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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,
Speaker 2: my name is Noah.
Speaker 3: They called me Ben. We're joined as always with our
Speaker 3: super producer Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you
Speaker 3: are you. You are here that makes this the stuff
Speaker 3: they don't want you to know. Fellow conspiracy realist friends
Speaker 3: and neighbors, we are joining you with a quite rare
Speaker 3: and extraordinary three part series. We got so deep into
Speaker 3: the conspiracy and the fact and the fiction surrounding something
Speaker 3: called the ann that we just couldn't let it go
Speaker 3: without getting into the aliens at least a little bit.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. And we're talking about all this stuff when
Speaker 2: there's such exciting information and new research coming out of
Speaker 2: places across the world, in Japan and the US, places
Speaker 2: that are checking out that Kuiper Belt looking for a
Speaker 2: potential new planet that is yet to be discovered and observed.
Speaker 2: And we're talking about stories about aliens coming from a
Speaker 2: potentially planet like that.
Speaker 3: Right now, nothing occurs in a vacuum, and certain poets
Speaker 3: would argue that all things that rise must converge.
Speaker 4: Yeah, indeed, so why don't we join ourselves already in progress?
Speaker 3: This belief, right, this ancient aliens thing is problematic because
Speaker 3: it was used historically to just all sorts of hilariously
Speaker 3: evil things. And it is true, to be fair that
Speaker 3: human civilizations with stark technological differences have encountered each other
Speaker 3: over the course of human history numerous times. In most cases,
Speaker 3: the folks with any sort of advantage, be that guns, germs,
Speaker 3: or steel shout out to Jared Diamonds. Those folks will
Speaker 3: tend to behave quite poorly and they will do extremely
Speaker 3: unclean things to the other civilization. So we've got it.
Speaker 3: We've done our you know, due diligence. Talking about the
Speaker 3: problems with ancient alien theory, the main thing you have
Speaker 3: to know is due to this sparse historical record of
Speaker 3: Anunaki in general, there was an opportunity for modern authors
Speaker 3: to reframe the anuw Noki myth and simply say, hey,
Speaker 3: this princely seed is all about extra terrestrials. And that's
Speaker 3: where we meet. A guy named Eric Vaughan Danigan.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So while this had already been the subject of
Speaker 4: some pretty fantastic science fiction, speculative fiction, cosmic horror at
Speaker 4: the late nineteenth and early twentieth century, and you know,
Speaker 4: there was some more journalistic exploration of the idea in
Speaker 4: nineteen fifty four, specifically by Harold T. Wilkins and possibly
Speaker 4: Emmanuel Velakowski, this idea hadn't really taken hold yet, and
Speaker 4: didn't until nineteen sixty eight, when Danakin's breakout Peace Chariots
Speaker 4: of the Gods made the bold claim that the world's
Speaker 4: oldest religion, cratid not from the observance of the celestial bodies,
Speaker 4: the observance of astronomical movement, or from the natural world itself,
Speaker 4: but rather as a reaction to firsthand experience and contact
Speaker 4: with an alien civilization.
Speaker 2: Yes, gosh it what awesome it hits?
Speaker 4: Really?
Speaker 2: How tell yeah exactly that that's what that That's what
Speaker 2: that does. And again, not from the stories that were
Speaker 2: passed down, the tales that were used for teaching lessons
Speaker 2: and controlling populations. No, it came from outer space and then,
Speaker 2: and really what it does is just putting a different
Speaker 2: lens on all of the ancient writing or inscription that
Speaker 2: were recovered back then. Just he's just choosing to look
Speaker 2: at a lot of the pictures and a lot of
Speaker 2: the interpretations of you know, the various ways in which
Speaker 2: some of these things, like the ancient muniform was translated.
Speaker 2: And then as you said, the princely seed, Ben, that's
Speaker 2: such a good way to get into this because you
Speaker 2: can just use that and then well let's imagine if
Speaker 2: you will, it's it means this instead, and I.
Speaker 3: Will and we did. Yeah, and I love no, I
Speaker 3: love that you're shouting out chariots of the gods because
Speaker 3: the original title ends in a question mark, so.
Speaker 4: He I should have put that in fassis on the Salabos.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because again it's the it's the question at
Speaker 2: the heart really, like are we saying when they write
Speaker 2: when they say chariots of the gods? What are they
Speaker 2: really saying chariots up there? Or are they just using
Speaker 2: the word chariot to say some kind of craft in
Speaker 2: the sky because they understand things that move as chariots like.
