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Speaker 1: What's happened to everybody?

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Speaker 2: Welcome to a Friday edition of Texans All Access from

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Speaker 2: on the Texans Radio studio. John Harris your host for

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Speaker 2: a beautiful, beautiful evening. Hopefully you've gotten out today or

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Speaker 2: you're going out tonight and experiencing.

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Speaker 1: Why you moved to Houston. This weather is gorgeous.

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Speaker 2: A little later in the show, we will have the

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Speaker 2: gorgeous man himself, Indy Klue a little Texans OG's with

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Speaker 2: Anthony Hill. Looking forward to that, but kicking off the show,

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Speaker 2: it's the gorgeous voice of one Mark vandermir Good evening, Mark,

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Speaker 2: how are you yeah?

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Speaker 3: Better off heard and not seen? Johnny? That's how I

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Speaker 3: position it, That's how I promote myself. And yeah, anddy

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Speaker 3: is he's the gorgeous man. He'll have Andre Johnson on

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Speaker 3: Texans OG's next week, so waits for that to drop.

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Speaker 3: That's gonna be awesome to get his reaction to all

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Speaker 3: these signings. I want to hear what he has to

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Speaker 3: say about Diggs and maybe he peaked at the new uniforms.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure, but those are coming out soon enough

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Speaker 3: Draft week, so let's get fired up.

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Speaker 1: You know the one thing that I don't want to.

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Speaker 3: Talk about uniform that's uniforms, so pickers uniforms.

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Speaker 1: Wait whatever it well, and is the roof open?

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Speaker 4: Is the roof roof open? Yeah, it's the roof open.

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Speaker 3: Closed today, by the way, just saw it closed.

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Speaker 1: It was closed. It didn't matter today.

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Speaker 2: Texans weren't playing today, but uh yeah they they were

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Speaker 2: laying down a field in the bowl and that was

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Speaker 2: kind of nice to see, just see.

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Speaker 1: The green grass in there.

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Speaker 2: Start thinking about the twenty twenty four season already being

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Speaker 2: at a Friday and a lot of things have happened.

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Speaker 2: I thought, why not have a sizzle fire Friday? So

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Speaker 2: if you know how this goes, I hit Mark with

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Speaker 2: a maybe a hot take, maybe a completely cold take.

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Speaker 2: Mark's gonna rank and rate what hot take I give

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Speaker 2: to him and then explain why he feels that way.

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Speaker 2: So I have just a blank statement, and Mark's gonna

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Speaker 2: say five sizzle fires. That is, it's the hottest take possible.

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Speaker 2: No way, just totally crazy. Once there's a fire, it's

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Speaker 2: totally true, and that's the way it's going to go.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of an Oxi moron here because the hot take,

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Speaker 3: the hotter the take, the more outlandish, right is. Some

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Speaker 3: people don't get that. I'm just trying to explain it

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Speaker 3: for the listening audience so they can enjoy the bit.

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, okay, So here we go. So I've got

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Speaker 2: seven of them right now. Then there'll probably be another

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Speaker 2: one that'll pop up as we go through. Okay, number one,

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Speaker 2: the Texans have the best wide receiver wide receiver trio

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Speaker 2: in the NFL right now with Tank Dell, Nico Collins,

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Speaker 2: and Stefan Diggs.

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Speaker 3: Ooh, that's uh, you know, that's not as hot as

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Speaker 3: you might think. I'd give a two and three quarter

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Speaker 3: sizzle five.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, all right.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I'll throttle back on that because it's certainly one

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Speaker 3: of them, and those who don't know is it the

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Speaker 3: morning guys? Gosh, I get confused listening to all the shows.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes it's just later confusion because I'm trying to remember

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Speaker 3: where I heard it. But they were quoting somebody else

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Speaker 3: saying they weren't even talking about Tank Dell. They didn't

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Speaker 3: mention Tank Dell. Oh no, maybe that was a last

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Speaker 3: year thing, because anybody who knows anything has to mention

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Speaker 3: Tank Dell with this receiver group. I mean, how could

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Speaker 3: you not write. But I think with this trio receivers,

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Speaker 3: the top three guys, as you would project to say

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Speaker 3: they're the best trio in the NFL cannot be that

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Speaker 3: much of a stretch. When you have a thirteen hundred

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Speaker 3: yard guy a Nico, you have an eleven hundred plus

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Speaker 3: yard guy, a guy who had one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 3: seven catches or whatever it was. Was it one hundred

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Speaker 3: and twenty seven, one hundred and seven per days, hundred seven?

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Speaker 3: It was twenty seven more than Nico Nico at eighty. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it couldn't been one hundred and twenty seven, but Diggs

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Speaker 3: twenty year. Anyway, it's not that much of a stretch

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Speaker 3: to say that. I don't know if they're ready to

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Speaker 3: nine ers perhaps, but the forty nine ers pass catching

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Speaker 3: group has to include Kittle and McCaffrey, and we can

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Speaker 3: go there with mixin and show, but you weren't going there.

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Speaker 3: You were saying receivers. So I'm gonna say two in

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Speaker 3: three quarter sizzle fires.

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Speaker 2: I like that Now. CBS Sports did an article yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I don't know who wrote this. They did the top

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Speaker 2: twelve Garrett Odell going on. He came up with the

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Speaker 2: top twelve wide receiver trios in the NFL. Number one Texans,

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Speaker 2: Number two Dolphins, Tyreek, Jalen, Braxton, Barrios.

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Speaker 4: It's a stretch.

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Speaker 2: Number three Bengals Jamar, Chase t Higgins, Trenton Irwin. Irwin's

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Speaker 2: very sneaky. I mean he may plays against us and

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Speaker 2: he makes a lot of plays in games. Forty nine

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Speaker 2: ers or fourth with au Deebo and Jwant Jennings. I

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Speaker 2: think Dwant Jennings is completely underrated. Number five now, I

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Speaker 2: think this one could rise a little bit. They get

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Speaker 2: more out of Devonte Parker. The Eagles, AJ Brown, DeVante Smith,

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Speaker 2: Devonte Parker.

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Speaker 4: That's huge.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: How about this Number six the Bears DJ Moore, Key

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Speaker 4: Now that's a stretch. Little makes it a stretch.

