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Speaker 1: your questions whatever you email into Jesse at Jesse kellyshow

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Speaker 1: dot com. But we're gonna begin tonight talking about fading

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Speaker 1: the heat. Look at how young and hip I am, Chris,

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Speaker 1: what I use young hip people's words. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about the Biden family trying to fade the heat, Communist

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Speaker 1: foot soldiers doing what they do. We're gonna discuss illegal immigration.

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Speaker 1: Interesting how much it's in the news now. Dome met

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Speaker 1: with somebody privately. Not exactly a new thing for her,

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Speaker 1: but this was a different kind of a meeting. All

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Speaker 1: that and so much more is coming up tonight on

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Speaker 1: the world famous Jesse Kelly's Show. But I want to

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Speaker 1: begin here first. Fading the heat? What does that mean?

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Speaker 1: If you're my age or above I'm forty two, you

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Speaker 1: probably don't know. I certainly didn't know. Up until a

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Speaker 1: probably one of my sons, And I said, what it's

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Speaker 1: fading the heat? What does that mean? And this is

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Speaker 1: what fading the heat is. You get yourself in trouble.

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Speaker 1: You screwed up. You're just trying to make it not

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Speaker 1: quite so bad. You see, you were supposed to wake

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Speaker 1: On Sunday morning. You went golfing with your boys and

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Speaker 1: knocked out about twelve beers on the golf course. And

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Speaker 1: now you're you're walking funny and you're a little bit

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Speaker 1: messed up. And you come home and she says, what

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Speaker 1: did you not take the trash out? You are praying

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Speaker 1: that that's the only thing she ends up finding out

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Speaker 1: about how your morning went. Fading the heat. What's happening

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Speaker 1: with the Bidens right now is they are in very

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Speaker 1: very very serious trouble. They're in serious trouble politically, and

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Speaker 1: they're trying to do something. Everything we're looking at right

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Speaker 1: now is the Biden family attempting to fade the heat.

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Speaker 1: You know, let's stop with the stupid young people talk.

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Speaker 1: They're trying for a soft landing. This is not going well.

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Speaker 1: He's not popular.

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Speaker 2: Problematic new pulling numbers out this morning for President Biden,

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Speaker 2: the CNN poll finds has approval rating sinking to just

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Speaker 2: thirty nine percent. Among voters' concerns Biden's age. They're worried

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Speaker 2: about his mental and physical confidence, long with how well

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Speaker 2: he understands the concerns of future generations of Americans. Another

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Speaker 2: big issue the economy.

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Speaker 1: And that's CNN reporting that House gop zeros in on

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Speaker 1: biden impeachment inquiry, but Senate Republicans bristle Joe Biden colluded

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Speaker 1: with Hunter Biden's partners during vp term under Obama. According

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Speaker 1: to House Oversight, David Wis intends to indict Hunter Biden

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Speaker 1: by the end of the month. These are headlines from

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Speaker 1: just today, So let's discuss what we're seeing and who

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Speaker 1: we're seeing it from the Biden crime family. The Biden family,

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Speaker 1: they're in serious trouble. They're in trouble not because Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden is a criminal, though he is. They're in trouble

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Speaker 1: not because Joe Biden is unpopular, though he is. The

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Speaker 1: Biden family is in trouble because the system believes Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden has become more of a liability. What's that employment

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Speaker 1: rule number one we talk about all the time on

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Speaker 1: the show. Make sure your talent outweighs your baggage. That's

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Speaker 1: the greatest rule in life for you, me, everybody. We've

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Speaker 1: all got baggage. Just make sure your talent outweighs it.

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden's baggage is starting to weigh more than Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden's talent. He can't speak, he can't keep secrets. He

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Speaker 1: keeps screwing things up, and these criminal things are hurting

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Speaker 1: the Democrats. The fact that he can't complete sentences hurts Democrats.

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Speaker 1: It's hurting them nationally. So what's going on. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: about the David Weize part of it. He's the special counsel.

