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Speaker 1: Welcome back in here to Clay and Box.

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Speaker 2: So we are talking about and sorry it's incongruous a

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Speaker 2: little bit with the or a lot the Christmas music,

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Speaker 2: but it is the Christmas season.

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Speaker 1: So this is a news show.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes we're going to talk news that's very disheartening, very upsetting,

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Speaker 2: very tragic, and there's unfortunately a lot of that from

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Speaker 2: over the weekend. We've been looking at this terrorist attack

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Speaker 2: in Bandai Beach, Australia and Clay. This is a reminder

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Speaker 2: of the threats that we face in remember Western civilization.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting Australia is on the other side of the globe,

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Speaker 2: but Australia is a part of Western civilization very much so,

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Speaker 2: and one of our sister countries.

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Speaker 1: Of the Anglo sphere.

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Speaker 2: So that means that we can see what's going on there,

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Speaker 2: see what's going on in the UK, Canada, New Zealand,

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Speaker 2: and they are particularly culturally close to us and aligned

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Speaker 2: with us, and so when things go wrong there, it

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Speaker 2: means that things could also go wrong here. Rather, we

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Speaker 2: have perhaps the ability to see some of the mistakes

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Speaker 2: and missteps that they make and then look at how

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Speaker 2: we could avoid the same situation. Our second Amendment is

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Speaker 2: something the founding fathers thought long and hard about and

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Speaker 2: included for good reason. Despite all of the nonsense you

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Speaker 2: will hear about this, despite all of the claims, I

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Speaker 2: saw some Democrat congressman saying that Trump wants more violence, actually,

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Speaker 2: and that's why he defends the Second Amendment.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they'll say anything.

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Speaker 2: The fact of the matter is that they're gun grabbing,

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Speaker 2: just disarms the law abiding and sets us up for tyranny.

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Speaker 1: And this is why when.

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Speaker 2: The Australian Prime Minister comes forward Cut eleven, this is

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Speaker 2: the problem with statism is that the only response can

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Speaker 2: always be from the statists more state control, even when

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Speaker 2: their state controls have failed. Here's the Australian Prime Minister

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Speaker 2: saying they want to tighten gun laws.

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Speaker 1: Play eleven.

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Speaker 3: The Government is prepared to take whatever action is necessary.

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Speaker 3: Included in that is the need for tougher gun laws.

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Speaker 3: And this afternoon at four o'clock, I will put on

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Speaker 3: the Exenda of the National Cabinet tougher gun laws, including

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Speaker 3: limits on the number of guns that can be used

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Speaker 3: or licensed by individuals, a review of licenses. Over a

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Speaker 3: period of time. People's circumstances change, people can be radicalized

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Speaker 3: over a period of time. Licenses should not be in perpetuity,

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Speaker 3: and checks of course, making sure that those checks and

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Speaker 3: balances are in place as well.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So as a as a gun owner who, in

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Speaker 2: all honesty, I was talking to my brother, I'm about

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Speaker 2: to get a couple more guns, so I mean, and

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Speaker 2: not having nothing to do this, I just mean I

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Speaker 2: want more guns and I'm gonna get more. My brother

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Speaker 2: has I think twice the number that I have, and

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Speaker 2: that just seems like I need to catch up.

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Speaker 1: I'm at rookie numbers.

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Speaker 2: This idea that you will make people safer Clay by

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Speaker 2: saying you can only have three guns and not five.

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Speaker 1: Let's just say just put that out there for.

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Speaker 2: A second, as if one gun is not enough if

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Speaker 2: you're a bad guy who wants to hurt a lot

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Speaker 2: of people. The Virginia Tech shooter, which I believe was

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Speaker 2: the most the most fatalities from any shooting in the

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Speaker 2: certainly in the top three or top five. Pistols. The

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Speaker 2: guy effectively had two pistols. The Ford Hood shooter pistols

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Speaker 2: you only need one or two if you're gonna kill

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Speaker 2: innocent people, and you can kill a lot of people.

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Speaker 2: Let me also point out a big problem here. You know,

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Speaker 2: we talked about Bondai Beach versus South Beach, Clay. If

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Speaker 2: this guy, if these two gi hots start doing something

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Speaker 2: we all could see the video. It's broad daylight in

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Speaker 2: a very prominent place with a lot of tourists, a

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Speaker 2: lot of people celebrating, just like what's outside my door

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Speaker 2: here in South Beach, Miami. If somebody does that there,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I know a number of gun owners in

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Speaker 2: a situation like that. Nobody could respond here. So limiting

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Speaker 2: the number of guns is moronic. And then this pretense that,

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Speaker 2: oh if only we did reviews Clay. Really, Australia is

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Speaker 1: They don't have the stones to do it.

