WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Looking Ahead

0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:05.960
<v Speaker 1>The following Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

0:00:05.960 --> 0:00:16.720
<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. Are you ready

0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:20.560
<v Speaker 1>for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:24.880
<v Speaker 1>Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that.

0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:30.280
<v Speaker 1>It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:36.599
<v Speaker 1>with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:41.680
<v Speaker 1>It is Tuesday, December twenty eight, twenty twenty one, Season seventeen,

0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:45.000
<v Speaker 1>episode number eighty six. Welcome to the latest edition of

0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:47.680
<v Speaker 1>The Break, live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios. At

0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:50.440
<v Speaker 1>the start, we're getting you guys ready for Cowboys versus

0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:53.240
<v Speaker 1>Cardinals that's coming up this Sunday. It has been moved

0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:55.480
<v Speaker 1>if you didn't know, to a three twenty five kick

0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:58.600
<v Speaker 1>time at AT and T Stadium. That will be a

0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:01.080
<v Speaker 1>fun game to watch. We'll get you ready for it. Nick,

0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:04.319
<v Speaker 1>let's start off first. Give me an eighty six eighty six?

0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Eighty six? Man? How about I mean, have you ever

0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:13.440
<v Speaker 1>heard of the California quake? Yeah? Butch Johnson were eighty six,

0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:15.520
<v Speaker 1>that was back in the day. Eighty six. Why do

0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:18.039
<v Speaker 1>I think he was eighty three? Nine? Eighty six is

0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:21.360
<v Speaker 1>eighty six? He used to be. He used to he's

0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:24.479
<v Speaker 1>the six shooters, you know, touchdown all that, he's about

0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:27.199
<v Speaker 1>the third. You know, well you've seen them. The catch

0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:31.000
<v Speaker 1>he didn't catch against the Broncos and Super Bowl you

0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:34.360
<v Speaker 1>know you've seen that that highlight Um oh, he's the

0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:38.440
<v Speaker 1>guy that caught that. Yeah, I don't know why that

0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:42.120
<v Speaker 1>just bothered ute. Yeah, it's like in today's world, like

0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:47.040
<v Speaker 1>that wouldn't even be a thing that no chance, trust me.

0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:49.400
<v Speaker 1>And there's been a lot of times we do you know,

0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:52.640
<v Speaker 1>highlight videos and top ten moments and people will say,

0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:54.840
<v Speaker 1>Nick Luca this video and I'm like, nah, to take

0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:57.920
<v Speaker 1>that out. He didn't catch that, like super Bowl, like, nah,

0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:02.160
<v Speaker 1>give me something else, eighty six. Butch Johnson you got

0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:06.760
<v Speaker 1>one day, I got one. No, you know he's going, well,

0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:09.840
<v Speaker 1>I I don't, I don't. I'm right, I'm out on

0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:12.280
<v Speaker 1>this game because like when I weigh in, then I

0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:15.840
<v Speaker 1>start getting the comments people like you didn't bring this

0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:19.680
<v Speaker 1>guy up. I'm like, I don't know when Dan Campbell

0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:23.760
<v Speaker 1>Dan Campbell now head coach of the Detroit Lions, Yep,

0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:27.639
<v Speaker 1>Golden Scholtz perfect, great, that's yeah. I'm just he's having

0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:29.880
<v Speaker 1>a great I just got off a show with him

0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:31.960
<v Speaker 1>eighty six. So I have to say, Isaiah, stand back,

0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:33.960
<v Speaker 1>here you go. That's a good one. He's actually good.

0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:36.480
<v Speaker 1>More of that number. Yeah, that's actually good. Shout out Isaiah,

0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Isaiah good. All right, let's let's jump in. I do

0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:43.080
<v Speaker 1>want to talk about one player that's been injured. That

0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:46.400
<v Speaker 1>sounds like maybe there's a chance he's coming back. Tyron Smith,

0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:50.760
<v Speaker 1>what are we hearing? Swassunt sent it's for our French listeners.

0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that mean I mean seventy seven. Oh, get your

0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:58.440
<v Speaker 1>ass back on the line up. Not at all. Yeah,

0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:04.919
<v Speaker 1>it sounds like he's gonna plays seventy seven. Okay, it

0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:08.600
<v Speaker 1>makes more sense. It's just the way stadium slower. We

0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:13.840
<v Speaker 1>were so off the rails already. Sais sand set. The

0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:17.240
<v Speaker 1>set is seventeen in French and swissant is sixty six

0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:19.640
<v Speaker 1>sixty plus seventeen. Is that how they do their numbers? Like,

0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:21.959
<v Speaker 1>not all of them, but that's how they do that? Okay?

0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:25.280
<v Speaker 1>Yet anything else? No? I used to be pretty good

0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:27.160
<v Speaker 1>at French, but it's been a look a lot of

0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:29.280
<v Speaker 1>years of that. In high school, I took six years

0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:33.440
<v Speaker 1>of French. Wow, it's impressed. It sounded smart, at the time.

0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:35.080
<v Speaker 1>But like I really would just wish I never could

0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:37.640
<v Speaker 1>use well, I would like speaking Spanish makes so much

0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:39.720
<v Speaker 1>more sense, Like that is such a more useful skill

0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:42.120
<v Speaker 1>if you gotta live in Texas yet in America at

0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:45.280
<v Speaker 1>this point. Yeah, and I don't know anything about it,

0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:50.160
<v Speaker 1>but I can count to seventy seven in French. So, okay,

0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:55.200
<v Speaker 1>smiths looking he's looking like he's gonna play. I'm sorry, everybody,

0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:58.440
<v Speaker 1>he's looking like he's gonna play against Arizona. That's the

0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:00.840
<v Speaker 1>early word on the street. Well have to see. But

0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:02.720
<v Speaker 1>are you okay with that? Because I know a couple

0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:05.480
<v Speaker 1>of weeks ago you were saying, like, man, just let him.

0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Well that's untill now. I'm not really okay with it,

0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:10.560
<v Speaker 1>I guess because in my mind I'm thinking, all right,

0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:13.240
<v Speaker 1>let me look at the calendar. He plays this game,

0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:16.480
<v Speaker 1>he gets through it, but he gets a setback, and

0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:21.159
<v Speaker 1>then he misses the Eagles game, and then two weeks later,

0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:24.359
<v Speaker 1>so so I'm already thinking, yeah, you know, when's the

0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:28.799
<v Speaker 1>next one. I probably wouldn't play him. I probably wouldn't,

0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:31.480
<v Speaker 1>but he's good to go. He's good to go. Me,

0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:34.200
<v Speaker 1>you gotta have this game, you gotta you gotta win.

0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:37.440
<v Speaker 1>That's the thing for me, and unfortunately I haven't had.

0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:39.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna run the rest of these numbers today because

0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:43.440
<v Speaker 1>I am curious what like all of the contenders home

0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:49.200
<v Speaker 1>away splits are. But like this, this is sneaky important.

0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:51.080
<v Speaker 1>It's not even sneaky. Why would I say it's sneaky

0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:54.359
<v Speaker 1>Like they need these wins, they need to maximize their seating.

0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:57.640
<v Speaker 1>I looked this up this morning. They are winning their

0:04:57.680 --> 0:05:00.560
<v Speaker 1>home games by an average score of thirty eight to

0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:05.119
<v Speaker 1>twenty two, and their road the road split is twenty

0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:09.240
<v Speaker 1>three to twenty. Oh you serious? So what am I

0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:12.479
<v Speaker 1>looking at here? That's like everybody's schedule the rest of

0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:14.000
<v Speaker 1>the way. Oh no, yeah, I mean I'm not worried

0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:15.760
<v Speaker 1>about that. I just I don't I don't know how

0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:19.920
<v Speaker 1>much better everybody else's home person. I'm sure everybody. Well,

0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:22.800
<v Speaker 1>I think the Cardinals that Cardinals are not. They are

0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:25.080
<v Speaker 1>great on the road right way better on their problems

0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:29.440
<v Speaker 1>right now. But it just what they did to Washington

0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:32.680
<v Speaker 1>only emphasizes to me how important it is that this

0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:35.159
<v Speaker 1>play team plays as many games as possible at home.

0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:41.080
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, what Denver's really the only game where they

0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:43.719
<v Speaker 1>haven't played pretty damn well at home. Like I know,

0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:45.960
<v Speaker 1>they lost to the Raiders. They scored thirty three points

0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:50.440
<v Speaker 1>in that game, took it to overtime. So my point is,

0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:53.159
<v Speaker 1>if if Tyring can play, I'm trying to at least

0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:55.440
<v Speaker 1>get the number two seed. Number one seeds not really

0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:57.839
<v Speaker 1>in your control. But if you can get the two seed,

0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:00.960
<v Speaker 1>you're guaranteed to home playoff game, and that that is

0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:03.360
<v Speaker 1>all in your control. You win the final two, stay

0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:05.760
<v Speaker 1>at well, you hope that you stay at two. You

0:06:05.839 --> 0:06:08.200
<v Speaker 1>need the Rams account. It's weird with you, but it's weird.

0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:10.520
<v Speaker 1>You got. The best you can do is you gotta

0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:13.599
<v Speaker 1>keep winning, right yeah, which and then well, the Bucks

0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:16.719
<v Speaker 1>can lose. I mean it's not like they're cam. They

0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:18.640
<v Speaker 1>don't have they don't have to kind of schedule that

0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:20.520
<v Speaker 1>makes you think they're going to lose it. But they can't.

0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Nick's gonna come at us because the Lions just beat

0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:28.440
<v Speaker 1>the Cardinals, I'm saying, I mean they can though they yeah, no, absolutely,

0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:31.960
<v Speaker 1>but the Saints can. That Saints team that we just

0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:35.680
<v Speaker 1>saw last night against Miami can shut out the Bucks

0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:38.800
<v Speaker 1>at home, then yeah they can be beat They can

0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:41.559
<v Speaker 1>who they play, I don't even I guess the Jets.

