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Speaker 1: Hi, This is Kyles Forber and welcome to the Philly Show. Hi, everybody,

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Speaker 1: Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd Zo Lecky. It's the

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Speaker 1: Philly Show. It's Memorial Day. It is Monday, May twenty six,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. Just Jim and I today Rubens. Ruben's

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Speaker 1: on assignment. Ruben's on a secret assignment.

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Speaker 2: Actually, I think I think I think I found I

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Speaker 2: know where he is.

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Speaker 3: You do I think he eloped this weekend. He looked

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Speaker 3: I think he might have. So we'll have to get down.

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Speaker 2: We'll have to get the details when he pokes his

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Speaker 2: head up back.

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Speaker 1: Up on here on the eighteenth Green. How are you doing,

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Speaker 1: Jim Mori day weekend?

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Speaker 2: Good so far. I'm bueno.

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Speaker 3: I was thinking about how Chile it's been that. Do

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Speaker 3: you remember when Roy hollow I was pitching for the Phillies.

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Speaker 3: It was probably his second year here, so that would

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Speaker 3: have been twenty eleven. We were in National's Ballpark, Washington

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Speaker 3: Nationals Ballpark on Memorial Day, so it would have been

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Speaker 3: what fourteen years ago today, right, And it was so hot,

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Speaker 3: it was hot, stiflingly human in DC and he was pitching.

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Speaker 3: I want to see if my memory's right, Okay, it

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Speaker 3: was definitely Memorial Day weekend.

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Speaker 2: I believe it was a Memorial Day.

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Speaker 3: He was, you know, dripping sweat, and he changed his

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Speaker 3: uniform between innings. You could tell because when it gets

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Speaker 3: that gray uniform gets sweaty, it gets dark.

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Speaker 2: And he came out in like the sixth inning, with

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Speaker 3: He changed in between innings from head to toe and

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Speaker 3: came back out and pitched. I asked him about I

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Speaker 3: think he said every he it socks. Everything was soaking wet.

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Speaker 3: And he didn't even tell, like the clubhouse guy, that

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Speaker 3: I'm coming in to change, so the guy would every

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Speaker 3: thing ready for him. I mean, imagine if it was

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Speaker 3: a quick gaming, you wouldn't have been ready. Do you

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Speaker 3: remember that game?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 1: In the time you mentioned Memorial Day, I hopped on

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Speaker 1: and I pulled up that start. May thirtieth, twenty eleven,

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Speaker 1: Roy Halliday seven innings, ten hits, four runs, five strikeouts.

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Speaker 1: Game time temperature ninety two degrees. Jim, so you are.

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Speaker 2: Right ninety two and very humor was hotter. Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 3: He in DC is so hot and it was just

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Speaker 3: like his early heat wave. And I just remember him

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Speaker 3: coming out with a whole fresh uniform. I just thought

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Speaker 3: it was remarkable that he did that between innings.

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Speaker 1: Didn't he do that quite a bit?

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Speaker 2: I thought he had, like I think.

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Speaker 1: He changed his shirt shirts underneath. He roy would change

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Speaker 1: T shirts every few innings.

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Speaker 2: He went head to toe.

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Speaker 3: It was so humid, okay, and he was just you know,

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Speaker 3: you know how he I mean, he was always sweating

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Speaker 1: And he I do remember him changed. He had the

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Speaker 1: didn't he have like the almost like a half sleeve

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Speaker 1: Nike T shirt? And I believe Phil Sheard in the

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Speaker 1: Phillies clubhouse guys said that they stopped he grabbed like

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Speaker 1: a whole bunch of those T shirts because at one

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Speaker 1: point Nike stopped making him, and so he loved that

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Speaker 1: T shirt. And so I think he had like several

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Speaker 1: ready to rock and roll for for his starts, because

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Speaker 3: The reason I'm thinking of that is because one, it's

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Speaker 3: Memorial Day. Two like it's been in the he's been

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Speaker 3: chili this weekend, Like you know, I'm waiting for the

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Speaker 3: garden to explode, and.

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Speaker 2: It's just not warm, not hot enough anyway, you're right,

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Speaker 2: You're right.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's so you have a great memory. Man,

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Speaker 1: I will tell you that I would have never remembered

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Speaker 1: Roy Halley Memorial. They started twenty eleven, but man, you

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Speaker 1: nailed at ninety two degrees first pitch. Mm hmmm, Phillies.

