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Speaker 1: Hello, I'm Scott So, I'm Evan Novie Williams. Oh my,

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Speaker 1: did you hear who's back? Now? I have been And

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Speaker 1: I'm Michael Barr. And this is the Bloomberg Business of

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Speaker 1: Sports podcast, where we all once again, Yes, we explore

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Speaker 1: the big money issues in the world of sports. Nice

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Speaker 1: to have the team altogether again. How was your trip?

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Speaker 1: It was good? Yeah, very relaxing. Always tough to get

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Speaker 1: back to New York City after a week in the woods,

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Speaker 1: but no complaints. I saw more people on my plane

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Speaker 1: than I did for the seven days I think before.

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Speaker 1: It was the most manly thing you did. Oh there

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Speaker 1: was an eight foot bonfire we buried at pound pork

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Speaker 1: roast for for four hours, next next to our fire.

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Speaker 1: That's a big fire. Yeah, that's fine. I hope the

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Speaker 1: park Rangers aren't listening to that. You are a regular

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Speaker 1: year Will Gibbons. Uh. Let's start first topic, the baseball

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Speaker 1: jersey patch. The success of the National Basketball Association's decision

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Speaker 1: to allow for jersey branding, which brings in an average

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Speaker 1: of about seven million dollars a year per team, has

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Speaker 1: reportedly created considerable interest for MLB franchises to follow. Sup.

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Speaker 1: You don't say, as David Stern said in private years ago,

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Speaker 1: it had nothing to do. And I think I've said

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Speaker 1: this before, with this being such special territory and ground,

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Speaker 1: and they, oh, you have to respect the uniform and

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Speaker 1: the pristine nature. When there was enough money, he'll do it.

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Speaker 1: When there's enough money. Guess what, there's enough money. That's

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Speaker 1: that's what's going on. And eighty one games or eighty

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Speaker 1: two games in basketball, hundred and sixty two in baseball.

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Speaker 1: So there's more exposure, and particularly in places where uh,

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Speaker 1: certain teams are very popular, Dodgers, Yankees, you could see

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Speaker 1: some real money coming from some Asian companies. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think it's fair to say that. You know, the leagues

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Speaker 1: And I wouldn't be shocked if in five years we

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Speaker 1: amazing in sports marketing, we're so far ahead in the

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Speaker 1: like sports betting and jersey branding were so far behind. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean the reason for for a stute baseball fans

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Speaker 1: for the games internationally, and part of their reasoning is that,

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Speaker 1: as you said, Scott, internationally in in baseball, it's common

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Speaker 1: But yeah, the double the amount of regular season games

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Speaker 1: is helpful. You know. Baseball is also a more static sport.

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Speaker 1: You can imagine, you know, if it's on Aaron Judge's

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Speaker 1: that sleeve patch, if they put it on the sleeve

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Speaker 1: remember when Decki met So he played for the Yankees

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Speaker 1: of the Komatsu sign more than they could ever have

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Speaker 1: And I think Evan hit on the head guy like

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Speaker 1: So one question I do have in the NBA, correct

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Speaker 1: You know, Um, I wouldn't be shocked if the Yankees

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Speaker 1: you know among those teams that you know have a tradition,

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Speaker 1: Evan does this story every year. It's sort of been

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Speaker 1: the finances of the NFL, especially since they gave up

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Speaker 1: So the Packers, you know, they had four hundred and

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Speaker 1: so every team gets that equally. Two eight point eight

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Speaker 1: So do the math are just on the national shared money?

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Speaker 1: It's this is the this is the extent of of

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Speaker 1: You know, there's a there's a meeting in green Bay

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Speaker 1: And what you just said is that, Okay, you can

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Speaker 1: it wasn't the thirty five million they turned last year. Um,

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Speaker 1: That six that eight point eight billion dollar share number.

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