0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:43.840
<v Speaker 1>They play the Jets in the Cardinals team that just

0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:46.599
<v Speaker 1>that they just beat by twenty five. Yeah, so the

0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:49.479
<v Speaker 1>Bucks don't Bucks don't get to do the whole division

0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:52.080
<v Speaker 1>stuff at the end. No, well they I mean the

0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:54.120
<v Speaker 1>last game division. They played three of their last four

0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:57.280
<v Speaker 1>against the division Panthers. I guess, I guess you can't

0:06:57.320 --> 0:07:00.240
<v Speaker 1>do everybody that way. Yeah. I think this is a

0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:02.159
<v Speaker 1>team that I look at Tampa and I'm like, they're

0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:04.599
<v Speaker 1>probably gonna keep winning. So your best shot is you

0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:06.920
<v Speaker 1>gotta keep winning, and you gotta pray the Rams keep

0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:10.480
<v Speaker 1>winning because without the Rams there, then you drop back

0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:13.360
<v Speaker 1>to three instead of two, and that means you get

0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:16.080
<v Speaker 1>a home game that first round, but that next round

0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:18.280
<v Speaker 1>you are on the road. Ask you this, though, you do,

0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:22.200
<v Speaker 1>who's gonna be the seventh scene? Okay? Right now, let

0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:23.560
<v Speaker 1>me tell you where they are right now. So you

0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:26.120
<v Speaker 1>got the top four, you got Green Bay, Dallas, Rams,

0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Tampa Bay. Then you got Arizona at five, then you

0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:32.760
<v Speaker 1>got San Francisco at six, and you got Philadelphia at seven. Okay,

0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:36.320
<v Speaker 1>and I ask again, do you want to be the two? Yeah? Yeah,

0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:38.200
<v Speaker 1>and take on the Eagles back to back like they

0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:40.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you play them, bring it on. I don't

0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:42.640
<v Speaker 1>care about. Well, here's the other thing. You beat the

0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Philadelphia Eagles in Week seventeen, there is a chance that

0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:47.680
<v Speaker 1>you knocked them out of the playoffs. I think they

0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:50.240
<v Speaker 1>have to win out to make it. Yeah, believe because

0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:52.360
<v Speaker 1>they right behind them, right right now behind them. I

0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:56.400
<v Speaker 1>think they've got New Orleans in Minnesota. I want to say,

0:07:56.520 --> 0:07:59.720
<v Speaker 1>they're both seven and eight, one game behind them, and

0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:01.880
<v Speaker 1>I think if they I think the Saints. I think

0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:04.960
<v Speaker 1>the Saints would have the tiebreak over them. But um,

0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:09.360
<v Speaker 1>I'd rather play the Eagles than the Vikings. I think

0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:12.360
<v Speaker 1>I agree with that. Yeah, No, I definitely agree with that.

0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:13.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I agree with that. I just

0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:16.120
<v Speaker 1>think division games are tricky, you know how it is

0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:18.600
<v Speaker 1>when you're playing division teams, it's just tricky. And I

0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:21.520
<v Speaker 1>recognize that iron you're saying that coming off a fifty

0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:24.120
<v Speaker 1>six to fourt team where but but it is it's

0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:26.480
<v Speaker 1>trickier when you're playing division games, just because I mean,

0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:29.720
<v Speaker 1>I think that's the Saints in the Bucks. Like division games,

0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:31.960
<v Speaker 1>division teams know you better and it's just a little

0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:35.320
<v Speaker 1>different than playing an uncommon opponent. You're right, but the

0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:38.760
<v Speaker 1>Eagles just I don't know. I don't They're not afraid

0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:42.160
<v Speaker 1>of them. I'm afraid of the team with the better quarterback.

0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:44.559
<v Speaker 1>And I don't think Jalen Hurts is that guy at

0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:47.800
<v Speaker 1>this point is better than he is. He is a

0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:49.840
<v Speaker 1>better passer, I don't know the he's a better quarterback

0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:51.640
<v Speaker 1>because what they're doing, what Philly is doing right now

0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:54.280
<v Speaker 1>running the ball, this quarterback works for that, and he

0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:56.520
<v Speaker 1>works very well for that kind of style of playing football.

0:08:57.160 --> 0:08:59.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it'll matter though, because I just I mean,

0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:04.640
<v Speaker 1>if the Cowboys win the game, then I Philly's probably out.

0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:08.080
<v Speaker 1>The Cowboys lose the game, then they're probably out. They're

0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:11.440
<v Speaker 1>probably not. Yeah, yeah, I don't think that's super yes,

0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:13.680
<v Speaker 1>So either way, it's not likely that now. I don't

0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:16.600
<v Speaker 1>know what's gonna happen with San Francisco in Philly because

0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:21.480
<v Speaker 1>they're both eight and seven. So Phil hurt too, right, yeah, yeah,

0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:23.120
<v Speaker 1>he has a well that might be good for him,

0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:26.720
<v Speaker 1>but they may actually Philly may actually jump up to

0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:29.600
<v Speaker 1>the six, which if they beat Dallas and Dallas may

0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:31.240
<v Speaker 1>drop to the three, so they still may get them.

0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:33.400
<v Speaker 1>So there's still a lot to be figured out. The

0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:35.200
<v Speaker 1>point I think that all of us are trying to

0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:38.480
<v Speaker 1>make is Dallas to secure the best seat possible needs

0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:41.160
<v Speaker 1>to win out. They need those final two games, and

0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:43.440
<v Speaker 1>then they need a little help along the way with them.

0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:47.640
<v Speaker 1>And it's it's annoying because typically at this time of year,

0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:51.120
<v Speaker 1>the results of this week can kind of set it

0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:54.000
<v Speaker 1>in stone a week ahead of time. But that doesn't

0:09:54.040 --> 0:10:00.480
<v Speaker 1>seem likely because unless and less like the Rams lose

0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:04.320
<v Speaker 1>and the Cowboys win and the Buccaneers win and the

0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:07.400
<v Speaker 1>Packers win, than maybe that would say. But I guess

0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:09.000
<v Speaker 1>the point I'm trying to make is that both of

0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:11.160
<v Speaker 1>these games, there's still gonna be something to play for

0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:15.120
<v Speaker 1>it no matter what happens. So that's it's kind of

0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:16.800
<v Speaker 1>a bummer in the sense of, like, yeah, I'd love

0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:19.760
<v Speaker 1>to rest Zeke and Tyron and Tony and all these guys,

0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:23.800
<v Speaker 1>but is it worth not having the two seed? And

0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:25.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it is. And going back to what

0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:29.680
<v Speaker 1>originally prompted this, Stealen and Seki have played well enough

0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:34.800
<v Speaker 1>that I'm I'm okay risking the chance that he aggravates

0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:37.480
<v Speaker 1>his injury, and I don't want that to happen, but

0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:39.760
<v Speaker 1>I'd rather have Tyron out there for games that can

0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:41.880
<v Speaker 1>get me a better playoffs. Okay, you make that argument

0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:44.640
<v Speaker 1>the other way. Can't you also say, well, they've played

0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:49.120
<v Speaker 1>well enough that I'd rather keep resting Tyring. Hope. I'm

0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:52.280
<v Speaker 1>still trying to win this game, still trying to win

0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:55.439
<v Speaker 1>in hoping that you know that they play well. But I'm,

0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:59.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, gonna just save Tyron for the playoffs or Yeah,

0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:02.160
<v Speaker 1>I think he's a good enough player that he can

0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:04.920
<v Speaker 1>do that, Like he can just go right into your

0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:07.720
<v Speaker 1>playoff game. Absolutely, we've seen him do it. Like he's

0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:09.360
<v Speaker 1>not one of those guys that comes back from injury

0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:11.439
<v Speaker 1>and he has needs a game or two to to

0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:13.679
<v Speaker 1>kind of knock the rust off. He tends to be

0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:16.920
<v Speaker 1>tiring because it's not just his ankle, it's just the

0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:18.800
<v Speaker 1>neck in the back of the ankle, I mean, the

0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:20.920
<v Speaker 1>elbow and all that stuff. So you're resting at all

0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:23.720
<v Speaker 1>when you rest him. So no that I don't I

0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:25.600
<v Speaker 1>don't disagree with you, Dave. You actually brought up an

0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:27.880
<v Speaker 1>interesting question I have for you guys. And this is hypothetical,

0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:30.800
<v Speaker 1>but let's assume Dallas didn't have anything to play for

0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:34.319
<v Speaker 1>in week eighteen, um, but Philly is playing to get

0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:37.000
<v Speaker 1>into the playoffs. Would you play your players just to

0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:39.600
<v Speaker 1>knock them out now, or would you rest your guys?

0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:41.800
<v Speaker 1>I would rest my guys if I had if there

0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:44.560
<v Speaker 1>was nothing at all to be gained from that game.

0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:47.200
<v Speaker 1>Other you're cemented at three, which is probably what would

0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:49.520
<v Speaker 1>be the scenario three or four. You're cemented there, if

0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:52.960
<v Speaker 1>you're there, or you're just you're sitting your guys. I

0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:55.640
<v Speaker 1>don't have to care what Philly does. I mean, it doesn't,

0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:58.040
<v Speaker 1>but if but it could be that that's your chance

0:11:58.080 --> 0:11:59.720
<v Speaker 1>to get them out and you don't have to face

0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:01.839
<v Speaker 1>him in the first round. I don't. You don't care

0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:05.679
<v Speaker 1>about how afraid of Philadelphia. They're not good. They's like no,

0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:08.240
<v Speaker 1>and I know, like famous last words. I get it.

