WEBVTT - Mr. Cheeks 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:02.600 This is cut to It with Steve Smith Senior at 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:08.879 production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:12.200 Steve Smith Senior and I'm John And this is cut 0:00:12.240 --> 0:00:16.600 to it. Good do it, cud do it. Let's getting 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:19.919 down to do it. Good do it. We asked the 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:23.880 questions you always want to know, but no one ever asked, 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:29.840 let's cut to it. You ain't heard about it, then 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:38.840 we're about to let you know. It's all I've never 0:00:39.280 --> 0:00:44.400 ever ever wish another man, have you been? Let's do it? 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:47.599 All right, man? So here we are again backstage, Joe, 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:50.320 what's up? Man? What's going on? Fellas? I love having that. 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:55.360 I love when you are on the mike something. It's 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:58.960 always yeah, it's always something. He got something cooked up. 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:03.120 You better believe everybody listens to this show understands there's 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:06.280 some story. He comes when backstage comes up. You know, 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:10.920 we got some diabolical scheme, some kind of planning, something important. Gina, 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:14.440 I'm talking the other day. And as we migrate into 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:16.840 this podcast, once we get past the banter and get 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:19.840 into it and who we're talking to, all this will 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:23.119 tie together and uh, you know, just music. I mean 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:27.320 we all we all love music. Whatever whatever kind you like, 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:32.400 whatever style genre singer we all like. And backstage you 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:35.319 were colectic too, Man, I go back so so so 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:38.039 you know back in the day when when backstage Joe 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:40.280 might have been a little bit athletic. You can google it. 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:46.840 So every every game before I stepped out on the 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:50.120 mound when I was pitching, was Eric being rock him 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:58.880 microphone thing? Now that like? And that was obviously after Yes, 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:03.200 it was back to old banter folks. Yes, there's there's 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:05.840 a lot of tie ins here. But so just like 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:07.640 as I look across that, you guys, you know G 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:12.560 Steve like, you know old school, you know hip hop, rap, 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:14.840 R and B whatever you like. You know when you 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:18.359 start looking back, we all know the Ice Cubes, the 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:23.440 Dr Dre's outcast, you know Eric b Outcast, Uh, you 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:28.160 know Beastie Boys, Flavor Flame, Public Enemy another one without 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:32.880 a pause, look look at you. So with that being said, 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:37.480 I wanted to test my two brothers rap game knowledge. 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:40.079 I'm about to fail. So you don't you don't have 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:42.480 any HIPOPN know what it's about yet, right, and you 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:45.720 might be good. M I know my limitations. You know 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:48.880 your limitations. So what is it like West coast only 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:51.399 because you're a West coast. But I just I don't. 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:53.880 I don't keep up with it as much you're talking 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:57.560 about current stuff or just just you know, I know 0:02:57.760 --> 0:03:01.440 all those I don't oh the old school, I don't 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:04.280 necessarily know the names anyway, Go ahead, don't you don't 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:08.960 know names? He just dismissed me. Proceed. Look, so I 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:11.760 got five questions here, so we just don't drag on 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:15.400 our audience too long. Um, each question is gonna have 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:19.440 three rap names in it. One of them is going 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:23.919 to be real ones I've made up. Now this is 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:30.040 racist because he made him up. He made them up. 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:36.080 Let me check off MC white. So my disclaimer on 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:40.200 this is I made these names up. Help you know 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:43.920 this is this? This is me. So anybody out there 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:47.360 with your YouTube rap name that I might not have 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:50.480 seen online, I don't mean any disrespect. I'm not stealing it. 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:52.720 I don't want to go Instagram live and get beat 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:56.440 up because this is your real rap names up. No way, 0:03:56.560 --> 0:04:01.040 So I hope they're not so again, three rap names. 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:07.240 One is real? Have an answer? Yeah? Yeah, we don't. Nobody, 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:10.960 I mean yeah, we don't. All right, So question one, 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:24.200 Crispy Kream number two d J d Q or Burger Buddha, 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:27.840 Which Chris, which one is real? Which one is which? 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:33.279 Which one is a real rap name? Mr? Smith, Burger 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:37.720 Buddha And I'll go with what was the second option, 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:40.360 d J d Q. I'll go with d J d Q. 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:45.440 You're both wrong. There's a rapper called Crispy Kream. How 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:51.760 has like I don't know about spelling. I'm just ethnicity 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:55.040 Crispy Kreme. I don't know about ethnicity. I just looked up. 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:58.800 There's really a rapper named Chris Crispy it was his 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:04.359 I'm guessing his ethnicity is not the color shade I am. 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:08.240 There's a lot of donut options out there. Yeah, they know. 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:11.960 I hope there's no brother named Krispy Kreme J Crew. 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:15.680 Oh he just changed his name. He's now Froggy Fresh. 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:19.080 I'm on Google. Oh that's a that's a non brother 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:23.839 and he and he has I think a marijuana tattoo 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:26.720 on his chest. It's not that gave it away. I 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:32.760 don't know what that is, but or whatever. It's still one. Yeah, alright, 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:48.000 cool question too, all right? Choice one backsplash p Choice 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:56.920 Choice number two, Sugar Tongue Slim, what go ahead? And 0:05:57.160 --> 0:06:01.920 choice number three is the grind Boy, the grind Boys. 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:08.960 That's you're both wrong again. That's flash pace, Sugar tongue Slim. Okay, well, 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:18.520 I'm glad that home depot doing some repairs. Sugar tongue, Slim, 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:22.440 look him up. Sugar tongue, Swim. That's it's sugar tongue. 