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Speaker 2: They wouldn't do it, they wouldn't catch it in the

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Speaker 2: be offensive. Diversity is our strength. Did jihadiser get guns too?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Look, I think.

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Speaker 4: If you are Australian today, you should be looking around

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Speaker 4: at everything that happened and asking yourself, how did we

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Speaker 4: get here? And I think there are multiple diff diferent

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Speaker 4: steps that were taken that led to this place, but

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Speaker 4: ultimately they all come back to Western civilization under attack

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Speaker 4: and how has Australia benefited to a large extent from

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Speaker 4: this level of this level of change inside of their country?

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Speaker 4: And I just think we're at a time for such

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Speaker 4: significant conversation. I hope that we're willing to have it

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Speaker 4: And when you see this guy raising his son to

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Speaker 4: a minority of the people that are brought into the country. Okay,

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Speaker 4: that doesn't mean that it should still be happening at all.

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Speaker 4: And again, this whole idea that diversity is our strength,

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Speaker 4: to strengthen Western civilization any way, you're showing up to

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Speaker 4: destroy it. And again being afraid to condemn radical Islamic

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Speaker 4: being taken advantage of. I mean, in theory, buck, this

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Speaker 4: And so this father came to Australia, took advantage of

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Speaker 4: willing to give his life. And this is important. You

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Speaker 4: This is in their mind. This father had raised his

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Speaker 4: This is the bravest, most extraordinary act that he could

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Speaker 2: And what you're talking about, Clay, also is something that

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Speaker 2: the plight of the Palestinians as though they're this it's

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Speaker 2: And that just shows an extreme ignorance of the reality

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Speaker 1: It was a terrorist state.

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Speaker 2: They teach little kids in school, there's videos of this,

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Speaker 2: this is a top down societal hatred that is inculcated

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Speaker 2: That has existed for decades. Some people will say it

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Speaker 1: That's what goes on.

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Speaker 2: This is why people who have spent time either studying

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Speaker 1: Palestinian parents celebrate this.

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Speaker 2: They celebrate this like imagine a school shooter and in

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Speaker 2: That is Palestinian society today in Gaza, unfortunately, or rather

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Speaker 2: And a lot of people on the right who don't

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Speaker 2: no genocide in Gaza. There was also no starvation in Gaza.

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Speaker 2: Those were lies. And the viral of jihadism, which many

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Speaker 2: raise questions Clay, exactly like what you were talking about

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Speaker 2: Are Islamists people who believe in Islam as a vehicle

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Speaker 1: No they are not.

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Speaker 2: So diversity is very much not our strength. When you

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Speaker 2: they should use the democratic process to put Islamic principles

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Speaker 2: increasingly be a problem here unless we start to change

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Speaker 2: the way we do our immigration system, whereby we take

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Speaker 4: And these are real conversations that should be had. And

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Speaker 4: if you think that what just happened at Bondai Beach

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Speaker 4: that there was a major Muslim tarror attack that was

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Speaker 4: to keep that from happening. But I think you worked

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Speaker 4: in this world, Buck, It feels to me like absolute

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Speaker 4: certainty that something similar to what happened in Bondi will

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Speaker 4: be happening in the United States in who knows exactly

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Speaker 4: what the horizon will be, but at some point in

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Speaker 4: unfortunately the relatively near future.

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Speaker 2: I would say that generally, and we have the evidence

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Speaker 2: to prove this, are cops overall and overwhelmingly are like

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Speaker 2: the cops that showed up that day at Covington. Remember

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Speaker 2: we saw that video and they just went room to

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Speaker 2: and they eliminated the threat. That's that's most of our cops.

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Speaker 2: That's a vast majority of our cops. So I think

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Speaker 2: that at least is different here. We still have something now.

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Speaker 2: It does bring up also the gender differences among law

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Speaker 1: So that's what I think. That's an important conversation too.

