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Speaker 1: What is up? Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode

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Speaker 1: of the Mets Stuff Podcast. Yes, series win and we

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Speaker 1: end the series with a win, which means people are

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Speaker 1: excited to listen on Monday. There's no letdown game, there's nothing.

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Speaker 1: Mets came out Game one, Game three, hit, the ball

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Speaker 1: played gleek, good, clean baseball, a lot of good things

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Speaker 1: to talk about. Code I Sanga. Hell yeah, the offense

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Speaker 1: was clicking. It was a good series. It was a

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Speaker 1: good series overall. Again, the Mets still are not at

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Speaker 1: one in terms of where this team can be. But

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Speaker 1: good baseball teams win baseball games against worst teams, and

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Speaker 1: that's what they're doing. Love to see it. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about every single game in this series. Of course,

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Speaker 1: Links to those will be in the description as well. James,

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Speaker 1: how we feel we just wrapped up watching a little

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Speaker 1: bit of the Masters where Notckleroy tried his best to

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Speaker 1: choke it out. But otherwise, pretty good weekend for the Mets.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's sensational. It's just kind of what happens. I

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Speaker 2: feel like when you play a worse team, you just

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Speaker 2: find ways to win. You kind of hang on, you

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Speaker 2: stay in the game out you would just wind up

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Speaker 2: out lasting them because you were more talented. We went

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Speaker 2: up hitting really well in the late innings and the

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Speaker 2: two wins. Our bullpen was better than theirs. And besides

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Speaker 2: the game where they used their a ballpenks. I told

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Speaker 2: you guys that that Sacramento as a bullpen was pretty nice. Weird,

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Speaker 2: the sacramount of stuff was weird. That was a strange

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Speaker 2: caveat of the series. Cool how many Mets fans like

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Speaker 2: showed up there and showed out, like hearing let's go

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Speaker 2: mess chance, like hearing a big ovation for Brett Baity

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Speaker 2: when you hit his triple on Sunday. But so nice

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Speaker 2: to see that that part of this. But just a

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Speaker 2: strange to play a major league series in minor league

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Speaker 2: park and you felt all that. But just a really good, clean,

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Speaker 2: comfortable nice casual series win for a team that was

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Speaker 2: better than the team they played against.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for a ballpark that gives up a ton of runs.

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Speaker 1: Usually that's what it's done all season. Truly, I see

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Speaker 1: that the Mets pitching was able to keep the a's

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Speaker 1: to pretty low amounts in all these games. Like, they

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Speaker 1: did a really good job start to finish in almost

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Speaker 1: every single game. It was really nice. Game one started

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Speaker 1: off there. Let's get start off at the beginning of

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Speaker 1: the series one, you guys were game three. Game one

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Speaker 1: was pure chaos. I mean with the first game for

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Speaker 1: the Mets in that stadium, you could tell that a

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Speaker 1: lot of the players does not necessarily seem that comfortable,

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Speaker 1: especially in the outfield. You're getting a lot lower lights

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Speaker 1: out there. Looked like Jose Sirie lost the ball.

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Speaker 3: It was.

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Speaker 1: It was all over the place. It was crazy.

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Speaker 2: It was also just it was a good return to

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Speaker 2: the midnight Mets. We love the Big night Mets on

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Speaker 2: this podcast because the Mets play these West Coast night games,

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Speaker 2: especially Friday nights, like they get they get a little

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Speaker 2: bit crazy. Like I ended my work shift at ten

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Speaker 2: thirty that night and met you guys write in Green

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Speaker 2: Point at a sports part we like, and we had

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Speaker 2: having a great fun night watching the midnight Mets with

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Speaker 2: shout out thet Boy Hugh north Brooklyn legend, our guy,

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Speaker 2: Hugh shoutout Kieran Culkin. Saw Kieran Kulkin at the bar

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Speaker 2: Roman Roy. But it was just a fun again. It

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Speaker 2: night games they get whacky because they got really wacky,

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Speaker 2: like Round was being wacky, Gary's being wacky, Steve Kelp's

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Speaker 2: Also like nice little shout like credit for JP Sears.

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Speaker 2: He had Francisco Lindoor and want So though especially in

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Speaker 2: But like JP Sears had a nice little, nice little career,

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Speaker 2: It was it was just annoying that then the series

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna put it out there. JP series will be

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Speaker 1: It feels like just another guy, like at some point

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Speaker 1: Stearns being like crafty, a little lefty like this who

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Speaker 1: throws strikes, throws like ninety four. Why not sweep? Why

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Speaker 1: Sodo and Lindor look foolish. Those were some of the

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Speaker 1: most uncomfortable at bats I've ever seen from Juan Soto

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Speaker 1: don't know what's going on, but he's just not able

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Speaker 1: He's got to find that middle ground. Need him to

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Speaker 1: a great series until the last two games. But Game

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Speaker 1: one was all about Pete. The double was just amazing

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Speaker 1: for him. He just continues to be very patient at

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Speaker 1: he's being very patient rather than passive because when those

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was another game for where he just put

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Speaker 2: the team on his back individually. Like that double with

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine what is going to play like in

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Speaker 2: Diez again, adrenaline junkie Edward Diez. But we're the spot

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're starting to see Brandon Nemo as well

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Speaker 1: It was a good job Griffin Canning did Grete two

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Speaker 2: Get the counter going, that's one, But I mean you

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Speaker 1: They're technically not the Sacramento as either, right, they're just

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Speaker 2: because they want to make sure everything's still set on Vegas,

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Speaker 2: even though it's not set in stone. That a weird

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Speaker 2: Jose Sirie to get off the field. It's just like

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Speaker 2: wonder about the guy like Brent Rooker's specifically, who was

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Speaker 2: Another strange situation going on. Got to talk about it briefly.

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Speaker 2: pitch well in this game. Dave used certainly pitched well

433
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Speaker 2: enough to win. Just continues his ascent and his growth.

434
00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,600
Speaker 2: Can't even imagine how far his command has come over

435
00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,760
Speaker 2: the last few years, especially since that hip surgery beginning

436
00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,560
Speaker 2: the last season, how comfortable and how confident he looks.

437
00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,840
Speaker 2: He did give up lots of hard contact, but he

438
00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,040
Speaker 2: didn't walk anybody, so it's never really situation where there's

439
00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:50,880
Speaker 2: that much trouble buy it. Besides a few runs that

440
00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:52,640
Speaker 2: got the way in, he was so good in this

441
00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,960
Speaker 2: game because his right handed batters, especially just keeping the

442
00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,440
Speaker 2: ball away from them. I have liked that over the

443
00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,640
Speaker 2: last year or so, he has become more comfortable going

444
00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,360
Speaker 2: inside to the ridies. But this one seemed like he

445
00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,560
Speaker 2: was very, very specifically trying to keep it away. And

446
00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,040
Speaker 2: he dotted plenty of little which is a scary like

447
00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:07,840
Speaker 2: a scary pitch, that little that little sinker out there,

448
00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,840
Speaker 2: which I don't really like that pitch very much at all.