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:25.040 He probably believes he's fired with it. That's why he 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:28.400 came with. That is a brother. Huh. He abbreviates sometimes 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:33.960 sts what sometimes? How you do it? Sts? Alright? Ready, 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:36.680 I know people, so right now, if I add up, 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:45.599 y'all score zero. I said sugar, I said sugar. No, man, 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:47.880 you said the grind Boy. Y'all were both like y'all 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:52.000 won the lottery. Y'all were excited about the grind Boy. 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:57.360 That's backstage Joe making it up. Bash. I'm gonna trying 0:06:57.360 --> 0:06:59.040 to get through this one, all right, let's go alright. 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:06.760 Third question, Yeah, photo fresh f t z Ice. What 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:13.040 or the last one? Fruit Kwan hope A fruit. Um, 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:15.240 I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with fruit quin. 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:22.800 That's real, Steve. What was the first one? The first photo? 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:27.040 Fresh with the f it's fruit kwan. Oh, I'm on 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:33.440 the boats. Fruit kuan fruit kwan say it with a 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:38.320 what's his first name? I gotta, I gotta where did 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:41.480 he grasp fruit kum from? What's this? What's his first 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:44.960 what's what's his birth? It's one word fruit and kwan 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:54.480 k w a n what's you spell? Kwan? Qualm like 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:58.440 hit the qualm? Not that he's got. He's got, He's 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:03.160 got a couple of albums life rightness? What's his real name? Fruit? 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:10.480 To me? His real name is Arnold Hamilton's move on next, 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:13.640 next round, So right now, g got a point. Steve's 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:19.520 just happy to be here. Next one participation That little crampy, 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:25.000 little crampy little crapper the rapper is that? Is that 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:27.720 a fool? Is that the full thing? Or a little poopy? 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:31.880 I know some I know a dude named Poopy. I'm 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:33.599 gonna I'm gonna go a little poopy. I'm gonna go 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:37.680 a little poopy correct little man on board because I 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:42.080 know that I know somebody whose son name is Poopy 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:44.559 and so god given name, I mean parents given name. 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:46.959 Are they called him? That dude name is Poopy? He 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:51.079 called we called them poopy? Yeah, call call Hank the 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:54.560 Sun name is Poopy, but that's all I know him, 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:59.240 is Poopy. Really, you got a lot of stuff on 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:04.720 Poopy does poopy dot com. That's a different website now 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:11.680 that kind of thing. Don't do that podcast. Last one. 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:17.520 DJ Silky Chocolate, Oh you made that one up. I 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:28.600 can tell you. I got DJ Peanut Butter Wolf, Peanut 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:38.760 Butter Wolf or d J Smooth Caramel, the Light Skin player. Oh, 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:44.920 that's real. It's Peanut butter Wolf. I got you all 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:47.600 with the Light Skin players. Like I sold it. We 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:50.640 were don't take de bait. You tried to suck into 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:56.839 two lights game Brothers Step that was his rap name, 0:09:57.200 --> 0:09:59.600 Light Skin. He's all excited about it. We felt seen 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:08.480 when you said when representation. So as I knew we're 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:11.440 this upcoming episode, I'll just started. I'm like, what is this? 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:18.400 I there? Man? I all right? Who we got coming 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:21.160 up on the cut to It podcast, We've got Mr Cheeks, 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:24.560 co founder of the legendary hip hop group Lost Boys. 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:27.040 He's also a solo artist with four albums of his 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:30.600 own and he's a native of Jamaica, Queens, New York. 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:39.880 Mr Cheeks on the Cut to It Podcast Cut to 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:43.600 It no question. Appreciate you having your boy LV and 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:46.400 the building. You know, Let's get it, Let's get it, 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:49.040 let's get it. Hey man, Well, our first segment is 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:52.640 called get iced Up. It's our version of Icebreakers. We 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:55.080 just gotta get We gotta set the scene for you. 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:57.600 So there may be follow ups, there may not be. 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:00.520 We're just gonna ask you some random questions. Just it everything, 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:03.200 go and get the blood circulation. Gotta get you iced up, 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:05.000 So SMOTHI go ahead and give him the first one, 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:11.880 first rap song single. You remember when cassettes used to 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:18.240 come out, So first cassette that you purchased or bought 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:24.440 at the local barber shop, first hip hop cas set 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:28.640 I brought, well, first um joined our guy was chubb Rock. 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:31.360 You know what I'm saying. Chubb Rock was the first 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:36.520 influence of Yeah, first record I bought, like, oh yeah, 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:41.480 you know chub Rock. Uh see that you know that record? 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:48.679 Do it do it again? That was all right, I'm 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:52.880 gonna tell you online ahead. Three is the magic number 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:58.480 by okay, no question, no question. That's you bought with 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:03.439 your own money. Yeah, okay, yeah, you remember singles. That's 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:05.440 what I'm saying. It's it wasn't the first when you 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:08.280 heard it's just the first one you bought, put it 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:10.480 in the record player, I mean put it in a 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:15.280 cassette player. Three. Then the first one I ever would 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:17.840 have been, uh, the first thing I have a ball with, stuggish, 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:22.680 ruggish bone, the first one I bought. You already got reminiscent. Man. 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:27.880 All right, your favorite TV show? You know, TV is 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:31.040 bananas right now? So any TV shows you really into 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:36.040 right now? Oh? Right now? Oh yeah, the Blacklist is crazy? 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:39.160 Like that's when that is a real good one called 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:44.000 O D that's hard. I haven't got into either. Well 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:47.280 first eight all day, big fan of that. It's crazy, 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:50.160 but I love I love the drama. On Sunday about 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:57.000 seven or eight. I like watching Um Supermarket Sweet. You 0:12:57.000 --> 0:13:00.360 can watch the old one on Netflix. We got ninety 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:03.880 threes backstage. Want the show. I'm really digging right now. 