1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: This is taking stock with PIM Fox and Kathleen Hayes 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Radio. Amazon it beat on earnings per share 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: buck seventy eight versus an estimated dollar twelve cents to share. 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: It beat on second quarter net sales. The estimate was 5 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: twenty nine a half billion that came at thirty point four. 6 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: But it sees its third quarter operating income at fifty 7 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: million to six hundred fifty million versus an estimated eight 8 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: hundred fifteen million, So the share price is now down. 9 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: Bert Flickinger joins us now managing director at Strategic Resource 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: Group here in New York City, also in our New 11 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: York studio. To look at the numbers, Bird, what do 12 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: you think so far? Amazon's numbers are phenomenal, Kathleen and 13 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: PIM revenue increased thirty one percent last last year to 14 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: date revenue increase work. They're dominating the developed world quicker 15 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: than Genghis Khan or anyone from Series and Robot to 16 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: Sam Wall never ever did uh the The earnings per 17 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: share are terrific. The one concerned people have in the 18 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: aftermarket is Amazon's being conservative on guidance. But Amazon is 19 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: always conservative on future guidance. Bert Flickinger, Who's Amazon gonna 20 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: put out of business? Next? Amazon's not gonna put Walmart 21 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: dot Com out of business, but neither Walmart dot Com 22 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: nor anyone else can catch up. So, PAM, you're looking 23 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: at everyone from dollar stores to discount stores, to grocery 24 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: stores to fashion, specialty and accessory stores going out of 25 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: business worldwide. Everybody's looking to save more money with price discovery. Uh, 26 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: save more for Amazon. Uh. Students, seniors, working class are 27 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: getting crushed economically. Amazon's a solution to raise everyone's standard 28 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: of living. Wow, that's a very bold statement. That's a 29 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: solution that brace everyone's standard of living. You have to 30 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: whether it's the students I teach at Cornell University who 31 00:01:55,600 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: come from around the world, or it's it's it's people 32 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: in all walks of life that we're talking to, whether 33 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: it's in the Middle East, Europe, Asia, or the America's 34 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: um working people's students, seniors need a bargain better on 35 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: get those in in brick and mortar. I see bargains 36 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: all over the place where they're they're bargains all over, 37 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: But there's Amazon provides the depth and range of assortment, free, 38 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: free delivery, great styles and colors matching, and in many 39 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: states and provinces no sales tax. So with with Amazon, 40 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: it's a great solution. To your point, people still go 41 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: to go to stores for UH style and and fit. 42 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: But one of the things that's really really hurting all 43 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: the malls is the mediocre creative that's coming out of 44 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: the Hollywood studios. So customer counts are down in the 45 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: malls into pimps present point. With more and more bricks 46 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: based retailers going out of business, that's killing the customer 47 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: counts even for the successful retailers. So everybody in shopping 48 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: malls and centers are suffering. In Amazon's capitalizing, well, just 49 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: to give you this comparison, right, if you take a 50 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: look at the sales of Amazon there on a run 51 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: rate to do about a hundred and twenty billion a year, right, 52 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: Walmart run rate about four hundred and eighty right billion. 53 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: If you take a look at the market cap though, 54 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: market cap of Walmart two hundred and twenty eight billion 55 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: dollars market cap of Amazon three hundred and fifty five 56 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: billion dollars. There win in the war as far as 57 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: market capitalization, what people think the company is worth. Think 58 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: what it's worth and look at well managed companies like 59 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: Macy's Bloomingdale's to your point of growth PIM Macy's Bloomingdale's 60 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: is about twenty five billion combined. That's what Amazon is 61 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: adding in new sales every year. Chain the size of 62 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: Macy's and Bloomingdale's. And Macy's and Bloomingdale's is dominant in 63 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: department stores worldwide by far the biggest. Best. Do you 64 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: buy Amazon stock now? I would, Kathleen. Amazon's blown through 65 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: both both my annual estimates, the less a few years 66 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: two years ago at this time I predicted from five 67 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: fifty to six fifty. When it was at six hundred, 68 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: I predicted seven fifty at this point, see it being 69 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: unstoppable both competitively and economically to at least eight hundred. 70 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: Full disclosure, own own Amazon and will continue to own 71 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: Amazon's long term holding. I just mentioned that the shares 72 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: of Amazon are higher right now by nearly five percent 73 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: in after hours trading. But one more thing on on Amazon, 74 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: the web services division. I know you're not a tech geek, 75 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: at least you don't play one on radio, war on television, 76 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: but Amazon Web Services. We were just talking with Roger 77 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: mcmeee the deal nine point three billion dollars Oracle buying 78 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: net Suite. This is a big and growing business for 79 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: Amazon that other retailers don't seem to have. Pammy right 80 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: A w S or Amazon Web Services is a phenomenal business. 81 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: It's nine percent of Amazon currently, the segment of the 82 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: markets growing by over three hundred billion dollars per year, 83 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: and Amazon's leader fire ahead of Google, fire ahead of IBM, 84 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: Oracle everyone else. So in terms of the catch up factor, 85 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: does anybody catch up with Amazon? Now? Is there any 86 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: hope Kathleen, Amazon's unstoppable past president in future because Jeff 87 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: Bezos had the great strategic vision to invest maximum capex 88 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: for decades. Uh, It's something the Roman Empire did its 89 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: first two hundred years, and there been long term Roman 90 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: empires of retailing, but no one's committed the capex, whether 91 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: it's the Walden family at Walmart nor anyone else. So, Uh, 92 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: Amazon is going to continue to grow, harvesting it's its capex, 93 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: and its competitors don't have the balance sheets to beat Amazon, 94 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Bert Flickinger, he is managing director 95 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: of Strategic Resource Group. Shares of Amazon up nearly five 96 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: percent in after hours trading, after reporting second quarter earnings 97 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: and revenue that exceeded estimates. This is Bloomberg