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Speaker 1: Remember he was the part of the DOJ who was

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Speaker 1: already supposedly investigating Hunter Biden, but by all accounts it

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Speaker 1: looks like he was covering for Hunter Biden. He then

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Speaker 1: any sense because we already know he was trying to

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Speaker 1: arrange a pretty much crooked deal that the judge shot down.

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Speaker 1: same time you appointed a Biden lackey. You see the

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Speaker 1: soft landing. But it's not actually the GOP who they

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Speaker 1: that was CNN, that headliner or that little news clip

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Speaker 1: I just played for you. Here we have gigantic communist

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Speaker 1: papers like The New York Times talking about Joe Biden's

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Speaker 1: popularity and fitness for office. You see, here's the reality

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Speaker 1: Right just can't ever bring itself to do something tangible

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Speaker 1: to take down a Democrat. But here's the thing. Democrats

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Speaker 1: in this country are all communists now, and communists they

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Speaker 1: have a lot of bad things about them, and this

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Speaker 1: playing no games. Communists aren't like the Republicans, Communists mean

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Speaker 1: you're in the way, well they make sure you're out

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Speaker 1: of the way. We've used the example a million times,

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Speaker 1: but it's the best example well I could possibly give.

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Speaker 1: Andrew Cuomo, Governor of New York. Andrew Cuomo's policies directly

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Speaker 1: led his policies under COVID directly led to over fifteen

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Speaker 1: thousand New Yorkers dying elderly New Yorkers, his own citizens.

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Speaker 1: Andrew Cuomo killed them. Andrew Cuomo was not removed from

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Speaker 1: single Republican, no matter how loudly they yelled, not a

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Speaker 1: thing to Andrew Cuomo. But New York ag Letitia James,

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Speaker 1: she had ambitions of her own. A different faction of

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Speaker 1: the New York Democrats, the Communists. They had plans of

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Speaker 1: their own, and unlike the eunuch Rite, they don't hesitate.

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Speaker 1: They saw an opportunity to slip a knife in between

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Speaker 1: and without a moment's hesitation, they did it. Over some

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Speaker 1: sexual harassment claims that were probably bogus. No one knows,

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Speaker 1: no one was there, but they were all Look, everyone

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Speaker 1: they were all a little flimsy, you know. It look

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Speaker 1: out for Joe Biden. It's not because the Republicans. Republicans

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Speaker 1: close to what it takes Democrats do though, again, it's

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Speaker 1: the highest compliment I can pay the communists. Communists mean

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Speaker 1: what they say. When communists come for you, they mean it,

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Speaker 1: and they keep coming until you're gone. So that's that.

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Speaker 1: Now let's talk about something else. There's all kinds of

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Speaker 1: Mayor Eric Adams.

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Speaker 3: For the first time in our city's history, we're measuring

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Speaker 3: just how much of an impact our food choices have

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Speaker 1: These people, these climate change people, man made climate change people.

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Speaker 1: The wildest thing to me is this, they can't see

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Speaker 1: themselves or hear themselves for the monsters they are, idiots

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Speaker 1: that they are, and monsters they are your food choices.

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Speaker 1: That's what's causing evil emissions that are changing the climate

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Speaker 1: on the planet. These people are actually doing a global campaign.

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Speaker 1: The elites in our society, in the Western world, they're

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Speaker 1: doing a global campaign to take food away from you.

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Speaker 1: And for some reason, there's not an international outrage calling

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Speaker 1: speaks like this. Politicians currently in power are openly campaigning

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Speaker 1: on starving people to death and there's no outcrop at all.

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Speaker 1: Wrap your mind around how crazy that is. And this

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Speaker 1: future generation, this next generation of anti communists. Man, they're

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Speaker 1: going to be hardcore because they see, they see clearly.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what this is what Look, This is

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Speaker 1: why I tell you about Chock. This is why I

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Speaker 1: These are billionaires, These are presidents, These are prime ministers.

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Speaker 1: As you just heard, these are mayors. Almost called them neighbors.

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Speaker 1: Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. We have a former spy.

