1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: H John Annik and Kenny Florian podcast, John Annick and 2 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: Kenny Florian. 3 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 2: I love him. 4 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 3: I can't get enough of him. 5 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 4: Big job fund out. 6 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 2: There are a couple of absolutely self involved. 7 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 1: You're your hosts, John Anick and Kenny Florian. 8 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 4: I mean, if I knew we were getting Ray Longo 9 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 4: dancing to the Last Garden Rap, we would lead every 10 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 4: show with you. But yes to the listeners out there, 11 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 4: when we make you wait until Thursday, of course we'd 12 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 4: leave the show at the star of the program, Ray Longo, 13 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 4: Raymond ken Flow, Good day to you. How we feeling? 14 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 2: Beautiful day in New York. 15 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 5: Man, It's November and I was outside, no shirt on, 16 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 5: just a Perry shorts. Seventy degrees beautiful, beautiful day in 17 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 5: New York. 18 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: Beautiful. 19 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 6: Get the ladies to flock all raight. 20 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's flock away, but. 21 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 4: Right right right, the smell either has them flock away. 22 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 4: But I tell you, Raymond, I mean, I don't know 23 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 4: what time it is. It's actually eleven fifty nine am Eastern. 24 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 4: Good to have everybody with us, Thursday, November seventh. It's 25 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 4: twenty twenty four, Episode five twenty three of the Anaky 26 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 4: Florian Podcast Raymond. You sound like you're outside ripping a 27 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 4: lung dart. You sound fantastic. 28 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 5: Wow, a lung dart that hell is as a dirt stick. 29 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, you have to bring that up. 30 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, unbelievable dirt stick. 31 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, it is a good time to bring up lung 32 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 4: darts when it is protests fight week. Can't flow. I 33 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 4: mean that man knows his way around a cigarette, does 34 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 4: he not? I mean does he not? Absolutely? He's like, 35 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 4: I have so much of an advantage. 36 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 7: I'm gonna smoke a cig before I go out there 37 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 7: and beat someone's ass. 38 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, hilarious. 39 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 2: Wait does he smoke? 40 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 4: He smoked cigarettes? 41 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 8: Man? 42 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 2: He smoking? What's funny? 43 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,399 Speaker 9: Supposedly I had a kid in a gym who had 44 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 9: great cardio, great cardio, and then one day I walk 45 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 9: into I come to the Chimney's outside smoking a cigarette. 46 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, what the hell are you doing? 47 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 5: But you didn't, he goes, You didn't know I smoke, 48 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 5: So I don't know some people, I guess it just 49 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 5: doesn't effect. 50 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, those lungs, man, open up those lungs right, set 51 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 4: a little smoke down in them. You know, supposedly a 52 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 4: very recuperative organ. More medical stuff coming up. Later from 53 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 4: can Flow. So I did notice a tweet this morning. 54 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 4: I don't know what you call it now X dot 55 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 4: com a post from at Kenny Florian on X Oh. Yeah, well, 56 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 4: hey man, hey, you push this out to your hundreds 57 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 4: of thousands of followers so I can bring it. 58 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: He hit a home room with the crypto. That's what happened. 59 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 4: Oh, I mean, I think I buried the lead. Let 60 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 4: me just go out of my Gemini app. May this conversation, 61 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 4: but no, Ray, here's the post from ken Flow on 62 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 4: X today, and here's what it is. ESPN, You're worth 63 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 4: billions of dollars. Make a streaming app that works. 64 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 6: Oh wow, John, you know I get up. I'm up 65 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 6: at like you know what, four thirty five in the morning. 66 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 7: I'm gonna do my research for the Anak and Florian podcast. 67 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 6: I get up. 68 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 7: I'm on ESPN. I got it on my laptop, so 69 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 7: it was on my laptop. But I have issues on 70 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 7: my phone. I have issues on my television, and I'm 71 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 7: watching some fights and about minute two minutes in, all 72 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 7: of a sudden, it cancels. 73 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 6: It just shuts off and I go I go back again, 74 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 6: same thing. I can't do my research. 75 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 8: It just keeps. 76 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 7: Shutting off on the damn app. I'm like, come on, man, 77 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 7: and this is like a regular thing. Come on, I 78 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 7: think they have a bunch of money. 79 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 4: Fix the app. 80 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 10: You guys get money by people watching sports. You want 81 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 10: them to watch sports. Keep it going. 82 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 4: I don't know what it is about kenflow. I don't 83 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 4: know if it's the bitcoin apps that are on your 84 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 4: phone they are looting things up, or what it is kemflow, 85 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 4: But you're right, yeah, perpetual issues for kempflo. I had 86 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 4: issues on Saturday night. I mean the UFC application with 87 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 4: your friend, but certainly live I was having some issues 88 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 4: with that ESPN application. Hopefully they nip that in the 89 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 4: bud Raymond. So where are you watching these fights on 90 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 4: Saturday night for Brandon Moreno and Amir al Bosi? I mean, 91 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 4: you know, out to dinner right, You're home watching these fights? 92 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 2: Uh No. 93 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 5: I was actually at a wedding that night, so I 94 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 5: had to come home and watch them when I got home, 95 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 5: and unfortunately my app didn't cut out, so I was 96 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 5: able to watch the untill like two in the morning 97 00:04:58,279 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 5: and whatever. 98 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 2: So I probably don't remember anything. 99 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 4: So what exactly do you do and not do at 100 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 4: a wedding. Ray, do you dance? 101 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 11: No? 102 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 4: Do you eat? 103 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 2: Yes? 104 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 4: All right, just name one thing you ate at the 105 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 4: wedding that tasted good and one thing that tasted not good. 106 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 2: Oh so they had some desserts. I wouldn't even know 107 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 2: what to call them, but they that was good. 108 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 4: Okay, what did you like? Obviously? I mean, if you're 109 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 4: going straight to the dessert. 110 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 2: You know it's funny. I'll tell you this is my friends, right. 111 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 5: So I'll tell a guy because I was at a 112 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 5: fortieth birthday party the Hare like ten years ago. So 113 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 5: I said, look, I'm at the riviera, and the guy goes, 114 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 5: this is the text I get back. They wrapped their 115 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 5: salad in plastic at ten am in the morning. Who 116 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 5: the hell where are you getting this info from? But 117 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 5: I tell you, the salad tasted like it was wrapped 118 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 5: in plastics. 119 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: He might be right. 120 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 5: I go to get and the guy lives in the area, 121 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 5: so I don't know where he got his info, but 122 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 5: it was right. But shout out to Joey Rocky who 123 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 5: got married. Good friend of mine, her outstanding Rocky is 124 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 5: the best man. We used to do, uh accounting. I 125 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 5: go way back, We go way way back. At a 126 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 5: lot of funny stories we could get into some time, 127 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 5: but you know, maybe. 128 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 4: Not now, Yeah, maybe not now. Just stay off the uh, 129 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 4: off the south. So it looks like you were out 130 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 4: and about today. You got a U cup of coffee 131 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 4: to go, No cole Brew today, Raymonds just going. 132 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 8: With that. 133 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 2: BM bum down to DCAF. I gave up caffeine. 134 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 4: Wow right, he replaces them with Nicko Tine right earlier 135 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 4: today A good We have a lot of things to 136 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 4: get into today, but before we get into the mixed 137 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 4: martial arts stuff. As some of you may know, our 138 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 4: UFC Live production team lost oh Man, a giant, a 139 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 4: gentle giant to be sure. But Derek Thompson, one of 140 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 4: our good friends Kenny and I worked with him at 141 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 4: ESPN way back in the day. Best friend of our 142 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 4: executs to producer, Zach Candido, passed away totally unexpectedly at 143 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 4: thirty nine years of age in Las Vegas, and many 144 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 4: of us were just with him in Abu Dhabi. My 145 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 4: last interaction with him was at Power Slap. He has 146 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 4: been a longtime supporter of me and of Ken Flow. 147 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 4: We had just sent him four T shirts from the 148 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 4: Anak and Florian podcast. Actually at his request, including the 149 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 4: Ken Flow Wolverine one. He was just always such an encourager. 150 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 4: I played on a rec basketball team with him and 151 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 4: Zach in Connecticut back in the day when we were 152 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 4: all working at the ESPN, and Derek had played college 153 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 4: hoops ken Flow at Bridgewater State University, so he was 154 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 4: our best player. And I loved just watching him light 155 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 4: it up. And he was understated, you know, not the 156 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 4: most outspoken guy. But you know, Zach and others did 157 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 4: a lot too, I think, sort of surface his personality 158 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 4: and just a nice, nice man, and I think for 159 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 4: a lot of us, Kenny, I know when I gave 160 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 4: you the news, it hit you particularly harshly. I don't know, man, 161 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 4: just still did this awful, awful news in this harsh 162 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 4: world in which we live. 163 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 6: One hundred percent. 164 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 7: Man, it's more of a reality now as we get older, 165 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 7: I guess, and seeing our friends and people that we 166 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 7: know pass away. Man, it's it's never easy. And Derek 167 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 7: was one of those guys. He and he followed us 168 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 7: over to Fox right. He was over at Fox and 169 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 7: while I was there, and the words that came to 170 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 7: mind when I think about him is gentle, giant. 171 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 6: He was a really big dude. 172 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 7: He'd loved jiu jitsu, he'd love sports, but he loved 173 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 7: mma in particular. I really would enjoy the conversations that 174 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 7: I would have with him because he was very quieted, 175 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 7: as you mentioned, but you know, his eyes would light 176 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 7: up anytime fighting would come up, and he'd have a 177 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 7: question for me, or he'd talked about jiu jitsu and 178 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 7: how he was planning on competing or doing this or 179 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 7: doing that. 180 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 6: And we knew a lot of. 181 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 7: The same people that he would train with, and he 182 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 7: will be missed. 183 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 8: Man. 184 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 6: He was one of those guys that just really was 185 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 6: a very very kind soul. And yeah, that was that 186 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 6: was hard to hear. 187 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 2: Man. 188 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, but I didn't know Joe, but thirty nine is 189 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 5: just wow, that's way too young man, that's young. 190 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 2: That do you mind if I asked how we pissed? 191 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 2: Do we know? 192 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 4: So we don't know at this point in time, and uh, yeah, no, that's. 193 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 5: Just that's just too too fucking young man. It's something's off. 194 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, Kenny, you mentioned sort of some of 195 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 4: the training partners in Fabricio comoish you know Merango out 196 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 4: there and uh in southern California. Yes, was a guy 197 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 4: that he trained under for a long time, and uh, 198 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 4: you know, we're not for concerns about CTE and things 199 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 4: like that and perhaps getting a relatively late started martial arts. 200 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 4: There were a lot of us that would have loved 201 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 4: to have seen Derek in a mixed martial arts capacity. 202 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 4: Just massive hands and really just had a good frame 203 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 4: for mma Kenny, really long arms. I mean, I gotta 204 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 4: think it's an eighty inch or so reach, if not 205 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 4: even longer than that, never mind what he could have 206 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 4: done in fucking power slap. So to my dear friend 207 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 4: Derek Thompson, whom I affectionately referred to as d Rock, 208 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 4: and to the Candido family, you know, this hits me 209 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 4: particularly hard because of Zach and my kinship with Zach 210 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 4: and Zach's children, particularly his eldest son Miles. I mean, 211 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 4: Derek was an uncle on so many levels, right, So 212 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 4: I just think about that family, and there is a 213 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 4: GoFundMe page for Derek's mom, Gail, and if anybody wants 214 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 4: to support, we'd certainly appreciate that. All right, let us 215 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 4: get into some other matters at hand. Headlines is brought 216 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 4: to you by Quervo. Now's a good time to enjoy 217 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 4: the tequila that invented tequila. So a lot of different 218 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 4: directions in which we out of ten main events, unable 219 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 4: to make the walk for his first title defense, which 220 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 4: was just four plus months after the rest helt away 221 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 4: from Leon Edwards bone infection in his foot had put 222 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 4: a pickline in his arm for IVY antibiotics that'll be 223 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 4: in there for forty days or so, six weeks, no 224 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 4: physical activity and for bla mohobbin. Let's just hope that 225 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 4: he falls in line with that imperative no physical activity. 226 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 4: But Kenny and Ray, it's osteo my lightest and if 227 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 4: this is not treated correctly, really problematic. But Ray, you know, 228 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 4: the guy nearly lost his toe, and you know, hopefully 229 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 4: he returns to health. And I think in the case 230 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 4: of an athlete like this, hopefully he doesn't rush it 231 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 4: because with respect my friend, I feel like that's kind 232 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 4: of his nature. 233 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, well that that would be a really big mistake 234 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 5: to rush something like that, because some of these things 235 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 5: like that, they don't they don't go away that easy. Man, 236 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 5: It's not I had a kid one time and he 237 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,599 Speaker 5: got a bone infection before his first fight and he 238 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 5: never I'm not saying this do is a weird thing, 239 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 5: but like he never even fought, he never even recovered 240 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 5: from that, and he was a young kid. But you know, 241 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 5: you got to really really be like you said, you 242 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 5: got to be careful. And as much as antibiotics, you know, 243 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 5: they do have their place, man, he's just you know it, 244 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 5: that's a lot. He's one hundred percent has to be careful. 245 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 5: And I wouldn't rush that at all. 246 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, one hundred percent. 247 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 7: I've never had a bone infection that is much more 248 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 7: serious where it's threatening, you know, that particular limb, but 249 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 7: I have had it, and you know, I've had massive 250 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 7: skin infections and my knee and my elbow and elsewhere, 251 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 7: and those are never fun to begin with. But yeah, Ray, 252 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 7: I think the other thing to consider is the antibiotics 253 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 7: that you take. It's like, okay, even if you are 254 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 7: solving it or trying to solve it with your antibiotics, 255 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 7: your body is also kind of going through help fighting 256 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 7: that thing as well. And I've fought with antibiotics and 257 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 7: I've had some bad performances because of it. You think 258 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 7: you're fine, and you will, you know, your will kind 259 00:12:58,880 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 7: of gets you through it. 260 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 6: But your body's not going to be to one. 261 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 7: Hundred percent oftentimes, and unfortunate for Blal, who has been 262 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 7: an absolute road warrior for the UFC, has stepped up 263 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 7: on many occasions, unable to do so here, and unfortunate 264 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 7: for him as he was approaching his first title defense. 265 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 4: So sometimes this condition can require amputation of the infected 266 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 4: joint to prevent further spreading. The pick line oftentimes used 267 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 4: in chemotherapy and often inserted into a vein in the 268 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 4: upper arm, threaded into some sort of vein near the heart. 