1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: learn this stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio. 5 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, 6 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: my name is Noah. 7 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 3: They called me Ben. We're joined as always with our 8 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 3: super producer Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you 9 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 3: are you. You are here that makes this the stuff 10 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 3: they don't want you to know. Fellow conspiracy realist friends 11 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 3: and neighbors, we are joining you with a quite rare 12 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 3: and extraordinary three part series. We got so deep into 13 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 3: the conspiracy and the fact and the fiction surrounding something 14 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 3: called the ann that we just couldn't let it go 15 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 3: without getting into the aliens at least a little bit. 16 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. And we're talking about all this stuff when 17 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 2: there's such exciting information and new research coming out of 18 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 2: places across the world, in Japan and the US, places 19 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 2: that are checking out that Kuiper Belt looking for a 20 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 2: potential new planet that is yet to be discovered and observed. 21 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 2: And we're talking about stories about aliens coming from a 22 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 2: potentially planet like that. 23 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 3: Right now, nothing occurs in a vacuum, and certain poets 24 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 3: would argue that all things that rise must converge. 25 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, indeed, so why don't we join ourselves already in progress? 26 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 3: This belief, right, this ancient aliens thing is problematic because 27 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 3: it was used historically to just all sorts of hilariously 28 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 3: evil things. And it is true, to be fair that 29 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 3: human civilizations with stark technological differences have encountered each other 30 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 3: over the course of human history numerous times. In most cases, 31 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 3: the folks with any sort of advantage, be that guns, germs, 32 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:28,679 Speaker 3: or steel shout out to Jared Diamonds. Those folks will 33 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 3: tend to behave quite poorly and they will do extremely 34 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 3: unclean things to the other civilization. So we've got it. 35 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 3: We've done our you know, due diligence. Talking about the 36 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 3: problems with ancient alien theory, the main thing you have 37 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 3: to know is due to this sparse historical record of 38 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 3: Anunaki in general, there was an opportunity for modern authors 39 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 3: to reframe the anuw Noki myth and simply say, hey, 40 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:09,839 Speaker 3: this princely seed is all about extra terrestrials. And that's 41 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 3: where we meet. A guy named Eric Vaughan Danigan. 42 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. So while this had already been the subject of 43 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 4: some pretty fantastic science fiction, speculative fiction, cosmic horror at 44 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 4: the late nineteenth and early twentieth century, and you know, 45 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 4: there was some more journalistic exploration of the idea in 46 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 4: nineteen fifty four, specifically by Harold T. Wilkins and possibly 47 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 4: Emmanuel Velakowski, this idea hadn't really taken hold yet, and 48 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 4: didn't until nineteen sixty eight, when Danakin's breakout Peace Chariots 49 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 4: of the Gods made the bold claim that the world's 50 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 4: oldest religion, cratid not from the observance of the celestial bodies, 51 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 4: the observance of astronomical movement, or from the natural world itself, 52 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 4: but rather as a reaction to firsthand experience and contact 53 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 4: with an alien civilization. 54 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: Yes, gosh it what awesome it hits? 55 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 4: Really? 56 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 2: How tell yeah exactly that that's what that That's what 57 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: that does. And again, not from the stories that were 58 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 2: passed down, the tales that were used for teaching lessons 59 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 2: and controlling populations. No, it came from outer space and then, 60 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 2: and really what it does is just putting a different 61 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 2: lens on all of the ancient writing or inscription that 62 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: were recovered back then. Just he's just choosing to look 63 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 2: at a lot of the pictures and a lot of 64 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: the interpretations of you know, the various ways in which 65 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: some of these things, like the ancient muniform was translated. 66 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 2: And then as you said, the princely seed, Ben, that's 67 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 2: such a good way to get into this because you 68 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 2: can just use that and then well let's imagine if 69 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 2: you will, it's it means this instead, and I. 70 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 3: Will and we did. Yeah, and I love no, I 71 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 3: love that you're shouting out chariots of the gods because 72 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 3: the original title ends in a question mark, so. 73 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 4: He I should have put that in fassis on the Salabos. 