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Speaker 1: His name's Mike Baker. You know I don't have guests

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Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna take phone calls next hour. But Mike

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Speaker 1: And if you think I'm not gonna ask him about

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Speaker 1: it won't be a phone call. They'll approach me covertly

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Speaker 1: in public. They'll wait till maybe I'll stop at Red

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Speaker 1: Lobster grab something delicious on the way home, and they'll

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Speaker 1: come up inside me with today's newspaper and then a note.

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Speaker 1: It's hidden in the newspaper and they'll it's just say

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Speaker 1: news What Chris. The note will slip out of the

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Speaker 1: newspaper and I'll realize what's going on. So I'll reach over,

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Speaker 1: the note. What No, it's not a fifty spy movie, Chris.

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Speaker 1: This is what's gonna happen at Red Lobster, and I'm

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Speaker 1: not that he would wrap me out it's Red Lobster,

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Speaker 1: but I would slip it down into my pocket. And

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Speaker 1: Before we get to that, let's get to this. Speaking

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Speaker 1: of New York Democrats, Letitia James, New York ag Letitia

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Speaker 1: James forces the NYPD to send fewer officers to protests

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Speaker 1: because the black lives matter to the street animals. They

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Speaker 1: But again, just remember this, it's intentional. That's why Latitia

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Speaker 1: It's gonna come to your neighborhoods. All of us are

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Speaker 4: Absolutely? And in fact, I guess you haven't advised to

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Speaker 4: And your job is to get in wherever it is,

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Speaker 4: get out nobody knows you were there. And so if

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Speaker 4: you're a fairly noticeable individual, whether that means you're tall

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Speaker 4: or you're you know, you're a super attractive woman. I

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Speaker 4: don't even know if I can say that anymore. Then

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Speaker 4: you know that you may have a harder time blending

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Speaker 4: in well some I.

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Speaker 1: Mean some poll some tall people can blend in. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: we're moving on. We're doing How behind Let's go back

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Speaker 1: to something seriously, you were talking about how behind are

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Speaker 1: we because of the gut global war on there, because

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Speaker 1: of the global war on terror? How behind are we

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Speaker 1: of countries that you can actually have the ability to

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Speaker 1: hurt us in different ways? Russia, China, the other major

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Speaker 1: nation states. Are we behind? It feels like we're behind.

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Speaker 4: Well, there are certain areas where we are playing ketchup,

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Speaker 4: and in part because let's look at hypersonic weapons development, right,

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Speaker 4: Hypersonic is sort of the next step in the way

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Speaker 4: the battle fields going to work, and so China has

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Speaker 4: been dumping a tremendous amount of resource into it, as

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Speaker 4: as Russia. But China is really the big dog you

449
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Speaker 4: all this because they have more resource and they've been

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Speaker 4: at it, and so in a sense you can argue

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Speaker 4: there are areas where we're playing catch up. But the

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Speaker 4: problem you always have with the Intel, right, if we're

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Speaker 4: just kind of focused on the Intel community and understanding

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Speaker 4: what's going on in the world, is that there are

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Speaker 4: certain collection points that are just a heavy lift all

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Speaker 4: the time. And and you won't be surprised to know

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Speaker 4: that one of them would be North Korea, right, because

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Speaker 4: it's shut off. Your target pool of potential sources is limited.

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Speaker 4: Another would be, I mean, look at look at Russia now.

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Speaker 4: Trying to understand Putin's intentions, if you know, and if

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Speaker 4: he's got any logical intentions is an increasingly heavy lift

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Speaker 4: because he's been purging those around him and he just

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Speaker 4: doesn't He's not trusting any really many people at this point.

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Speaker 4: And so what that means is your your potential target

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Speaker 4: pool of sources keeps diminishing. Iran is another heavy lift, right.