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Speaker 2: It's a stretch. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers could be a

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Speaker 2: good one coming up. Evans Godwin, Trey Palmer. Seahawks are

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Speaker 2: eight Metcalf Lockett, Jackson Smith and Jig.

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Speaker 1: But I would have thought that would have been a

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Speaker 2: I mean, Metcalf had sixty six catches eleven hundred yards,

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Speaker 2: eight touchdowns. Lockett had nearly eighty for eight ninety four

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Speaker 1: I mean that's been higher.

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Speaker 2: Vikings, Jefferson, Addison, Shirtfeld, Ten Cup Nkua at well with

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Speaker 2: the Rams, number eleven the Cowboys Cee Lambrain and Cooks,

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Speaker 2: is probably. That's probably pretty good. That's probably we were

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Speaker 3: When we were on with McLean last night, I wanted

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Speaker 3: to bring up the Titans trio because Burkes makes it

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Speaker 3: interesting if Burgs can rise to the level that they

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Speaker 3: wanted when they drafted him, right, But he hasn't quite

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Speaker 3: done that yet, has he? So they're not there yet.

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Speaker 3: I think with healthy people, the Texans can lay that claim.

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Speaker 3: And I didn't give it that many sizzle fires. I

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Speaker 3: give it a few because it just feels really sort

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Speaker 3: of beautifully uncomfortable to say. I mean, I'm to say

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Speaker 3: that if people called it super Bowl contenders, I'm thinking, okay,

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Speaker 3: I guess we are. You have to look at it

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Speaker 3: that way because look, look around you. Who else is

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Speaker 3: a super Bowl contender? And you have to feel like

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Speaker 3: they fit in well with the group.

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Speaker 2: So it is all of my guys, Chad Hastings and

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Speaker 2: Jeff Ketchum on their House Divided show on Orange Bloods yesterday,

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Speaker 2: and so a few of the listeners were chiming in

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Speaker 2: and you know, saying that you know about you know,

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Speaker 2: Texans being a super Bowl contender, they shouldn't be in

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Speaker 2: the same sentence.

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Speaker 1: That's a joke. Blah blah blah. You know. They were

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Speaker 1: like Chad and Jeff your guest, you know, he's just blowing.

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Speaker 2: Up the Texans. And I said, hey, look, the one

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Speaker 2: thing you're never hear from me. Never, You'll never hear

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Speaker 2: from me the Texans are a Super Bowl contender.

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Speaker 1: Never.

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Speaker 2: I will never you know, bang my chest in the

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Speaker 2: off season and go hey, this Texas are Super Bowl contender.

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Speaker 2: Now Week five, they're four to zero and they're going

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Speaker 2: to a big game. They win that big game, I

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Speaker 2: might say, yeah, this might be something we you think about.

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Speaker 2: I will never sit there and tell you there's a

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl contender.

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Speaker 1: How do we know? How do we know? Last year?

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Speaker 2: The now, I thought we were better than thirty first

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Speaker 2: in the power rankings, but where a lot of people

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Speaker 2: thought we were gonna be. So I'll never tell you that.

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Speaker 2: There are a lot of people talking about it, and

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Speaker 2: it is really interesting. Okay, number two on a sizzle

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Speaker 2: Fire Friday, staying with the receiver theme, No Texans receiver

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Speaker 2: will have more than eighty five catches in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: All right, So Nico had eighty last year and it

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Speaker 3: was his best season by far. It was a monster

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Speaker 3: season and great yards per catch. We know that Diggs

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Speaker 1: He had one hundred when I say one hundred and eight, So.

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Speaker 3: You're thinking they spread the ball around, nobody blows up

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Speaker 3: more than eighty five. I'm gonna says, so full this

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Speaker 3: is not more likely to happen or something like that. Uh,

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Speaker 3: this is sizzle fires. I'll say that. Uh that's about three,

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Speaker 3: maybe a shade under three two point nine sizzle fires.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's I was kind of thinking it was like three.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of right, it's kind of right in the

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Speaker 1: And again I.

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Speaker 2: Should have said no Texas pass catcher, but you brought

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Speaker 2: it up earlier, mixing Schultz. You've got to factor them in.

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Speaker 2: You gotta factor bread in. You know, those guys are gonna,

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Speaker 2: you know, get a number of catches. So could you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely So.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think three is probably right in the middle

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Speaker 2: because I think the initial reaction is, oh, no, somebody's

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Speaker 2: going over eighty five. Somebody's going over eighty five. In

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Speaker 2: a way, Mark, I don't know that I want somebody.

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Speaker 1: To go over eighty five, yeah, because then.

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Speaker 2: That probably means you're chucking the ball and you're hiding

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Speaker 2: games when you don't need to be. So I kind

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Speaker 2: of don't want anybody to be over eighty five. But

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Speaker 2: if they're all kind of in that range.

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Speaker 1: I think I'd be really really happy with that for sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. It's not gonna be about volume of catches. It's

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Speaker 3: about big plays, scoring plays, spreading the ball around, and remember,

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Speaker 3: wanting to run the football better. Well once Devin Singletary

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Speaker 3: got in there. But they want to run it even better,

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Speaker 3: I would think, and we'll talk to Bobby about this,

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Speaker 3: But the proof is going to be when they take

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Speaker 3: the field and you see what the game plans actually are.

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Speaker 3: They've got so much higher power.

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Speaker 2: Okay, go on, Okay, So I was two point nine

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Speaker 2: sizzle fires number three. However, there will be two Texans

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Speaker 2: pass catchers with ten touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: Or more each.

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Speaker 2: As a frame of reference, Diggs had eight last year

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Speaker 2: in Buffalo and Nico had eight. Tank had seven and

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Speaker 2: Tank only played I think twelve games, and I can't remember.

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Speaker 1: I think Dall nuts six.

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Speaker 2: There will be two pass catchers with ten touchdown catches

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Speaker 2: or more each.

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Speaker 3: That's four and a half sizzle fires right there. Wow,

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Speaker 3: based on what you just said, Look, CJ. Stroud's gonna

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Speaker 3: spread the ball around.