Speaker 3: That, ohnt row So like the Akkadians, like the Assyrians,
Speaker 3: like the uh No offense Americans. Uh Von Danakin is
Speaker 3: leaning into just what you described there, Matt interpretations arguably
Speaker 3: cherry picked passages of ancient carvings, passages of you know,
Speaker 3: like Nakamadi, Red Sea, Sorry Dylan, and you know old
Speaker 3: Testament things boss reliefs that appear to depict flying craft
Speaker 3: or larger entities in a drawing compared to a smaller
Speaker 3: what we assume to be a human being. And maybe
Speaker 3: sometimes those larger giants have wings or horns or whatever.
Speaker 3: Eric von Dannikin was formative to our show, Just be
Speaker 3: absolutely honest. He wrote a bunch of stuff about this.
Speaker 3: His main argument is that certain constructions require a more
Speaker 3: sophisticated technological and what was available to people, to Homo
Speaker 3: sapiens at the time. So he's the guy who really
Speaker 3: lights the fire under or popularizes the idea of Rapa Nui,
Speaker 3: a Stonehenge, the Great Pyramid, the Bagdak batteries, all that
Speaker 3: stuff being somehow informed by an extraterrestrial either pre human
Speaker 3: or non human sentient species. And then he also argued
Speaker 3: that ancient art and iconography proves this true. And so
Speaker 3: he sees, you know, he's like, ah, this thing is
Speaker 3: flying around. There was an ancient nuclear war in what
Speaker 3: we call South Asia today, Right, there are great sins
Speaker 3: committed by people. And if we look at all modern
Speaker 3: religions in the seed of this telephone style folklore style,
Speaker 3: we can find the proof of what happened. And he
Speaker 3: raises a good point in we have to give it
Speaker 3: to him. Vondannakan raises a good point where he says, look,
Speaker 3: if ancient people, ancient Homo sapiens encountered this kind of thing,
Speaker 3: they would naturally through their cultural framework, assume those were
Speaker 3: gods watchers in some religions, nephelip.
Speaker 2: As you said, it would be the lens that they
Speaker 2: would see that through. Right, And then how do you
Speaker 2: how do you write something like that down? You create
Speaker 2: the things that were found, You represent them perhaps as
Speaker 2: larger or different than you. They're similar to us, but
Speaker 2: they look a little different in the way they're depicted.
Speaker 2: You could see the reasoning, right, and you can see
Speaker 2: the exciting concept that's there. And and Vondanakan is not
Speaker 2: the only person We're going to talk about a few
Speaker 2: other people who who around this time are thinking about
Speaker 2: this stuff and doing their own interpretations, doing their own
Speaker 2: sometimes translations. Because there are a few people that actually
Speaker 2: begin to learn how to translate this ancient kuneiform, this
Speaker 2: Sumerian text, or at least they say that they have,
Speaker 2: and they do study. There are people who are studying
Speaker 2: this and there, and let's just let's put some emphasis
Speaker 2: on this.
Speaker 4: Guys.
Speaker 2: There are so few humans that could read some of
Speaker 2: the Acadian stuff, some of the Assyrian stuff, some of
Speaker 2: the especially the cuneiform and the Sumerian stuff. So few
Speaker 2: people could actually do that. And I would say, on
Speaker 2: this planet right now today, there's still a handful of
Speaker 2: human beings that can really do that. Well, it is
Speaker 2: rarefied air once you can put in all that work
Speaker 2: to learn that stuff. Because really, I mean, why would
Speaker 2: you unless you are extremely interested in proving some specific
Speaker 2: history or you want to prove really badly that something.
Speaker 2: There's another explanation for all.
Speaker 3: Of this interesting And look, there are, if we're being honest,
Speaker 3: which is the remit of our show, there are unanimous
Speaker 3: objections from every single imaginable accredited scientist in any tangentially
Speaker 3: related field to von Denikin's exploration. However, he is worth
Speaker 3: our time to mention because his work caught the public interest.
Speaker 3: So he's not the Tesla, but he is the Edison
Speaker 3: and his work becomes further popularized. It enters the zeitgeist
Speaker 3: because one of our patron saints, one of the Anunakias
Speaker 3: stuff they don't want you to know. None other than
Speaker 3: Rod Serling, the creator of Twilight Zone, also created this
Speaker 3: true story, a documentary about Eric von Donikin's beliefs, and
Speaker 3: that was syndicated across the United States. It was the
Speaker 3: first time people heard it. It was promethean. It caught fire.