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Speaker 4: You know, China we were always concerned about, but you know,

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Speaker 4: we do it again. People are going to say, well,

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Speaker 4: of course, what else is he going to say? But

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Speaker 4: you know, I think the agency does it better than

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Speaker 4: anybody else out there. And that's a good thing, right,

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Speaker 4: because it's not a benign world. And as much as

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Speaker 4: we'd like to imagine we're all going to hold hands

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Speaker 4: and you know, and work towards you know, solving climate

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Speaker 4: change or whatever the hell we're doing. Uh, it's it's

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Speaker 4: not how it works, right. Every nation action it's own

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Speaker 4: best interests, and there are a number of them not

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Speaker 4: there that don't have our interests at heart.

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Speaker 1: Mike, do you you don't happen to have time to

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Speaker 1: stay on for one more?

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Speaker 4: Do you?

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Speaker 1: I have more spy questions I want to ask you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, of course, of course.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we are going to be right back with Mike Baker.

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Speaker 1: He's the host of the President's Daily Brief podcast. I

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Speaker 1: love this stuff. Before we get back with Mike, let's

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Speaker 1: do this really quickly. Remember this. American kids are being trafficked.

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Speaker 1: When you talk about human trafficking almost always, I know that.

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Speaker 1: My instinct is I think about this happening in other places,

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Speaker 1: or if I think about it happening here, I think

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Speaker 1: about our southern border, and it certainly does happen there.

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Speaker 1: But this is happening to American kids in droves because

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Speaker 1: of social media, and the average age of the trafficked

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Speaker 1: American child is fourteen years old. It knows no race,

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Speaker 1: no culture, no religion. This is something that's hurting American kids.

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Speaker 1: The Aservo Project is saving these children, saving them and

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Speaker 1: they're getting the monsters doing this thrown in prison where

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Speaker 1: they belong. That's what you support when you support the

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Speaker 1: A Servo Project. They're also out there educating kids, schools, churches,

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Speaker 1: wherever they're asked. The Aservoproject dot org A S S

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Speaker 1: E R VO, the A Servo Project dot org. Fourteen

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Speaker 1: bucks a month is what they ask for. That's what

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Speaker 1: keeps the mission going, The A Servo Project dot org.

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Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly Vaccian, it is the Jesse Kelly Show on

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Speaker 1: a Thursday. I want to get right back to him.

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Speaker 1: We're speaking right now with Mike Baker, the host former CIA.

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Speaker 1: He's the host of the President's Daily Brief Podcast. Okay, Mike, China.

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Speaker 1: When it comes to China, I am concerned how compromised

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Speaker 1: we are here forgetting about what our abilities are there.

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Speaker 1: I'm very concerned when I see Navy Intel guys getting busted.

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Speaker 1: I see Chinese bust after Chinese bust in this country.

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Speaker 1: These are the ones we're catching. How in field trade

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Speaker 1: do you think we are?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what you just said. They are. These are

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Speaker 4: the ones that we're catching. That's a that's a key

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Speaker 4: comment when you're talking about what essentially is counterintelligence. Right, Typically,

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Speaker 4: if you catch somebody like you know, one of our

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Speaker 4: classic cases Hanson or Edie Howard or Alter James or whatever,

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Speaker 4: people are always like, oh my god, how could that

519
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Speaker 4: have happened? And what they're missing is all the work

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Speaker 4: that goes in to catch somebody like that. Right, And

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Speaker 4: so when you're talking about trying to identify what the

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Speaker 4: Chinese Intel service is up to here, but the FBI

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Speaker 4: domestically is opening up new cases every day, right, many

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Speaker 4: of them related to Chinese espionage, theft of economic information,

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Speaker 4: theft of research and development. And they've been doing that

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Speaker 4: for decades. It's not something new, right, This is they

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Speaker 4: made a choice the Chinese regime. I'm not talking about

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Speaker 4: the population. Everybody wills orris so you can't I'm not

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Speaker 4: talking about that. I'm talking about the regime. And they

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Speaker 4: made a choice decades ago that the way to get

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Speaker 4: to the top of the food chain is to bypass

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Speaker 4: that heavy lift of research and development and all the

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Speaker 4: cost involved in time and just hoover up everything from

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Speaker 4: everyone else. Right, So their equal opportunity they go after us,