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Speaker 2: by any person play. They prohibit paintball guns, slingshots, knives

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Speaker 2: with a blade longer than three inches, and any toy

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Speaker 2: firearm that could be potentially perceived as real. I read

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Speaker 2: that all out to you, because what exactly is the

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Speaker 2: point of that. Think about this for a moment. Who

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Speaker 2: is Let's really just work through this piece by piece. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I want to be clear. They also ban people who

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Speaker 2: have a lawful concealed carry permit from carrying. No one

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Speaker 2: is allowed to carry except for law enforcement.

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Speaker 1: Where was law enforcement during the shooting? Not there? Were

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Speaker 1: they even able to apprehend the suspect.

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Speaker 2: No, everyone on that campus was left utterly defenseless by

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Speaker 2: Brown University as a result of or in the.

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Speaker 4: Moment and building on that buck how many? This is

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Speaker 4: something that I think if we had real media, they

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Speaker 4: would dive into it. You and I both spent a

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Speaker 4: lot of time on campus campuses, in speeches and schooling

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Speaker 4: and everything else. Wouldn't you suspect that Brown would have

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Speaker 4: hundreds of people that they employ in security on that campus?

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Speaker 4: Like that doesn't seem like a crazy number to me?

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Speaker 4: Does it seem like a crazy number to you?

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Speaker 2: Probably not armed, probably mostly not armed with but aren't

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Speaker 2: but yes, okay, maybe not armed security, but the number

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Speaker 2: of security guards on that campus would be in the hundreds.

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Speaker 1: I would bet that they will.

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Speaker 2: What value is an unarmed security guard when you have

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Speaker 2: running around shooting people?

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Speaker 4: This is what I'm asking, Like, what are they actually

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Speaker 4: providing security for? If you can have someone go armed

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Speaker 4: into a campus building, kill two people, wound severely nine people,

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Speaker 4: and they don't even stop him. I mean, this is

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Speaker 4: if I'm a parent, if I'm a parent of a

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Speaker 4: Brown University student, I'm looking around, Sam, Wait a minute,

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Speaker 4: you charge? What does Brown cost? I bet it's eighty

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Speaker 4: or ninety thousand dollars a year when you roll in

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Speaker 4: room and board and everything else. Seventy five certainly at

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Speaker 4: least room and board intuition and everything else. The number

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Speaker 4: one thing that you should be providing on Brown is

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Speaker 4: the same thing that I would say that we should

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Speaker 4: provide to every citizen. But if you're paying all that money,

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Speaker 4: you should have security on campus at a minimum, to

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Speaker 4: stop a guy from going shooting up a building and

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Speaker 4: walking off and getting away.

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Speaker 2: It's been forty eight hours now, I mean, the security

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Speaker 2: on campus could be helpful. What would be even more

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Speaker 2: helpful is if you had somebody on Brown campus who

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Speaker 2: was concealed carrying who's a good guy, who the shooter

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Speaker 2: wouldn't know about and would have to take into account

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Speaker 2: if he's going to engage in something like this. All

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Speaker 2: the gun free zone on a college campus does is

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Speaker 2: make sure that there is no chance of a trained

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Speaker 2: and armed civilian being able to defend himself or herself

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Speaker 2: and those around that person from a determined murderer. Because

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Speaker 2: the murderer, this should be a shock to no one

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Speaker 2: doesn't care about violating Brown's policy on firearms. So all

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Speaker 2: you're doing is preventing people who remember, you can't even

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Speaker 2: have it in your car, Clay, You can't even have

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Speaker 2: it in your dorm room. It cannot even be excessed,

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Speaker 2: nevermind like carrying it around with You can't even have

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Speaker 2: possession of it anywhere on Brown University's campus. How in

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Speaker 2: what universe does that make anyone safer? How could anyone

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Speaker 2: be safer as a result, that's safer from what?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, by the way, seventy two thousand dollars a year

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Speaker 4: Brown tuition, tuition and room and board now costs, according

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Speaker 4: to Google AI and our staff ninety five nine and

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Speaker 4: eighty four dollars a year. So you're talking about just

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Speaker 4: shy of one hundred thousand dollars a year intuition, room

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Speaker 4: and board. And to your point, Buck, there is actually

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Speaker 4: no one to provide security when a true bad guy

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Speaker 4: shows up. We don't know his motive, we don't even

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Speaker 4: know who the heck he is, but now we know

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Speaker 4: that he was able to go into a campus building,

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Speaker 4: kill two, hospitalize nine, no opposition whatsoever, walk out of

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Speaker 4: the building, leave campus, nobody stopping him, no issues whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: And to your point, we've talked about this off air.