449
00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:11,240
Speaker 2: Same with a couple of change ups, they still they

450
00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,040
Speaker 2: still worked well enough. And weird thing for Peterson this game,

451
00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,399
Speaker 2: do you notice how prevalent his curveball was. He was

452
00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,000
Speaker 2: throwing it at a bunch. He was like just kind of

453
00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:20,640
Speaker 2: dropping it in there, which was which was a nice

454
00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,680
Speaker 2: little wrinkle to add to this lineup or to Highway's repertoire.

455
00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,720
Speaker 2: Tied for the most times he ever threw that curve

456
00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,040
Speaker 2: ball in this specific start in his entire career, dating

457
00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,800
Speaker 2: back to last August, and he got seven call strikes

458
00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,080
Speaker 2: with it, and he placed a lot of really really

459
00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:33,720
Speaker 2: good ones, especially to the right handed battles. So that

460
00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,800
Speaker 2: was a nice, little, nice little wrinkle for Peterson to

461
00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:37,360
Speaker 2: add again in the game that he pitched well enough

462
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Speaker 2: for the team to win, but we didn't hit well

463
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Speaker 2: enough to win.

464
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Speaker 1: And also, I'm just gonna again a little tip the

465
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Speaker 1: cap here to the A's bullpen. Mason Miller is so

466
00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,760
Speaker 1: he's so insanely good. One can't believe Louis Stren's almost

467
00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,720
Speaker 1: hit a home run on one oh four. Louis Trends

468
00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,080
Speaker 1: is the man. Love Louise Thrends so much. What a dog.

469
00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,359
Speaker 1: But two, I don't really know how anyone gets hit

470
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Speaker 1: off of Mason Miller when he's on, even when he's not. One,

471
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure how.

472
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Speaker 3: You do it.

473
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just seeing hundred four miles an hour flash

474
00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:02,960
Speaker 2: on the screen was kind of like a out of boy.

475
00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,359
Speaker 2: The experience I couldn't even conceive. But he didn't throw

476
00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,800
Speaker 2: a pitch less than a fastball under one hundred one

477
00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,600
Speaker 2: miles an hour. His slowest pitch in the Slowest Fastballes

478
00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:13,360
Speaker 2: game was one hundred and one point two miles an hour,

479
00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,120
Speaker 2: and the average was one hundred and two point six

480
00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,760
Speaker 2: of eleven fastballs average one hundred three miles an hour.

481
00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:21,040
Speaker 2: It's a we're watching the ascent of something really special

482
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Speaker 2: here Mason Miller, as long as he keeps that arm healthy.

483
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but we lost that one, So enough of that one.

484
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Speaker 1: Move on to ever Game three. This was the one. Yeah,

485
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Speaker 1: Sunday love it. We made it to the end of

486
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Speaker 1: the series with a win and the Mets just it

487
00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,480
Speaker 1: took a second to get there. But once they got

488
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Speaker 1: through on several reno they really broke this game open

489
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Speaker 1: against the A's b bullpen, which we mentioned earlier was

490
00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:42,679
Speaker 1: a problem for them in game one. It was a

491
00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:43,760
Speaker 1: problem for them in Game three.

492
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and saw a couple of the Mets people like

493
00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:48,680
Speaker 2: being a little salty on Twitter talking about I can't

494
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Speaker 2: believe we let Severino go when he was through like

495
00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,560
Speaker 2: four innings by the end of the start, the Mets

496
00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,600
Speaker 2: had something like ten hard hit balls against him and

497
00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,240
Speaker 2: only seven or eight swings and misses. Maybe I think

498
00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:57,919
Speaker 2: got to nine swings and misses if I remember correctly.

499
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Speaker 2: So this was the classic game that we saw seven

500
00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,800
Speaker 2: tons and tons of times last year where he gets

501
00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,160
Speaker 2: a timer through the third time or two through the order.

502
00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,800
Speaker 2: The sweeper sensational. He's dotting it wherever he wants it,

503
00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,879
Speaker 2: and suddenly you get through the third time that sinker

504
00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,000
Speaker 2: looks a little bit juicier. That fastball loses a tick

505
00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,280
Speaker 2: of velocities. He was down to ninety three to ninety

506
00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,120
Speaker 2: four when he started the game, ninety seven to ninety eight,

507
00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,200
Speaker 2: just like we saw Anteen at times last year.

508
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Speaker 1: He still he was throwing ninety seven towards the end too.

509
00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:21,760
Speaker 2: No, but there were he did makes a few more

510
00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:23,560
Speaker 2: ninety threes and ninety four. So she just say again,

511
00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,600
Speaker 2: but again now, Chassis Severno loved Luis Eeverno. He was

512
00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,080
Speaker 2: amazing on this team last year. But it's hard to

513
00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,800
Speaker 2: be upset about losing him at this point in the season.

514
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about what he said before the series started

515
00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,320
Speaker 1: as well, because Severino spoke to reporters obviously met people

516
00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,639
Speaker 1: wanted to talk to him, and Severno mentioned how he

517
00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,439
Speaker 1: told the Mets specifically that he would be willing to

518
00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,520
Speaker 1: come back for a lower offer than he gets from

519
00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,120
Speaker 1: any other team. He wanted to be back with the Mets,

520
00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,200
Speaker 1: want to be back in New York, and apparently said

521
00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:49,800
Speaker 1: I would take a two for forty if the Mets

522
00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,280
Speaker 1: gave that to me, like that's what he told him.

523
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Speaker 1: The Mets passed, I'll ask you this question two For forty,

524
00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,440
Speaker 1: Luis Severino or the contract we gave to Frankie Montas

525
00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,920
Speaker 1: in hindsight is twenty twenty. But you probably take sever Reno

526
00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,600
Speaker 1: every time there, right, You probably do.

527
00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,119
Speaker 2: I think that you're just saying that because Mantas is

528
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Speaker 2: hurt right now.

529
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Speaker 1: But even if Monts was healthy, you still think you're

530
00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,560
Speaker 1: taking Montus. I'll say this, if that was, if those

531
00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,080
Speaker 1: guys contracts are both on the table, I think on

532
00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:13,360
Speaker 1: that day I would have taken Savarino.

533
00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,440
Speaker 2: Still, I think that I think I might have as well.

534
00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:17,800
Speaker 2: But I do think that when the Mets we're probably

535
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Speaker 2: looking at this and analyzing who gets this contract is similar,

536
00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,800
Speaker 2: Mons is a few million dollars fewer, So that's probably

537
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Speaker 2: a slight tick for Manzas. And then you look at

538
00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,920
Speaker 2: Mantas having six pitches or Severrino really only having four

539
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,879
Speaker 2: in most days, and then yes, probably another tick for

540
00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,600
Speaker 2: Mantas because Severno just never getting that change up going.

541
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Speaker 2: You have to look and be like, is he ever

542
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,680
Speaker 2: really going to get left handed batters out? Is there

543
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,879
Speaker 2: ever going to be a function for him to get

544
00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,200
Speaker 2: left handed batters out the second or third time consistently.

545
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:41,679
Speaker 2: So I think they probably put those two next to

546
00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,840
Speaker 2: each other, with both guys having horrific long term health grades. Yes,

547
00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,959
Speaker 2: they're probably just like the guy who's slightly cheaper, who

548
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,360
Speaker 2: throws more pitches is probably a better bet. I think

549
00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 2: that was the whole nexus of that decision. Again, Mantis

550
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,240
Speaker 2: getting hurt fucks this whole lot. Yes, but we'll see,

551
00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:57,760
Speaker 2: We'll see what he looks like when he comes back.