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Speaker 4: True, you have more two guys.

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Speaker 3: With more than ten tds a piece. You've probably had

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Speaker 1: Never had ten, yep, never had ten. Okay, number four.

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Speaker 2: After the acquisitions of Calvin Ridley and Luxurious Sneed, amongst others,

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Speaker 2: the Tennessee Titans are now the scariest opponent in the

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Speaker 3: Fires five maximum sizzle fire volume. There is no chance

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Speaker 3: You have Will Levis at quarterback. Let's just stop right there.

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Speaker 3: Will Levis is your quarterback? Is Will Levice going to

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: No chance, No, Derrick Henry. You have Pollard running the football,

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Speaker 1: Here's the other thing that stands in the way.

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Speaker 2: These five men, Nicholas Petite Ferrera, Peter Skroonsky, Lloyd Cushionberry,

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Speaker 2: You're putting in rookies that are gonna face Danil Hunter,

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Speaker 2: no Dank Autribana team anymore. There's no diaziz al Shire.

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Speaker 2: that's gonna happen with that team. On defense, there's no

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Speaker 2: Take Bayer out of there. You know, look, Amani Hooker's fine.

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Speaker 2: They're trying to make Elijah Molden his safety and he

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Speaker 2: And I mean, linebacker wise, don't even get me started.

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Speaker 2: they didn't get Kenith Murray. But Keith Murray was not

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Speaker 2: great with the Chargers and the Chargers needed linebackers, so

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Speaker 1: So that should tell you something.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that's celebrating.

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Speaker 3: I'm celebrating with Tennessee losing Derrick Henry. I know that.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they have not.

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Speaker 3: Had winny seasons the last two years, but it's not

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Speaker 3: Henry's fault. Do not blame Derrick Henry for their misfortunes

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Speaker 3: on defense, On the inability to throw the ball effectively

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Speaker 3: despite the fact that everybody's swarming on Derrick Henry and

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Speaker 3: he's still averaging over four yards per carry. They should

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Speaker 3: have done better with what they had. They didn't.

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Speaker 2: Okay, which team would it be that would reduce the

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Speaker 1: Would it be the Colts for the Jaguars?

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Speaker 3: I think the Colts. I think the Colts scarier than

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Speaker 3: Jags and I don't think that they're gonna be good.

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Speaker 3: the Colts are scarier because they came from quote out

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Speaker 3: Basically with Anthony Richardson's X factor and high ceiling, you

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Speaker 3: They've got great guys up front on defense. This could

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Speaker 3: be a very frightening team if we're sitting here next year,

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Speaker 3: the Texans are a wild card and the Colts won

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Speaker 1: I agree with you absolutely. I would say Colts as well. Okay,

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Speaker 1: next one again, rate the Sizzle Fires for this hot take.

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Speaker 2: The Texans will draft defensive tackle and defensive tackle in

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Speaker 2: the second round of the NFL Draft. They will double

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Speaker 2: up on the big guys on Friday Night at the

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Speaker 2: draft party. Rate the Sizzle Fires Mark four.

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Speaker 3: Point three Sizzle Fires. Oh, not gonna happen. They're not

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Speaker 3: going back to back dtackle. It's not gonna happen. It's

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Speaker 3: never has it ever happened at one position? Yes, it

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Speaker 3: has with offensive line top of the third round at.

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Speaker 1: Oh six, yep, Charles Spencer, ic Winston Yep.

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Speaker 3: I could probably come up with another time or two

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Speaker 3: say Nick goes DT at forty two. Now we'm sitting

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Speaker 3: we said, the likelihood of him sticking at forty two

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Speaker 3: fifty percent that Nick Assario stays in those spots. He's

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Speaker 3: got the trigger finger on trades and he's gonna pull it.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna make a move, and it's not going to

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Speaker 3: be for a defensive tackle, not for a second defensive

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Speaker 3: some other position group player is going to come along

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Speaker 1: Four point three.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let me see if I can lower the sizzle

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Speaker 1: All right, that being said, at a minimum, the.

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Speaker 3: That's a one sizzle fire because I could see a

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Speaker 3: But as we say this, look at them draft a

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Speaker 3: We know that Nick is different. You have to study

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Speaker 2: After yesterday's news and you know, not really going to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it gets kind of complicated.

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Speaker 2: We start doing it on radio with Stefan Diggs and

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Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs is in Houston for this year and guaranteed

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Speaker 2: So I'm just gonna ask you this question.

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Speaker 4: Mark.

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Speaker 1: I'll lead you into it.

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Speaker 2: I have thought even after the Stefan Diggs trade, I

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Speaker 2: still felt like, you know what, yeah, maybe the priority

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Speaker 2: yesterday's news, I kind of felt like, you know what,

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Speaker 2: I'm not ruling receiver out, especially in a draft that

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Speaker 1: Of those picks.

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Speaker 2: I just had this inkling that when you have this

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Speaker 2: How many games did Jay Travis Kelce play as a rookie.

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Speaker 1: In Kansas City?

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Speaker 2: Tell me half he played, half a game, missed the

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Speaker 2: Especially when you've got a group that's this good, you

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Speaker 1: It would be.

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Speaker 3: It would be somebody who's really great who dropped for

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Speaker 1: Or an elite trait.

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Speaker 2: Your guy runs, you know, he's a big dude, or

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Speaker 1: But there's a rate.

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Speaker 3: I'm still gonna be surprised if that happens. I know

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Speaker 3: but you're still gonna have Dell next year.

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Speaker 4: You still gonna understand next year.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he's sitting here this part of the off season

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Speaker 3: maybe resigned Diggs.

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Speaker 2: We'll see, Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Maybe it's a running back.

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Speaker 2: Would you feel better if I said running back?

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Speaker 3: I think running back is certainly a possibility. It has

438
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Speaker 3: to be again, it has to be the right guy.

439
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Speaker 3: Of course you could say that about all the picks,

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Speaker 3: you know, player that's going to fit, But I wouldn't

441
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Speaker 3: be surprised. They need running backs period. We've talked about this.

442
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Speaker 3: The running back room needs fortification. They need undrafted free

443
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Speaker 3: agents or drafted players or veterans. They need players in

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Speaker 3: that running backs room. And we've seen it in Campbell.