269 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 4: So that's going to be in for a while. And yeah, 270 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 4: you just hope for the best because certainly if that 271 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 4: toe were to be compromised, you know, so too would 272 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 4: I think part of his game and career, you know. So, 273 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 4: we wish our dear friend Balah Muhammad nothing but the best, 274 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 4: and of course, arguably the classiest man at MMA was 275 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 4: to be first time titled challenger Shavkott Rochmanov, who immediately 276 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 4: on social media you know, was toasting to Blaal's health. 277 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 4: In terms of Shavkot Rockmanov can flow seemed as though 278 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 4: he would have liked an interim title defense on December seventh. 279 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 4: We sit here live Thursday, November seventh, and thanks to 280 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 4: everybody for joining us live today on YouTube. Kenny, I'm 281 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 4: not sure that that is going to happen. We have 282 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 4: a high profile welterweight made event now December fourteenth between 283 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 4: the and Mashado, Gary and Joaquin Buckley, Jack Dela Matdalena 284 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 4: seemingly is still on the men Colby Covington now is 285 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 4: campaigning publicly for a fight with him. But Kenny, a 286 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 4: lot of different things go into interim title fights, you know. 287 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 4: I mean, I know largely I am pro interim championship fights. 288 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 4: I don't think it's a big deal for Blal if 289 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 4: one were to happen here, But I do think there 290 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 4: is some promotional appetite to preserve this main event between 291 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 4: Balal and Shafcap because I think, Kenny, they think it's 292 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 4: a good, viable, valuable, potentially marketable fight. 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I think anytime you're looking past maybe six months, 311 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 7: six to eight months, that timeline away from where the 312 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 7: title fight would have been, that maybe kind of justifies 313 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 7: an interim belt or something, especially if there's a lot 314 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 7: of uncertainty about the return of someone like the Law. 315 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 7: I think he'll definitely be back within that timeframe. And 316 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 7: you know, it was a great fight that I was 317 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 7: really looking forward to. So that's unfortunate for both men. 318 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 7: I know they were both looking forward to it as well. 319 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 7: And yeah, I guess we're gonna have to kind of move. 320 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 4: On a little bit. So it's interesting in terms of 321 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 4: these interim championships, Ray, right, because in one breath, blow 322 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 4: could be like, why an interim I just won the 323 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 4: belt on July twenty seventh. But correct me if I'm wrong, Ray, 324 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 4: If Shavkott Rochmanov is the interim champion when he and 325 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 4: Balal fight, and certainly there is risk, right that maybe 326 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 4: Shapcott wins the interim championship in an absolute war and 327 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 4: then you're trying to do him in bloal and you 328 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 4: have to wait till International Fight Week twenty twenty five. 329 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 4: I understand that inherent risk for Balal, but would he 330 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 4: not potentially make more money champion versus champion? I guess 331 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 4: I just don't see a ton of downside. I don't 332 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 4: love in terms of the calendar quickly anointing or crowning 333 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 4: an interim champion as we show you some of the 334 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 4: viewer discretion advised Immatur on the side of Balao Mohammed's toe. 335 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 4: But Ray to me, I don't see a lot of 336 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 4: downside If you wanted to bolster a per view with 337 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 4: an interim welterweight championship fight, at least from blows standpoint, 338 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 4: do you uh okay? 339 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 5: You cut out for a minute. But as far as 340 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 5: the interim title, I mean, look, if you can. 341 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 2: That is that the toey's good, that's it. That was him. 342 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, But anyway, I didn't hear everything he said, but 343 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 5: I got the gist of it. 344 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: Uh. 345 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 5: I'm not a big fan of the interim titles, but 346 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 5: you're right. If you can make more money and it 347 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 5: could be done on a timely basis, then I'll agree 348 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 5: with you. But I just think psychologically, the guy won 349 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 5: the title in July, you got to give him a 350 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 5: chance to recover. I mean, it's I think it would 351 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 5: just be jumping the gun way too soon, and I 352 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 5: think psychologically it's not good for Balal, you know, like 353 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 5: you know, he struggled to get the shot, then he 354 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 5: won the shot, then they're gonna take it away from 355 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 5: I Personally, I don't like it, you know, I think 356 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 5: give him a chance to heal it. If if somewhat 357 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 5: the doctors come back and say, look there's a year. 358 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 2: And a half, yeah, then you then you do the 359 00:17:59,040 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 2: interim title. 360 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 5: But if it's a matter of four or five months, 361 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 5: you got to give the guy the shot to do it. 362 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 5: And I don't think the money, I'm not Oh, I 363 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 5: don't think the money would change Champ against Champ because 364 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 5: I don't know they didn't even Blao's got to get 365 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 5: a chance to get rolling as the champion. 366 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 2: I just I don't. I personally don't like it. 367 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,360 Speaker 4: I think that's a great take in Kenny psychologically, there 368 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 4: is a component there right in terms of maybe not 369 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 4: undercutting a champion as his reign begins. I guess I 370 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 4: just don't necessarily see it that way. But they were 371 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 4: trying to in short order turn Balal around because this 372 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 4: UFC three to ten fight card maybe at one point 373 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 4: was here Mark for Connor MacGregor and Michael Chandler needed 374 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 4: a main event. So Kenny psychologically, do you think there's 375 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 4: anything there in terms of maybe blal and not wanting 376 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 4: to sort of undercut him, so to speak. If you're 377 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 4: the promoter, you know, I'm not. 378 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 7: Sure I see it that way necessarily think that for Ballall, 379 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 7: I don't think it matters. I think if you told Ballall, hey, 380 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 7: this complete two more money, he'll say. 381 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, go ahead and bring it, let's do it. 382 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 2: That's different. 383 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 7: So yeah, So if it's advantageous to his pocketbook, then 384 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 7: uh pocket does he does he carry a pocketbook, not sure, 385 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 7: but his wallet's uh it's a purse, yeah, a sleep egg. Then, 386 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 7: you know, I think by all means bring it, you know, 387 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 7: let's do it. But I don't know, I think more 388 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 7: than anything else, it hurts the fight maybe in and 389 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 7: promotionally in that it delays Ballall Right. 390 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 6: Belall is a new. 391 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 7: Champion, maybe not so many people are onto Ballall and 392 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,479 Speaker 7: how good he really is. So having that level of 393 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 7: consistency I think is really advantageous for a fighter who's 394 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 7: making that name for himself, and Ballall wants to stay active. 395 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 7: So the fact that we're delaying that uh performers from 396 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 7: Ballall a little bit for people to kind of see 397 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 7: just how good he is again and again and again 398 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 7: might hurt a little bit. 399 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 5: So that's I just think he doesn't He's not one 400 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 5: of those guys to promotion is behind and pushing and 401 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 5: has out there, so that, like Kenny said, he's got 402 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 5: to get some momentum going where he could build like 403 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 5: a good following up. 404 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, I. 405 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 4: Bet, I don't know. I kind of I agree with 406 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 4: a lot of what you guys are saying, but I 407 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 4: kind of feel like them making the Ian Maschado Gary 408 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 4: Joaquin Buckley fight and seemingly not doing an interim welterweight 409 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 4: championship speaks to them getting behind Balaalen wanting to do 410 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 4: that fight with Shavcott and doing it while Shapcott is 411 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 4: undefeated as a challenger and not an interim champion. And 412 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 4: I do think in terms of the calendar, one thing 413 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 4: you know about Balwan, he's not supposed to sweat for 414 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 4: six to eight weeks. Best of luck keeping that guy 415 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 4: out of the gym for six weeks, Kenny. 416 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, he'd better be careful. 417 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 4: Well. 418 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 6: To your point, here's the thing. 419 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 7: Anytime you get something like a bone infection or these 420 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 7: massive infections that really affect you, you have to put 421 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 7: a pick inside your body. 422 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 2: You know. 423 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 7: I ran and hall Or has dealt with that, Damian 424 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 7: has dealt with that, some other people I know, And 425 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 7: it can really delay you a lot. So I think 426 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 7: this is kind of a hedge by the UFC to 427 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 7: put together this fight in case Blall can't fight for 428 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 7: another six months or so, because that is a possibility 429 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 7: with infections. Who knows that way, they have someone as 430 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 7: maybe a backup plan to fight for an interim belt. 431 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 7: So you know, I think the UFC is doing whatever 432 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 7: it can to protect itself, and rightfully so is a business. 433 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I that I agree with. 434 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 5: I think they're setting themselves up very nicely with the 435 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 5: Gary fight and the other guy, and yeah, that'll work 436 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 5: out really well. 437 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 4: Can I just quickly ask you Ray about Ian Mashadow 438 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 4: Gary and then we can move on to Brandon Moreno 439 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 4: and anything else you got before we uh ceremoniously let 440 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 4: you get on with the rest of your day. So 441 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 4: I pushed out these tweets a few days ago, back 442 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 4: to back, and I'm curious what you think. So I wrote, 443 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 4: Ian Mashado Gary is fifteen and zer coming off back 444 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 4: to back signature wins against the hard to beat Michael 445 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 4: venim Page and Jeff Neil. He is assuredly worthy of 446 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 4: a title shot, and yet here he is fighting down 447 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 4: in the rankings so as to headline the UFC show 448 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 4: in Tampa. Respect No. And then I wrote, I love 449 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 4: me some new MATSA. I'm an anabashed on the record 450 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 4: rocking Buckley supporter. He deserves this Ian Gary fight, but 451 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 4: it's about time Gary is acknowledged for repeatedly accepting tough fights, 452 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 4: never idling and keep it moving when higher rank guys 453 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 4: say no. And I understand that maybe for myriad reasons, 454 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 4: Ian Muscheidogary is a hard guy for the fan base 455 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 4: to get behind juxtaposed against a shof cut Rockmanov, And 456 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 4: some of that maybe has to do with the relative 457 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 4: quality of his wins, but Ray, in terms of Ian's 458 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 4: strength of schedule and the names on it and the 459 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 4: challenges that he has passed, he's every bit in my 460 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 4: mind as deserving as Shavcott rockmana of a championship fight, 461 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 4: and yet here he is fighting down in the rankings 462 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 4: and taking on a very risky, primed, primal fighter in 463 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 4: Joaquin Buckley. So I'm just trying to give credit to 464 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 4: the guy, whether he's the people's choice or not. 465 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 2: Ray, Oh, I think you he says one hundred percent right. 466 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 5: You know, he got Ian, you know, he's he's a 467 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 5: nice guy, but very outgoing, you know, you know, or 468 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 5: outspoken or wacky, whatever. 469 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 2: You want to say. 470 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 5: And then you got shavkaf who's just like quiet, like 471 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 5: he's like a quiet killer. He just goes in, does 472 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 5: his thing and comes out. So there's a there's a 473 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 5: total separation there So whoever, whatever personality you like, I 474 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 5: think that's the guy you're going with. But as far 475 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 5: as what you said with his signature wins, he's he's 476 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 5: right where he wants to be. 477 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 2: And if it wasn't rock Mono, if it's him fighting 478 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 2: for the title. 479 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 5: So I like what he's doing because he's staying busy, 480 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 5: and he's staying busy against a guy that's been looking 481 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 5: pretty good. So it's a championship mentality. If you believe 482 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 5: in yourself, you're going to have to fight these guys anyway. 483 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 2: Uh. And again, they might offer him more money, you know, 484 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 2: just to have that type of fight, and uh, that's all. 485 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 2: I think. It's all good. 486 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 5: But I think you're spot on with what you said 487 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 5: about him, and he definitely looked that whole group right 488 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 5: there deserves something. 489 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 2: So it's coming. So we'll see what happens with Balaal 490 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 2: and how quick he recovers. But yeah, Gary's at this point, 491 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 2: no joke, Caflow. 492 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I was gonna say, you know, Buckley's a 493 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 7: dangerous fight for anyone in that division. He has a 494 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 7: lot of momentum right now, you know, and not only 495 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 7: dangerous for your rankings, but dangerous for your health. This 496 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 7: guy can crack and Ian Maschado. Gary is another guy 497 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 7: who likes to stand up in trade. And you know, 498 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 7: I think not every fight is going to be perfect, 499 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 7: and not every fighter is going to be liked by everybody. 500 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 7: But you cannot knock or criticize what Gary has been 501 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 7: able to do in this very difficult UFC division. You know, 502 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 7: I think there was a point where he was taking 503 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 7: the right fights, smart fights, rightfully so but now he's 504 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 7: showing he's taking a lot of dangerous fights and proving 505 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 7: that he is a elite. So if he can get 506 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 7: by Buckley yet again, I think there's you know, not 507 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 7: a whole lot you can criticize it. At this point, 508 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 7: he'll be ready for a title shot in the very 509 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 7: near future. 510 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, I think they're doing the right thing with 511 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 5: all three of those guys. 512 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 4: So I think so too. I think that a Shavcott 513 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 4: Rock Monavi in the shadow Gary fight as undefeated fighters 514 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 4: for an interim championship would have made a lot of sense. Cody, 515 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 4: with respect, I know you wrote it's unfair to ask 516 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 4: two guys to fight for a title in six weeks. 517 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 4: Fight games unfair, Life's on fair We've seen many circumstances 518 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 4: in which guys and girls, men and women have had 519 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 4: to step up on short notice. I felt like that 520 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 4: fight would have made some sense. But I agree promotionally, 521 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 4: I think they're proceeding in the right way. But I 522 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 4: do think it's interesting and I didn't mean to belabor this, 523 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 4: but people just think it's an afterthought. What so Shavcott 524 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 4: Rockmanov fights Michael venam Page and just takes him down 525 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 4: and chokes him unconscious, right, as if like beating MVP 526 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 4: or finishing him is any sort of easy task for 527 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 4: beating Jeff Neil. I mean, is that not a better 528 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 4: win than Steven wonder Boy Thompson. I don't know. I 529 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 4: just I'm not thinking fan appeal. I love Shotcott rock 530 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 4: Modo if he gave me chocolates from Kazakhstan. He's the 531 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 4: fucking man, right, I'm talking straight meritocracy and Ian Gary 532 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 4: deserves his credit. Hey, Ray, before we let you go, 533 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 4: is there anything else on the uh on the front 534 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 4: of your mine? The frontal lobe? I mean some stuff 535 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 4: on Max Holloway potentially, and Dustin Poorier and Justin Getchee. 