552
00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 2: I'm still hopeful for the Frankie Monts's experiment, but I

553
00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:01,639
Speaker 2: think he just literally has to get back on the

554
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,880
Speaker 2: field to pitch. But I think just as easily Seve

555
00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 2: Reno could have that win early season injury, the whole

556
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,159
Speaker 2: thing could have looked the exact same way. But I

557
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,200
Speaker 2: think it's funny that funny Sevrino said that too. I'm

558
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:11,560
Speaker 2: sure the Mets were like, fuck, why the fuck they

559
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:12,399
Speaker 2: say that that.

560
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure the A's were also kind of like, what

561
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:14,920
Speaker 1: the fuck, dude.

562
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:19,400
Speaker 2: We're not happy with that. It's crazy, I mean again,

563
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 2: because that picture was went so viral and was so funny.

564
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,399
Speaker 2: When he signed that contract with the A's and he

565
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 2: walked out to I think it was Sue their field

566
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,440
Speaker 2: the first time, and he just looked around like where

567
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 2: the fuck am I? Like why did I do this?

568
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:30,439
Speaker 1: He had he had like the suit on and he

569
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 1: has his hand and his pot was like, huh damn,

570
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,399
Speaker 1: next three ars here? Huh. I don't even get to

571
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Speaker 1: be in Las Vegas. That kind of sucks.

572
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, But past that story of this game, until the

573
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 2: end of the game, we broke it open Carl that

574
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 2: Sanka best started the season absolutely by far, completely in control.

575
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 2: Seventy pitches and seven innings. Ridiculous, seventy nine pitches just cool?

576
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Speaker 1: What oh he got up to seventy nine? Gary was

577
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 1: saying on the broadcast that it's the third straight start

578
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 1: this year that saying is made that he ends with

579
00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 1: seventy seven pitches. Dang it, seventy nine.

580
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 2: Oh where getting missed to But it's cool that he

581
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,120
Speaker 2: still has a pitch count and he's still able to

582
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 2: pitch a long game. Be efficient, save this bullpen because

583
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 2: after we did have to burn a bunch of the

584
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 2: relievers on Friday, even after the off day Thursday, Saturday

585
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,120
Speaker 2: was only Boudo and Peterson gave up the one run,

586
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,160
Speaker 2: but still did well over two winnings and this game,

587
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 2: by the time Sang came out, we broke it open

588
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,680
Speaker 2: and Mentor gave us the inning, and then it was

589
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 2: Kanic in last ending, which I kind of hate to

590
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:23,920
Speaker 2: use Cranic a situation like that for only one inning,

591
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 2: but really good by saying in Peterson to give us

592
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 2: some length and save this bullpen that's been throwing a

593
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 2: lot of endings early in the season that I'm not

594
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 2: gonna say they're getting tired. I'm not gonna say they're

595
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 2: looking worse, but like we're going to have a regression

596
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,679
Speaker 2: moments within the next ten games. We're gonna have a

597
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 2: game with both someone good someone good in this bullpen

598
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 2: besides Edwin Diaz gives up a heap of runs and

599
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 2: that's going to happen. We just have to regress. But

600
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 2: there was no moments of concern or word he was saying.

601
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 1: In this game. It was tons of weak ground balls,

602
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 1: There was tons of not really based on his performance, no,

603
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,919
Speaker 1: but there was base and then he just dogged it

604
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 1: up and got out of it.

605
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 2: I'm saying, and a lot of times just like he's

606
00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 2: on base, but didn't really feel like there was a threat,

607
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 2: Like even that first intingdull by Lawrence Butler. He was

608
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 2: easy after that. He no, no one even got close

609
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 2: to getting hit, Like this was the best his ghost

610
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 2: fork looked I think all season as well. I was

611
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 2: six wings and missed his way. It's just down there,

612
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 2: fluttering guys had no chance.

613
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 1: Was here a lot of curveball.

614
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,880
Speaker 2: He threw a couple like loopy, depthy sliders.

615
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 1: Like that were like seventy though.

616
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,479
Speaker 2: I feel like he did throw a couple of those

617
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,120
Speaker 2: little curves. He was mixed like three of those a game.

618
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 2: I don't many call strikes got with those right now,

619
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Speaker 2: I'm on the page. He he threw two curveballs and

620
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 2: got one called strike with it. And the curveballs came

621
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 2: in at sixty eight and seventy miles an hour.

622
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Speaker 1: Kind of like that as a little wrinkled just like

623
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 1: this like fuck you up a little bit, you harbish

624
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:34,400
Speaker 1: type thing.

625
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 2: Also, something he did was game more right colors to

626
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 2: right handed batters, and he was dotting them loan away,

627
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,679
Speaker 2: like treating them more like a baby slider than kind

628
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 2: of a color to like jam guys. It was just

629
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,160
Speaker 2: it was just really really really good overall. Also, something

630
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 2: he did that was really cool, second time this year

631
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 2: he's done this. His last fast ball of the game

632
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,239
Speaker 2: was his hardest fast ball of the game, ninety eight

633
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 2: miles nowur his last pitch sat ninety six. The whole time,

634
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 2: just a sensational start from Kota Sang and this looked

635
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 2: like twenty twenty three Quota I Sanka. Yeah, and that

636
00:23:58,600 --> 00:23:59,880
Speaker 2: was a really really nice thing to say.

637
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 1: Made me feel really confident about him moving forward, which

638
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 1: is just like it that's a nice like got to

639
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 1: kind of take a breath today, like, Okay, yeah, nice,

640
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: that's good. That's the guy that we expected to see

641
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 1: on this New York Mets team. But we also have

642
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,199
Speaker 1: to mention that this game started incredibly rocky early too,

643
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 1: because Lindor made a throwing air on what was a

644
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,400
Speaker 1: very bizarre play by him, like almost like he wasn't

645
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 1: ready for it. I don't know, it was strange. Mon

646
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 1: Soda didn't hustle out of ball. We'll talk about that

647
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 1: a second. Tyrone Taylor didn't go in hard to second

648
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 1: base with the slide, ended up getting thrown out on

649
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 1: an attempted sack bump by Louisa Acunya.

650
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,679
Speaker 2: Nemo Dove on that Lawrence Butler pop up turned to

651
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 2: a double yeah.

652
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 1: I was like I text you at one point, I'm like,

653
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 1: they're like not awake right now, and I think I

654
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: think almost minutes after that text, which again classic Mets

655
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: up fashion, was when they broke the game open and

656
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 1: they started hitting the ball and playing a lot better,

657
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,880
Speaker 1: which was encouraging to see because again, after that letdown

658
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,919
Speaker 1: game on Saturday where you're just like ough, like that

659
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 1: was just there was a that was a whole nothing

660
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: piece of nothing whatever to come out like they did

661
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: flat on Sunday, I was like, oh my god, like

662
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: again like I can't, I can't watch this like this

663
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 1: because you have I want to not have to.

