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Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It's Friday, August second, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen, episode numbers nineteen.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of The Break. We are live

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Speaker 1: from Oxnard, California, talking a little Cowboys football with you guys. Today.

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Speaker 1: It is the Groundhog Day around here. Another day of

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Speaker 1: practice this afternoon. Cowboys will take the fill around three

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Speaker 1: thirty pm Pacific time. They have a walk through this

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Speaker 1: morning that is not available to the public, But if

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Speaker 1: you're in the Oxnard area and want to come out

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Speaker 1: and check out a practice, you can come out this afternoon,

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow afternoon or Sunday, which say is the day of

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Speaker 1: the Blue Light Scrimmage. That'll start up around three thirty

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Speaker 1: Pacific as well. How's everybody feeling this morning? What did

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Speaker 1: do baby? Good day for you day great always great? Good.

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Speaker 1: I see you got your Mariners thing oh yeah, sorry, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: feeling a little good about your team right now? No,

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Speaker 1: they're terrible representing there you go. All right, let's talk

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Speaker 1: a little Cowboys football. Nick, Let's start off first getting

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Speaker 1: with some injuries. They are only I don't know, it

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Speaker 1: seems like there hasn't really been much in the way

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Speaker 1: to there. Yeah, because when it happens, yeah, it when

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Speaker 1: an ankle injury, lancelin Or with a knee injury. Talk

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Speaker 1: me through the severity of Sean Lee's injury, because when

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Speaker 1: where are we with that? And what's the severity of

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Speaker 1: rightfully so with his injury history. It was I think

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Speaker 1: he waited a long time before they finally let him go.

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Speaker 1: So it's a it's a minor mcl sprain. I know.

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Speaker 1: and they don't want to push him and make it worse.

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Speaker 1: the right read on that, Nick? Just? I think so.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they asked Jason about the surgery, It's like,

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Speaker 1: to the break. So sorry, we got a hundred things

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Speaker 1: going on out here at training camp, so but let's

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Speaker 1: jump back in. We do have a lot to talk

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Speaker 1: about before we get to questions, which I appreciate all

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Speaker 1: you guys sending us so many great questions last night

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Speaker 1: and this morning, We're gonna get to some of those

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Speaker 1: I want this guy, these guys to talk a little

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Speaker 1: bit about practice yesterday, some observations that maybe they saw

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Speaker 1: during the time the Cowboys were on the field yesterday afternoon,

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Speaker 1: some things that maybe stood out to them. We'll start

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Speaker 1: first with Amber. What did you see yesterday? Amber? Well,

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Speaker 1: I was excited yesterday because finally the energy level went

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Speaker 1: up a little bit. I think the previous two padded practice,

476
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Speaker 1: the energy wasn't necessarily there, at least to me, and

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Speaker 1: yesterday they seemed moving like the energy was there. That

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Speaker 1: we're moving faster, doing more things around. One of the

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Speaker 1: things I noticed, speaking of the running back position, Darius Jackson.

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Speaker 1: He's a guy that doesn't necessarily excite me because of

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Speaker 1: the things that we've seen in the past. You know,

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Speaker 1: we haven't seen not that he's going that many opportunities before,

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Speaker 1: but I don't feel that he has taken advantage of

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Speaker 1: those or capitalized on them. But now I think that

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Speaker 1: he's definitely making some progress. He caught my eyes yesterday

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Speaker 1: and he's able to move in there penetrate. I love

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Speaker 1: using that work, not really but Oh my god, this

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Speaker 1: football turns football football is like dirty okay, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: thank you. So he's able to get in there and

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Speaker 1: and move fast, cut fast, and I like the power

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Speaker 1: and the burst that he has right now, and it's

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Speaker 1: exciting to see that from a guy that you know, hopefully,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, we'll see what happens there at the

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Speaker 1: running back position. But he's a guy that stood out

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Speaker 1: to me yesterday and the things that he was doing.

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Speaker 1: Um my guy, Jalen jokes. I thought I had a

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Speaker 1: couple of nice plays in the and the one on

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Speaker 1: one that's one thing I was I was kind of

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Speaker 1: looking at there um and also him and Dorians Armstrong,

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Speaker 1: both those guys that I can see they're actually looks

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Speaker 1: like they're putting them in the situations where they're going

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Speaker 1: up against better competition. I saw Dorn's going up against

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Speaker 1: Tyron Smith wasn't terrible. It was pretty Oh did you

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Speaker 1: not see the one play beat him? Yeah? He put

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Speaker 1: him in the spin cycle? Yeah no, yeah that not

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Speaker 1: just did he not? He he destroyed tyme embarrassed from

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Speaker 1: the standpoint of like just is quick from this no,

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Speaker 1: because he came back next Yeah, exactly. But Hey, if

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Speaker 1: you're that guy and you're going up against Tyron and

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Speaker 1: you win once, that's a victory. Like that is a

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Speaker 1: big victory. And Tyron Smith holds himself to such a

512
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Speaker 1: high standard. I bet he was pissed. Yeah, maybe even embarrassed.