445
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Speaker 3: You're loaded at running back or as far as volume goes,

446
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Speaker 3: and then three days later, three guys get hurt and

447
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Speaker 3: all of a sudden you're running the full back and

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Speaker 3: as a one in practice.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right. That's a great point.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you mentioned his name a little earlier. So I'm

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Speaker 2: in a hallway today in a big old smile in

452
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Speaker 2: his face, and I can well imagine why general manager

453
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Speaker 2: executive vice president football ops Nick Serio and the Texans

454
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Speaker 2: will make at least six trades on draft weekend. As

455
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Speaker 2: a reference point, last year he made eight trades.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so this is very low, sizzel fire. In fact,

457
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Speaker 3: I think six is a pretty good number. If I

458
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Speaker 3: were here in Vegas. You know, we're at one of

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Speaker 3: the one of the books. What should we put the

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Speaker 3: number of Cassario trades at I feel like six is good.

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Speaker 3: If you went under that, you can definitely go over.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you go over that.

463
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Speaker 3: You're thinking, is it really going to be that many

464
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Speaker 3: this year? So I think six is a good number.

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Speaker 3: So low sizzil fire count one one sizzle fire.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: All off season last year, including pre draft trades for

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Speaker 2: Shaq Mason, trading away Brandon Cooks.

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Speaker 1: I think in there, I think that was two plus eight.

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Speaker 1: He made ten trades.

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Speaker 2: I think my favorite, my favorite trade that he made was,

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously the Will Anderson trade.

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Speaker 1: I mean, could you yeah.

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Speaker 2: But the the Texans traded for Shack Mason and they

475
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Speaker 2: traded to the Buccaneers a six round pick and they

476
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Speaker 2: all got a seventh round pick back, so they got

477
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Speaker 2: Shaq Mason and they got a seventh round pick back. Well,

478
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Speaker 2: that pick ended up being traded to Buffalo so that

479
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Speaker 2: the Texans could go get Xavier Hutchinson and the pick

480
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Speaker 2: that was used was that sixth round pick or whatever

481
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Speaker 2: the Texans got in that deal. The Buffalo Bills then

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Speaker 2: selected with that pick Nick Broker, who they then waived

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Speaker 2: at the end of trading camp, who then became a

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Speaker 2: Houston Texan. So you follow all that yeah, and that's

485
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Speaker 2: that's the kind of footbart All these trades is like tracking, like,

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Speaker 2: oh my gosh, what happened here?

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Speaker 1: How these trades go? Man?

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Speaker 2: The Packers made a deal last year where they were

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Speaker 2: sitting at number forty five. They traded down to number

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Speaker 2: fifty in two different deals, got him down at number fifty,

491
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Speaker 2: banded up with Jaden Reid, Dondavian.

492
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Speaker 1: Wicks, Carl Brooks five spots.

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Speaker 2: They got three bona fide players last year's rookies, so

494
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Speaker 2: that was the Packers.

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Speaker 1: Nick obviously was able to do eight trades. I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: I felt like I was not mailing it in on

497
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Speaker 2: that last one. I was trying to come up with

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Speaker 2: the number.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: The number I put first was four, and then I went,

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Speaker 2: wait a second, that number was a lot higher last year,

502
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Speaker 2: and I went, he made eight last year, eight and

503
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Speaker 2: he had nine picks. He has nine picks this year.

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Speaker 2: I think he had like ten or eleven last year.

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Speaker 2: So I think six is probably right at it. So

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Speaker 2: that's probably that's probably a one. You're probably right about that,

507
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Speaker 2: all right, Mark, good job with the sizzle fires. And

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Speaker 2: now we turn it over to our guy, the gorgeous

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Speaker 2: won Indi kolludes Texans ode GeSe. You got Anthony Hill,

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Speaker 2: former Texans tight end, coming up next right here in

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Speaker 2: Texans All Access.

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Speaker 4: What's up everybody?

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Speaker 2: Walking back to this Friday edition of Texans All Access

514
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Speaker 2: from the Hunday Texans Radio studio. It's time to go

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Speaker 2: to Texans ode G's man himself, Indie Kolow hooked up

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Speaker 2: with Anthony Hill, former Texans tied in this great stuff.

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Speaker 1: Take a listen.

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Speaker 6: A good friend of mine that I just missed playing

519
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Speaker 6: with as he's a young buck. He's a young OG

520
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 6: drafted in two thousand and nine and that's the year

521
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Speaker 6: that I called it quits, or my body called it quits,

522
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Speaker 6: but that's when he got his NFL career started. But

523
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Speaker 6: luckily for me, had a chance to really get to

524
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Speaker 6: know this brother over the years and we have some

525
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Speaker 6: like interest both business owners, which we'll discuss later in

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Speaker 6: the show. But my man Anthony Hill sitting in for

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Speaker 6: the OG podcast.

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Speaker 5: What's going on? Anthony?

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Speaker 4: What's going on in the I appreciate you for having

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Speaker 4: me here, man, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I appreciate you coming in because I know how busy

532
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Speaker 6: you are, not just raising a young king, your young son,

533
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Speaker 6: but also running a company and all the things that

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Speaker 6: you got going on. So we'll discuss that, but definitely

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Speaker 6: definitely appreciate you coming in now. I've had a bunch

536
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Speaker 6: of friends because it's a common name named Anthony, and

537
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 6: more than half of them their nickname is ant. But

538
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Speaker 6: you staying in six two hundred and seventy plus pounds.

539
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Speaker 6: Did they ever call your aunts growing up?

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Speaker 7: They called me aunt Hill, they called me a hill,

541
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Speaker 7: and called me little A is mine. That was when

542
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Speaker 7: I was raised. My main name was little A because

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Speaker 7: my dad name was Anthony.

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Speaker 6: Now your dad made soul rest in peace. I know

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Speaker 6: he's no longer with us here. It was it was

546
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Speaker 6: he a big guy in stature like you.

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Speaker 7: He was about six three where I'm about six five

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Speaker 7: sixty six, and so I was always bigger than him.

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Speaker 7: So I was the one that was like, hey, you're

550
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Speaker 7: gonna start calling me big A now instead of little A.