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Speaker 4: they go after our allies, they go after anyone that

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Speaker 4: they think might be able to provide information, and then

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Speaker 4: they sift through it and decide, you know, what's gonna

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Speaker 4: work for them and what's not. And they you know,

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Speaker 4: they are incredibly aggressive. So it is a it is

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Speaker 4: an ongoing problem that I think a lot of people

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Speaker 4: assume is relatively new, and it's not. One of the

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Speaker 4: first things I did in the in the agency as

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Speaker 4: a young ops officer was work a Chinese student that

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Speaker 4: was here going to school in the US who happened

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Speaker 4: to be, you know, associated with the Chinese intel apparatus.

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Speaker 4: And that was a long time ago because I'm not

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Speaker 4: passing as a as a college student anymore apparently, so

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Speaker 4: it was, you know, it's it's something that people need

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Speaker 4: to focus on, and we are. The Bureau is very good.

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Speaker 4: They're counter Intelligence group and they're they're the people that

551
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Speaker 4: focus on these issues are very good. I know they've

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Speaker 4: taken a lot of heat about being overly political, but

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Speaker 4: again I go back to that earlier comment with the agency, right, Yes,

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Speaker 4: you can get people towards the top of the food

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Speaker 4: chain in any of these organizations that you know, they

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Speaker 4: they become enamored of their contact with political office, right,

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Speaker 4: and so with the bureau though, it's the same as

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Speaker 4: with the agency. Those people that are working the streets,

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Speaker 4: that are actually doing that hard work every day, they

560
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Speaker 4: don't care. Just tell them what to do and they'll

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Speaker 4: get on with it.

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Speaker 1: Mike. Everybody like me who thinks about you know, CIA,

563
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Speaker 1: heyday Cold War era stuff. They think about areas like

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Speaker 1: the Czechoslovakia, Zech Czech Republic. Now every every spy movie

565
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Speaker 1: start took place in Prague. You know, that was just

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Speaker 1: a part of the world because of the Soviet Union.

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Speaker 1: That was just a hotbed for it. Is that Africa now, Mike,

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Speaker 1: Is this a place where the intelligence agencies in the world,

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Speaker 1: they're all already there doing different things.

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Speaker 4: It's all over, right, I Mean, you couldn't really point

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Speaker 4: to a spot and say, you know, it's just in

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Speaker 4: the Middle East or it's just in Africa. It's just

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Speaker 4: you know, the focus is in South America or Central America.

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Speaker 4: It's everywhere. And so I mean, look, we'll go back

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Speaker 4: to the Chinese. The Chinese regime has been building ground

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Speaker 4: satellite facilities in South America, right. You think they're doing

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Speaker 4: that because they want to benefit the people of South America. Right,

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Speaker 4: they talk about, you know, putting a training facilities in Cuba.

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Speaker 4: You know, they've been sweetening the deal, trying to get Honduras,

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Speaker 4: you know, over to the dark side. They've been working

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Speaker 4: and you know, the the socialist president of Hondura's Castro

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Speaker 4: has just been over there to China. They're working in

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Speaker 4: our own backyard, and half the time we ignore it

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Speaker 4: because we're not particularly good at multitasking. So we have

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Speaker 4: to be better, regardless of who's in charge at doing that,

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Speaker 4: at understanding. We've got to focus on all these various regions. Right.

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Speaker 4: We're seeing in Central and in South America sort of

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Speaker 4: that shift back to the left, you know, and we've

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Speaker 4: seen that before and it usually happens because we ignore them.

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Speaker 4: So all it's all over the map. Right. You can't

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Speaker 4: swing a dead cat these days overseas about hitting somebody's spy.

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Speaker 1: Did you ever have any cool gadgets? Oh?

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Speaker 4: Yes, And I'm glad you brought that up because that

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Speaker 4: gives me a chance to sing the praises of the

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Speaker 4: Science and Technology Group of the agency, right, And they

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Speaker 4: have created over the years, They've been responsible for incredible

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Speaker 4: technology and that's where the engineers and scientists have worked.

