WEBVTT - The Anunnaki, Chapter Three: A Future in the Sky? 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:05.160 From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 0:00:05.240 --> 0:00:09.560 riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 0:00:09.640 --> 0:00:12.600 learn this stuff they don't want you to know. A 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:14.320 production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:29.000 Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:30.520 my name is Noah. 0:00:31.160 --> 0:00:33.680 They called me Ben. We're joined as always with our 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:38.000 super producer Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:41.479 are you. You are here that makes this the stuff 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:45.400 they don't want you to know. Fellow conspiracy realist friends 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:49.320 and neighbors, we are joining you with a quite rare 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:54.520 and extraordinary three part series. We got so deep into 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:58.880 the conspiracy and the fact and the fiction surrounding something 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:02.920 called the ann that we just couldn't let it go 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:06.640 without getting into the aliens at least a little bit. 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:09.760 Oh yeah. And we're talking about all this stuff when 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:14.759 there's such exciting information and new research coming out of 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:18.959 places across the world, in Japan and the US, places 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:23.520 that are checking out that Kuiper Belt looking for a 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:27.280 potential new planet that is yet to be discovered and observed. 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:31.200 And we're talking about stories about aliens coming from a 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:32.959 potentially planet like that. 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:38.040 Right now, nothing occurs in a vacuum, and certain poets 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:41.280 would argue that all things that rise must converge. 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:47.240 Yeah, indeed, so why don't we join ourselves already in progress? 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:57.840 This belief, right, this ancient aliens thing is problematic because 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:03.040 it was used historically to just all sorts of hilariously 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:07.320 evil things. And it is true, to be fair that 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:13.959 human civilizations with stark technological differences have encountered each other 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:19.680 over the course of human history numerous times. In most cases, 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:24.200 the folks with any sort of advantage, be that guns, germs, 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:28.679 or steel shout out to Jared Diamonds. Those folks will 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:32.320 tend to behave quite poorly and they will do extremely 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:39.560 unclean things to the other civilization. So we've got it. 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:43.120 We've done our you know, due diligence. Talking about the 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:47.160 problems with ancient alien theory, the main thing you have 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:50.680 to know is due to this sparse historical record of 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:57.800 Anunaki in general, there was an opportunity for modern authors 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:03.120 to reframe the anuw Noki myth and simply say, hey, 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:09.839 this princely seed is all about extra terrestrials. And that's 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:13.040 where we meet. A guy named Eric Vaughan Danigan. 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:16.480 Yeah. So while this had already been the subject of 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:21.320 some pretty fantastic science fiction, speculative fiction, cosmic horror at 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:24.799 the late nineteenth and early twentieth century, and you know, 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:28.760 there was some more journalistic exploration of the idea in 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:32.359 nineteen fifty four, specifically by Harold T. Wilkins and possibly 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:36.600 Emmanuel Velakowski, this idea hadn't really taken hold yet, and 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:41.760 didn't until nineteen sixty eight, when Danakin's breakout Peace Chariots 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:45.440 of the Gods made the bold claim that the world's 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:52.440 oldest religion, cratid not from the observance of the celestial bodies, 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:56.840 the observance of astronomical movement, or from the natural world itself, 0:03:56.840 --> 0:04:02.760 but rather as a reaction to firsthand experience and contact 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:05.160 with an alien civilization. 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:10.240 Yes, gosh it what awesome it hits? 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:10.640 Really? 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:14.920 How tell yeah exactly that that's what that That's what 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:18.680 that does. And again, not from the stories that were 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:24.839 passed down, the tales that were used for teaching lessons 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:29.880 and controlling populations. No, it came from outer space and then, 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:32.720 and really what it does is just putting a different 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:37.840 lens on all of the ancient writing or inscription that 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:41.760 were recovered back then. Just he's just choosing to look 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:44.320 at a lot of the pictures and a lot of 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:48.520 the interpretations of you know, the various ways in which 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:52.520 some of these things, like the ancient muniform was translated. 