Speaker 3: There was a film adaptation of his first book that
Speaker 3: debuts in nineteen seventy and it's coming at just the
Speaker 3: right time.
Speaker 1: You know, the.
Speaker 3: Cold War is here. There's a space race, right Like,
Speaker 3: what better way to talk about aliens than to talk
Speaker 3: about them while people are wondering about modern humans exploring space.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well humans are actively on television going to the moon.
Speaker 2: Pretty cool, Like that's happening right now? What are we
Speaker 2: going to find up there? It captures the imagination in
Speaker 2: a way. Not many things have space, I mean, so
Speaker 2: like thinking about other things that might be out there,
Speaker 2: or how that could possibly be related to us as
Speaker 2: a spcies that's doom.
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Speaker 3: Humanity has always said one thing, how can I make
Speaker 3: this about me? Right? Humanity looks at the moon and
Speaker 3: says like, what is you know? Like, how is this
Speaker 3: more about me? And this is where we get This
Speaker 3: is where we get to authors like Zechariah Sitchen, and
Speaker 3: David Ike. Full disclosure, we did interview David Ike many
Speaker 3: years ago. In the past, we did not talk about this,
Speaker 3: but where I would say, where like, you guys help
Speaker 3: me on this because you're better at music than I am.
Speaker 3: Where Eric von Danakin made like a typical for four
Speaker 3: basic beat for a hip hop track. Sitchen comes in
Speaker 3: and modifies the drums pal rhythms.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Matt's better drum terminology, but that could work.
Speaker 2: What's that? There's a thing I'm gonna lose the name
Speaker 2: of it. It's a very specific drum. I was gonna say, no,
Speaker 2: it's it's a sampled thing. Amen break or no, maybe
Speaker 2: that's wrong. It's there's a very specific drum sample that's
Speaker 2: been sampled the most out of any of them.
Speaker 4: Funky drummer.
Speaker 2: What is it?
Speaker 4: Well, it's James Brown Ike Doubblefield. Funky drummer is one
Speaker 4: of the most sampled drum breaks.
Speaker 2: I think that might be it. I think that might
Speaker 2: be it. I was singing one whose I think it's
Speaker 2: called Amen brother or something like that. But there's another one.
Speaker 4: That's there's a break as well.
Speaker 2: That's one that's the one thank you.
Speaker 3: Okay, So that's like the Wilhelm scream of drumming.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, they're just the idea that somebody made that
Speaker 2: in a song contextually for that song, but then for
Speaker 2: one reason or another, it ends up working even better
Speaker 2: in this other song and that becomes even more popular,
Speaker 2: and that you know, that group then becomes even more
Speaker 2: prolific in terms of record sales back in the day.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there's all kinds of interesting appropriations like
Speaker 4: that in religion, for sure. M hmm.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So take us too with that analogy of God. I
Speaker 3: trust falled so so hard on that one. I'm so
Speaker 3: happy that worked out. So I didn't know that would work.
Speaker 3: But then in that analogy, our buddy z Sitchen would
Speaker 3: be that amen break, right, he was.
Speaker 2: You talking Zechariah?
Speaker 3: Oh, we're talking zach aryah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah. One of the most prolific influential authors on the
Speaker 3: idea that the Annunaki are the ancient aliens reposed by
Speaker 3: Eric Vaughan Danigan. So let's, uh, let's learn a little
Speaker 3: bit more about him.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, and as we're doing this, please head on
Speaker 2: over to Sitchen dot com. That's s I T C
Speaker 2: H I N dot god. Oh, it's a beauty of
Speaker 2: a website. Check it out. It's really fun. I enjoy
Speaker 2: this so much. He'll take you to the twelfth planet
Speaker 2: and well beyond if you head on over there. It's
Speaker 2: only one of the books he's written, and there are
Speaker 2: a lot of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like don again before Sitchin created a series of
Speaker 3: books that are wait for it, orbiting his beliefs, Dylan,
Speaker 3: I am so sorry to Sitchin. The orbit here. The
Speaker 3: ado Noak origin story is something he calls deburu in
Speaker 3: I C I R you and he believes. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: a secret planet. And the reason it's a secret planet
Speaker 3: is because it as an elongated elliptical orbit around Earth's
Speaker 3: Sun and it takes about three thousand, six hundred years
Speaker 3: to complete its circle, to complete its orbit.