0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:13.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm not oh my god, we gotta play because Philly

0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:15.560
<v Speaker 1>might get into the playoffs. No, they're not good. They're

0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:17.840
<v Speaker 1>not good. It's like we knocked you out of the playoffs. Cool,

0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:22.760
<v Speaker 1>I knocked back out. I mean that's serious, man, that

0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:25.960
<v Speaker 1>doesn't happen, right, I'm just saying that, no idea, no things.

0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:27.400
<v Speaker 1>All right, we're gonna take our first break when we

0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:29.480
<v Speaker 1>come back. We're gonna joined by Buckey Brooks of NFL Network.

0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:32.360
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna talk to some Arizona offense versus the Dallas defensive.

0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Day we come right back, Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio.

0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:39.320
<v Speaker 1>At ATNC, everyone new and existing customers get our best

0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:42.600
<v Speaker 1>deals on every smartphone. Why, because you deserve it. We're

0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:44.800
<v Speaker 1>turning your living room into your office and your gym.

0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:48.960
<v Speaker 1>We're teaching Grandma had a video call and teaching her again.

0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:51.800
<v Speaker 1>It's the button on your left Nanna, Okay, your other laughs.

0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:56.240
<v Speaker 1>It's not complicated. Everyone deserves something new, So ATNC is

0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:58.960
<v Speaker 1>given everyone new and existing customers are best deals with

0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:01.880
<v Speaker 1>every unlimited plan on every smartphone, even the latest ones

0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:03.599
<v Speaker 1>eighteen team may temporre. He's dated his peace of the

0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:06.400
<v Speaker 1>network's basic restrictions and acceptance may apply. Hi, I'm Clint

0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:09.800
<v Speaker 1>Tillison with man. I'm Jay Novachek, and we're both with

0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:15.000
<v Speaker 1>NAG and Turf, the official tractor provider of the Dallas Cowboys.

0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:17.400
<v Speaker 1>So if you need a tractor to bail some hay,

0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:19.760
<v Speaker 1>a'm more to cut some grass, or a gator to

0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:23.199
<v Speaker 1>get some chores done, get a John Deer at Unitedagin

0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:26.360
<v Speaker 1>Turf and then let's get to work. Hey Jay, that's

0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:29.440
<v Speaker 1>my line. Well, not today. Get to work with a

0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:32.120
<v Speaker 1>John Deere tractor package that's just right for you in

0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:36.040
<v Speaker 1>your budget. Visit unitedaginturf dot com. Before there was a draft.

0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:38.920
<v Speaker 1>You get sized up a cowboy by three simple factors.

0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:41.120
<v Speaker 1>The crease in his hat, the bend of his brim,

0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:44.760
<v Speaker 1>and his unbending attitude a man. Stetson didn't just protect

0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:47.640
<v Speaker 1>him from what life throw at him. It projected a rugged,

0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:52.000
<v Speaker 1>unstoppable spirit. Stetson hats are still American, made with pride.

0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:55.240
<v Speaker 1>Right here in Texas, there's still the unofficial crowd of

0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:58.560
<v Speaker 1>all self respecting cowboys, and Stetson is proud to be

0:13:58.640 --> 0:14:01.800
<v Speaker 1>on the field with America's team. Find a retailer nearest

0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Jewitt Stetson dot com, slash Cowboys New Doctor Peppers zero sugar.

0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:12.080
<v Speaker 1>You deserve it. I do deserve that. You deserve decadent

0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:14.920
<v Speaker 1>flavor without sugar, and a day at the beach without

0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:19.520
<v Speaker 1>sand getting everywhere, and a relaxing bath that your children

0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:22.840
<v Speaker 1>don't interrupt. I deserve all that. It's it's a visual

0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:26.800
<v Speaker 1>metaphor for Doctor Pepper, zero sugar. Everything you want, nothing

0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:29.680
<v Speaker 1>you don't, A visual metaphor on the radio. I do

0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:33.200
<v Speaker 1>deserve that, Doctor Pepper zero Sugar, the zero you deserve

0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:41.400
<v Speaker 1>is finally here. Back to the break Heads to AT

0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:44.800
<v Speaker 1>and T Stadium on Saturday, January the first to Experience

0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:47.360
<v Speaker 1>Rally Day presented by Seatgeet. Get ready to cheer on

0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:50.000
<v Speaker 1>your Cowboys. With tours of AT ANDC Stadium appearances by

0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:54.760
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys, cheerleaders, alumni, ticket giveaways, and more. Visit att

0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:58.360
<v Speaker 1>stadium dot com slash Rally Days for tickets and more information.

0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:00.560
<v Speaker 1>Welcome back. It is the second s of the break

0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Life and thats WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. We

0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:05.920
<v Speaker 1>are joined right now by Bucky Brooks of NFL Network.

0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:10.400
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna talk some Arizona offense versus Dallas defense. So

0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:12.760
<v Speaker 1>let's start first, Bucky, I want to know, from your

0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:17.160
<v Speaker 1>perspective you've seen both these players. Is Michael Parsons capable

0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:24.680
<v Speaker 1>of containing Kyler Murray? Who? I think so because Calabury

0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:27.440
<v Speaker 1>doesn't look to run all the time, like he's been

0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:30.880
<v Speaker 1>a little more hesitant and selected when it comes to running.

0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:32.880
<v Speaker 1>But I think now with this team in the middle

0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:35.160
<v Speaker 1>of a slide, I think all things are off. I

0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:38.200
<v Speaker 1>think he'll do anything. But yeah, Mica is certainly athletic.

0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:41.080
<v Speaker 1>Enough to make it uncomfortable for Cala Murray in and

0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:47.160
<v Speaker 1>around the vocket. How did the Lions beat them? Beat

0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:50.120
<v Speaker 1>them up, physically, beat them up. We can say a

0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:52.800
<v Speaker 1>lot of the Capital Lions in their record, but they

0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:55.880
<v Speaker 1>play hard. No, they play hard, their physical football team.

0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:57.680
<v Speaker 1>And what they did is they took the fight to

0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:00.000
<v Speaker 1>the Cardinals. They also caught the Cardinals at the right time.

0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:04.320
<v Speaker 1>Cardinals were kind of sleepwalking after getting beat by the Rams,

0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:06.520
<v Speaker 1>walked into the air, weren't ready to play, and they

0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:08.760
<v Speaker 1>get hit in the face. And I think what people

0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:11.480
<v Speaker 1>have seen like they are a team that typically dictated

0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:15.360
<v Speaker 1>the terms earlier in the year with their aggressiveness and physicality. Well,

0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:17.640
<v Speaker 1>the tables have turned and people are kind of utilizing

0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:20.520
<v Speaker 1>that formula against them, and they haven't responded well. And

0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:24.240
<v Speaker 1>so I think the recipe for dealing with the Cardinals

0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:26.640
<v Speaker 1>in general is you want to make it a fistfight.

0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:29.040
<v Speaker 1>You want to make it one of those physical games

0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:32.440
<v Speaker 1>and see if they have the ability to withstand it. Buck.

0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:35.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you mentioned Kyler being a little more hesitant

0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:40.160
<v Speaker 1>to run because I mean, yeah, since his injury, that

0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:42.520
<v Speaker 1>hasn't been a big thing. I think he and yeah,

0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:44.920
<v Speaker 1>he only ran for three yards in that loss to Detroit,

0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:48.080
<v Speaker 1>but the last two weeks, I mean, he had seventy

0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:51.480
<v Speaker 1>four yards on Saturday against Indianapolis. So like, and you

0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:55.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of alluded to this, do you expect them to

0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:58.480
<v Speaker 1>make more use of that because it makes them so

0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:00.800
<v Speaker 1>much more dangerous or is it not worth the risk

0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:05.480
<v Speaker 1>of him aggravating that injury. I think he did it

0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:10.880
<v Speaker 1>and he kind of popped to play lose our guy,

0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:18.639
<v Speaker 1>We lose him here you go? Yeah, sorry, you back now? Yeah,

0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:21.560
<v Speaker 1>okay nah. So like, look, he had a big run.

0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:23.600
<v Speaker 1>He had a fifty two yard run in that game,

0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:25.879
<v Speaker 1>and then he selected, but they're not using them the

0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:27.760
<v Speaker 1>same way then I really run in zone read and

0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:30.399
<v Speaker 1>some of that other stuff that they were running early

0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:32.680
<v Speaker 1>in his career. But I think, now, man, when you

0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:34.640
<v Speaker 1>lost the way that they've lost and you in jeopardy

0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:37.919
<v Speaker 1>of kind of falling down the seedings, I think you

0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:40.639
<v Speaker 1>have to unleashed Kyler and let him do whatever you

0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:43.400
<v Speaker 1>can to keep this offense going. So they are now

0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:45.800
<v Speaker 1>without DeAndre Hopkins, and I know they played some games

0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:48.000
<v Speaker 1>earlier this season without him as well. How much does

0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:50.960
<v Speaker 1>this offense change and in what ways does it change.

0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Without Hopkins, didn't have anybody on the perimeter that scares

0:17:55.840 --> 0:17:59.160
<v Speaker 1>you outside of zach Ertz, And zach Ertz only troubled

0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:00.880
<v Speaker 1>you a little bit because he can control the middle

0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:03.040
<v Speaker 1>of the field. But there's not a receiver out there

0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:05.880
<v Speaker 1>that you're worried about, no one that demands a double team,

0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:09.919
<v Speaker 1>no one that demands special attention like Trayvon Diggs traveling

0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:12.760
<v Speaker 1>in those things. The loss of DeAndre Hopkins really hurst.