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Speaker 1: Think about it, as a defensive end, if you average

514
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Speaker 1: one sack of game, you're gonna probably lead the NFL,

515
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Speaker 1: be close to it. So that would have been his

516
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Speaker 1: sack that game. Like, that's that's big, that's huge. That

517
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 1: was big. But you could just tell that they're starting

518
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Speaker 1: to get those defensive ends and Jokes is in that

519
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Speaker 1: group too, I believe, maybe not as high as Durrance,

520
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 1: but they're starting to get those guys in there a

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00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: little bit more reps. And so it started out offensive

522
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: line was really dominating that and I think the defensive

523
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Speaker 1: line is catching up a little bit and starting to

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Speaker 1: be more competitive in those drills. Dave, I'm just gonna

525
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Speaker 1: sit over here and drive the Jordan Lewis hype train.

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Speaker 1: My man Jay lou ate his wheaties. Yesterday. He's killing

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Speaker 1: people out there. He beat up He beat everybody in

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Speaker 1: one on ones. He had three pass breakups. Yeah, Cedric

529
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Speaker 1: Wilson had a completion on him down the field. Cool story, bro,

530
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Speaker 1: you did six moves, you did come, you did a hitch,

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Speaker 1: then you went out, then you went up, then you

532
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Speaker 1: went out, then you went up, and you finally caught

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Speaker 1: the ball on Jay Lou after seven seconds, which would

534
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Speaker 1: never happen, So you can have that. He was. He's awesome.

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Speaker 1: I you know, he's the best. Somebody I think it

536
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Speaker 1: was Kavanaugh tweeted, he's the best fourth cornerback in the NFL.

537
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: Like it's crazy, he's he's balling out here. I was

538
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Speaker 1: excited for him. Yeah, that was a great catch by uh,

539
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Speaker 1: it was, It really was. It was. Yeah. Yeah, I

540
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: know that there's so much fun to watch, but it's

541
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 1: so biased against the dB, which is two three horn,

542
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: like below the horn, they'd throw it. Yeah, but that's

543
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: also why the guy that I'll point out, Wow, I'm

544
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: so impressed with him yesterday, which is Mike Jackson. He

545
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 1: had an interception, very very nice interception. But then there

546
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: were other parts during team we had some pass breakups.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he was he was balling yesterday. Actually throw

548
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Speaker 1: it out there. Anthony Brown really played really he had

549
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Speaker 1: a great Yeah, and actually Anthony Brown. It's really been

550
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Speaker 1: the last two days. I thought that he's had really good,

551
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Speaker 1: really a performance out of here to say, if we're

552
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Speaker 1: talking about cornerbacks, I think that probably the most surprising

553
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 1: of all was the fact that Chris Westrey back came back.

554
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: We had talked about, you know this, we didn't know

555
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: what the situation was, and it really looked like he

556
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 1: was gone. Looked like he backed his bags and left,

557
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Speaker 1: and maybe he did for a little bit, which wouldn't

558
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Speaker 1: be the first time comes back. He's got some things

559
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 1: in order. He had a good practice actually, and maybe

560
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: it was because we thought he wasn't gonna play again,

561
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: but he came back and actually showed those long arms.

562
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Speaker 1: He's got his six four. They did a pretty nice

563
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: job out there. So I think that was his best

564
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: practice since you know that we've seen from him. Maybe

565
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Speaker 1: we were just watching him more because we're like, oh,

566
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Speaker 1: he's back, but he did pretty good. Yeah, when we

567
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: talked yesterday about you know, which position has been the

568
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: better position, and we kind of I think we all

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00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 1: kind of agree, Well, it's definitely the offensive line. I

570
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: don't know. Defensive backs. I think they're having a really

571
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: really solid camp. And that's the thing. You got to

572
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: put it in context because defensive backs, they're not gonna

573
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 1: win every time, but you gotta win sometime, and they

574
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: are finding their fair share of wins against this receiver

575
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: group with two things going against them. Number one, they're

576
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: best players not with them, and two, these drills are

577
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 1: designed for the offense to make plays and make them

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Speaker 1: look bad, and they're not. So that's really good. All right,

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Speaker 1: Let's get into some questions again. Really appreciate you guys

580
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: giving us some good stuff to go through here. Amber's

581
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: gonna read some of these questions. We're gonna get through

582
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: a lot of them today, a lot of different topics.

583
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: So let's get going what you got, don't start rambling,

584
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: don't talk too much if we're gonna get them a lot. Okay,

585
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 1: it's fair, all right. With everything going on with Zeke, well,

586
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: this offense focus more on Dak's mobility and a return

587
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: of Nick's favorite thing. Oh man, once a game, I

588
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 1: think they should do it. Um, you know, I think

589
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: that that's a hard question to answer right now, because, yeah,

590
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 1: the Zeke's not here and they're gonna do things differently

591
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Speaker 1: without him. If they have to play without him, which

592
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: I thought was interesting with some of the things that

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Speaker 1: Jerry said. Um, I guess it didn't make the first

594
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Speaker 1: two segments of our show. But um I do think

595
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: that they're preparing some things to do without him. It'll

596
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: be it'll be different. I don't know about just running

597
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: Dak all the time. Once they gave him thirty million

598
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: a year or whatever they're gonna I don't see them

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Speaker 1: running him a lot. They should, though, but they don't

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Speaker 1: run him a lot. They haven't run him a lot

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Speaker 1: in my opinion for the first three years. I think

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Speaker 1: he runs at opportune times, which I'm okay with they should.

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Speaker 1: I think you should run more like But I also

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Speaker 1: what I wonder, though, I wonder if it's diminishing returns.

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Speaker 1: I think if you, I wonder if you run him more,

606
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: are you going to get less of the big plays?

