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Speaker 2: we're gonna play is this News. Gonna throw some headlines

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Speaker 2: But let's start with the games. Only five on. I

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Speaker 2: with the Bucks edging the Celtics depleted Celtics one thirty one,

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Speaker 2: one five in overtime from Milwaukee's eleventh straight win. But

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Speaker 3: Of guys, the Celtics lose, but it feels like a

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Speaker 3: I thought, Malcolm Bouncy crossing guys over, getting too the

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Speaker 3: But I think the Celtics feel great and the Bucks

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Speaker 3: He's he's he is slowly gearing up for the postseason

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Speaker 3: and the Drew game. Who won the game at the end,

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Speaker 4: this is not a moral victory for our team. That

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Speaker 4: He's playing incredible right now, defending Eastern Conference Player of

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Speaker 3: No moral victories for Joe Miszoula.

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Speaker 3: Didn't even realize that with this forty, although he's had

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Speaker 2: I hope we see these teams in the playoffs. I

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Speaker 2: Let's do it again. You got a real rival over here.

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Speaker 2: Love this true holiday quote after the game. By the way,

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Speaker 2: for me, as long as we get to win, I'm okay.

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Speaker 2: The only stat I look at his turnovers. That's kind

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Speaker 2: That hurts my soul? By forty points eight three pointers made,

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Speaker 2: moment four Bucks fans too. When Gianness went down, that

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Speaker 4: I don't think I had any other notes regarding this one.

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Speaker 4: It was just weird. On that last possession for Boston,

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Speaker 4: We got called this guy Magic Mike.

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Speaker 2: Forty four minutes was my point. They got pleased, so

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Speaker 4: Was tired of guess he was tired, as was White,

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Speaker 2: Sons topped the Kings one twenty one nine. Kevin Durant

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Speaker 2: here for the Phoenix Suns. Yeah. Kevin Durant living the life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, eight twenty nine, eleven boards, four steals, two blocks

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Speaker 2: I think the Kings are going to like drop a

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Speaker 3: It's ridiculous the shots that they're they're gonna hit and

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Speaker 3: You know, you said the Josh Kogi got the Deer

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Speaker 2: Here's a little stat for you division siccos out there.

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Speaker 2: The Suns nine to zero against the Pacific Division, only

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Speaker 3: But that's the best division in basketball, very.

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Speaker 2: Very solid division.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely a couple of LA's Phoenix, the Kings and who's

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Speaker 4: Nobody specific Division Kings, Sons, Clippers, Warriors, Lakers, Warriors, Warriors,

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Speaker 2: Look at this, Look at this Pacific Division matchup one started.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this was a really solid Kawhi game and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Kawhi Leonard, how many three pointers did he hit

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Speaker 4: showed up for the Clippers. Mason Plumley eight points, five rebounds,

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Speaker 4: concern though for Golden State is that their defense is

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Speaker 4: But the effort isn't there. And that's true, the effort

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Speaker 3: Yeah, going at it, there's no doubt, but Norman Powell

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Speaker 3: But Kawhi obviously looking amazing. So those seven threes time

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Speaker 2: In the five set, all right, let's go to a

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Speaker 2: after the All Star break, you get oj back there,

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Speaker 3: Well, I think they're going to be a fun playing team.

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Speaker 2: I don't think the Knicks will get out of there.

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Speaker 3: He can yeah handle, he can just basically stand under

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Speaker 3: the glass and get rebounds. He had nine boards. Most

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Speaker 3: of those five were offensive, just getting extra possessions. And yeah,

431
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Speaker 3: throw it in the Draymond Green four on three comparison,

432
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Speaker 3: throwing the Marcos soul comparison. I mean, he is, he

433
00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,200
Speaker 3: can pass, he can handle, and he can obviously scop.

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Speaker 3: So the purdle passing and the peartl scoring, I mean

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Speaker 3: fifteen of seventeen from.

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Speaker 2: The floor, it's just nice.

437
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Speaker 3: It's just nice to have a body who is very,

438
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Speaker 3: very capable in there because they didn't have one, so yeah,

439
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Speaker 3: they are to be reckoned.

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Speaker 2: With sure in the plan and the play and yeah,

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Speaker 2: well say they've got a hole.

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Speaker 3: They've got too big a hole, I think, to make

443
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Speaker 3: up to actually get into the real playoffs.

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Speaker 2: But it's gonna be tough.

445
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Speaker 3: You gotta go through Toronto in the play they should

446
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Speaker 3: be the seventh seed. I imagine collow well.

447
00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,560
Speaker 2: Will to be a game in Toronto. Is that you're saying, well, all.

448
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Speaker 3: Right, there should be with the way the Hawks are playing,

449
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Speaker 3: And yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, any thoughts on this one.

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Speaker 4: I thought the Raptors did a good job taking advantage

452
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Speaker 4: of the schedule, second night of the back to back

453
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Speaker 4: for the Magic and they just fell apart completely in

454
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Speaker 4: the second half scored forty three points. My other takeaway

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Speaker 4: is that Mark el Foltz is just good.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 4: Guy's good. Nineteen points, six rebounds, five assists, a steal,

458
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Speaker 4: two blocks, a huge dunk in this one, shooting fifty

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Speaker 4: percent from the field this season. Obviously doesn't have a

460
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Speaker 4: three point shot really, but he'll take them. Made one

461
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Speaker 4: last night since January first fourteen, a game with four rebounds,

462
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Speaker 4: five assists, two stocks, fifty three percent from the field.

463
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Speaker 4: He's smart, he's aggressive, he's got good size, he's got

464
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Speaker 4: like good change of pace skills. For the way his

465
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Speaker 4: career started, it's pretty impressive that he's able to be

466
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Speaker 4: a real player out there. He's fun to watch.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we often say it, Oh, this guy is going

468
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Speaker 3: to this under the radar market. Yeah, maybe he'll get

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Speaker 3: his career back on track.

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Speaker 2: It happened absolutely.

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Speaker 3: He looked great with that donk Is and another guy

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Speaker 3: who got his night on track. Anyways, Jalen Suggs for

473
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Speaker 3: the Magic. Playing up against Scottie Barnes, the guy who's

474
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Speaker 3: picked just ahead of him, I think there's a little motivation.

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Speaker 2: He looked great on the bench. My only other notes

476
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Speaker 2: Siakam was cooking from mid range as this game went on.