664
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 2: But you really want to win this series against the

665
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 2: team you're better than, especially when you probably objectively had

666
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 2: your two best starting pitchers going in this series. Just

667
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 2: another reason you'd like to win it. But this is

668
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 2: a good thing about a guy like kohas Angle where

669
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: he can pick up this offense, Like again, he should

670
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 2: not have to pick up this offense, but the fact

671
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 2: that he is good enough that if the offense is

672
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 2: slow for the first five innings, he's like I could

673
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 2: be really good for the first five innings. I will

674
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 2: give us extra chances to win this game because I'm

675
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 2: a really good pitcher.

676
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: That's yeah. And again, big shout out to the rest

677
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: of the offense today because Soto and Alonso did not

678
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: have any hits today that he had Louise Turns they

679
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 1: got on base three times, but we got two hits

680
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: from Brandon Nemo, a hit in a walk from Mark Viento's,

681
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: three hits from Louise Trenz. Brett Baidy got a triple

682
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: late in the game. Tyrone Taylor got a triple in

683
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: this game. Akunya was hitting the ball hard got a

684
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 1: hit as well. That was really really nice to see

685
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: those guys pick up the team because it had been

686
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: a lot of Sodo, Alonso, Lindor this entire season. They

687
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: put up a stat early on how I think that

688
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 1: portion of the offense has like a nine hundred ops

689
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: and the bottom half had like a four hundred. So

690
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: it was really, really really nice to see those guys.

691
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: And again, Luisterrenz, what a fucking dog. I love this guy.

692
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 1: He's so good defensively, He's hitting the ball really well.

693
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: He takes it Whirred's pitch. He does all the little

694
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: things that you love to see out of a guy

695
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: towards the bottom of the order, not trying to do

696
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 1: too much.

697
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 2: And we needed the moment for someone to pop the

698
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 2: little off running his core position because this Mets team

699
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 2: has been quite not that good the season. Runs the

700
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 2: scoring position, and again, we know we talk about risk

701
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 2: a lot on this show, just basically the fact that

702
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 2: I think it gets magnified tremendously, like on Twitter and

703
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 2: with fans and everything, and even on like the shows

704
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 2: the talking heads. But I do think it's just kind

705
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 2: of random, just like when you get lucky or not.

706
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 2: It's like it's a moment or not.

707
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 3: It is.

708
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 2: This is this is our hard disagree, But yeah, what's

709
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 2: gonna change? Runs his corp positions just yeah, it squeize

710
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 2: a bat a little tighter, like just sometimes they fall,

711
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 2: sometimes they don't. I don't think it's like an actual skill.

712
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 2: It's such I'm so so is wanst not good out

713
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 2: of them?

714
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: He had a rough series with it, but for his

715
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: career he hits with runners in scoring position one hundred percent.

716
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,719
Speaker 1: There's I think for you to think. I don't think

717
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: you're good nonsense. But now it's just luck.

718
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 2: It's if you're good, if you're a good hitter with

719
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 2: no one not basse you're good hit and running.

720
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: His scoring position. There's plenty of guys, I mean, think

721
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:57,719
Speaker 1: about all the time. Time I find any of them,

722
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: I'll find I'll find you seven, I'll find you seven.

723
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 2: Guy find you guys that there's distinctly better and legitimate

724
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 2: sample size runners corp position. First, they are regularly, because

725
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 2: I think that's what it is. I think also, I

726
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 2: think it's just a team thing. Like we always say,

727
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 2: hitting is contagious. The Mets were slumping as a team

728
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 2: in runners cor position, Luis Rrenz knocks the little off

729
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 2: the basket, he gets the big hit, and all of

730
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 2: a sudden the flood gage can open because everyone takes

731
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 2: a deep breath. That's more of what I mean by

732
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 2: this too. It's not like, oh, this guy's really good

733
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 2: with it, this guy's really bad with it. You guys

734
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 2: will wind up all being good with it together at

735
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 2: the same time, because you're either really good running corposition

736
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 2: or bad, and it kind of just goes up and down,

737
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 2: up and down very naturally. With the with the regular

738
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 2: skills out of the team.

739
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, there's a skill for sure involved in

740
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 1: being able to hit with runns of scoring position. This

741
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: is this is get nerds out of baseball, Tanner Allen.

742
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: I'm back in on.

743
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 2: It, Tanner Allen. But cool to just also be able

744
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 2: to see Fiendos and Baby get those hits and late

745
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 2: in the game the crowd chanting baby Baby was killing me.

746
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 2: He was loving that, especially because he made a great

747
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 2: defensive play in this game as well, dove in front

748
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 2: of the door started a double play that Koda Sang

749
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 2: was really excited about as well. He also took some

750
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 2: slightly better at bats I'll say slightly better where he

751
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 2: actually forced some deep counts. Fianto's all so the last

752
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 2: couple of days, took some much better at bass, but

753
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 2: still wasn't able to get that hard contact he's been

754
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 2: waiting for. Got it in this one. It was it

755
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 2: was just nice to see them kind of again blow

756
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 2: the game open and not have a deal with any

757
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 2: stress and be able to get on that play and

758
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 2: had to Minnesota feeling good about this series.

759
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: He's also worth noting Brett Baty played third base today

760
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: as well. I think that is something to take note of. Obviously,

761
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: Brett Baty has been struggling, but defensively at third base.

762
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 1: He made some fantastic plays today, including a beautiful double

763
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: play on a sliding ball in the shop hole. Yeah,

764
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: I know, I'm just saying he made great play. My

765
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: take with Brett Batty that I texted you is I

766
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: think he needs to stop thinking so much. It seems

767
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: like when this guy just plays baseball and reacts is

768
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: when he's at his best. Like his first game ever

769
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: as a New York met hit that home run against

770
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Braves. It's almost like the moment was so

771
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: big that he couldn't think. He was like, just go

772
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: up there and hit in the field. When though he

773
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: has those reaction plays, when he's playing third base the

774
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: hot corner, he's making really good plays. Seems like for

775
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: him en Vento's as well, the thinking is their biggest enemy.

776
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: Brett Baty hit that triple one hundred and thirteen miles

777
00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: an hour today. That ball was smoked. It's gonna be

778
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: one of the hardest hit balls in baseball today. There's

779
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: not gonna be many guys that hit the ball harder.

780
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: I think for both these guys just loosen up a

781
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: little bit, play a little baseball, and maybe Brett Baty

782
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: at third base today was a big part of that.

783
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: Maybe Viento's being the DH today, I think, especially with

784
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: how we've seen Winker and Mortey being kind of streaky

785
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: ish at the plate, there's no reason to have to

786
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: force them to be the DHS every day if you

787
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: get it preferable matchup. I'm okay with Baty being third

788
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: base if he's swinging like he did today and playing

789
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: that defense.

790
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 2: But the problem with that is is that once Jeff

791
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 2: McNeil does come back off angelist, which should this week,

792
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 2: probably he might be back by next weekend. I think

793
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,479
Speaker 2: the Cardinals series, right, Cardinals maybe, but I think possibly

794
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 2: Philly series Monday, just sometime in that home stand, I

795
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 2: think Jeff McNeil will debut and play a game for

796
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 2: the Mets. He's I think he's heading No Alvarez, I

797
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 2: think to Syracuse. I think Jeff is still in Saint Lucy,

798
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 2: so we'll see again how those guys progress this week.