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Speaker 4: If you go and look a lot of times when

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Speaker 4: these guys and gals go shoot up schools, It happened

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Speaker 4: at Covenant School in Nashville, it happened in Minneapolis recently.

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Speaker 4: They actually go scout the places out, confirm that there

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Speaker 4: aren't people to oppose them, and then enact their awfulness

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Speaker 4: and their their violence upon those locations. In other words,

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Speaker 4: they've actually done the research, and I bet this shooter

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Speaker 4: will have two buck to know where they can go.

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Speaker 4: And the fact that they are unlikely to be well

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Speaker 4: grunted by anybody.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, Clay.

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Speaker 2: In the context of schools, you know that if you

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Speaker 2: don't see security, there's no there's nobody who's going to

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Speaker 2: have a gun other than security. So this is why

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Speaker 2: concealed carry is such a useful component of the security

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Speaker 2: equation because, you know, it reminds me of my brother.

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Speaker 2: We used to go out together. We would joke around.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he has a Pomeranian, a little carrying case

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Speaker 2: and he had like a SIG three sixty five X

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Speaker 2: in that Pomeranian carrying case with three magazines at all times. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and he shoots even more than he shoots all the time.

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Speaker 2: So it's like, if you're a bad guy. Now, I

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Speaker 2: understand that's just one person, but there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: that here in Florida. There's a lot of that people

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Speaker 2: at your Christmas party. Do you think had guns in

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Speaker 2: that Christmas party? Well, that's different because you can't conceal

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Speaker 2: carry at a bar, and we were at a bar. Okay, okay, this,

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Speaker 2: but there was if you want to know, there was

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Speaker 2: armed security there because of some of the personnel who attended.

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Speaker 2: So there were guns in that room, but only by

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Speaker 2: people that are specifically allowed to have guns in that situation.

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Speaker 2: Dave Ruben's party, I think we said we went there

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Speaker 2: not trying to put him on blast. Here, good party.

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Speaker 2: A bunch of people had guns. Yeah, there are people

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Speaker 2: that there are people that had firearms.

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Speaker 1: Sure. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And as a result, I frankly, I mean the world

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Speaker 4: that we live in right now, if I'm going to

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Speaker 4: be with people that have been targeted, I would rather

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Speaker 4: there be a lot of guns around as opposed to none. Right,

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Speaker 4: And so I've said this every time a school gets

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Speaker 4: shot up. My kids in public school in the Nashville,

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Speaker 4: Tennessee area. Every school in my county has an armed

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Speaker 4: security guard there. I think this should be standard everywhere.

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Speaker 4: The fact that brown one hundred thousand dollars a year

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Speaker 4: nearly these kids parents are paying for them to go

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Speaker 4: to school. There the fact that this could happen, it

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Speaker 4: should be we may ever get this guy. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean the evidence that they seem

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Speaker 4: to have right now. They arrested some random guy at

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Speaker 4: a hotel who had nothing to do with it. That's

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Speaker 4: not a sign that they have very good sense for

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Speaker 4: what's going on. Buck and the tips so far have

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Speaker 4: not seemed very good either. I want to tell you

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Speaker 4: all about chalk and how much of a difference it

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Speaker 4: can make as we come in this holiday season. I

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Speaker 4: had a couple of Christmas parties yesterday, Long Days, had

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Speaker 4: a party with Buck, had a party with Dave Ruben.

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Speaker 4: Lots of you going out to holiday parties all over

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Speaker 4: the country and with your friends and your family, get

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Speaker 4: it gearing up for travel. We leave on Friday, going

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Speaker 2: Santa Claus is coming to town. As long as you

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Speaker 2: don't agree with Clay that R and B is the

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Speaker 2: worst form of music. That's for crazy crazy takes flying

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Speaker 2: around like Rudolph himself here up in the sky today

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Speaker 2: on the Clay and Bucks show. You look like you

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Speaker 2: look like you're you're chomping at the bit to jump

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Speaker 2: in on this one, sir. I'm trying to give you

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Speaker 2: a an off ramp here.

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Speaker 4: I don't think no, I think I think I'm one

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Speaker 4: hundred percent right on this. And uh, it's there's so

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Speaker 4: much darkness out in the world today. Why would we

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Speaker 4: add more darkness by embracing the worst music that has

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Speaker 4: been created in the last twenty five or so.

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Speaker 1: Years R and B music.

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Speaker 4: So I just I refuse to play that game and

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Speaker 4: go down that dark hole of despair by making it

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Speaker 4: even darker and even more what is the plural of despair?