536 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 4: Who could be next? For those guys? Brandon Moraino looking 537 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 4: great in the main event. How was that fight that? 538 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 4: I mean we stopped the wedding talk? I mean, are 539 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 4: you a little bit lathered? Are you a little bit? 540 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 4: Are you a little bit lathered when you go back 541 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 4: to watch Brandon Moreno at one thirty am in the 542 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 4: morning or what? 543 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 8: No? No? 544 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 2: And I wasn't. I definitely wasn't. 545 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 4: Lad Sober as a judge Sober. 546 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 5: I was the designated driver at night. So I let 547 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 5: my wife drink and I just mingled, look at that. 548 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 5: Hey there you go, always stepping up to the plate. 549 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 4: Are you a star at these weddings? What is your 550 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,719 Speaker 4: star power at these weddings? Just be honest. 551 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 5: A little bit, yeah, a little bit, A little bit, 552 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 5: you know, it didn't out them, Yeah a little bit. 553 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 4: So were you the most famous person at the wedding? 554 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 5: I believe I believe I was, which is which is 555 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 5: not saying much, you know what I mean? 556 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 2: Oh man, I remember. 557 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,479 Speaker 7: We're going to turn that into a clip. Ray Longo 558 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 7: says he's most famous guy and wedding. We're going to 559 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 7: put that on social media. 560 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 5: You know, when Sarah won the title, we went to 561 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 5: some affair at like having on the Green I think 562 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 5: they were I don't know what the hell it was, 563 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,360 Speaker 5: but we were there and I'm looking around and they 564 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 5: had I think the artist Nimoy what's his name now, 565 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 5: the Leroy Neiman, Yeah, Leroy Neiman. Uh. And then they 566 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 5: had the guy from the Godfather, Carlos singing, and I'm like, dude, 567 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 5: you might be the most famous guy. He like, they 568 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 5: were trying to bring out some people, but they go, 569 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 5: this is actually pathetic. 570 00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 2: At this point. 571 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 5: It was one of the guy, I think Jay Black 572 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 5: from Jay and the Americans. I goes, Sarah, you're the 573 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 5: most famous guy here. This is incredible, but I don't know. Yeah, 574 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 5: so the wedding was I probably was, but it is 575 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 5: what it is. 576 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 4: What else we got, Well, now we're gonna let you 577 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 4: go after we get a few comments from you on 578 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 4: Brandon Moreno. But I'm just trying to think about who 579 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 4: was the most famous man or woman at my wedding. So, 580 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 4: I mean it was probably Kenny Floory and I'm just 581 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 4: trying to think about. Yeah, the late great Stephan Bonner 582 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 4: was there with a black eye, two weeks after he'd 583 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 4: want to fight. God blessed Stephan Bonner and his family 584 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 4: who else was there? I mean Chris Romano, who is 585 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 4: family from Blue Mountain State if you know that reference 586 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 4: was there, But yeah, I mean just fighters and media personalities. 587 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 4: Ryan Rossillo was there, showing up a few minutes before 588 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 4: the ceremony looking for socks in the pro shop. Yeah 589 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 4: so yeah, I think Kenfler is probably the most famous 590 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 4: person at my wedding, having fought for it. 591 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 2: No, wow, there you go. 592 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 6: Little Stepan's a little yeah, yeah, a little. 593 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 4: Oh do Steven fight for the title? 594 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 6: keV Well? 595 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 7: I oh shoot, wow the forest Griffin you know that's yea, 596 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 7: the whole Yeah, the Hall of Fame. 597 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, three times. 598 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 5: I'm going with John on this, Kenny, because the kids 599 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 5: got the kid that got married? Did say can we 600 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 5: take a picture? Because nobody believes I know you? Wow, 601 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 5: that's awesome they do now, and I hope they're not disappointed. 602 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 4: Never never, all right, we'll get you out of here 603 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 4: on this ray. So I don't know the extent to 604 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 4: which you ingested this UFC fight night. It sounds like 605 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 4: you came home from the wedding and immediately told your 606 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 4: lathered wife to go to bed by herself so you 607 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 4: could watch amir Al Bazi and Aaron Blanchfield. So what 608 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 4: was your biggest takeaway from the fight night? Was it Blanchfield? 609 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 4: Was that Moreno? Was it anything else? Man? 610 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 5: The Blanchfield fight was was really though. It was really good. 611 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 5: She had a really dig down deep manea and make 612 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 5: a decision to go forward. And that kid's definitely got 613 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 5: a winning mentality because that the last fight was kind 614 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 5: of a disappointment, and then to go off against somebody 615 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 5: like Rose for you, you know, after losing, I give 616 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 5: her a lot of credit. I think she was under 617 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 5: a lot of pressure. But when it came down to 618 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 5: dig in and start swinging with a great strike as 619 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 5: she did that where I think she was at a disadvantage, 620 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,719 Speaker 5: but she made it an advantage with just gritten you know, 621 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 5: determination and tenacity, and that's that's what I saw. And 622 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 5: then getting the takedowns and controlling the fight. Really great 623 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 5: comeback fight for her and both I like both of 624 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 5: those girls are absolute sweethearts and a credit to the sport. 625 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 5: But uh, I like Blanchfield, man, She's a young kid, 626 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 5: and again coming off a loss like that in front 627 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,719 Speaker 5: of her hometown in Jersey, I think I give her 628 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 5: a lot of cred that's a mentally strong girl. 629 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 4: Some of the best analysis you've given out in the 630 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 4: ten year history this podcast. We're coming up on our 631 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 4: ten year anniversary in April. You're absolutely right her hunger 632 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 4: let the dance. Why are you guys laughing at me? 633 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 4: I like it. You're right, You're right. That was great. 634 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 2: I mean, can I can I get like? 635 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 5: Can you send me like an itinerary for the podcast? 636 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 5: I don't have to just rip shit out of my asshole, 637 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 5: which I'm not good at. 638 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 2: I like to think about things a little bit. 639 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, am I getting a producer credit if 640 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 4: this thing ever wins an award? 641 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 2: Out of doubt? 642 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I do a rundown every week that I send 643 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 4: to everybody, And yes, I can go over topics and flow. 644 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 2: Well I get well, yeah, I get nothing. I've never 645 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 2: seen a rundown. 646 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 4: One that is well. Okay, so you can ask Cody. 647 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 4: I think you have the center of the fucking rundown. 648 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 4: Are you do have an electronic mail address? Do you 649 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 4: have an email address? I'm bad in every room I'm in. 650 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 4: It's ridiculous. I'm actually misunderstood. I'm serious. I'm glad you 651 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 4: guys think this is what else? 652 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 11: What? 653 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 2: Gord? 654 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 4: No, No, I have a couple of things, and then 655 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 4: we get No. We're gonna let you go in sixty seconds, 656 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 4: you know, and we'll be sure to get you the 657 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 4: questions in advance. Next, Can I ask my bitcoin question? 658 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 4: Or no? 659 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? 660 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 4: One d Yeah, Cody, Sam, be careful what you wish for, right, 661 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 4: make the fuck for this show, you know, Ray factor 662 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 4: fiction Bitcoin right now is over seventy six thousand. 663 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 2: I think that's got to be effect and I don't. 664 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 4: Want that's a fucking fact, canal is it not? Kenny though? 665 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 2: Kenny? Yeah, I sell everything, Kenny. 666 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly exactly. I think I think it's about it 667 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 6: should be about seventy six. So yeah, so we in there. 668 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 2: How was it? How was it today? The market yesterday 669 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 2: was fantastic? 670 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, the market, like my. 671 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 2: Was way up. 672 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 4: Well you are you? Are you in the bitcoin world, Raymond? 673 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 8: Or no? 674 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 2: Now, I'm not, actually not. I should have dabbled a 675 00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 2: little bit. 676 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 4: So I like to peel back the curtain a little bit. 677 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 4: I mean, can flow is very much the opposite, and 678 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 4: maybe that's the yin and yang that makes this podcast work. Right, 679 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 4: I'm an oversharer, right, I'll tell my kids how much 680 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 4: I spent on Taylor Swift tickets, and that is not 681 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 4: necessarily something you should be sharing with your kids. But 682 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 4: my father decorated accountant. He would never share money monetary 683 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 4: things with me at all. And I feel like they 684 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 4: don't necessarily teach this stuff in school. So it's like, yeah, Riley, 685 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,479 Speaker 4: if you want your kids to be able to go 686 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 4: to the Errors Tour, which I deemed as a parent 687 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 4: to be a once in a lifetime experience, you gotta 688 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 4: work for that. What do you think that costs? You know? 689 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 4: So yeah, So anyway, in terms of bitcoin, right, So, 690 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 4: the last time I bought it, I texted ken Flow 691 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 4: and it's like, hey man, right, and I have like 692 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 4: forty three different buys at many different prices, right, I 693 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 4: don't have a lot, but we got them. 694 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 8: Help. 695 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 4: So the last time I texted ken Flow, however, many 696 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 4: months ago, I was like, hey man, it's at sixty 697 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 4: one thousand, and I'm like, I'm fucking buying today, right, 698 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 4: And he's like, yeah, dude, Like I get it, and 699 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 4: it's at seventy six right now, and it's climbing Raymond 700 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 4: to the moon. You're looking for an emoji it's the 701 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 4: fucking rocket right there in your face. 702 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 2: I tell you sell it now, take the money and run. 703 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,439 Speaker 4: Now and now are gone on the moon. 704 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 6: Ray get your boom boots, get your boot boots. 705 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,879 Speaker 2: I should I should have bought it at twenty one, 706 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 2: you know. 707 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 5: I remember back in the gym it went from like 708 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,760 Speaker 5: twenty one down to fourteen at one point something. 709 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 2: Everybody was like, holy shit, this is horrible. 710 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:43,439 Speaker 5: And but now it's is that where it's at seventy one? 711 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 2: Wow? Look at Kenny right right, He's got it right 712 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 2: next to him, right in front of me. Yeah, I 713 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 2: think it's awesome. 714 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 4: All right, before we let you go, Brandon Moreno, great fight, 715 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 4: great performance. I really, uh I really do think on 716 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,240 Speaker 4: any given Saturday, he's still as good as anyone twenty 717 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 4: five in the world. Aleschandre Pantosia is such a unique challenge. 718 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 4: I really don't know how a human weapon ever puts 719 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 4: that man away. But uh I just think for Moreno, 720 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,800 Speaker 4: a fresh matchup handled it really well and just excited 721 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 4: to see him shine again and nice to see just 722 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,919 Speaker 4: a good human being smile and have that moment. 723 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, he kind of shut him down completely. 724 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 5: I don't like again, I noted it was talk with 725 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 5: a guy who was in the hospital or he went 726 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,919 Speaker 5: to underwent something, but he he you know, like again, 727 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 5: I don't know if he wasn't himself a Moreno just 728 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,959 Speaker 5: made him look that way. But Moreno had a great 729 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 5: fight either, whatever it was. He looked great and the 730 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,760 Speaker 5: other guy looked way off. But he couldn't He couldn't 731 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 5: solve that Moreno puzzle. I'm not even come close. So 732 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 5: hats off the brand of Moreno for doing his thing. 733 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 4: So what's going on the rest of your day? Raymond? 734 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 4: I know a little bit of a late start. You've 735 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 4: obliged and indulged dust on this live episode on a Thursday. 736 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 4: So what's We got a private coming up one pm? 737 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 4: He's So, what's going on the rest of the day. 738 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 4: How's Chris Wyb been doing? Nine days out? 739 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 5: I mean, come on, Widman, sounds fantastic. I'm excited for 740 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:03,280 Speaker 5: next week. 741 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,240 Speaker 2: Uh. He seems like he's in the right spot with everything. 742 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 5: Uh and he's healthy, which is which is really good. 743 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 2: And that what was the question before? What's going on today? Yeah? 744 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 2: But today it's it's nice. 745 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 5: I'm going for a bike rid do some privates get 746 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 5: my workout in. 747 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 2: That's it. That's my damp. Simple. I'm a simple man, 748 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 2: very simple man. 749 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 4: Great, your skin looks great, your new hips so much 750 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 4: so that you can bike all around Garden City. 751 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,479 Speaker 7: Uh free Anakin Florian T shirt for anyone who can 752 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 7: go on the street and take a picture of Ray 753 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 7: Long on a bicycle. 754 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 6: That's send it to our podcast. 755 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 4: Uh yeah yeah, Ray Long ago, MMA have a great 756 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 4: day at a better evening and just keep engaging with 757 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 4: the masses on xes only you can. There's nothing better 758 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 4: than seeing Ray type out L M A H. 759 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,240 Speaker 2: I keep it very simple, John, very simple. 760 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, my man, have a great day and a better evening. 761 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 2: We guys are the best. I'll talk to you there. 762 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 4: Thank you, Ray Long, go minute every week here on 763 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,879 Speaker 4: the Anakin Floring Podcast. He's trying to coordinate a team 764 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 4: dinner in New York City. We'll see if that happens. 765 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 4: But now joining us from one Hall of Fame coach 766 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 4: to another, the general safe side leading the charge at 767 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 4: Fordia's MMA, and what a few months it has been 768 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 4: for the squad, big win for Brandon Moreno, it's good 769 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 4: to see a coach. How are we doing? What kind 770 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 4: of motor vehicle. Are we in right now? 771 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 8: We're in the truck right now. 772 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 11: We're uh, we just pulled over here and got our 773 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 11: little buddy with us hanging out. 774 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 8: Yes, I just got done getting work, Just got done 775 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 8: getting worked. 776 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,839 Speaker 11: One I broke my finger and it got infected and 777 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 11: I got to had to rehabit and just get this 778 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 11: put some. 779 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 8: Oil oil in this old motor. 780 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 1: Man. 781 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 8: I'm telling you, Oh. 782 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 4: Man, I wonder a ye're sort of bringing me to 783 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 4: a topic that I wasn't going to bring up. But 784 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 4: in terms of your like physical health, right, I've been 785 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,919 Speaker 4: in that coaching room with you, and certainly I think 786 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,760 Speaker 4: were you to have to get like your jaw wired 787 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 4: shut right or vocally have to not talk for a 788 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 4: couple months, I think that would be really problematic. But 789 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 4: if you have to be off a wheel or not 790 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 4: able to hold or right, you'd be okay. 791 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 11: No, it's just what happens is And you know, you 792 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 11: guys know this because you live that life as well. 793 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 8: It's just you don't get time, right. 794 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 11: I mean, we went from Salt Lake, then we went 795 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 11: to Ubu Dhabi, then we're in Edmonton. 796 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,879 Speaker 8: So it's like, you know, those are all huge fights too, 797 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 8: so every. 798 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 11: Single week I didn't really have time to kind of 799 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 11: you start not taking care of little things and injuries, 800 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 11: and that stuff starts to add up. So these coaches, 801 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 11: all these shout outs to all these coaches that are 802 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 11: out there on the circuit, you know, I mean, and 803 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 11: then the Dana White fights and then the local fights 804 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:48,919 Speaker 11: and then are whatever fights. 