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:54.920 And then as you said, the princely seed, Ben, that's 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:56.599 such a good way to get into this because you 0:04:56.640 --> 0:04:59.920 can just use that and then well let's imagine if 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:05.560 you will, it's it means this instead, and I. 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:09.839 Will and we did. Yeah, and I love no, I 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:14.279 love that you're shouting out chariots of the gods because 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:19.840 the original title ends in a question mark, so. 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:23.599 He I should have put that in fassis on the Salabos. 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:27.400 Well, yeah, because again it's the it's the question at 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:30.039 the heart really, like are we saying when they write 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:32.640 when they say chariots of the gods? What are they 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:37.359 really saying chariots up there? Or are they just using 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:42.680 the word chariot to say some kind of craft in 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:47.160 the sky because they understand things that move as chariots like. 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:54.200 That, ohnt row So like the Akkadians, like the Assyrians, 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:58.880 like the uh No offense Americans. Uh Von Danakin is 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:05.520 leaning into just what you described there, Matt interpretations arguably 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:13.160 cherry picked passages of ancient carvings, passages of you know, 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:20.000 like Nakamadi, Red Sea, Sorry Dylan, and you know old 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:26.800 Testament things boss reliefs that appear to depict flying craft 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:33.320 or larger entities in a drawing compared to a smaller 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:36.400 what we assume to be a human being. And maybe 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:41.960 sometimes those larger giants have wings or horns or whatever. 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:48.080 Eric von Dannikin was formative to our show, Just be 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:52.400 absolutely honest. He wrote a bunch of stuff about this. 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:57.760 His main argument is that certain constructions require a more 0:06:57.839 --> 0:07:03.760 sophisticated technological and what was available to people, to Homo 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:07.479 sapiens at the time. So he's the guy who really 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:13.520 lights the fire under or popularizes the idea of Rapa Nui, 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:19.920 a Stonehenge, the Great Pyramid, the Bagdak batteries, all that 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:26.760 stuff being somehow informed by an extraterrestrial either pre human 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:31.400 or non human sentient species. And then he also argued 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:36.720 that ancient art and iconography proves this true. And so 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:39.320 he sees, you know, he's like, ah, this thing is 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:43.320 flying around. There was an ancient nuclear war in what 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:48.520 we call South Asia today, Right, there are great sins 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:51.679 committed by people. And if we look at all modern 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:56.920 religions in the seed of this telephone style folklore style, 0:07:57.480 --> 0:08:01.920 we can find the proof of what happened. And he 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:06.720 raises a good point in we have to give it 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:11.080 to him. Vondannakan raises a good point where he says, look, 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:17.640 if ancient people, ancient Homo sapiens encountered this kind of thing, 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:23.080 they would naturally through their cultural framework, assume those were 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:27.160 gods watchers in some religions, nephelip. 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:28.880 As you said, it would be the lens that they 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:33.839 would see that through. Right, And then how do you 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:38.320 how do you write something like that down? You create 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:42.280 the things that were found, You represent them perhaps as 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:46.200 larger or different than you. They're similar to us, but 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:48.840 they look a little different in the way they're depicted. 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:52.120 You could see the reasoning, right, and you can see 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:57.920 the exciting concept that's there. And and Vondanakan is not 0:08:57.960 --> 0:08:59.400 the only person We're going to talk about a few 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:02.839 other people who who around this time are thinking about 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:06.120 this stuff and doing their own interpretations, doing their own 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:10.920 sometimes translations. Because there are a few people that actually 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:15.679 begin to learn how to translate this ancient kuneiform, this 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:19.920 Sumerian text, or at least they say that they have, 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:22.280 and they do study. There are people who are studying 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:24.800 this and there, and let's just let's put some emphasis 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:25.120 on this. 