74 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because again it's the it's the question at 75 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 2: the heart really, like are we saying when they write 76 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: when they say chariots of the gods? What are they 77 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 2: really saying chariots up there? Or are they just using 78 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 2: the word chariot to say some kind of craft in 79 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 2: the sky because they understand things that move as chariots like. 80 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 3: That, ohnt row So like the Akkadians, like the Assyrians, 81 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 3: like the uh No offense Americans. Uh Von Danakin is 82 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 3: leaning into just what you described there, Matt interpretations arguably 83 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 3: cherry picked passages of ancient carvings, passages of you know, 84 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 3: like Nakamadi, Red Sea, Sorry Dylan, and you know old 85 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 3: Testament things boss reliefs that appear to depict flying craft 86 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 3: or larger entities in a drawing compared to a smaller 87 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 3: what we assume to be a human being. And maybe 88 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 3: sometimes those larger giants have wings or horns or whatever. 89 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 3: Eric von Dannikin was formative to our show, Just be 90 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 3: absolutely honest. He wrote a bunch of stuff about this. 91 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 3: His main argument is that certain constructions require a more 92 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 3: sophisticated technological and what was available to people, to Homo 93 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 3: sapiens at the time. So he's the guy who really 94 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 3: lights the fire under or popularizes the idea of Rapa Nui, 95 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 3: a Stonehenge, the Great Pyramid, the Bagdak batteries, all that 96 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 3: stuff being somehow informed by an extraterrestrial either pre human 97 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 3: or non human sentient species. And then he also argued 98 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 3: that ancient art and iconography proves this true. And so 99 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 3: he sees, you know, he's like, ah, this thing is 100 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 3: flying around. There was an ancient nuclear war in what 101 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 3: we call South Asia today, Right, there are great sins 102 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,679 Speaker 3: committed by people. And if we look at all modern 103 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 3: religions in the seed of this telephone style folklore style, 104 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 3: we can find the proof of what happened. And he 105 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 3: raises a good point in we have to give it 106 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 3: to him. Vondannakan raises a good point where he says, look, 107 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 3: if ancient people, ancient Homo sapiens encountered this kind of thing, 108 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 3: they would naturally through their cultural framework, assume those were 109 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 3: gods watchers in some religions, nephelip. 110 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 2: As you said, it would be the lens that they 111 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 2: would see that through. Right, And then how do you 112 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 2: how do you write something like that down? You create 113 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 2: the things that were found, You represent them perhaps as 114 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 2: larger or different than you. They're similar to us, but 115 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 2: they look a little different in the way they're depicted. 116 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 2: You could see the reasoning, right, and you can see 117 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 2: the exciting concept that's there. And and Vondanakan is not 118 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 2: the only person We're going to talk about a few 119 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 2: other people who who around this time are thinking about 120 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 2: this stuff and doing their own interpretations, doing their own 121 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 2: sometimes translations. Because there are a few people that actually 122 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 2: begin to learn how to translate this ancient kuneiform, this 123 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 2: Sumerian text, or at least they say that they have, 124 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 2: and they do study. There are people who are studying 125 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 2: this and there, and let's just let's put some emphasis 126 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 2: on this. 127 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 4: Guys. 128 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 2: There are so few humans that could read some of 129 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 2: the Acadian stuff, some of the Assyrian stuff, some of 130 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 2: the especially the cuneiform and the Sumerian stuff. So few 131 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 2: people could actually do that. And I would say, on 132 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 2: this planet right now today, there's still a handful of 133 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 2: human beings that can really do that. Well, it is 134 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 2: rarefied air once you can put in all that work 135 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 2: to learn that stuff. Because really, I mean, why would 136 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 2: you unless you are extremely interested in proving some specific 137 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 2: history or you want to prove really badly that something. 