805 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 8: You know, and it adds up. Man. 806 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 11: So but you got to remember that that week for 807 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 11: the guys is the biggest week of their freaking life. 808 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 11: So it doesn't really matter what your problems are. If 809 00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 11: you're alive, you're good. You know, you just got to 810 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:00,879 Speaker 11: be there for well. 811 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 4: I know when people say to us, right man, commentators, 812 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 4: out of how you guys do it, it's like we 813 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 4: have nothing on the coaches. And if people knew the 814 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 4: extent and the lengths that you guys go to, right 815 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 4: like your itinerary to Abu Dhabi, the general safe so 816 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,800 Speaker 4: like in and out in Abu Dhabi just absolutely insane. 817 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 4: I don't really know where to begin with you, Like 818 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 4: I want to get to Kennedy and Zetchiku and Jeff 819 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,439 Speaker 4: Neil and everybody else and Ryan Span. But there were 820 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 4: some rumblings with Brandon Moreno that going into the Brandon 821 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,760 Speaker 4: roy Vall fight that maybe he wasn't one hundred percent. 822 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,439 Speaker 4: And I don't know if it's as try to say 823 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 4: and taking one for the team, but this version this 824 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 4: weekend is given fans a lot to be excited about. 825 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 4: So where's your level of enthusiasm after what you saw 826 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 4: this past weekend? 827 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:42,399 Speaker 2: Oh? 828 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 11: I mean, you know, I'm right along with everybody else. 829 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 11: I mean, the kid looked like a champion. He looked fantastic, 830 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 11: He was in complete control, showed so many different weapons, 831 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 11: you know, the kicks, the punches, the elbows, great takedown defense, 832 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,320 Speaker 11: great awareness with his distance management. 833 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 8: I mean, it was plus performance. 834 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 11: And you know, as a coach, John and Kenny knows 835 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,280 Speaker 11: this too, you just love to see your guys shine 836 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 11: in front of everybody else, because I've seen that, right, 837 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 11: And this is what we've been working on. 838 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,800 Speaker 8: We've been working on this version of Brandon since I 839 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 8: got him. 840 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 11: And I thought in the Figgi fight we did that 841 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 11: it was a very clean fight, unbelievable performance and such 842 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 11: a good win. 843 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,840 Speaker 8: And then we had the Pantosa fight, which. 844 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 11: Is an all time amazing fight, and so both of 845 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 11: those fights were really good. 846 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 8: It's hard to be mad at a kid. After the 847 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 8: Pantosa fight. 848 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 11: I mean, that fight was unbelievable, and then we had 849 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 11: ol Bosi. We were on our way back, and you know, 850 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 11: Mexico City, the altitude and it's a whole lot of stuff. 851 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 11: That Brandon went down there to do his camp and 852 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 11: I would go and visit him every week, but he 853 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 11: was gone for like five weeks and we worked hard, recordinated, 854 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 11: but he was away. 855 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 8: From his family, and like. 856 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,959 Speaker 11: I really feel like that's his motor, Like that's that's 857 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,760 Speaker 11: the wood for his fireplace. It's his kids, his girls, 858 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 11: And you guys understand that, Like you know, I. 859 00:40:58,360 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 8: Mean, you could be just so sick of the world. 860 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 8: You want inside. 861 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 11: Your kids come up to you and say hey Dad, 862 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,839 Speaker 11: and you're like, you know what, send me back out there, man, 863 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 11: I'm ready. Like the kids are so powerful. And I 864 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 11: think him just being away from all that, he was 865 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 11: just you know, he just didn't even want to be 866 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 11: there that night. So the sad thing is that after 867 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 11: two incredible fights, just one bad fight and everybody's talking shit. 868 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 8: You know, he's washed and he's done. It's like, man, dude, 869 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 8: you guys have a short memory. 870 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 11: So for him to go out there and masterpiece and 871 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,359 Speaker 11: style on style out there like. 872 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 2: That, it was really awesome. 873 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, well that's exactly what you do to kind of, 874 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 7: you know, get that redemption. He looked amazing best I've 875 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 7: seen him, you know, especially his hands. 876 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,240 Speaker 6: Everything just looked really really sharp. 877 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,879 Speaker 7: And I guess how much do you think that had 878 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 7: to do with like him taking some time off to 879 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 7: kind of rebuild mentally physically technically. 880 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 11: It's like this right, and you know John knows this right, 881 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:56,799 Speaker 11: Like we love what we do. 882 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,319 Speaker 8: I mean, I've known I remember John. 883 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 11: I always bring this John coming up between Brazil twenty 884 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 11: and thirteen, I don't I think it was thirteen. He's like, 885 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,360 Speaker 11: I just want to know how to say your name correctly. 886 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 11: And I was like, I fucking love this guy. Like 887 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 11: you know, like this guy came up and it was 888 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 11: like a far sprint. It was like a fifty or 889 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 11: one hundred yards away. He was like, hey, hold on home, 890 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,600 Speaker 11: and I was like hey, and this is. 891 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 8: The way he said it. 892 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,319 Speaker 11: And you know, obviously, when your name is safe, right 893 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 11: people your whole life, huh what you know, especially the 894 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,839 Speaker 11: way I spell it. But you got to be true 895 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 11: to who you are, so I've never changed my name 896 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 11: and he, you know, he went out of his way 897 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 11: to do that, and I remember I was like, man, 898 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 11: what a good dude. 899 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 8: There's a lot of passion there. Well. 900 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 11: I see John some weeks, you know, we've been on 901 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,839 Speaker 11: the road for I don't know how long, and we're 902 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 11: looking at each other like we just want to go 903 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 11: hide in the closet, you know, like you lose your 904 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 11: perspective sometimes when you're in the middle of the war 905 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,399 Speaker 11: over and over and over again. We all knew in life, right, 906 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,759 Speaker 11: so sometimes when you take a step back, if someone 907 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 11: told me and John, you guys are done, you can't 908 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,919 Speaker 11: come back to the UFC, boy, I bet you we'd 909 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 11: be super motivated within seconds, you know. 910 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 8: And it's just human, man. 911 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,799 Speaker 11: You start to you start to not really see things 912 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 11: for what they are. And the worst part is in 913 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,919 Speaker 11: fighting if that gets in your mindset and you don't 914 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 11: want to be in there, you're just not motivated, you 915 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 11: just want to be done. 916 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 8: Then you get those flat performances. And you saw Bruno Silva. 917 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 11: Talking about that in the media not long ago, about 918 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 11: the mental part, and like, hey, I just can't figure 919 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 11: it out. And you know, Brandon is obviously really mentally incredible, 920 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 11: but at that time I just felt like the best 921 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,319 Speaker 11: thing for me to do is just you know, say 922 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,759 Speaker 11: hey man, we're not doing this, like you can't do 923 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 11: this for a little while, and he wanted to. 924 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,839 Speaker 8: A couple of weeks later he called me coach. 925 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 11: Man like I'm bored. I was like, no, man, I 926 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 11: just got to keep going. And you know, so much 927 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 11: credit to him. We really built our trust to a 928 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 11: whole other level because I know he wanted to compete, 929 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 11: you know, and I know he's a competitor. 930 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 8: He loves to compete and to take that away. 931 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 11: But then he found that perspective I think in that 932 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 11: rest and his family and just got that love again. Right, 933 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 11: It's like all right, you know what, now let's go back, 934 00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:58,479 Speaker 11: And it just worked out really well. 935 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,879 Speaker 4: The general podcasts go ahead, can flow. 936 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 7: I was gonna say, so, was that something you saw 937 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 7: in Brandon or was that kind of just based on 938 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 7: your experience in dealing with other fighters, say. 939 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,359 Speaker 8: I mean, it's it was a combination of both, Ken. 940 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 11: I mean, you know, like you see a guy killing 941 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 11: it in the room and then fight week you can 942 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 11: see the energy dipping and then just you can just 943 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 11: see it, you know, and you know this. You guys 944 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 11: know this man. You guys have been around a long time. 945 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:28,720 Speaker 11: You can kind of see it in the eyes. Sometimes 946 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,719 Speaker 11: right in the fight week, you're like, this guy. You 947 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 11: saw Brandon's walk out. He wasn't losing to anybody. You 948 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 11: could have put anybody in there. He looked so ready. 949 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 11: And I believe he's the best fight in the world 950 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,759 Speaker 11: at one hundred and twenty five pounds, the most balanced, 951 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 11: I believe, And with the new scoring off of damage 952 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 11: and stand up and stuff, I really feel like, you 953 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,359 Speaker 11: know he is. You know that Pantosia fight happened, now, 954 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,720 Speaker 11: I think we would definitely have one with a scoring 955 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,319 Speaker 11: being what it is right. So, I don't know, man, 956 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:59,959 Speaker 11: I just I'm really excited about his future and and it. 957 00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:02,319 Speaker 8: Was an awesome night. And we're still on the team. 958 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 11: I just talked to the team yesterday and we're all 959 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 11: really really happy about him. 960 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:09,400 Speaker 4: Man safe. So with us here on the anacon Florian podcast, 961 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,440 Speaker 4: the general out of fortis MMA. So gosh, man, it's like, 962 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:14,880 Speaker 4: there's so much to talk about when it comes to 963 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 4: all of your athletes right now. But oftentimes when we 964 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,080 Speaker 4: talk to Anthony Lyon hart Smith about a man he 965 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:25,920 Speaker 4: has twice beaten in Ryan Span. He just sort of 966 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,320 Speaker 4: talks so superlatively about this guy. And you know, sometimes 967 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 4: I stop short of saying, Jeff Neil is your star pupil, right, 968 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 4: because I think maybe it denigrates somebody like Ryan Span, right, 969 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:40,439 Speaker 4: But how far can we take this fucking Ryan Span man? 970 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,000 Speaker 4: Because like it seems right now, like you know, I 971 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 4: think the fan base and me like we want to 972 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 4: buy in? Should we buy it? 973 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 2: You know what? 974 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 11: I love though, And I gotta give a lot of 975 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:54,720 Speaker 11: credit to the fans because with like Ryan, with Jeff, 976 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,759 Speaker 11: you know, these guys have these guys are fighting the 977 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 11: best guys in the world. Right, They're gonna slip sometimes, 978 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:02,399 Speaker 11: but those two guys, with their style and how they 979 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 11: finish and how violent they are, people get on that train. 980 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,919 Speaker 11: So like people will get on the train for Ryan 981 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 11: will have an incredible performance dom Ray is and then 982 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,239 Speaker 11: he'll lose, you know, lose, you have some inconsistency. But 983 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 11: once he gets going again, people get right back on 984 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:21,319 Speaker 11: the train. Everybody sees the potential and the incredible skill set. 985 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 8: And I'll tell you I always said Ryan. 986 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:26,480 Speaker 11: I think is the best, maybe one of the best 987 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:31,319 Speaker 11: skilled athletes at that size. His submissions are incredible, his 988 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 11: wrestling is excellent, his bottom game is incredible. 989 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 8: I mean he's like a giant cat, you know. I 990 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,359 Speaker 8: mean it's it's crazy. His hands. 991 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,399 Speaker 11: He's got power in the left hook, right, we saw 992 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,239 Speaker 11: that Dom Ray's power on the right hand, we saw 993 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,319 Speaker 11: that osp I mean, he'll put he'll put you down 994 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,480 Speaker 11: with either one speed, length, you know. I mean he 995 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:53,319 Speaker 11: is so dangerous everywhere, and that's how he fights him 996 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,759 Speaker 11: He's on point, you know, and he's confident. Again we 997 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 11: talk about you see it. So it's just all about 998 00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 11: getting the guys to do the work. And you know, 999 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,239 Speaker 11: easier said than done. These guys all went on four 1000 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 11: and five fight winning streets, all got in the top fifteen. Right, 1001 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 11: they're fighting the toughest guys in the world. Man, it's hard, 1002 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 11: you know, you get injuries, you get hurt, things happen. 1003 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,279 Speaker 11: So I'm so proud of these guys to still be here, 1004 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 11: you know, still making everybody so excited seven eight years 1005 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,799 Speaker 11: later in the UFC, still beating, you know, guys on 1006 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,560 Speaker 11: tough guys and still having that opportunity to be champs. 1007 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 8: I think both those guys could be champions. 1008 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 4: Absolutely, yeah, yes, and interesting to see Jeff Neil and 1009 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,440 Speaker 4: Kennedy and Zechi who both win recently and have an 1010 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,759 Speaker 4: injury on the other side. And not to suggest that 1011 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 4: it took any sort of shine away, but it is 1012 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:44,880 Speaker 4: interesting to see a heavyweight bodied Kennedy and Zetchaku in 1013 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,320 Speaker 4: an octagon. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't intrigued. 1014 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,440 Speaker 11: You know, I got to give him credit because this 1015 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,279 Speaker 11: was his idea. He's like, coach, I want to go 1016 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,360 Speaker 11: to heavyweight. Every single time he was cut weight, he 1017 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,520 Speaker 11: was throwing up, even when his weight was very low. 1018 00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,400 Speaker 11: He just had a hard time. You know, he would 1019 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,120 Speaker 11: go there and and I could just tell, like all 1020 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,399 Speaker 11: week he did not want to deal with that right 1021 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,799 Speaker 11: like he you could just tell that he was he 1022 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 11: was ready to fight. But imagine if you knew you 1023 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,000 Speaker 11: were gonna puke, you know, fight week and you're gonna 1024 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,400 Speaker 11: feel like shit on that day. 1025 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 8: And we tried all kinds of stuff. But you know, 1026 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:16,719 Speaker 8: he's just getting. 1027 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,719 Speaker 11: Older and he only walks at like two forty two 1028 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,759 Speaker 11: thirty five. But he said, coach a really heavyweight, and 1029 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,279 Speaker 11: he was just a lot happier, you know, and we'll see, 1030 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,279 Speaker 11: we'll talk to Nick mayerd and we'll try to build 1031 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:28,799 Speaker 11: them there and we'll just see what happens. You know. 1032 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,360 Speaker 8: It's all you can't again, you just the UFC is 1033 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:33,600 Speaker 8: so competitive right now. 1034 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,839 Speaker 11: Man, you just really gotta just take it one fight 1035 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 11: at a time. And I think that people start, you know, 1036 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,840 Speaker 11: talking a lot and we're gonna do this, We're gonna 1037 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,040 Speaker 11: do that. And I really love Brandon's coach. Going back 1038 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:45,400 Speaker 11: to Brandon, they're like, you want to fight for the 1039 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,040 Speaker 11: belt now, and He's like, nah, you know, I'll probably 1040 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 11: have to fight again, and you know, like I've already 1041 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:52,960 Speaker 11: lost to these guys and there in front of me. 1042 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:54,279 Speaker 8: I just like the honesty, you. 1043 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:59,040 Speaker 11: Know, and I think with Kennedy still gotta he was 1044 00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,359 Speaker 11: en route. Those guys were in a route to real 1045 00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,800 Speaker 11: beat downs. And it's kind of unfortunate because, like you said, 1046 00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,520 Speaker 11: they kind of got taken away from him. But let's 1047 00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,839 Speaker 11: just do that again. Let's have another great performance and 1048 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:10,439 Speaker 11: go from there. 