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Speaker 1: Because what I love about Dak right now is he

608
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Speaker 1: can go a whole game and not run it, and

609
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Speaker 1: then you get to the fourth quarter and it's you

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Speaker 1: gotta have it right now, And like the Seattle game,

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Speaker 1: he has this huge run that wins the ball game

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Speaker 1: for you. So he's not the fastest, you know, he's

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Speaker 1: not the guy that's gonna make everybody miss. So I

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Speaker 1: don't know how much I want him running, but I

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Speaker 1: want him to be opportune when there are opportunities that

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Speaker 1: make sense run him well. I think a little bit

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Speaker 1: more than that. I've always compared it to to Cam

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Speaker 1: Newton and how that is a big part of their

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Speaker 1: offense where he will run. But remember, right now, we

620
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Speaker 1: think Dak's this big, strong young guy that can take

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Speaker 1: this these hits, and I believe Cam did it as well.

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Speaker 1: But over time it definitely it does. But I think

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Speaker 1: there's you look at the Jacksonville game. They're an aggressive defense,

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Speaker 1: and that was the design for him to run. I

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Speaker 1: think he ran eleven times having a touchdown. I mean

626
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Speaker 1: he can be a difference maker there and that will

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Speaker 1: only open things up. That's also about the game plan.

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Speaker 1: You play that kind of defense and maybe you do it.

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Speaker 1: You play another defense that doesn't do that, and maybe

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Speaker 1: you decide, hey, this is a week we want dat

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Speaker 1: We want Dac to stay back in the pock. We

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Speaker 1: don't necessarily want to run him a lot. We may

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Speaker 1: find an opportune moment to run him, but it's not

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Speaker 1: going to be an every week thing like against everything.

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Speaker 1: Jason Garrett tries to preach to us, we do what

636
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: we do well, if you do what you do, then

637
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: you know, put your guys in position, I mean understanding you. Hope.

638
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: I hope. I hope they let the new offensivecording to

639
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: decide do what you're gonna do, because doing what you

640
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: do hasn't gotten you pass where you've been, so at

641
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: some point you gotta realize you gotta do something a

642
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: little different. I would think it's Darren Smith really die

643
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: good or has Robert Quinn lost a step a little

644
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: bit of both probably. I mean, like you know, we

645
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: had a whole argument and about it in the spring.

646
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: Derek thinks Robert Quinn is better than DeMarcus Lawrence and

647
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Speaker 1: I don't, um, yeah, I couldn't resist that. Yeah, I

648
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,719
Speaker 1: mean because you know, now that's the yeah, that's out there,

649
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: that's that's not but that is not what I said.

650
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. It's been it's been six years since

651
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: Robert Quinn was the nineteen sack guy. It's been a while,

652
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: so you know, he's he's not Marcus hasn't gotten to

653
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: nineteenth cent. True, he's not what he was, Okay, but

654
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: a lot of guys have looked bad at the hands

655
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: of Tyrn Smith exactly. I'm not, Yeah, I don't. I

656
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: don't think rather than Darrence is now though killer one

657
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: time so far, he's the Tyrn killer. I know. I

658
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: Tyron Smith is that good? If I had to answer

659
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: it scinctly, I would say that, you know, like what

660
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: we would say Olivier Vernon had had a couple of

661
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: good plays against them in that Dolphins game a few

662
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: years ago. It's like, oh, he can handle uh Tyron.

663
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: I mean Tyrn probably one ninety seven percent of those battles.

664
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Speaker 1: That's the point you're saying. But to my point, Quinn

665
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: has done a couple of those as well. So Quinn,

666
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: you know, and they're not gonna be all like Tyrn Smith.

667
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: So he could make three to four five impact plays

668
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: like that a game, with all and with all due

669
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: respect to Robert Quinn, Like you know, it's a big name,

670
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't go into this season expecting him to

671
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: be that that guy from twenty fourteen. You know, give

672
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: me a number. What do you think as far as

673
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: sacks realistic for for Robert Quinn this year? Realistic and great?

674
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Speaker 1: Anywhere between six and nine Okay, Like that's about where

675
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, And I mean if he hits double digits,

676
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: then I'll see y'all in Miami for the super Bowl

677
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: probably and assuming that tank's gonna be somewhere in that

678
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: ten to twelve range, yeah, well yeah, if they both

679
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: get to double digits, we're cooking with gas, that would

680
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: be pretty fantastic. And then throwing six for Drance Damn

681
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: from the leak, I'm gonna have seventy. It's gonna be

682
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: better than the twenty fifteen Broncos taco to get quiet,

683
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: like because you stopped laughing, all right? Beside the Super Bowl?

684
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: How should people measure Kellen Moore's first year as an OC?

685
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: How are oh, sorry, go ahead? Do better in the

686
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: red zone? You know, that's where it gets tough. That's

687
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: where things you can kind of do all these other things, um,

688
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: you know, with the offensive line and your speed or

689
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: receiver and all that, but it gets down in the

690
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: red zone. That's where you really got to be able

691
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: to scheme some things and figure out ways to beat

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Speaker 1: that defense. And if he can do that, I think

693
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: that that's one good thing of like, hey, you know

694
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: what their red zone efficiency is much better this year.

695
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Speaker 1: You know, that's that's one. I mean, if you're not

696
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: saying like big picture or super Bowl type stuff, if

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Speaker 1: you can get better in the red zone. I don't

698
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: want to oversimplify, but it really feels like you'd fix

699
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: most of this team's ales if you would. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, flirt with thirty points a game.