0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:14.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's a different type player because he's not

0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:17.960
<v Speaker 1>a speaster, but he wins fifty fifty balls. Without that

0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:22.560
<v Speaker 1>element on the becomes very pedestrian. That's why we're seeing

0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:25.399
<v Speaker 1>them engaging these tough battles where they're not scoring the

0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:27.480
<v Speaker 1>amount of points that they were scoring early in the year,

0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:31.840
<v Speaker 1>and the running game has not been as effective and

0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:34.040
<v Speaker 1>as prevalent in their game plan as it had been

0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:36.160
<v Speaker 1>early in the year. How much does that affect their

0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:37.639
<v Speaker 1>red zone because I know in the red zone he's

0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:39.400
<v Speaker 1>another guy that can, like you said, he can catch

0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:41.080
<v Speaker 1>the fifty fifty ball. They throw it up to him

0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:42.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot. How much is that affecting their ability to

0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:46.600
<v Speaker 1>be effective in the red zone? Well, I mean he's

0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:49.720
<v Speaker 1>a huge loss because he is an outstanding red zone weapon,

0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:52.639
<v Speaker 1>does a great job catching the ball when it's contested.

0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:56.080
<v Speaker 1>Without him, now they're kind of leaning on other guys

0:18:56.280 --> 0:19:00.800
<v Speaker 1>unknown and those guys, but they don't have a dominant play. Addition,

0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:03.800
<v Speaker 1>Countle and AJ Green is not the Aj Green that

0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:09.080
<v Speaker 1>the name used to represent, like he's a solid player.

0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:14.280
<v Speaker 1>If without those weapons, you're seeing that they're having a

0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:17.800
<v Speaker 1>tough time consistently moving the ball, consistently putting the ball

0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:19.719
<v Speaker 1>in the end zone has been one of the reasons

0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:22.680
<v Speaker 1>why they struggled. This is that time of year where

0:19:22.720 --> 0:19:25.240
<v Speaker 1>we ask you about the Cowboys fourth cornerback. But I

0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:28.240
<v Speaker 1>wanted to get your thoughts on how you thought Kelvin

0:19:28.320 --> 0:19:32.359
<v Speaker 1>Joseph played in his first start and he got a

0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:36.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of snaps the other night. Yeah, he probably got

0:19:36.880 --> 0:19:38.840
<v Speaker 1>a chance to play, and I think it's a good

0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:40.680
<v Speaker 1>thing for him to get in the field. Look, man,

0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:47.480
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys have been playing so well, whom I think

0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:51.200
<v Speaker 1>you can say good things about Kelvin Joseph. Sound like

0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:53.280
<v Speaker 1>we started that way. How boys are playing so well

0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:55.959
<v Speaker 1>that you put anybody at cornerback. You put Dave at

0:19:56.000 --> 0:19:58.280
<v Speaker 1>cornerback and he played well, I don't know about that, man,

0:19:58.320 --> 0:20:00.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to see that. No against two. You

0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:05.639
<v Speaker 1>don't Christian Kirk, Christian Kirk, Christin Kirk bad idea. That's

0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:08.480
<v Speaker 1>what my question was gonna be about Christin Kirk. Well,

0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:13.800
<v Speaker 1>between Kirk and um More, Rondell More both. But it's

0:20:13.840 --> 0:20:16.960
<v Speaker 1>interesting from what I understand. I mean, and this makes sense,

0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:19.800
<v Speaker 1>but them not having Hopkins is forcing them to play

0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:22.280
<v Speaker 1>those guys out of position, like Kirk has been a

0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:25.280
<v Speaker 1>great slot receiver for most of the season. Rondel Moore

0:20:25.440 --> 0:20:28.960
<v Speaker 1>is I mean, he's just get him the ball however

0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:32.080
<v Speaker 1>you can. But those I'm not gonna say that about

0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:34.399
<v Speaker 1>Christian Kirk doesn't scare anybody because I mean, if you

0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:37.280
<v Speaker 1>if you're an Arkansas fan and you've watched him and him,

0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:40.920
<v Speaker 1>um my god, he's he's scored about and by the way,

0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:43.280
<v Speaker 1>and last year, he's doing it this year too, Like

0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:46.600
<v Speaker 1>he's playing pretty well this year eighty on the Cowboys,

0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:48.720
<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, yeah, he's just not Hopkins, but he's a

0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:51.359
<v Speaker 1>he's a very formidable opponent. Not to take credit away

0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:54.119
<v Speaker 1>from Christian Kirk, but the Cowboys just decided not to

0:20:54.200 --> 0:20:56.840
<v Speaker 1>cover him on that play. But he's having He is

0:20:56.840 --> 0:20:58.960
<v Speaker 1>having the best season of his pro career. He's got

0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:03.120
<v Speaker 1>sixty nine targets, nice for eight hundred and sixty yards

0:21:03.119 --> 0:21:05.240
<v Speaker 1>and five touchdowns. I mean, he's having a nice year.

0:21:05.359 --> 0:21:09.879
<v Speaker 1>We got Bucky on the phone, yep, finish your we

0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:11.800
<v Speaker 1>ask your question. Yeah, I think I was asking me

0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:13.879
<v Speaker 1>about Kelvin Joseph and what your thoughts are in his

0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:16.800
<v Speaker 1>first game and he played a lot of snaps. No.

0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:19.760
<v Speaker 1>I thought like you did a solid job considering he

0:21:19.800 --> 0:21:22.760
<v Speaker 1>hadn't played much at all this year. And I understand

0:21:22.800 --> 0:21:24.760
<v Speaker 1>why the Cowboys hadn't played him because they were playing

0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:27.280
<v Speaker 1>so well on defense. But see the young guy go

0:21:27.359 --> 0:21:30.280
<v Speaker 1>out there like he's having and competed. It wasn't always pretty,

0:21:30.320 --> 0:21:32.480
<v Speaker 1>but I think he certainly can get out there. But

0:21:32.520 --> 0:21:34.800
<v Speaker 1>it's a lot easier to play DV where you got

0:21:34.800 --> 0:21:36.760
<v Speaker 1>to pass for us doing what they're doing. I mean,

0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:38.440
<v Speaker 1>they've asked a lot of flaws because you don't have

0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:40.439
<v Speaker 1>a lot of time to really go at people. But

0:21:40.480 --> 0:21:42.720
<v Speaker 1>I think for its first opportunity on the show, I

0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:46.160
<v Speaker 1>think it was passing Buck. We were just talking about

0:21:46.160 --> 0:21:49.399
<v Speaker 1>this while we were waiting to get you back. Christian

0:21:49.480 --> 0:21:52.760
<v Speaker 1>Kirk is having a really nice year for them. I

0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:55.760
<v Speaker 1>assume most of that's been in the slot. So what

0:21:56.000 --> 0:21:58.280
<v Speaker 1>is the Hopkins injury done for him? I mean, is

0:21:58.280 --> 0:22:00.760
<v Speaker 1>he playing out a position right now? Or how might

0:22:00.920 --> 0:22:04.520
<v Speaker 1>the Cardinals try to get him going in this game? Ah,

0:22:04.640 --> 0:22:07.240
<v Speaker 1>this is more balls than going to in his direction.

0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:09.600
<v Speaker 1>Like you remove a guy who probably gets sentence all

0:22:09.640 --> 0:22:12.159
<v Speaker 1>targets the game and DeAndre Hopkins, the ball has to

0:22:12.160 --> 0:22:15.120
<v Speaker 1>go somewhere else. If Kirk has benefited from that, He's

0:22:15.119 --> 0:22:18.240
<v Speaker 1>a good player, a nice number three receiver. I wouldn't

0:22:18.280 --> 0:22:21.440
<v Speaker 1>call him like a compliment or a solid number two,

0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:24.560
<v Speaker 1>but he's effective him if you don't keep your eyes

0:22:24.600 --> 0:22:26.760
<v Speaker 1>on you don't pay attention to what he's doing and

0:22:26.760 --> 0:22:28.679
<v Speaker 1>where he's at. Yeah, he can. He can rack up

0:22:28.720 --> 0:22:31.600
<v Speaker 1>a hundred yard game. But the thing is he's not

0:22:31.760 --> 0:22:35.240
<v Speaker 1>necessarily what I would call an impact players, just steady

0:22:35.320 --> 0:22:39.119
<v Speaker 1>drift production. But it's not big plays, splash plays the

0:22:39.280 --> 0:22:41.920
<v Speaker 1>kind that makes you becomes coordinated to say, okay, you

0:22:42.000 --> 0:22:45.159
<v Speaker 1>need to turn off the post. All right, Bucky Man,

0:22:45.200 --> 0:22:46.760
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you join us. Who have you back? Tomorrow

0:22:46.800 --> 0:22:48.879
<v Speaker 1>we'll talk to some of this Arizona defense versus the

0:22:48.920 --> 0:22:51.400
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys office. We're gonna take our final break. We'll come back.

0:22:51.400 --> 0:22:54.320
<v Speaker 1>We'll have some more questions for these guys about this matchup.