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Speaker 4: Even more, despairrier, and even worse. I think depressing would

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Speaker 4: work there, buddy. I think the depressing the well is

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Speaker 4: that is that an actual direct connection to despair?

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Speaker 2: Though, no, no, I was just trying to help their synonym. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: Oh that's what I get for trying to help. Frank

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Speaker 2: in Kentucky he worked at law Enforce and wants to

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Speaker 2: weigh in on the news today.

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Speaker 1: What's going on? Frank?

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Speaker 8: Hey, guys love the show, Hey listen to put in

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Speaker 8: perspective where Klay can grab it. Brown's about the same

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Speaker 8: size as Vanderbilt. They have about eighty five police officer slots.

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Speaker 8: No police department is fully compliment right now because it's

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Speaker 8: hard to want people to be the police. So they

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Speaker 8: probably had seventy five officers on hired at the time.

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Speaker 8: Take the administration out, because you're always going to have them,

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Speaker 8: take the detectives out. Divide it three shifts days off.

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Speaker 8: They'd be lucky if they had ten guys working that day.

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Speaker 8: And if they're like Vanderbilt, four or five of those

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Speaker 8: are going to be assigned to the hospital. So if

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Speaker 8: they had five on the street, it would be amazing.

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Speaker 8: And then think about the fact, do you think Brown

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Speaker 8: University is actually going to have the back of any

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Speaker 8: cop that's doing proactive work. Heck no, So it's all reactive.

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Speaker 8: They don't, so are you?

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Speaker 4: This is all super good analysis because we were talking

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Speaker 4: for people who maybe didn't hear. This guy shoots up

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Speaker 4: the building, kills two students, wounds nine other peoples, many

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Speaker 4: of those severe wounds, and just walks out of the

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Speaker 4: campus and they don't catch him at all. Does that

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Speaker 4: surprise you that he could do that? I like the

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Speaker 4: way that you're analyzing this, or do you think you

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Speaker 4: mentioned Vanderbilt, which is in my backyard here, I'm in

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Speaker 4: a lum I mean to give me a size. It's

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Speaker 4: not a huge campus. We're not talking for people out there.

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Speaker 4: We're not talking about an Ohio State sized campus where

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Speaker 4: there are tens of thousands of students and hundreds of

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Speaker 4: acres involved. Does it surprise you that this could happen

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Speaker 4: or do you think there's a lot of college campuses

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Speaker 4: where kids may think they're safe and parents may think

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Speaker 4: their kids are safe, but somebody could walk in, shoot

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Speaker 4: them up, and walk right off the campus and get

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Speaker 4: away with it. Because while you're talking about just the

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Speaker 4: Brown cops, we also have all of the Providence area

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Speaker 4: police that I would think should also be able to respond,

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Speaker 4: right because it's in the middle of a city, so

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Speaker 4: it's not as if this is some rural, isolated campus

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Speaker 4: environment where there aren't resources surrounding it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I worked in the city that has a university.

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Speaker 8: We were not the first call when things jumped off

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Speaker 8: on campus. So it does take a little bit of

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Speaker 8: time before your city police get involved, or your state

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Speaker 8: or wherever you're at. Universities are not near as safe

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Speaker 8: as they lead people to believe. Because they see the

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Speaker 8: police as an unwanted necessity. They tell their officers, don't

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Speaker 8: go out here stirring up stuff, don't be proactive because

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Speaker 8: then we have to report the crime, and we don't

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Speaker 8: want to report the crime. So if you don't go

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Speaker 8: find it, we don't have to report it, and we'll

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Speaker 8: get more students that come to our school. So it

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Speaker 8: absolutely could happen. Universities are not near as safe as

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Speaker 8: people are led to believe.

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Speaker 1: And I mean, this is all really really interesting.

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Speaker 4: I think to walk through because when I was on campus,

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Speaker 4: they would always tell us, and I think you hear

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Speaker 4: it all the time, this is a very safe place.

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Speaker 4: A lot of campuses have like the big blue lights

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Speaker 4: that you hit where somebody could show up if you

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Speaker 4: feel uncomfortable.

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Speaker 1: Safeer eyed stuff like this.

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Speaker 4: But I just never would have believed, would you, Buck,

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Speaker 4: And I appreciate Frank from Kentucky calling in.

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Speaker 1: If you had told me, hey, you can walk.