138 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: There's another explanation for all. 139 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 3: Of this interesting And look, there are, if we're being honest, 140 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 3: which is the remit of our show, there are unanimous 141 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 3: objections from every single imaginable accredited scientist in any tangentially 142 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 3: related field to von Denikin's exploration. However, he is worth 143 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 3: our time to mention because his work caught the public interest. 144 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 3: So he's not the Tesla, but he is the Edison 145 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 3: and his work becomes further popularized. It enters the zeitgeist 146 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 3: because one of our patron saints, one of the Anunakias 147 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 3: stuff they don't want you to know. None other than 148 00:10:54,120 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 3: Rod Serling, the creator of Twilight Zone, also created this 149 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 3: true story, a documentary about Eric von Donikin's beliefs, and 150 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 3: that was syndicated across the United States. It was the 151 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 3: first time people heard it. It was promethean. It caught fire. 152 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 3: There was a film adaptation of his first book that 153 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 3: debuts in nineteen seventy and it's coming at just the 154 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 3: right time. 155 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: You know, the. 156 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 3: Cold War is here. There's a space race, right Like, 157 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 3: what better way to talk about aliens than to talk 158 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 3: about them while people are wondering about modern humans exploring space. 159 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, well humans are actively on television going to the moon. 160 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 2: Pretty cool, Like that's happening right now? What are we 161 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 2: going to find up there? It captures the imagination in 162 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 2: a way. Not many things have space, I mean, so 163 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 2: like thinking about other things that might be out there, 164 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 2: or how that could possibly be related to us as 165 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 2: a spcies that's doom. 166 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 3: Will pause here for a word from our sponsors and 167 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 3: be right back with more well ancient aliens, and we're back. 168 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 3: Humanity has always said one thing, how can I make 169 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 3: this about me? Right? Humanity looks at the moon and 170 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 3: says like, what is you know? Like, how is this 171 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 3: more about me? And this is where we get This 172 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 3: is where we get to authors like Zechariah Sitchen, and 173 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 3: David Ike. Full disclosure, we did interview David Ike many 174 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 3: years ago. In the past, we did not talk about this, 175 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 3: but where I would say, where like, you guys help 176 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 3: me on this because you're better at music than I am. 177 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 3: Where Eric von Danakin made like a typical for four 178 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 3: basic beat for a hip hop track. Sitchen comes in 179 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 3: and modifies the drums pal rhythms. 180 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, Matt's better drum terminology, but that could work. 181 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 2: What's that? There's a thing I'm gonna lose the name 182 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 2: of it. It's a very specific drum. I was gonna say, no, 183 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 2: it's it's a sampled thing. Amen break or no, maybe 184 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 2: that's wrong. It's there's a very specific drum sample that's 185 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 2: been sampled the most out of any of them. 186 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 4: Funky drummer. 187 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 2: What is it? 188 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 4: Well, it's James Brown Ike Doubblefield. Funky drummer is one 189 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 4: of the most sampled drum breaks. 190 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 2: I think that might be it. I think that might 191 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 2: be it. I was singing one whose I think it's 192 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 2: called Amen brother or something like that. But there's another one. 193 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 4: That's there's a break as well. 194 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 2: That's one that's the one thank you. 195 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 3: Okay, So that's like the Wilhelm scream of drumming. 196 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, they're just the idea that somebody made that 197 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 2: in a song contextually for that song, but then for 198 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 2: one reason or another, it ends up working even better 199 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 2: in this other song and that becomes even more popular, 200 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 2: and that you know, that group then becomes even more 201 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 2: prolific in terms of record sales back in the day. 202 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 203 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there's all kinds of interesting appropriations like 204 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 4: that in religion, for sure. M hmm. 205 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 206 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 3: So take us too with that analogy of God. I 207 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 3: trust falled so so hard on that one. I'm so 208 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 3: happy that worked out. So I didn't know that would work. 209 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 3: But then in that analogy, our buddy z Sitchen would 210 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 3: be that amen break, right, he was. 211 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 2: You talking Zechariah? 