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Speaker 2: He had that jumper going last night, and he's very

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Speaker 2: tough to stop when that's going. Van Vliet with a

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Speaker 2: fifteen assists. I think his tied his career high with

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Speaker 2: fifteen dimes. So again they were like, you could tell

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Speaker 2: the Magic. His game plan was like, let's just let's

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Speaker 2: really contain Van Vliet, make him make a pass and

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Speaker 2: see what happens. And he was making that pass. Guys

484
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Speaker 2: were knocking down shots, and like we said, Perl was

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Speaker 2: scoring off a lot of those. Bouchet blocked Bull Bull

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Speaker 2: on a three point attempt. That's a lot of limbs

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Speaker 2: on a possession there. Chris Bouche is a lanky guy,

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Speaker 2: Bull Bull maybe one of the lankiest guys in the league.

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Speaker 2: Somehow like there's not many guys that are making that

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Speaker 2: block on a bull Bowl three point in ten and

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Speaker 2: you said about the Raptors, whether or not they move

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Speaker 2: up the standings, here are they in the play in

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Speaker 2: what happens down the stretch. They host the Pelicans in

494
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Speaker 2: their first game following the All Star break, and then

495
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Speaker 2: they play seven of eight on the road, some of

496
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Speaker 2: them not against the greatest teams in the league. But

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Speaker 2: it gets tough. There are games in Cleveland, there are

498
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Speaker 2: games in Denver. There are games against both the LA

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Speaker 2: teams and the clips in the Lakers, so that may

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Speaker 2: be right there. Task will decide sort of where ultimately

501
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Speaker 2: can they get out of the plan or will they

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Speaker 2: be one of those teams probably from seven to ten

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Speaker 2: at the end of the season. It's a big, big

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Speaker 2: stretch for the Raps, but they look like a lot

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Speaker 2: better team with Pearl as a real center that can

506
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Speaker 2: block shots and can actually facilitate a little bit or

507
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Speaker 2: at least put pressure on the rim. You can score,

508
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Speaker 2: So that's good. Final game, Kuzma returns from injury and

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Speaker 2: the Wizards crush the Blazers one twenty six one O

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Speaker 2: one TK. What do you got?

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Speaker 4: The main thing to me that there were some great

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Speaker 4: highlights in this game. I agree, Yeah, there's some great highlights.

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Speaker 4: Bradley Beal had a huge dunk on Drew Eubanks. Shade

514
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 4: and Sharp had an awesome dunk. He may have hit

515
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Speaker 4: his head on the bottom of the backboard when he

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Speaker 4: went up for this one. Just made just sad, Just

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Speaker 4: made just sad to see before All Star weekend is

518
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Speaker 4: coming to see this guy flying. He had a pretty

519
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 4: good game as well. Otherwise, we also had a buzzer

520
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Speaker 4: beater from Damian Lillard at the end of the first quarter.

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Speaker 4: Kyle Kuzma was his at the end of the third quarter.

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Speaker 4: I believe there's a lot of half court shots last night.

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Speaker 4: You also included Drew Holliday if he hit one earlier.

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Speaker 4: That was what stuck out to me. Some good highlights

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Speaker 4: in this one.

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Speaker 3: Also, my first note a lot of dunks, Yeah, a

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Speaker 3: lot of shots made. And yeah, the Wizards, the Porzingis

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Speaker 3: experience was a great one as well. They got him

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Speaker 3: going early. He was shown that he's his bag. His

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Speaker 3: bag sometimes is full, it is. It was fun to

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Speaker 3: see that. And yeah, the Bradley Beal dunk was out

532
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Speaker 3: of nowhere the baseline jam. So they had full experience.

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Speaker 3: And the Blazers, unfortunately, with a young team after beating

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Speaker 3: the Lakers, I guess you could get these nights where

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Speaker 3: they were leaving the Wizards a little too open and

536
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Speaker 3: that's why they were scorching fifty from the floor.

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Speaker 2: Lost every quarter against the Wizards at home in a

538
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Speaker 2: in games where you're like trying to of course win,

539
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Speaker 2: hearing it and play. Disappointing brutal performance defensively from the Blazers.

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Speaker 2: But the Wizards, you know, with Kuzma back, they're like

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Speaker 2: they see Porzingis twenty eight twelve five. They got Kuzma

542
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Speaker 2: thirty three nine rebounds, you know, hit six threes, you

543
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Speaker 2: got Beal, you know, not an amazing game, but nineteen

544
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Speaker 2: points four assists. You know, decent shooting there from from

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Speaker 2: the fields, Like, oh oh, Wizards for sure are going

546
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Speaker 2: to talk themselves into the Big three. Here with these

547
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Speaker 2: guys signed Kyle kuzma'll look out forty two and forty

548
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Speaker 2: next year, it's gonna be gig. It's gonna be big.

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Speaker 2: But they got they took care of business or twenty

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Speaker 2: seven thirty, they're gonna be one of these potentially one

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Speaker 2: of these playing teams too. Right. Oh yeah, there's just

552
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 2: so many teams right now that you're like, one night

553
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Speaker 2: you can convince yourself pretty good and then the next

554
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Speaker 2: night they look like garbage. Like the Blazers are like

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Speaker 2: that to me. The Wizards are like that. Usually there's

556
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Speaker 2: is like a four game stretch where they're really really

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Speaker 2: good and then four game stretch really really bad. The

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00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 2: Raptors are sort of there. The Hawks are absolutely that

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Speaker 2: kind also, am I missing? There's like so many I

560
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Speaker 2: guess the Bulls ish ye.

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Speaker 3: Once they get the once they get Russell Westbrook and

562
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Speaker 3: he propels them to the play in tournament.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, revenge game against the Washington Wizards.

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Speaker 2: That'd be exciting.

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Speaker 4: Portland's like that, Utah's like that now, Okay sees like that.

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Speaker 4: Golden State's like that now. Minnesota definitely is like that,

567
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Speaker 4: though they seem to be pretty consistent these days. But

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Speaker 4: all these teams that are five hundred, they are five

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Speaker 4: hundred for a reason.

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Speaker 2: As Yeah, that's exactly right. All right, Well that's five

571
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Speaker 2: games from last night. Let's hear what we missed. Uh,

572
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Speaker 2: any thoughts on those performances, whatever you got, let us

573
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Speaker 2: know in the stream team tweet us at no dunk sinking.