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Speaker 1: I think they Yeah, they won that game.

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Speaker 2: Much perspiration, much.

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Speaker 1: Phillies, Jim.

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Speaker 2: They lost on some day to the A's.

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Speaker 1: They snap their nine game winning streak, but they go

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Speaker 1: six and one on the road trip at Memorial Day, Jim.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned in the last episode, once it hits Memorial Day,

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Speaker 1: you can no longer say it as early.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't enough.

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Speaker 1: Of the you know, you gotta let them ease into

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Speaker 1: But so we're at Memorial Day.

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Speaker 3: Phillies, And I do think baseball, you know, there is

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Speaker 3: an element and this irks a lot of fans, but

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Speaker 2: It's like, you know, I think in.

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Speaker 3: A lot of sports, you know you're going zero to

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Speaker 3: more like zero to sixty fifteen seconds, right, And this

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Speaker 2: In the good lane right now.

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Speaker 3: I mean they're twenty one and five, right, twenty one

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Speaker 2: I wrote it down?

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Speaker 3: Twenty one is six, twenty one and six since they

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Speaker 2: So they're twenty one and six in their last twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: That's and when I look at the standings, you know

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Speaker 3: what kind of really jumped out at me this morning.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why this jumped out at me.

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Speaker 3: They have the best record of the majors, which is

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Speaker 3: where they were last year at this time. But they

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Speaker 3: has not hit twenty losses yet.

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Speaker 2: It's like that nineteen just jumps out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're right. Yeah, they're thirty four to nineteen,

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Speaker 1: best record in baseball. They've got a two game lead

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Speaker 1: about a month ago, a little more than a month ago,

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Speaker 1: everybody was finished with Rob Thompson, you know, Alec Bohm,

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Speaker 1: They ran it back and it's failed. And and you know,

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Speaker 1: you and I are not saying that, oh, they're they're

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Speaker 1: going to win the World Series, yes, or anything like that,

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Speaker 1: but you know, you have to let things develop. And

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Speaker 1: I've mentioned this a couple of times since he's been on,

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Speaker 1: but I just so much loved the line that Mark

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Speaker 1: Seems like the Phillies have done that, you know. And

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Speaker 1: and I looked up a few things this morning because

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Speaker 1: the Rockies, and the A's three teams that all have

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Speaker 1: losing records, and now you know who have the Phillies played?

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Speaker 1: Who have the Phillies played? But they are so they're

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Speaker 1: Are right in Major League Baseball, second best record major

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Speaker 1: League Baseball. They're thirteen and twelve against teams with winning records.

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Speaker 1: That's the seventh best record in baseball. And you look

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Speaker 1: with winning records. In other words, just relax, enjoy the rock.

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Speaker 3: You know, all good teams beat up on bad teams,

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Speaker 3: right right, and they you know, you hold your own

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Speaker 2: It's kind of like the you know, the saying, you know,

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Speaker 3: At home and then you know, on the road, a

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Speaker 2: Get you where you need to go, so right, it's

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Speaker 2: kind of like that.

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Speaker 3: But I mean the Cubs, the Yankees, the Dodgers, they're

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Dodgers right now are only eight and eight

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Speaker 1: Mighty Dodgers eight billion dollars pay roll, they're not exactly

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Speaker 1: crushing teams. The nineteen eighty Phillies jim were finished the

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Speaker 1: winning records. The two thousand and eight Phillies the only

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Speaker 1: just got to get into the postseason, Get into the postseason,

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Speaker 1: play your best baseball, and you see where it takes

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Speaker 1: you the twenty twenty two Phillies. They snuck into the postseason,

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Speaker 1: they did not beat winning teams during the regular season,

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Speaker 2: Ever, So yeah, and I agree with you.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just the way I think the game

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Speaker 3: has evolved in the postseason.

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Speaker 2: Tournament has evolved.

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Speaker 3: There's more teams have gotten in, and the tournament has

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Speaker 2: It's a month, it's a little more than a month, and.

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Speaker 3: Get in, get hot, And like you said, twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: I mean they barely got in.

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Speaker 3: They were the last team in, and they got in

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Speaker 2: Last couple of years.

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Speaker 3: They get in handily and have you know, the best

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Speaker 3: that's kind of the way things have evolved now as

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Speaker 3: twelve teams have gotten in the tournament. Yes, you know,

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Speaker 3: I look at all anybody who gets in has a

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Speaker 3: you can you can do some damage in the month

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Speaker 3: of October. So once again, I mean, the Phillies is

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Speaker 3: sitting here on Memorial Day with the best record in baseball.