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:10.000 Life was Life below zero? Oh yeah, that's that's hard. 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:12.079 I was just looking at this world of my mother's 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:15.280 checking out this this morning, she's going through the ill snowstorm, 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:19.320 and had to I was a second that that's crazy. 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:22.160 All right, let's go and get inside track. Uh, what 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:27.440 Shorge do you hate doing? How Shorge just cleaning the 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:30.560 dishes that they leave in the seat, You know that 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:33.520 that's mainly, might might be other things, ain't nothing, how 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:36.000 just cleaning the dishes When I wake up in the morning, 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:37.680 I don't want to see all that death. Well, you know, 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:39.320 we got the dishwasher, but you could throw that in 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:42.040 there too. To tell me, she was like, we don't 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:48.320 need a dishwashing washing. Yeah, that's what they did, all right. 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:54.160 Last one, what's your hitting talent? My hidden talent? Oh yeah, 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:59.480 breakdancing kid, let's go um get well. I used to 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:01.000 get my dad so happy. But you know, I do 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:04.240 my regular two steps now. But back in the days, man, 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:07.720 I was on the linoleum and let's I do had spend. 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:09.920 Last time, I had a battle with my son. He's 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:12.160 sixteen now. I did a battle of him and breakdan 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:14.640 because they didn't believe it because I showed him, showed 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:17.199 him a B street all right. He thought he thought 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:19.440 he was knew he was doing. And you know, the 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:22.520 dudes nowadays dance like ladies. Sometimes they're the same like 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:24.720 we used to go. So I'm trying to tell him, listen, 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:26.040 that's how we used to do it. Yeah, I mean, 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:28.760 but oh I did it has spending new You already 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:31.640 know I need gate the whole day. Next day, you 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:39.680 know I needed spending up. Of god, I was over 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:47.840 forty crazy man, oh man, you know what. I actually 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:51.840 have a Mr. Cheek story. So there's no way he's 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:54.680 gonna remember this. But back in I think it had 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:57.880 to be two thousand and one, uh huh. Here in 0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:01.760 North Carolina there's a big called super Jams and Greensboro. 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:06.200 Mr Cheeks was the co headline. This is back during 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:09.640 the lights, camera action stage or whatever. And so I'm 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:14.800 sixteen maybe, and me and my friends were out and 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:18.240 in Greensboro there's this main road called at that point 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:23.080 in time, it was called City and so people you know, 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:25.880 going back and forth leaving the coliseum, and so we're just, 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:28.400 you know, parking lot, doing what you do because we 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:31.760 can't get in anywhere with sixteen. And so we're sitting there, 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:34.680 sitting on top of our cars, watching everyone go by. 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:38.240 And the limo pulls up and the window rolls down 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:42.960 and some stuff rolled out. I don't know what it was. 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:46.520 I wasn't known enough back then, and everything comes out. Fall. 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:54.880 It was fall. It was fall because it was so 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:58.040 so the fog rolls out and and we see Mr 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:00.480 Cheeks and we don't get excited. Is like four or 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:04.000 five us, we're like, oh, Mr Cheeks. So we're like, hey, 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:06.800 we're the party at Mr Cheeks. This is Mr cheeks response, 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:12.800 he ride up the block, mother, and we all are like, yo, 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:16.400 Mr Chicks, what's up? What's up with what? And he 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:21.360 rolled the window back up and dipped on this man 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:23.080 like he didn't even tell us what. He just said, 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:31.480 ride up the block. So at sixteen true story, first interact. 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:35.400 That is exactly what he said. He said, ride up 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:39.000 the block, mother, roll the window back up, so basically 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:42.760 trying to tell you you make your own party, welcome 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:47.720 through the block. And we're like, yo, he just rolled 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:50.360 up the windows. But that's that is my first interaction 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:53.840 with the celebrity. Anything like that, Like that story is 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:55.720 edged in my mind. And when we were getting ready 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:57.440 for this, like I'm texting my friends, like you remember 0:16:57.440 --> 0:16:59.840 that time we saw Mr Cheeks and roll the window 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:04.080 that everyone died laughing. That was it was, so this 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:06.960 is the full moment. That's pretty cool. This is really cool. 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:09.280 Well she got that's how I got my first start 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:10.760 in the game too, And she ain't gave me one 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:13.520 of those. I went, I made my way into the 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:16.600 little More East. Yeah, I'm saying down back in the days, 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:20.280 back when it was like eight and eighty nine, eight seven, 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:23.919 shanned down by Law all that. It was just popping 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:26.520 off on that all of that that world, man, you 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:28.240 know what I'm saying. So I went there and I 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:31.280 went just to see if she shan't nice for photographing 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:37.560 like that. Not that shame, but let's go, you know 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:39.560 what I mean. But I just knew hip hop was 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:42.440 real right there. You know what I said. Oh man, 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:45.880 that's crazy. Good stories. Alright, cool, So let's get into 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:47.800 it time. You know you already said it. But I 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:49.600 love to always ask. We already start off with this, 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:52.680 And where are you from? Your place you call your hometown, 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:56.960 no doubt Among towns South Jamaica, Queens, South bows On 0:17:57.119 --> 0:18:00.399 Park one one thirty second Street one to you have it, 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:03.200 no doubt about it. Shouts to the Kellys and all 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:06.440 of that. You know what I'm saying. My grandfather, grandmother, well, 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:09.080 they gave him New Orleans, baby. You know what I'm saying. 