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Speaker 2: We'll take a first break when we come back. Though

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Speaker 2: some juicy is this news headlines don't go anywhere. Right

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Speaker 2: before the break, we were joking, once Westbrook signs with

577
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Speaker 2: the Bulls and he plays the Wizards, it'd be a

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00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 2: revenge game the joke, Okay, But anyway, Brendan here in

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Speaker 2: the stream team, great idea. This is like Galaxy breen

580
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 2: GM thinking get a team. That's first part. We got

581
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Speaker 2: to get an NBA team, nice trade for one player

582
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Speaker 2: from every team, and then all games of revenge games

583
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Speaker 2: go undefeated. So I mean, obviously you're gonna have a

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Speaker 2: problem like rotating in the thirty guys or twenty nine

585
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,239
Speaker 2: guys I guess from the other twenty nine teams have

586
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 2: to be a lot of G League action going back

587
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Speaker 2: and forth. But every game of revenge game smart. It's motivation.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you gotta target the players like a Westbrook

589
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 4: who have been on many franchises, right, like, oh that's

590
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 4: good at this point. Same with like a Chris Paul.

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Speaker 4: There are players who have been around.

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Speaker 2: Oh so get Fish Smith, Yeah, Garrett Temple, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean it's an interesting Jeff, he's been on a

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Speaker 2: lot of teams.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. If you can go undefeated with this kind of

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00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 4: a team, there's something to this strategy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, let's get into a little is this news?

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Speaker 2: Whoa is this news? All Star edition got a new intro.

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Speaker 3: Baby that's us at All Star podiums.

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Speaker 2: That was I think, so okay, I like it.

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00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, asking questions of the players looking looking way up

602
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 3: because they're all perched up there on their plate.

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00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 2: Well, oh yeah, they used to They didn't used to be.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's a smart movie. Just kept getting higher and higher,

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00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 2: and you kept getting further and further away.

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Speaker 3: That's smart because they used to be eating the tape recorders.

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00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 3: I remember, like my my phone was hitting where my

608
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Speaker 3: mic was hitting Dirk's teeth once, like really really really close.

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Speaker 2: It's a good move. Remember the one time was it

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Speaker 2: was it Chase Buttinger that it's like nobody was around them,

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Speaker 2: and I went up to ask a question because nobody

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Speaker 2: was around. Like, I'm just gonna jump up on the

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Speaker 2: podium with you so that we can have like a

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Speaker 2: real talk. I jump up someone right away, get down.

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Speaker 2: I think he was him when he was in a

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Speaker 2: dunk contest. Yeah he did a white man can't jump?

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Speaker 2: He's rollback. What didn't can't jump? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Okay Mac mclough, we'll see us soon.

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Speaker 2: If you're white, you gotta do it. It's a rule,

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Speaker 2: all right. So I got some headlines for you guys,

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Speaker 2: and the first one is about All Star Weekend. It's

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Speaker 2: from NBA dot Com. The twenty twenty three State Farm

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Speaker 2: All Star Saturday Night Fields announced they did it on

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Speaker 2: tn T Last Night Skills Challenge. We got the bro

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00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 2: we got the on the Coombo Bros. Once again, they've

626
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 2: done this before. Donna, Synthanassis and Alex Team Jazz, Jordan Clarkson,

627
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Speaker 2: Walker Kessler calling sexon and then Team Rooks gotta make

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00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 2: it sound cool instead of saying team rookies. Uh, Paulo

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Speaker 2: Jane and Ivy Smith Junior. It's a three round competition.

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Speaker 2: There's a team relay, there's team passing, there's team shooting,

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Speaker 2: and the team with the most challenged points after three

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Speaker 2: rounds will be the champion. They did do this last year.

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Speaker 3: No one remembers, but yeah does a Kumbo Bros Remember

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00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 3: they lost and they want revenge.

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Speaker 2: We want revenge. I guess let's just touch on that first.

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00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 2: Is this part newsworthy that they're running back this version

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Speaker 2: of the Skills Challenge?

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00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 3: No, it's the lettuce of Saturday Night. It's the filler.

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00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 3: I mean, let's let's be honest. They need a third event.

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Speaker 3: It should be shooting stars.

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00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: The fun part is at the end, if you want

643
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Speaker 3: to call anything fun. Right at the end, I think

644
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 3: all three are shooting in or passing into a ring

645
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:40,959
Speaker 3: at the right at the end.

646
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 2: That's the I thought that was the second comp. But

647
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,959
Speaker 2: maybe yeah, second comp. Well, there's a there's a relay part,

648
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 2: there's a passing. Three different parts.

649
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 3: Oh wow, yeah, Well, anyways, that's the most fun part

650
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 3: because the three bros. I guess I'm imagining the three

651
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 3: bros firing it through the cylinder at the same time.

652
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 3: That's the only fun part. Yea and scene I'm not

653
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 3: talking about it anymore.

654
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 2: For me. Anybody else wants to go ahead.

655
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 4: Hey, man, Joannis is doing an event on Saturday night.

656
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 2: It's fair. I got it. If my brothers in he's.

657
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 4: The only superstar doing anything on Saturday night. You got

658
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 4: to give him props to that. It is the Skills

659
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 4: Game Challenge.

660
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 2: I mean, Damiet.

661
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, Championship MVPs three. That's the top five player

662
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 4: in the league and he's actually showing up to entertain

663
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 4: on Saturday night.

664
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 2: I love it.

665
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 3: He would go on the Dunk Contest if you asked her,

666
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 3: I get did he do a.

667
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 2: White No, he didn't. He didn't. Uh he was a

668
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 2: that was a very young nis. The three point contests.

669
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 2: We talked about it yesterday, but we'll show you the

670
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 2: graphic here for everybody on YouTube. Uh, it's confirmed right now.

671
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 2: It's Haliburton Hero Healed, Herder Lillard marketing. Simon's that we

672
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 2: got injured last night. So I don't know what's going

673
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 2: to be the update on that is his status, Maybe

674
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 2: we'll have to get a replacement. And then Tatum again,

675
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,719
Speaker 2: we talked about this yesterday. Probably not a whole lot

676
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 2: to add is the Starry three point Contest. There will

677
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 2: be those deep balls, and.

678
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 3: It's like I thought, I thought you were referring to

679
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 3: the All stars in here, but yeah, no.

680
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about the drink. Uh yeah. And I

681
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 2: mean if Simon's can't go, who will it be. Well.

682
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 3: I heard on the Phoenix broadcast they're complaining that Damian

683
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 3: Lee is not.

684
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 4: Shot fifty one month. They said, they said, I love it.

685
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 3: Get the stars in there because those threes are harder

686
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 3: than the Damian Lee threes. So it's nice to have

687
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 3: four all stars in there. It's a pretty pretty starry competition.