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:25.480 Guys. 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:28.680 There are so few humans that could read some of 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:31.240 the Acadian stuff, some of the Assyrian stuff, some of 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:36.080 the especially the cuneiform and the Sumerian stuff. So few 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:38.760 people could actually do that. And I would say, on 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:42.000 this planet right now today, there's still a handful of 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:45.760 human beings that can really do that. Well, it is 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:50.000 rarefied air once you can put in all that work 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:53.720 to learn that stuff. Because really, I mean, why would 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:58.040 you unless you are extremely interested in proving some specific 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:01.960 history or you want to prove really badly that something. 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:04.040 There's another explanation for all. 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:08.320 Of this interesting And look, there are, if we're being honest, 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:12.120 which is the remit of our show, there are unanimous 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:21.800 objections from every single imaginable accredited scientist in any tangentially 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:30.520 related field to von Denikin's exploration. However, he is worth 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:35.040 our time to mention because his work caught the public interest. 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:38.320 So he's not the Tesla, but he is the Edison 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:45.120 and his work becomes further popularized. It enters the zeitgeist 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:51.240 because one of our patron saints, one of the Anunakias 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:53.840 stuff they don't want you to know. None other than 0:10:54.120 --> 0:11:00.120 Rod Serling, the creator of Twilight Zone, also created this 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:07.080 true story, a documentary about Eric von Donikin's beliefs, and 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:11.920 that was syndicated across the United States. It was the 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:16.000 first time people heard it. It was promethean. It caught fire. 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:20.240 There was a film adaptation of his first book that 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:24.920 debuts in nineteen seventy and it's coming at just the 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:25.600 right time. 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:26.360 You know, the. 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:30.840 Cold War is here. There's a space race, right Like, 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:37.880 what better way to talk about aliens than to talk 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:44.080 about them while people are wondering about modern humans exploring space. 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:48.000 Yeah, well humans are actively on television going to the moon. 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:51.880 Pretty cool, Like that's happening right now? What are we 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:55.720 going to find up there? It captures the imagination in 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:59.800 a way. Not many things have space, I mean, so 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:02.320 like thinking about other things that might be out there, 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:06.000 or how that could possibly be related to us as 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:07.880 a spcies that's doom. 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:11.760 Will pause here for a word from our sponsors and 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:20.920 be right back with more well ancient aliens, and we're back. 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:27.720 Humanity has always said one thing, how can I make 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:31.120 this about me? Right? Humanity looks at the moon and 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:33.880 says like, what is you know? Like, how is this 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:39.040 more about me? And this is where we get This 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:42.560 is where we get to authors like Zechariah Sitchen, and 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:48.760 David Ike. Full disclosure, we did interview David Ike many 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:52.800 years ago. In the past, we did not talk about this, 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:57.160 but where I would say, where like, you guys help 0:12:57.240 --> 0:12:59.320 me on this because you're better at music than I am. 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:03.400 Where Eric von Danakin made like a typical for four 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:09.440 basic beat for a hip hop track. Sitchen comes in 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:15.600 and modifies the drums pal rhythms. 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:19.480 Yeah, Matt's better drum terminology, but that could work. 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:22.480 What's that? There's a thing I'm gonna lose the name 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:26.600 of it. It's a very specific drum. I was gonna say, no, 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:30.840 it's it's a sampled thing. Amen break or no, maybe 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:34.400 that's wrong. It's there's a very specific drum sample that's 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:36.400 been sampled the most out of any of them. 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:37.160 Funky drummer. 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:37.840 What is it? 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:42.400 Well, it's James Brown Ike Doubblefield. Funky drummer is one 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:44.240 of the most sampled drum breaks. 