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Speaker 2: And that's fun and it's cool.

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Speaker 3: You know, you have a six and one road trip,

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Speaker 3: twenty one and seven stretch, whatever they are, that's great,

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Speaker 3: But it's still the way this team is constructed, with

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Speaker 3: Semantics say, hey, sus Lozardo best pitching pickup and Zach

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Speaker 3: You know that he's he's he's got that good kind

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Speaker 1: and he can get some swing and miss with it.

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Speaker 1: And that is why he is so good, because he

438
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Speaker 1: is a pitcher's pitcher that also happens to throw ninety

439
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Speaker 1: seven ninety eight miles an hour. You know, it's it's

440
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Speaker 1: so much fun to watch. And Lozarto, you know, he

441
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Speaker 1: adds a sweeper in the off season. He goes to

442
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Speaker 1: the Phillies and says, I want a new pitch, I

443
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Speaker 1: need something else. And the sweeper's been absolutely fantastic for him.

444
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Speaker 1: And those guys what a heck of a one two punch.

445
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Speaker 1: They have been.

446
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Speaker 3: So, Yeah, you mentioned Wheeler having all that that repertoire

447
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 3: and leaning on it all kind of equally. All that's

448
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Speaker 3: in the back of the hitter's mind when he steps

449
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Speaker 3: in the box. You know what am I going to get?

450
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Speaker 3: You know, it's like opening a box of chocolates? You

451
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Speaker 3: know what am I going to get? And he's he's dynamite,

452
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 3: He's uh And you know you talk about I said,

453
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 3: looks like Lizarda loves being a Philly. Zach Wheeler loves

454
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Speaker 3: being a Philly because he's gotten so much better here

455
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Speaker 3: and he's bonded with the pitching coach and the analytics people.

456
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 3: I'll never forget his first press conference here when he

457
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Speaker 3: was introduced, when you know Matt Clintax signed him, he

458
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Speaker 3: said he was eager to see what the Phillies analytics

459
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Speaker 3: folks could help him with and do for his career.

460
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Speaker 3: So it's been a really group effort between there. He's

461
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Speaker 3: been healthy and he's gotten better. So everybody's had a

462
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Speaker 3: little bit of part of the training crew, the analytics crew,

463
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Speaker 3: the pitching coaches, and Zach obviously Zach himself, like Schwarber,

464
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Speaker 3: a great signing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so we got a few more things I want

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Speaker 1: to talk about, like maybe biggest surprise, biggest disappointment, biggest

467
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Speaker 1: We're back, Jim. Biggest surprise through Memorial Day for the Phillies.

487
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Speaker 1: For me, there is one guy and one guy only,

488
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Speaker 1: and that is Taiwan Walker.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean I would have to agree with your biggest

491
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Speaker 3: positive surprise.

492
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Speaker 2: I mean i'd have to say I'm.

493
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Speaker 3: Surprised Aaron Nola has struggled as much as he did,

494
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 3: but focusing on a well deserved thumbs up.

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Speaker 2: Taiwan Walker.

496
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Taiwan Walker.

497
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Speaker 3: We thought maybe he'd be released last year. We didn't

498
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Speaker 3: know if he'd be in clear Water. I remember saying that, like,

499
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's going to be in clear Water.

500
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 3: And he's really pleasant surprise taking the ball six starts.

501
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 3: They went three and three in those six starts. Now

502
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 3: he's in the bullpen and he's you know, getting some

503
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 3: important outs and maybe even more important innings down the stretch.

504
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 3: But just the fact that he after really a lost

505
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 3: year in twenty twenty four, they're really getting a nice

506
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Speaker 3: contribution from him, and it says a lot about his

507
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 3: character that, you know, this guy who was you know,

508
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 3: like booed in spring training. Nobody gets booed in spring training.

509
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 3: It's down the you know, the sun is shining, the

510
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,959
Speaker 3: palm trees are out, people eating group of sandwiches, everybody's happy,

511
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 3: and you know, all of a sudden, he gets boot

512
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 3: in spring training. Nobody gets boot in spring training. He

513
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 3: got boot, and spring training he got boot on opening day.

514
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 3: He's come back and been a real contributor for this

515
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 3: ball club. So a very positive surprise.