799
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 2: It's hard to keep Brett Batty on the major league

800
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 2: roster with Jeff McNeil, especially because.

801
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: The Kuna has been playing. Really he had a really

802
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: nice series.

803
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and ecun just is better at defense than Baty

804
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 2: straight up, and he's a better runner, and he's right handed,

805
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 2: hither like, he does the exact things that McNeil doesn't

806
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 2: really do similar to Baty. I still think, again, you

807
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 2: guys are gonna hate me, you're saying this. I still

808
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 2: think that there is you could see, baby, you can

809
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 2: see a world where Baity he starts to hit the

810
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 2: ball a little bit. Most best fans want him not

811
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 2: just sent to the minor leagues, sent to the sense

812
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 2: of the dungeon.

813
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: But I almost guarantee he has a great series against Minnesota,

814
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: just in the fight of the idea to maybe like,

815
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: oh shit, what do we do now?

816
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 2: Like just two more hard hit balls, Like there's like

817
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 2: this moments where can see it just he's so his

818
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 2: head is just so fucking discombobulated. It's just painful. I

819
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 2: just I'm still I'm prooving for this guy so hard.

820
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 2: Just I can't it's just we can't will him there.

821
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 2: It's just it's hard. It's hard, so hard.

822
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe he just maybe he needs more negative reinforcement, maybe.

823
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 2: Maybe needs to be mean to the PA.

824
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 3: We'll do it.

825
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: That what it is like maybe he doesn't need a hug,

826
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: maybe he needs to be yelled at. I don't know,

827
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: but like I was, I was really happy to see

828
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: him have a good game on Sunday. That's just for

829
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: the mental state of Brett Baty as a person, glad

830
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: to see that. And same thing with Viento's. The Viando's thing, though,

831
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: is so weird because me and you were worried about him.

832
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: There's that's not a secret by any means. We're concerned,

833
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: but he's not actually doing bad things from a plan

834
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: and production standpoint. At the plate, he's striking out way

835
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: less than he did last year. He's walking a ton more.

836
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: He's technically squaring up the baseball. I don't necessarily love

837
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: squared at percentage on Baseball Savant because it takes into

838
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: account your bat speed plus the speed of the pitch

839
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: coming in. So a guy like Luis Riis Tingley squares

840
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: the ball up at elite rates because he swings so slow,

841
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: so he doesn't actually have to hit the ball particularly hard.

842
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: The one thing I will say is Mark Vinda's beast

843
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: speed is down, which also would make sense why he's

844
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: seemingly so late on every single fastball just might be

845
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: a little bit a tick behind, but like the fact

846
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: that he's chasing less, striking out less, and walking more,

847
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: that should be the mark. Vinzo's like, holy shit, All

848
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: Star season, what's happening here?

849
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 2: Well, I think you kind of got it there when

850
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 2: you deduce with the bat speed, because last year the

851
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: whole thing that saved Vento's because the approach was it

852
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 2: was it was good last year, and he's still swinging

853
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 2: at the right pitches, but it's just that he swings

854
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 2: and misses through so many pitches that he has when

855
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 2: he For him to be a very good player, and

856
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,479
Speaker 2: this was our whole thing with him last year, he

857
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 2: has to make. His contact has to be loud, his

858
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 2: contact has to be worthwhile. And last year the thing

859
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 2: he got better at that he was bad at the

860
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 2: year before was being able to pull those fly balls

861
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 2: and just simply getting more out of his contact. This

862
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 2: year he's pulled almost no fly balls, and if he's

863
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 2: not pulling those fly balls again. He has very good power,

864
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 2: but it's not like top of the league power. It's

865
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 2: not like the other guys with big swing and miss problems,

866
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 2: Guys like as at least Carsia gouts the Brent Rooker

867
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: on the A's g L d La Cruz and O'Neill

868
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 2: Cruiz for extreme examples. They're able to swing and miss

869
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 2: a lot, but they have like ninety ninth percentile power,

870
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: so that contact goes a long way, where Baty still

871
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 2: has like seventieth eighties percentile power. That leaves a lot

872
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 2: more room for error if he's still swing and missing

873
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 2: as much as he is. And he is still swinging

874
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 2: missing as much he is, but I think this year

875
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 2: he's getting a little bit more scared of chasing. I

876
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 2: think it might be situationd Fiento's.

877
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: Okay, he dropped, you said Baty in the middle of

878
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: that first.

879
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 2: Second Forridian slip. But it's just that he's he's the

880
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 2: one thing he's doing again, like in air quotes better

881
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 2: this year is chasing fewer pitchers outside the strike zone.

882
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 2: But maybe that's not what he should be doing. Maybe

883
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 2: he should be just maybe he should be swinging more.

884
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 2: Like there's not one set standard way to have played disciplined.

885
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 2: Kind of all depends on what you do better, Like

886
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: there's been a lot of guys. I think the Hovier

887
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 2: Buys breakout years ago is my favorite example of this

888
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 2: where he was like there were like be more patient,

889
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 2: take make sure those swings andy pitches out of strike zone,

890
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 2: and that didn't work. They were like, all right, just

891
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 2: all right, so go fucking swing again, because what you

892
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 2: have to do is hit the ball, not wait, like

893
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: there's no reason for you to be waiting. Just go

894
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 2: out there and take your hacks. So I think that

895
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 2: I always think about like these guys finding their like

896
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 2: their medium, their medium, their stressafe safe medium. Play disciplines

897
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 2: always a push and pull, and right now is probably

898
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 2: a little bit more pushed than pull for Vanto's. He

899
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 2: just has to make sure that he's aggressive in the

900
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 2: right spots, which again he still has me so swing

901
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 2: yet pitches in the zone at a high rate. But

902
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 2: just maybe he's being a tiny bit too passive, scared

903
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 2: of chasing the ball as much as he was last year,

904
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 2: even though he was more successful, and he was chasing

905
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 2: the ball last year because he's being more selective. But

906
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: maybe being more selective not good for Mark Vinte. This

907
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 2: is like, this is this is why baseball is such

908
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 2: an insane sport. Is like you were swinging and missing

909
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 2: more last year, which was better I want you to

910
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 2: swing and missus, but not that it's better. It's just

911
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 2: better for you. Yes, what makes you the most comfortable.

912
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 2: It gives you the highest chance to do damage because

913
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 2: VI's Vianto's isn't. I mean, it would be nice if

914
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 2: he walked more, but he doesn't become the best player

915
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 2: he can be probably in the near term by walking more.

916
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 2: It's damage, just putting the bat in the ball and

917
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 2: getting it over the fence. That's how he's a great player.

918
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 2: That's his skill he has to do.

919
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: You mentioned it earlier, like Brent Rooker is a guy who,

920
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: if you look at it, he whiffs and strikes out

921
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: a ton, but he does the damage when he hits it.

922
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: And that's the same thing with like a guy even

923
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: like Michael Harris has like unsustainable whiff and chase rates

924
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: and walk rates. But you look back at the end

925
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: of the year and he has a great season every

926
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 1: single year. It hasn't hasn't slowed down one bit, so

927
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 1: so many as Yeah, but he's still good. He's still

928
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: very good.