212 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 3: Oh, we're talking zach aryah. 213 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. 214 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. One of the most prolific influential authors on the 215 00:14:55,600 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 3: idea that the Annunaki are the ancient aliens reposed by 216 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 3: Eric Vaughan Danigan. So let's, uh, let's learn a little 217 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 3: bit more about him. 218 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 2: Oh yes, and as we're doing this, please head on 219 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 2: over to Sitchen dot com. That's s I T C 220 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 2: H I N dot god. Oh, it's a beauty of 221 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 2: a website. Check it out. It's really fun. I enjoy 222 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 2: this so much. He'll take you to the twelfth planet 223 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 2: and well beyond if you head on over there. It's 224 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 2: only one of the books he's written, and there are 225 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 2: a lot of them. 226 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, like don again before Sitchin created a series of 227 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 3: books that are wait for it, orbiting his beliefs, Dylan, 228 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 3: I am so sorry to Sitchin. The orbit here. The 229 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 3: ado Noak origin story is something he calls deburu in 230 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 3: I C I R you and he believes. Yeah, it's 231 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 3: a secret planet. And the reason it's a secret planet 232 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 3: is because it as an elongated elliptical orbit around Earth's 233 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 3: Sun and it takes about three thousand, six hundred years 234 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 3: to complete its circle, to complete its orbit. 235 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 2: Yes, and this is Sitchen's belief. Just remember that this 236 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 2: is his belief. He believed that planet existed, and he 237 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 2: believed that that is where these Anunakia originated. At one 238 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 2: point when that orbit was close enough to Earth. For 239 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 2: one reason or another, these Anunaki took off from that 240 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 2: planet and landed on Earth. Why because they needed Gold's 241 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 2: that's one of the major beliefs here. They needed gold. 242 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the weirdest thing because his book are his 243 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 3: first how did you put it in earlier's Breakout banger it? Yeah, 244 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 3: is the twelfth planet. He says, this story or this 245 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 3: narrative is readily apparent to anybody who has half their 246 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 3: Jimmy's about them when they're learning Sumerian mythology, culture and 247 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 3: the written record. And he also has a couple moments 248 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 3: where he's like, do you read knea form my guy? 249 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: Anyway? 250 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, much is made up by him about his skills 251 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 2: and training he's done on that kind of thing, and 252 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 2: you know how much of a leader he is in 253 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 2: that kind of translation and understanding, and you know, he, 254 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 2: like Danakin, has a ton of critics. Most I would say, 255 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 2: I would say it's very similar to the reaction to 256 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 2: Danik and stuff, because again, currently there's no there, at 257 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 2: least there has not been any way to prove anything 258 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 2: about this Nibru concept, and it's kind of wild. If 259 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 2: you look into it enough, you'll find that the concept 260 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 2: is the Aunaki came to Earth to get gold, and 261 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 2: a lot of the Anunaki, because there were many of them, 262 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 2: didn't like doing the whole manual labor thing of mining 263 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 2: the gold out of the gold mines. So they wanted 264 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 2: to find a way to create some kind of creature 265 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 2: with the stuff around them that would mine the gold. 266 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 2: So they took some of the great apes that were 267 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 2: down there and some of the earth. 268 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 4: Great apes mining gold. Sorry, well, I suppose much like 269 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 4: that game. 270 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 2: The concept here is that these Anunaki, using their far 271 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 2: advanced technology, I mean they were able to take whatever 272 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 2: space faring craft from their planet to get to Earth, 273 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 2: they genetically engineered what we would consider Homo sapiens, at 274 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 2: least according to the story, right, and those human beings 275 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 2: were made to mine gold. And that's the whole like 276 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 2: from this standpoint, from this book, from this concept in 277 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 2: the beliefs of Sichion, that is how humanity came to be. 278 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 2: This other race came from Nibru. 