688
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 3: I would say, yes, so it's it's it's great. Yeah,

689
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 3: I think the lineup.

690
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 2: Is very good.

691
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 3: It's solid.

692
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 2: It's solid. I mean, honestly, get rid of the skills

693
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 2: challenge and give me more three point shooters. Go back

694
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 2: to the old where they shoot at the same time.

695
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 2: It's make it a bigger field. I don't care. Like

696
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 2: the skills is stupid, it's a waste of time. Get

697
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 2: more shooters in there. This one always delivers. It's always

698
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 2: at least entertaining. Someone catchers on fire. You get a

699
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 2: couple of great guys. So yeah, good job, goodfield, and

700
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 2: we'll see what happens with Simon's and who replaces him,

701
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 2: Isaiah Joe what's anomy? Yeah yeah, I mean maybe that'll

702
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 2: be a chance for one of them to slide it.

703
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 2: Maybe another All Star will just do it because they're there.

704
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 2: Dunk participants, No, Sharp, that's right, even though he threw

705
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 2: down last night. It's Kenyon Martin Junr mac McClung who

706
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 2: was signed by the Sixers. So you called that one

707
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 2: TK way back in the day. She said, why don't

708
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 2: we just sign him? Okay, they did, so he'll be

709
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 2: I guess in a Sixers jersey. We've got Trey Murphy

710
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 2: the third and Jericho Simms Big Knick Center with that

711
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: what do they call it? Forty four? Forty five hinge vertical?

712
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 2: I can kiss the rim? Is that way? He wears

713
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 2: forty five? Maybe anyway, not the flashiest names. We'll see

714
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: what they deliver though. On Saturday night we found out

715
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 2: the Dunk judges too. It's a wild bunch. Jamal Crawford

716
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 2: w NBA Great, Lisa Leslie Dunk Great, Dominique Wilkins, Harold

717
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 2: Minor Baby Jordan is one of the Dunk Contests judges,

718
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 2: and then karlme Alone. Any thoughts on who's judging lesis contest.

719
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 3: Least less it was the first to dunk in the

720
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 3: w NBA, right, I do believe she threw it down.

721
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 3: The expectations couldn't be.

722
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 2: Lower, No, they couldn't.

723
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 3: It's good, it's good. Although there's always little nuggets for

724
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 3: me that leading into the All Star Weekend where I

725
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 3: start to get excited. I start to hear these little Oh,

726
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,719
Speaker 3: it's gotta be great, It's gonna be great, no matter what,

727
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 3: it's gonna be great. You should see what this guy's

728
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 3: got played. You should see what this guy's got planned.

729
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 2: But I'm generally keeping expecs.

730
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 3: Let's do let's keep it low so we can only

731
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 3: be pleased. But you know what, you.

732
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 2: Can still be excited for All Star Weekend. I am, yeah,

733
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 2: I know you are. I would say generally we all

734
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 2: are fans of All Star Weekend. It's an exhibition event.

735
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 2: It's sometimes okay, the Dunk contest can stink, but overall

736
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 2: it's fun. But you get all these curmudgeons out there,

737
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: why do we do this? Why do we do this?

738
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 2: It's like I stand for All Star Weekend. I love it.

739
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 2: I don't care like maybe it's a nostalgia factor takes

740
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 2: you back to your youth a little bit. But I'm

741
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 2: pumped regard and credit always. I say to the people

742
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 2: that go in the Dunk Contest, because obviously no one

743
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 2: really wants to the Superstar the least, So the guys

744
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 2: that do go out there, you gotta at least, you know,

745
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 2: give them a chance, is all I'm saying, and see

746
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 2: what they can do instead of shitting on them beforehand,

747
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 2: which a lot of people obviously are.

748
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, at least these guys are in it.

749
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, will you know? It depends what's happened.

750
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 4: We need. The only way that Dunk Contest will ever

751
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 4: come back is if somebody makes it a point to

752
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 4: bring it back, Like goes into the season saying, I'm

753
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 4: going in the Dunk Contest and I'm gonna win it.

754
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 4: I'm gonna put on a show. Yeah that used to

755
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 4: be a thing, yep, but it is no longer a thing.

756
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 4: Mm hm. We need somebody who wants to put the

757
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 4: contest on their back. Maybe it's one of these four.

758
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 3: This could be the weekend of Mac McClung. He's playing

759
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 3: in the Rising Stars on Friday, Dunk Contest on Saturday

760
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 3: and then the league all starts. Oh wow on Sunday,

761
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 3: you're still allowed.

762
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,720
Speaker 4: To play for the G League. While he's got a six,

763
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 4: he's only the second seventy six er who's going to

764
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 4: be doing anything at All Star weekend. Right, and BT

765
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 4: is playing in the game, obviously, but Harden didn't make it.

766
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 4: That was their only really other possible person who.

767
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 2: They don't have a lot of young guys, are right,

768
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 2: So there's nobody in the Rising Stars.

769
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 4: Max, he's your three I think, right, Yes he is,

770
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 4: nang and the three point. Yes, Oh he's a former

771
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 4: Utah guy in the call.

772
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 2: Get the minivan in there.

773
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:27,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right.

774
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 3: McClung is on a two way contract, so I guess

775
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 3: he's technically playing.

776
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 4: For both, doing it both ways at the All Star weekend.

777
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 4: Nice stuff, all right.

778
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 2: Our next headline from The Athletic a fine website, the

779
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 2: NBA and the Players Association discussing tying awards two games played.

780
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 2: All right, let me just explain this really quickly. The NBA,

781
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 2: the mvp A, they have held talks about tying the

782
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 2: league's postseason awards. You know, we're talking m vps and

783
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 2: Most Improves and all that. Stuff to how many games

784
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 2: players appear in during the course of the season. Is

785
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 2: this news?

786
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 3: It's news because it feels like, according to all sources

787
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 3: that Mike Workinoff at the Athletic Talk too, that this

788
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 3: is going to happen. There's gonna be some form of

789
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 3: this in the new CBA so excited that they're at

790
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 3: least trying to address guys sitting out all the time.

791
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,720
Speaker 3: How does it actually get enforced. That's a tough question

792
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 3: because and being sitting out with knee management, well, it's

793
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 3: a knee injury, you know. I don't want to get

794
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 3: into technicalities about about how the hell do you really

795
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 3: enforce it, but that being said, something has to be done.

