thirty something play last game, but just 967 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 4: prior to that, I had no clue. So I think 968 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 4: it's time to just kind of try those guys just 969 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:11,840 Speaker 4: to see what they have. 970 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,880 Speaker 5: Let's also be clear, I think, for at least I'll 971 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 5: speak for myself. I'm taking clues from what I'm seeing 972 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 5: on the field. It seems like the Cowboys are kind 973 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,839 Speaker 5: of searching for who those guys are because they're moving 974 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 5: around different games, they have different guys out there. It 975 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,800 Speaker 5: feels like they are like, we haven't quite found the 976 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 5: right grouping of cornerbacks that we feel like are our guys, 977 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 5: like they are the guys we're gonna rely on now. 978 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 5: As part of that, they've been these injuries, people going 979 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 5: in and out. But I do think it feels like 980 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,560 Speaker 5: there isn't a solidified group. And from that standpoint, I 981 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 5: think I look at it and say, well, who are 982 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 5: the other guys that should be a part of this conversation, because. 983 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,759 Speaker 4: I don't think they've really settled on who the guys 984 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 4: really are. I kind of blame that on flues. We're 985 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,440 Speaker 4: doing some of these first three weeks. Now we're doing 986 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 4: something different the next three weeks. Now we're trying something 987 00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 4: else this next three weeks, and it's kind of hard 988 00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 4: to get a feel for who your corner group should be. 989 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 4: We just had to we just had to talk here, like, Hey, 990 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:04,920 Speaker 4: we may get a different group of corners because we're 991 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 4: gonna play more man this week, or a different set 992 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 4: of these guys we're playing more zone versus this quarterback. 993 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 4: I don't think you should have a rotating group of 994 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 4: six corners like that. I'm gonna steal your question real quick. 995 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 4: Could you play next to the Quinn Williams next to him? 996 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's on a situation, like I will put it 997 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 5: like this, I am very much comfortable with almost any 998 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,840 Speaker 5: of the other defensive tackles being next to him on 999 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 5: specific downs based on what you're trying to get and 1000 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,879 Speaker 5: the matchups, because I might want different things, Like I think, 1001 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,160 Speaker 5: if I really want to be stout because I got 1002 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,400 Speaker 5: again a team where that's really gonna try to run 1003 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,279 Speaker 5: the ball, put him and Kenny out there together and 1004 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,879 Speaker 5: let's see what happens with that. I think they're gonna 1005 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 5: all rotate throughout the game. Sure, if I want to 1006 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 5: get more upfield, and this is a game where I 1007 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 5: really got to get some internal some pressure on the inside, 1008 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,319 Speaker 5: on the interior, then then maybe it's it's osa right, 1009 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,359 Speaker 5: and I just think it fluctuates. 1010 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 2: I just all four of them. 1011 00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 5: I like all four of your defensive tackles right now, 1012 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 5: and I'm like, mix them and match them. However you 1013 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 5: want to mix them and match them, because I think 1014 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,279 Speaker 5: you're going to be better off than when you were 1015 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 5: two weeks ago. 1016 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 4: Will this team on first down verse the Raiders first 1017 00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:10,600 Speaker 4: player of the game, which is supposed to be a 1018 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 4: running down, Will they put your money man veteran here, 1019 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,160 Speaker 4: team captain got on the bench because Clark and Quinn 1020 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:19,440 Speaker 4: are more stout versed. 1021 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,360 Speaker 2: To run, I would. I can't tell you what they 1022 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:23,279 Speaker 2: would do, but I would. 1023 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 3: I ask you what they'll do? What they would do? 1024 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,439 Speaker 4: See see what we would do is easy answers because 1025 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 4: we all think we make sense. What they would do gets. 1026 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,279 Speaker 5: And by the way, and by the way, they have 1027 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:39,000 Speaker 5: other things to consider too, sure, because because their decisions 1028 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,440 Speaker 5: reverberate in the locker room, and you have to be 1029 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 5: aware of how's decision going to play in the locker room, 1030 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:45,880 Speaker 5: how is it going to affect the people that are 1031 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,359 Speaker 5: around them on a day to day basis, And well, 1032 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 5: I don't have to deal with that. I'm just like, hey, 1033 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,719 Speaker 5: I just I'll throw this guy out there. So I 1034 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,360 Speaker 5: have a hard time thinking, oh, so it's not a starter. 1035 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,719 Speaker 5: When you get to that game, I know, can Quinn 1036 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,280 Speaker 5: William's gonna start like, there's no way he doesn't start. 1037 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:05,040 Speaker 2: Right, So that maybe that's your answer. 1038 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,880 Speaker 4: He'll quinnin Williams and Logan Wilson a dagum captain badge. 1039 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,879 Speaker 4: Because there was captains where they came from, they gonna 1040 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:11,719 Speaker 4: be captains here too. 1041 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,279 Speaker 5: All right, man, we appreciate you guys joining us. I 1042 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,840 Speaker 5: know it's been a rough few days and hopefully we 1043 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 5: were able to uh to give you guys a little 1044 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,879 Speaker 5: bit of a smile today and we'll keep moving through 1045 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 5: this week and we'll get through this week and uh 1046 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:26,120 Speaker 5: and get back on track. 1047 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 4: Also, what are your better pass rushers too? I'm just 1048 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 4: letting you know, man, I'm letting you know. We'll be 1049 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:31,200 Speaker 4: back tomorrow. 1050 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,759 Speaker 5: Until then, provide somebody Brian brought us NA were gonna 1051 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,239 Speaker 5: see I'm Derek Eilelton. 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