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Speaker 7: And I bet that never happened.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely never got any trash.

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Speaker 6: That never happened. You know, let's get into it. Because

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Speaker 6: you're from the you know, this is another question. We

555
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 6: just have fun here OG podcast. We don't get too technical. Uh,

556
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Speaker 6: you know, two former players just chopping it up, as

557
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Speaker 6: I like to say. Now, you're from Houston slash surrounding areas.

558
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Speaker 6: I grew up in San Antonio. I fell in love

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Speaker 6: with Houston when you know, I first visited Rice University

560
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Speaker 6: and I knew this was gonna be home. I want

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Speaker 6: to ask you, because we have this debate sometimes if

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Speaker 6: you're not from Houston proper when you leave, do you

563
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Speaker 6: claim Houston?

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Speaker 5: And what I mean by that? Where did you officially

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Speaker 5: grow up?

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Speaker 7: Okay, so so I'm originally from Dickinson. That's my whole

567
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Speaker 7: family is Dickinson, Texas. I went to school in Friends Would.

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Speaker 7: I went to high school at Clearbrook High School. When

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Speaker 7: I left and went to n C State. Yes, I claimed.

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Speaker 6: It makes sense because somebody from outside of Texas might

571
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Speaker 6: not know Friends exactly.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that was the main thing. Nobody knows where Dickinson

573
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Speaker 7: or Friends Would is. And so yeah, yeah, being in college,

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Speaker 7: I think a lot of guys will hear friends with

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Speaker 7: Are you from friendly Wood, You're from Friends you know whatever?

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Speaker 7: It's like, Oh no, man, I'm from Friends Would.

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Speaker 6: So they're gonna test your gangs friends would? That don't

578
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Speaker 6: sound hard because I know guys. And again it's a

579
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Speaker 6: fun argument. Who are from Katie but when they leave

580
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Speaker 6: they say Houston. But then people who are truly from Houston,

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Speaker 6: I'm talking about inside the six ' ten loops Sunnyside,

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Speaker 6: South Union, They're like, Nah, you can't claim Houston, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: but we guys like you are claiming Houston outside of

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Speaker 6: the state. It's only a good thing for the city.

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Speaker 6: So how'd you go from Friendswood to Hargrave Military Academy

586
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Speaker 6: which is in Virginia to North Carolina?

587
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Speaker 5: Like that took you, That took you all over.

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Speaker 7: Definitely, Definitely it was a It was definitely a wake

589
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Speaker 7: up call. So you know, I was here, I was

590
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Speaker 7: here in Houston, I was going to Clearbrook. Had a

591
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Speaker 7: good friend of mine, a childhood friend of mine that

592
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Speaker 7: went to n C State as well and also went

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Speaker 7: to Hargrave. Okay, And so I mean when you go

594
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Speaker 7: to Hartgrave, you go to Hardgrave for two different reasons.

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Speaker 7: You need to go for you know, you need some

596
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Speaker 7: you need to make up some grades, or you need

597
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Speaker 7: to get some higher test scores or whatever that case

598
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Speaker 7: may be.

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Speaker 4: Or you want a second look. You want a second look.

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Speaker 7: You want people to see you in a bigger light

601
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Speaker 7: because it's a you know, it's a very well known

602
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Speaker 7: football school as well.

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Speaker 4: And so.

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Speaker 7: My buddy told me that he thought it was a

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Speaker 7: great idea Hardgrave had. I believe the year that I

606
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Speaker 7: was there, we had ninety five percent of the athletes

607
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Speaker 7: went Division one football, and so yeah, I thought it

608
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Speaker 7: was a great opportunity to show that I was better

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Speaker 7: than what I had shown.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to Texas OG podcast Indie Klue and Anthony Hill.

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Speaker 1: Ind take it away.

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Speaker 6: Let me ask you this because for ninety five percent,

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Speaker 6: and I don't think people realize how high of a

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Speaker 6: number that is. To go D one, do you have

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Speaker 6: to be accepted to go there? Because it sounds like

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Speaker 6: you can't just walk off the street and go to Hardgrave.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, you have to be accepted there.

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Speaker 7: Actually I was accepted verbally, uh declined with a letter,

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Speaker 7: and you know, I.

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Speaker 4: Praise God for my mother.

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Speaker 7: She she actually called the chairman and she said, hey,

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Speaker 7: you know, I know you sent this letter. I see

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Speaker 7: your signature on the bottom of it, you know, And

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Speaker 7: she she she gave him a scripture and uh, she said,

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Speaker 7: I'd like, you know, I'd ask for you to reopen

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Speaker 7: my case, and uh, you know basically that I was

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Speaker 7: going there. She she told the chairman, yes, you know,

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Speaker 7: I will be going there. And uh, seven days later, Uh,

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Speaker 7: we got a letter that said you have been accepted.

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Speaker 7: It was it was it was unreal.

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Speaker 6: Like did she say, hey, your word is supposed to

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Speaker 6: be your bond type deal. Was that part of the conversation.

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Speaker 7: Or you know what, there's a scripture and I hate

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Speaker 7: you know, I know the scripture.

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Speaker 4: But there is a scripture that she recited to him.

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Speaker 7: You know, she she gave him a scripture out of

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Speaker 7: the Bible and and uh she told him that I

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00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 7: was going and told him to reopen my file please,

639
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Speaker 7: and uh he reopened it. And literally seven days later,

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Speaker 7: I was getting an acceptance letters saying you have been accepted.

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Speaker 5: Amen.

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Speaker 7: Now amen, yeah, right now. Little did I know that

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Speaker 7: going there. First off, it was all boys school. It

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Speaker 7: was in the middle of nowhere. One of our things

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Speaker 7: that we did outside we we we uh go and

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Speaker 7: run around in the Kyle fields. Basically there's nothing to

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Speaker 7: do there was There was one McDonald's. But I will

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Speaker 7: say it talked so much, so much discipline, the discipline

649
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Speaker 7: and you know everything that hard grave instilled into me,

650
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 7: helped me out to be a better man in the

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Speaker 7: in the long run.