0:22:54.400 --> 0:22:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Well that when we come right back. This is Dallas

0:22:55.920 --> 0:22:58.679
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys dot com Radio. I want to use what the

0:22:58.680 --> 0:23:01.960
<v Speaker 1>pros use. How about the official men's skincare brand of

0:23:02.040 --> 0:23:05.120
<v Speaker 1>the Dallas Cowboys, Jack Black. Right now, you can get

0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:08.280
<v Speaker 1>to Jack Black Starter, a curated collection of Cowboys locker

0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:11.240
<v Speaker 1>room favorites, for just ten bucks with free shipping. The

0:23:11.320 --> 0:23:14.560
<v Speaker 1>starter includes four Jack Clack skincare favorites plus a full

0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:17.440
<v Speaker 1>sized and tense therapy lip bomb. Go to get Jack

0:23:17.480 --> 0:23:20.280
<v Speaker 1>Black dot com slash Cowboys and use the code word

0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:24.240
<v Speaker 1>team JB. That's get Jack Black dot com slash Cowboys

0:23:24.359 --> 0:23:28.280
<v Speaker 1>The Jack Black Starter ten bucks free shipping. At ATNC,

0:23:28.680 --> 0:23:31.439
<v Speaker 1>everyone new and existing customers get our best deals on

0:23:31.520 --> 0:23:34.800
<v Speaker 1>every smartphone. Why because you deserve it for turning your

0:23:34.800 --> 0:23:38.200
<v Speaker 1>living room into your office and your gym. We're teaching

0:23:38.240 --> 0:23:41.120
<v Speaker 1>Grandma had a video call and teaching her again. It's

0:23:41.119 --> 0:23:43.560
<v Speaker 1>the button on your left Banna, okay, your other laughs.

0:23:44.600 --> 0:23:48.040
<v Speaker 1>It's not complicated. Everyone deserves something new, so ATNC has

0:23:48.040 --> 0:23:50.760
<v Speaker 1>given everyone new and existing customers are best deals with

0:23:50.800 --> 0:23:53.680
<v Speaker 1>every unlimited plan on every smartphone, even the latest ones.

0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:55.680
<v Speaker 1>A ten team may temporarily slidated spects at the network.

0:23:55.680 --> 0:23:58.720
<v Speaker 1>Specic restrictions and exceptions may apply. Hi, I'm Clint Tillison

0:23:58.760 --> 0:24:03.400
<v Speaker 1>with man. I'm Jay nova Check and we're both with Unturf,

0:24:03.760 --> 0:24:07.440
<v Speaker 1>the official tractor provider of the Dallas Cowboys. So if

0:24:07.520 --> 0:24:09.760
<v Speaker 1>you need a tractor to bail some hay, a'm more

0:24:09.840 --> 0:24:11.879
<v Speaker 1>to cut some grass, or a gator to get some

0:24:12.080 --> 0:24:15.560
<v Speaker 1>chores done, get a John Deer at unantagin Turf and

0:24:15.920 --> 0:24:18.640
<v Speaker 1>then let's get to work. Hey Jay, that's my line,

0:24:19.000 --> 0:24:21.760
<v Speaker 1>Well not today. Get to work with a John Deere

0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:24.560
<v Speaker 1>tractor package that's just right for you in your budget.

0:24:24.680 --> 0:24:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Visit unantaginturf dot com. Before there was a draft, you

0:24:28.119 --> 0:24:31.080
<v Speaker 1>could size up a cowboy by three simple factors. The

0:24:31.200 --> 0:24:33.240
<v Speaker 1>crease in his hat, the bend of his brim, and

0:24:33.359 --> 0:24:36.919
<v Speaker 1>his unbending attitude. A man. Stetson didn't just protect him

0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:39.560
<v Speaker 1>from what life threw at him, It projected a rugged,

0:24:39.800 --> 0:24:43.919
<v Speaker 1>unstoppable spirit. Stetson hats are still American made with pride.

0:24:44.040 --> 0:24:47.159
<v Speaker 1>Right here in Texas. There's still the unofficial crowd of

0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:50.480
<v Speaker 1>all self respecting cowboys and stetson is proud to be

0:24:50.600 --> 0:24:53.760
<v Speaker 1>on the field with America's team. Find a retailer nearest

0:24:53.800 --> 0:24:58.399
<v Speaker 1>to you at Stetson dot com. Slash Cowboys back to

0:24:58.560 --> 0:25:03.240
<v Speaker 1>the Break. Dak Prescott is the nominee for the Walter

0:25:03.359 --> 0:25:07.040
<v Speaker 1>Payton NFL Man of the Year Award, presented by Nationwide

0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:10.879
<v Speaker 1>Recognize NFL Players for outstanding community service. To go to

0:25:11.000 --> 0:25:15.359
<v Speaker 1>his website Faith Fight Finished Foundation dot com to vote

0:25:15.400 --> 0:25:17.680
<v Speaker 1>for him on Twitter. Figure out how to do that

0:25:18.359 --> 0:25:21.320
<v Speaker 1>by January seventeenth. Vote for Dak. He needs your votes.

0:25:21.640 --> 0:25:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Welcome Backs. Final segment of the BRAAKELFT nes WBC Mortgage

0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Studios at the sto do it for the Pro Bowl.

0:25:27.760 --> 0:25:30.840
<v Speaker 1>But it's okay. Vote didn't vote for him for the

0:25:30.880 --> 0:25:34.240
<v Speaker 1>Pro Bowl? Why didn't you vote on? No, I'm saying

0:25:34.840 --> 0:25:36.840
<v Speaker 1>the fans, Well, I thought you didn't vote for him.

0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:38.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't vote for the Pro Bowl. You don't get

0:25:38.800 --> 0:25:41.520
<v Speaker 1>a ballot. All right, we all get a ballot. That's

0:25:41.600 --> 0:25:43.320
<v Speaker 1>my point. But I did not do that. No, I

0:25:43.320 --> 0:25:46.960
<v Speaker 1>sided not to vote for him. No, okay, he didn't

0:25:47.000 --> 0:25:49.480
<v Speaker 1>play well when it was time to vote. Vote. That's

0:25:49.560 --> 0:25:51.679
<v Speaker 1>that's what happened with him and Zeke and a lot

0:25:51.760 --> 0:25:54.879
<v Speaker 1>of guys they when it was time to ask the ballot.

0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:57.240
<v Speaker 1>I think I've said this before, like if if the

0:25:57.320 --> 0:26:00.840
<v Speaker 1>president's gonna, you know, candidate's gonna say some really stupid things,

0:26:00.880 --> 0:26:05.040
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't do it on November the first. You know. Yeah,

0:26:05.400 --> 0:26:07.920
<v Speaker 1>people about to go to the stuff the ballot don't

0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:10.280
<v Speaker 1>suck in November, you know, And that's kind of what happened.

0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:13.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, unfortunately Dak and Zeke and those guys picked

0:26:13.200 --> 0:26:16.680
<v Speaker 1>a bad month. The slack off boy Schultz had had

0:26:16.720 --> 0:26:19.080
<v Speaker 1>a shot because I think CD I think we talked

0:26:19.080 --> 0:26:20.760
<v Speaker 1>about it in late September. We were like, man, they

0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:23.560
<v Speaker 1>got twelve people in the Pro Bowl. Everybody's gonna make

0:26:23.600 --> 0:26:26.240
<v Speaker 1>the Pro Bowl. And then November came and I think

0:26:26.320 --> 0:26:29.960
<v Speaker 1>there's I think there's fifteen guys on the list, like

0:26:30.160 --> 0:26:34.880
<v Speaker 1>alternates and guys. But you know, now the alternates run

0:26:35.280 --> 0:26:37.960
<v Speaker 1>pretty deep. Yeah they they It's not just first guy.

0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:42.000
<v Speaker 1>They have like second, third alternative. Yeah yeah, I still think.

0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:44.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's at least two or three more guys

0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:47.840
<v Speaker 1>that I think have a chance to get on the roster. Yeah. Yeah.

0:26:48.200 --> 0:26:50.840
<v Speaker 1>Nick would not be a very good campaign manager, Woody.

0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:53.840
<v Speaker 1>I think that's patience isn't good enough. For him to

0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:58.720
<v Speaker 1>be a campaign Okay, he would absolutely lose it. I

0:26:58.760 --> 0:27:01.040
<v Speaker 1>thought that was good advice. Don't sucking crunch time. No,

0:27:01.200 --> 0:27:04.639
<v Speaker 1>that's fair, that's fair, cross life, that's fair. I'm just

0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:07.639
<v Speaker 1>saying Nick as a campaign manager, that's not a good idea.

0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:09.600
<v Speaker 1>You got to be very even, I think to be

0:27:09.640 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 1>a good campaign manager. That's not Nick. I'm not even keeled. No,

0:27:12.720 --> 0:27:15.119
<v Speaker 1>you're like, man, you suck it. That's how you didn't win.

0:27:16.119 --> 0:27:18.119
<v Speaker 1>And not only that, but like Nick would lose it

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:20.600
<v Speaker 1>with voters. He would lose it like that, Yeah, you would.

0:27:20.680 --> 0:27:22.480
<v Speaker 1>You would have some moments because you can't, you know,

0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:25.000
<v Speaker 1>ideas when somebody really gets on your nerves, like you

0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:26.960
<v Speaker 1>can see it in your eyes. It's like, don't do it,

0:27:27.040 --> 0:27:29.000
<v Speaker 1>don't do it. So he did his face, right, he

0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:32.399
<v Speaker 1>did his face. He just can't stop himself, all right,

0:27:32.520 --> 0:27:38.360
<v Speaker 1>final segment, shop myself, trust me, I stopped myself. Oh, terrifying, right,

0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:40.840
<v Speaker 1>it really is. Um, Okay, So here's I want to

0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:42.840
<v Speaker 1>talk about. I want to talk about these coordinators. Yesterday,

0:27:43.320 --> 0:27:46.280
<v Speaker 1>Dan Quinn Callamore both talked to the media. Um, there's

0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:48.720
<v Speaker 1>been some talk around the NFL because the rules have

0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:52.360
<v Speaker 1>changed with regards to UH coaches that are that will

0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:54.919
<v Speaker 1>get opportunities to be able to interview for head coaching jobs,

0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:57.160
<v Speaker 1>being able to do that over the last two weeks

0:27:57.200 --> 0:28:00.520
<v Speaker 1>of the season actually starting now, um and you guys

0:28:00.600 --> 0:28:03.360
<v Speaker 1>in the media asked them, asked dan Quinn specific dan

0:28:03.440 --> 0:28:06.320
<v Speaker 1>Quinn specifically about this in Kellen Moore. What they have

0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:10.200
<v Speaker 1>to say about the potential about potential head coaching opportunities

0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:12.880
<v Speaker 1>that maybe out there for them, probably what you would expect,

0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:16.120
<v Speaker 1>just that they're focused on what they're focused on right now.