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:11.919 How we got to New York is a long story, 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:14.560 but I can. I can bring it down. Grandpap slapped 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:17.880 the white lady and got us out of town. I bean, yeah, 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:23.360 especially back then, that to make it relocate. Yeah, yes, 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:27.280 matter what time, that don't matter what time of a year. 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:30.480 That's right there. Yeah, that's that's that's run for your 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:35.200 life right here. Yeah, established in uh Queens, New York. 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:38.440 Had a few of had a few beauty salons out 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:42.159 in Brooklyn, Red Hook, Brooklyn. You know what I'm saying. 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:46.439 And uh, my grandfather and grandmother has um nine kids, 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:48.800 seven girls, two boys, you know what I mean. And 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:52.920 my mom's is dying. And she raised me as a 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:55.760 single moms of course, well not of course, but you know, 0:18:56.720 --> 0:18:58.439 it came it came to be like that, you know, 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:01.439 and she was hard working hold us down. I got 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:06.199 I got um uh one sister, three brothers, you know, 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:10.159 and I'm a grand pops and all of that. You know, 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:13.600 I've got two grandkids and all of that. So oh yeah, 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:16.120 I'm just from South Jamaica, Queens. I made my mark 0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:17.920 in the game with the Lost Boys. I'm the lead 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:19.920 artists of the hip hop group Lost Boys. You know 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:22.080 what I'm saying. We've got some joints on our belt 0:19:22.119 --> 0:19:25.760 from music made me high to clap your hands to 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:29.600 like Renee uh Lex School's Beamings and Ben's you know 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:33.159 lights camera action. I got a few joints under my 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:37.239 belt and yeah, I represent South Jamaica queens all day. 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:40.680 Every day we have to take a break and the 0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:43.800 morning thing, we gotta pay some bills. You got checks. 0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:51.000 I love cut to It and I love it even 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:55.439 more when you download us and subscribe, and you can 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:57.960 follow us on social media too, Smithie, where where at? 0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:02.880 That's act? Cut to It on Instagram? What about Twitter? At? 0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:07.040 Cut to It? Facebook? Cut to It featuring Steve Smith singr? 0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:10.520 What about online? And you can follow us at cut 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:13.720 to It podcast dot com where you can buy merch 0:20:14.119 --> 0:20:17.120 and you can subscribe to us wherever you listen to podcasts. 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:21.160 I got all my answers questions. Um, yeah, I got 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:24.560 all my questions answered. That's what I'm here for, a brother, 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:29.040 cut to a podcast dot Com. So growing up in 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:33.400 Jamaica queens, I mean it's kind of a loaded question, 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:36.560 but I'll ask it because I grew up in l A. 0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:38.320 I'm from l A and it helped me and hurt 0:20:38.320 --> 0:20:41.919 me at times, depending back. So how did how did 0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:46.480 it growing up at Jamaica Queens help you and hurt 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:50.879 you as a kid because you're a grandfather now so 0:20:50.960 --> 0:21:01.320 you wisdom, you don't get the tooth. I'm yeah, oh yeah, 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:04.800 Queen's helping me. And um, well, like you say, like 0:21:05.359 --> 0:21:07.920 I'm from Queens. So it wasn't like it was a 0:21:08.000 --> 0:21:10.320 really major like in the in the music well in 0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:12.040 the music game and hip hop came and things like 0:21:12.080 --> 0:21:14.720 that to like ll co J freaking frag and on 0:21:15.000 --> 0:21:17.480 you know, Mikey D and things like that. Well, I'm 0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:19.440 just thinking of people up the top of my neighborhood 0:21:19.480 --> 0:21:21.840 and things that made the Queens made me want to 0:21:21.880 --> 0:21:24.680 be a rapper from from Queens because Queens always getting 0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:28.120 you on though, right, So being from Queens has made 0:21:28.160 --> 0:21:30.399 me strong as farther as like get at let's get 0:21:30.480 --> 0:21:31.920 at it, you know what I'm saying, as far as 0:21:32.000 --> 0:21:34.480 like yo, hold up, there ain't nothing sweet about Queens 0:21:34.520 --> 0:21:36.680 and say Queens Niga, you know what I'm saying. And 0:21:37.440 --> 0:21:40.200 we go through some sometimes soup just like any every borough, 0:21:40.320 --> 0:21:42.280 any other state, any anywhere, you know what I'm say, 0:21:42.280 --> 0:21:44.520 any of the hood, and we just that that just 0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:45.960 made us want to be like that though. You know 0:21:46.000 --> 0:21:50.040 what I'm saying, um just did did not disrespect, but 0:21:50.119 --> 0:21:52.520 not to really respect. We needed like so we have 0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:54.600 to make going way and being from Queens made you 0:21:54.640 --> 0:21:56.359 want to do that. Anyway you go. You know what 0:21:56.359 --> 0:21:58.480 I'm saying. You're from Queens. You go to Hall and 0:21:58.520 --> 0:21:59.920 you go to the Brooklyn, you go to the Brown. 0:22:00.240 --> 0:22:02.480 You gotta show yours and something pop off. You know 0:22:02.480 --> 0:22:04.520 what I'm saying, Because I done some niggas and queens, 0:22:04.600 --> 0:22:06.720 but we came, We came in the game and we 0:22:07.080 --> 0:22:10.199 earned our key from all of that. And that's just 0:22:10.240 --> 0:22:12.159 what it was like Lors Spoils before these rappers. You 0:22:12.200 --> 0:22:14.080 know what I'm saying. We have to scuffle our way 0:22:14.119 --> 0:22:16.359 into the game or the streets and make our name. No, 0:22:16.760 --> 0:22:19.080 you know what I'm saying. We just want to wrap 0:22:19.119 --> 0:22:21.720 and ship like that and earn our key. So whatever 0:22:21.720 --> 0:22:23.720 it toothing to do that, we did that. So it's 0:22:23.800 --> 0:22:29.399 it's interesting playing in sports. You know, there's summer camps, 0:22:30.480 --> 0:22:36.679 there's high school j V. Right, there's Little League Pop Warner, 0:22:36.880 --> 0:22:43.879 you get coached. There is no farm system in in wrap, 0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:46.800 there is no pop, there is no there's no developmental lead. 0:22:46.880 --> 0:22:49.960 There's no developmental there's no like you know you, Hey, 0:22:50.280 --> 0:22:52.480 I'm gonna sign no Blue Gerard on how to be 0:22:52.520 --> 0:22:54.320 a better you know, how to be a rap rap game. 0:22:54.359 --> 0:23:00.240 Ain't gotta au right right, no doubt. Yeah, was the 0:23:00.359 --> 0:23:05.240 process like for you individually? Because everybody has a different story. 0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:09.480 It's like this. I was in high school. I was 0:23:09.480 --> 0:23:12.600 in John Adams High School playing for the junior varsity 0:23:12.640 --> 0:23:18.200 football team and my brother signed. Uh what position? I was? 0:23:18.240 --> 0:23:26.199 Running back? Kick work? Yeah, footwork. I was first. I 0:23:26.240 --> 0:23:29.520 scored the first touchdown john John Adams High School back 0:23:29.560 --> 0:23:32.320 in the eighties, six or something like that. What was it? 0:23:34.480 --> 0:23:36.400 I don't know. I really know the places my brother. 