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Speaker 6: You know what, when I'm raising two boys, you have

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Speaker 6: a young young boy, young son, And when I think

654
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Speaker 6: of military school, when I think about that experience, just

655
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 6: forget football. Like, are there things that you learned there

656
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 6: or experienced there that you carried into manhood?

657
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 4: Definitely? Oh, man, definitely definitely.

658
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 7: So first off, you wake up to a horn at

659
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 7: about five am every morning. Wow, you wake up and

660
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 7: you have to brush your teeth, wash your face, make

661
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 7: your bed, get dressed, and be downstairs in your battalion group.

662
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 7: So I believe our battalion was. I believe we were

663
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 7: the golf company. Yeah, we were golf company. And then

664
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 7: you have to report and you have to say that

665
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 7: you know, everyone's accounted for, and then you have to

666
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 7: march to breakfast.

667
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 4: So your uniform oh yeah, oh yeah, okay.

668
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 7: You're in you're in a full on uniform.

669
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're in a you're in a uniform.

670
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 7: Uh, you have to march I mean left right, you know,

671
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 7: if you if you get in trouble or anything like that,

672
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 7: you have to march the bull ring for hours. It

673
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 7: may be like a thirty by thirty by thirty square

674
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 7: and you have to march that bull ring and uh

675
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 7: we be in like dress shoes. I mean we were sharp,

676
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 7: but you know, it was it was. Uh, it was

677
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 7: a heck of an experience. And I think the biggest

678
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 7: thing that I can take into uh manhood is the

679
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 7: level of discipline that was there and just you know, hey, look,

680
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 7: you know you have to get up, you have to go,

681
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 7: you have to make your bed, you have to you know,

682
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 7: you have to get up and uh do these things

683
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,239
Speaker 7: as a man and so going and it was very

684
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 7: very tough. Yeah, I will say that it was. It

685
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 7: was very tough. We did three of days we had

686
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 7: to hike up a hill to go to practice, like

687
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 7: a like a half a mile to a mile.

688
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 4: But it just became easy.

689
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 7: And so the things that are tough now are still

690
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 7: easy because it's like, you know, nobody went through the

691
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 7: stuff that I've been through, you know. And so yeah,

692
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 7: so that's one of the biggest things that I take

693
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 7: in too.

694
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 2: That you listen to Texas og podcast with nd Clue

695
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 2: and former tight end Anthony Hill.

696
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I got so many questions and comments off that,

697
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 6: like that's such so let me just start with my comment.

698
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 6: I know this will never happen, and it may seem

699
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 6: somewhat controversial, every boy in America should have to spend

700
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 6: a year doing something similar, definitely, especially today. And again

701
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 6: it's a pipe dream, but every boy, I'm saying, boy

702
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 6: uh pre adulthood should spend a year doing that, and

703
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 6: I think they would appreciate the comforts of life a

704
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 6: little more.

705
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 4: In the long run, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah, in

706
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 4: the long run.

707
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,720
Speaker 7: I mean there's no phones, there's no you know, you

708
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 7: you use a payphone, You gotta have your haircut, shave,

709
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 7: you got to be cleaned. I mean, it's it's it's everything.

710
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 7: It's it's discipline at its finest.

711
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 5: Were there times where you're like, this isn't for me.

712
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 7: So you asked the question earlier. I don't know if

713
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 7: I answered, yeah, well I did. Yes, you have to

714
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 7: be accepted, but you still have to pay some sort

715
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 7: of amount and so h we we didn't, We didn't

716
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 7: necessarily have those that type of money, and so we

717
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 7: did still find a way to pay it. So I

718
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 7: knew there was no walking away. There was no walking away.

719
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 7: My mom was my mom would have probably no.

720
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: Way.

721
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 7: So so really quittin wasn't an option. So did a

722
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 7: lot of guys quit? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, we

723
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 7: had a We had a lot of guys quit. We

724
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 7: had a guy he was he was the number one

725
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 7: defensive tackle in the nation. He quit after two days.

726
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 7: You know, we had we had a lot of guys

727
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 7: that quit. But it just it just wasn't an option

728
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 7: for me.

729
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 6: So this particular guy, we won't say his name. Did

730
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 6: you ever follow to see what happened? Whatever happened?

731
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, nothing, yeah, definitely no, no, no, But but I

732
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 7: mean that's the thing, you know, I think, I think, uh,

733
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 7: I think sometimes quentin can be contagious as well, where

734
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 7: you know, if you allow you you know, if you

735
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 7: allow yourself to quit, you know, I think you'll quit again,

736
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 7: and you'll quit again, and you'll quit again.

737
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 2: To Texas Ochie podcast with Indi Clue and his guest

738
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 2: former Texans tight end Anthony Hill.

739
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 6: That's strong, that's strong what you said, quitting can be contagious.

740
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 6: So with that being said, then you go on to

741
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 6: have obviously a great career at nc State or you're

742
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 6: not going in the fourth round to the NFL. So

743
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 6: we'll assume you took care of business there as a

744
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 6: guy who went through that and then you went to

745
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 6: NC State. What do you think about the current state

746
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 6: of college football where the portal and people always and

747
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 6: I think they're a little bit incorrect, and I know

748
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 6: they indirectly affect each other. In my opinion, people always

749
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 6: use the portal and nil like in the same breath,

750
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,919
Speaker 6: and I'm like, that's two different things. But I get

751
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 6: people hit the portal do that in il. So with

752
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 6: all my rambling going on with a guy who stuck

753
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 6: through a very tough year just to get to college,

754
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 6: which isn't easy, especially you know when you played not

755
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 6: today's college football, I just want your thoughts on the

756
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 6: current state of college football and the transfer portal.

757
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 7: It's it's tough, you know, I you know, for someone

758
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 7: that didn't have the option to uh just go to

759
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 7: another school just because back then the rules were you

760
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 7: have to sit a year out if you were in conference.