0:28:16.280 --> 0:28:19.280
<v Speaker 1>I thought they were both pretty honest about like, if

0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:21.840
<v Speaker 1>the right situation comes along, that would be awesome, Like

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:25.919
<v Speaker 1>I'd be honored by the opportunity. But dan Quinn had

0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:28.520
<v Speaker 1>this whole it was great. He was like, you know,

0:28:28.560 --> 0:28:31.080
<v Speaker 1>I didn't take this job thinking about the job I

0:28:31.160 --> 0:28:33.399
<v Speaker 1>was going to have next, Like I'm just having a

0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:36.320
<v Speaker 1>blast here working with these guys were doing great stuff.

0:28:36.400 --> 0:28:40.400
<v Speaker 1>And Kellen Moore, I mean, Kellen's been getting asked about

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:43.400
<v Speaker 1>this all year because like how hot they started and

0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:46.040
<v Speaker 1>then they played Philly, who he interviewed with last year,

0:28:46.080 --> 0:28:49.200
<v Speaker 1>so there's a connection there. A couple of college jobs

0:28:49.240 --> 0:28:52.320
<v Speaker 1>have come open, which Kellen Moore was never going to

0:28:52.400 --> 0:28:54.520
<v Speaker 1>coach TCU. I don't know why that was a thing,

0:28:54.720 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 1>but so he's been he's been answering that all year,

0:28:58.120 --> 0:28:59.840
<v Speaker 1>and so he said the same thing. He's like, that

0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:01.760
<v Speaker 1>would be awesome when the time is right, but we're

0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:03.600
<v Speaker 1>focused on what we got to do here. I think

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:07.640
<v Speaker 1>it's interesting because the rules change starting today, teams with

0:29:07.800 --> 0:29:11.560
<v Speaker 1>head coaching vacancies can request to interview assistance, and I

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:14.480
<v Speaker 1>think that's great. Dan Quinn had a great he talked

0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:17.000
<v Speaker 1>about that too, of just like that's awesome for coaches

0:29:17.080 --> 0:29:19.120
<v Speaker 1>to kind of be able to get a jump start

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:21.640
<v Speaker 1>on that. And you're not just wait until because you

0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:24.760
<v Speaker 1>know how this goes, where your focus, focus, focus, focused,

0:29:24.760 --> 0:29:26.320
<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden, the season's over and

0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:28.440
<v Speaker 1>it's almost like the rug got pulled out from under you.

0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:33.080
<v Speaker 1>But there's such an unprecedented number of teams that are

0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:36.880
<v Speaker 1>still in the playoff chase. There's no openings right now,

0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:42.320
<v Speaker 1>like Jacksonville and Vegas are the only openings in the

0:29:42.440 --> 0:29:45.320
<v Speaker 1>league right now, so there aren't that many teams that

0:29:45.440 --> 0:29:48.200
<v Speaker 1>would even be able to ask to interview them. But

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 1>I would imagine that'll change in the next maybe, if

0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:53.440
<v Speaker 1>not in the next week, then then in the next

0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:55.360
<v Speaker 1>two weeks for sure, like by the time the playoffs

0:29:55.400 --> 0:29:57.280
<v Speaker 1>get here, it'll be a different story. And it's very

0:29:57.320 --> 0:29:59.880
<v Speaker 1>interesting because one of the things I've heard just talk

0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:03.280
<v Speaker 1>different people around football about those interviews. You know, I

0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:05.600
<v Speaker 1>think all of us, as regular people, here an interview

0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:07.160
<v Speaker 1>and you think, okay, just be prepared to go and

0:30:07.200 --> 0:30:10.920
<v Speaker 1>answer some questions. And this is a different kind of thing. Yeah,

0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:13.600
<v Speaker 1>like you're gonna be asked questions about so, what how

0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:16.680
<v Speaker 1>would you handle training camp, how would you schedule this,

0:30:16.920 --> 0:30:18.920
<v Speaker 1>how would you set Like there are some really really

0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:22.000
<v Speaker 1>in depth plans that these guys have to be prepared

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:25.520
<v Speaker 1>to talk about with these teams if they're asked to interview.

0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:27.520
<v Speaker 1>And it helps for dan Quinn because he has the

0:30:27.560 --> 0:30:29.360
<v Speaker 1>experience of being a head coach, so there's probably a

0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:31.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of that that he can lean on. For somebody

0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 1>like Kellen Moore, I would assume putting together those kinds

0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:38.040
<v Speaker 1>of plans requires a bit of preparation and getting ready

0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:39.360
<v Speaker 1>for that to be able to go into that that

0:30:39.440 --> 0:30:41.520
<v Speaker 1>interview and really be prepared to talk about it. You're right,

0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:46.120
<v Speaker 1>I think Kellen Moore might have an easier road than

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:49.440
<v Speaker 1>dan Quinn when it comes to that interview process because

0:30:49.480 --> 0:30:52.480
<v Speaker 1>you're saying, oh, well, you've done it. But dan Quinn

0:30:52.560 --> 0:30:54.720
<v Speaker 1>can't just say that all the time. He can't just

0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:58.440
<v Speaker 1>say I did this, I did this, I did this. Well, yeah,

0:30:58.480 --> 0:31:00.400
<v Speaker 1>you got fired in the middle of the year. He

0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 1>also took a seam to a Super Bowl. I understand,

0:31:02.520 --> 0:31:04.280
<v Speaker 1>I understand, and then if we really want to go there,

0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:06.000
<v Speaker 1>we can go there. Yeah, but no, no, But but

0:31:06.120 --> 0:31:07.760
<v Speaker 1>taking your team in Super Bowl, how many coaches have

0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:10.080
<v Speaker 1>done I understand, But but I'm saying, but I'm saying,

0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:14.560
<v Speaker 1>and dan Quinn is is great at figuring it out,

0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:16.840
<v Speaker 1>like he's figuring out this defense. So I'm just saying,

0:31:17.200 --> 0:31:19.440
<v Speaker 1>but the coaches that have done it before, especially him,

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:22.240
<v Speaker 1>he's got to have and I think he will. He's

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 1>got to have different answers than just leaning on this

0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:27.720
<v Speaker 1>is what I did in Atlanta. He's gonna say I've

0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:29.680
<v Speaker 1>done that. And McCarthy is a good example of that

0:31:29.760 --> 0:31:32.000
<v Speaker 1>because McCarthy was like, he's done it all in Green Bay,

0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:34.440
<v Speaker 1>but he got fired and he was a good example

0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:37.160
<v Speaker 1>of kind of showing and adapting to what has changed.

0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:40.640
<v Speaker 1>Use your your history when it's there. Also, know that

0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:43.280
<v Speaker 1>the NFL and things have changed and kind of learned

0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:45.200
<v Speaker 1>how to adapt. Yes, I agree with that. I think

0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:47.440
<v Speaker 1>the thing is it still makes it easier because he

0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:50.160
<v Speaker 1>knows ven he has a platform for it, so he knows. Yeah,

0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:51.600
<v Speaker 1>I know, I got to have a plan for training

0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:53.480
<v Speaker 1>gamp I know, I got to have a plan for OTAs.

0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:55.000
<v Speaker 1>I know, I have to have a plan for this

0:31:55.160 --> 0:31:57.959
<v Speaker 1>contingency and that contingency and that contingency. My plan might

0:31:58.000 --> 0:31:59.760
<v Speaker 1>have changed a bit, I may have altered something because

0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:02.000
<v Speaker 1>I've learned some things in the years since I've been

0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:05.320
<v Speaker 1>a head coach. But it does give him a basis, right,

0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:06.960
<v Speaker 1>It gives him a basis to kind of know what

0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:09.200
<v Speaker 1>he's doing to be able to answer those questions. I

0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:11.760
<v Speaker 1>think that makes a lot easier for for him than

0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:13.400
<v Speaker 1>for Kellen. But here's my question for you guys, and

0:32:13.400 --> 0:32:14.800
<v Speaker 1>I want to take this one at a time, for

0:32:14.920 --> 0:32:16.920
<v Speaker 1>each one of these guys. Tell me what do you

0:32:17.000 --> 0:32:19.960
<v Speaker 1>think is the best characteristic that would make each of

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:23.080
<v Speaker 1>these guys a good head coaching candidate. Let's start first

0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:26.800
<v Speaker 1>with Dan Quinn. Oh wow, I mean just from and

0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:28.920
<v Speaker 1>from your experiences with them this year, which is a

0:32:29.000 --> 0:32:32.680
<v Speaker 1>shame because my just like everything else the last two years,

0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:35.880
<v Speaker 1>like the amount of I'm very limited in how much

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:39.120
<v Speaker 1>I get to deal with dan Quinn all but all

0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:41.760
<v Speaker 1>those interactions have been fantastic. He's great with the media.