929
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 3: It was good.

930
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: So it's like I think even Austin Riley at one

931
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: point was like this too, and even Matt Olsen at

932
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: so I think last year got a little bit too passive.

933
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: I think at a least is a great example is

934
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: at least taking hacks. Just start taking hacks. And maybe

935
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: that's the thing for Mark Viento's. Maybe that's just as

936
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 1: a general and to put a nice bow on this

937
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: is like I just want to see them that's be

938
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: a little more aggressive right now, because I feel like

939
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: there's a lot of passiveness when these guys can all hit,

940
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 1: they're all really good hitters.

941
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 2: Well, here's another thing about Vento's which probably plays into

942
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 2: this as well, just from having an amazing rookie season

943
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 2: like he did, pictures would be like, oh, we have

944
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 2: to be more careful with you ya. Last year he

945
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 2: saw forty nine percent of pitches and strikes on. This

946
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 2: year is forty four percent of pitches and strike zone.

947
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 2: So he's seeing fewer pitches and strikes on than the

948
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 2: major league average that.

949
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: Was taking them more, which is good.

950
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 2: Yes, he's taking them more, but again still so maybe

951
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 2: then it is this is just this is the moment

952
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 2: for Viento's. This is why there's such things as sophomore slump.

953
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 2: Again in air quotes, because like you will you are

954
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 2: now being pitched more carefully. You were not sneaking up

955
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 2: on anybody anymore. Like you have to find a way

956
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 2: to get a better pitch to hit, possibly later in

957
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 2: the bat than you were getting last year, and find

958
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 2: ways to drive more difficult pitches to hit. That was

959
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 2: the big thing with Julie Rodriguez overvill last year. They

960
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 2: were like, we're not giving you a pitch to hit. Ever,

961
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 2: every single pitch is going to be either on your

962
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 2: hands up and in or low and away diving at

963
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,439
Speaker 2: a strike zone. It's up to you to take these

964
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 2: at bats and let wait for us to make a mistake.

965
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 2: And that's kind of probab where Vanto's getting too now too.

966
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, And last thing I'll say about Vivento's for this episode,

967
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: it was good weekend for him overall, much better. Fine,

968
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,240
Speaker 1: we're much better play than we've seen in the previous

969
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: couple series. So well, that's u to look forward to

970
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: as we had to freezing cold Minnesota.

971
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 2: Last thing we got talking about Jacob Wilson.

972
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: Oh, oh yeah, I forgot about that yet. That was

973
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: that was bizarre.

974
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, explained to the people what happened.

975
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: So Wan Soto hit a ground ball to Jacob Wilson.

976
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: I don't remember what ending it was, but early in

977
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: the game, and it was a routine play. Wan Soda

978
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 1: did not even slightly try to run out of the box,

979
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: which personally I don't give a shit about. I don't

980
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 1: care whatever, not that big of a deal. Jacob Wilson

981
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: held down to the ball very long, like almost squadruple

982
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: clutched it, and then made a horrible throw to first base.

983
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: If Soda had been busting, he's probably safe. But also

984
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: maybe Jacob Wilson doesn't hold the ball as long. And

985
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: the reason I say that is because Ron Darling, who

986
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: is pretty sharp with these things, really doesn't ever kind

987
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: of miss with the feel of things in games and

988
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 1: is happy to speak his mind. He felt that Jacob

989
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: Wilson purposely held on to that ball as long as

990
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: he did to make Wan Soda look like an idiot,

991
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: to kind of show him up a little bit about

992
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: how he wasn't running it out. Because Jacob Wilson fielded

993
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: this ball on the shortstop side of second base, close

994
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: to it, and by the time he threw it he

995
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: was in the second base beside the mat. So he

996
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: felt that Jacob Wilson held onto that ball as long

997
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: as he did to kind of make Wan Soda run

998
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: it out a little bit more, make him take a

999
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: couple more steps down to the base, kind of like

1000
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 1: an old school I don't want to say Jaco Wilson's

1001
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: a doucheba because I don't think that's the case, but

1002
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: like a little bit of like an asshole gamesmanship type thing,

1003
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: make him run it out, throw him out still because

1004
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: it's a routine play. And then there were more and

1005
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: more comments about it throughout the game by Ron by

1006
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: Gary You said, Keith Radd even made a mention of it.

1007
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: What did they know? Because it's crazy to the outsider.

1008
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: If you were watching, let's say, I don't know, a

1009
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: bad broadcast like Michael k and the Yankees, they would

1010
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: have never mentioned this and it would have gone by

1011
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: the wayside.

1012
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 2: I again, because not playing baseball at a very high level,

1013
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 2: I never I didn't think that that happened. But I

1014
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 2: believe when Ron says that, like when that happens. And

1015
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 2: then Jacob Wilson made the crazy catch on the Wan

1016
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 2: Soda line drive. A couple of things later, but then

1017
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 2: in the last inning, Jacob Wilson made an error at

1018
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 2: shortstop as the mess flag games are opening, and Ron

1019
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 2: let him have it. That's hard, Yeah, just going after

1020
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 2: him and again again, and just I will say, as

1021
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 2: far as this podcast goes, Jacob Wilson's your boy, Mark.

1022
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 2: That was your boys. Yeah, that was it that happened there.

1023
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 2: So it was just it was funny because it also

1024
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 2: seemed like there was a moment where Lindor did something

1025
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 2: similar when he feeled the grab ball shortstop too. He

1026
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 2: was almost kind of playing that little game of chicken.

1027
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 2: I don't know if I remember that was Wilson running

1028
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 2: or somebody else.

1029
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: I think you know it was Jacob. Wilson was small

1030
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: to him and he fielded it backhanded and immediately threw it,

1031
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: but he threw like a lollipop right to Pete's chest. Yeah,

1032
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: and Ron was like, I think Lindor might have been

1033
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 1: trying to send him a message of like, yeahuddy, here's

1034
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: how you handle this, Like yeah, it did.

1035
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 2: It did kind of feel like that too. It was

1036
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 2: also funny that after the A's won the only game

1037
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 2: they won this series, they made an OMG joke on

1038
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 2: their teams social account, which is funny for a few reasons. One,

1039
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if he's noticed, but Jose Lacy is

1040
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 2: not on the Mets anymore, so that's that's the kind

1041
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 2: of strange thing. But shade jose Lacy's he is starting

1042
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 2: for the Padres. Tree cronor Worth in the Al hit

1043
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 2: a big hit, a big two run double on Sunday,

1044
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 2: so he just still the outfield too.

1045
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 3: The other day.

1046
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, first ever game in left field, which is just

1047
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: an unbelievable thing that Padres did with their thirty year

1048
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 2: old veteran utility infielder. And then it's also weird that

1049
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: the A's would like do little little ghost like tongue

1050
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 2: in cheeked Twitter posts because they have not had the

1051
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 2: mensions on their Twitter account turned on for eighteen months

1052
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 2: now since they're since the massive losing season and the

1053
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 2: move to the official move to Las Vegas out of Oakland.

1054
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 2: So pretty crazy for a team to be talking shit

1055
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 2: from their official Twitter account. I guess that could be

1056
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 2: the media marvel this week and not allow anyone to

1057
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 2: go back into their.