761
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 7: I believe it was two years you had to sit out,

762
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 7: you know. I think that I think the biggest part

763
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 7: to me is what's fair. What's fair to the kids,

764
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 7: because those are the you know, those are the kids

765
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 7: that are you know, the kids on the field those

766
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 7: are the kids that are that are that are grinding

767
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 7: day in and day out. Not saying that the coaches

768
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,280
Speaker 7: don't do anything, because I think having a great coaches

769
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 7: is essential. But my only you know, the thing that

770
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 7: I go back and forth on is just it's just

771
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 7: what is fair and what's not fair? Uh Me personally,

772
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 7: I I wish they could post date from back when

773
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 7: me and you were and saying, hey, look, you know,

774
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 7: you know you guys deserve a check as well. But no,

775
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 7: you know, I think there as far as a portal,

776
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 7: that's a that's a tough thing because it's hard to

777
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 7: see that kids are committed or they aren't committed. On

778
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 7: the on the flip side of it, I think coaches

779
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 7: have been doing it for years and years and years.

780
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 7: You know, coaches they go from within the conference and

781
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,760
Speaker 7: they leave today and they're getting a signing bonus tomorrow.

782
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 4: So one of just just a quick story.

783
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 7: So I remember my last game that I played with

784
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 7: n C State, uh Me and my buddy Andre Brown,

785
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 7: we were sitting in the end zone before the game

786
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 7: and we were just kneeling and we were looking into

787
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 7: the stands because we knew that this was our last

788
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 7: home game, and I was just like pointing out how

789
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 7: many of my jerseys that I saw, you know, and

790
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 7: I was like, I was like, man, look at all

791
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 7: of your jerseys. Look at all of my jerseys. And

792
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 7: I mean it was thousands of jerseys that were in

793
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 7: the stands. And I was saying to myself, well, well

794
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 7: hold up.

795
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 5: You know.

796
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 7: I was like, man, you know, I went to the

797
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 7: books and I'm like, these jerseys are eighty five dollars each,

798
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 7: and some of them are even more than that. I

799
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 7: was like, man, I wish, you know, you know, I

800
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 7: wish that I was able to get some of those funds.

801
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 7: You know, I wish I could make you know, even

802
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 7: if it were a percentage, you know. And so I

803
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 7: I don't necessarily agree with it, but I don't not

804
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 7: agree with it, you know. I think that it'll continue

805
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 7: to get better as the as the years go on

806
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 7: and go on and go on.

807
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like they created this monster because I was

808
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 6: all about, you know, free capitalism. I'm all for it,

809
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 6: that's the American dream. But when I see kids go

810
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 6: from one school to another just to collect the bag,

811
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 6: it doesn't feel like it's college athletics. But who am

812
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 6: I to say this young man who's honed this skill

813
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 6: and he's worked this gift shouldn't get paid for it.

814
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 6: But I believe it's the problem we see now because

815
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,720
Speaker 6: of the story you just told. If at that time

816
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 6: they had something in place where if somebody's buying an

817
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 6: Anthony Hill jersey, he absolutely even if it's ten percent

818
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,439
Speaker 6: of the sales, should get a piece of it. If

819
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 6: or and I don't know, you're probably too young to

820
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 6: remember this. The UNLV basketball team back in the eighties

821
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 6: when I was young, Stacey aug and Larry Johnson. I mean,

822
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 6: they they were when I was a kid watching TV

823
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 6: like they were stars and they were in college. Just

824
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 6: their style of play, and it was against the rule

825
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 6: for them, with their entrepreneurial spirit to create T shirts

826
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 6: and sell them for them.

827
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 4: So it was against the rules.

828
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,240
Speaker 6: But yet they're walking in the malls, not not school bookstore,

829
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 6: the malls, but they're seeing people probleming off T shirts

830
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 6: with their likeness so like, with their likeness on it.

831
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 6: So I feel like they created that issue. And I

832
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 6: don't want to get too deep down this, but it's

833
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 6: cool to hear a story like you actually experienced it,

834
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 6: Like hold on at first you're like, oh, that's cool,

835
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 6: that's my jersey. Then you're like, hold on, my hockey's

836
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 6: got limps. Right, the bookstore is selling for eighty five.

837
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 6: I am struggling. We are struggling in college. I have

838
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 6: no extra money, no anything. And I'm like this, I

839
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 6: see thousands of my jerseys up here, you know.

840
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 5: Yeah. So yeah, So hopefully they get it right.

841
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think they'll get it right eventually.

842
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 6: They'll have to, because some of the stories that I'm hearing,

843
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 6: it's just not sustainable. All right, Well, what is sustainable

844
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 6: that Houston Texans and their success under our boy Demico?

845
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 6: Ryan just kind of talk about you know what you've

846
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 6: seen and you know some of the experiences you've had

847
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,720
Speaker 6: now that we're watching this, this organization literally turn around.

848
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely, definitely, No, man, I think it's I think

849
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 7: it's awesome. I think I think Demiko. I know when

850
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 7: I played, I know Demiko was always a leader. He

851
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 7: was always you know, a headstrong guy. He wasn't a follower.

852
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 7: I knew that I could, you know, I could actually

853
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 7: cling to him a little bit more. And you know,

854
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 7: I personally remember him inviting me to church before and like, hey, man,

855
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 7: you know, you know, hey, look, you know it's off season.

856
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 7: Y'all want to go to church. And I'm like, what

857
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 7: are you talking about? You know, what's which? Which? I

858
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 7: you know, I was going to church then, but I

859
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 7: was like, no one else in the locker room is

860
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 7: speaking like that, you know, at least you know, consistently,

861
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 7: as you know, as he was and just you know,

862
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 7: and and then on the field he was he was

863
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 7: such a he was such a great player. So I mean,

864
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 7: he seems so easy to want to play for. And

865
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 7: it seems like that the guys today, they I mean,

866
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 7: they just want to play for him, you know that,

867
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 7: you know, they want to make him happy. And he

868
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Speaker 7: is jumping up and down as if he was currently playing.