0:32:42.360 --> 0:32:46.360
<v Speaker 1>He's a very approachable guy. I think the thing I

0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:48.440
<v Speaker 1>like about dan Quinn, I mean, regardless of how you

0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:50.560
<v Speaker 1>feel about how it went in Atlanta, you can't deny

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:53.560
<v Speaker 1>that he's been there before, Like he's done it. He's

0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:56.640
<v Speaker 1>got a lot of experience with that. But really what

0:32:56.800 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 1>I like about him is probably the adaptive in the approachability,

0:33:01.600 --> 0:33:04.440
<v Speaker 1>like the way like he's just adapted this defense and

0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 1>his weekly game plan to suit his player's strengths, and

0:33:08.280 --> 0:33:10.800
<v Speaker 1>like to a man, they all adore him, and so

0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:15.480
<v Speaker 1>knowing that he can, I would guess very easily win

0:33:15.560 --> 0:33:18.920
<v Speaker 1>over the locker room. And then we'll also Taylor whatever

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:21.120
<v Speaker 1>he's doing to fit what he has the way that

0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:24.240
<v Speaker 1>he has here. Probably that Yeah, I think I think

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:27.800
<v Speaker 1>as a coach, you've got to learn you got to

0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:30.400
<v Speaker 1>find the balance of like this is what I do,

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:33.120
<v Speaker 1>and I do this well, and this is what's worked

0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:34.880
<v Speaker 1>for me in the past, and this is my style

0:33:34.960 --> 0:33:37.280
<v Speaker 1>and the style of players that I want. But also,

0:33:37.400 --> 0:33:39.720
<v Speaker 1>like Dave said, you got to also, you know, you

0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:41.320
<v Speaker 1>don't always get who you want. You know, you got

0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:44.360
<v Speaker 1>to deal with who's there. And I'll say this in

0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:48.640
<v Speaker 1>a bad way, but it's like he doesn't He's not

0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:50.640
<v Speaker 1>going to go to the combine and pick out a

0:33:50.680 --> 0:33:53.200
<v Speaker 1>guy like Jordan Lewis and say put him on my team.

0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:55.600
<v Speaker 1>He comes here, Jordan Lewis is on the team, and

0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:59.880
<v Speaker 1>he's played fairly well up and down since he's gotten here.

0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:02.120
<v Speaker 1>He comes here and he says, all right, this guy's

0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:03.840
<v Speaker 1>under contract. He's gonna be in the mix. He's a

0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:06.600
<v Speaker 1>pretty good cover guy, and he's made Jordan Lewis into

0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:09.799
<v Speaker 1>a really, really good player. And he said, Jordan's had

0:34:09.840 --> 0:34:12.600
<v Speaker 1>a great year. And I think it's a good example

0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:16.239
<v Speaker 1>of this isn't always my preference, but like I'm gonna

0:34:16.320 --> 0:34:18.560
<v Speaker 1>take what I take, you know. Not He also wants

0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:21.120
<v Speaker 1>jay Ron Curse because he thinks he has a vision

0:34:21.200 --> 0:34:24.520
<v Speaker 1>for him. But I think it's that mixture of this

0:34:24.719 --> 0:34:27.320
<v Speaker 1>is the guys I want, but I'm also able to

0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:30.520
<v Speaker 1>adapt and figure out other things as well. And and

0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:33.600
<v Speaker 1>like like Dave also said, the players love him. Hey,

0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:36.080
<v Speaker 1>he treats him like a man. You know, he's the

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:39.000
<v Speaker 1>smoothest cusser I've ever seen too. I mean, he will

0:34:39.040 --> 0:34:41.799
<v Speaker 1>just he will just throw in a cussboard and you're

0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:44.800
<v Speaker 1>like what he say that? Like, yeah he did, but

0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:47.719
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, okay, see that, and that's I

0:34:47.920 --> 0:34:50.799
<v Speaker 1>love that in a weird way. I have that too.

0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:54.200
<v Speaker 1>It just encapsulates what I like about dan Quinn is

0:34:54.280 --> 0:34:58.319
<v Speaker 1>like I don't think, like we talked for so long

0:34:58.400 --> 0:35:00.640
<v Speaker 1>about how like, well, the Jason Garrett you get at

0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:02.640
<v Speaker 1>the podium is so much different than the guy that

0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:04.920
<v Speaker 1>the players see or really think that's the case with

0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:06.719
<v Speaker 1>dan Quinn. Like he just gets up there and he's

0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:09.880
<v Speaker 1>like yeah, we like, you know, we really fed that up,

0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:11.880
<v Speaker 1>and just what like he's not even approaching it like

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:14.279
<v Speaker 1>I am at the podium, I am doing my coach thing.

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:17.279
<v Speaker 1>He's just like, yeah, I'm Dan and this is what

0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:19.840
<v Speaker 1>I think about what happened? Were doing guys? And I

0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:21.920
<v Speaker 1>think that like the players, well he just lost in

0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:25.040
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs, Yeah, how are you doing? Not doing great? Exactly.

0:35:25.160 --> 0:35:27.279
<v Speaker 1>I never understood how he would open up a press

0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:29.680
<v Speaker 1>conference after a lost, tough loss. You just lost in

0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:31.680
<v Speaker 1>overtime because you guy dropped the ball or whatever, and

0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:35.680
<v Speaker 1>he's just like, I mean, how are we doing guys?

0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:38.440
<v Speaker 1>He believed in consistent. He did there's like there's a

0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 1>place for that, but he believed in consistent. I wasn't

0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:45.200
<v Speaker 1>trying to turn this into a Jason Garrett slander session.

0:35:45.360 --> 0:35:49.520
<v Speaker 1>I just I think dan Quinn seems like he's just

0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:53.520
<v Speaker 1>himself and players respond to that probably more than anything

0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:56.239
<v Speaker 1>of just like, I just don't get the feeling that

0:35:56.320 --> 0:35:58.640
<v Speaker 1>there's like a lot of politics with dan Quinn and

0:35:58.800 --> 0:36:02.520
<v Speaker 1>that and and players appreciate that. Well that's the easy one. Yeah.

0:36:02.560 --> 0:36:05.000
<v Speaker 1>The greatest asset of Kellen Moore as a potential head

0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:08.920
<v Speaker 1>coaching candidate. I think he is incredibly smart. I think

0:36:09.080 --> 0:36:13.759
<v Speaker 1>he has a very great grasp on where this league

0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:17.759
<v Speaker 1>is going in terms of trends and the way you

0:36:17.880 --> 0:36:23.160
<v Speaker 1>call and establish an offense. And he's I know, like

0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:26.000
<v Speaker 1>we kind of joke that he's kind of nerdy or whatever,

0:36:26.120 --> 0:36:28.080
<v Speaker 1>but like he's a he's a young guy. I think

0:36:28.120 --> 0:36:31.360
<v Speaker 1>he relates to players, and his pro career wasn't anything

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:34.560
<v Speaker 1>that anybody's going to remember, but like, I think he

0:36:34.960 --> 0:36:36.759
<v Speaker 1>has played football at a high level. I think that

0:36:36.920 --> 0:36:38.719
<v Speaker 1>I think he's got a certain amount of cachet there

0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:40.480
<v Speaker 1>where it's like, okay, like you look at what this

0:36:40.560 --> 0:36:42.800
<v Speaker 1>guy did in college and what he's done as a

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:45.640
<v Speaker 1>coach to this point. I think it's easy for him

0:36:45.680 --> 0:36:48.000
<v Speaker 1>to win people's trust that he knows what he's talking about.

0:36:48.040 --> 0:36:50.800
<v Speaker 1>When when it comes to that, it's it's gonna be

0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:53.759
<v Speaker 1>a tough situation for him, you know, if he if

0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:56.040
<v Speaker 1>he goes to another team, and you know, it depends

0:36:56.080 --> 0:36:58.200
<v Speaker 1>on depending on what they have on offense. You know,

0:36:58.360 --> 0:37:00.520
<v Speaker 1>do they have some pieces it's not to be like this,

0:37:00.719 --> 0:37:04.120
<v Speaker 1>and if they had pieces like this, then the coach

0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:08.200
<v Speaker 1>previously probably wouldn't have been fired. He's in a unique

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:11.880
<v Speaker 1>spot too, because he was the He was on the

0:37:12.040 --> 0:37:16.000
<v Speaker 1>team as a quarterback with Dak when Dak was drafted,

0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:19.080
<v Speaker 1>so they have a different relationship that way. And then

0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:20.920
<v Speaker 1>he helped him a lot. You know, he helped him

0:37:20.960 --> 0:37:23.560
<v Speaker 1>more than the starter did ever. Everyone knows that. And

0:37:23.719 --> 0:37:26.400
<v Speaker 1>then and then then he becomes his quarterback coach and

0:37:26.440 --> 0:37:29.160
<v Speaker 1>now the offensive coordinator, so they've been able to have

0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:32.560
<v Speaker 1>a relationship that will be unlike anything else he's done before.

0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:34.520
<v Speaker 1>I think he's relatable. I think he could do it,

0:37:34.640 --> 0:37:37.160
<v Speaker 1>and he's very very smart, but it will be a

0:37:37.280 --> 0:37:40.719
<v Speaker 1>challenge because this has kind of been molded into this

0:37:40.880 --> 0:37:43.239
<v Speaker 1>spot of offensive coordinator and that won't be the case

0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:45.880
<v Speaker 1>if you go somewhere else. Yeah, I do. When I

0:37:45.960 --> 0:37:49.600
<v Speaker 1>think about like an opportunity for Kellen, I would I

0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:51.560
<v Speaker 1>just leaned toward thinking like if he was going to

0:37:51.600 --> 0:37:53.800
<v Speaker 1>go somewhere that was about to draft a quarterback, and

0:37:53.920 --> 0:37:55.440
<v Speaker 1>he's going to have the chance to like do that

0:37:55.560 --> 0:37:59.120
<v Speaker 1>all over again, as opposed to going somewhere with like

0:37:59.160 --> 0:38:01.279
<v Speaker 1>an established and not saying that he couldn't do that,

0:38:01.440 --> 0:38:03.200
<v Speaker 1>but maybe it would be easier for him to do

0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:05.520
<v Speaker 1>it organically the way you can attack. Look at the

0:38:05.600 --> 0:38:07.759
<v Speaker 1>two spots that are open. One of them is that way.