0:23:36.560 --> 0:23:38.880 My brother used to be the half back, so musr 0:23:38.960 --> 0:23:43.000 polam over knocked them down. Hey, just doing it man, 0:23:43.200 --> 0:23:45.280 But it's one night I caught that concussion. It was 0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:52.000 over because you noticed he said I was JV here. 0:23:52.040 --> 0:23:56.520 He said, none about arsen I don't know bay Side. 0:23:56.720 --> 0:23:59.720 If you knew about New York football. Day signed high school? 0:23:59.800 --> 0:24:03.880 Was you know what I'm saying. No Niggers came over 0:24:03.920 --> 0:24:06.920 there and showed me some work. I was like, oh, ship, 0:24:07.200 --> 0:24:13.280 but but football that maybe you want to rap though, 0:24:13.320 --> 0:24:16.800 I was like them years. I was like, um, it 0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:20.200 was like heavy ding the boys. So on Pepper, Oh man, 0:24:20.240 --> 0:24:22.080 they that's what you want to make you rap because 0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:25.040 it was remember so Pepper came through with that red 0:24:25.080 --> 0:24:28.160 BMW and all of that. I was like, I got 0:24:28.160 --> 0:24:29.560 to get it. I just wanted to be a part 0:24:29.560 --> 0:24:32.240 of that world. So, like you said, it ain't it ain't. 0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:35.320 Wasn't no school for that. So but we had we 0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:36.800 had a readings. We had to go. We have to 0:24:36.840 --> 0:24:38.760 go to the park James. You know what I'm saying, 0:24:38.880 --> 0:24:40.840 the block parties. You have to go to the battles 0:24:41.040 --> 0:24:44.840 with Grandmasters Vic and like Spengee. You know what I'm saying. 0:24:44.840 --> 0:24:47.800 It was they was doing um you know, the pup 0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:49.600 jams ship. So they give you the mic if you 0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:52.280 was hot enough, they give you the mike and um 0:24:52.280 --> 0:24:56.119 from this day on, you know Fragile starred Onyx. Yeah, 0:24:56.560 --> 0:24:58.240 that's my main man. We grew up. We was the 0:24:58.320 --> 0:25:01.359 Niggas and queens. We was the nigga was holding it down. 0:25:01.640 --> 0:25:04.880 And another dude from our herd name p I legendary. 0:25:04.920 --> 0:25:07.240 But um, that's where I got it from. Man going 0:25:07.240 --> 0:25:10.119 to arm school and after the holidays. You know, Rock 0:25:10.200 --> 0:25:12.760 Kemmen and Big Daddy came up, come out with a record, 0:25:13.200 --> 0:25:16.640 and then Queens Niggers compared. You know Rock I made 0:25:16.760 --> 0:25:18.600 from Queens, but Queens didn't though he was a Queens. 0:25:18.600 --> 0:25:20.399 There let's go. But that's how are you right? So 0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:23.320 we would we would compared Rock kem the kame you know, 0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:25.520 all of that came about. But you know, just when 0:25:25.560 --> 0:25:28.040 your work played together from a kid LLL COO, J 0:25:28.600 --> 0:25:31.680 I'm bad and all of that, like you wanted to know. 0:25:31.800 --> 0:25:34.240 I learned that, Like I just wanted to learn, right, 0:25:34.560 --> 0:25:37.119 be the illest writer or the illest lyricists or whatever, 0:25:37.240 --> 0:25:39.920 and that I could. But you know what I'm saying, Um, 0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:42.159 that's where it came about. That's the school you go to. 0:25:42.280 --> 0:25:45.240 You little to different games like the Gavin out in 0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:48.720 New Orleans. How can I be down down in Atlanta? 0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:50.280 You know, it was a bunch of things that all 0:25:50.320 --> 0:25:53.200 the Rappids go with the conventions and all of that. 0:25:53.200 --> 0:25:54.920 That's how I did it though, with all of that 0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:59.280 going on as you are moving up in the battle 0:25:59.359 --> 0:26:05.399 game and all stuff. Yeah, you got you Mr Cheeks 0:26:05.400 --> 0:26:09.480 the Lost Boys. But I want to know what were 0:26:09.520 --> 0:26:13.480 some of the names that never made the menu. When 0:26:13.520 --> 0:26:18.280 y'all were thinking about y'all your names like Lost Boys, Mr. 0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:20.880 The Lost Boys about Yeah, I have the Lost Boys 0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:22.760 come about? And what was some of the failed names 0:26:22.760 --> 0:26:25.800 that y'all were like, No, we can't have that name. Oh, 0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:28.000 we didn't really had too many failed names. We just 0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:30.800 grew up out of the names. Really. Yeah, I tell 0:26:30.840 --> 0:26:33.960 you from from from a nigga who was in aigger 0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:37.840 because it was it was in a nigger. That's who 0:26:37.880 --> 0:26:39.919 was a State fresh crew. You know what I'm saying. 0:26:40.280 --> 0:26:42.000 But when we've seen the movie The Lost Boys, that's 0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:43.840 what we thought you was. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, 0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:46.159 we was running around the hood like them niggers on 0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:50.960 the bike, stealing, causing younger, younger, younger days, you know, 0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:54.919 having fun, having fun, you know, I know, incriminate yourself 0:26:54.920 --> 0:27:01.440 on this recording. There's podcast this is a no indictment, Yeah, 0:27:01.440 --> 0:27:10.160 no intment podcast, door checks and alway, oh man. But now, 0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:11.639 we used to watch the movie a lot, and we 0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:13.520 used to feel like them, and we saw, you know, 0:27:13.920 --> 0:27:16.520 uh it's running around smoking weed. As we was making music. 0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:19.800 It was like we we kind of like the White Book, 0:27:20.000 --> 0:27:22.560 like the Lost Boys, the White Dudes, but we not know, 0:27:22.760 --> 0:27:24.959 you know, no vampires, but we come in later. That 0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:26.320 name we don't like when the sun is on. That 0:27:27.440 --> 0:27:29.960 just young dudes bugging back. But we threw the Z 0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:32.440 from the UH. We put the L S T B 0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:35.440 O Y Z because the Z meant the zooe. We 0:27:35.480 --> 0:27:38.640 was always in. It was always in channel zero and 0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:40.920 you know on our vibes as well. That's on our own, 0:27:41.160 --> 0:27:42.680 our own where we used to be in the back 0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:45.480 streets getting our hit again on music together. When we 0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:47.920 came from like uh summer school and all of that, 0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:51.440 it was a crazy time. So that's what we gotta. 0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:53.000 Really got it from the law school. Just put that 0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:54.879 Z on the back of that S and I just 0:27:54.920 --> 0:27:57.239 made it run and we just we did it. We 0:27:57.280 --> 0:27:59.359 had beef over that name with dudes and the Bronx 0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:02.840 and all that. For the Lost Boys came out standing, 0:28:03.000 --> 0:28:06.240 hard body, no doubt Lost Wards around the world. But 0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:08.600 you know, we have to definitely go hard to keep 0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:10.040 that name and be what it is. You know what 0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:13.600 I'm saying, y'all had to and your and your influence 0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:17.320 on the rap game is do you feel like sometimes 0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:20.440 it gets overlooked hell yeah, you already know. I get 0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:22.520 mad at niggers. I'll be like ya, hold up, I'll 0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:25.360 be seeing mad at pop joints. They don't never throw 0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:27.000 no low sport. And I'm like, your hold on, what's 0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:29.040 going on here? We ain't made no bankers. We got 0:28:29.119 --> 0:28:31.040 a catalog. I know there's a lot of people that 0:28:31.080 --> 0:28:34.679 be giving up mad prostitutes that I got two records, 0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:39.920 Steve Records were up right. They be saluting these dudes 0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:41.880 like they made joints. Y'all be like your hold on? 0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:44.200 Came We're still banging out a bay Man stop playing. 