796
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 3: The numbers were broken down, I think pretty well by

797
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 3: Mike Walkinoff eighteen nineteen, which was the season before everything

798
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 3: got shut down, nine of the top twelve guys who

799
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 3: got MVP votes, So nine of the top twelve played

800
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 3: in sixty nine games or more, so, you know, a

801
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 3: good percentage. And then we had those couple of seasons,

802
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 3: and then the last full season was last year, and

803
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,959
Speaker 3: only three of the top twelve in MVP voting played

804
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 3: sixty nine or more. So they are addressing. And I

805
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 3: think even though it feels like it's been happening for

806
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 3: a long time, the new CBA will have something in

807
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 3: it and that is this the newest version of it,

808
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 3: so that I just don't know how it happens, but

809
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 3: it is interesting a guy has to play in sixty

810
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 3: five games to win MVP.

811
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 2: Or whatever number they put on it.

812
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just seems a little but I'm not smart

813
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 3: enough to understand to figure out exactly what what's gonna

814
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 3: be written, but it makes sense that they're at least

815
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 3: they addressing it.

816
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 2: And do you think this is really solely an attempt

817
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 2: to yeah, sort of figure out load management and less

818
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 2: and less like concern about the actual awards and how

819
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 2: it's you know, voted on and stuff like that, and

820
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 2: how people like people take this into consideration as it is,

821
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 2: I think for the most part, some voters.

822
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, but if everybody's playing sixty five to seventy games, right,

823
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 3: what does it matter if everybody's driving seventy I'm driving seventy.

824
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 3: You know, it's like everybody's everybody's taking off games and

825
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 3: that's miles, it's not kilometers.

826
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 2: What do you think Trey about this idea? Of tying

827
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 2: games played to awards.

828
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 4: I think Joel Embiid would agree with you, Skeetz that

829
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 4: award voting is kind of already tied to games play. Yeah,

830
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 4: he's the guy who has the biggest beef with regards

831
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,439
Speaker 4: to games played in the past couple of seasons. There's

832
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 4: definitely like a potential for shenanigans when you're trying to

833
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 4: get your games played numbers up, get on the court

834
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 4: for the tip of foul sub out that counts as

835
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 4: a game played right now, I guess I would screw

836
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 4: with your averages though, true screw with your averages, But

837
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 4: I agree with Tasks. I think it's interesting and I

838
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 4: think it's news because the league is clearly trying to

839
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 4: figure out a solution for load management. Player availability and

840
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 4: general lack of interest in the regular season is like

841
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,760
Speaker 4: the biggest issue in the league right now. So getting

842
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 4: ahead of it right now and at least trying and

843
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 4: making an effort to figure out something with both sides contributing,

844
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 4: I think is going to be huge in the next CBA.

845
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 4: Because there's quotes in here and the Mike workanoff piece

846
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 4: from Silver talking about how like it's going to be

847
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,760
Speaker 4: different when we sign this next deal, We're not signing

848
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 4: it like a big bundle like back in the day. Yeah,

849
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 4: there's a lot more streamers coming in, there's a lot

850
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 4: more options out there, so we need to get the

851
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 4: best product that we possibly can on the court every

852
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 4: single night. We'll see what that ends up being. But

853
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 4: I think it's uh, I think it's Newsy, just because

854
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 4: clearly they're trying to negotiate something going forward.

855
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the other thing with this too is like

856
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 2: it's not like you if you buy a ticket to

857
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 2: a game, like if you actually go to the game,

858
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 2: it's not like every ticket, you know, I'm talking about

859
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 2: the same seat. Of course, it's not same for for

860
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 2: all forty one home games. Teams charge a premium price

861
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 2: of them for high end stars, high end teams coming through,

862
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 2: you know, with the Honest and Curry and Lebron stuff

863
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 2: like that, and so they charge you for that. And

864
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 2: then sometimes I'm not like singling out those guys at all,

865
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 2: I just use them as examples. But like those stars

866
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 2: then will sometimes not play for load management. This has

867
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 2: happened a lot over the last couple of weeks. I

868
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 2: guess Cleveland got hosed a couple of times where a

869
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,919
Speaker 2: bunch of teams came and didn't play. Some of it injury, yes,

870
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 2: some of it load management. But that's a kick to

871
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,760
Speaker 2: the nuts, right for obviously paying more for a ticket

872
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 2: to see that on a league that totally markets itself

873
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 2: as come, see this superstar, comes, see this superstar, and

874
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 2: then the load management sometimes takes them out. So you know,

875
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 2: outside of and we don't need to go over it again.

876
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 2: Of course, reducing games, will it ever happen? That's revenue

877
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 2: that the owners want. So yeah, this maybe is like

878
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 2: some small step to trying to figure out load management.

879
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 2: I mean, you're the baseball guy of the bunch. There

880
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 2: is a gold Glove qualification. What are you talking? I

881
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 2: don't know. Well, yeah, you have to play a certain

882
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 2: amount of games or a certain amount of innings, like through

883
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 2: x amount of games. Toy it for it. So they

884
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 2: do it in baseball. But they love their numbers. They

885
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 2: love their numbers in baseball.

886
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 4: How did this slip your mind? Task? You have to

887
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 4: log seven hundred and thirteen innings in your team's first

888
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 4: one hundred and forty one games to qualify Gold Glove

889
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 4: At the old.

890
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 3: They just don't care what the last twenty one games get.

891
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 4: Your votes in?

892
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 2: Well, maybe they know that's when you guys are again. Yeah,

893
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 2: I mean teams have sometimes locked up spots and stuff

894
00:40:58,600 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: like that. I don't know.

895
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, I will say though, I don't think MB

896
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 3: having played fewer games last year than just looking at

897
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 3: it now, I don't think it really factors in that much. Yes,

898
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 3: last year he played six fewer games in Jokic. The

899
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 3: year before was a weird it was a you know,

900
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 3: a shortened season. I just don't think it factors in.

901
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 2: But then, of course ago, Yeah, the whole Rookie of

902
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: the Year situation where we played thirty games, was by

903
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 2: far the best rookie, right, yeah, thirty one games. He

904
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 2: was the best rookie. But that was held against them,

905
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 2: and I think at some point, sure, you can't play

906
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 2: ye games.

907
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 4: He was talking through it all last year. He was saying,

908
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 4: I'm playing in every game I can possibly play, and

909
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 4: what else can I do? Yeah?

910
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's hear from everybody on that one.

911
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 2: I think that's fascinating. You like this idea of tying

912
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 2: possibly games played two awards, and then you know there's

913
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 2: incentives with these, like monetary value added to a lot

914
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 2: of these awards and selections and stuff like.