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:46.160 I think that might be it. I think that might 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:48.440 be it. I was singing one whose I think it's 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:50.760 called Amen brother or something like that. But there's another one. 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:52.280 That's there's a break as well. 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:55.080 That's one that's the one thank you. 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:59.640 Okay, So that's like the Wilhelm scream of drumming. 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:02.480 Well, yeah, they're just the idea that somebody made that 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:05.679 in a song contextually for that song, but then for 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:09.560 one reason or another, it ends up working even better 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:13.160 in this other song and that becomes even more popular, 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:16.040 and that you know, that group then becomes even more 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:19.040 prolific in terms of record sales back in the day. 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:19.520 Yeah. 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:21.960 Yeah, I mean there's all kinds of interesting appropriations like 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:25.000 that in religion, for sure. M hmm. 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:25.520 Yeah. 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:28.880 So take us too with that analogy of God. I 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:33.600 trust falled so so hard on that one. I'm so 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:37.960 happy that worked out. So I didn't know that would work. 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:43.560 But then in that analogy, our buddy z Sitchen would 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:46.720 be that amen break, right, he was. 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:47.760 You talking Zechariah? 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:50.080 Oh, we're talking zach aryah. 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:50.440 Yeah. 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:55.560 Yeah. One of the most prolific influential authors on the 0:14:55.600 --> 0:15:00.960 idea that the Annunaki are the ancient aliens reposed by 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:05.680 Eric Vaughan Danigan. So let's, uh, let's learn a little 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:06.560 bit more about him. 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:09.680 Oh yes, and as we're doing this, please head on 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:12.480 over to Sitchen dot com. That's s I T C 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:16.520 H I N dot god. Oh, it's a beauty of 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:20.200 a website. Check it out. It's really fun. I enjoy 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:22.680 this so much. He'll take you to the twelfth planet 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:26.000 and well beyond if you head on over there. It's 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:27.920 only one of the books he's written, and there are 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:29.080 a lot of them. 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:34.400 Yeah, like don again before Sitchin created a series of 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:40.160 books that are wait for it, orbiting his beliefs, Dylan, 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:46.280 I am so sorry to Sitchin. The orbit here. The 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:51.800 ado Noak origin story is something he calls deburu in 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:55.800 I C I R you and he believes. Yeah, it's 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:59.720 a secret planet. And the reason it's a secret planet 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:05.480 is because it as an elongated elliptical orbit around Earth's 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:10.520 Sun and it takes about three thousand, six hundred years 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:15.000 to complete its circle, to complete its orbit. 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:19.840 Yes, and this is Sitchen's belief. Just remember that this 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:24.200 is his belief. He believed that planet existed, and he 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:29.000 believed that that is where these Anunakia originated. At one 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:31.800 point when that orbit was close enough to Earth. For 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:36.160 one reason or another, these Anunaki took off from that 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:41.720 planet and landed on Earth. Why because they needed Gold's 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:45.960 that's one of the major beliefs here. They needed gold. 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:51.360 Yeah, that's the weirdest thing because his book are his 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:57.160 first how did you put it in earlier's Breakout banger it? Yeah, 0:16:57.400 --> 0:17:02.960 is the twelfth planet. He says, this story or this 0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:08.200 narrative is readily apparent to anybody who has half their 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:12.760 Jimmy's about them when they're learning Sumerian mythology, culture and 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:16.080 the written record. And he also has a couple moments 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:20.120 where he's like, do you read knea form my guy? 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:21.200 Anyway? 