1049 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:12,279 Speaker 4: All right, I'll get you out of here on this, 1050 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,040 Speaker 4: and again, congratulations on all the success on the Contender 1051 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,279 Speaker 4: series in the UFC. It's been an incredible run and 1052 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,960 Speaker 4: it's crazy the ebbs and flows, right, but it has 1053 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:21,960 Speaker 4: been an incredible stretch for you guys in terms of 1054 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,520 Speaker 4: Jeff Neil, your star pupil or otherwise right, the last 1055 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 4: man to beat Blau Muhammad back in twenty nineteen. I 1056 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,840 Speaker 4: know you have a good personal relationship with Blal. I 1057 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,880 Speaker 4: know Jeff and Balao have a lot of mutual and 1058 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,319 Speaker 4: competitive respect. But any quick thoughts on the way out 1059 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:40,279 Speaker 4: on this infection for Blal and Ian Gary stepping into 1060 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,400 Speaker 4: a dangerous fight and keeping the division going, Coleby calling 1061 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,440 Speaker 4: for Jack Dela matt Aalana, what do you have for 1062 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,400 Speaker 4: us on Jeff Neil and seventy on the way up? 1063 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,520 Speaker 11: Let's first talk about Balal Muhammad and give him so 1064 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:54,200 Speaker 11: much credit and respect that this dude deserves. You know, 1065 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:58,760 Speaker 11: and you gained respect through competition and you know, Jeff, 1066 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,040 Speaker 11: what was the last one and beat Law? But guess 1067 00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,200 Speaker 11: what then? I watched Blall when ten fights in a 1068 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,239 Speaker 11: row and just really came to appreciate, you know, his 1069 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,880 Speaker 11: mental grind. That guy when nobody believed in him, he 1070 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,680 Speaker 11: believed in himself. And I mean even all the Twitter stuff, 1071 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:13,920 Speaker 11: I'd be like blaw Man just. 1072 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:14,560 Speaker 8: Focus on fight. 1073 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,919 Speaker 11: He's like, Noah, coach, I gotta I've gotta, I gotta 1074 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,399 Speaker 11: be loud, you know, And I would be like, all right, 1075 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:23,200 Speaker 11: man whatever. But he proved that night he won that title. 1076 00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,720 Speaker 11: He proved every single person. He proved it to everybody. 1077 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,319 Speaker 11: I mean, he took the longest road. So credit to him, 1078 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,440 Speaker 11: and just let that guy just recover, man, Like he's 1079 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,840 Speaker 11: willing to fight anybody, nothing but respect. 1080 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,400 Speaker 8: Also, Elias is a really big deal. 1081 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:36,640 Speaker 2: Man. 1082 00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,839 Speaker 11: If you get that you're talking about, that can kill you. 1083 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:44,279 Speaker 11: It's a bonus. Fuction spreads very very quickly. I mean 1084 00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 11: people have to get amputations from stuff like that. And 1085 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,640 Speaker 11: this is not a joke, so it's not like it's 1086 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:53,480 Speaker 11: just a staff infection. I mean, and you know, I'm 1087 00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,239 Speaker 11: sure he already had that and was like, I'll just 1088 00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:57,160 Speaker 11: do these antibiotics. 1089 00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:57,720 Speaker 2: I'll be fine. 1090 00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,160 Speaker 11: That's not a guy that runs away from fight. So 1091 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 11: it just that narrative needs to really be clear. And 1092 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,319 Speaker 11: if Ballall doesn't fight until April, like shut up, bro, 1093 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,280 Speaker 11: Like these other guys got the belt. Eon got the belt. 1094 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,439 Speaker 11: He fought once a year and he would only fight 1095 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:11,920 Speaker 11: in England. 1096 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:13,960 Speaker 8: I mean, come on, man. 1097 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,400 Speaker 11: Like, let's be fair, so balal Mohammed nothing but respect. 1098 00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,880 Speaker 11: I'm sure I think Jeff has the ability to beat him, 1099 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 11: because he already has. But the other thing is that 1100 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,080 Speaker 11: schaef Cat now being up at the top, Jeff having 1101 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,440 Speaker 11: such a good fight against both of these guys, it 1102 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,440 Speaker 11: just makes Jeff super relevant again. And with Jeff style, 1103 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 11: people want to see. People want to see Jeff fight, 1104 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,719 Speaker 11: you know, and nothing but I've seen you. You've giving 1105 00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,799 Speaker 11: you Ian Gary's respect and respect Ian Gary like, but 1106 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,600 Speaker 11: people don't like that style man, and he really that 1107 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,279 Speaker 11: MVP fight. I think that the stock went down a lot, 1108 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:49,279 Speaker 11: not a little, a lot because the Jeff fight, you know, 1109 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,480 Speaker 11: I thought was boring in a terrible fight for both 1110 00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:51,799 Speaker 11: of them. 1111 00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,839 Speaker 8: I thought Jeff didn't fight well. I thought Ian Gary 1112 00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,360 Speaker 8: didn't fight well. It was a very close decision. 1113 00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,160 Speaker 11: That the fight was just kind of h It was 1114 00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 11: Ian Gary running away and kind of just he said 1115 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:01,839 Speaker 11: too oh, I wasn't. 1116 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:03,360 Speaker 8: I was scared to get hit and all this and 1117 00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,000 Speaker 8: all that. So credit to. 1118 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,640 Speaker 11: Him, but and also Jeff, you know, Jeff failed and 1119 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:11,319 Speaker 11: he could have done better, but that style is not 1120 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,719 Speaker 11: one people really want to see. And I think that 1121 00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 11: that that the division, every division, in every single organization. See, man, 1122 00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,880 Speaker 11: they're just going to keep moving more and more to fish, 1123 00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,000 Speaker 11: more and more to guys that that are willing to 1124 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:33,840 Speaker 11: go in the fire. And people say, oh, the law's 1125 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,799 Speaker 11: got decisions. But I mean he was pressing on the gas. Yeah, 1126 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,480 Speaker 11: like he was trying, so it doesn't matter. But when 1127 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,880 Speaker 11: you're when you're backing up and like running away, it 1128 00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:44,919 Speaker 11: looks like you're trying to play a point fighting game. 1129 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:46,319 Speaker 8: Nobody wants that. 1130 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:47,920 Speaker 11: So I think that's why you're not getting that call 1131 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:49,680 Speaker 11: free and Gary, you're right, him. 1132 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,319 Speaker 8: Taking the Buckley Fighters is a big risk. 1133 00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,719 Speaker 11: Luckily is going to try to He's going to try 1134 00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,319 Speaker 11: to zero and in hum like he did on Wonder Boy. 1135 00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,120 Speaker 8: It's basically the same fight, you know. 1136 00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,839 Speaker 11: But I just think that I think that's why people 1137 00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,840 Speaker 11: love chaft Cat because chaf Cat is so violent. You 1138 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:07,640 Speaker 11: could tell he's just trying to get close to you 1139 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,920 Speaker 11: so he can cut you, so he can hurt you, 1140 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,720 Speaker 11: so he can knock you out. There's not one thought 1141 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,759 Speaker 11: process in his mind about safety, about uh, you know, 1142 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:18,960 Speaker 11: how do I play it safe? 1143 00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,600 Speaker 8: And people love that. That's why they love Brandon. You 1144 00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,640 Speaker 8: know that people want to see that. 1145 00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,520 Speaker 11: So I think that moving on, and that's why you 1146 00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,200 Speaker 11: see Kayasakura getting a title shot right off the bat, 1147 00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:33,640 Speaker 11: just drop them straight in. The guy's right hand is amazing, 1148 00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:37,000 Speaker 11: his speed is amazing, his striking is amazing. So I 1149 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:41,680 Speaker 11: think that moving forward with welterweight, with whatever happens Ballall, 1150 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:44,439 Speaker 11: I mean, if they want to have an interm. 1151 00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:44,600 Speaker 2: It's whatever. 1152 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 8: But Ballall deserves his spot. 1153 00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,560 Speaker 11: They're not going to give the Colby's and these guys 1154 00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,280 Speaker 11: that are trying to play the game, they're just done. 1155 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,320 Speaker 8: That era of MMA is done. 1156 00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,239 Speaker 11: And I think that that's not saying Gary can't knock 1157 00:53:56,239 --> 00:54:00,360 Speaker 11: out Buckley because he knocked out Rodriguez. He has it talent, 1158 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,759 Speaker 11: But if he plays it safe again, that's why I 1159 00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,200 Speaker 11: believe he got that fight. He's fighting up, you know, 1160 00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,480 Speaker 11: he plays it safe again like that, And I mean, 1161 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,440 Speaker 11: it's just the world's watching you, man, So nobody wants 1162 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,840 Speaker 11: to hit that last fight, last two fights. 1163 00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,120 Speaker 8: You've seen to him, Are you excited to see him fight? 1164 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:18,279 Speaker 5: Like? 1165 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,200 Speaker 8: It's just not the same. So you're only as good 1166 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:21,959 Speaker 8: as you last fight. 1167 00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:27,200 Speaker 4: And I get it. I mean respect as far as. 1168 00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,120 Speaker 11: The rankings go and all that, But again That's why 1169 00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:31,960 Speaker 11: you see a guy like hum Zack come back in 1170 00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,880 Speaker 11: and they just they let him go because he's a finisher, 1171 00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:35,640 Speaker 11: he's violent. 1172 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:37,600 Speaker 8: It's all about violence level. 1173 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:43,400 Speaker 11: So shaft Cat wins that fight, that's gonna be the standard, uh, 1174 00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,560 Speaker 11: you know, and then him and Balal. Uh. 1175 00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:48,640 Speaker 8: I don't know if cheft Cats standing on the card 1176 00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:48,880 Speaker 8: or not. 1177 00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,880 Speaker 4: No, I don't know. We'll see what happens. I mean, 1178 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,920 Speaker 4: I love the way you answered that, and I would 1179 00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:55,759 Speaker 4: like to be very clear as I sit in a 1180 00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:59,000 Speaker 4: room with two fighters here, right Like, I always defer 1181 00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,319 Speaker 4: to your expertise, right, Not that I'm just some talking head, 1182 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:06,000 Speaker 4: you know, but best of luck to Shavkar Rochmanov and 1183 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,920 Speaker 4: everybody else with no risk mitigation against somebody like Michael 1184 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,359 Speaker 4: Venam Page. How does your guy Jeff Neil match up 1185 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,600 Speaker 4: with Michael Page and exercise that matchup? So I have 1186 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,600 Speaker 4: very strong opinions about this because for me, I'm not 1187 00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,400 Speaker 4: a promoter. I understand the climate in which we are operating, 1188 00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,359 Speaker 4: right uh. And your right to acknowledge Blal as being 1189 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,440 Speaker 4: far more offensive than people want to give him credit, 1190 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,439 Speaker 4: like with Leon Edwards, ever admit that Balal like touched 1191 00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,239 Speaker 4: him up on the feet and round one and that was. 1192 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,759 Speaker 8: Like, what did he do? He did nothing? Leon Edwards 1193 00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:34,520 Speaker 8: did nothing that fight. 1194 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, Hey, I love you. I know I've taken more 1195 00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,319 Speaker 4: of your time than, uh than maybe you had, But 1196 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,120 Speaker 4: you're the man. I love you, and I might compete 1197 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,080 Speaker 4: against my brother soon, so just get ready to make 1198 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:45,360 Speaker 4: room and something. 1199 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:46,800 Speaker 8: Let me tell you something. 1200 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,400 Speaker 11: These two guys love each other so much, right that 1201 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,520 Speaker 11: they keep pushing each other and pushing each other. 1202 00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:53,399 Speaker 8: I don't know. I don't know how I feel about 1203 00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,000 Speaker 8: you fighting your brother. I mean, maybe you got to 1204 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,440 Speaker 8: do it behind closed doors. We'll talk about it, all. 1205 00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,200 Speaker 4: Right, buddy. Hey, thank you man, have a great deal. 1206 00:55:59,280 --> 00:55:59,959 Speaker 8: Let it flow. 1207 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,399 Speaker 6: Is there? 1208 00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,919 Speaker 4: He is votes MMA's general safe syde with us here 1209 00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,080 Speaker 4: on the Antiiciplorian Podcast. Yeah, Kenny, it's a spirited conversation 1210 00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,359 Speaker 4: the Ian Mashado, Gary one, and I want to get 1211 00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,360 Speaker 4: your thoughts on Aman's a hobby before we spin it 1212 00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,480 Speaker 4: forward to this next UFC Fight Night offering coming up 1213 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:21,960 Speaker 4: this weekend, featuring Carlos Protests and Neil Magni. But Kenny 1214 00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:27,600 Speaker 4: like the relative value or quality of Ian Mushado Gary's 1215 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,840 Speaker 4: wins over Jeff Neil or Michael Venom Page is constantly 1216 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:34,160 Speaker 4: called into question, but does it stand to reason? And 1217 00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,440 Speaker 4: maybe I shouldn't even offer up things like this, But 1218 00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,719 Speaker 4: if you're really trying to give Ian Mashadow Gary any 1219 00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,600 Speaker 4: sort of push, right, you don't have him try to 1220 00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,840 Speaker 4: get through Michael Venom Page. And I understand his grappling 1221 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,040 Speaker 4: is still work in progress as he aligns with Charles 1222 00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,040 Speaker 4: Olavera and Damian Maya and the Shoot to Box Academy, 1223 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,239 Speaker 4: But like, I don't know, man, Like I understand the 1224 00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,239 Speaker 4: climate right now in terms of violence and everything else, 1225 00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,240 Speaker 4: but I don't know. I just think Ian Gary gets 1226 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,280 Speaker 4: a bad rap for whatever reason. 1227 00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,359 Speaker 7: Well I think listen, I think Safe made some really 1228 00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:09,480 Speaker 7: good points about how the UFC sees fighters and what 1229 00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:13,640 Speaker 7: they want to see. More importantly, and even maybe more 1230 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,360 Speaker 7: important than that, what the fans really want to see, right, 1231 00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,400 Speaker 7: because that's what the UFC wants to deliver, and the 1232 00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,080 Speaker 7: fans want to see action. They wanted to see destruction, 1233 00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,240 Speaker 7: and they do want to see violence, right, That's what 1234 00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:28,200 Speaker 7: we're here for. And not everybody, especially if you don't 1235 00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:29,880 Speaker 7: train in the sport, are going to be able to 1236 00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:34,520 Speaker 7: appreciate little things like versatility. 1237 00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,080 Speaker 6: As a fighter or consistency. 1238 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,840 Speaker 7: And these are very important things and for a fighter, 1239 00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:40,720 Speaker 7: you got to do what you need to do to 1240 00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:41,560 Speaker 7: get that win. 1241 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:42,840 Speaker 6: At the end of the day, no. 1242 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,880 Speaker 7: One cares if you are an extremely exciting fighter and 1243 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,120 Speaker 7: you're zero to ten in the UFC. You're an exciting 1244 00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,880 Speaker 7: fighter that loses a lot, right, So you have to 1245 00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,080 Speaker 7: find that balance of being someone that people want. 1246 00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:58,680 Speaker 10: To see, but also you need w's on your record, 1247 00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,720 Speaker 10: and that's what Ian Mishchad o'gary is doing. 1248 00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:02,520 Speaker 6: At the end of the day. 1249 00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,760 Speaker 7: Sometimes is gonna get through to get the fights that 1250 00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:09,200 Speaker 7: you want. So it's tough, but I understand what Satan 1251 00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,600 Speaker 7: is saying, and a lot of what he's saying is true. 1252 00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,840 Speaker 4: No doubt, and I do like him addressing the false 1253 00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:19,440 Speaker 4: narrative about Blab Muhammad's entertainment value as MMA fighter. All Right, 1254 00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,240 Speaker 4: I have to ask you about amin Za Hobby, your 1255 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,160 Speaker 4: former training partner, because I just love this family. I 1256 00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,520 Speaker 4: love Farasahaby as a human being, and I love his 1257 00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,040 Speaker 4: brother Aimen and it's my oversight to have not booked 1258 00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,640 Speaker 4: Amon today. We'll talk to him later this month at 1259 00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,320 Speaker 4: some point in time, but in twenty nineteen, I think 1260 00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:35,720 Speaker 4: he had lost two in a row. There was an 1261 00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,240 Speaker 4: extended layoff. He comes back in twenty twenty one and 1262 00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:46,200 Speaker 4: your guy aman Zahabby little Amen now television star and 1263 00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,880 Speaker 4: he's won five fights in a row in this UFC 1264 00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,120 Speaker 4: gauntlet of a bandamweight division. He is a ranked ufcly 1265 00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:56,000 Speaker 4: bantamweight and I'm not sure if the ceiling is championship Kenny, 1266 00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,000 Speaker 4: but man, you gotta feel absolutely elated for amin Za 1267 00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,640 Speaker 4: Hobby after the big win over Pedro Munos and Edmonton. 1268 00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:03,000 Speaker 10: I am. 1269 00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:06,320 Speaker 7: I'm very happy. I'm very proud. This is a kid 1270 00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,040 Speaker 7: who I knew it was just a matter of time. 1271 00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,040 Speaker 6: Before he was going to be in the UFC. 1272 00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,280 Speaker 7: He was working very hard on his skills for a 1273 00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,080 Speaker 7: long time under the tutelage and guidance of his brother 1274 00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,000 Speaker 7: Farosa Hobby, one of the best coaches, one of the 1275 00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:19,280 Speaker 7: best minds in the world. 1276 00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,080 Speaker 6: And yes, they are an amazing family. 