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00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: I don't even need you to hit it, but twenty

702
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Speaker 1: seven eight with this flirt with thirty points a game,

703
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: if you can reliably get to twenty seven or twenty eight,

704
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: you should win a lot of games. And that twenty

705
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: two they scored twenty two points per game. That's butt

706
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: in the NFL. That's so bad. You just get it

707
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: five or six points better. And all you have to

708
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: do to hit that goal, I think is be better

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Speaker 1: in the red zone. Yeah. Well, Blake jar the number

710
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: one at tight end at any point during the season,

711
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: not unless Jason Witten gets hurt, which he never has before,

712
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: at least not enough to take him out of the lineup.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go out on limits say yes, I just

714
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: gotta feel in that he's been looking good. He has

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00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,720
Speaker 1: looked really good. I think he's I think he's pretty

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Speaker 1: athletic for a tight end, and personally my own personal

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00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: believe just of what I've seen so far, I think

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00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: he's the best tight end you got right now. That's

719
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: just my opinion. Now, again, some of this, some of

720
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: this we're not seeing and we won't see until we

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00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: get into games with regards to how well he's blocking

722
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: and that kind of stuff. But I don't think that

723
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Speaker 1: at the point when Jason left the game, I don't

724
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: think he was as good a blocker as he once was.

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00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: So I don't I'm not certain that he's gonna be

726
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: when it's all setting down, I'm not sure he's going

727
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 1: to be your best option at tight end. I actually

728
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: thinks Blake's becoming your best tight end on this team,

729
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: and so I think at some point this year we

730
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: may see a little bit of the changing of the guard.

731
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: I still believe Jason Witten's gonna be your starter every

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Speaker 1: game at tight end. I just think there could be

733
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Speaker 1: game that we start to see where Blake's going to

734
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: be more involved and he's gonna get more opportunities, maybe

735
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: than Jason. I gotta watch it. I gotta watch it

736
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: happen with my own eyes and I want to see

737
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: him stop beating defensive backs and say in linebackers. I

738
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: mean it slowed down a lot in the last you know,

739
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: a couple of years, but he still gets open. He

740
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: could still get open and still make some plays. He

741
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: may went out here yesterday. No, no, there was an

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00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: outroute they complete. Witness there was there was an outroute

743
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 1: that they did complete. It was about ten fifteen years

744
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 1: yards down the field. He didn't have much separation, but

745
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: the ball was right on the money. He caught it

746
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: and it was on the other side of the field.

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00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,479
Speaker 1: Wasn't there one on one play where he definitely beat

748
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 1: the guy, but wasn't there Yeah, Jalen. Jalen punked him

749
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 1: in two minute drill though. It was pretty badass, like

750
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: he did his classic ate and turnaround and tried to

751
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: box Jalen out and Jan was just kind of reached

752
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: over his shoulder like going, no, you're not catching that yet.

753
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: He's so good. They got some big coverage linebacker. I

754
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: don't think he swiped because it was only second down,

755
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 1: but maybe after they got him off the field. But

756
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: that's also why I was so pleasantly surprised when the

757
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: same when he was up against Pollar and Polo just

758
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: ran right past because don't forget, Jalen can run like

759
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: for a linebacker, Jalen can run, and Polo just opened

760
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 1: up on him like I mean like he took off

761
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: down the field and it was just like he just separated.

762
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: But think about all the middle linebackers in the NFL,

763
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: and they all were run. He's number one, don't you think, Jalen? Yeah, probably, Yeah,

764
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: that's got Yeah, those Atlanta linebackers are pretty fare right.

765
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 1: But that's kind of to my point from earlier. If

766
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: if Kellen Moore's schemes can get Tony Pollard out here

767
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: and the linebacker goes with them, that's that's that's a problem,

768
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 1: and that won't happen very often. And what will happen

769
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 1: is is there'll be some changes. Safety will come out,

770
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: corner will come out, but that will change what they're

771
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: trying to do. But what you also have to remember is, Okay,

772
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 1: let's assume a safety or corner goes out. What happens

773
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 1: with the other responsibility that's safety or corner had before?

774
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: What did he have a mark? Even that Cooper? Okay,

775
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 1: we're saying, all right, good, perfect, They can't help themselves.

776
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: All right, go ahead, watch watch this? Yeah, go all right,

777
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: thank you. Um, do you guys expect to see a

778
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: major trade happening before the season starts? No? No No, no,

779
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: keep going. That's our game now. Okay, we've talked about

780
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: a woozy in the past. Um, has he met the expectations? Has?

781
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 1: And it is his arrow still heading north? How is

782
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: he looking so far? No? See, yes, it's pretty good. No,

783
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: he hasn't met expectations. Yes, his arrow's going up and

784
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: he's looking pretty good. What's the expectation? I mean, make

785
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl? I mean, I don't know. You're a

786
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: high second round pick. Second round picks are tricky with

787
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: the expectations. He said he's not a high second round pick.

788
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 1: Her he was late second round pick. That's right. And

789
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 1: I think his first year was not It was okay,

790
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: and then he came in at the end. He right

791
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: where I think is a reasonable expectation. I mean, he's

792
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: an every game starter, you know. I'm he'd be great

793
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: if he could get picks in a stadium other than

794
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: MetLife in a week other than seventeen. But I mean, yeah,

795
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: he looks good out here. I mean he hasn't he

796
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: hasn't looked bad, he hasn't been outstanding. He button solid.