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Speaker 4: And whether they were talking about satellite technology, imagery, battery technology,

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Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. They were at the front.

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Speaker 1: Of all of it.

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Speaker 4: And initially they were designing things for espionage, right, miniaturizing

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Speaker 4: batteries so you could have a listening device that wouldn't

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Speaker 4: draw anybody's attention. Now those batteries are in pacemakers and defibrillators,

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Speaker 4: so they've done an incredible job. But oftentimes what would

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Speaker 4: happen is, you know, you'd be back in headquarters, they

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Speaker 4: getting geared up for something and they'd they'd say, hey,

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Speaker 4: come on down here and check this out. And they'd

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Speaker 4: show you some incredibly great piece of gadgetry and you say, fantastic,

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Speaker 4: give me one of those. They go, no, no, and

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Speaker 4: they'd put it back on the shelf, give you like

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Speaker 4: some old thing because they didn't want that new thing

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Speaker 4: to fall into anybody's hands. So we're gonna we're gonna

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Speaker 4: hold onto this. You use this thing here and anyway.

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Speaker 4: But they are they are fantastic people.

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Speaker 1: Dang it, I want to I want to Gadget Department.

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Speaker 1: Mike Baker is right. It is the president's daily brief podcast.

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Speaker 1: Go download and thank you brother. Come back soon.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Jesse, talk to you soon. Man.

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Speaker 1: Take care the science. Chris, can you get ahold of

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Speaker 1: the suits and let them know we need a science

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Speaker 1: and technology division here on the show. What do you mean?

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Speaker 1: What for? What do you mean? We have all kinds

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Speaker 1: of needs and uses for the science and technology division.

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Speaker 1: I I want a special watch. I want a special watch.

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Speaker 1: I saw I think it was in one of the

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Speaker 1: James Bond movies. He could pull you know the thing

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Speaker 1: you twist to change the time in the watch. He

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Speaker 1: could pull it out and it was a string, only

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Speaker 1: it was superheated or something, if I remember it, and

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Speaker 1: you could like like kill people with it, and I

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Speaker 1: would well a garat kind of like that, only it

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Speaker 1: cut people's heads off. Maybe it wasn't a James Bond movie.

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Speaker 1: So look, we need that here for security reasons. We

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Speaker 1: don't know if somebody's gonna break in, Chris, we need

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Speaker 1: a science and technology division. Please let the suits know,

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Speaker 1: let me know what they say, let me know how

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Speaker 1: that turns out. All right, We have a lot more

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Speaker 1: to get to before we get to the dome. Flirting

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Speaker 1: with the donors and not in the normal way either

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Speaker 1: just openly flirting with the donors. Let's get to this,

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Speaker 1: let's get to our dogs. You see, doctor Dennis Black,

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Speaker 1: he did his own sciencey stuff. Former Green Beret, I

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Speaker 1: should point out he realized dogs need nutrition, and he

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Speaker 1: realized dogs weren't getting any nutrition in dog food. Why

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Speaker 1: because dog food is dead. They don't do it because

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Speaker 1: they're bad people. They don't kill everything in dog food

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Speaker 1: because they're bad people. They do it so it lasts

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Speaker 1: longer on the shelf. But it's important for us to

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Speaker 1: understand that brown dog food we give our dogs doesn't

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Speaker 1: have any nutrition in it none. It's empty calories. It's

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Speaker 1: a meat lover's pizza without being it's delicious. So pour

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Speaker 1: some rough Greens on your dog's food. You don't have

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Speaker 1: to switch food. Just pour it on the dog's food

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Speaker 1: and watch your dog come alive. You will see a

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Speaker 1: difference in your dog and his digestion and his breath,

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Speaker 1: and his coat and his energy. Roughgreens dot com slash

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Speaker 1: Jesse it's where you get a free bag, or you

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Speaker 1: can call them. All you pay for is the shipping. Remember,

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Speaker 1: you can just call them eight three three three three.

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Speaker 1: My dog we got two hours left Next