915
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 3: That's the other angle that it's not just to get

916
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,240
Speaker 3: guys playing, just get them excited about money.

917
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that usually motivates most people. So if it's hey,

918
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 2: you got to play in seventy games to make this

919
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 2: all NBA selection, what then allows you possibility of super

920
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 2: Max and all that or whatever awards, whatever bonus you

921
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 2: have to win in good year. You're talking about it.

922
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 2: They're talking about its good, and I guess the Players

923
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 2: Association sound open to it too. It's not just like

924
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 2: a one way street here with him. Yeah good.

925
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 3: They're talking about streaming these micro blogs and playbacks.

926
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 2: This makes sense.

927
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I was watching a recap yesterday. It was

928
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 3: just Matt Winer of NBA TV reading the highlights over

929
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 3: a recap of a game. It feels like that is ancient,

930
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 3: Like who's gonna watch a recap of it? Just feels

931
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 3: like forever ago recaps are dead.

932
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 2: I enjoy it though, all right. Next one, here, ESPN

933
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 2: net's trying to figure out Ben Simmons usage without Katie

934
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 2: and Kyrie. This is from two days ago now at

935
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,959
Speaker 2: this point, but let's have the Ben Simmons conversation because

936
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 2: he did play just thirteen minutes the other night. We

937
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: briefly touched on it here on the pod. Is this

938
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 2: news here Jacquevaughan trying to figure out how to play

939
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 2: Ben Simmons TK with without the superstars around.

940
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 4: I don't is it news? I mean, I guess, so

941
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 4: the guy three time All Star, one time All NBA player,

942
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 4: and we're talking about a team that has no stars,

943
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 4: So I think it is a little bit news. But

944
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 4: I think what jacque Vaughn said was pretty damning. You

945
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 4: put another big next to Ben, then you got to

946
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 4: figure out what the spacing is around him. Then if

947
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 4: you put another playmaker next to him, then you got

948
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 4: to figure out what Ben looks like without the basketball.

949
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 4: Then if you go small with Ben, then you have

950
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 4: to figure out can you rebound enough with them? Can't

951
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 4: play big, can't play small, can't play off the ball.

952
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 4: It's the worst Doctor Seuss Ryan all time. Basically, he's

953
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 4: their third string center right now. People have pitched in

954
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 4: the past a Ben Simmons surrounded by defense and shooting lineup.

955
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 4: That is what the Nets have right now. They've got

956
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 4: four guys in the rotation who shoot forty percent from three.

957
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 4: If ever there was a team you could build around

958
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 4: on Ben Simmons as the star, this could be it.

959
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 4: But it's not even a thought. It's not even a

960
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 4: consideration for Jacquevon is just trying to figure out if

961
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 4: they can do anything possible to get his trade value

962
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 4: off the absolute basement of the NBA and figure a

963
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 4: way to get rid of him. So I don't know,

964
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's gonna happen. People always like

965
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 4: to say, off Ben Simmons is in a situation with

966
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 4: no pressure. He's in one now. People also said the

967
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 4: perfect situation for Ben Simmons would be playing next to

968
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 4: Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant. All he's got to do

969
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 4: is be Draymond Green. He went out and put up

970
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 4: a triple single, but he ain't Draymond Green. So jacq

971
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 4: Von has a lot of figuring to do if he

972
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 4: doesn't think he can play him with any other players.

973
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 2: I think Jake Fisher had the report going round that

974
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 2: they are trying to in the offseason look to move

975
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 2: Ben Simmons. But what are you getting back for this guy?

976
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 2: So maybe you're right trade Maybe jacque Von is being

977
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 2: encouraged from management. Hey man, figure it out if you can,

978
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 2: because we do need to build this guy's trade value

979
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 2: up a little bit to possibly convince the team to

980
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 2: take him in an offseason move.

981
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 3: I don't think a coach has articulated it in that

982
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 3: manner that deeply, that is that well, that that amount

983
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 3: of detail, and I think jon Von is just a

984
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 3: six trade up kind of guy. Yeah, but in years

985
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 3: past it's been different because he was comfortable shooting the

986
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 3: ball within five feet. So jacq Vaughn said, it's tough

987
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 3: to play him, you know, with another big because of spacing. Okay,

988
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 3: we've known that it's tough to play him at center

989
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 3: because he's too small. We've known that as well. But

990
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 3: now it's tough to play him with another point guard

991
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 3: because he's not going to be shooting it within five feet.

992
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 3: And if he's not handling the ball, then what is

993
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 3: he doing. He's he can't put him in the dunker

994
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 3: spot because he ain't duncan. So that's the problems. It's

995
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 3: a different bend and this is just a totally different player.

996
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 3: So will he be traded?

997
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

998
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 3: Two more years at a monstrous figure, so you know,

999
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 3: close to forty mili for these next two years. You've

1000
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 3: got to have a team that's basically doesn't have a salary,

1001
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 3: doesn't pay anyone to take him on, and to probably

1002
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 3: take a draft pick in the off season. That is

1003
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 3: the recipe, because he's not almost trading for his talent

1004
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 3: at this point.

1005
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 2: Uh. Final headline here, and it's a weird one. It's

1006
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 2: from the AP. I don't even know why I put

1007
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 2: it in here. It's a fun story or a weird story.

1008
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 2: Fake sports memorabilia worth millions seized. Okay, so, law enforcement

1009
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 2: agents confiscated over six hundred fake championship rings across four

1010
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 2: major US sports leagues and the NCAA from a South

1011
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 2: Carolina memorabilia store as part of a seizure of counterfeit merchandise.

1012
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 2: Counterfeit goods could have fetched as much as fifteen million

1013
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 2: dollars in retail. Is this news? It's actually news, man.

1014
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 4: I love to have a take for every one of

1015
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 4: these news stories, and this one was tough skis.

1016
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, what'd you come up with? Man? You're pro professional.

1017
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 4: I did come up with one. Okay, it's gonna be

1018
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,720
Speaker 4: news when I pull a heist to steal a fake

1019
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 4: Bulls Championship ring.

1020
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody again. I know it's fake.

1021
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 4: It probably looks real enough if it looked real enough

1022
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 4: that they had to do a raid to find it.

1023
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 4: It looks real enough when it's on my finger. Yeah,

1024
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 4: I got this from Judd Bushler, you know, so I

1025
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 4: just got to find out where they're keeping these things.