0:28:44.320 --> 0:28:46.040 But you know I ain't gonna know. I ain't got 0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:48.920 no problem with it. I'm just saying they will notice, 0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:50.600 you know what I'm saying. That's why I'm still at it. 0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:52.560 That's what I think. I'm still doing what I'm doing, 0:28:52.920 --> 0:28:54.680 So I'm still on the cut to it. Do it's 0:28:54.720 --> 0:28:59.200 now right here, you're here. But I find it fascinating 0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:02.280 because you meant a lot like the park jams, all 0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:04.680 of these things that were essential to the essence of 0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:07.440 hip hop as as a true and you were right 0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:10.040 there in the middle of it. Your uncle is also 0:29:10.160 --> 0:29:14.959 Jill Scott heron Gil Scott doubt talk a little bit 0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:17.400 about his influence to you and and and you just 0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:21.080 kind of being up under his his leadership and this guy, oh, 0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:23.040 you know, just being around Uncle was ill. You know, 0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:25.959 um before you do his shows and things like that. 0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:28.880 When he comes, I'll go to the crib helping them 0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:30.680 move from just growing up here and this music on 0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:35.120 his um performances as a youngster, you know, uh, just 0:29:35.200 --> 0:29:39.440 help them help me even more influence of my music music, 0:29:39.960 --> 0:29:42.240 musical talents. I guess you know I used to singing 0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:44.040 all that. But I'm not saying I used to sing. 0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:46.719 I'm saying I used to background singing for my cousins 0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:49.600 to him. And you know, when when new addition came out, 0:29:49.640 --> 0:29:51.840 you know, everybody wanted to be a groupe, right, That's 0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:54.920 really like, well a little started, but Uncle always held 0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:56.760 it down. You know what I'm saying, Uncle Gil Scott 0:29:57.160 --> 0:29:59.920 hard body man mad. I mean, there are these things 0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:01.400 on on with him and all of that, but he 0:30:01.480 --> 0:30:05.880 was definitely a talented man and the great musician, great 0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:09.320 artists man, you know. And that's the speddled for that, really, 0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:12.160 you know what I'm saying. And it's just like he's 0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:15.080 just sitting on he's just seing me. Man, that's Uncle Gil. 0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:16.640 If you get a chance, check him out on the 0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:20.800 on Prime. On Prime. He got the new joint black Wax. 0:30:20.880 --> 0:30:23.240 If you've never seen that, check that out, no doubt. 0:30:23.480 --> 0:30:25.000 But yeah, he was good, he was just it was 0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:26.720 just something what it is, man, you know what I'm saying. 0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:30.280 A good influence? Man, How hard was it for you, 0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:32.680 you know, to get in and get signed by rapper label? 0:30:33.040 --> 0:30:40.760 Everybody's fire, yeah, everybody, everybody's a bees yeah right, Well 0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:43.240 then back then when it's not, when it's not, I'm 0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:46.600 sure we'll get to this later, but it wasn't as accessible, right, 0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:49.920 Like everybody you got soundclouds, you got Instagram, you got 0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:53.920 all these different things. But yeah, gives point. How how 0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:58.000 are you able to obtain a recording contract back then? Oh? Man? 0:30:58.080 --> 0:31:00.640 It took. It took to gritting your talent and to 0:31:00.880 --> 0:31:03.640 you know, you know, your confidence. Man. Like back in 0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:06.440 the days, man, we used to go to like it 0:31:06.560 --> 0:31:09.560 wasn't just lost boys, right yeah, red Man, you had 0:31:09.600 --> 0:31:11.920 all Keith, Mary, all of us was going at it. 0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:15.280 So with all that talent in the game, nobody's sounding 0:31:15.320 --> 0:31:18.200 the same. It's different. Flavors every way you look. It's different. 0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:22.880 Nig is rapping about different things and different from from 0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:28.320 PM Dawn to like you said, doys effects, trickal quest. 0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:31.280 It was mad, different things popping. You got you got 0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:33.200 the gangster ship out in l A where you was 0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:35.960 at car and n w A come on man, hundred 0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:39.120 miles and running like you don't listen, Man, listen is real. 0:31:39.560 --> 0:31:43.640 Hip hop and music is just so it's so warm. 0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:45.480 It's just so influencial. You know what I'm saying. Just 0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:47.800 maybe just I'm happy I'm be a part of this. 0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:49.480 You know what I'm saying. It's not just it's just smaller. 0:31:49.600 --> 0:31:52.160 It's more than just rapping about you know, the struggles 0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:54.000 and all. Like you said, you can talk about your lady, 0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:55.920 were talking about politics, you talked about anything in the 0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:58.840 rap game. Mean, I mean when you take your time 0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:01.520 out and really write music is different like anybody like 0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:03.720 you said, anybody could rap, but it's like yo, when 0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:05.360 you really put your pen down to the paper and 0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:09.600 believe think about you know what I'm saying right down 0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:11.840 was really like I don't know, man, I'm different. I 0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:13.880 don't I don't freestyle when I rap. I don't. I 0:32:13.880 --> 0:32:16.160 don't freestyle the album. I don't fee y'all. I'm putting 0:32:16.200 --> 0:32:18.040 my pen to the paper. So I'm used to that 0:32:18.120 --> 0:32:20.000 and being back in it from back in the days. Man, 0:32:20.040 --> 0:32:22.080 that's what you had to do though, like you have 0:32:22.160 --> 0:32:25.760 to have skills, you know what I'm saying, And I don't. 0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:32.960 I'm not saying the game changed like that, but it's like, yes, outside, 0:32:33.080 --> 0:32:38.200 I gotta ask the game. Like, listen to you, you 0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:43.920 had Life's camera, actually have renee. But in between the 0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:50.680 course it was actual words, lyricism, lyricism, lyricism. Now you 0:32:50.800 --> 0:32:57.000 listen to music, the whole song, it's course yeah m hm, 0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:02.320 not putting you on the spot of you know, down plane, 0:33:02.960 --> 0:33:06.160 the Curse of vers of course, no question, no course 0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:11.200 for listening to rap. Now, some some artists, you can't 0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:17.600 tell between the course, hook, the hook, the bridge. You can't. 0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:20.600 I don't. I can't separate it. It's like it's all 0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:25.640 the same, right, It's like through the whole song and 0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:31.880 it's not even a real sixteen bars. No, it's like 0:33:31.920 --> 0:33:37.200 two bars. M hmm. It's like the game got like 0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:41.440 remember we had three verses in your records. Yeah, they 0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:43.239 don't do that. No more. They can try to get 0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:51.920 away with one verse and slid. It's like, huh, they're 0:33:52.000 --> 0:33:57.200 they're successfully doing it. They yeah, they win because the 0:33:57.240 --> 0:33:59.120 niggas ain't got time to be listening to the whole 0:33:59.200 --> 0:34:02.840 stories no more. And it just like this now, niggas, 0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:05.160 what the bag went? Everything is so fast next forgot 0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:07.920 about what it is though, Like the game they changing 0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:11.000 so far that they fed these niggas or they fed 0:34:11.040 --> 0:34:14.400 all this like uh yeah, it's all about And the 0:34:14.520 --> 0:34:17.200 radio stations don't even give you you know, you wait, 0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:19.239 are you gonna wake up to them and take your 0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:21.600 kids to school or whatever? Yeah, and nigga talking about 0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:24.719 I don't even know. I don't want to throw it 0:34:24.719 --> 0:34:26.080 out because I don't be really, I'll be hearing the 0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:30.080 records on the way shoot in the radio, y'all playing 0:34:34.440 --> 0:34:39.239 joint what they're doing, man, I say, but now, but 0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:41.960 I'm just different in the game in the morning and 0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:46.040 they talk about give me, I'm like, yo, let's get 0:34:46.120 --> 0:34:49.360 over there. But it's just different, man on. The game 0:34:49.480 --> 0:34:51.799 is not the same. Man. I mean a lot of 0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:54.520 people that used to really care about the game, the 0:34:54.719 --> 0:34:56.680 xex and all of that, they don't care no more. 0:34:56.880 --> 0:35:01.000 They care about YouTube, light blue pikes and all of that. 0:35:01.080 --> 0:35:04.440 It's not really it's not even about like talent them are. 0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:08.880 It's about likes and ship like the chicken that glue ahead. 0:35:10.239 --> 0:35:12.680 If this is coming out with a record, Niggers, get 0:35:12.680 --> 0:35:16.319 out my fish man. I if these they just get this, 0:35:16.440 --> 0:35:18.680 this that got the river blue tap to the head, 0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:22.799 y'all wowing. Man, that's how easy it is. Man. You 0:35:23.239 --> 0:35:24.799 back in the days you had to work for. We 0:35:25.040 --> 0:35:27.120 made man. We had to work for like when you now, 0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:30.720 I worked for talking with y'all. Right now it's twenty 0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:33.960 I put my first, my first record out in. Let's 0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:37.879 shoot that in twenty one. I'm talking to Motherfucky Steve Smith. Nigger. Yes, 0:35:38.000 --> 0:35:41.920 that big fence, you already know that. You know what 0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:46.240 I'm saying that love to the face, shout out said man. Whatever, 0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:48.480 I'm cutting through it on, I'm cutting to it in. 0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:52.799 I think what you're saying is it's the longevity, right 0:35:52.880 --> 0:35:58.480 like the Jays wrapping now is still rapping. They have longevity. 0:35:58.520 --> 0:36:01.719 They still have the storytelling them. They still have the 0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:04.640 history and the and and paint. How much of the 0:36:04.719 --> 0:36:07.680 game right now is I hear exactly what you're saying, no, 0:36:07.800 --> 0:36:10.840 The point is people are just taking advantage of that 0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:21.200 fifteen minutes. Yeah, microwave generation instant noodles. Because but here's 0:36:21.200 --> 0:36:23.920 the thing, you though. Then they get and I'm not 0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:27.319 gonna name a person, but they take four years and 0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:30.759 they save up and they and they take all their 0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:35.160 money and they get a diamond impressed in their forehead. 0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:46.000 Oh man, we just go different ship. Yeah, it's different. 0:36:46.040 --> 0:36:49.759 It's different. It's different. It's different. Every time I see 0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:51.440 the Homeboy with that in his head, and now I 0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:56.799 think about, you know, my man from the the the 0:36:56.800 --> 0:36:59.600 when the superhero ship pull that out of his head, 0:36:59.680 --> 0:37:06.080 like the Avengers Vengers, like yo, that the Avenger joining 0:37:06.120 --> 0:37:09.040 is head. That's crazy because it's putting the vengeer joints 0:37:09.040 --> 0:37:12.880 in their head. It's cool. I'm just I'm just rock 0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:17.400 these gold teeth man smoke this league. The moral of 0:37:17.440 --> 0:37:23.800 that story is it's his rock stars. You gotta forgetta 0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:27.120 remember now what happened to music videos? Man? I grew 0:37:27.200 --> 0:37:31.719 up watching Jukebox, oh man, or the Basement. You're on 0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:35.160 TV jams? You know what? Why why are music videos gone? 0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:38.640 With them? Shows? At right? Yeah? Well, yeah, I don't 0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:42.680 know what those shows are either, But why what why 0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:45.279 you used to make a song? When you did a song, 0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:49.280 you had to follow up with a music video because 0:37:49.320 --> 0:37:53.200 if your music video sometimes the music video, what show 0:37:54.280 --> 0:37:57.320 your actual song? That that's how people That's how some 0:37:57.480 --> 0:38:02.359 people consumed it. Yeah, the vision invidual. Like so, how 0:38:02.400 --> 0:38:04.320 how has it? I mean, if you don't mind breaking 0:38:04.320 --> 0:38:08.280 it down, like just really how the game has changed? 0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:14.720 The money? The money because because everyone thinks every rapper 0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:20.879 that has made it has that bag, and that's the case, 0:38:20.920 --> 0:38:23.719 there's a lot. I mean, you look at Tony Braxton, 0:38:24.080 --> 0:38:27.040 you look at some of these some of these artists 0:38:27.040 --> 0:38:33.520 who's who have had multiple albums who later come out 0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:37.400 and they say, hey, a bad contract or the or 0:38:37.440 --> 0:38:40.160 the deal was not what I thought it was. Um. 0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:43.200 Then you and then you hear some yeah, and you 0:38:43.239 --> 0:38:45.759 hear some people they're talking about how you know, going 0:38:45.800 --> 0:38:48.600 on tours, the way you make your money. I just 0:38:49.280 --> 0:38:51.280 I just want to know, like how is it changing 0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:53.239 how you know for the good and the bad or 0:38:53.360 --> 0:38:56.800 and why is all this stuff everybody think like like football, 0:38:57.040 --> 0:39:00.600 there's fifty three guys on the roster, but they're really 0:39:00.640 --> 0:39:04.080 only about twelve guys making bookoo. Then then the other 0:39:04.120 --> 0:39:07.400 forties something of them. Uh, they don't. All right, you 0:39:07.440 --> 0:39:11.600 know they're they're they're doctors and lawyers, but but they 0:39:11.719 --> 0:39:17.319 they aren't multimillionaires that people assume they are. It's a 0:39:17.360 --> 0:39:20.839 different game, brother, know what I'm saying, Like we were 0:39:20.880 --> 0:39:23.600 in the game, you have to go to labels and 0:39:23.680 --> 0:39:27.719 get dells and fight food. And you know, now, like 0:39:27.760 --> 0:39:30.200 I said, it's like it's just giving out the money 0:39:30.320 --> 0:39:32.920 right now, whatever sticks to the wall. Bang. You know, 0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:34.440 That's how I look at I ain't even mad at 0:39:34.440 --> 0:39:39.680 saying that. But when you say they're giving money, you know, 0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:44.160 not not using yourself as an example, but now you 0:39:44.200 --> 0:39:47.160 can use me an example. I'm saying that mistakes. No, No, 0:39:47.160 --> 0:39:49.799 I know, I'm just talking about as far as like, 0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:52.520 what's what is you're saying they're giving money away? What's 0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:55.799 a lucrative deal that that you're hearing that that's out there? 