1058
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 1: Mentions, no, no replies. It's the it's the weirdest run

1059
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 1: social media I've ever seen. But you tipped the cap

1060
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: to the intern that got to put out that tweet.

1061
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: They really thought long and hard about that.

1062
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 2: One, I guess, And I believe there was a picture

1063
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 2: of Jacob Wilson on that tweet, which makes it funnier.

1064
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. It's it's if we played them again,

1065
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 1: I think we find out a lot more. But we're

1066
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: not going to see the A's for the rest of

1067
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: the year, so I guess we'll find out next season.

1068
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 2: Unless we play them in the World Series.

1069
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess, unless we play in the World Series,

1070
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: which you know, I'd be happy to play them in

1071
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: the World Series.

1072
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 2: Also, funny thing is that this team beat the crap

1073
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 2: out of us last year. This season when the Mets

1074
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 2: season was getting bad in August before it got good again,

1075
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 2: when we had the little downturn before going out, West

1076
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 2: had like another less, little downstern. So maybe they kind

1077
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 2: of have a little Maybe they gotta have a little

1078
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 2: waggering gas against the Mets. So that's something to something

1079
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 2: keeping the tickler file for twenty twenty six against the A's.

1080
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: The tickler file. What's that?

1081
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 2: It's tickler file. It's like it's like a I don't know,

1082
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 2: it's like a phrase.

1083
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 3: It's the same.

1084
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: I thought that like, I thought you had some historical stuff.

1085
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 1: Maybe that was the college degree coming in play, and

1086
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know what you're talking about.

1087
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, the college was the Tickler file, Tickler saying, old

1088
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 2: man saying is one on one that was definitely part

1089
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 2: of my history curriculum. But it was Golf for all

1090
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: good series. Yeah, good one of the series, good stuff, good, happy,

1091
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 2: clean series, whenever, series of the year. You're going to

1092
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:26,280
Speaker 2: the playoffs.

1093
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: So I can't wait until the Mets actually play like

1094
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: really good baseball and be like, wow, this was amazing.

1095
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: Look at this team.

1096
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 2: Go because we do keep playing not very good teams. No,

1097
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 2: or at least team's not playing well. Now, that's how

1098
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 2: we're going to transition to the last thing we're gonna

1099
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 2: talk about. Here was a preview of the Twins series. Misso,

1100
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 2: Twins right now are playing not up to their standards,

1101
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 2: is how I will put it. So they, considering the

1102
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:48,479
Speaker 2: talent on their team, have had.

1103
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: A little bit of a shakeup too. I don't know

1104
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: if you saw this, but Rockaball Delly called out the

1105
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: team the other day. Jose Miranda. Jose Miranda, Yeah, Hose

1106
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: Miranda got sent down apparently it was not because of

1107
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: this play. I mean, he's been playing terrible. This guy

1108
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: gets called up. Outside of that time where he went

1109
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: ten for ten in a row, he does not play

1110
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 1: particularly well. Shout out Linn melwelm, Miranda, did you say

1111
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: that already?

1112
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 2: No, I didn't.

1113
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: That's his cousin, that's his real cousin. Swear that's his

1114
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 1: real way. Yeah.

1115
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 2: That man, that man. That man tarnished the nation with

1116
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 2: Miranda with the making of Hamilton the.

1117
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: Chang World's Great play.

1118
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 2: Unbelievable. Okay, you like you like Hamilton, I've seen it.

1119
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:23,760
Speaker 1: It was pretty good.

1120
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 2: Yes, And Hamilton is in the front of everything I

1121
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 2: love in this world, hip hop and hip hop and history.

1122
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm not gonna pretend like the songs are good.

1123
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: But you know, there's an editating watch. But where I

1124
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: was going with this is rockaball. Delly called out the

1125
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 1: team Jose Miranda was safe on a play at second base,

1126
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,240
Speaker 1: did not realize that he was safe, walked off the bag,

1127
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 1: got tagged out. Was a huge, huge turn of events

1128
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: for the Twins in their series. He got sent down

1129
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 1: that next day, So the Twins are in a bit

1130
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: of a free fall, which is kind of crazy to

1131
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: say this early in the season. I don't know if

1132
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: they went on Sunday, did they win.

1133
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 2: They played against the Tigers, they won five to one.

1134
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: Okay, so they are five and eleven coming into this game.

1135
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: There are I believe, tied for last place with the

1136
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: Chicago White Sox. Rockabaldelli's ass has to be on the

1137
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:08,879
Speaker 1: hot seat.

1138
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 2: It has to be.

1139
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: I don't know how long this guy can keep getting

1140
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: away with it. It's probably his team, weirdly has good players.

1141
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,760
Speaker 1: They're just all playing terrible, except for the city boy himself,

1142
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: Harrison Bader, who is by far been the best player

1143
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: on this team so far, which is funny.

1144
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 2: He's also been I mean, I don't know about that

1145
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 2: because he's a six A of the ops. He's also

1146
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 2: been playing he's been playing some left fields because they

1147
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 2: they're keeping Buyron Bucks in center. So that that's that's

1148
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 2: the state of the bottom of this Twins lineup right now,

1149
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 2: is that they are playing Harrison Bay They're in a

1150
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,720
Speaker 2: corner outfield spot to get his bat in the lineup,

1151
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 2: which is just insane. All right, Before we get going

1152
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 2: into more of this team, what are the pitching matchups

1153
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 2: for this upcoming series, we're seeing some very good pitchers

1154
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 2: from the Twins, because the pitchers the Twins do have

1155
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 2: very good starting rotation, and they're a team that I think,

1156
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 2: as Mets fans, any team that's going to be a

1157
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 2: buyer the deadline, you hope this team falls out of

1158
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 2: contention because they as a team that's transferring their ownership

1159
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 2: and have just have our cheap skates to begin with.

1160
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 2: They have a lot of great pieces to sell and

1161
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 2: I'd like to buy some of that. But Monday, seven

1162
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 2: forty Star Times in Minnesota, so slightly lay their games.

1163
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 2: Everyone be aware of that. As off Clay Holmes versus

1164
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 2: Joe Ryan major ace off. There two of the best

1165
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 2: strikeout k rates in the league. Yeah, Tuesday against seven forty,

1166
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 2: Tyler McGill versus Bailey Ober got the ace off. One

1167
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: of the tallest, tallest matchups right, Yeah, probably, I think

1168
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 2: it's six to seven versus six nine. This is too

1169
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 2: like power forwards going at it like this Olden This

1170
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 2: Nighties basketball on Tuesday Night and Wednesday, Mattine one ten

1171
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: Griffin Canning versus David Festa. David Festa, Seaton Hall Jersey Guy,

1172
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 2: shout out my Grandma's best friend. June her Son was

1173
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 2: one of his private instructors, and he was in high

1174
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 2: school and Jersey shout out June, shoutout June. June's a legend.

1175
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 2: But yeah, so we're gonna see three good pictures of

1176
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 2: this series, and we just got of hope that we

1177
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 2: can hit them because it's again, it's gonna be cold

1178
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 2: in Minnesota. The playing seven forty games in Minnesota in April,

1179
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 2: it's not that cool. Would really like to just see

1180
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 2: the offense get going. They'll put this Twins team in

1181
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 2: the dirt.