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:27.600 Yeah, much is made up by him about his skills 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:30.720 and training he's done on that kind of thing, and 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:34.000 you know how much of a leader he is in 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:38.600 that kind of translation and understanding, and you know, he, 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:43.120 like Danakin, has a ton of critics. Most I would say, 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:45.680 I would say it's very similar to the reaction to 0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:51.520 Danik and stuff, because again, currently there's no there, at 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:54.160 least there has not been any way to prove anything 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:58.200 about this Nibru concept, and it's kind of wild. If 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:02.680 you look into it enough, you'll find that the concept 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:05.800 is the Aunaki came to Earth to get gold, and 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:09.040 a lot of the Anunaki, because there were many of them, 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:12.680 didn't like doing the whole manual labor thing of mining 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:15.600 the gold out of the gold mines. So they wanted 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:18.440 to find a way to create some kind of creature 0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:21.680 with the stuff around them that would mine the gold. 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:24.120 So they took some of the great apes that were 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:26.440 down there and some of the earth. 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:33.359 Great apes mining gold. Sorry, well, I suppose much like 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:34.240 that game. 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:38.080 The concept here is that these Anunaki, using their far 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:40.800 advanced technology, I mean they were able to take whatever 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:44.760 space faring craft from their planet to get to Earth, 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:50.040 they genetically engineered what we would consider Homo sapiens, at 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:54.120 least according to the story, right, and those human beings 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:57.639 were made to mine gold. And that's the whole like 0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:00.760 from this standpoint, from this book, from this concept in 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:05.040 the beliefs of Sichion, that is how humanity came to be. 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:07.000 This other race came from Nibru. 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:11.479 Right right, Yeah, this is very much in tune with 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:15.760 later folks. He's also inheriting a little bit from science 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:20.680 fiction that preceded him that was clearly fiction. In Inner 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:27.560 Buddy's's opinion, this civilization is super advanced despite or because 0:19:27.640 --> 0:19:32.879 of their precarious elliptical orbit. And he says, look, these 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:37.879 folks that you're calling Anunaki or Nephelim or not quite gods, 0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:41.119 but kind of lowercase g gods. If I can reference 0:19:41.200 --> 0:19:46.040 chapter one, they showed up four hundred and fifty thousand 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:50.400 years ago as modern Homo sapes reckoned the calendar. And 0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:55.880 like you were saying, Matt, they're not there to help things. 0:19:56.320 --> 0:20:01.560 They're not the big deal capital g gods. They are 0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:05.840 the worker bees. They're the blue collar lower g gods. 0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:14.200 They are colonialists, right. They're looking for gold in kitchens writing, 0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:18.280 And we have read these books page by page, folks, 0:20:18.359 --> 0:20:25.600 and we still can't find a real defensible reason why 0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:30.960 it would be gold in specific, other than light implications 0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:36.520 that it's a ductile metal that helps with some sort 0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:47.560 of interstellar or Neburian nice Neburian Neburian technology or resource desire. 0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:50.840 But that's the thing. They're not the fancy boys. 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:55.240 No iroarchy. The way I think about though, I imagine seriously 0:20:55.359 --> 0:20:59.439 humanity in like fifty years and our ability to you know, 0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:03.160 go to different places if our technology continues the way 0:21:03.160 --> 0:21:06.720 it is, and some of these new breakthrough ways of 0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:10.080 propulsion and how to protect ships and these kinds of things. 0:21:10.240 --> 0:21:12.560 It's all happening right now. Like, head on over to 0:21:12.600 --> 0:21:15.520 Reddit slash our slash science and you're gonna you will 0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:19.280 see right now crazy advances that are happening, stuff that 0:21:19.880 --> 0:21:21.720 it didn't feel like it would happen for a while. 0:21:22.359 --> 0:21:25.840 And just imagine that, and then us going to some 0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:29.200 other planet because we need some more palladium or whatever 0:21:29.240 --> 0:21:32.720 the heck, you know, precious metal in order to build 0:21:32.800 --> 0:21:37.560 more things. And it weirdly makes sense, this whole story 0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:42.840 of creating humanity or a race of workers on another planet, 0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:46.240 because I think back to our discussions about the Moon 0:21:46.320 --> 0:21:49.880 and Mars, and like, how will we actually build things 0:21:49.920 --> 0:21:52.560 once we arrive to one of these places, rather than 0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:55.879 sending raw materials and how expensive that would be, you 0:21:56.000 --> 0:22:00.720 build with what's there. Right, logically, it would unformately work 0:22:00.800 --> 0:22:05.120 out in weird ways. But again, the proof of any 0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:08.919 of that it's non existent. It's it's all based on 0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:12.880 beliefs and translations of some of these early early texts. 0:22:13.640 --> 0:22:13.880 Yes. 0:22:14.560 --> 0:22:14.760 Yeah. 0:22:14.800 --> 0:22:18.080 And also the modern humans have not figured out how 0:22:18.119 --> 0:22:22.119 to just date in a low gravity environment. 