279 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,479 Speaker 3: Right right, Yeah, this is very much in tune with 280 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 3: later folks. He's also inheriting a little bit from science 281 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 3: fiction that preceded him that was clearly fiction. In Inner 282 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 3: Buddy's's opinion, this civilization is super advanced despite or because 283 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 3: of their precarious elliptical orbit. And he says, look, these 284 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 3: folks that you're calling Anunaki or Nephelim or not quite gods, 285 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 3: but kind of lowercase g gods. If I can reference 286 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 3: chapter one, they showed up four hundred and fifty thousand 287 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 3: years ago as modern Homo sapes reckoned the calendar. And 288 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 3: like you were saying, Matt, they're not there to help things. 289 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 3: They're not the big deal capital g gods. They are 290 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 3: the worker bees. They're the blue collar lower g gods. 291 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 3: They are colonialists, right. They're looking for gold in kitchens writing, 292 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 3: And we have read these books page by page, folks, 293 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 3: and we still can't find a real defensible reason why 294 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 3: it would be gold in specific, other than light implications 295 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 3: that it's a ductile metal that helps with some sort 296 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 3: of interstellar or Neburian nice Neburian Neburian technology or resource desire. 297 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 3: But that's the thing. They're not the fancy boys. 298 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 2: No iroarchy. The way I think about though, I imagine seriously 299 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 2: humanity in like fifty years and our ability to you know, 300 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 2: go to different places if our technology continues the way 301 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 2: it is, and some of these new breakthrough ways of 302 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 2: propulsion and how to protect ships and these kinds of things. 303 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 2: It's all happening right now. Like, head on over to 304 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 2: Reddit slash our slash science and you're gonna you will 305 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 2: see right now crazy advances that are happening, stuff that 306 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 2: it didn't feel like it would happen for a while. 307 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 2: And just imagine that, and then us going to some 308 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 2: other planet because we need some more palladium or whatever 309 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 2: the heck, you know, precious metal in order to build 310 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 2: more things. And it weirdly makes sense, this whole story 311 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 2: of creating humanity or a race of workers on another planet, 312 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 2: because I think back to our discussions about the Moon 313 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 2: and Mars, and like, how will we actually build things 314 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 2: once we arrive to one of these places, rather than 315 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 2: sending raw materials and how expensive that would be, you 316 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 2: build with what's there. Right, logically, it would unformately work 317 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 2: out in weird ways. But again, the proof of any 318 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 2: of that it's non existent. It's it's all based on 319 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 2: beliefs and translations of some of these early early texts. 320 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 4: Yes. 321 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 322 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 3: And also the modern humans have not figured out how 323 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 3: to just date in a low gravity environment. 324 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 2: Mmmm, but we're figuring out, didn't the mice. Mice just 325 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 2: returned that we're born in space. 326 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 3: Also, we owe an apology to our buddy Brian Johnson, 327 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 3: the multi millionaire slowing aging process by bloodbagging his own son. 328 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 3: Recent research does show there's some there's some sand to 329 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 3: the idea. We're not co signing it. We're not doctors. 330 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: We are. 331 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 3: Entities with an interest in human blood. So Sichen also 332 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 3: argues there was descent in the ranks. These blue collar 333 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 3: urians are like oil workers, are like roughnecks. They're irritated, right, They, 334 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 3: like so many humans today, are laboring under unfair working conditions. 335 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 3: Their life sucks. We've got this manager inky that we 336 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 3: call aninochi lator, and he spearheads the creation of what 337 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 3: we're calling a slave species, the Homo sapiens. This creature 338 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 3: is created, per our buddy Zach by cross breeding the 339 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 3: existent extant Homo erectus with genetic material from the Anunaki. 