516
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Speaker 1: It says so much about the man that he dealt

517
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Speaker 1: with all of that. I mean, you're right, Jim getting

518
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Speaker 1: booed in spring training, getting booed during like pregame introductions

519
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 1: on the home opener, and just getting you know, people

520
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 1: were so down on him coming back, and just why

521
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Speaker 1: are they even doing this. There's no way, there's no way,

522
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Speaker 1: there's no way he's actually gonna do anything positive. And

523
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Speaker 1: you know, now we're talking about him going to the

524
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Speaker 1: bullpen and at least finding out if he could be

525
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Speaker 1: a guy that can help you pitching a big spot

526
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Speaker 1: in the sixth seventh inning. I don't know if he's

527
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Speaker 1: ever going to be an eighth inning, ninth inning guy,

528
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Speaker 1: but they need somebody to get some big outs in

529
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Speaker 1: the sixth seventh inning. You know, they need somebody to

530
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: step up, and you know, maybe he can be that guy.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he can pitch well enough in those spots where

532
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Speaker 1: now the Phillies think they only need to go out

533
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Speaker 1: and get one reliever at the trend line instead of two.

534
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, Taiwan Walker apps and.

535
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Speaker 2: In two months, you make a good point. Two months

536
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Speaker 2: does not a season make.

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Speaker 3: I mean for this to be a real positive story,

538
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 3: he needs to contribute over six months.

539
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 2: That's the way baseball is.

540
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Speaker 3: I mean, I remember talking to Harper about this, and

541
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Speaker 3: I'm sure you did over the years. Like you know,

542
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 3: he says, you know, I don't really look at my

543
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 3: numbers through a couple of months because I look at

544
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Speaker 3: him at the end.

545
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Speaker 2: That's when I judge my season.

546
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Speaker 3: And that's what ultimately we're gonna judge Taiwan Walker's bounce back,

547
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Speaker 3: come back, whatever you want to call it, his season,

548
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 3: but for two months, thumbs up man.

549
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 2: Right.

550
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Speaker 1: Conversely, like you have Alec Bohm, you know, you know,

551
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Speaker 1: let's see what his numbers are at the end of

552
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: the season. But you didn't want It's why we said, like,

553
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 1: don't judge the guy based on two bad weeks or

554
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 1: three bad weeks, because he's probably gonna get this thing

555
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: turned around. And you know, now Alec Bohm has hit

556
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 1: like three twenty over the last month or something.

557
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 2: Like that, three thirty seven over his last twenty three games.

558
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Speaker 2: There we go with a nine nine ops. Yeah, he's

559
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 2: not bad. He's coming around. You know.

560
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Speaker 1: I gotta think he's got to start moving up in

561
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Speaker 1: the lineup, at least move up over JT. You know,

562
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Speaker 1: I got to think that that's got to be coming soon.

563
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Speaker 3: I think it sounds like it might be coming soon.

564
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Speaker 3: And I have no problem with Rob Thompson keeping him

565
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Speaker 3: where he was. Earn it, make him earn it, and

566
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Speaker 3: he's slowly but surely earning it.

567
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's been. He's been tremendous. Biggest disappointment through memorial

568
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Speaker 1: to Jim. You touched on it, Aaron Nola probably on

569
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Speaker 1: the field. Disappointment on the field, disappointment one in seven

570
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: six point one sixty RA. He's now on the injured

571
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: list with an ankle injury. It seems to be coming

572
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: a lot along, a lot more slowly than they thought.

573
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: He was supposed to throw off the mound this weekend

574
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: in West Sacramento, and did not do that. But yeah,

575
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: you know Aaron Nola.

576
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 3: Because like we didn't expect it. But again, two months

577
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 3: does not a season make this guy can bounce back

578
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 3: and be one of your studs for four months.

579
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Speaker 2: They kind of need him to be.

580
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Speaker 3: But you know, in terms of just pure disappointment, Hose Alvarado,

581
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 3: that's a big disappointment. Let a lot of people down.

582
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 3: They've been They've had testing around for twenty years now.

583
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 3: There's no excuses. You got to know what's going on.

584
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 3: They have these hot lines. You want to, you know,

585
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 3: take something, you can show it to your trainer. He

586
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 3: can have it tested, the Union can have it checked

587
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 3: out and tested, the team can. There's just no excuse,

588
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 3: and that is a disappointment. And it's just not here

589
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 3: like two guys talking on Tomorrow day morning. It's a

590
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 3: disappointment throughout that clubhouse.

591
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: No doubt about it. I mean the Aaron Nola struggles

592
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: injury preventable or not preventable, the ankle injury, but the

593
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: Jose Alvarado suspension one hundred preventable. You know, you mentioned

594
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: the hotlines and you can go to the training staff

595
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: if you're looking for a weight loss aid or whatever

596
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: the Philly said was going on.

597
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Speaker 3: And it's such a dispoint because this team is so

598
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Speaker 3: built for October and they don't have this guy for October.

599
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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, you know, maybe he can help them, maybe

600
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Speaker 1: he'll come back in mid August, help him get to

601
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Speaker 1: the postseason.

602
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Speaker 2: But riddle, let me ask you this. He comes back

603
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 2: on August eighteenth, right.

604
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's about it. Right.

605
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Speaker 3: He had a I would call it in a lot

606
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,959
Speaker 3: of areas of significant jump and quality of his stuff

607
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 3: throughout the first two months before they get busted.

608
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Speaker 2: And now you're like, okay, that kind of explains the

609
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 2: jump and stuff.

610
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Speaker 3: I mean, it comes back on August, Saint, he's going

611
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 3: to be the same Guy's going to be close to

612
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 3: the same guy, because it appears he had a little help. Yeah,

613
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 3: so is he going to be the same guy when

614
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 3: he comes back? And it gives you a month and

615
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 3: a half, I just don't know.

616
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a huge thing. And you think about

617
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: it now too. They have a month and a half

618
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: of Jose Alvarado to figure out. Are we going to

619
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Speaker 1: pick up that nine million dollar club option. I think

620
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: it's a nine million dollar club option for twenty twenty six,

621
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: so they have a month and a half to figure

622
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: out what they're going to do with him. That that

623
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: that turns into a huge decision as well.

624
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Speaker 2: You know, you gets I don't even know if it's

625
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 2: a huge decision.

626
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Speaker 1: You just you just flat out say no.

627
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you can bring him back, it's at

628
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 2: a cut rate, yeah, just because you don't know. You

629
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 2: just it's it's just hard to know what he.

630
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 3: Is because there was a there was a legitimate decline

631
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four, and there was a boost in

632
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 3: twenty five. But now we're kind of seeing the reason why.

633
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 3: I just don't know that you can make that investment money.

634
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 3: You know, It's it's just tough for me to say.

635
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 3: Time will tell.

636
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: And now that you mentioned it, like they're gonna they

637
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: want to They're going to try to resign kylish Orber.

638
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: They want to resign kyleish Warber. Uh, you have to

639
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: figure out what you can do with j T. He's

640
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: not had a great year offensively, of course, but he's

641
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: still tremendous behind the plate and the pitchers love throwing

642
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: to him. He's brings so much to the to the

643
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: pitching staff during the game in terms of his game

644
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: calling and and all of that. So you go, nine

645
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: million dollars, Maybe we take that five hundred thousand dollars

646
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: buyout and maybe see if we can make it work,

647
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: at least with Schwarber, maybe with JT. And so, yeah,

648
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: you're right, that's uh.

649
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 2: You mentioned JT's game calling.

650
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 3: I'm sorry a little tangent, I thought Davis on the

651
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 3: broadcast Sunday from Oakland, I like to call Ben big Supper.

652
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 2: I thought. I thought big Supper.

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Speaker 3: Made a great point that you know, they play the

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Speaker 3: Rockies and the A's on that trip, two young teams,

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Speaker 3: aggressive teams, and he, you know, Ben is right there

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Speaker 3: for every all seven of the games, and he's a

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Speaker 3: former major league catcher.

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Speaker 2: He knows what the hell he's talking about.

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Speaker 3: And he's like, JT just done a great job on

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Speaker 3: this trip, reading swings, reading hit young hitters, mindset, young hitters, aggressiveness,

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Speaker 3: and exploiting all of that with his pitch calling with

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Speaker 3: the Philly staff. So you know, yeah, the offense hasn't

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Speaker 3: been there, but man, JT is just such a contributor

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Speaker 3: in ways that sometimes the naked eye just doesn't pick up.

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Speaker 2: But big Supper, great job. Picking that up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, big big supper.

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Speaker 2: I like that. I like that.

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Speaker 1: The biggest concern, Jim, going as we hit Memorial Day

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Speaker 1: and we go into the final few months of the season,

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Speaker 1: what would your biggest concern be about this Phillies squad?

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Speaker 3: Always health. I mean, we love the pitching rotation. They've

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Speaker 3: built this great record on the backs of that pitching rotation.

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Speaker 3: A warming Bryce Harper, a warming Alec Baum, a you know,

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Speaker 3: kind of otherworldly Kyle schwar Need to keep those guys healthy,

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Speaker 3: need to keep that rotation healthy. So health is always

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Speaker 3: my biggest concern. But you know, other than that, it's

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Speaker 3: the bullpen. It's the bullpen. And because they lost a

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Speaker 3: good guy in Jose Alvarado, and I think they're going

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Speaker 3: to need another quality arm and and that can do

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Speaker 3: in pitching the seventh, eighth, ninth inning somewhere late in

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Speaker 3: the game when the pressure's on. Maybe an experienced arm,

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Speaker 3: little firepower. So and I do expect them to add

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Speaker 3: to the bullpen around the trade deadline, and so fortifying

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Speaker 3: the bullpen would be, you know, my biggest concern going forward.

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Speaker 3: And I think you would agree. And I think the

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Speaker 3: front office screens and they're going to do something.

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Speaker 1: I agree, Yeah, I agree that I would be floored

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Speaker 1: if come July July thirty first, whatever time the trade

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Speaker 1: deadline is, if an hour after that we don't learn

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Speaker 1: of any the Phillies have not addressed the bullpen, that

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Speaker 1: would it be absolutely stunned if they go out, don't

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Speaker 1: go out and do anything. Where do you stand on

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Speaker 1: say Romano and Kirkering and Strom they kind of hit

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Speaker 1: their stride and they really kind of level out, Say

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Speaker 1: Taiwan Walker proves to be pretty capable, and you know,

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Speaker 1: he becomes like a solid, reliable sixth inning, seventh inning guy,

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Speaker 1: occasional eighth inning guy. And they go out and they

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Speaker 1: get a hot another high leverage reliever in the bullpen,

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Speaker 1: and now they have go, oh, you know what, we

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Speaker 1: have a few more guys who could possibly make a

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Speaker 1: move with. Do you how do you feel about center

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Speaker 1: field and left field in terms of a potential area

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Speaker 1: that they need to address.

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Speaker 3: I'd probably lean more towards left field and a right

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Speaker 3: handed bat and trying to cultivate a platoon there. I

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Speaker 3: think if this lineup hits top to bottom, they can

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Speaker 3: it can work in centerfield with what they have, But

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Speaker 3: you know, they may think differently. I mean, obviously Crawford's

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Speaker 3: down there. We think there's a chance we could see

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Speaker 3: him at some point, but maybe not. But I would

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Speaker 3: love to see a good right handed bat to platoon

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Speaker 3: with Max Kepler in left field. I think that would

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Speaker 3: just make you a better team. They have in the

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Speaker 3: house candidates, they've used Wilson a little bit, Maybe Kemp

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Speaker 3: gets a look at some point, maybe it comes from,

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Speaker 3: you know, outside the organization.

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Speaker 2: But in the end, I think this.

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Speaker 3: Trade deadline could end up looking a lot like last

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Speaker 3: year's trade deadline. Leverage arm in the bullpen, right handed

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Speaker 3: bat in the outfield to help you, maybe in left field.

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Speaker 2: So what do you think?

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. Yeah, maybe they go out and

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Speaker 1: they find like they're this year's version of Austin Hayes,

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Speaker 1: hopefully healthy or hopefully more productive. But yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: that I think it's going to be a bullpen arm.

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Speaker 1: Maybe get a right handed bat. You have said this

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Speaker 1: many many times that if they're going to win the

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Speaker 1: World Series, they're gonna have to rely on Schwarber, Barter

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Speaker 1: or Turner, Nick Castianos, J T. Boem, all the guys

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Speaker 1: that are here. They're gonna have to get great starting

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Speaker 1: pitching from their studs. You know, Wheeler Lozardo, Sanchez, Worres,

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Speaker 1: whoever it is, if it's Nola, if he gets it

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Speaker 1: turned around, you know they're going to need the studs

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Speaker 1: that are here, the guys they signed to the big

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Speaker 1: time contracts to produce in October, and you know they

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Speaker 1: it's not gonna the Phillies are not going to win

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Speaker 1: or lose the World Series based off of who the

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Speaker 1: right handed bat is in left field. It could help

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Speaker 1: them win a game. Of course, that's not what I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying it. You know they shouldn't with it. But

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Speaker 1: if they're going to win the World Series, it's going

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Speaker 1: to be because those guys doing what they're supposed to do.

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Speaker 1: If you can add a nice complimentary piece, you know,

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Speaker 1: improve along the edges. You know, Pat Gillick always talked

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Speaker 1: about that if you can just make yourself incrementally better,

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Speaker 1: If you can do that, you gotta do it. Go

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Speaker 1: out and do it. But it's the Fillies aren't going

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Speaker 1: to win and win or not win the World Series

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Speaker 1: because of what they have in left field or what

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Speaker 1: they did or didn't do with the trade deadline. Totally

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Speaker 1: agree with somebody a superstar in left field or something.

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Speaker 3: No, I totally agree with you. They're gonna win with

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Speaker 3: the guys that hear, and those guys got to win.

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Speaker 3: I do think, though, that a good, solid to very

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Speaker 3: good acquisition of the bullpen would help their chances a lot.

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Speaker 3: I would love to see a guy who doesn't sweat

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Speaker 3: coming in with men on base in the seventhdays or

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Speaker 3: ninth the guy who's done some clothes, and a guy

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Speaker 3: who's been in the postseason, and the guy with some.

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Speaker 2: Firepower in that arm.

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Speaker 3: But you know, with the way they stack up, and

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Speaker 3: they're starting pitching with the depth they've created in the

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Speaker 3: big leagues, and two guys in the minors with power

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Speaker 3: stuff that want to be here and want to be

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Speaker 3: here soon and probably capable of being here soon in

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Speaker 3: Painter and Abel. You know, maybe the answer in the bullpen,

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Speaker 3: or one of the answers could be somebody that's already

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Speaker 3: here because they're gonna have to shorten that rotation in October.

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Speaker 3: So but I still would love to see a difference

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Speaker 3: maker in that bullpen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we think we think they will for sure.

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Speaker 1: So the Phillies resume play on Tuesday night, they have

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Speaker 1: a three game series against the Braves. The Braves have

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Speaker 1: Ronald Lacuney Junior back. I was actually watching the game

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Speaker 1: the other night.

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Speaker 2: First pitch destroys the ball.

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Speaker 1: To left center field. I'm like, okay, this is kind

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Speaker 1: of fun. You know, as a as a baseball fan,

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Speaker 1: it's fun to see something like that happen. I was like,

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh. My son was like, what's going on? Like,

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Speaker 1: don't worry about it. Ronald Cooney and Junior I had

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Speaker 1: a first pitch home run in his first game back

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Speaker 1: from a major knee surgery. So no big deal. But

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Speaker 1: so Tuesday night, six forty five pm series opener, you

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Speaker 1: have Rangers Suarez against Spencer Strider, who is back in

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Speaker 1: the rotation for the Braves. That should be fun. Wednesday

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Speaker 1: night six forty five Zach Wheeler against A. J. Smith Shaver.

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Speaker 1: And the series finale Thursday, six forty five pm, you

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Speaker 1: have Christopher Sanchez versus Chris Saal. So it'll be good

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Speaker 1: test for the Phillies.

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Speaker 3: Good test, be some big crowds. People should be really

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Speaker 3: charged up about this team. Yeah, it feels like they

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00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 3: disappeared a little bit off on the West Coast and

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Speaker 3: They played some teams that not a lot of buzz surrounding,

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Speaker 3: but I don't care who they played against.

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Speaker 2: They really played, they played well.

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Speaker 3: I was a little chopped about the way Sunday's game ended,

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Speaker 3: but uh yeah, still.

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Speaker 2: A hell of a trip.

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Speaker 3: And now you gotta build on it. You know, it's

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Speaker 3: like a It's like the old shutdown inning. You come

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00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 3: home after a six and one road trip. You gotta

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Speaker 3: win a series. That's your shutdown inning. Gotta win a series,

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Speaker 3: and you know you're going Ranger Wheeler s Ranger Wheeler.

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Speaker 1: Lozardo Sanchez sanchezz Yes.

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Speaker 3: Ranger Wheeler Sanchez. You got a hell of a chance

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Speaker 3: to have a good series because everything starts with starting pitching.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, So yeah, that should be fun. And then the

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Speaker 1: Brewers come into town this weekend. Reese Hoskins and the

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Speaker 1: Brewers with a weekend series on Friday Night. The Philly

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Speaker 1: a smell you later on you.

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