797
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I kind of agree with you say,

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00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think he does by any means,

799
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: been under expectations for me. Like, I think he's right

800
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: where I would expect him to be. He's point based

801
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: on where he was drafted, and I've been a solid

802
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: player for him. It would be dope if he could

803
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: get better. But like, yeah, he's pretty He's about what

804
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: I expected him to be. I guess how much in

805
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore's movement based offense helped prepare the defense for

806
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: teams like the Rams. Good question, it's a good question.

807
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: You would hope a lot. Yeah, And you're seeing it

808
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,720
Speaker 1: a lot out here, like you really are. Just every

809
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: play Mary Cooper was talking about how much he likes

810
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: lining up in all the different spots. Him and Cobb

811
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: have both been moving in and out of the formation.

812
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: You see a lot of play action and real action

813
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,720
Speaker 1: in the backfield. So yeah, I mean they looked pretty

814
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: lost against the Rams in that playoff game, So if

815
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: they're seeing this stuff on a regular basis, I would

816
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 1: have to imagine it would help. Yeah, hopefully, and hopefully

817
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: just the experience. Again, this is the very young team,

818
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: the experience of going through that Rams game. Hopefully they

819
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: learned a lot about what they will be expecting when

820
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: they face teams like that because some of them and

821
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: maybe the first time they've ever seen that in the NFL.

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00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: That's why it's so important to get That's why they

823
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: drafted Tristan Hill. You know, Antoine Woods has got to

824
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: be strong there in the middle because the linebackers can

825
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: get all this, they can get the side to side,

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00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: they'll be fine with the speed, but as soon as

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00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: you start cheating that way, you gotta be able to

828
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,479
Speaker 1: not be gashed right up the middle. And I thought

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00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: that's what the Rams did and even the Colts. But

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00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: if the defensive tackles are better, stronger upfront, it's gonna

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00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: be it's gonna be a pretty good defense. Yep, I

832
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: think so too. All Right, let's take our final break.

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Speaker 1: We'll come back. We'll get some more questions and filtering

834
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: through all the questions we got again, thank you guys

835
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: for sending all those. We'll be right back this Dallas

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Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com Radio. Back to the break. Well player

837
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: could look good on paper, it's when he's out on

838
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: the field that you really find out what he's made of.

839
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: That's why the Cowboys rely on more than just stats

840
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: and scouting reports when building their team. When picking the tractor,

841
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: it's why you should rely on more than just specs

842
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: and features. You've got to take it out and put

843
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: it to the test. The Cowboys did when they name

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Speaker 1: are taking the field right now for the morning walkthrough.

886
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: They'll take place here for the next hour or so

887
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Speaker 1: hour and a half. We got Jason Garrett coming up

888
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: at noon. Lets you check that out, and then we

889
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: got practice at three thirty. So wish we'd been having

890
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 1: that Jaalen debate about five minutes later, so we could

891
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: have asked as Layton Vanner and asked Layton about it

892
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: while he runs through. It seemed like he was in

893
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 1: real chatty mode. No, you're right, that's Garrett's like one

894
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: minute guys, one minute. That would have been interesting to say, hey, day,

895
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: we need you for a second. Yeah, fifty five? Good

896
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: over here. All right, let's get back to some questions.

897
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: What do we have amber? All right? Is there any

898
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 1: position that you feel we'll have a drop off from

899
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: last year once the season gets started. I can probably

900
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 1: think of a few. All right, kicker jumps out to me.

901
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: Is that a drop off or is it about the same.

902
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: I don't know. He might not make the team. It

903
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 1: might be, it could be worse. I mean, as dicey

904
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 1: as it guy. At the end of the year. Brett

905
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 1: Maher also made like sixteen in a row from weeks

906
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: two to six or something like that. He made some

907
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: big kicks. That's that was the part that that frustrated

908
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: me about three game winners in the same season. I

909
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: think he would hit some big kicks and I'm talking

910
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: like distance, some big kicks, and then he missed once

911
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 1: that were just kind of like, what what what it's

912
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: been playing out right here? He'll bang it in from

913
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: He banged in a forty five yard or to win

914
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: the two minute periods it and he hit a forty

915
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 1: eight yard or during special teams drills, and then from

916
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: thirty five not so much. And we're gonna care about

917
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: what he did that you can care about you hitting her? Sorry,

918
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: I gave you a polite shove. He missed from thirty

919
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: five yesterday. That's terrifying to me. How about starting running back?

920
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: And I'm still not a believer that that's gonna be it?

921
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: Zekei boy, he's not missing miss that money yesterday? Have

922
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: less yards? Nick? When has Jerry not going a deal

923
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: done right? That's not what I said, And that's true.

924
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 1: That was an interesting statement. But I'm saying he won't

925
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: have this many yards. Here's where Here's why I'll maybe

926
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 1: we'll agree with that is you know I've already said

927
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 1: on the show. I'm a big believer that when running

928
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: backs miss training camp, good things don't happen. So maybe

929
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: maybe that's what happens. He's just not as good as

930
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: he would have been if he'd have been out here

931
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: conditioning the whole time with his team, even if he

932
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: doesn't play preseason, just the conditioning of working through with

933
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: his team, Like, maybe maybe that's the difference. I got

934
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: a good one for you, and I'm not trying to hate.

935
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think outside the box here but linebacker.

936
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Speaker 1: And the reason that I say that is because they're

937
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 1: twenty three and twenty four respectively. They were fantastic last season.