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Speaker 4: Into an IVY League campus with a gun, I think

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Speaker 4: we just lost Frank and shoot up a building and

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Speaker 4: the guy can walk off campus. I would have never

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Speaker 4: believed that was possible, because that video is him just

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Speaker 4: walking off campus and we may never know who did it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that is utterly insane to me that that

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Speaker 4: could happen. But it makes me wonder how many other

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Speaker 4: campuses are equally as susceptible to an attack like this

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Speaker 4: as Brown was, and what safety have we been sold,

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Speaker 4: because I think most people understand that it's almost impossible

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Speaker 4: to stop the shooting. There's a new video by the

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Speaker 4: way that Fox News is playing of the person they

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Speaker 4: say an interest in at Brown University. But I'm not

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Speaker 4: saying that I'm stunned that there could be a shooting

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Speaker 4: on campus. I am utterly stunned that someone could leave

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Speaker 4: a campus like a Brown University and just get away

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Speaker 4: with it. I would not have believed that was possible

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Speaker 4: that you could shoot up a place and just walk

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Speaker 4: off the off the facility.

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Speaker 1: Well, it depends on how many exits you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you have to look at the specifics, the

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Speaker 2: tactical realities that you're dealing with. You would think that

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Speaker 2: the police response that I think would be fast enough

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Speaker 2: where that would be that would be hard.

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Speaker 1: But Clay, you know, people get away with a lot

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Speaker 1: of things.

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Speaker 2: I worked the Times Square bombing as part of a

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Speaker 2: pass force of hundreds of people. Just to be clear,

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Speaker 2: I was one of, you know, a cast of thousands

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Speaker 2: practically by the Time Square bombing back in twenty ten.

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Speaker 2: Faizel Shazad and I read about this in my book

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Speaker 2: Manufacturing Delusion, where I've never written about it before. You

724
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Speaker 2: should go get a copy of it on Amazon or

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Speaker 2: wherever fine books are sold. But I I remember that case.

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Speaker 2: The guy set a truck a car bomb in Times

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Speaker 2: Square on an absolutely beautiful and busy Saturday, and Clay

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Speaker 2: he got to the airport and got on the plane. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he was heading back to Pakistan. He almost got So

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Speaker 2: people do get away when they you think, oh it's

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Speaker 2: Time Square, all the cops and everything. They're like, no,

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Speaker 2: if you get a start, you never know.

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Speaker 4: The shooter that would be assassin of Trump at the

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Speaker 4: West Palm Beach golf.

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Speaker 1: Course he got out in the Yeah.

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Speaker 4: The only reason they caught him was because a woman

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Speaker 4: in the parking lot where he had been set up

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Speaker 4: for hours jotted down his license plate number as he

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Speaker 4: was fleeing when the Secret Service fired at him.

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Speaker 9: Play the Charlie Kirk assassin turned himself in. Yeah, we

741
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Speaker 9: did not catch him. He turned himself in Yeah, so

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Speaker 9: you know this is this is the reality.

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Speaker 1: What do you do? Sorry to cut you off.

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Speaker 4: One reason, they did find the gun for the Charlie

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Speaker 4: Kirk assass and he abandoned it. According to reports on

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Speaker 4: the Utah Valley campus, there has there been any discussion

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Speaker 4: about the weapon that was used and whether it was

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Speaker 4: abandoned on the site or if the shooter just continued

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Speaker 4: with that weapon afterwards. I haven't seen the specifics on

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Speaker 4: that particular case. Some of you may know, but I

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Speaker 4: haven't seen that reported. In the same way, we were

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Speaker 4: able to find that gun because he had to abandon it.

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Speaker 4: Now was a long rifle, so it was harder to conceal.

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Speaker 4: I think the shooting in Brown, if I'm not mistaken,

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Speaker 4: was a handgun. So the individual in question here may

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Speaker 4: well have just been able to put that gun inside

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Speaker 4: of inside of his outfit and continued on. But we

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Speaker 4: may never catch him. And I think that's a question

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Speaker 4: that a lot of campus security officials have to be

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Speaker 4: asking in the wake of this. Is it's one thing

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Speaker 4: to allow a shooting. It's almost impossible, I should say,

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Speaker 4: stop a shooting from happening. That's very difficult. If someone

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Speaker 4: is committed to it. But the idea that someone could

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Speaker 4: do it, kill two people, wound nine, and then just

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Speaker 4: leave and they wouldn't be able to stop it is

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Speaker 4: kind of crazy. It is indeed, so I wonder. I

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Speaker 4: honestly was thinking that they would have an update for

768
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Speaker 4: his clay during the quurse. Yeah, well, I thought they'll

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Speaker 4: probably get them during the show, and maybe they will

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Speaker 4: lie when we're finished. But you would think, I mean,

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Speaker 4: the era that we're in of cell phone tracking, cameras everywhere,

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Speaker 4: a lot of surveillance, it should be a lot harder

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Speaker 4: to get away with crimes now that it has been previously,

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Speaker 4: but it's still situations like this still happened far too frequently,

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Speaker 4: where an assailant in.