1026
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:23,760
Speaker 4: Get a crew and pull a move, because I'm coming

1027
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 4: for those fake bulls rings.

1028
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had eighty three NBA Finals rings part of

1029
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 2: the the counterfeit stash here.

1030
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 3: I guess you gotta have some cash because you gotta

1031
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 3: pay for it, right.

1032
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 2: Well, I'm Steelers.

1033
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, smart? Are these three d printed? I want

1034
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 3: to know how did I'm just kidding. Of course, they're

1035
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:51,439
Speaker 3: just They're just fakes they got. They got Oliver in

1036
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 3: Canada to make these four of them. No, Oliver wouldn't

1037
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 3: do something like six hundred fake championship rings that these

1038
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 3: would have garnered fifth fifteen million dollars quick math twenty

1039
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 3: five grand each. But uh, you know they end the

1040
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:10,720
Speaker 3: Bulls rings way more than the Stanley Cup rings, I assume. Yeah,

1041
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 3: no offense to our National Hockey League loving friends.

1042
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 2: Do all of the rings in the other sports, football,

1043
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 2: with the Super Bowl, hockey, with the Stanley Cup Baseball

1044
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:26,720
Speaker 2: World Series? Is it like the NBA where they're like personalized?

1045
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 2: Like are these eighty three NBA Finals rings? Does it

1046
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 2: say Judd Bushler on one of these rings? That's a

1047
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 2: lot of work.

1048
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 4: Probably depends on the year.

1049
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, that's true. The old ones, they probably didn't

1050
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 2: do it. It's like, here's a fancy ring. Yeah, here

1051
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 2: you go. Islanders. There had to be an Islander ring.

1052
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 2: They won four in a row. Yeah, for sure. In

1053
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 2: the early eighties, definitely when they were not personalizing though.

1054
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 2: The Oilers Magus Regretski.

1055
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 3: I would love the backup goalie. I mean, i'd love

1056
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 3: the starting goal I'd love grand Fear's ring. I'll be nice,

1057
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 3: that'd be that'd be super.

1058
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 2: Bill Ranford nice. I guess he did one one. Yeah,

1059
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 2: I don't know ninety.

1060
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 3: I think it was ninety Bill backstopping in nineteen ninety.

1061
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure Bill Ranford nex stopping, Bill Ranford.

1062
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 3: Stop in Bill Ranford. Yeah, I love it. I want

1063
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 3: to I want a gold glove ring. Do you get

1064
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 3: a ring for a gold glove?

1065
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 2: This?

1066
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 4: This?

1067
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 2: What do you get?

1068
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 4: Don't you get?

1069
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 2: Like?

1070
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1071
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 2: Is it an trophy? Yeah? And then the Silver Sluggers

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Speaker 2: they get like a little.

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Speaker 3: Bat Yeah, like you're in that cool little league.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but better. Uh. It appears that Bill Ranford won

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Speaker 2: two Stanley.

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Speaker 3: Cups ninety had to be one.

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Speaker 2: I believe you're right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was there.

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Speaker 2: Oh geez, he won the con Smeyth Trophy MVP nineteen ninety.

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00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 2: Nice good man, what are you? I think he won

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Speaker 2: eighty eight great curls Bill Ranford? All right, if you

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Speaker 2: have thoughts on that headline, let us know. The one

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00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 2: part of the story says two hundred and fifty one

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00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 2: and championship rings for unnamed sports.

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00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 4: Any sport.

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00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like fencing, lacrosse and stuff. Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 2: that's is this news. Let's take it one more break.

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Speaker 2: It's a quickie. When we come back, pick them results

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Speaker 2: and a very fun tweeting the night don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we are in the classic factory. Let's

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Speaker 2: start wrapping this up. You know what, add the Kings

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00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 2: to one of those teams that's infuriating to figure out

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00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 2: from night tonight. I know they have a great record,

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00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 2: but as of late, it's like, look, unbelievable. One night

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00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 2: and then they lose and they played the good Suns

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00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 2: team last night. But that's a loss for me and Tassin.

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00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 2: The pick them. They had a little couple points to

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Speaker 2: play with. Two Trey got it right, five and five,

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Speaker 2: five and five, I'm four and six. What's tonight's game?

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00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 2: There's a lot on, there's a lot on.

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00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 3: It's a nice sked James Wiseman's debut with the Pistons

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00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 3: when they visit the Celtics. Let's see what he's got. Also,

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00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 3: more importantly, I gotta say the battle for third in

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00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 3: the Eastern Conference calves going after those Sixers. They are

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00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 3: visiting Philadelphia, who are favored by two point five points skeets,

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Speaker 3: and I think the Caves will keep it at least

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Speaker 3: close within two or win this game. Trade you got

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00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,439
Speaker 3: the Sixers. What's the feel on the game tonight? Because

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00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 3: this is this is important to the standing.

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Speaker 4: Should be a good game, should be a nice match here.

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00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I just feel like the Sixers are feeling a little bit.

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00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 4: Uh take it for granted right now. I want a

1114
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 4: little reminder here. We've been talking about a lot of teams.

1115
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 4: Sixers didn't do a whole bunch at the trade deadline.

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00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 4: So let's see him put up a nice match.

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Speaker 2: I think the Calves could almost say the same thing. Yeah,

1118
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 2: seven game wins streak, that's sort of going under the radar. Yeah,

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00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 2: so hopefully everybody's basically a full strength and have a

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Speaker 2: good one here tonight. Sixers got to win by three

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Speaker 2: for TK to get that win. Otherwise, task and I

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00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 2: will get it if they keep it close or even

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00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 2: win outright, the Calves do so this jam new song

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00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 2: every day here for pick them. I don't know what's

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Speaker 2: going Are we just going to continue with this? Have

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00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 2: we zeroed in on one more than another? I have

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00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 2: not picked one? Okay, I need anything jumping out to you? No,

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Speaker 2: not really, not really. Let's get to tweet of the night,

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Speaker 2: Tweet of the night. Wow tweeted the night and yesterday

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00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 2: was Valentine's Day and Arianna Lenarski on Twitter, I guess

1131
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 2: for the fourth year in a row. I had missed

1132
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Speaker 2: the three previous years, but for the fourth year in

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00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 2: a row. Announced the twenty two twenty three All Hunk

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Speaker 2: NBA Official Selections. First Team. Let's go through them all.

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Speaker 2: Hunk okay uh O Chai Abajie of the Jazz Haul netto.