340 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 3: So Samaria is created by the guidance of these folks 341 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 3: who are not super like Star Trek prime directive help 342 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 3: everybody type folks. Instead, they are gold hungry alien colonialists 343 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 3: and they've gone by creating humanity. And I know, god 344 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 3: native is a problematic term here. That's kind of what 345 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 3: Sitchen uses and that's why he says some people are 346 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 3: better than others because they have that god like DNA. 347 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, because some of these humans that they created, at 348 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 2: least scored in the story, were able to actually do 349 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 2: the communication. They were the middle managers between the people 350 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 2: that created them that needed the stuff and the people 351 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 2: the humans that were created that are actually in the 352 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 2: minds right, which is weird concept, but again, it would 353 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 2: work out really well to control the population if you 354 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 2: had some very specific humans that only they can talk 355 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 2: to the gods, right, sound. 356 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 4: Familiar, Red, I am the conduit. You need me, you 357 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 4: need me. 358 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 2: So if we go along with Sichen's idea that started 359 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 2: with the Twelfth Planet and continued on again through so 360 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 2: many books where there's other details, more complications, all kinds 361 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 2: of stuff that that gets lumped in there, theoretically all 362 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 2: of humanity, where humanity rose there in Mesopotamia came directly 363 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 2: from this genetic manipulation by these Anunaki, who were theoretically 364 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 2: aliens from a planet that comes by every thirty six 365 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 2: hundred years. I mean, yeah, sure, that's the thing. So 366 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 2: we all descended in this story. We all descended from 367 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 2: this occurrence, and things went pretty well for a while 368 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 2: until somehow there was some kind of ancient future war, 369 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 2: ancient war with future technology for us, but you know, 370 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 2: maybe older technology for a far advanced civilization. Something You 371 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 2: can imagine it like a nuclear war, but perhaps it 372 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 2: was other forms of weaponry used. I think it's described 373 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 2: as some kind of nuclear exchange. 374 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 3: Yes, And the references would also be found later in oil. 375 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 3: The interpretations of those references would be found later in 376 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 3: things like the Bahak of Abgita, the Obama Shad, all 377 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 3: the all the good hits, you know, all the recent 378 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:15,719 Speaker 3: pop culture stuff. 379 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. We we talked about that a lot, because those 380 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 2: are again interpretations of things that are in the sky 381 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,719 Speaker 2: that perhaps could be described as depictions of space ships 382 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 2: if you think about it that way. What what is 383 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 2: the name? It's on the tip of my tongue, the 384 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 2: name of those ships, the via Manas. And I only 385 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,719 Speaker 2: remember that because I have watched von Dannikin's mouth on 386 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 2: television say Viamna's many a time. 387 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 3: I like the idea that you just watched his mouth. 388 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 2: Well, I was trying to figure out what the heck 389 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 2: he was saying. The what Viamana's what? Vimanas will take 390 00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 2: a quick break and be right back, and we've returned. 391 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 3: Well, folks, we have to note that we have a 392 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 3: lot to learn about people in the modern evening, and 393 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 3: a lot to learn about people in the future and 394 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 3: people in the past. It's fascinating. Just like the Sumerians 395 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 3: to the Greeks, or Danakan Sitchen, or Judaism to Islam 396 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 3: and Christianity. Indeed, you will find a lot of people 397 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 3: have the same general starting points on the big questions, 398 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 3: Capital B, capital Q. Likewise, we'll find a lot of 399 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 3: people on every imaginable street corner of the Internet arguing 400 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 3: they have discovered the truth about the Annaki, and keep 401 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 3: in mind, often that truth is more like the interpretation 402 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 3: that best serves them. No, Matt, I think it's important 403 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 3: for us to note that these people we're describing, they're 404 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 3: not all out to dwindle you or built you. There 405 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 3: are a ton of folks who genuinely believe their own 406 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 3: discoveries as they would put it, their own realizations. As 407 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 3: long as they're not hurting anyone else, I say, they 408 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 3: should be free to believe as they wish. 409 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 4: I completely agree. There are also folks who are true believers, 410 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 4: and that makes them all the more dangerous. But very 411 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 4: much to your point, Ben, it's all about what you 412 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 4: do with that belief, and if it's a way to 413 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 4: achieve personal enlightenment, or you have a way of guiding 414 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 4: your life and focusing positive energy, I am all for 415 