1277 00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,920 Speaker 7: And to see Amen and not just as a fighter 1278 00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,920 Speaker 7: be successful, but also be successful outside of the cage 1279 00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:31,360 Speaker 7: now as an analyst and commentator, it's great to see 1280 00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,880 Speaker 7: he is extremely talented and he went against a guy 1281 00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,640 Speaker 7: in Pedro Munos who is very dangerous and very talented 1282 00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,520 Speaker 7: in his own right and to get a win against 1283 00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:41,880 Speaker 7: someone like that shows that he's arrived. He's ready for 1284 00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:45,480 Speaker 7: the elite competition and was super excited to see him 1285 00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,760 Speaker 7: get the win there, especially in Edmonton. 1286 00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,880 Speaker 4: Congrasts Staymon's a hobby. We will definitely book him later 1287 00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,439 Speaker 4: this month on the Anakin Floor. In podcast Jasmine Jazz 1288 00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:58,680 Speaker 4: Divisiist Yusuf Zilal, Dustin Stoltzfus, Charles Jordaane All getting performance 1289 00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:02,280 Speaker 4: of the night bonuses. Just a good night overall for 1290 01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:05,440 Speaker 4: the UFC. And uh to Aaron Blanchfield, just what a 1291 01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:09,840 Speaker 4: response after that Star Kenny, right after losing the first 1292 01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,600 Speaker 4: two rounds to Rose nama Unis to come back and 1293 01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:15,400 Speaker 4: get the fight to her world. Just complete relentlessness and 1294 01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:17,720 Speaker 4: uh yeah sounds tried to say she was not gonna 1295 01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:19,640 Speaker 4: be denied on this night, right, but she was not 1296 01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:20,280 Speaker 4: gonna be denied. 1297 01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:24,720 Speaker 7: I was pretty convicted on Rose Namba Unis man, and 1298 01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,120 Speaker 7: then you know, you see those two rounds from Rose 1299 01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:28,120 Speaker 7: and you're like, yep. 1300 01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:28,960 Speaker 6: This is the way it's gonna go. 1301 01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,760 Speaker 7: Gosh, I know everything, and then all of a sudden 1302 01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:35,280 Speaker 7: Blanchefield decides to go and no, no, no, no, I'm not 1303 01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:39,200 Speaker 7: done yet. And she showed the kind of heart and 1304 01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:42,880 Speaker 7: determination of someone who wants to be someone in the sport, 1305 01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:44,400 Speaker 7: who wants to be a champion. 1306 01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:46,320 Speaker 6: And although it wasn't. 1307 01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:49,160 Speaker 7: Pretty at times, man, she found a way to get 1308 01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,040 Speaker 7: it done. And at the end of the fight, I 1309 01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:56,280 Speaker 7: was like she she she deserves every bit of that win. 1310 01:00:56,720 --> 01:01:00,320 Speaker 7: Amazing performance. She wanted it more than Rose. It's simple 1311 01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,680 Speaker 7: as that to me. Uh, and she was not going 1312 01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,760 Speaker 7: to be denied. She injected her grappling into the conversation 1313 01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:06,960 Speaker 7: and got it done. 1314 01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:07,440 Speaker 5: Uh. 1315 01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,560 Speaker 6: That was beautiful all right. 1316 01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:12,320 Speaker 4: Today's Anaki Floorent podcast is presented by Draft Kings. Stay 1317 01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:14,440 Speaker 4: tuned because you hear more about DraftKings and all it 1318 01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,040 Speaker 4: has to offer throughout the show. Draft Kings, The crown 1319 01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,080 Speaker 4: is yours. All right. We go three wide once again 1320 01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,680 Speaker 4: and we welcome in our chief handicapper. He is big 1321 01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:27,480 Speaker 4: Gun Brian Petrie. And much to the dismay by of 1322 01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,040 Speaker 4: our fans, we have killed the Pronunciation of the Week, 1323 01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:33,840 Speaker 4: sure as a segment on a weekly basis, but we 1324 01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:34,720 Speaker 4: brought it back today. 1325 01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,320 Speaker 13: We brought it back and I love how the general 1326 01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:41,640 Speaker 13: says Shot Shavcott, you say nothing if I said, could. 1327 01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:46,160 Speaker 6: Be most even Wiscansen. 1328 01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:48,880 Speaker 4: From Wiscanson. This guy smiling. 1329 01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,320 Speaker 13: I guess yes, if you're so smart, Yeah yeah, look 1330 01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:52,720 Speaker 13: at your beautiful Yeah yeah. 1331 01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:56,320 Speaker 6: John John was fringing every time I had to old Ben. 1332 01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:58,800 Speaker 4: Now you're making me want to pull up the shot 1333 01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,200 Speaker 4: cut Rock modof file and see if I'm actually saying 1334 01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:01,760 Speaker 4: it correctly. 1335 01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:02,960 Speaker 2: Rock. 1336 01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,959 Speaker 4: So yeah, you've got a name file for you. And 1337 01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:10,640 Speaker 4: he addressed this at his media scrum here during fight 1338 01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:13,880 Speaker 4: week he's making his UFC debut. He says, just call 1339 01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:16,480 Speaker 4: me r D R sure, like we have an r 1340 01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:19,720 Speaker 4: DA half Ael Dosanjos. He wants to be our DR. 1341 01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,440 Speaker 4: What he is is a former One Championship middleweight and 1342 01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:25,400 Speaker 4: light heavyweight champion and a jiu jitsu black belt. And 1343 01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,360 Speaker 4: this weekend he makes his UFC debut against GM three 1344 01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:31,640 Speaker 4: Gerald Mershard So, bp uh, I don't know how your 1345 01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:35,200 Speaker 4: motor's running today, but for us on r DR. 1346 01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:36,320 Speaker 3: So, I'm a fan of this guy. 1347 01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:37,840 Speaker 13: I've watched a lot of this guy's tape and a 1348 01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,560 Speaker 13: lot of different announcers say his name different. 1349 01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:42,800 Speaker 3: So I'm just going to take a shot here. Nier 1350 01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:44,960 Speaker 3: d Ritter is what I go with. 1351 01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,360 Speaker 4: Not bad. I mean you sounded like a full throwed 1352 01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:52,200 Speaker 4: in red blooded American mail right there. Let's hear, Yeah, 1353 01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:53,720 Speaker 4: that's what you are. I'm not gonna ask you who 1354 01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,440 Speaker 4: you voted for either. Let's uh, let's listen to the 1355 01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:59,600 Speaker 4: pronunciation of the week, r Dr Cody Merrow. 1356 01:02:59,640 --> 01:02:59,920 Speaker 2: What do you have? 1357 01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:05,880 Speaker 6: My name is Na hitter aldyr n hit are d. 1358 01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:13,720 Speaker 4: E r Raia Ryania ry near zach r. 1359 01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:14,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1360 01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:21,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, it is UFC Fight Night, Magni versus protests. I 1361 01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:24,120 Speaker 4: wonder if Carlos Protest likes those Parliament lights with the 1362 01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,920 Speaker 4: recess filter or if he's more of a camel guy anyway. 1363 01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:29,560 Speaker 4: Featured prelim Fellas just one of the few thoughts on 1364 01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:31,760 Speaker 4: this given the big price. Not sure if you have 1365 01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,720 Speaker 4: anything on the straweights, but DENISEI Gomes minus five twenty 1366 01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,680 Speaker 4: or so taking on Carolina kobal Keevitch, who is plus 1367 01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:42,960 Speaker 4: three ninety so. Gomes has won three or four cobal Keevich, 1368 01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:45,520 Speaker 4: of course, former world title challenger that was all the 1369 01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,720 Speaker 4: way back in twenty sixteen. Interesting, Briy this current version 1370 01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,600 Speaker 4: of coble Keievitch under pohumpat American Top Team. She's won 1371 01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:54,200 Speaker 4: four or five sort of a resurgence stage of her 1372 01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,880 Speaker 4: MMA career. She is coming off a loss to Yasmin 1373 01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,480 Speaker 4: Lucindo at UFC three oh one and Rio back in May. 1374 01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,480 Speaker 4: But active in terms of the competition cycle at this 1375 01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,520 Speaker 4: stage of her career. But plus three ninety here against 1376 01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:09,240 Speaker 4: Dannise Gomes. Anything for us on the one fifteen or SPPI, Yeah, every. 1377 01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:11,560 Speaker 13: Fight we're picking, the lines are pretty wide. Vegas's either 1378 01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:13,040 Speaker 13: gonna have a good week or they're gonna take a 1379 01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:13,680 Speaker 13: fucking bath. 1380 01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,200 Speaker 3: This one is the most egregious one to me. Denise 1381 01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:17,560 Speaker 3: Goumi's she's she's good. 1382 01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:19,480 Speaker 13: She's knocked out a few people, but she's knocked out 1383 01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:22,000 Speaker 13: people that have been knocked out before and maybe have 1384 01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:25,360 Speaker 13: a durability issue. Her takedown game, I think is very basic. 1385 01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:27,240 Speaker 13: I think she's aggressive, she's a bull in there. 1386 01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:28,080 Speaker 3: She's tough. 1387 01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:31,440 Speaker 13: But Carolina couple Keaevitch has fought everybody. She had a 1388 01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:35,160 Speaker 13: nice little run stumble. Now she's back volume volume volume 1389 01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:38,280 Speaker 13: from Carolina here. This is gonna be Powerver's volume. I 1390 01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:40,280 Speaker 13: think the takedowns are gonna be a wash, and we're 1391 01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:43,000 Speaker 13: doing a wash in volume Ver's Power and you're giving 1392 01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:44,200 Speaker 13: me plus three ninety. 1393 01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:45,520 Speaker 4: Sign me up. 1394 01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,120 Speaker 13: I'm taking the dog here. I think it's too close. 1395 01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:49,560 Speaker 13: I think it's gonna go over. I think it's gonna 1396 01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:51,959 Speaker 13: go a decision. We get some funky judges, We're gonna 1397 01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:53,920 Speaker 13: get a fucking dub in our pocket. And that's almost 1398 01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:55,160 Speaker 13: four to one on money. 1399 01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:58,360 Speaker 4: Look at this guy hitting Carolinakovio Keaevis plus three ninety 1400 01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:03,520 Speaker 4: Ken Flow, Denise Gomes five twenty covil Kaevitch plus three ninety. 1401 01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:04,040 Speaker 4: Your thoughts. 1402 01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,880 Speaker 6: I think Gomez is a tough out for covil Kavich. 1403 01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:12,760 Speaker 7: However, she isn't Yasmin and Lucindo uh And I agree 1404 01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,040 Speaker 7: with with what a lot of Brian is saying, and 1405 01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:18,760 Speaker 7: I think coble Kaevich has the opportunity to use that 1406 01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:20,160 Speaker 7: volume to get the win here. 1407 01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:22,520 Speaker 6: I don't think we're going to see a whole lot 1408 01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:23,800 Speaker 6: of grappling here in this one. 1409 01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:25,240 Speaker 4: We may. 1410 01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:27,400 Speaker 7: I think coble Kavich might try to look for some 1411 01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:29,280 Speaker 7: takedowns there. But more than anything else, I think this 1412 01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,360 Speaker 7: fight will probably take place on the feet. And while 1413 01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:35,280 Speaker 7: I do think that Gomes probably hits harder, I think 1414 01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:38,960 Speaker 7: cobl Kaevich could be effective if she gets off to 1415 01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:41,840 Speaker 7: a good start, especially sometimes she doesn't let her hands go. 1416 01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:44,520 Speaker 7: If she can get off to a good start, stay active, 1417 01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:46,480 Speaker 7: she can win this fight. I think there's a lot 1418 01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:49,120 Speaker 7: of value there. So I'm I'm with the VP here 1419 01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:49,960 Speaker 7: too smart. 1420 01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:53,280 Speaker 4: You can be sure right with Marco Stamatta puhump in 1421 01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:57,360 Speaker 4: the corner right plus three ninety, he's probably salivating. We'll 1422 01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:00,280 Speaker 4: see how it goes with the Strawites. And of course 1423 01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,560 Speaker 4: Kemfo wants to say to me, Johnny, if you really 1424 01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:04,360 Speaker 4: want to know, I was trying to watch denyse Gomes 1425 01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:07,280 Speaker 4: film at four thirty am Eastern and my ESPN I. 1426 01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:07,720 Speaker 2: Really was. 1427 01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,160 Speaker 3: Saw the tweet, saw the tweet all right, man. 1428 01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:15,280 Speaker 4: Card opener midweight man tour Abdulmleik minus three seventy five 1429 01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:18,160 Speaker 4: taken on douche Go Todovich who was plus two ninety five. 1430 01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,720 Speaker 4: So the Eric Nixon trained abdulama Aleik six and I 1431 01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:23,520 Speaker 4: was a pro as he arrives at this UFC DEBUTVP 1432 01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:26,280 Speaker 4: had a big STOPAE win on the Contenter Series in August, 1433 01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:29,400 Speaker 4: now making the quick turn for his UFC debut against 1434 01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:31,560 Speaker 4: the guy Jadorovich who when we sat down with him 1435 01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:34,479 Speaker 4: in advance of his UFC debut, suggested that he wanted 1436 01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:38,720 Speaker 4: to be the Novak Djokovic of MMA for Serbia in 1437 01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:40,640 Speaker 4: terms of what Djokovic has done for the sport of 1438 01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:44,360 Speaker 4: tennis for Serbia. Todorvich right now three and four in 1439 01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:46,680 Speaker 4: the UFC. I don't know Ifdjokovic has ever lost four 1440 01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:49,400 Speaker 4: matches actually in his career. Dorbage right now three four 1441 01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:52,520 Speaker 4: US and hasn't fought in a long time. Bryce sustained 1442 01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:54,920 Speaker 4: an injury in the fight with Christian Leroy Duncan. That 1443 01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,160 Speaker 4: was March twenty twenty three at UFC two eighty six. 1444 01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:00,360 Speaker 4: Another knee injury earlier this year long layoff and an 1445 01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,600 Speaker 4: undefeated opponent in the crosshairs for Doorvitch this weekend. What 1446 01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:04,480 Speaker 4: do you have for us on this? 1447 01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:07,600 Speaker 3: Did you guys see Males Contender Series? I mean the 1448 01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,800 Speaker 3: guy's upper bodying back. 1449 01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:14,360 Speaker 4: I did not sure his name? Is it Malik? I 1450 01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,439 Speaker 4: don't know what did I I'm gonna pull up the file. 1451 01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,400 Speaker 4: I said that the leak but maybe. 1452 01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:23,160 Speaker 6: Bripped up right. 1453 01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:24,800 Speaker 3: He's very raw, very green. 1454 01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:28,040 Speaker 13: But people in Vegas down string guitar love this kid 1455 01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:30,800 Speaker 13: because of his power, because of the speed. Is athleticism. 1456 01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:32,960 Speaker 13: Tadorovich has been you know, he hurt himself in the 1457 01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:35,360 Speaker 13: christianly Re duncan fight. Other than that, all his windsor 1458 01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:37,520 Speaker 13: guys outside the UFC doesn't have a win with the 1459 01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:41,320 Speaker 13: current guy on the roster. And when you fight Todorovich, 1460 01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:44,280 Speaker 13: you have to throw heavy hands. That's what Malik does. 1461 01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:46,200 Speaker 13: He throws heavy hands. I don't think he's going to 1462 01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:48,320 Speaker 13: turn off the gas at all. I think Tadorovich is 1463 01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:51,360 Speaker 13: gonna want to grapple a little bit here. Malik's athleticisms 1464 01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:52,840 Speaker 13: should get him to the feet, even though he does 1465 01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,800 Speaker 13: have a pretty weak outside the UFC record because he's young. 1466 01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:57,840 Speaker 13: But people believe in this kid. He's training in a 1467 01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:01,600 Speaker 13: fucking shark room down the tour. So I like Malik here. 1468 01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:04,320 Speaker 13: That's how you say his name, John. I apologize, but yeah, 1469 01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:06,680 Speaker 13: he's he's he's he's gonna be a future star if 1470 01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:09,440 Speaker 13: he continues to train, keeps his head on and uh 1471 01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:11,920 Speaker 13: you know, doesn't funck operating like that, He's going to 1472 01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:13,160 Speaker 13: be special. 1473 01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:18,400 Speaker 4: Can't fal I worry about Tadorovich's knees right knee injuries 1474 01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:21,960 Speaker 4: back to back years here. Perhaps the biggest issue could 1475 01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:25,400 Speaker 4: be the opponent man soor Abdul Malick. We're going with Malick. 1476 01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:30,400 Speaker 4: My apologies and calling him Malik man Sore Abdul Malick 1477 01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:34,599 Speaker 4: Henny minus three seventy five born in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, wrestled 1478 01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:35,960 Speaker 4: a couple of years a couple of years at the 1479 01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:39,600 Speaker 4: University of Maryland and making his UFC maiden voyage here 1480 01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:40,960 Speaker 4: this weekend as a pretty big favorite. 1481 01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:45,040 Speaker 7: Your thoughts, yeah, and going around YouTube watching his fights. Dude, 1482 01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:49,639 Speaker 7: Abdull Malik Uh, he likes throwing people on their heads. 1483 01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:56,720 Speaker 7: I mean, this guy is so powerful and relentlessless and aggressive. 1484 01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:01,240 Speaker 7: I think his style will will definitely resonate with the fans. 1485 01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:03,760 Speaker 7: So I'm excited for this debut from him, and I 1486 01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,360 Speaker 7: like this fight for him a lot as well. And 1487 01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:08,559 Speaker 7: he's not just a wrestler. He's not just a guy 1488 01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:10,920 Speaker 7: that can throw you all over the octagon. He's got 1489 01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:13,800 Speaker 7: some serious power as well, whether it's on the feet 1490 01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:17,200 Speaker 7: or with his ground and pound. The dude is a problem. 1491 01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,439 Speaker 7: I do think there's some shaping involved because he is 1492 01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:25,479 Speaker 7: still very wrang Like BP said, however, he's with the 1493 01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:28,160 Speaker 7: right coach and Eric Nixon, He's in the right spot. 1494 01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:29,960 Speaker 7: He has a lot of good training partners that are 1495 01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:32,560 Speaker 7: going to push him and help him to develop, and 1496 01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:36,280 Speaker 7: excited to see his debut. Man, I think he could 1497 01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:39,400 Speaker 7: be something very special. He definitely is very very gifted. 