Speaker 2: Yes, and this is Sitchen's belief. Just remember that this
Speaker 2: is his belief. He believed that planet existed, and he
Speaker 2: believed that that is where these Anunakia originated. At one
Speaker 2: point when that orbit was close enough to Earth. For
Speaker 2: one reason or another, these Anunaki took off from that
Speaker 2: planet and landed on Earth. Why because they needed Gold's
Speaker 2: that's one of the major beliefs here. They needed gold.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the weirdest thing because his book are his
Speaker 3: first how did you put it in earlier's Breakout banger it? Yeah,
Speaker 3: is the twelfth planet. He says, this story or this
Speaker 3: narrative is readily apparent to anybody who has half their
Speaker 3: Jimmy's about them when they're learning Sumerian mythology, culture and
Speaker 3: the written record. And he also has a couple moments
Speaker 3: where he's like, do you read knea form my guy?
Speaker 1: Anyway?
Speaker 2: Yeah, much is made up by him about his skills
Speaker 2: and training he's done on that kind of thing, and
Speaker 2: you know how much of a leader he is in
Speaker 2: that kind of translation and understanding, and you know, he,
Speaker 2: like Danakin, has a ton of critics. Most I would say,
Speaker 2: I would say it's very similar to the reaction to
Speaker 2: Danik and stuff, because again, currently there's no there, at
Speaker 2: least there has not been any way to prove anything
Speaker 2: about this Nibru concept, and it's kind of wild. If
Speaker 2: you look into it enough, you'll find that the concept
Speaker 2: is the Aunaki came to Earth to get gold, and
Speaker 2: a lot of the Anunaki, because there were many of them,
Speaker 2: didn't like doing the whole manual labor thing of mining
Speaker 2: the gold out of the gold mines. So they wanted
Speaker 2: to find a way to create some kind of creature
Speaker 2: with the stuff around them that would mine the gold.
Speaker 2: So they took some of the great apes that were
Speaker 2: down there and some of the earth.
Speaker 4: Great apes mining gold. Sorry, well, I suppose much like
Speaker 4: that game.
Speaker 2: The concept here is that these Anunaki, using their far
Speaker 2: advanced technology, I mean they were able to take whatever
Speaker 2: space faring craft from their planet to get to Earth,
Speaker 2: they genetically engineered what we would consider Homo sapiens, at
Speaker 2: least according to the story, right, and those human beings
Speaker 2: were made to mine gold. And that's the whole like
Speaker 2: from this standpoint, from this book, from this concept in
Speaker 2: the beliefs of Sichion, that is how humanity came to be.
Speaker 2: This other race came from Nibru.
Speaker 3: Right right, Yeah, this is very much in tune with
Speaker 3: later folks. He's also inheriting a little bit from science
Speaker 3: fiction that preceded him that was clearly fiction. In Inner
Speaker 3: Buddy's's opinion, this civilization is super advanced despite or because
Speaker 3: of their precarious elliptical orbit. And he says, look, these
Speaker 3: folks that you're calling Anunaki or Nephelim or not quite gods,
Speaker 3: but kind of lowercase g gods. If I can reference
Speaker 3: chapter one, they showed up four hundred and fifty thousand
Speaker 3: years ago as modern Homo sapes reckoned the calendar. And
Speaker 3: like you were saying, Matt, they're not there to help things.
Speaker 3: They're not the big deal capital g gods. They are
Speaker 3: the worker bees. They're the blue collar lower g gods.
Speaker 3: They are colonialists, right. They're looking for gold in kitchens writing,
Speaker 3: And we have read these books page by page, folks,
Speaker 3: and we still can't find a real defensible reason why
Speaker 3: it would be gold in specific, other than light implications
Speaker 3: that it's a ductile metal that helps with some sort
Speaker 3: of interstellar or Neburian nice Neburian Neburian technology or resource desire.
Speaker 3: But that's the thing. They're not the fancy boys.
Speaker 2: No iroarchy. The way I think about though, I imagine seriously
Speaker 2: humanity in like fifty years and our ability to you know,
Speaker 2: go to different places if our technology continues the way
Speaker 2: it is, and some of these new breakthrough ways of
Speaker 2: propulsion and how to protect ships and these kinds of things.