0:22:22.600 --> 0:22:25.560 Mmmm, but we're figuring out, didn't the mice. Mice just 0:22:25.600 --> 0:22:26.879 returned that we're born in space. 0:22:27.600 --> 0:22:31.240 Also, we owe an apology to our buddy Brian Johnson, 0:22:32.119 --> 0:22:38.359 the multi millionaire slowing aging process by bloodbagging his own son. 0:22:39.200 --> 0:22:44.000 Recent research does show there's some there's some sand to 0:22:44.080 --> 0:22:47.240 the idea. We're not co signing it. We're not doctors. 0:22:47.840 --> 0:22:48.359 We are. 0:22:49.760 --> 0:22:55.240 Entities with an interest in human blood. So Sichen also 0:22:55.800 --> 0:22:59.320 argues there was descent in the ranks. These blue collar 0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:07.080 urians are like oil workers, are like roughnecks. They're irritated, right, They, 0:23:07.320 --> 0:23:16.160 like so many humans today, are laboring under unfair working conditions. 0:23:16.240 --> 0:23:19.639 Their life sucks. We've got this manager inky that we 0:23:19.720 --> 0:23:24.399 call aninochi lator, and he spearheads the creation of what 0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:28.680 we're calling a slave species, the Homo sapiens. This creature 0:23:29.040 --> 0:23:34.920 is created, per our buddy Zach by cross breeding the 0:23:35.080 --> 0:23:41.199 existent extant Homo erectus with genetic material from the Anunaki. 0:23:41.520 --> 0:23:46.560 So Samaria is created by the guidance of these folks 0:23:46.600 --> 0:23:51.880 who are not super like Star Trek prime directive help 0:23:51.920 --> 0:23:58.480 everybody type folks. Instead, they are gold hungry alien colonialists 0:23:59.040 --> 0:24:03.000 and they've gone by creating humanity. And I know, god 0:24:03.119 --> 0:24:07.520 native is a problematic term here. That's kind of what 0:24:07.640 --> 0:24:11.720 Sitchen uses and that's why he says some people are 0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:15.800 better than others because they have that god like DNA. 0:24:16.119 --> 0:24:18.760 Yeah, because some of these humans that they created, at 0:24:18.800 --> 0:24:20.840 least scored in the story, were able to actually do 0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:23.679 the communication. They were the middle managers between the people 0:24:23.720 --> 0:24:26.560 that created them that needed the stuff and the people 0:24:26.960 --> 0:24:29.199 the humans that were created that are actually in the 0:24:29.280 --> 0:24:34.840 minds right, which is weird concept, but again, it would 0:24:34.840 --> 0:24:37.399 work out really well to control the population if you 0:24:37.480 --> 0:24:40.879 had some very specific humans that only they can talk 0:24:41.000 --> 0:24:43.400 to the gods, right, sound. 0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:48.800 Familiar, Red, I am the conduit. You need me, you 0:24:48.840 --> 0:24:49.199 need me. 0:24:49.600 --> 0:24:52.720 So if we go along with Sichen's idea that started 0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:55.080 with the Twelfth Planet and continued on again through so 0:24:55.320 --> 0:24:59.200 many books where there's other details, more complications, all kinds 0:24:59.240 --> 0:25:03.159 of stuff that that gets lumped in there, theoretically all 0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:08.359 of humanity, where humanity rose there in Mesopotamia came directly 0:25:08.440 --> 0:25:13.360 from this genetic manipulation by these Anunaki, who were theoretically 0:25:13.920 --> 0:25:16.600 aliens from a planet that comes by every thirty six 0:25:16.720 --> 0:25:21.359 hundred years. I mean, yeah, sure, that's the thing. So 0:25:21.400 --> 0:25:24.480 we all descended in this story. We all descended from 0:25:24.520 --> 0:25:28.960 this occurrence, and things went pretty well for a while 0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:34.280 until somehow there was some kind of ancient future war, 0:25:37.160 --> 0:25:41.199 ancient war with future technology for us, but you know, 0:25:41.359 --> 0:25:46.800 maybe older technology for a far advanced civilization. Something You 0:25:46.800 --> 0:25:50.359 can imagine it like a nuclear war, but perhaps it 0:25:50.400 --> 0:25:54.359 was other forms of weaponry used. I think it's described 0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:56.840 as some kind of nuclear exchange. 0:25:57.119 --> 0:26:02.840 Yes, And the references would also be found later in oil. 0:26:03.280 --> 0:26:07.440 The interpretations of those references would be found later in 0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:11.760 things like the Bahak of Abgita, the Obama Shad, all 0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:14.439 the all the good hits, you know, all the recent 0:26:14.600 --> 0:26:15.719 pop culture stuff. 0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:18.160 Yeah. We we talked about that a lot, because those 0:26:18.160 --> 0:26:21.280 are again interpretations of things that are in the sky 0:26:21.600 --> 0:26:25.719 that perhaps could be described as depictions of space ships 0:26:26.760 --> 0:26:28.800 if you think about it that way. What what is 0:26:28.840 --> 0:26:30.560 the name? It's on the tip of my tongue, the 0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:33.680 name of those ships, the via Manas. And I only 0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:37.719 remember that because I have watched von Dannikin's mouth on 0:26:37.800 --> 0:26:41.080 television say Viamna's many a time. 0:26:41.440 --> 0:26:44.040 I like the idea that you just watched his mouth. 0:26:44.560 --> 0:26:45.920 Well, I was trying to figure out what the heck 0:26:45.960 --> 0:26:56.040 he was saying. The what Viamana's what? Vimanas will take 0:26:56.080 --> 0:27:04.360 a quick break and be right back, and we've returned. 0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:08.800 Well, folks, we have to note that we have a 0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:13.480 lot to learn about people in the modern evening, and 0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:15.560 a lot to learn about people in the future and 0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:19.040 people in the past. It's fascinating. Just like the Sumerians 0:27:19.119 --> 0:27:23.960 to the Greeks, or Danakan Sitchen, or Judaism to Islam 0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:28.399 and Christianity. Indeed, you will find a lot of people 0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:33.440 have the same general starting points on the big questions, 0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:37.240 Capital B, capital Q. Likewise, we'll find a lot of 0:27:37.280 --> 0:27:42.400 people on every imaginable street corner of the Internet arguing 0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:46.360 they have discovered the truth about the Annaki, and keep 0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:50.480