1498 01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,920 Speaker 4: I like suspicient Ken Flow might have some sort of 1499 01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:48,559 Speaker 4: parlay built around Man's Abdul all Right shaw A Division 1500 01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,200 Speaker 4: fourteenth RANC Jillian Robertson Montes three ninety five taking on 1501 01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:54,639 Speaker 4: number thirteen Lauana Panero Piniero. Excuse me, he was plus 1502 01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:59,080 Speaker 4: three ten, so title contention. Finally here BP from the 1503 01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:02,320 Speaker 4: Roster State the Savage. Jillian Robertson eleven and six in 1504 01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:05,040 Speaker 4: the UFC, back to back wins, now polling onto Viata 1505 01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:09,400 Speaker 4: Michelle Waterson Gomez. She's still just twenty nine, coming up 1506 01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:12,400 Speaker 4: on seven years in the UFC in December. At a 1507 01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:16,040 Speaker 4: big chalk favorite here this weekend against the higher rank 1508 01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:19,280 Speaker 4: Brazilian VP. Lead us off here. If you'd be so kind, Yeah. 1509 01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:20,840 Speaker 3: If she was a lower number, I'd be putting a 1510 01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:21,680 Speaker 3: thousand dollars on her. 1511 01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:23,720 Speaker 13: I think she's an absolute lock this week, and I 1512 01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:26,519 Speaker 13: think Pinero is gonna want to grapple, and I think 1513 01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:29,000 Speaker 13: you don't want to grapple Robertson. Jillian Robertson is very 1514 01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:32,560 Speaker 13: crafty on the ground scrambles. She always putting you in 1515 01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:35,280 Speaker 13: a compromising position. She goes forward. She's not a grappler 1516 01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:37,760 Speaker 13: that just holds position. She's looking for to take you 1517 01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:39,680 Speaker 13: out of the fight. And as she gets more and 1518 01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,360 Speaker 13: more confident in the USC actually has fought just the 1519 01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:45,840 Speaker 13: fucking who's who in the two divisions. I think she's 1520 01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,120 Speaker 13: getting more confident in her skills in her game, and 1521 01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:49,880 Speaker 13: I like her heavy in this spot here. 1522 01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:51,080 Speaker 3: Minus three ninety. 1523 01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:53,560 Speaker 13: Five is tough, tough for me to reach for, but 1524 01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:55,160 Speaker 13: I mean, listen, if you've got the bankroll, I would 1525 01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:56,520 Speaker 13: do it, maybe even by submission. 1526 01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:58,680 Speaker 3: But I don't know what that prop is right now, 1527 01:10:58,800 --> 01:10:59,759 Speaker 3: but I'm gonna go Robertson. 1528 01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:03,040 Speaker 4: There aren't that many walkouts that I seek out. Jillian 1529 01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:07,439 Speaker 4: Robertson walking out to fifty cents Pimp is one of them. 1530 01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:10,160 Speaker 4: So Pedero can't flows dropped two in a row man 1531 01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,519 Speaker 4: to he Boss Angela Hill. She was finished in both 1532 01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:15,120 Speaker 4: of those fights, and those came on the heels of 1533 01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:17,280 Speaker 4: a split decision win over the Karate Haughty in a 1534 01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:20,280 Speaker 4: fight that truly could have gone either way. Price kind 1535 01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:22,880 Speaker 4: of feels right to me. Minus three ninety five or 1536 01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:25,400 Speaker 4: so for Jillian Robertson, Kenny, who do you love? 1537 01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:29,200 Speaker 7: This is a very interesting fight, man. You know, I 1538 01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:33,960 Speaker 7: feel like Luana Pinero has a lot of potential, a 1539 01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,720 Speaker 7: lot of pudanch okay, and I. 1540 01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:40,040 Speaker 6: Feel like, you know, she's just kind of waiting to 1541 01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:41,439 Speaker 6: kind of put it all together. 1542 01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:41,800 Speaker 2: You know. 1543 01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:46,960 Speaker 7: Sometimes it's her striking that fails her. Sometimes it's her conditioning, 1544 01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:51,360 Speaker 7: sometimes it's her pacing. But man, when she's putting together 1545 01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:54,280 Speaker 7: those judo throws, it is a thing of beauty and 1546 01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:57,120 Speaker 7: she has the toughness. She just has to be more 1547 01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:00,960 Speaker 7: technical and makes some better decisions during the fight. And 1548 01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:03,200 Speaker 7: when she does put it together, man, I think we're 1549 01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:06,280 Speaker 7: gonna see some amazing performances. We could see that here 1550 01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:09,760 Speaker 7: against Gillian Robertson. She's knocking on that door. But as 1551 01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,879 Speaker 7: Brian said, I think Robertson's gonna be the better ground 1552 01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:16,000 Speaker 7: grappler here. Whether she can put Pinero on her back 1553 01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:18,599 Speaker 7: or not, I'm not sure. I think she's gonna try, 1554 01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:20,519 Speaker 7: even if she has to maybe go to her back. 1555 01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:24,040 Speaker 7: I think Robertson is that good where she can get 1556 01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:26,640 Speaker 7: reversals off of her back, and I think about, you know, 1557 01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:29,360 Speaker 7: striking wise thereabout even Pinero might have a. 1558 01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:31,599 Speaker 6: Little bit more power, but she's a little bit more wild. 1559 01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:35,400 Speaker 7: Robertson has maybe more versatility, a little bit more technique. 1560 01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,320 Speaker 7: So I'm gonna lean the way of Robertson, but I 1561 01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:41,880 Speaker 7: do see some value in Pinero here, just consistency wise, 1562 01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:43,960 Speaker 7: I'll probably stick with Robertson. 1563 01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:47,800 Speaker 4: Though, masterfully done as usual. Ken Flowey now transition to 1564 01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:51,760 Speaker 4: the middleweight division. If you ain't Dutch, you ain't much. 1565 01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:55,679 Speaker 4: The UFC debut is here for r DR ride near 1566 01:12:56,120 --> 01:13:01,840 Speaker 4: de Ritter Modust two ninety eight taking Gerald Mershat, who 1567 01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:06,880 Speaker 4: is plus two forty so RDR bry fours one Championship 1568 01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:10,240 Speaker 4: two division champ seventeen to two is an MMA pro 1569 01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:13,559 Speaker 4: eleven career. Wins by submission, four wins by knockout. Good 1570 01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:15,320 Speaker 4: test for him right out of the shoot here in 1571 01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:19,040 Speaker 4: GM three, RDR has said same shit, different day, but 1572 01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:22,320 Speaker 4: he's a South Paw. I'm gonna choke this dude out here, right, 1573 01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:24,800 Speaker 4: Ken Flow, what do you have for us on this one? 1574 01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:26,000 Speaker 4: Brian Petree lead us off. 1575 01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:27,200 Speaker 3: This is my main event. 1576 01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:30,040 Speaker 13: No disrespect to magnium proptest. This this, this fight isn't 1577 01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:32,120 Speaker 13: what I'm looking forward to the most, because you know me. 1578 01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:32,760 Speaker 3: I'm a nerd. 1579 01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:35,040 Speaker 13: I dug into the old Reddit boys back in the 1580 01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:37,240 Speaker 13: day a couple of years ago. Hey, this RDR guy 1581 01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:39,800 Speaker 13: will be anybody. He'll be it, eusy at one eighty five, 1582 01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:41,280 Speaker 13: he'll be it. You know, I had to dig into 1583 01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:43,479 Speaker 13: this guy, not dude. I not think he'd beat easy, 1584 01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:47,160 Speaker 13: but he was very good. He's only lost a malclin twice. Right, 1585 01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:48,960 Speaker 13: he got knocked out, then he retired in the fight. 1586 01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:51,280 Speaker 13: When he did the second fight, the rematch, he did 1587 01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:52,760 Speaker 13: very well in that fight. He just you know, did 1588 01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:55,479 Speaker 13: have enough gas in him. But he's very good. He's 1589 01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:59,400 Speaker 13: six for rangey, his strikings becoming better. He's tough, he's durable, 1590 01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:02,200 Speaker 13: and he's crafty. You know, he's got an inverted triangle, 1591 01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:03,960 Speaker 13: he's got several dars chokes, he's got a lot of 1592 01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:07,240 Speaker 13: fancy submissions with those long legs and long arms. Thenientel 1593 01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:10,080 Speaker 13: GM three, this guy's a fucking man. Okay, let's just 1594 01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:13,680 Speaker 13: there's no cutting it about it. The mustache is glorious. 1595 01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:16,679 Speaker 13: He goes in there and he's in shape. And he fights, 1596 01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:18,759 Speaker 13: and he can beat anybody. He holds records in the UFC. 1597 01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:23,080 Speaker 13: He's been in the UFC forever and he's phenomenal. However, 1598 01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:26,080 Speaker 13: I just my m m A brain, my gambling brain. 1599 01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:29,400 Speaker 13: You know, when you get GM three at plus money, 1600 01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:31,519 Speaker 13: you want to take it. But I can't get there. 1601 01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:35,640 Speaker 13: I'm sorry, Gerald. I like I like ridder here. I 1602 01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:37,200 Speaker 13: think Ridders just goun be a little too much on 1603 01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:38,800 Speaker 13: the feet, and I think they're gonna play on the 1604 01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:40,280 Speaker 13: ground a little bit. And I think he's just gonna 1605 01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:43,120 Speaker 13: be a one step ahead of Meershard. I think Meershard 1606 01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:45,240 Speaker 13: has been, he has been, and I think he hasn't 1607 01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:47,800 Speaker 13: submitted before. And I'm a little worried about the chokes 1608 01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:51,160 Speaker 13: with him. But I hope I'm wrong, because god damn, 1609 01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:52,280 Speaker 13: what a glorious mustache. 1610 01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:54,040 Speaker 3: And I like him. I'm a fan of him. I 1611 01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:55,519 Speaker 3: just think this is a matchup for him. 1612 01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:59,559 Speaker 4: Ken Fow value proposition. Gerald Merschardt has made Better's money 1613 01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,320 Speaker 4: across UFC career. That has him twelve to nine and 1614 01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:06,400 Speaker 4: twenty one UFC appearances. Last fight at Epic upset win 1615 01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:09,040 Speaker 4: rallying past Edmund Shabazi, and that was August twenty fourth, 1616 01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:11,760 Speaker 4: and here he is right turning it around quickly, sort 1617 01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:15,519 Speaker 4: of a UFC Middleweight Division iron man. Two plus months later, 1618 01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:18,760 Speaker 4: he's won two straight by submission. Eleven submissions in the 1619 01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:21,960 Speaker 4: UFC puts GM three tied for third all time. He 1620 01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:25,840 Speaker 4: is thirty seven and seventeen as an MMA pro and 1621 01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:29,000 Speaker 4: not surprised, probably is he to see a plus number 1622 01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:30,519 Speaker 4: next to his name, Ken, fill your thoughts on the 1623 01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:32,160 Speaker 4: eighty five ers Well. 1624 01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:33,919 Speaker 7: I love the fact that he brought up the Shabazi 1625 01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:37,000 Speaker 7: in fight fight right his last fight, and that's one 1626 01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:39,479 Speaker 7: of those that you know, if you've watched his career, 1627 01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:42,280 Speaker 7: that is something I think a lot of UFC fans 1628 01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:48,440 Speaker 7: will always remember Meershard for coming back amidst some insane adversity. 1629 01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:51,439 Speaker 7: He took a lot of punishment round one, Round two, 1630 01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,640 Speaker 7: was able to come back and get the submission win. 1631 01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:56,600 Speaker 7: That arm triangle was a thing of beauty, and it 1632 01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:59,280 Speaker 7: just showed how damn tough he was. It looked like 1633 01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:02,439 Speaker 7: he was completely out of that fight, but he was not. 1634 01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:06,000 Speaker 7: And there's just a brilliant performance from him. 1635 01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:07,000 Speaker 8: Now. 1636 01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:09,680 Speaker 7: You know, when you see GM three, you know he 1637 01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:12,240 Speaker 7: always has his submissions in his back pocket. He could 1638 01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:15,720 Speaker 7: potentially pull that off here against the rider, but I 1639 01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:19,479 Speaker 7: think that the Ritter he's a little bit too athletic, 1640 01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:21,840 Speaker 7: or he's going to be certainly more athletic than GM 1641 01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:25,320 Speaker 7: three here, and I think the grapplings about comparable here. 1642 01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:28,120 Speaker 7: And that's where it's going to be tough. You know, 1643 01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:31,040 Speaker 7: Gerald isn't the fastest guy in the world, but he 1644 01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:33,120 Speaker 7: finds a way to get it done. If he can 1645 01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:36,040 Speaker 7: put the ridder on his back. I think the Dutchman's 1646 01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:38,320 Speaker 7: gonna have some problems there, especially if he's able to 1647 01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:39,280 Speaker 7: do it consistently. 1648 01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:43,200 Speaker 6: I do see value here with Gerald Meershardt, but. 1649 01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:46,519 Speaker 7: I think Nier de Ridder, if I said that correctly, 1650 01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:49,960 Speaker 7: should get the nod by the by decision. 1651 01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:52,720 Speaker 4: All right. That brings us to the Komane event. It 1652 01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:55,880 Speaker 4: was going to be Cody Garbrandton Miles Johns, but Cody 1653 01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:58,439 Speaker 4: no Love is a no go, so Komane event should 1654 01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:03,040 Speaker 4: be a frenetic affair at dannam Wait Bernardo so Pie 1655 01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:06,080 Speaker 4: minus three forty taken on Ricky Tertios plus two seventy. 1656 01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:11,000 Speaker 4: So so Pie's USC debut bro on short notice against 1657 01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:15,200 Speaker 4: an Acs Olivera was just insane. He reps All Stars 1658 01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:18,400 Speaker 4: MMA The Goat Shed so a good corner Andreas Michael 1659 01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:22,439 Speaker 4: Awesome Zati among others. There's a Kamzat Chimaiav connection there 1660 01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:24,519 Speaker 4: as well. He's still just twenty four years of age, 1661 01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:27,400 Speaker 4: but sustained a lot of concussive damage. Bry, I would 1662 01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:30,360 Speaker 4: think in that UFC debut, what do you think in 1663 01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:32,920 Speaker 4: terms of the sophomore effort here? He's minus three forty 1664 01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:33,800 Speaker 4: against Tertios. 1665 01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:36,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I really liked him in that Olivera fight, but 1666 01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:38,080 Speaker 3: you know, and he was doing well and then he 1667 01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:38,640 Speaker 3: just ran in. 1668 01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:40,240 Speaker 13: I mean, well, he started getting pieced up a little 1669 01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:42,160 Speaker 13: bit and just ran into a fuck and not really 1670 01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:44,800 Speaker 13: ran into it. He collided with a knee. I think 1671 01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:47,280 Speaker 13: he's very good. I think his cardio checks all the 1672 01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:49,519 Speaker 13: boxes that I want to see in his overall games. 1673 01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:51,479 Speaker 13: Good Tertios, this guy's a wild man. 1674 01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:51,680 Speaker 11: Though. 1675 01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:54,280 Speaker 13: Yes, he just got choked out by Rojas Junior. He 1676 01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:55,680 Speaker 13: didn't look great in that fight. He got kind of 1677 01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:57,800 Speaker 13: pitted to the ground and got a little outmuscled, which 1678 01:17:57,880 --> 01:17:59,560 Speaker 13: was a little surprising. I mean, Ross Junior is a 1679 01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:01,880 Speaker 13: big kid for division, but Tertios is kind of a 1680 01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:04,200 Speaker 13: guy that's gonna cast you your check, cast you your 1681 01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:06,360 Speaker 13: tickets on the over. He's not gonna get finished. He's 1682 01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:08,760 Speaker 13: not gonna finish anybody over two and a half. It's 1683 01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:10,599 Speaker 13: going to be to play here. That's gonna be a lot. 1684 01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:12,880 Speaker 3: Put it on there. It's gonna be heavy, but put 1685 01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:13,560 Speaker 3: the money on it. 1686 01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:16,760 Speaker 13: And you know, I would like to go Totios here, 1687 01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:18,120 Speaker 13: but I guess I'm being a little bit of a 1688 01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:20,240 Speaker 13: bitch and a little bit of a soy boy. I 1689 01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:22,720 Speaker 13: won't go all dogs here. I'm gonna go sopaj. I 1690 01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:24,120 Speaker 13: think he's the better fighter. 1691 01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:25,479 Speaker 3: He has to prove it. 1692 01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:27,519 Speaker 13: Doesn't have a UFC win yet, even though you look 1693 01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:31,160 Speaker 13: good concerning the highlight rerol knockout. He's gonna have to 1694 01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:32,360 Speaker 13: prove it here, and I think he can prove it 1695 01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:35,360 Speaker 13: against Totios. I think Tertios is just an okay kind 1696 01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:36,680 Speaker 13: of guy, and this is a good way to go 1697 01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:38,519 Speaker 13: prove it. But he could get drowned as well at 1698 01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:39,120 Speaker 13: that high pace. 1699 01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:42,760 Speaker 4: So give me so much kent flow Ricky Tertios one 1700 01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:45,640 Speaker 4: and two since winning the Ultimate Fighter, will see the 1701 01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:47,919 Speaker 4: extent to which he can respond here to that submission 1702 01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:52,880 Speaker 4: loss to the Chi Weewies guy Raoul Rosas junior Kent Flow, 1703 01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:54,120 Speaker 4: What do you have for us on the komain? 1704 01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:57,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, Tertios is very game. 1705 01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:58,000 Speaker 3: He's a tough dude. 1706 01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:00,479 Speaker 7: He does not want to go away easily. You know, 1707 01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:02,479 Speaker 7: He's got some skills on the feet, got some skills 1708 01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:05,240 Speaker 7: on the ground. He's a little too wild for my liking, however, 1709 01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:09,040 Speaker 7: because he then gets exposed on a technical level, and 1710 01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:11,599 Speaker 7: sometimes some of the decisions he makes during the fight, 1711 01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:13,760 Speaker 7: he lets his emotions kind of lead the way a 1712 01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:16,639 Speaker 7: little bit, and that has served him well at times. 1713 01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:19,080 Speaker 7: But once you start getting against the kind of the 1714 01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:21,960 Speaker 7: more elite guys in the UFC, that can cost you. 1715 01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:23,840 Speaker 7: And I think that could cost him here because so 1716 01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:27,479 Speaker 7: pie from what I saw, you know, in his previous 1717 01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:30,400 Speaker 7: fights before he got into the UFC, and even his 1718 01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:33,719 Speaker 7: last fight, there were some flashes of flashes of brilliance. 