Speaker 2: It's all happening right now. Like, head on over to
Speaker 2: Reddit slash our slash science and you're gonna you will
Speaker 2: see right now crazy advances that are happening, stuff that
Speaker 2: it didn't feel like it would happen for a while.
Speaker 2: And just imagine that, and then us going to some
Speaker 2: other planet because we need some more palladium or whatever
Speaker 2: the heck, you know, precious metal in order to build
Speaker 2: more things. And it weirdly makes sense, this whole story
Speaker 2: of creating humanity or a race of workers on another planet,
Speaker 2: because I think back to our discussions about the Moon
Speaker 2: and Mars, and like, how will we actually build things
Speaker 2: once we arrive to one of these places, rather than
Speaker 2: sending raw materials and how expensive that would be, you
Speaker 2: build with what's there. Right, logically, it would unformately work
Speaker 2: out in weird ways. But again, the proof of any
Speaker 2: of that it's non existent. It's it's all based on
Speaker 2: beliefs and translations of some of these early early texts.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And also the modern humans have not figured out how
Speaker 3: to just date in a low gravity environment.
Speaker 2: Mmmm, but we're figuring out, didn't the mice. Mice just
Speaker 2: returned that we're born in space.
Speaker 3: Also, we owe an apology to our buddy Brian Johnson,
Speaker 3: the multi millionaire slowing aging process by bloodbagging his own son.
Speaker 3: Recent research does show there's some there's some sand to
Speaker 3: the idea. We're not co signing it. We're not doctors.
Speaker 1: We are.
Speaker 3: Entities with an interest in human blood. So Sichen also
Speaker 3: argues there was descent in the ranks. These blue collar
Speaker 3: urians are like oil workers, are like roughnecks. They're irritated, right, They,
Speaker 3: like so many humans today, are laboring under unfair working conditions.
Speaker 3: Their life sucks. We've got this manager inky that we
Speaker 3: call aninochi lator, and he spearheads the creation of what
Speaker 3: we're calling a slave species, the Homo sapiens. This creature
Speaker 3: is created, per our buddy Zach by cross breeding the
Speaker 3: existent extant Homo erectus with genetic material from the Anunaki.
Speaker 3: So Samaria is created by the guidance of these folks
Speaker 3: who are not super like Star Trek prime directive help
Speaker 3: everybody type folks. Instead, they are gold hungry alien colonialists
Speaker 3: and they've gone by creating humanity. And I know, god
Speaker 3: native is a problematic term here. That's kind of what
Speaker 3: Sitchen uses and that's why he says some people are
Speaker 3: better than others because they have that god like DNA.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because some of these humans that they created, at
Speaker 2: least scored in the story, were able to actually do
Speaker 2: the communication. They were the middle managers between the people
Speaker 2: that created them that needed the stuff and the people
Speaker 2: the humans that were created that are actually in the
Speaker 2: minds right, which is weird concept, but again, it would
Speaker 2: work out really well to control the population if you
Speaker 2: had some very specific humans that only they can talk
Speaker 2: to the gods, right, sound.
Speaker 4: Familiar, Red, I am the conduit. You need me, you
Speaker 4: need me.
Speaker 2: So if we go along with Sichen's idea that started
Speaker 2: with the Twelfth Planet and continued on again through so
Speaker 2: many books where there's other details, more complications, all kinds
Speaker 2: of stuff that that gets lumped in there, theoretically all
Speaker 2: of humanity, where humanity rose there in Mesopotamia came directly
Speaker 2: from this genetic manipulation by these Anunaki, who were theoretically
Speaker 2: aliens from a planet that comes by every thirty six
Speaker 2: hundred years. I mean, yeah, sure, that's the thing. So
Speaker 2: we all descended in this story. We all descended from
Speaker 2: this occurrence, and things went pretty well for a while
Speaker 2: until somehow there was some kind of ancient future war,
Speaker 2: ancient war with future technology for us, but you know,
Speaker 2: maybe older technology for a far advanced civilization. Something You
Speaker 2: can imagine it like a nuclear war, but perhaps it
Speaker 2: was other forms of weaponry used. I think it's described
Speaker 2: as some kind of nuclear exchange.
Speaker 3: Yes, And the references would also be found later in oil.