869
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Speaker 7: You know, he's he looks like he could still play, honestly. So,

870
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Speaker 7: you know, nothing, I have nothing but great things, great

871
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 7: you know, great feelings. Whenever he came back, uh, you know,

872
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Speaker 7: just just just him being a real person, him being personal,

873
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 7: him actually approaching all of the former players and saying, hey,

874
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Speaker 7: you know, you know, is there something that that I

875
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Speaker 7: can do to help you guys out or is there

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Speaker 7: something that you guys want to do? You know, anything

877
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Speaker 7: that you guys have in mind. I just thought that

878
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Speaker 7: was just amazing, and so just looking at the organization

879
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 7: now and just like, man, you know, he just came

880
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 7: in and lit this fire, and it just seems like

881
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 7: the fans are just so excited, and you know, I mean,

882
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 7: we're we're, we're, you know, we're in the West Club

883
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Speaker 7: during the you know, I mean, it's it's just everyone's

884
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 7: high five and then going crazy. And you know, I

885
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 7: think that that's just a trickle down effect of how

886
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Speaker 7: impactful he is and how he brings it to the players,

887
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Speaker 7: and then the players, it goes through the players to

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Speaker 7: the fans, and it's just you know, throughout the whole

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Speaker 7: uh city of Houston, you know, you know, and just

890
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Speaker 7: just to all of the fans.

891
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Speaker 4: You know, it's just it's just insane.

892
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Speaker 1: It is definitely insane. Man. It was great stuff with

893
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Speaker 1: Anthony Hill.

894
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Speaker 2: You want to hear the full podcast, Texas OG podcast,

895
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Speaker 2: go to our podcast page.

896
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Speaker 1: Where you're gonna get in the lab.

897
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Speaker 2: You're gonna get Vanner Resview, you get Texas OG's, you.

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Speaker 1: Get all of our all access shows.

899
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Speaker 2: Check it out right there at our podcast Page's Texas

900
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 2: dot Com check out all the great stuff we got

901
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 2: going up there as well. We get back to go

902
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 2: around the NFL. What happened on a Friday. Anything that

903
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 2: can get back to Texans. You never know, you never know,

904
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Speaker 2: So we'll hit it next right here in Texas All Access.

905
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Speaker 2: We all find a segment of this Friday issue in

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Speaker 2: Texans All Access from Monday, Texas Radio Studio. I'm your host,

907
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 2: John Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter, and looking forward to

908
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 2: a full weekend with my Draft Guide. Yes, that's what

909
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 2: I will be doing all weekend, watching the Final four,

910
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 2: maybe going to get my favorite sourdough bread and my

911
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 2: favorite place Angelas of it over here in the Heights.

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Speaker 1: So I'll probably do a few of that. But I

913
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Speaker 1: am Draft Guide all the way through.

914
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Speaker 2: So if you want to check that out when I'm

915
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Speaker 2: done with it, Football Takeover dot Com.

916
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Speaker 1: You'll love it.

917
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 2: It's gonna be jam packed with information on draft prospects.

918
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Speaker 2: But I'm different from other draft analysts because I'll give

919
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 2: you the NFL side of it as well, what teams

920
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 2: should be looking for, where their needs, etc. Et cetera.

921
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Speaker 2: So put all that together in the Draft Guide. It's

922
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Speaker 2: gonna be sweet and worth your money. So Football Takeover

923
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Speaker 2: dot Com, make sure you check that out. Some news

924
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 2: in the NFL, the probably the biggest news comes out

925
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 2: of Carolina where and I this was kind of floating

926
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Speaker 2: out there a little bit when the Texans started free agency.

927
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 2: Hey Shard, the Texans look at Derek Brown with the

928
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Speaker 2: Panthers and yeah, it's probably gonna cost. And then it's

929
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Speaker 2: probably gonna cost if you know what I mean. Well,

930
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Speaker 2: the Panthers decided to give Derek Brown a four year,

931
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Speaker 2: ninety six million dollar extension. Four years, ninety six million

932
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 2: dollar extension.

933
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: I said this last year, I feel like we are

934
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Speaker 1: in the.

935
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Speaker 2: Midst of some of the greatest defensive interior players as

936
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Speaker 2: a group. As we've seen now Aaron Donald steps away

937
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 2: and retires. But you're talking about Chris Jones and Kansas City,

938
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 2: Dexter Lawrence with the Giants, Jeffrey Simmons and Tennessee. You're

939
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Speaker 2: talking about the two guys in Washington, Jonathan Allen, Daron Payne,

940
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 2: those got I mean, Javon Hargrave with the.

941
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Speaker 1: Forty nine ers. It just goes on and on and on,

942
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: and Derek Brown is definitely one of those. Man. Quinn

943
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 1: Williams I miss justin madebike. It's as good.

944
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Speaker 2: Defensive interior group as I've ever seen in the NFL.

945
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 2: And last year we got to see all of them.

946
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 2: We saw Simmons in them, Payne and Williams or Allan,

947
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 2: I mean paying Allen. Then we saw Dexter Lawrence. Then

948
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 2: we saw Fletcher Cox. Thanks thankfully he has moved out

949
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 2: and retired. But then we saw John Hargrave on a

950
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 2: Thursday night. He had three sacks of Davis Mills. So

951
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Speaker 2: Derek Brown four years ninety six million. The Panthers see

952
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 2: him in that class, and I honestly, I don't know

953
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 2: that I I don't know that I.

954
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Speaker 1: Would argue with that at all.

955
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Speaker 2: I did for a brief minute think about what Derek

956
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 2: Brown would look like.

957
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Speaker 1: In this defense.

958
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Speaker 2: But four years ninety six million, I mean, obviously, look

959
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 2: at what the Texans have paid money.

960
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 1: Wise throughout They've paid some guys some money.

961
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Speaker 2: I mean, Danielle Hunter got paid and a few others

962
00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 2: have gotten paid, but they didn't pay exorbitant amounts of

963
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 2: players coming from other organizations. It was fair and good

964
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 2: money for Danil Hunter, Joe Mixon, et cetera. And they

965
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 2: did right by Stefan Diggs, but four years ninety six

966
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 2: it's a tough pill to swallow. So Derek Brown stays

967
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Speaker 2: with the Panthers and.

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Speaker 1: We'll see what he's able to do. All right, appreciate

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Speaker 1: you guys being a part of the show.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much to Mark, to Anthony Hill who

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Speaker 2: was with our guy Indy Kalow, all of you guys

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Speaker 2: for listening.

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Speaker 1: Y'all have a tremendous weekend.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back on Monday at six with anything that

975
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Speaker 2: happens over the weekend and more Texans talk.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you that everybody, as always go Texans.