938
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 1: They're super athletic. But I always say this is like

939
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,280
Speaker 1: people expect it to be like Madden, where like every

940
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 1: offseason you gain a few attribute points. Players aren't necessarily

941
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: like that. Sometimes they plateau, sometimes they did. Sometimes injuries

942
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: set in. So I think Jalen and Layton will be fine,

943
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't be surprised if they had some growing pains,

944
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: both of them because Jalen is still a young, developing

945
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: player and Layton's only in his second season. I wouldn't

946
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 1: be surprised if Byron Jones doesn't make the Pro Bowl. Yeah,

947
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: so I could see him having a setbacks. As I

948
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: mean with the linebackers, though, I would be kind of

949
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: surprised if Jalen wasn't as good, if not better. I

950
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: would not be surprised with late because you see a

951
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: lot of times with guys. Yeah, second year is kind

952
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: of when they have that him Jalen would be. Yeah,

953
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 1: he Jalen's past that I think Jaylen's right now. I

954
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: expect Jalen started hitting his real stride as a as

955
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: the best of what he's gonna be. Third, fourth years

956
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: where you start to see that, and so I actually

957
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,919
Speaker 1: expect that Jalen's gonna have a phenomenal year. I could see.

958
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be shocked if laden it's a little bit down,

959
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:15,959
Speaker 1: not a lot, but a little bit down, just because

960
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: sometimes that happens. You see guys in the second year

961
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: kind of have a little dip. But yeah, overall, I

962
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: think they're still gonna be pretty freaking good. I'm not

963
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: worried about it, but yeah, I mean we've seen that

964
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: play out before with young players. Yeah, we've talked about

965
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 1: the secondary and making some plays out here. Are you

966
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,760
Speaker 1: expecting them to get better? I'll turnovers this year? Please.

967
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: We had this conversation seems like every training camp, because

968
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: every training camp the team is coming off a year

969
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: where nobody could get the ball. Yeah, they do not,

970
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 1: They just don't do it. You know, it's gonna help

971
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: that this year, even in fourteen when they had thirty

972
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: two takeaways like their leader was had four, you know

973
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 1: or sorry, what's gonna help the pass rusher? I think

974
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 1: Xavier Wood is gonna help. I think he's gonna I

975
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: really believe he's gonna have great years here. I think

976
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,959
Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna change what we've been saying about

977
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: the safety position forever, like since we since back in

978
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,240
Speaker 1: the you know, early two thousands when Woody was still

979
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: kind of doing this thing here. I think this year

980
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 1: he's gonna make some game changing place for this defense.

981
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: And I think they're gonna finally get that guy on

982
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: their back in who can actually get the ball and

983
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 1: turn it over and get it back for the offense

984
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: or score. I think Robert Quinn will be the guy

985
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 1: that makes the difference with turnovers. I think he'll provide

986
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: more pass rush from the other side, and I think

987
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: that will lead to Xavier Woods and those guys making

988
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: those plays. I'm a firm believer that pass rush is

989
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,879
Speaker 1: more important to that than coverage. No offense against those guys,

990
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: but it just helps so much, so I hope that's true.

991
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 1: Xavier Woods and Leyton vander Esch tied for the team

992
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: lead with two last year, and I mean it's been

993
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: six years I think since somebody had more than three

994
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: picks in a season, and I think when that happened,

995
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: it was Sean Lee in twenty thirteen. So oh what

996
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,760
Speaker 1: I would give for a Cowboys dB to just ball

997
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: hawk it and have like seven or eight or nine

998
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: picks in a year. But isn't that kind of the

999
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 1: indictment on the secondary for the last who knows how

1000
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: many years? Because yes, there have been years when they've

1001
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: had a really good pass rush and they've been able

1002
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: to get to the quarterback, and for whatever reason, they

1003
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: still aren't getting interceptions. So even with that being said,

1004
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,240
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think it starts up front,

1005
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 1: but for whatever reason, they're still not getting their hands

1006
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: on the ball and turn it over. Xavier Woods seems

1007
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: to have the instincts to maybe change that. Credit to

1008
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 1: Jeff Heath, the one. The best thing you can say

1009
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: about him is that he just knows how to be

1010
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,479
Speaker 1: around the ball. So he had to pick earlier this. Yeah,

1011
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: it was vintage Jeff Heath. It was just being in

1012
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: the right place at the right time and making the play.

1013
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: You gotta make it once it's presented to you too.

1014
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: I'm checking where Garrett is because this is a Grett question.

1015
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,439
Speaker 1: I don't worry about donor about he loves What would

1016
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: it take for Garrett to come back next year? Win

1017
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: the NFC Championship, the super Bowl, because clearly wouldn't go

1018
00:48:55,640 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: past then Lucy a divisional round again. I personally believe

1019
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: if he gets to the championship game and the team

1020
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: is playing well, you know, I think he's I think

1021
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: he's safe. I think that gets you say that like

1022
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: it's like this very easily. No no, no, no, I

1023
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: didn't mean to do that, because that's not been the

1024
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: easily attainable bowl around here. But the way she the

1025
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: way she said that, she kind of threw those two

1026
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 1: things out there, the championship game, super Bowl. I don't

1027
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 1: I don't think the Super Bowl is necessarily the standard

1028
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: to keep his job. I think if he gets to

1029
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: the championship game and they play well, they lose, I

1030
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: think he probably still keeps his job. But I think

1031
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: anything less than that, I have a hard time believing it.

1032
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's about I mean, Jerry said this

1033
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: earlier when in the in the opening press conference. It's

1034
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: about the field. It's about where he feels the team

1035
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,720
Speaker 1: is exactly. It's all about how it ends, right, Jerry

1036
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: answered it for you. He's like, I I'll basically I'll

1037
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 1: know it when I see it, Like I'll know whether

1038
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: I'm happy with the job that he did. Yeah, I mean,

1039
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: we can say we can put around on it. But

1040
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,720
Speaker 1: this team goes one and four and everyone's talking about

1041
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 1: maybe making him right there, you know, and you've had

1042
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: some injuries, maybe the you know, a quarterback, running key

1043
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: players are out all of a sudden, you kind of

1044
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: rally and you get to ten and six and you

1045
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: sneak into the playoffs and then win a game on

1046
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: the road and losing the divisional round. Again, I don't

1047
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 1: think you're looking at it and going all right, this

1048
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: is bad, you know. Or what if you go instead

1049
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: of ten and six, what if you go twelve and four,

1050
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 1: and you know, if you go twelve and four and

1051
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 1: losing the divisional round at home? I mean, I think

1052
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: there's a key difference this year though, because it's not

1053
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 1: about like Jerry Jones doesn't have to make the decision

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00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: to fire him. He just has to not present him

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Speaker 1: with a new contract. So it's a good point. It's

1056
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: a subtle difference, but I think it's a difference. Um

1057
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: So if they go twelve and four and lose their

1058
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 1: first game, I have a hard time believing here. Let

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00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: me ask you a a question is if you guys see

1060
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: a scenario. I know this is gonna be a little

1061
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: bit far fetched, but do you see a scenario we

1062
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: get to the end of this season. Boys are pretty successful, right,

1063
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 1: Let's say they get to the to the Super Bowl.

1064
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: Let's say they get to the championship game and Jason decides,

1065
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: you know, I don't really want to be here anymore.

1066
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 1: And Jason is the one that decides to leave and

1067
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,479
Speaker 1: go somewhere else, because that is nobody ever talks about

1068
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 1: that side of it. But that's the flip side of

1069
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: not signing a guy before you get to the end

1070
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: of his contract. Yeah, he's free to walk, and if

1071
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: he has another opportunity, could you guys see a scenario

1072
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: where he says, you know, I'm good, I want to

1073
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 1: go somewhere else in something. No, I don't know this

1074
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 1: rule you have to grant people a chance to go

1075
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,439
Speaker 1: interview for a head coaching position. If it's your head coach,

1076
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: it's the head coach. Uh. Yeah, I assume that's not

1077
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: the same, but I could be wrong. I don't know

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00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: how the rule is. Like, I'm the head coach of

1079
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: the team, I could go interview with this team to

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00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 1: be the head coach. It's because because if he's if

1081
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: he's if he's really successful, there may be other teams

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00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: out there that are willing to pay him more money

1083
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: than maybe Jerry's willing to pay him. Right, So he's

1084
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,879
Speaker 1: got he's got free. He's a free agent at that point, right.

1085
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: It sucks because Jason Garrett is such an impossible guy

1086
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: to know. Like I never covered parcels, but I imagine

1087
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: you kind of learned a lot about his personality away

1088
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 1: from the cameras and think he did. Yeah, Garrett is

1089
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 1: Garrett all the time. Like we get the same guy

1090
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: that you get more or less, you know, I know,

1091
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: like he's he was different on all or nothing. We

1092
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: don't get that guy. So, like, I don't really have

1093
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: a great grasp on what makes him tick. But I

1094
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: think he like he's so formed by those nineties Cowboys

1095
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 1: and being on those teams and the greatness of the

1096
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: Triplets and all that and the prestige of the Cowboys,

1097
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 1: and I just think that means a lot to him.

1098
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: But he did as a as a member of the

1099
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: New York Giants. That's because he, like all players make concessions.

1100
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 1: Get that. But I also think like he's from that

1101
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: part of the country. I think there's there are things

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00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:48,280
Speaker 1: that there are things that to me, nobody ever talks about.

1103
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: But when a coach becomes a free agent, I think

1104
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 1: that's part of why coaches. If you want the coach,

1105
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: he gets locked up the year before that, because if

1106
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: he has a really good year, you could find yourself

1107
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: in a bidding situation with other clubs that may want

1108
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: his services, and he has the ability to go and

1109
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: look around. That's tough because I like, he would probably

1110
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: love nothing better than to go to a team where

1111
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 1: they're just not really in the headlines ninety percent of

1112
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 1: the year other than winning and losing games, you know

1113
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: what I mean. But at the same time, I think

1114
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,280
Speaker 1: it's important to him, like the prestige of this franchise

1115
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: and what it would mean if yeah, because that helps,

1116
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: that helps your your overall profile as a as a

1117
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: public figure. Right. That would be pretty surprising to see

1118
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: any I mean any coach walk away from the biggest

1119
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: job in football, maybe even sports. I mean, it would

1120
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 1: just be very interesting to watch and see and it

1121
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: would be and it would be after one championship, and

1122
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: it would be very interesting to see just from the

1123
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: standpoint or how much money can he command and how

1124
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: much money is Jerry willing to pay if he has

1125
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: that really successful season, he's got to get there first.