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00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 2: Those are the two guards as the first team, Jimmy Butler, Jannis,

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Speaker 2: Nick Claxton. Okay, those that's the All Hunk First team,

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00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 2: All Hunks Second Team Jalen Green, Devin Booker, Utawatanabe, Kelly

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00:52:54,600 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 2: Hubray Junior, Steven Adams, Aquaman Third team Gabe one of

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00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 2: the guards. And we had a tie between Jordan Clarkson

1141
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,760
Speaker 2: and Drew Holly. This was voted on Ruey Hatchamura, Jeremy

1142
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 2: Grant and Jalen Duran. That is your All Hunks selections. Now,

1143
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 2: there was a follow up tweet from Ariana there and

1144
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,240
Speaker 2: it read we are in our fourth year old voting.

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00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 2: It was an interesting one. Voters are experiencing fatigue with

1146
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 2: some perennial Hunks. For example, Damian Lillard made first team

1147
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 2: three years in a row. This year he didn't even place,

1148
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 2: So you forgot about how sexy Damian Lillard still is

1149
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 2: not even making the any of the selections. Any thoughts

1150
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 2: and how the voting went down, and maybe maybe some

1151
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 2: All Hunks snubs.

1152
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,959
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I thought I thought there'd be a third

1153
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 3: tweet for Al Horford.

1154
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 2: Where's Al? Where's Al?

1155
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 3: Could have been a fatigue exactly.

1156
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,240
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, fifteen years into his NBA career,

1157
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 4: the guy's probably made the at least the first three

1158
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 4: teams out of fifteen seasons.

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00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd say all NBA first. And that's what it

1160
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 3: comes down to for me. If you're on the second

1161
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 3: or third team, don't care about you. You got to

1162
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Speaker 3: make the first team. Is this going to Basketball Reference page?

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00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,280
Speaker 2: It should? I should. I'm with you. I see Drome

1164
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 2: here in our flack channel. He's saying, Sergeabaka struggling to

1165
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 2: find a spot on the All Hunk team. He does

1166
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 2: a great looking man does fashion. Yeah, great point, but

1167
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 2: I'm guessing Obaca made a couple uh all hunk teams

1168
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,439
Speaker 2: and years prior. Oh Chaya Baji. Yeah, I didn't know. Well,

1169
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 2: Arianna even went on. I didn't include the tweet, but

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00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 2: it was like, yeah, out of nowhere. She was like,

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00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 2: we didn't even know who this guy was nowhere a

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Speaker 2: week ago.

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Speaker 3: Jazz fans, No, but yeah, come on, I'm.

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00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 4: Really happy to see howl netto make the first team.

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00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 4: I'm always stumping for him when voting comes around, you know,

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00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 4: I'm sending little packages to the voters. Vote Howl he'll

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Speaker 4: make you howl.

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00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, they love it. Oh, he made it.

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00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 4: Saw him once in person, out of PF sans just

1180
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 4: as handsoman person. People will talk about how striking his

1181
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,280
Speaker 4: eyes are enough now.

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00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 2: They will Uh. Do you think Jimmy Butler was helped

1183
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 2: out by the uh preseason media day photo with uh

1184
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 2: the long locks?

1185
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 4: Seeing his clean shaven face. Yeah, two looks, yeah look yeah,

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00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 4: very good.

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00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was probably there was probably a little voter

1188
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 3: fatigue with him, so he decided to change it up.

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Speaker 2: Are you most surprised by to see on this?

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00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 4: I don't have like Nick Claxton in my top five.

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00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 2: He's a good looking guy. I mean, Drew Holiday shocked

1192
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 2: me a little bit. I was like, really, I don't

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00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 2: see it.

1194
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 4: He's looking normal looking dude.

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00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,280
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say he's sexy.

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00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 3: He's cute, He's I think he's cute.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I think a lot of these are are

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00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 2: really good. I think they've done a pretty good job

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Speaker 2: on these. Whoever was voting, I'd love to know the

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Speaker 2: numbers how many people were voting. We gotta you know what,

1201
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 2: We're doing an entire podcast on this next year. I

1202
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 2: got we gotta get in touch with Ariana. Do some crossover.

1203
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 4: Work here, big Survivor fan. I'm in a group chat

1204
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 4: with her roll literally randomly, I was like, what to

1205
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 4: see this name show up?

1206
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 2: Oh? There you go.

1207
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 4: Okay, so we'll follow up. Well, I'll see if I

1208
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 4: can track down the voting list so we can see

1209
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 4: all the individual votes listed out. Everybody who got a

1210
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 4: third team vote. Exciting jo Albarado, crazy crazy man, no

1211
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 4: Shake Gill, just Alexander mm mmmm, it's.

1212
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 2: Wild not a single Canadian in the mix?

1213
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, nope, shay, Yeah, how serious do voters take the

1214
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 3: word hunk?

1215
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 2: And what's your definition of honk? That's a good good point,

1216
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 2: good point.

1217
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 3: And who uses the word hunk?

1218
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 2: I know you don't see it all hunky should absolutely

1219
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 2: go in their basketball reference page to try and talk

1220
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 2: to somebody there too about that. Okay, great stuff, Arianna,

1221
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 2: thank you for the very funny tweets. Let's of course

1222
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 2: here from everybody in the stream team, everybody listening watching

1223
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 2: later tweet out is that no dunk sink biggest snub

1224
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 2: from this year's All Hunk selections? Or yeah, somebody you

1225
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 2: were shocked that was just added to the group here. Okay,

1226
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 2: we're back tomorrow. Hey, get your tickets to our live

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Speaker 2: show this Friday. We are talking, we are, We're getting

1228
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Speaker 2: into mere hours before we're live on stage in Salt

1229
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 2: Lake City. We will have a show tomorrow morning, then

1230
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 2: we jump on a plane to Salt Lake City, and

1231
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 2: then we have the live show on Friday night, February seventeenth.

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Speaker 2: A few tickets remain, so if you're in the area,

1233
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 2: you're coming to All Star Weekend, hope to see you there. Otherwise,

1234
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 2: lots of games on tonight and we'll break them all

1235
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 2: down on Tomorrow's No Dunks till then, Clipper Brost. You

1236
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 2: heard it here first.

1237
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 4: Have a great time, turn up, love you guys awesome.

1238
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us.

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00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 3: And remember the podcast name No Hunks. Unfortunately it's unavailable.

1240
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 3: Somebody took it. What about Locks.

1241
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,919
Speaker 4: I'm guessing that one's available for a podcast probably Brace

1242
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Speaker 4: today people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah,