1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,439 Speaker 1: Hi, can everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth Podcast. The Hi My Name Is edition, 3 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: because we take a look that the two players selected 4 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: by the Bengals on Day two of the draft, Plums 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: and wide receiver T Higgins and Wyoming linebacker Logan Wilson. 6 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 1: You'll learn about them from two people that know them well. 7 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: And then Dave Lapham joins me to discuss those picks 8 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: and look ahead to the final four round to the 9 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: draft on Saturday. 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They've bounced around 17 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: to hundreds of locations all over the country, between the 18 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: commissioner's basement and the homes of players, coaches, and gms, 19 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: and they've done it all with very few glitches. I 20 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: learned very quickly in my days as a TV sports 21 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: anchor that it is truly a team effort and everybody 22 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: involved in putting on the coverage of this draft has 23 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: done an incredible job. Now let's get to the newest Bengals. 24 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: With the first pick in the second round, the Bengals 25 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: chose six foot four inch two hundred and fifteen pound 26 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: Clemson wide receiver T Higgins, who left school after his 27 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: junior year and had a first round grade on the 28 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: Bengals board. He had twenty seven career touchdown catches to 29 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: tie for the most in school history with Tigers legends 30 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins and Sammy Watkins. And here's the first thing 31 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: that T said when he did a zoom call with 32 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: Cincinnati area reporters, quote in just getting the call from 33 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: my favorite team in the NFL, It's just surreal. Yep. 34 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: Higgins is a Bengals fan because his favorite player is 35 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: a j Green. To learn more about T Higgins, I 36 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: spoke to the radio voice of the Clemson Tigers, Don Munson. 37 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: First and foremost, they're getting a young man who is 38 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,839 Speaker 1: going to do a lot for the franchise there. He's 39 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: not going to be a problem off the field. He 40 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: is very coachable. He likes to go and work. He's 41 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: not afraid of going out there and work, and he's 42 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: not afraid of going out there and earning, you know, 43 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: his spot on the field. You know, he's he will 44 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: step on the practice field once we get going again 45 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: here and he'll go out there and try to compete 46 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: for a starting job. And I think that he's a 47 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: guy that that can win it. Now. I think he 48 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: needs to pick up a little bit more strength, to 49 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: be real honest with you, Dan, I think that that's 50 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: you know, when you draft a kid that's that hasn't 51 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: gone through four years of school, and I think that 52 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: you know, you're drafting a little bit of a younger guy. 53 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,399 Speaker 1: So people need to I think understand that a little bit. 54 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: That he still has some maturing to do as far 55 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: as his body is concerned. But man, I'm telling you 56 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: two three years from now, I think that te Higgins 57 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: is going to be just an all world kind of player. 58 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: We had the opportunity to visit with him on a 59 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 1: zoom type conference a few minutes ago. The kids got 60 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,399 Speaker 1: a megawatt smile. He seemed like he had a very 61 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:27,839 Speaker 1: engaging personality. What was he like with his teammates. Oh, 62 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: he was like that from the time that he set 63 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: foot here on the on the Clemson campus. I mean 64 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: that was that's just who he is. And you know 65 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: that that was the other thing was to watch his 66 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: leadership ability grows as he went along here in his 67 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: Clemson career. You know, there there are certain kids that 68 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: you can just tell from the moment they sit on 69 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: step foot on campus that they're going to be an 70 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: impact in their group and then also in the locker room. 71 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: And and T was certainly able to do all of that. 72 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: We are visiting with the voice of the Clemson Tigers, 73 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: Don Munson. T did not knock it out of the 74 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: park in his pre draft testing. Does he play faster 75 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: than he ran? Yeah, I believe that that he does. 76 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: I mean if he's a very good route runner. You know, 77 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: you don't see that that often with guys that are 78 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: big wide receivers. And that's what you're getting obviously. You know, 79 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: he's got size to him, he's got length, he's um, 80 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: he's got you know, really good hands that I think 81 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: that the basketball side of him also comes. You know, 82 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: he was a he was an all star basketball player 83 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: in high school and coach Sweeney and coach Scott at 84 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: the time when he was here as wide receivers coach. 85 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: They love those kind of guys, guys that are multiple 86 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: sport athletes. And he is a guy that you know, 87 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: he competes at high points for the ball, not afraid 88 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: to go out there and mix it up. Um. So 89 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: you know, I think you look at all those variables, 90 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: and you know, I think that if you're if you're 91 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: a Bengals fan right now, you got a smile on 92 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: your face. Yeah, and I do. I can tell you 93 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: that I believe he has an eighty one inch wingspan. 94 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: Catch radius, I guess is the hot phrase these days 95 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: when it comes to wide receivers and tight ends, and 96 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: it looks like that's one of his biggest strengths. And 97 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: he's a guy also yards after catch dan, I mean, 98 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: he's he's a guy when you go back and you 99 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: really watch what he did on film, you know a 100 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: lot of times he may be catching something that's only 101 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: six eight yards down the field, but then he's able 102 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: to shed tacklers and then go get extra yards. And 103 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,239 Speaker 1: he's got enough speed where he can take at the distance. 104 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: I mean, he really can. So those are things that 105 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: T is just going to continue to improve upon. Again, 106 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: is he gets more physically mature than that part of 107 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: his game, I think grows even more so. I don't 108 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 1: know if this ever came up in one of your 109 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: conversations with T, but he is apparently an AJ Green 110 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 1: fanatic and a Cincinnati Bengals fan. Yeah, he was a 111 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: huge Bengals fan growing up as a kid, Bengals or 112 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: his favorite as his favorite team as well. You know, 113 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: he grew up right outside of Knoxville, so you can 114 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: kind of understand that that you know, really not that 115 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: far and probably in that market, got got some Bengals games, 116 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 1: and also you know, go back to the days when 117 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 1: the Bengals were successful. That's that's kind of in his 118 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: youth era. So you know he's he's used to, you know, 119 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: seeing some of those things. So, um, you know all 120 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: of that. I think, you know, Bodswell, whenever you draft 121 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: a guy that all of a sudden that that was 122 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: their favorite team as well, I think there's there's a 123 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: little bit more from that fellow to go into the 124 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: franchise and say, Okay, I'm you know, I'm not scared 125 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: to be here. I'm not I'm not upset that you 126 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: drafted me. I'm actually enthused that you drafted me. And 127 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: you know, anytime that you can get that, then man, 128 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: you lay hold of that and you run with it. 129 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 1: One more topic for Clemson broadcaster Don Munson. You called 130 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: the National Championship game last year. Unfortunately that one didn't 131 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: turn out well for the Tigers, largely because of Joe Burrow. 132 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: Share with us what the Clemson coaches were talking about 133 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: as they studied him going into the game, and then 134 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 1: your impressions of what Joe did in that National Championship game. Well, 135 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: i mean the talk of Joe Burrow going into the 136 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 1: game certainly was one was his accuracy and two was 137 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: a way that he extended plays. And then those two 138 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: actually actually melded to be perfect because he would extend 139 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: plays and he would still make throws where he was 140 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: you know, dropping the ball into a bucket. Well, we 141 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: saw that obviously against Clemson there and they're in New Orleans. 142 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: I mean, he came out and just absolutely put on 143 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: a show. Things did not go well for him, you know, 144 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: first fifteen, seventeen, eighteen minutes of the game, but he 145 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: was able to shake all of that stuff off, and 146 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: you know, that's that's something that you know as a 147 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: as a quarterback, you love, I mean just absolutely love. 148 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: We saw some of that from our own quarterback. Obviously 149 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: in the semifinal game against Ohio State. Things weren't going 150 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: Clemson's way and still Trevor Lawrence stayed right in it. Well, 151 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: that's what that's what Joe Burrow did. And then you 152 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: know the way they came out and finished off the 153 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: second quarter, particularly scoring that that touchdown right before the 154 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: end of the first half, and that was a little 155 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: bit of a dagger that they were able to throw 156 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: at Clemson. A lot of that was because of Joe 157 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: Burrow and just the confidence that he had in that game. 158 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: He's this is a guy with a lot of swag. 159 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: He has a lot of confidence when he steps on 160 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: the field. I don't think that there's many throws that 161 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: he does not feel like that he can make. I 162 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: think he's got a better arm. Probably the most people 163 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: expect h you know, for being the number one overall 164 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: pick of the draft. He's he's got to come and 165 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,719 Speaker 1: perform because it is a game of performance. But I 166 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: fully expect Joe Burrow to do exactly that. Burrow to 167 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: Higgins could be interesting. Yes, I am. I'm looking forward 168 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: to to that, to that combination. I think that that's 169 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 1: going to go very very well. You know, as long 170 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: as everybody can stay healthy, then those things will go 171 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: very very well for the Cincinnati Bengals. Don thanks for 172 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: hopping on the phone on short notice. I appreciate the 173 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: time absolutely, and good luck to all the Bengals fans up. 174 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: There'll be a lot of fun and watching you. I'll 175 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 1: play here in the coming year. Te Higgins was ranked 176 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: twenty fifth overall on the Pro Football Focus Draft board, 177 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: and they wrote that he is probably the most complete 178 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: big receiver to come into the NFL in some time. 179 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: In the third round, the Bengals addressed their most pressing 180 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: need by selecting linebacker Logan Wilson from Wyoming, a six 181 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: to two hundred and fifty pounder who was a one 182 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: hundred ninety five pound defensive back in high school. He 183 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 1: was a four year starter and a three time captain 184 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: at Wyoming who was not only a tackling machine for 185 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, but finished with ten career interceptions. To learn 186 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: more about Logan Wilson, I spoke to Wyoming's radio color 187 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: commentator Kevin McKinney. Well, number one, we're really thrilled for him. Dan. 188 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: He's a great, great guy. Of course, he's a Woming native, 189 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: highest draft pick for a Woming nat ever to play 190 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 1: for Wyoming. So that's a piece of news in itself. 191 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: Came one as a walk on from Casper, and you 192 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: know it just worked so hard to make himself what 193 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: he is. He's wounding through and through. In fact, the 194 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: team calls him the governor and a very popular guy. 195 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: Of course, a team captain and all those things that 196 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: are intangible. But on the field, he is number one. 197 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: He can run, he's about two forty and he can fly. 198 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: That was a sideline, the sideline guy that we were 199 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: always impressed by, and I think from the very beginning 200 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: it was his speed that caught everybody's attention. He worked 201 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: hard to get himself to the size he is, but 202 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: he could always run, and obviously that was a big 203 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: attribute for him through his career. We're visiting with Woming 204 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: broadcaster Kevin McKinney. The Bengals saw him at the Senior Bowl. 205 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: Cincinnati coached the South team and Logan played for the 206 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 1: North team and the observation that we've heard is that 207 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: he was all business while he was there, immobile. Is 208 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 1: that a good description of his personality? It totally is. 209 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: He Uh, he comes to play, He's always ready to play, 210 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: and if you're not playing at his level, he's not 211 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 1: happy with you. So he's one of those guys that 212 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: just motivates everybody and he raises your level of play. 213 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: And I think that's always impressive for a guy. But 214 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 1: he's uh, he's kind of a quiet guy, but uh 215 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: just really does such a great job of leading by example. 216 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: Looking at his career statistics, I see ten interceptions. What 217 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: does that say about his ability and pass coverage? Well, 218 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: I think Dan number one. He's a great student of 219 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: the game, and so nobody was any more prepared to 220 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: take the field than Logan, and so he always seemed 221 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: to be in the right place at the right time, 222 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: you know, that coach on the field type thing. And 223 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 1: a lot of it really was his experience. I mean, 224 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: he played four years and he told me one day, 225 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: he says, sometimes I feel like I know what's going 226 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: to happen before it happens, and that's just because I've 227 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: played a lot and have been around so he has 228 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: seen a lot of football and studying as he does 229 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: and being prepared as he is. He always seemed to 230 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 1: be in the right place fifty two consecutive starts, which 231 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: speaks to his durability. Did he play through a lot 232 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: of stuff? Is he one of those guys that just 233 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: no matter what bumps and bruises he might have had, 234 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 1: he wouldn't come off the field. Yeah, And that's exactly 235 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: what it was Dan. He had. He didn't have any 236 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: major injuries knock on wood. He was very fortunate there. 237 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: But you know he had a hand injury and he 238 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: at this injury and he had that injury, but nothing serious. Um, 239 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 1: you know, he's he's very sturdy, but he is durable. 240 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 1: He would not miss a start. He would play no 241 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: matter why. I think he played with a brace on 242 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: his hand in a couple of games. But um, you know, 243 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: he wasn't gonna he wasn't gonna come out of the lineup, 244 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 1: that's for sure. And and just a great team leader 245 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: because of that, Because of that kind of mentality. First 246 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: picking the third round, what was your anticipation for where 247 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: he might go, not in terms of team, but where 248 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: in the draft he might go. Going in. Well, I 249 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: think we honestly felt Dan that he would be a 250 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: third round guy, maybe late second round if things fell right, 251 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: But we were gonna be I think a little bit 252 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: disappointed if he didn't go in in the third round, 253 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: and uh, you know it was. It was one of 254 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: those deals that got it out of the way right away, 255 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 1: and I think that was good for him. You can 256 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: enjoy the evening, but we felt like from what we 257 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 1: had heard and from what teams were saying, that he 258 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: would be a high third round pick. The Governor is 259 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: coming to Cincinnati and we're excited about it. Kevin, I 260 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: appreciate the information. Thanks your time, you bet, Dan my pleasure, 261 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: and we're gonna be Bengal fans in Wyoming. Now. Now 262 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: time for a Day two recap and we'll look ahead 263 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: to the final day of the draft with my broadcast 264 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: partner Dave lapham Lap. When we spoke last night after 265 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: the first round of the draft, I asked you for 266 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: your prediction for the Bengals at the top of round 267 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: two and your answer was the top wide receiver on 268 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: their board. Well, we learned who that was a little 269 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: bit after seven pm. Clemson's t Haggins a long time 270 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals fan, AJ Green fanatic, and a guy with 271 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: an AJ Green physique, six four long arms, good leaping ability, 272 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: and obvious lee. Somebody that the Bengals hope to pair 273 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: with Joe Burrow for a long time. Yeah, and I 274 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: think he's the type of guy that's likes to utilize 275 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: the middle of the football field. You know, they raved 276 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: about the coaches raved about it as did. He kind 277 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: of not brag about it, but listed it as one 278 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: of his strengths as his toughness and ability to catch 279 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: the football sacrifice his body over the middle of the 280 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: football field. You know, he's one of He averaged over 281 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: eighteen yards per per reception. He's only twenty one years 282 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: old as well, So I mean, here's another guy that 283 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: from a culture standpoint in in the free agency, every 284 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: single player they signed, all eight players came from playoff programs, 285 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: playoff teams. So this kid, he's been in the College 286 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: Football Championship Series every year, playing for national championships at Clemson, 287 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: so he's he knows what it's supposed to look like. 288 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: And I think they're looking for him to have some 289 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: energy and in stet a temple for the receiver physician, 290 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: even though he's on the younger end of things. I mean, 291 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: he seems to be a very competitive guy, and uh, 292 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: you know, he plays for championships, so he plays for keeps. 293 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with that. Bring as many of those guys 294 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: into the culture of the locker room as you possibly can. 295 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: The kids got a mega watt smile. I don't know 296 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: who his dentist is, but he's done a wonderful job, 297 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: but a very engaging personality, much like Joe Burrow. Last night, 298 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: I thought he showed himself extremely well in his zoom 299 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: call with Cincinnati area reporters. I agree with you, Dan, 300 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: And it's interesting that you know, Aj Green is the 301 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: guy that that he kind of has looked up to 302 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: and became a Bengal fan because of Aj Green. AJ 303 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: Green was the number one basketball player in the state 304 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: of South Carolina, and this young man, he Higgins, was 305 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: an accomplished basketball player as well, and his junior year 306 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: he decided to special and just football and gave up 307 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: the basketball dreams and hopes he had some basketball opportunities. 308 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 1: I mean, it was probably a tough decision for him 309 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: to make. So there's a commonality there, you know, of 310 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: the athleticism, and um, I'm a g I think I 311 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: think a J. Green ish. I think he's definitely faster, 312 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: um but you know, as AJ ages, maybe not a 313 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: whole lot faster. But I do think that everybody, everybody 314 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 1: in the wide receiver corps has got their niche John 315 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: Royers unhealthy take the top off the T Higgins can 316 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: work the middle of the football field. AJ Green can 317 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,239 Speaker 1: do everything. You can line him up anywhere and let 318 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: him do anything. And I think the thing they liked 319 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: about te Higgins is he's got some position versatility as well, 320 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: um Donald Clemson. They felt that they could line him 321 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: up anywhere and try and strive to find the best 322 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,479 Speaker 1: match out that he wasn't limited. You know, it's just 323 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: the split end position only, or the flank position only, 324 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: or the slot received for position only. So having as 325 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 1: many guys you possibly can being able to line up 326 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: anywhere puts a lot of pressure on defenses and in 327 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: trying to match up properly. So T Higgins did not 328 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: knock it out of the park when it came to 329 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: testing in the run up to the draft, ran a 330 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: four or five four forty at the combine, just a 331 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: thirty one inch vertical leap. His one point six six 332 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: ten yards split was especially poor. Now, apparently he was 333 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: dealing with a groin issue at the time, so that 334 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: may have influenced those numbers. It probably did. But then 335 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: I look at his career statistics average twenty yards. It 336 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: catches a freshman sixteen yards. It catches a sophomore twenty 337 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: yards to catch as a junior, So his big playability 338 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,959 Speaker 1: was there even though his testing numbers were a bit 339 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: of a head scratcher. Yeah, he's he's got a big 340 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: catch radius, you though. He's he's a big kid, tall, 341 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: excellent hands, probably too good size hands, and any presents 342 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: himself as a you know, as a viable target for sure. 343 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 1: He's I think he's going to find that, um, you know, 344 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 1: contested catch is going to be a big deal and 345 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: for him, and I think he'll probably win his share 346 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: of those. So it's it's gonna be interesting to see how, 347 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,959 Speaker 1: in fact, everybody's roll of balls because the wide receiver position, 348 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: I guess. You know, you draft a guy like Joe 349 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: Burrow with the first pick in the draft, the first 350 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: thing you want to do is give him as many weapons, 351 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 1: as many opportunities as possible. I don't know. Maybe the 352 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: way that you know they spread the football field down 353 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: there at LSU, maybe the Bengals should um see if 354 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: they can get a rule change in the NFL and 355 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: allow the Canadian Football League and twelve players use as 356 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: many receivers as possible and spread the stield even more. Uh, 357 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: you know, I do think that that's Joe Borrow strength, 358 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: you know, is uh just you know, spread it out 359 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: and just rip you apart, and as many many quality 360 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: people as you can't get that done, I mean, act 361 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 1: this is John Ross top ten pick, AJ Green top 362 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: five pick. Now T Higgins first round draft choice, basically 363 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: first pick of the second round. So you know it's 364 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: they've they've got they've got some talent. You know, you 365 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: get tylert Boyd second round pick, not just high it 366 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: second round pick as T Higgins, but you've got you 367 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 1: got some pretty darn good, pretty darn good talent going there. 368 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: And the wide receivers kept flying off the board in 369 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: the second round of the draft. T Higgins first pick 370 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: of the second round, Michael Pittman out of USC second 371 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 1: pick of the second round, then in order, Leviscus Channault, 372 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: kJ Hammler, Chase Claypool, Van Jefferson, and eventually, close to 373 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: the end of the second round, Denzel Mims, a player 374 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: that had frequently been mocked draft, is a possibility to 375 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: the Bengals at the top of round two. Well, and 376 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: you look at him, U he led the country with 377 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: twenty contested catches. He had the best three cone times 378 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: six point six six of any wide receiver. So obviously 379 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 1: you can go up and fight for the contested ball, 380 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 1: the fifty fifty ball, and you know he can change direction, 381 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: sink his hips, get in and out of cuts with 382 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: that three cone drill. So I mean, he tested extremely well. 383 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: And he's a good size, good sized guy as well. 384 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: So honestly, I think too. That's why you know, a 385 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of general managers and scouts around 386 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: the league would say with the wide receiver position, you 387 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: may get the same guy at sixty four as you 388 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: got at thirty two. There's very little difference between those 389 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: guys because it's so deep wide receiver position. I mean, 390 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 1: six were taken in the first round and at least 391 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: the HACO doesn't hear it sounds like in the second round, 392 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: and you know, I know there's at least forty that 393 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: people feel are going to be draftable. In thirty three 394 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: of those forty may go in the first four rounds 395 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: to the draft, So it's only just one. Yeah, it 396 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: was seven in the second round. To be specific, Why 397 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: do you think Josh Jones and Zach Bond were not 398 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: taken in the first two rounds. I think Josh Jones 399 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 1: um his length of his arms, it's it's not proportionate 400 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: to his to his body. I mean, he's a he's 401 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: a big man. He's six six sixty seven, three hundred 402 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: and ten pounds, thirty thirty two and eighth inch arm. 403 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: So I think people thought Jee might have to play 404 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 1: him at guard, you know, I don't know. I don't know. 405 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: That's That's something that Billy Price is struggling with a 406 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: little bit, I think is the arm length. And in 407 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: the NFL you can lock arms out. And if somebody's 408 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 1: got a thirty two and eighth innch arm and then 409 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: the other guy's a thirty five inch arm, he's getting 410 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: to the back cannle leaver your shoulder pad pretty durn quickly. 411 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: And if you bend over trying to lengthen your candle 412 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: lever a little bit more by leaning, so worsting him 413 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: do it now you're exposing in your shoulders. So I 414 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,719 Speaker 1: think I think he probably you know, he did get 415 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 1: drafted in the second round, but a lot of people, 416 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: almost every Monk drafts had him as a first round guy. 417 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: But he went, you know, in the back third of 418 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: the second round. And I think it was probably because 419 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: of the length of his arms, because everything else. When 420 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: I watched him at the senior ball, I mean, he 421 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 1: had good feet from himself in great position to block, 422 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: but it wasn't noticeable. You know, I'm not saying it 423 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: was t routs noticeable, but it was you know, he 424 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: did he did definitely have short arms. He went to 425 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 1: the in the third round. Josh Jones, Okay, third round, yeap, 426 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: about the eighth pick of the third round of the Cardinals. 427 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 1: So he lasted until the third. Yeah, I think that 428 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: was to me, that's gotta be. The biggest thing is 429 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: that arm length. I think people are a little apprehensive 430 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: about because the rest of his game, you know, I 431 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: thought it was pretty good. One more thought on t 432 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: Higgins before we turned to the Bengals third round draft pick. 433 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: The Bengals have drafted seven wide receivers in their history 434 00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: in the second round. Ready for this list, Yeah, Tyler Boyd, 435 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: Jerome Simpson, Chad Johnson, Darnay Scott, Carl Pickens, Chris Collinsworth. Honestly, 436 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: around the league, teams seem to put their bat on 437 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 1: the ball a little bit better in the second and 438 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: third round in a lot of positions than the first 439 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 1: round for another reason. I don't know exactly why, but 440 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: and it really really doesn't seem like it, honestly. I 441 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 1: mean a lot of Bill Belichick trades out of the 442 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: first round whenever he can. I mean a lot of 443 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: people around the league think that rubber hits the road second, third, 444 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 1: and fourth round of the second round draft, and they 445 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: try to load up as much as they possibly can 446 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: with multiple second, third and fourth round picks, almost unilaterally. 447 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: It's crazy. So I think, now, you know, with with 448 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: tonight's action ending here second and third round, you're you're 449 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 1: in the meet and heart of the draft, and you 450 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 1: know tomorrow's important fourth round, fifth round as well, and 451 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: then you know, then the odds I think changed dramatically. 452 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: But it is remarkable. They've had a heck of a 453 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: run and uh, you know, look at the running backs. 454 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: They could Corey Dillon and Joe Mixon the last two 455 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 1: number twenty eights, both second rounders, you know, and there's 456 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: reasons for that, you know, it's it's not a lot 457 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: of it's not physical. A lot of it can be 458 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: you know, intangibles or problems or troubles that guys had 459 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: in various way shapes or formed. But telling you, the 460 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 1: Bengals have put their bat on the ball in the 461 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: second round regularly. Let's hope that te Higgins is another 462 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: one that they hit out of the park. Let's turn 463 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: to the Bengals third round draft pick, linebacker Logan Wilson 464 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: out of Wyoming. When we did our podcast prior to 465 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: the draft, you mentioned him as at least a possibility 466 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: to be taken by the Bengals at the top of 467 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: the second round to fill that critical linebacker need and 468 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 1: they need a stack backer and Logan Wilson kind of 469 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: fit that. You know, Zach Bond went shortly after Logan 470 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: Wilson did in the draft. But Zach Bond is more 471 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: of a you know, outside linebacker round in the line 472 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 1: of scrimmags, you know, rush guy from you know, he 473 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: was number two in the in the Big ten in 474 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 1: terms of sacks and taker for loss too, and a 475 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: guy that went number two in the draft. So I mean, 476 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,199 Speaker 1: obviously he's got some ability. But you know, Locan Wilson 477 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 1: is an off the line of scrimmage stack linebacker and 478 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: I think he can play three downs in that area. 479 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: And it's because he started out as one hundred and 480 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:29,959 Speaker 1: ninety five pound wide receiver defensive back that understands, you know, 481 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: route concepts and reading the quarterback's eyes. And his ball 482 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: skills are good as a result of that. Ten interceptions, 483 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 1: you know, reading and reacting to what he sees out 484 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: in the football field. A couple of them he took 485 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: back to the house pick sixes. So I think I 486 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: think that the guy that you know goes at one 487 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety five pounds and now he's between two 488 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: forty five and two fifty and was there for five 489 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 1: years with the Retchard. He's twenty three years old, you know, 490 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: so both the first and the third round pick for 491 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals. There are not kids, you know, they're 492 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: they're twenty three years old. They've they've they've seen a 493 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: little bit, played a lot of football. Um, So I 494 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: think I think it's a it's a tremendous pick. It 495 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: went down to the Senior Bowl and I did notice 496 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: this kid, and I just noticed. I mean when I 497 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: don't know what you're feeling, is when I when I 498 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: met when I saw him down there, shook his hand, 499 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: looked at him, and I said, this is a Norman 500 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: Rockwell portrait of a linebacker with the square job. He 501 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 1: reminded me of Brian Bosworth. And looking at him tonight, 502 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: you know again, I'm like teeth that guy. He kind 503 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: of looks a little bit like bos you know, or 504 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: he looks like cho and laukee Field. He's one of 505 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 1: these square jobs, you know. He definitely he definitely looks 506 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: the part. And uh he's he's really worked hard, changed 507 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 1: his body obviously tremendously and he's, um. I think he's 508 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: going to surprise a lot of people. I think when 509 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 1: all of a sudden done, when a year or two 510 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: down the road and you reflect back and you say, 511 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: oh boy, how how have they doing this draft? What 512 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 1: picks panned out? I have a feeling this kid's going 513 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: to pan out, and he's going to pan out a 514 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: big time. Just watching really hitting his business down at 515 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. He wasn't down there to have fun. 516 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: He wasn't down there messing out with people trying to 517 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: make friends. He was early, never, never even worrying about 518 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: trying to be their own time. He was, you know, 519 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: his watch was ten minutes early all the time, and 520 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: he was he was very very serious about the whole thing. 521 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 1: He realized the importance of it, and he was going 522 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: to take full advantage of it. And I really I 523 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: admired the way he carried himself down there, and I 524 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: asked him about that, and he said, you know, that's 525 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,239 Speaker 1: just it, just the way I do it. You know, 526 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: it wasn't any different than way I carried myself at Wyoming. 527 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: And it was interesting too, he said. The biggest honor 528 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: he received in his football career so far as being 529 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: elected a three time captain. That's that is pretty impressive, 530 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: you know, a bunch of different players. Um was a 531 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: three year time frame. I'm just gonna be some some 532 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: coming and going amongst your teammates and to continue to 533 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: lect you to that that type of position and speaks 534 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: volumes to what you are. He has certainly seen a 535 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: lot on the football field. Fifty two consecutive starts, three 536 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: thousand six hundred and eighteen defensive snaps in his college career. 537 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: That's a lot of football. First time All Americans since 538 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety seven, first time they've had an All Americans 539 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: since then at one moment. A tackling machine, you know, 540 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: over four hundred career tackles. He's a you know, he'll 541 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: come downhill, he'll he'll go sideline to sideline when you 542 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: watch him. You want linebackers to impact the game. You 543 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: want there to be a contact ratio that is that 544 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: is you know, a big plus, and his is and 545 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: you know it's not just okay, first and second down, 546 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: maybe just first down, only the second and long. He 547 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: hank that guy out of the game. That's all he 548 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: can do is come down hill and smoke the run. 549 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: This guy's a three down guy, you know, and he's 550 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: obviously like we talked about earlier with is, why did 551 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: you see your defensive back skill set? Let's stay on 552 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: the football field and play. He'll probably be nickel the 553 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: din backers he'll be he'll be a whole thing. Um. 554 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: You know, Nick Vigil was killing that role and then 555 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: it's open. Now it's charger. So this guy, I think 556 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: he's going to play a lot of football right away. 557 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: And you know, if he doesn't play as enough football 558 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: as anticipated, Darren Simmons is gonna love to have him 559 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: on special teams. But I don't think he's gonna be 560 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: able to play many special teams if he's done the 561 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: football field for lou and UMU. Three staffs, three downs, 562 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: every single series of the season. All right, let's look ahead, 563 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: final work day of the draft coming up on Saturday 564 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: beginning at noon. What spots are the Bengals likely to address? 565 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: And do you anticipate a trade down to begin the 566 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: fourth round since teams will again reorganize their board at 567 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: the end of the night. And see, guys, boy, we'd 568 00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: love to have him. I mean, the Bengals have been 569 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: trading up in recent years at this point, is this 570 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: the year they trade down? Well? You know, za Zach 571 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: has he said to end today's pressor that the draft 572 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: has worked out perfectly because they had the first pick 573 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: of the draft obviously, and they knew what they were 574 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: going to do there with Joe Brow. The second pick 575 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: of the draft was basically like a late first round pick. 576 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: It's like when the first round ended. Okay, who was 577 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: the who was the guy that said, who's the guy 578 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: on your board that gave the most value? Te Higgins Boom. 579 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: Now I know that that they got phone calls and 580 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: they initiated phone calls. I mean they were proactive, not 581 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: just reactive. And honestly, you know, if the Bengals had 582 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: five guys, they felt comfortable with a thirty three. So 583 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: did a lot of other people. And it's probably like, 584 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: why should I move up to give you draft capital 585 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: for somebody that you know, I can wait to sit 586 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: tight here and I've got one of five options. I 587 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: feel good about two. And you know, everybody's board is different, Dan. 588 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: You know people will say, oh, they just list of 589 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: best players. The best players are always influenced by your 590 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: need if you have if you have a needed offensive tackle, 591 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: your seventeenth player on your board is going to be 592 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: an offensive tackle instead of a cornerback that other people 593 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: who have a needed cornerback on their board, they're gonna 594 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: have that cornerback at number seventeen. So I mean it's 595 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: kind of a you know, let's let's be honest. There's 596 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: always need, and it's the needs the tiebreaker. So there's 597 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: not any board in the NFL that is similar that 598 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: it is identical to two teams. You know, just don't 599 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: have twin boards anywhere for that, for the reason of need, 600 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: and for the reason of difference in scheme and uh 601 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: and what type of players need to execute those schemes. 602 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: So um, you know it's the draft fell perfectly in 603 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: terms of Zach saying, you know, having that first pick, 604 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: we had Wilson, uh, you know, greater than the high 605 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: high in the second round. We got them with the 606 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: first pick in the third round. Had team rated as 607 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: a first round wide receiver, gonna with the first pick 608 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: of the second round. So that's the advantage of having 609 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,959 Speaker 1: that first pick of every round because you get first DIBs. 610 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: When you take a look at your board and somebody, 611 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: whoever it is on your board, that's a boy. What 612 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: is he still doing there? If you can't work out 613 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: a trade, if nobody's going to give you anything of 614 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: enough value, just pluck it, you know, And in so 615 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: far it's working out for him. The other thing that 616 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: was encouraging with the selection of Wilson is dividends for 617 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl already paying off. I mean, we talked 618 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: about the fact that a great year to be involved 619 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: with the Senior Bowl, Detroit coaching staff in the Bengals 620 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: coaching staff, and with the sixty fifth pick in the draft, 621 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: that's you know, that's pretty early in the draft. It 622 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: was the time spent at the Senior Bowl that turned 623 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: the tide on Logan Wilson, not just the tape, but 624 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: having meetings with them and spending time with them during 625 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: the course of the week. So the Senior Bowl already 626 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: paid and I think the Senior Bowl is going to 627 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: pay dividends and may be every single pick from this 628 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: point on. I mean, I could see the Senior Bowl 629 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: being a factor if the Bengals decide they want to 630 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: go linebacker again. To me, a team, a Gaither Davis 631 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: is the is a guy that you know, he's every 632 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: bit worthy of a fourth round pick, Davis Gaither. Davis 633 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: gaitheror a Keen Davis Gaither. Yeah, from Appalachia, steady six 634 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: to two, can really run. His dad's a wide receiver 635 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 1: coach at Western Michigan. So he's a you know, he's 636 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: a football lifer. He's a will linebacker, you know, on 637 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 1: the line of Scrimmons kind of guy. Special teams guy. 638 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,240 Speaker 1: I know the Bengals are very impressed with his learning ability, 639 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,760 Speaker 1: how he absorbed things, how he could retain and recite 640 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: it back, and um felt like, uh, you know, he 641 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: was he was a leader amongst teammates. He wasn't a 642 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: follower during the course of the week, so they liked 643 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: a lot of things about him. If he's there, you know, 644 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 1: I think for a fourth round? Is it Richard? Fifth round? 645 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: But that's another senior Bowl guy that you say, well, 646 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: you know, and that that could pay some dividends. Logan Stenberg. 647 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: You know an offensive lineman from Kentucky, Ben Bartch, This 648 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 1: kid from Saint John's. He just located his kneecap. I 649 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: don't know what his physical status is. Obviously with the 650 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: coronavirus problems, you don't even get a chance to have 651 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 1: your doctor's put your hands on him and take a 652 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: look at MRIs and all that things. So I mean, 653 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 1: he may be, uh, you know, he may be in 654 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: limbo at this point in time. But you know, some 655 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 1: of the offensive lineman that I think the Bengals are 656 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 1: going to be contemplating, not just the ones that they coach, 657 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: the ones that they that they played against as well. 658 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: You know, I think, you know, I think the reason 659 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 1: that Josh Jones. They saw Josh Jones, they saw him 660 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 1: up close and personal, and maybe they didn't like what 661 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: they saw with in terms of the length of his arms. 662 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: And so you know, it's it's good. I think the 663 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl is going to pay serious dividends to this 664 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,959 Speaker 1: football team down the stretch and almost every round left. 665 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: Last thing, the fact that they did not take an 666 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 1: offensive lineman in the second or third round suggests that 667 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: they feel better about that group than others. Is do 668 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: you think that's fair to say? I think it is. 669 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: I do think that you know that they've they've they 670 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: addressed it with uh, with free agency a little bit. 671 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: You know, even last year, um taking picking up Fred Johnson. Um. 672 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: You know when from the Pittsburgh Steelers off off the 673 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: wave wire and Fred Johnson he made himself some money. 674 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 1: I mean he went out there and he played his 675 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 1: tail off down the stretch of the season and uh 676 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 1: and you know, really really put himself in position to to, uh, 677 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 1: you know, have some success in the league. You know, 678 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: there's there's no question about it. You know, I think 679 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: that at this point in time, you just let him 680 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: go compete. He and Bobby Hard I think you're you know, 681 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 1: it's like, okay, who who's the best man? And I 682 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: do think they'll they'll draft somebody. I still think they'll 683 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: they'll draft to tackle at some point in time. Jonah 684 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: Williams will be lining up with you know, Isaiah Prince 685 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 1: probably behind him. Bobby Harden will be lining up with 686 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: Fred Johnson behind him. Zaia Sua Flow will be starting, 687 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: you know, lining up as a starter right guard, but 688 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: Alex Redmond will be pushing them. And you know, Michael 689 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,919 Speaker 1: Jordan will probably line up as a starter left guard. 690 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: But Alex Redmond, you know, is a factor at the 691 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: guard position. Trey Hopkins graded out the best of all 692 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: the centers. UH. Now it's an interesting dynamic, Dan. Overall, 693 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 1: there's there's three pots or three you know doors to 694 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 1: the personnel. Uh. With respect to this football team, there's 695 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:52,879 Speaker 1: the injured veterans returning, Jonah Williams, um Drew sample. They 696 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: lost a lot of Drew sample's time, you know, to 697 00:37:55,680 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: to injury uh from John Ross once again, Jay Green 698 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,359 Speaker 1: didn't take a snap, you know, Jonah Williams didn't take 699 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 1: a snap. So you have these injured players that are 700 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: going to be returning to the mix. Then you have 701 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:14,439 Speaker 1: your your free agents, you know, Xavier Sua flow like 702 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 1: like we said, Trey Wayne's McKenzie, Alexander von Bell, Josh Bines, 703 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: DJ Reader. I mean a lot of these guys that 704 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 1: are projected starters. Drew Sample throwing that injury mix as well. 705 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: They lost him, you know, early, pretty early in the season. 706 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 1: And then the draft Joe Burrow, you know, to start 707 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 1: starter at quarterback, te Higgins, depending on what kind of 708 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: a package you have, he could be a starting wide 709 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,760 Speaker 1: receiver out there and taking the looks right here at Wilson, 710 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 1: you know, he's going to be a three down linebacker. 711 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 1: And I'm very important for this defensive football team. So 712 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:51,320 Speaker 1: then there they're overhauling this bad boy. It's going to 713 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 1: be more than half of the starting lineup that started 714 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 1: that started the season last year, never mind finished the season. 715 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 1: It's going to be flipped over. There's going to be 716 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 1: a lot of new look to this football team next season. 717 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:09,919 Speaker 1: I think Round four starts in about five minutes, more 718 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: like twelve hours, but we look forward to it and 719 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: we will talk again after the draft is finished. Sounds 720 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 1: like a plan, sir. Get a good night's sleep, you two. 721 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,840 Speaker 1: That's going to do it for this episode of the 722 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 1: Bengals Booth Podcast, brought to you by Prime Sport, the 723 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: official fan, travel and hospitality partner of the Cincinnati Bengals. 724 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 1: If you haven't done so already, please subscribe, and if 725 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 1: you have a minute, give it a rating or share 726 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 1: a comment that helps more Bengals fans find this podcast. 727 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,720 Speaker 1: I'm Dan Horde, and thanks for listening to The Bengals 728 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:43,919 Speaker 1: Booth Podcast.