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Speaker 1: Broad daylight in a crowded place is.

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Speaker 2: Able to kill a bunch of people and get away,

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Speaker 2: which which causes also a continuing risk to the public too.

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Speaker 2: It's not just the frustration of we haven't gotten this person.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they're going to go try to shoot somebody else,

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Speaker 2: and that was certainly a member of the Boston Marathon bombers.

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Speaker 2: The manhunt for them. The huge concern there was, well,

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Speaker 2: they're not done. I mean, these guys probably want to

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Speaker 2: go out in a you know, in a shootout of

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Speaker 2: some kind or something. So and they remember they got

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Speaker 2: away after being at the Boston Marathon. So it's a

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Speaker 2: pretty common thing for the assailants to escape. But we

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Speaker 2: don't know anything about this guy right now who did

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Speaker 2: the shooting on the Brown campus other than the only

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Speaker 2: thing that goes to motive at this point is the

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Speaker 2: the the vice president of the Republican Club was one

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Speaker 2: of those killed. That could be coincidental. To be clear,

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Speaker 2: it could be. It does seem that that would be

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Speaker 2: quite a coincidence, but it could be. You know, we

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Speaker 2: don't know. That's the only data point we have that

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Speaker 2: starts to go toward any kind of a motive. It

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Speaker 2: could be totally a personal grudge. It's really just guessing

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Speaker 2: and surmising at this point. Clay, Yeah, Look, we had

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Speaker 4: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We're talking

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Speaker 4: about the Brown shooting and the fact that they do

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Speaker 4: not know the Brown University Providence, Rhode Island shooting. They

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Speaker 4: have now released a second video. You can barely see

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Speaker 4: anything on this video too, So in addition to the

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Speaker 4: fact that there was no response at all, I think

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Speaker 4: if you are spending the money that these universities are

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Speaker 4: susposed supposedly spending on security, I'm looking at this video

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Speaker 4: that they now have released. This is the second video.

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Speaker 4: You could still see nothing. They have eight hundred cameras

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Speaker 4: on campus. Now, maybe some of these cameras are inoperable

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Speaker 4: and they're more for show than they are for actual

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Speaker 4: detection of crime or danger on campus. But not only

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Speaker 4: did this guy, presumably it's a guy although we don't

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Speaker 4: even really know, go into campus and kill two people

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Speaker 4: and shoot up a building and have nine different people

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Speaker 4: that he put in the hospital, but he was able

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Speaker 4: to walk all the way through the campus, and they

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Speaker 4: have virtually zero footage of him at all in a

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Speaker 4: way that could remotely help someone catch this guy. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I'm watching again all in black. You can see very

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Speaker 4: little about him. It's cold and it's difficult to see.

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Speaker 1: Y'all.

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Speaker 4: Extein is with us now right before we finished the program.

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Speaker 4: We've talked to her quite a lot. And I bet

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Speaker 4: you were, like both Buck and myself, yell when you

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Speaker 4: woke up up and saw the news about the shooting

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Speaker 4: in Sydney. It's awful, but given all the anti Semitism

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Speaker 4: that had been occurring in Australia, did it surprise you,

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Speaker 4: unfortunately that this even happened.

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Speaker 11: Wow? Well, this world is so dark. It's so sad

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Speaker 11: to say that nothing is surprising me these days. I

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Speaker 11: lived through October seventh, and I've lived through thirty five

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Speaker 11: thousand rockets being rained down on Israel from seven different fronts,

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Speaker 11: and so when I see the terror attacks that are

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Speaker 11: happening around the world, my heart breaks. But it's not surprising.

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Speaker 11: And the message that's very clear to me is that

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Speaker 11: it's not isolated to Australia or America, or Europe or Israel.