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 4: whatever you want to believe. However, in history we often 416 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 4: see the folks that are the truest believers I have 417 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 4: the most power often recavoc on those who do not 418 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:47,479 Speaker 4: believe the same thing that they do. 419 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 2: Imagine how powerful this concept would be if you're first 420 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 2: stumbling on it and there isn't somebody like fondank in 421 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 2: Incision out there writing about it, This concept of maybe 422 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 2: these things depicted are aliens? What if they are? And 423 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 2: then you begin looking and you start to see stuff 424 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 2: that feels like it's reinforcing this belief, or it feels 425 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 2: like you're finding proof, So you continue down that rabbit hole. 426 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 2: You keep going and keep going. Now there are people 427 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 2: around you that want to believe this idea that you're 428 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 2: cooking up. And I just imagine that, I imagine that scenario 429 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 2: for a lot of these humans that have been writing 430 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 2: about this stuff and researching it and wanting to believe 431 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 2: it so badly, and then also finding a way to 432 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 2: make money on it, writing books, being on television, you 433 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 2: know that kind of thing. It makes so much sense 434 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 2: to me why anyone could get go down that rabbit 435 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 2: hole of research and why anyone would be intrigued by 436 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 2: the concept. 437 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 3: M M, I agreed. You know what we are saying 438 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 3: is there's this is perfect fodder, This is fertile soil 439 00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 3: because there is a true historical record right documented, but 440 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 3: there are a lot of gaps in that record. So 441 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 3: it allows people to, with good intentions or bad intentions, 442 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 3: insert their own agenda into the story. And now that 443 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 3: you guys are spinning it to me this way, I 444 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 3: would love to hear like a sports or tech bro 445 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 3: podcast from ancient Sumeria where they're like, Uh, what Bro, 446 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 3: it's me your boys Asura. We got this crazy dude. 447 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 3: You know him, you love them Inky, He's coming here. 448 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 3: He's got some uh, he's got some wet wet dude. 449 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 3: What's going on with this flood? 450 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 4: Oh? 451 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 2: Man, men, so stop doing that. The flood is to 452 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 2: punish you. You are bad. 453 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 3: Yeah for sure. This is brought to you by our 454 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 3: friends at Cozy Arc. Uh subscribe. Now get to breeding 455 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 3: pair of animals you're choosing my guy? Uh also screw 456 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 3: Acadia anyway. 457 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, guys, we have to talk about really quickly. 458 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 2: Look up things in your own research. When you're thinking 459 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 2: about this stuff, look up stuff from the recent past. 460 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 2: Twenty fifteen, the University of Cambridge looking at the human 461 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 2: genome as it was, you know, it had been first sequenced. 462 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 2: They're really turned down into it. They find that there 463 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 2: are some weird things in the human genome one hundred 464 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 2: and twenty eight additional foreign genes in the human genome 465 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 2: that have not previously been reported. They found new stuff 466 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 2: where there appears to be horizontal gene transfer from stuff 467 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 2: like bacteria and fungus. Yeah, like, there's there are some 468 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 2: weird stuff going on in humanity's genome that makes this 469 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 2: kind of concept even more interesting. I think. So look 470 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 2: at that. Also, look at new stuff in the Kuiper 471 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 2: belt that we're find there are right now, there are researchers, 472 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 2: especially in universities, that are looking at the Kuiper Belt, 473 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,479 Speaker 2: trying to find stuff that's way way out there that 474 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 2: could potentially be another large planet on either a huge 475 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 2: orbit that's like beyond the Kuiper Belt or which didn't 476 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 2: seem feasible, or one that's on a crazy elliptical orbit 477 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 2: that humanity just has yet to discover because we didn't 478 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 2: have the telescopic technology to see. 479 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 3: It yet, not necessarily even a planet. Worry yourselves, not 480 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 3: with the nomenclature, folks, worry yourselves with the schedule, right 481 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 3: and the idea here. And I love that reference to 482 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 3: our earlier episodes on the mixtape that is modern Homo Sapiens. 