1126
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: Exactly he does. But I'm just saying it could set

1127
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 1: up a pretty interesting offseason for us next year. I

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00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: just I am at like it's set every other year,

1129
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: every time they're successful. Like I'm already imagining a scenario

1130
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: where like Zeke's and I don't think this will happen,

1131
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 1: but I'm imagining like Zeke's holdout extends into the season

1132
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 1: and their mediocre up until the bye, and then Zeke

1133
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: comes back and they only go nine and seven, but

1134
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: it's because they didn't have Zeke, and then they make

1135
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and it's like, well, right, we got to

1136
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: bring him back because because this is the he has

1137
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 1: this reason why it wasn't better, because that's what we've

1138
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 1: seen for three or four years. So I wouldn't be

1139
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: surprised by anything. That's just my default attitude about the Cowboys.

1140
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: Nothing surprising. You can't because it'll happen, right, all right,

1141
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: I think we have time for one last one. You know,

1142
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 1: we we've heard these players talk about the Zeke situation

1143
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: and how they understand what he's going through. And you know,

1144
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:42,919
Speaker 1: business is business and all that, But do you think

1145
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: that if this goes into the season that he will

1146
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: start affecting the chemistry between him and his teammates as

1147
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: far as him not being here and not being part

1148
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 1: of it. I do. I think you saw it in Pittsburgh.

1149
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: I think you last year with Levan Bell. Yeah, when

1150
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: you're starting effect, now you're affecting what they do. They

1151
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 1: can say business is business, but something now if you're

1152
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: not winning games and you're not performing as well, and

1153
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: some of these guys have contracts as well, so now

1154
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 1: this business is affecting my business. Yeah, I think I

1155
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 1: think it's It would be hard not to, you know,

1156
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,919
Speaker 1: especially when you know that. You know that, I bet

1157
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: you Charles Haley Well, I would say Charles Haley woodn't

1158
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,399
Speaker 1: commenting much at training camp. Who knows what he was doing.

1159
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: But I guarantee when when they went when they went

1160
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: and two without Emmett, the defensive end now through his helmet,

1161
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: through the through the wall of training and the locker

1162
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 1: room is said, we can't win with an F and rookie.

1163
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 1: You know, So now you're affecting him. So yeah, I

1164
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 1: do think that you start losing games, and you lose

1165
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 1: with close games because you can't run the football. Yeah,

1166
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 1: I definitely think it'll be tough. I don't know if

1167
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: it would be as publicly obvious as it was in Pittsburgh.

1168
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 1: Like I have a hard time imagining Zeke's teammates pilfering

1169
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: his locker. Remember like when all like all those dudes

1170
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 1: went through Bell's locker like thanks for the cleats, bro.

1171
00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: I can't see that. But I mean, priv they'll be pissed.

1172
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: I promise you that. My question don't what I don't

1173
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,879
Speaker 1: think they are right now? I think, yeah, I don't.

1174
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 1: I do. Well, I'll just I do. I think I

1175
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 1: think there are some that are, you know, because super Bowl,

1176
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: super Bowl, super Bowl. Now you got to you got

1177
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 1: this guy that's not here, and you know, I mean

1178
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 1: you can make the argument that there's other guys that are.

1179
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: You know, the other players on this team are actually

1180
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: have more reasons to hold out than him, you know.

1181
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 1: But it's just so early though. I think they're just

1182
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: like us, where they're like, all right, like handle your stuff.

1183
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: We got a long way, so we need you anyway.

1184
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:41,240
Speaker 1: But the closer it gets, Dy's not there. I agree

1185
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: with you, guys, and I think I think everybody starts

1186
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 1: kind of looking around, like, man, when you come in,

1187
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: like this is game time, so it's not necessarily something

1188
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: you know, they keep talking about, Oh, you can just

1189
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: plug him in at any time and it'll be fine,

1190
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: I think. But as far as everything else, you know,

1191
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,720
Speaker 1: it's not as easy as it sounds. When you start

1192
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: talking about relationships and the chemistry between the team and

1193
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: all that it affects and it translates onto the field,

1194
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 1: I think. I think the point is that if he

1195
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 1: gets to game one and he's not here, like yeah,

1196
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 1: if he shows up the week of game one and

1197
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: he gets plugged right in, I don't think anybody thinks

1198
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: twice about it. If they play that week one and

1199
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: he's not here and they happen to lose, I think

1200
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:25,919
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a lot of people that's looking around, like, dude,

1201
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:29,479
Speaker 1: where's our running back? But what's the problems to Jerry?

1202
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: And and by the way, yeah, I think I think

1203
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: there are there are fingers that then start pointing to Boat,

1204
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: they start pointing to Zeke and it here, and they're

1205
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 1: like y'all need to figure this out. Is this ain't good.

1206
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: This is not good for us, Like you say, it's

1207
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: affecting my business. Now, y'all need to figure this out.

1208
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: Nobody's bottom line is being affected by Zeke not being

1209
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: here other than his own. But that will change in

1210
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: a in a hurry. Yeah, all right, We appreciate you

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Speaker 1: guys joining us. We are back to Actually, I'm sorry,

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00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 1: we're back on Monday. We got the Blue Wight Scrimmage

1213
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,959
Speaker 1: coming up on Sunday afternoon. It'll be three thirty pm

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00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 1: Pacific time. That's five thirty for you guys back in

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Speaker 1: the Dallas area. And then on Monday we'll be back

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00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: on the air. We'll tell you all about what we

1217
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 1: saw during the Blue Light scrimmage and uh and and

1218
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 1: give you our best opinions, our best analysis on this

1219
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 1: team going forward for Nick even, Dave Helmet, Ambergarcia. I'm

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