1719 01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:36,800 Speaker 7: This guy is extremely athletic. He is very good on 1720 01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:39,960 Speaker 7: the feet. He has very good takedowns, good positioning. I 1721 01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:43,320 Speaker 7: don't think he paced himself properly, and I think, speaking 1722 01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:45,720 Speaker 7: of emotions, he let his emotions kind of maybe get 1723 01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:48,040 Speaker 7: the better of him in that fight kind of went 1724 01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:51,760 Speaker 7: into automatic pilot and realized he was a little bit 1725 01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:54,240 Speaker 7: too tired at a certain point in that fight and 1726 01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:57,759 Speaker 7: really paid for it in a devastating knee, a flying 1727 01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:01,160 Speaker 7: knee knockout, one of the worst that I've seen. Assuming 1728 01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:04,800 Speaker 7: he has recovered from that, I think so Pie, you know, 1729 01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:06,720 Speaker 7: if you're gonna make a mistake like that, you do 1730 01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:09,320 Speaker 7: that you have in your UFC debut and you come 1731 01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:11,519 Speaker 7: back strong. I think we see a big performance here 1732 01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:13,800 Speaker 7: from so Paulie, and I think he's gonna be someone 1733 01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:15,000 Speaker 7: to watch in the future as well. 1734 01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:18,560 Speaker 4: Nice All right, right back to can Flow on the 1735 01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:23,599 Speaker 4: main event, UFC Fight Night Magni versus Protests, and perhaps 1736 01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:25,880 Speaker 4: your Rookie of the Year Hardware is going to go 1737 01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:30,479 Speaker 4: to the Nightmare Carlos Protests walterwait division here Kenny Carlos 1738 01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:33,559 Speaker 4: protest Monus eight hundred, number fifteen. Neil Magni is plus 1739 01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:37,200 Speaker 4: six point fifty, so Protests all the rage at present, 1740 01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:39,519 Speaker 4: thirty one years of age, really coming into his own 1741 01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:42,040 Speaker 4: three and zero thus far in the UFC, with as 1742 01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:45,000 Speaker 4: many knockouts all of them here this year, Trevin Giles, 1743 01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:49,559 Speaker 4: Chuck Buffalo, Lee Jing Leung and now his first UFC 1744 01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:52,439 Speaker 4: Man event can flow against Neil Magni. Your thoughts. 1745 01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:56,880 Speaker 7: I'm really excited to see how protest does here against 1746 01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:59,680 Speaker 7: a real veteran in Magni, a guy who has been 1747 01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:03,160 Speaker 7: around the block and then some. He knows how to 1748 01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:08,240 Speaker 7: also surprise people in these spots. And every time I 1749 01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:11,320 Speaker 7: go back and I watch a protest fight, and that's 1750 01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:15,439 Speaker 7: what I did this morning, for whatever reason, I don't 1751 01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:17,479 Speaker 7: come away so crazy and pressed. 1752 01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:20,600 Speaker 6: The finishes are beautiful. He executes. 1753 01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:25,160 Speaker 7: When he gets you hurt, it's awesome, But up until then, 1754 01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:28,040 Speaker 7: it's it's kind of like it almost seems like kind 1755 01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:30,400 Speaker 7: of an easy, like a like a back and forth fight, 1756 01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:32,760 Speaker 7: like he takes a lot of shots that maybe he 1757 01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:37,080 Speaker 7: shouldn't and it's not like for me when I see it, 1758 01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:40,240 Speaker 7: I don't see a clean, clean performance where it just 1759 01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:44,040 Speaker 7: looks like he dominates start to finish and makes it 1760 01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:47,880 Speaker 7: look easy. He is a potent striker and when he 1761 01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:49,920 Speaker 7: gets you hurt, he knows how to take you out. 1762 01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:50,720 Speaker 3: That I love. 1763 01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:53,400 Speaker 7: And if he does that against Magne here, for sure 1764 01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:57,320 Speaker 7: he could win. But do not underestimate Magne. Magne's ability 1765 01:21:57,360 --> 01:21:59,920 Speaker 7: to jab you from the outside, and Magne's a ville 1766 01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:03,080 Speaker 7: ability to make it a grind up against the cage 1767 01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:05,360 Speaker 7: to put you on your back and make your life 1768 01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:08,400 Speaker 7: miserable there. And and Pratice, we've seen him on the 1769 01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:12,880 Speaker 7: feet and he's good there on the ground. I don't 1770 01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:16,160 Speaker 7: think he's great there. And Magni can give you problems, 1771 01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:20,160 Speaker 7: especially a guy like this. And you know, I'm not 1772 01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:22,720 Speaker 7: necessarily saying I'm going to put money. We will see 1773 01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:25,240 Speaker 7: what happens later. But I do see some value on 1774 01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:29,519 Speaker 7: Magne here at plus six fifty plus six fifty guys, 1775 01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:34,559 Speaker 7: I mean number maybe maybe, but protest is certainly dangerous. 1776 01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:37,519 Speaker 7: I'm not sure it warrants the minus eight hundred against 1777 01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:38,599 Speaker 7: someone like Magne, though. 1778 01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:42,960 Speaker 4: Huge number on Carlos protests and climbing right now on 1779 01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:47,320 Speaker 4: Draftking sportsbook and flow. This city in sal Polo spelled 1780 01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:54,320 Speaker 4: tau b a te tal boch tal botch no tal botch. 1781 01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:58,800 Speaker 7: You'll probably tall batch tlo on the map courtesy at 1782 01:22:58,800 --> 01:22:59,840 Speaker 7: Carlos protests. 1783 01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:03,000 Speaker 4: And I like hearing Kenny peel back the film Brie right, 1784 01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:06,759 Speaker 4: because protests I referred to as being all the rage. 1785 01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:09,719 Speaker 4: But I think when sharp minds peel back the film, 1786 01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:14,040 Speaker 4: it isn't necessarily something that is perfect and certainly Christian 1787 01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:16,200 Speaker 4: Allen and Neil Magni can peel it apart a little bit. 1788 01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:18,280 Speaker 4: A few things on Magnie if I could real quick, BP. 1789 01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:20,439 Speaker 4: We're still holding on to a ranking number fifteen in 1790 01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:23,280 Speaker 4: the world. Twenty two UFC wins have him tied with 1791 01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:27,200 Speaker 4: Max Holloway, Charles Olavera, Dustin Poorier, and Damien Maia for 1792 01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:30,360 Speaker 4: fourth all time. He was stopped by Michael Morales his 1793 01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:31,960 Speaker 4: last time out, but he did begin the year with 1794 01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:35,680 Speaker 4: that upset win over Mike Mallott, right, so still wicked competitive. 1795 01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:38,400 Speaker 4: He is now thirty seven years old in a UFC 1796 01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:41,240 Speaker 4: tenure that dates to UFC won fifty seven and twenty thirteen. 1797 01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:44,160 Speaker 4: And I bring up twenty thirteen because incidentally, that was 1798 01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:47,840 Speaker 4: the last time in a year in which Magni lost 1799 01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:49,519 Speaker 4: two in a row. He looks to avoid that fate 1800 01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:52,439 Speaker 4: this weekend as a huge underdog BP. How to see 1801 01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:53,320 Speaker 4: the main event plan out. 1802 01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:54,960 Speaker 13: And we just talked a couple of weeks ago, Neil 1803 01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:57,800 Speaker 13: Magnie is gonna meal meal Neil Magni, Right, We were 1804 01:23:57,880 --> 01:23:59,879 Speaker 13: trying to add that as a verb there in Magni 1805 01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:03,400 Speaker 13: somebody I love protests, right. Protest is a you know, 1806 01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:06,040 Speaker 13: he smokes, heaters, he burns one, you know what I mean, 1807 01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:09,320 Speaker 13: loves his mom, got a coachery and like he parties hard. 1808 01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:09,840 Speaker 3: He admits it. 1809 01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:10,040 Speaker 2: Right. 1810 01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:12,599 Speaker 13: I don't know how sustainable that's gonna be, but he's 1811 01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:13,960 Speaker 13: phenomenal when he gets in there. 1812 01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:15,760 Speaker 3: And I saw something different when I watched the film. 1813 01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:17,960 Speaker 13: Like Kenny Kenny saw a guy that likes to create 1814 01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:20,479 Speaker 13: a broad I see a guy that's just very calm, right, 1815 01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:22,120 Speaker 13: that could bite him in the butt as well. 1816 01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:23,960 Speaker 3: Like you're calm, You're like, I'll make control. I can 1817 01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:24,639 Speaker 3: take these shots. 1818 01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:26,720 Speaker 13: Either you get clipped or you know, in the round 1819 01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:28,479 Speaker 13: ends and you're like, oh shit, I'm three rounds behind 1820 01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:30,240 Speaker 13: or whatever the case. But I see a guy that's 1821 01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:32,240 Speaker 13: calm in there, that knows his skills, that knows that 1822 01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:35,200 Speaker 13: left hands botent. I love watching the southtball work. He's 1823 01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:37,720 Speaker 13: a long, rangy guy that actually knows how to use 1824 01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:39,960 Speaker 13: his range with the jumping knees. When you think you're 1825 01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:41,960 Speaker 13: out of range, he jumps in and needs you right 1826 01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:44,200 Speaker 13: to the solar plexus like he did Chuck Buffalow. The 1827 01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:47,800 Speaker 13: guy's really really good. But listen, Magni is gonna want 1828 01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:49,920 Speaker 13: to clinch. He's gonna make it ugly. He's gonna wanna 1829 01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:51,800 Speaker 13: get you to the ground and beat you up. That's 1830 01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:55,400 Speaker 13: how Magne's gonna get this fight done. However, Magni as 1831 01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:57,880 Speaker 13: he goes on, is a little bit hittable now right 1832 01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:00,400 Speaker 13: His defense isn't there. I don't know if it's ability 1833 01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:01,559 Speaker 13: is there as much as it used to be. At 1834 01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:04,439 Speaker 13: being f thirty seven, he could still easily win this fight. Then, 1835 01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:06,360 Speaker 13: I encourage everyone out there, if you got ten bucks, 1836 01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:08,760 Speaker 13: you got twenty bucks, maybe thrown on Neil Magni six 1837 01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:10,599 Speaker 13: to one on your money. That's not a bad price. 1838 01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:13,280 Speaker 13: I can't get there on protests because I looked at 1839 01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:16,120 Speaker 13: him by knockout. It's currently minus four hundred, which again 1840 01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:17,920 Speaker 13: I'm not playing a prop at minus four to one. 1841 01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:18,720 Speaker 3: I'm not doing it. 1842 01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:22,320 Speaker 13: He's overhyped, or excuse me, he's overpriced. In my opinion 1843 01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:24,360 Speaker 13: right now, I don't think he's overhyped. I think he's 1844 01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:26,920 Speaker 13: very very good. I like protest. I'm picking protest. I 1845 01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:28,639 Speaker 13: can tell you right now it won't be betting protests. 1846 01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:32,360 Speaker 4: Carlos Protests saying this week that there was a Randy 1847 01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:35,479 Speaker 4: Brown fight at Madison Square Garden that nearly came together, 1848 01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:38,000 Speaker 4: and he felt like that fight was actually easier than 1849 01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:41,040 Speaker 4: this one against Neil Magne. Time will tell as the apex, 1850 01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:43,599 Speaker 4: I believe is the venue that opens up for these 1851 01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:46,320 Speaker 4: gentlemen this weekend, if I'm not mistaken after Edmonton last week. 1852 01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:49,080 Speaker 4: All right, let us update the standings real quickly before 1853 01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:54,240 Speaker 4: we get into the bets again. Team Petree was minus 1854 01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:56,800 Speaker 4: forty one dollars in change, but you're in the red 1855 01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:59,120 Speaker 4: no more. A couple of straight wager hits five hundred 1856 01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:02,160 Speaker 4: on Mike Malott minus two sixty five that paid one 1857 01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:04,920 Speaker 4: eighty eight sixty eight, and then the straight wager whack 1858 01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:07,080 Speaker 4: on amans A Hobby five hundred paid you five fifty. 1859 01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:09,280 Speaker 4: He was plus one ten, so plus seven thirty eight 1860 01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:12,880 Speaker 4: sixty eight for BP, and that Black Yere todate you 1861 01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:17,920 Speaker 4: plus six ninety seven oh seven. Team Florian year to 1862 01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:20,160 Speaker 4: date was minus two sixty six eighty when one and 1863 01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:23,320 Speaker 4: two on the week Derek Lewis wager was no actioned. 1864 01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:26,840 Speaker 4: You lost one hundred dollars on Roseeno Nomi unis five 1865 01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:29,280 Speaker 4: hundred on Amerel Bosi, but you did hit from two 1866 01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:31,000 Speaker 4: hundred on amans A hobby that paid you two to 1867 01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:33,160 Speaker 4: twenty for the week minus three eighty year to date 1868 01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:37,160 Speaker 4: minus six forty six eighty the lead for Patrie thirteen 1869 01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:40,720 Speaker 4: forty three and eighty seven cents. But as you guys know, 1870 01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:43,679 Speaker 4: we've had some wild swings over the last six weeks 1871 01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:46,000 Speaker 4: or so. 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All right, place your 1880 01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:15,280 Speaker 4: bets one thousand dollars for UFC Fight Night Magni Versus 1881 01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:19,200 Speaker 4: Protests next week. Of course, it is UFC three zero nine, 1882 01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:22,599 Speaker 4: and you will receive two thousand dollars for this week, 1883 01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:25,080 Speaker 4: just one band, Briy. Yeah, how are you're spreading out 1884 01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:25,599 Speaker 4: your cash? 1885 01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:25,880 Speaker 2: Kid? 1886 01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:27,560 Speaker 13: I'm kind of glad it's one bang. A lot of 1887 01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:29,920 Speaker 13: these lines are wide. I had a dig heat, dig 1888 01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:32,720 Speaker 13: deep here. So since I'm going against my boy GM three, 1889 01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:35,080 Speaker 13: I'm going against that fucking true blood American, I gotta 1890 01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:36,559 Speaker 13: put my money where I'm out this. So I'm gonna 1891 01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:40,800 Speaker 13: go five on it on RDR by double chance. So 1892 01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:44,000 Speaker 13: it's a double chance bet on DraftKings. Right now, it's 1893 01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:47,680 Speaker 13: plus one hundred odds double chance for him to win 1894 01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:50,000 Speaker 13: by ko or submission. I think he gets it out 1895 01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:51,680 Speaker 13: of there. I can see a TKO hoppening. I can 1896 01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:54,360 Speaker 13: see a submission happening. Okay, So that's five hundred dollars. 1897 01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:56,840 Speaker 13: And then if we traveled down the card a little bit, John, 1898 01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:59,679 Speaker 13: follow me here, we're gonna go five hundred on Chuck Buffalo. 1899 01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:01,080 Speaker 3: Five hundred Chuck Buffalo. 1900 01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:04,040 Speaker 13: Him again, Saladsburger is gonna be It's gonna be nasty, 1901 01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:06,000 Speaker 13: But I think Chuck Buffalo is a little more nastier 1902 01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:07,559 Speaker 13: Chuck Buffalo. 1903 01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:11,639 Speaker 4: Charles Radkey fighting Matthew Sembelsberger. What a matchup, by the way, 1904 01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:15,320 Speaker 4: great fight, What an absolute bad I have the line. 1905 01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:16,599 Speaker 3: Currently at minus one sixty two. 1906 01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:18,800 Speaker 4: John, Sorry, I will say, oh you're good. I'll take 1907 01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:22,040 Speaker 4: your word for it, all right, can't flow thousand dollars 1908 01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:24,160 Speaker 4: to play with who do you like? 1909 01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:28,280 Speaker 7: Yes, sir, uh, let's do a two fight parlay for 1910 01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:32,679 Speaker 7: nine hundred dollars. We're going to put uh, We're gonna 1911 01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:38,559 Speaker 7: put Abdul Malick, Nice and Soapie on that parlay to win, 1912 01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:42,599 Speaker 7: and then we're gonna put one hundred dollars on mister 1913 01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:43,600 Speaker 7: Neil Man. 1914 01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:48,200 Speaker 4: Let's go, Neil, there you go. Wouldn't that be something 1915 01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:52,040 Speaker 4: if Neil Magni somehow Someway doesn't. What more from Brian 1916 01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:54,880 Speaker 4: Petrie on his own podcast, the MMA Takes Podcast. You 1917 01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:57,479 Speaker 4: can followhim my on exit. Brian Petrie, Mma, my man, 1918 01:28:57,640 --> 01:29:00,640 Speaker 4: have a great rest of your day. We appreciate contributions. 1919 01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:03,000 Speaker 4: Quick term. We'll talk to you live Monday to look 1920 01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:04,120 Speaker 4: at UFC three oh nine. 1921 01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:04,439 Speaker 8: My man. 1922 01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:06,080 Speaker 3: Sounds good boys, looking forward to it. 1923 01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:09,439 Speaker 4: There he is Cincinnati's fines Brian paching with us here 1924 01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:11,240 Speaker 4: on the Anak and Florian podcast And just like that, 1925 01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:14,880 Speaker 4: another light episode, live episode, I should say is in 1926 01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:19,280 Speaker 4: the books. We will be back on Monday, full preview 1927 01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:22,439 Speaker 4: with predictions for UFC three oh nine Jones versus Meat Chich. 1928 01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:24,439 Speaker 4: I am looking right now at the second iteration of 1929 01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:27,320 Speaker 4: the fight card. We are very excited for that. Don't 1930 01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:29,880 Speaker 4: forget remember the show with Bala Muhammad and Jason Anik 1931 01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:32,519 Speaker 4: over on the Anak Andpflorying podcast YouTube channel. Blaw with 1932 01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:36,679 Speaker 4: some extensive comments about his infection and condition last week, 1933 01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:39,000 Speaker 4: so be sure you check that out as well. Also 1934 01:29:39,080 --> 01:29:40,960 Speaker 4: over on the odd Shark YouTube page. If you are 1935 01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:42,920 Speaker 4: an NFL fan, My twin brother and I go head 1936 01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:45,400 Speaker 4: to head with our weekly NFL picks every week and 1937 01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:47,760 Speaker 4: U Jay win five and zero once again in week nine, 1938 01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:50,960 Speaker 4: so he's probably worth talent. Also, don't forget Kenny Florian 1939 01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:54,120 Speaker 4: dot com is live as well and we can't wait 1940 01:29:54,160 --> 01:29:55,960 Speaker 4: to talk with all of you fine folks coming up 1941 01:29:56,200 --> 01:29:59,160 Speaker 4: on Monday. Thanks to everybody tuning in live and otherwise. 1942 01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:01,880 Speaker 4: Our producer is Cody Merrow. Thank you to our guest 1943 01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:04,400 Speaker 4: Ray Longo the General Safe so I would BP as well. 1944 01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:08,400 Speaker 4: For kemp Flum John Anick, Oh, don't forget Next Friday, 1945 01:30:08,439 --> 01:30:10,160 Speaker 4: by the way, we have an appearance I think like 1946 01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:12,400 Speaker 4: nine thirty to one am in New York City, So 1947 01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:15,000 Speaker 4: details to come on that coming up next Monday. That's 1948 01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:17,439 Speaker 4: what Cuervo. Stay tuned for that for kemp Flum John Anick. 1949 01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:19,639 Speaker 4: Now we're really getting out of here. Tell your friends 1950 01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:21,800 Speaker 4: about the show. If you're so inclined, you'll fucking live 1951 01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:42,280 Speaker 2: Gone Bread