Speaker 3: The interpretations of those references would be found later in
Speaker 3: things like the Bahak of Abgita, the Obama Shad, all
Speaker 3: the all the good hits, you know, all the recent
Speaker 3: pop culture stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah. We we talked about that a lot, because those
Speaker 2: are again interpretations of things that are in the sky
Speaker 2: that perhaps could be described as depictions of space ships
Speaker 2: if you think about it that way. What what is
Speaker 2: the name? It's on the tip of my tongue, the
Speaker 2: name of those ships, the via Manas. And I only
Speaker 2: remember that because I have watched von Dannikin's mouth on
Speaker 2: television say Viamna's many a time.
Speaker 3: I like the idea that you just watched his mouth.
Speaker 2: Well, I was trying to figure out what the heck
Speaker 2: he was saying. The what Viamana's what? Vimanas will take
Speaker 2: a quick break and be right back, and we've returned.
Speaker 3: Well, folks, we have to note that we have a
Speaker 3: lot to learn about people in the modern evening, and
Speaker 3: a lot to learn about people in the future and
Speaker 3: people in the past. It's fascinating. Just like the Sumerians
Speaker 3: to the Greeks, or Danakan Sitchen, or Judaism to Islam
Speaker 3: and Christianity. Indeed, you will find a lot of people
Speaker 3: have the same general starting points on the big questions,
Speaker 3: Capital B, capital Q. Likewise, we'll find a lot of
Speaker 3: people on every imaginable street corner of the Internet arguing
Speaker 3: they have discovered the truth about the Annaki, and keep
Speaker 3: in mind, often that truth is more like the interpretation
Speaker 3: that best serves them. No, Matt, I think it's important
Speaker 3: for us to note that these people we're describing, they're
Speaker 3: not all out to dwindle you or built you. There
Speaker 3: are a ton of folks who genuinely believe their own
Speaker 3: discoveries as they would put it, their own realizations. As
Speaker 3: long as they're not hurting anyone else, I say, they
Speaker 3: should be free to believe as they wish.
Speaker 4: I completely agree. There are also folks who are true believers,
Speaker 4: and that makes them all the more dangerous. But very
Speaker 4: much to your point, Ben, it's all about what you
Speaker 4: do with that belief, and if it's a way to
Speaker 4: achieve personal enlightenment, or you have a way of guiding
Speaker 4: your life and focusing positive energy, I am all for
Speaker 4: whatever you want to believe. However, in history we often
Speaker 4: see the folks that are the truest believers I have
Speaker 4: the most power often recavoc on those who do not
Speaker 4: believe the same thing that they do.
Speaker 2: Imagine how powerful this concept would be if you're first
Speaker 2: stumbling on it and there isn't somebody like fondank in
Speaker 2: Incision out there writing about it, This concept of maybe
Speaker 2: these things depicted are aliens? What if they are? And
Speaker 2: then you begin looking and you start to see stuff
Speaker 2: that feels like it's reinforcing this belief, or it feels
Speaker 2: like you're finding proof, So you continue down that rabbit hole.
Speaker 2: You keep going and keep going. Now there are people
Speaker 2: around you that want to believe this idea that you're
Speaker 2: cooking up. And I just imagine that, I imagine that scenario
Speaker 2: for a lot of these humans that have been writing
Speaker 2: about this stuff and researching it and wanting to believe
Speaker 2: it so badly, and then also finding a way to
Speaker 2: make money on it, writing books, being on television, you
Speaker 2: know that kind of thing. It makes so much sense
Speaker 2: to me why anyone could get go down that rabbit
Speaker 2: hole of research and why anyone would be intrigued by
Speaker 2: the concept.
Speaker 3: M M, I agreed. You know what we are saying
Speaker 3: is there's this is perfect fodder, This is fertile soil
Speaker 3: because there is a true historical record right documented, but
Speaker 3: there are a lot of gaps in that record. So
Speaker 3: it allows people to, with good intentions or bad intentions,
Speaker 3: insert their own agenda into the story. And now that
Speaker 3: you guys are spinning it to me this way, I
Speaker 3: would love to hear like a sports or tech bro
Speaker 3: podcast from ancient Sumeria where they're like, Uh, what Bro,
Speaker 3: it's me your boys Asura. We got this crazy dude.
Speaker 3: You know him, you love them Inky, He's coming here.
Speaker 3: He's got some uh, he's got some wet wet dude.