1182
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, honestly, they might just put Jose Seria

1183
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: on the il because it might be too cold for him.

1184
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: Even like it's gonna be freezing, there's no way that

1185
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: that guy likes the cold weather by any means. This

1186
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 1: team is again like Carls Kray is good. He's playing terribly,

1187
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: but he's good. This is like so the opposite of

1188
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: how I feel like when we played the Marlins, who

1189
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 1: legitimately stink, where I'm like, this guy's playing well, he stinks.

1190
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: Byron Buxton's a good baseball player, he's playing horribly. Trevor

1191
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: Larnick is a good hitter. He's playing horribly. We'll tell

1192
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: you guys to keep an eye on Matt Wallner. He's

1193
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 1: legitimately a good baseball player. He's a on base king,

1194
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 1: crazy power. He's someone's miss could look to break out

1195
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: this year, for sure.

1196
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 2: He's he's one of the Like I don't know, I

1197
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 2: feel like if Matt Walner had a better PR team

1198
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 2: that he would just be like a national sensation because

1199
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 2: he is just a big, strong dude who like runs

1200
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 2: pretty fast, had a cannon for an arm, and takes

1201
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 2: war hacks monster swings like. He will hit the ball

1202
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 2: aggressively hard, Like his power metrics on a per contact

1203
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 2: basis are up there with like sho Hey and judge

1204
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 2: John Carlos Stanton, but he swings and misses so much

1205
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 2: on a per swing basis they're getting back more like

1206
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 2: in the middle of the pack. He just takes such hacks.

1207
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 2: But again, like someone like Edward Julian who's come back

1208
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 2: up on this team, has a really slow approach. It's

1209
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 2: not only starting to hit a little bit. They got

1210
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 2: they uncovered the ghost of ty Franz, and he's actually

1211
00:44:58,440 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 2: getting He's kind of he's kind of the one guy

1212
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 2: holding the lambs together, Ryan Jeffers's big physical tools, he

1213
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 2: hasn't gotten to going yet. Brooks Ley just can't really

1214
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 2: kind of twist it in get get really good. It's

1215
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 2: just as Willie Castro hits them carve the order for

1216
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 2: this team sometimes every position on the field runs wild.

1217
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 2: It's a is, pound for pound, one of the strangest

1218
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 2: teams in all baseball with elite pitchering.

1219
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: Because also their bullpen is crazy as well. Yeah, like

1220
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: now the Mets need to score on the starters because

1221
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: it is going to be extremely difficult to score on

1222
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: this bullpen top to bottom, just dogs in every single spot.

1223
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 2: Also, such a shame that this Twins team very blatantly

1224
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: has three really good starting pitchers I guess three really

1225
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,240
Speaker 2: good starting pitchers and Pabo Lopez healthy between Lopez Ober

1226
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 2: and Joe Ryan. But now Lopez on the Ilfesta took

1227
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 2: his spot. They also have Zebbie Matthews is gonna come

1228
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 2: up at some point soon. Because there are other two

1229
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 2: starting pitchers Chris Pattick and Simon was Richardson have fucking

1230
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 2: nothing and of course we miss both of them this series.

1231
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 2: We have to get the three good ones and not

1232
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 2: the two bad ones.

1233
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: Even missing Pablo Lopez. We own him weirdly enough for

1234
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: some reason, the Met's always hit Pabolo lopezge that's future

1235
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: Met Pablo Lopez. But again, there are a lot of

1236
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: exciting relievers in this bullpen and John Durant in the back.

1237
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: He's he's the closest thing to Mason Miller for any

1238
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: other reliever in the league. Yeah, throw was one hundred

1239
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 1: miles an hour with a wicked splinker. He's having good

1240
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: bounced back season.

1241
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 2: Griffin Jacks stuff wise, one of the best relievers in baseball,

1242
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 2: has not been as sharp this year. He throws like

1243
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 2: an eighty seven mile an hour sweeper. That's ferocious. He's

1244
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 2: He's got a crazy story too. He was a member

1245
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 2: of I think it was the Air Force Academy, and

1246
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 2: he was he got bailed out by being able to

1247
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 2: play in the Olympics, prolonging as baseball career, but his

1248
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 2: first few years the minor leagues of the Twins, he

1249
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,240
Speaker 2: was like going back and forth and performing his service

1250
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 2: and like leaving this leaving the season in July and

1251
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 2: then coming back to the team. It was kind of ridiculous.

1252
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,439
Speaker 2: Got to the it was just he's a crazy story,

1253
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 2: really good reliever. Cole Sans has some stuff up and down.

1254
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 2: Hariolkula Same Thing has some stuff up and down. Everyone's

1255
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 2: favorite slow toss and Lefty Danny Koulam. I've always talked

1256
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 2: about this podcast for he will be a met at

1257
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 2: some point in his career. He's got a bunch of junk.

1258
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 2: Louis Varland has good stuff but can never really put

1259
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 2: it together. This team is way too good to be

1260
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 2: this bad. So I'm hoping that we don't get the

1261
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 2: positive aggression these next couple of days.

1262
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, please just give us like the bad twins that

1263
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: have been sleeping for the last five years, because that's

1264
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: just how they've been rolling.

1265
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, just finding ways to blow it. But I think

1266
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 2: that's all we got.

1267
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's all we got.

1268
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 2: Do we have?

1269
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: Do we have? Frankie Pepper's buying a chance? Do you

1270
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: give us a little something here to wrap up the weekend?

1271
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 1: I'm checking, No Frankie, all right, No frank busy Sunday

1272
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: for Frankly no Sunday. And you know what is a

1273
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: little bit later in the day too, like he might

1274
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: he might might be busy. It's palm Sunday. Shout to

1275
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: everybody out there or celebrate to.

1276
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 2: That might making a nice bowl. And as Frankie, he's

1277
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 2: always making Bowland.

1278
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 1: The Guy's ready to go. Anything else we got to

1279
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: talk about.

1280
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 2: That's really what we got. We talked about Siri. We

1281
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 2: mentioned the guy's rehab assignments. We did we did the

1282
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 2: big Prospect episode that came out Saturdays, So if you

1283
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 2: guys didn't see that, we just went through the first

1284
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,959
Speaker 2: two weeks of play for basically every single interesting player

1285
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 2: the Mets minor league system, thirty five forty man, it's

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Speaker 2: a very dense prospect talk. We got some good data,

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Speaker 2: we got some good reports, we got we went really

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Speaker 2: really deep on a lot of Mets prospects, a lot

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Speaker 2: of really exciting stuff in that episode.

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Speaker 1: I think that's it, all right. Thank you guys for listening,

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Speaker 1: Thank you for watching. Make sure you subscribe to The

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Speaker 1: You can follow James on Twitter and YouTube at James

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Speaker 1: Schiano and I'm draft deck Mark with the c thank

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Speaker 1: you guys for listening and watching. We will catch you all.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. At some point during the week we

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Speaker 1: got two more episodes to drop soon. Just be following

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Speaker 1: and subscribe.

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Speaker 2: Peace out, peace Oudeca's cometes