483 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 3: Right now, your favorite big boy surveillance stuff can still 484 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 3: not entirely figure out all of the DNA for all 485 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 3: of what you call modern. 486 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 2: Human beings, which is called DNA. 487 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,719 Speaker 3: Sure, thanks, and I'm not offended. I choose not to 488 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 3: be offended. Things like me slip through the cracks and 489 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 3: maybe thousands of years in the future, this podcast will 490 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 3: sound awesome. I also think, guys, we've got to do 491 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 3: another episode just about Burrow. We've got to do another 492 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 3: episode maybe about gut biome. That's where a lot of 493 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 3: the uh, your fun fun DNA is coming in, by 494 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 3: the way. 495 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 2: Where a lot of your u the control of your 496 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 2: body comes from. 497 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 3: Apparently, Oh, give them the jimmies, man, give them Jimmy's. 498 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 3: So what about this? Why don't we end it with 499 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 3: this concept? Depending on where you find yourself right now, 500 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 3: you specifically you, whether you are online or you are 501 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 3: what do we say, I R L we do? What 502 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 3: is that one? 503 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 4: In real life? 504 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 2: Oh? 505 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 3: Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, in real life, you'll run 506 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 3: in to any number of competing, contradictory attempts to sort 507 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 3: of recontextualize stuff you heard before. It could be something 508 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 3: as innocuous as tracing the long game of telephone and 509 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 3: religious syncretism, you know, Mithra to Jesus Christ. Whatever. It 510 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 3: could be something as dangerous as spinning a story to 511 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 3: rationalize and normalize real world violence against innocent people. So 512 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 3: let's say this. The real truth about spirituality is it 513 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 3: is a trip. You and only you are in the 514 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 3: driver's seat. Like any other trip, your mileage may vary. 515 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 3: That is the stuff they don't want you to know. 516 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 3: We'd love to hear your thoughts if you are human 517 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 3: and not be a bot. Somewhere in between. Find us online, 518 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,439 Speaker 3: call us on a telephone, send us a good old 519 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 3: fashioned email, avoid rights back. 520 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, do you think we could make there could be 521 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 4: like an onnak chatbot. That sounds like a great idea, 522 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 4: doesn't it. Do you think people are eventually gonna start 523 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 4: worshiping Ai? We've talked about this. I think it was 524 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 4: that exact same question. Yeah, kind of creepy. Let us 525 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 4: know what you think about that. You can find us 526 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 4: the handle conspiracy stuff where we exist on Facebook, where 527 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 4: we have a Facebook group. Here's where it gets crazy. 528 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,760 Speaker 4: On x fka, Twitter, and on YouTube with video content 529 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 4: galore for YouTube, bow down to the internet, on Instagram 530 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 4: and TikTok. However, we are conspiracy Stuff. 531 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 2: Show you talking YouTube to me? Okay, hey, if you 532 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 2: want to call it, Hey, there you go. If you 533 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 2: want to call us, our number is one eight three 534 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 2: three st d w y t K. When you call in, 535 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 2: give yourself a cool nickname and let us know within 536 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 2: the message if we can use your name and message 537 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 2: on the air. If you'd like to say something with words, 538 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 2: maybe with links or an attachment. We got an email. 539 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 3: We are the entities that read piece of correspondence we received, 540 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 3: being well aware yet unafraid. Sometimes the void writes back, 541 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 3: as several of us know. Actually the void is writing 542 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 3: back more and more often. Could it be that God 543 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 3: was an extra terrestrial? What do we mean when we 544 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,720 Speaker 3: say that heaven is in the clouds? From Jesus Christ 545 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 3: to Elvis Presley, every culture tells us of high flying 546 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 3: bird men who zoom around the world creating magnificent works 547 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,720 Speaker 3: of art, et cetera, et cetera. 548 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: That is a. 549 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:54,919 Speaker 3: Direct quote from Eric von Dannekt Conspiracy at iHeartRadio dot com. 550 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 2: Stuff they Don't Want You to Know is a production 551 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 2: of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from my heart Radio, visit 552 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to 553 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:09,320 Speaker 2: your favorite shows.