Speaker 3: What's going on with this flood?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: Man, men, so stop doing that. The flood is to
Speaker 2: punish you. You are bad.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, guys, we have to talk about really quickly.
Speaker 2: Look up things in your own research. When you're thinking
Speaker 2: about this stuff, look up stuff from the recent past.
Speaker 2: Twenty fifteen, the University of Cambridge looking at the human
Speaker 2: genome as it was, you know, it had been first sequenced.
Speaker 2: They're really turned down into it. They find that there
Speaker 2: are some weird things in the human genome one hundred
Speaker 2: and twenty eight additional foreign genes in the human genome
Speaker 2: that have not previously been reported. They found new stuff
Speaker 2: where there appears to be horizontal gene transfer from stuff
Speaker 2: like bacteria and fungus. Yeah, like, there's there are some
Speaker 2: weird stuff going on in humanity's genome that makes this
Speaker 2: kind of concept even more interesting. I think. So look
Speaker 2: at that. Also, look at new stuff in the Kuiper
Speaker 2: belt that we're find there are right now, there are researchers,
Speaker 2: especially in universities, that are looking at the Kuiper Belt,
Speaker 2: trying to find stuff that's way way out there that
Speaker 2: could potentially be another large planet on either a huge
Speaker 2: orbit that's like beyond the Kuiper Belt or which didn't
Speaker 2: seem feasible, or one that's on a crazy elliptical orbit
Speaker 2: that humanity just has yet to discover because we didn't
Speaker 2: have the telescopic technology to see.
Speaker 3: It yet, not necessarily even a planet. Worry yourselves, not
Speaker 3: with the nomenclature, folks, worry yourselves with the schedule, right
Speaker 3: and the idea here. And I love that reference to
Speaker 3: our earlier episodes on the mixtape that is modern Homo Sapiens.
Speaker 3: Right now, your favorite big boy surveillance stuff can still
Speaker 3: not entirely figure out all of the DNA for all
Speaker 3: of what you call modern.
Speaker 2: Human beings, which is called DNA.
Speaker 3: Sure, thanks, and I'm not offended. I choose not to
Speaker 3: be offended. Things like me slip through the cracks and
Speaker 3: maybe thousands of years in the future, this podcast will
Speaker 3: sound awesome. I also think, guys, we've got to do
Speaker 3: another episode just about Burrow. We've got to do another
Speaker 3: episode maybe about gut biome. That's where a lot of
Speaker 3: the uh, your fun fun DNA is coming in, by
Speaker 3: the way.
Speaker 2: Where a lot of your u the control of your
Speaker 2: body comes from.
Speaker 3: Apparently, Oh, give them the jimmies, man, give them Jimmy's.
Speaker 3: So what about this? Why don't we end it with
Speaker 3: this concept? Depending on where you find yourself right now,
Speaker 3: you specifically you, whether you are online or you are
Speaker 3: what do we say, I R L we do? What
Speaker 3: is that one?
Speaker 4: In real life?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, in real life, you'll run
Speaker 3: in to any number of competing, contradictory attempts to sort
Speaker 3: of recontextualize stuff you heard before. It could be something
Speaker 3: as innocuous as tracing the long game of telephone and
Speaker 3: religious syncretism, you know, Mithra to Jesus Christ. Whatever. It
Speaker 3: could be something as dangerous as spinning a story to
Speaker 3: rationalize and normalize real world violence against innocent people. So
Speaker 3: let's say this. The real truth about spirituality is it
Speaker 3: is a trip. You and only you are in the
Speaker 3: driver's seat. Like any other trip, your mileage may vary.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, do you think we could make there could be
Speaker 4: like an onnak chatbot. That sounds like a great idea,
Speaker 4: doesn't it. Do you think people are eventually gonna start
Speaker 4: worshiping Ai? We've talked about this. I think it was
Speaker 4: that exact same question. Yeah, kind of creepy. Let us
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Speaker 3: being well aware yet unafraid. Sometimes the void writes back,
Speaker 3: as several of us know. Actually the void is writing
Speaker 3: back more and more often. Could it be that God
Speaker 3: was an extra terrestrial? What do we mean when we
Speaker 3: say that heaven is in the clouds? From Jesus Christ
Speaker 3: to Elvis Presley, every culture tells us of high flying
Speaker 3: bird men who zoom around the world creating magnificent works
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