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Speaker 11: We are in this together. It is a global threat,

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Speaker 11: that of darkness that hates light. And so when I

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Speaker 11: saw it, the first thing that I thought about was

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Speaker 11: how Christians and Jews and those who sanctify life we

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Speaker 11: have to come together to do whatever we can to

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Speaker 11: light in the world and not just rely on the

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Speaker 11: politicians to make the right decisions on our behalf.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's buck, thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 2: If you could just speak to how has Australia been

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Speaker 2: when it comes to the handling of anti Semitism. I

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Speaker 2: just think there's a there's always a context here in

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Speaker 2: countries where a terrible attack like this happens. You know,

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Speaker 2: there was there's obviously been anti semitism here in America,

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Speaker 2: specifically after the October seventh attacks and then on campuses,

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Speaker 2: people saw a lot of that, but there was a

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Speaker 2: huge pushback against that from Trump administration, from millions and

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Speaker 2: millions of Americans across the country. Can you speak to,

879
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Speaker 2: is Australia a place where this is taken with seriousness

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Speaker 2: or is it allowed to fester perhaps more than it should.

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Speaker 11: Well, we've seen across Australia lots of uh not just

882
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 11: rallies that were violent, calling for the destruction of Israel

883
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Speaker 11: and attack on Jews, but we've seen politicians take hard

884
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Speaker 11: in that in Australia, they have not done a good

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Speaker 11: job at trying to stop the anti Semitism that's been

886
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Speaker 11: growing over the years. And that's when I realized that

887
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Speaker 11: it's us it's the silenced majority. There are I would

888
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Speaker 11: say three hundred million Christians around the world. You look

889
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 11: at the Far East, you look at Korea and China,

890
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Speaker 11: you look at South America, you look America, you look

891
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:27,240
Speaker 11: in Australia and across North America. Jews and Christians today

892
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 11: need to stand together. And when we don't rely on

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Speaker 11: the government to take the right stand, we can make

894
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Speaker 11: such a big difference. Just since October seventh, the Fellowship

895
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Speaker 11: have distributed six million meals to people who needed it.

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Speaker 11: We've placed thousands of bomb shelters in Israel, We've provided

897
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Speaker 11: security to Jewish institutions around the world, including in Australia

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Speaker 11: where there are threats, and we've gone into Syria to

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Speaker 11: provide medical conics and food boxes for persecuted Christians in Syria.

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Speaker 11: And so I think we have to stop relying on

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Speaker 11: the government and we have to do whatever we can,

902
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Speaker 11: the little bit each one of us can to go

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Speaker 11: out and do it in order to bring comfort and

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Speaker 11: hope to each other.

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Speaker 4: Because is this the worst happy, Yeah, sorry to cut

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Speaker 4: you off. There, is this the worst that you've ever

907
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Speaker 4: seen when it comes to anti Semitism around the world.

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Speaker 11: Well, it took twenty minutes for the authorities to respond,

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Speaker 11: And it was actually a heroic Arab man who attacked

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Speaker 11: one of the gunmen and took the gun out of

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Speaker 11: his hand that stabbed so many more people from being killed.

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Speaker 11: But yes, we've seen it though across the world. We've

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Speaker 11: seen it in Buenos Aires, we've seen it in America.

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Speaker 11: We've seen it synagogues being shot up. So fifteen people

915
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Speaker 11: killed and that number is still going up. It's something.

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Speaker 11: There are no words to describe the pain of the

917
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Speaker 11: global Jewish community and all people who think of my life.

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Speaker 11: But it's going to get worse if we don't take

919
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Speaker 11: a stand against it, both politically and as individuals. There's

920
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 11: no more. We don't have the luxury of staying silent anymore.

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Speaker 11: Just like we put our Christmas trees on the public

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Speaker 11: square and our hanakamnours on the public square, we have

923
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Speaker 11: to go to the public square and say we stand

924
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Speaker 11: for life, we stand for freedom, we won't let this

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Speaker 11: happen under our watch. And I'm my brother's keeper.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I am very well said. Yeah, we appreciate all

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Speaker 4: the work that you and the Fellowship is doing of

928
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Speaker 4: Christians and Jews around the world, particularly as we move

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Speaker 4: closer and closer to Christmas and Hanukkah itself is already underway.

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Speaker 4: We'll be talking more and more about this, the latest

931
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Speaker 4: on the Brown shooter. Hopefully we'll be able to catch

932
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Speaker 4: the person who shot up the university soon and more tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for hanging with us on Clay and Buck