0:38:07.960 --> 0:38:10.960
<v Speaker 1>It's got a quarterback. Sure, you know, I would be

0:38:11.160 --> 0:38:13.640
<v Speaker 1>really excited to see Kellen Morgan a chance to coach

0:38:13.760 --> 0:38:15.840
<v Speaker 1>Trevor Lawrence. That would be fun. I actually think that

0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:18.560
<v Speaker 1>that's a situation that looks like it would be a

0:38:19.160 --> 0:38:22.840
<v Speaker 1>good situation for somebody like him, if if the owner

0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:25.200
<v Speaker 1>were the type of guy that's willing to give him

0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:27.560
<v Speaker 1>a long runway, because that's not a quick rebuild. I

0:38:27.600 --> 0:38:29.080
<v Speaker 1>don't think. I don't think Jacksonville is one of those

0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:31.960
<v Speaker 1>places that you're going to rebuild. They're keeping their GM,

0:38:32.080 --> 0:38:33.880
<v Speaker 1>which I don't know if that's a great idea, I

0:38:33.880 --> 0:38:37.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Yeah, that gives me pause. And then the

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:41.680
<v Speaker 1>other job that's open is a little more dyssunctional over

0:38:41.760 --> 0:38:44.640
<v Speaker 1>there with the Raiders. Yeah, yeah, that's a hard that's

0:38:44.640 --> 0:38:46.360
<v Speaker 1>gonna be. I don't care who you are, it's going

0:38:46.400 --> 0:38:48.760
<v Speaker 1>to be a hard city to coach in, just because

0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:51.560
<v Speaker 1>I think there's a lot of distraction there there. That's

0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:53.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, every city has its distractions, but I think

0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:55.440
<v Speaker 1>that city has a lot of distractions, and I think

0:38:55.480 --> 0:38:59.239
<v Speaker 1>that's a challenge. I'm glad. And just to circle back

0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:01.239
<v Speaker 1>on that that, like, I think that an easy thing

0:39:01.320 --> 0:39:05.600
<v Speaker 1>to knock Kellen for, and I agree to a point,

0:39:05.760 --> 0:39:08.239
<v Speaker 1>is like it it's hard for me to imagine him

0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:12.800
<v Speaker 1>leading a locker room of like seventy players and thirty

0:39:12.840 --> 0:39:15.759
<v Speaker 1>other coaches and all the personalities and the egos that

0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:18.800
<v Speaker 1>go into that. But then at the same time, like

0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:24.759
<v Speaker 1>look around in the league, Zach Taylor, Matt Lafleur. Even

0:39:24.800 --> 0:39:27.080
<v Speaker 1>I know it sounds silly now, but like Sean McVay

0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:30.520
<v Speaker 1>had no like NFL cachet when he got the Rams job,

0:39:31.080 --> 0:39:33.800
<v Speaker 1>And so I think that that's not as big of

0:39:33.800 --> 0:39:35.520
<v Speaker 1>an obstacle as I think a lot of people want

0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:37.799
<v Speaker 1>to make it out to be. Like Kellen fits right

0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:40.360
<v Speaker 1>in the mold of a lot of these successful hires

0:39:40.400 --> 0:39:42.759
<v Speaker 1>over the last year. But from a personality standpoint, that's

0:39:42.760 --> 0:39:45.440
<v Speaker 1>where I wondered, I haven't spent enough time around I

0:39:45.480 --> 0:39:48.160
<v Speaker 1>think you have to have a very commanding presence if

0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:51.200
<v Speaker 1>you're going to be that guy. I think McVeigh he commands,

0:39:51.239 --> 0:39:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Like you look at the way he kind of presents himself.

0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:56.560
<v Speaker 1>He commands a certain and I think, you know, I

0:39:56.719 --> 0:39:59.640
<v Speaker 1>think that's probably something Kellen would have to work on

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:01.600
<v Speaker 1>as a head coach. But I do know he's got

0:40:01.800 --> 0:40:05.840
<v Speaker 1>far more personality than he likes to show, so I

0:40:05.920 --> 0:40:07.759
<v Speaker 1>would be it would be interesting to see what that

0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:10.239
<v Speaker 1>looked like. And another thing too, is like I think

0:40:10.360 --> 0:40:14.239
<v Speaker 1>Kellen Moore understands the situation he's in right now, Like

0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 1>he's got a very visible, high profile head coach with

0:40:17.680 --> 0:40:21.000
<v Speaker 1>an ego of his own, who Mike McCarthy I think,

0:40:21.200 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 1>didn't mind having Kellen Moore here, but he's still what

0:40:23.760 --> 0:40:26.040
<v Speaker 1>like Mike McCarthy didn't hand pick him, so he's like,

0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:28.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm not the coaches guy I'm getting a lot of

0:40:28.880 --> 0:40:31.120
<v Speaker 1>credit for this offense, Like, I just need to stay

0:40:31.160 --> 0:40:33.640
<v Speaker 1>in my lane and not be a thorn in Mike

0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:36.480
<v Speaker 1>McCarthy's side. So I wonder if he got into his

0:40:36.560 --> 0:40:38.879
<v Speaker 1>own situation where he was calling the shots. I wonder

0:40:39.080 --> 0:40:41.320
<v Speaker 1>what that would look like. It's it's hard to imagine, honestly,

0:40:41.320 --> 0:40:45.279
<v Speaker 1>because Kellen's been here since twenty fifteen, and he's been

0:40:45.480 --> 0:40:48.439
<v Speaker 1>so low key the entire time. Like I, it's hard

0:40:48.440 --> 0:40:50.759
<v Speaker 1>to imagine in any other way. But which would be

0:40:50.800 --> 0:40:55.600
<v Speaker 1>harder to replace? For Dallas dan Quinn? They asked, Yeah,

0:40:56.320 --> 0:40:58.040
<v Speaker 1>they asked me this on the radio today and I

0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:00.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to answer it, and I like I leaned

0:41:00.600 --> 0:41:04.480
<v Speaker 1>toward I put so much value on the quarterback play caller.

0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:07.239
<v Speaker 1>You want those two guys in sync. You want the

0:41:07.360 --> 0:41:10.160
<v Speaker 1>people in charge of your offense, like in lock step.

0:41:11.320 --> 0:41:14.320
<v Speaker 1>But there's so much talent on this offense that I

0:41:14.400 --> 0:41:17.120
<v Speaker 1>think it sells itself. And the ability to work with

0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:19.360
<v Speaker 1>a Dak Prescott, I think you could get yourself a

0:41:19.440 --> 0:41:21.200
<v Speaker 1>hell of a pool of candidates if you did have

0:41:21.320 --> 0:41:25.480
<v Speaker 1>to replace Kellen. Just haven't seen anything like what dan

0:41:25.560 --> 0:41:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Quinn's done with this defense in the last ten years.

0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:29.960
<v Speaker 1>I think the biggest key to that is you gotta

0:41:30.080 --> 0:41:32.600
<v Speaker 1>know how to use Michael Parsons. For Michael Parsons to

0:41:32.680 --> 0:41:35.200
<v Speaker 1>be the Michael Parsons that we've seen this year, it

0:41:35.239 --> 0:41:38.320
<v Speaker 1>would have been very comfortable for a lot of defensive

0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:40.359
<v Speaker 1>coordinators to just keep him at linebacker, and he would

0:41:40.360 --> 0:41:41.960
<v Speaker 1>have been a guy that was at the top of

0:41:42.000 --> 0:41:44.440
<v Speaker 1>the league in tackles. He would have made some splash

0:41:44.520 --> 0:41:47.439
<v Speaker 1>plays sideline. The sideline, you may have seen some stuff

0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:50.160
<v Speaker 1>in coverage. You probably wouldn't have seen him with his

0:41:50.239 --> 0:41:52.879
<v Speaker 1>hand on the ground rushing the passer. And so that's

0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:55.480
<v Speaker 1>where I'm like, I want to defensive coordinate whoever he is.

0:41:55.600 --> 0:41:58.480
<v Speaker 1>If Dan Quinn leaves, I need somebody that knows how

0:41:58.520 --> 0:42:01.879
<v Speaker 1>to use a rare talent like Mica in all those

0:42:01.960 --> 0:42:04.600
<v Speaker 1>different ways and give him those opportunities rather than just

0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:06.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of putting him in a box and asking him

0:42:06.239 --> 0:42:07.800
<v Speaker 1>to do that great because he could do it. I

0:42:07.920 --> 0:42:09.600
<v Speaker 1>just think you're not gonna get the most out of him.

0:42:09.920 --> 0:42:13.239
<v Speaker 1>I would, and I think the world of Kellen. I'm

0:42:13.520 --> 0:42:16.719
<v Speaker 1>the whole through this whole tough six weeks or so, Like,

0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:19.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't put too much of that on him.

0:42:19.800 --> 0:42:21.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, everybody had a hand in it, but I

0:42:21.440 --> 0:42:23.719
<v Speaker 1>just I don't think he just lost the plot. I

0:42:23.800 --> 0:42:25.520
<v Speaker 1>think he's a really good coach. I'd be sad if

0:42:25.560 --> 0:42:29.239
<v Speaker 1>he left. But if you're making me say one, I'd say, Dan,

0:42:29.719 --> 0:42:31.640
<v Speaker 1>all right, that's a rap. We'll be back tomorrow. We're

0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:34.759
<v Speaker 1>gonna talk tomorrow about the off the Arizona defense versus

0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:36.920
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys offense. Still then for Nick Keeping. Dave Helm

0:42:36.960 --> 0:42:39.000
<v Speaker 1>and I'm Derek Eagleton has been The Break Live on

0:42:39.200 --> 0:42:44.760
<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a production

0:42:44.920 --> 0:42:48.640
<v Speaker 1>of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.