0:39:56.120 --> 0:39:58.560 They're lucrative deal? They got the three sixties going on 0:39:58.600 --> 0:40:01.840 and feeling No, I don't over yeah, explained explained to us. 0:40:02.960 --> 0:40:06.440 You asked me, I'll feeling you I don't. They're taking 0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:08.680 all your show money. They're giving you the biggest shows 0:40:08.680 --> 0:40:10.719 because they're taking some of that money. I mean, this 0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:12.960 is what it is. They give you budget because they're 0:40:12.960 --> 0:40:15.360 getting their money at the see what the rectors do? 0:40:15.520 --> 0:40:18.279 You know, like like it always been. But I really 0:40:18.320 --> 0:40:21.000 ain't been in the industry, so I ain't really been 0:40:21.080 --> 0:40:22.759 in the game. I I'm on label and all that. 0:40:22.800 --> 0:40:24.960 I know my own little routes that I'm taking the 0:40:25.239 --> 0:40:28.360 way to sell records and all that, so I can explain. 0:40:28.440 --> 0:40:31.160 I really like when they're giving out these deals down 0:40:31.239 --> 0:40:33.399 three sixty. When they see three sixty, like I said, 0:40:33.440 --> 0:40:36.400 they're taking most of them. It's really like not not 0:40:36.520 --> 0:40:40.680 you're like everything. It's like when you do shows, you 0:40:40.680 --> 0:40:42.400 don't you don't give you a label the money. You 0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:44.960 know what I'm saying. When you do you sell the merchandise, 0:40:45.000 --> 0:40:47.280 you don't get a lab. Label, don't get that money. 0:40:47.680 --> 0:40:51.719 I mean yours that's supposed to be you all day. 0:40:51.800 --> 0:40:54.160 But now they got Like I said, you might have 0:40:54.160 --> 0:40:55.719 to talk somebody else I know about the really to 0:40:55.880 --> 0:40:58.080 the three sixty. But like I said, I'll mean, I 0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:02.520 am in the game and about what the industry industry. 0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:04.440 I've been to my own runs, doing my own thing. 0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:08.080 Mown still popping in but they ain't really like with 0:41:08.120 --> 0:41:09.920 a label and all of that song of my own 0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:13.959 label and my own you know, my own backing since 0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:17.040 when we's doing it. So but it's just like, yo, 0:41:18.800 --> 0:41:21.680 the games is mad different, man. I can't really explain 0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:23.799 it because I ain't really playing that game with them 0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:26.880 no more, you know. But like I said on what 0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:30.000 you say, would you say that guys are in the 0:41:30.080 --> 0:41:33.200 rap game right now? Not everybody? You know, we're not 0:41:33.200 --> 0:41:35.640 talking about the Drakes. We're not talking about the Kendrick 0:41:35.680 --> 0:41:37.399 of Mars. You're not talking about the big guys. We're 0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:42.799 talking about the middle of the road guys. Right they're 0:41:42.840 --> 0:41:47.200 looking apart. But it doesn't always equal up to the park, fast, fast, fast, 0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:49.000 a lot of line going on, a lot of front, 0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:51.840 a lot of bullshit, a lot of cloud chasing. We 0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:54.520 get it, we get it, but sometimes you gotta fake 0:41:54.560 --> 0:41:57.439 it to make it. You know. I think it's about 0:41:57.440 --> 0:42:01.720 that time. Just take a little breather, do it good, 0:42:01.840 --> 0:42:07.000 do it. Let's getting down to do it good. Hey Gerard, 0:42:07.120 --> 0:42:09.080 why did you get that T shirt? You mean this thing? 0:42:09.360 --> 0:42:11.760 Oh yes, I got it from cut to a podcast 0:42:11.880 --> 0:42:15.040 dot com where we have exclusive merchandise. Shout out to 0:42:15.080 --> 0:42:16.719 our guys at seven or four shot. But yeah, you 0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:19.239 can go on, buy you a T shirt, subscribe to 0:42:19.320 --> 0:42:23.280 us wherever you listen to podcasts. There's so much music 0:42:23.320 --> 0:42:26.480 out there, it's really hard to know who's successful and 0:42:26.520 --> 0:42:28.400 who's not. And I was gonna say that now, the 0:42:28.400 --> 0:42:30.399 way that you consume, in the way that it's put 0:42:30.440 --> 0:42:34.880 out like this, the whole streaming platforms, it's it's a 0:42:34.920 --> 0:42:37.279 lot to choose from. But then I think also what 0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:39.600 both of y'all are saying is it seems like that's 0:42:39.680 --> 0:42:42.320 changed the game too, Like the streaming be good or 0:42:42.360 --> 0:42:47.080 bad for for the music industry. Like you said, it's 0:42:47.120 --> 0:42:51.640 like it's both ways. Man. You know it's good. That's 0:42:51.680 --> 0:43:00.399 good for me, Nail, they got they got the spot fire, 0:43:00.560 --> 0:43:02.920 you know, we use all of that. But yeah, I 0:43:02.920 --> 0:43:07.080 guess it's good. But then it's also bad because god 0:43:07.200 --> 0:43:10.879 damn man, you get anybody can sell a record head? 0:43:11.040 --> 0:43:13.279 You know, I don't know, man, I don't know it. 0:43:13.600 --> 0:43:19.520 I ain't know like music that be hating music. I'm asking. 0:43:19.800 --> 0:43:24.439 I'm asking because you just going back in the day. 0:43:24.760 --> 0:43:28.279 First of all, it popped upside the head. If you 0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:31.920 are to more than one juwbox, Uh, was that like 0:43:31.960 --> 0:43:37.680 the mail thing. No jukebox was back in the day, 0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:40.759 juke box for for Cali dudes was you watch television 0:43:41.200 --> 0:43:44.080 and you can for ninety nine in or to nine 0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:47.440 feels a feature. You call in and you request the 0:43:47.520 --> 0:43:53.719 box that music video or that song, right, yeah, And 0:43:53.760 --> 0:43:57.680 that's how they do it now. With streaming, you just 0:43:58.239 --> 0:44:03.399 you just downloaded, pay you pay, or whatever the case 0:44:03.480 --> 0:44:07.160 may be, and you can download whatever you want. And 0:44:07.239 --> 0:44:10.239 if it's a feature and it just comes out, you 0:44:10.280 --> 0:44:13.680 can download it early, you know, pay for it. And 0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:16.040 I just and I just see that things are different. 0:44:17.719 --> 0:44:20.640 And so being a old school cat, you that have 0:44:20.880 --> 0:44:24.400 had a number of rectors, when somebody downloads it yours, 0:44:24.440 --> 0:44:27.839 you get the residual, but you capture Back in the day, 0:44:27.920 --> 0:44:33.200 you were able to capture that information. Right now, it 0:44:33.320 --> 0:44:38.640 seems like the it seems like it's harder to understand 0:44:38.680 --> 0:44:44.200 how they capture it because it's so much. With that 0:44:45.000 --> 0:44:47.760 twenty dollars a month, I can get I can download 0:44:47.760 --> 0:44:51.840 as much as I want. You got peloton, right, I 0:44:51.840 --> 0:44:57.680 get on the peloton. I'm I'm whatever. Right. It just 0:44:57.719 --> 0:45:02.279 seems it just seems as music has still stayed the 0:45:02.320 --> 0:45:06.840 same with expression Yeah, the way you can consume it 0:45:07.840 --> 0:45:12.239 around the world is different, right, It's all the strange man. 0:45:12.280 --> 0:45:14.480 And and the question becomes what is the cost of 0:45:14.520 --> 0:45:16.680 a stream And that's a that's an open ended question, 0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:20.040 but it goes it goes back to from an artist perspective, 0:45:20.040 --> 0:45:22.160 like Mr Cheesus is talking about like I'm sure you 0:45:22.160 --> 0:45:23.640 you knew back in the day, all right, I'm selling 0:45:23.640 --> 0:45:24.840 the CD. I get it, I get a cut of 0:45:24.920 --> 0:45:28.440 the CD. But now it is it is very different 0:45:28.480 --> 0:45:31.400 in in the means of the streaming has just changed 0:45:31.440 --> 0:45:33.720 the way that people consume and the way that people purchase. 0:45:34.280 --> 0:45:36.760 I just remember, like when you can buy an album, 0:45:36.840 --> 0:45:40.480 then you can buy an album really enjoy an album. 0:45:40.680 --> 0:45:46.120 No fact, you don't fast forward no records. Man. Yeah 0:45:46.239 --> 0:45:48.200 it's a lost there's a lot of lost, man. But 0:45:49.360 --> 0:45:51.480 it's still out there though. Don't get it twisted, because 0:45:51.560 --> 0:45:54.040 it's some good artists that's still got albums out, Like 0:45:54.400 --> 0:45:56.759 you know, she Loon got a new album out, she 0:45:57.000 --> 0:46:02.000 Loo uh uh, Floyd Fluss has got his tent underground. 0:46:02.000 --> 0:46:03.879 Should uh I love so much you know what I'm 0:46:03.920 --> 0:46:05.720 saying that I saw. I just want to shut shout 0:46:05.800 --> 0:46:08.960 that up. South those out the underground still is as 0:46:09.000 --> 0:46:13.200 prominent as it is. The problem is coming back, man. 0:46:13.280 --> 0:46:16.360 I mean, like you know, several times it's like the 0:46:16.440 --> 0:46:19.480 several of the things that go down and is on 0:46:19.520 --> 0:46:24.200 his way back, the boom back on air stuff. Yeah, yo, 0:46:24.880 --> 0:46:27.879 check this out, my man. You know, Brucy b You're 0:46:27.920 --> 0:46:30.000 the original, you know, from wild Style and all that. 0:46:30.840 --> 0:46:34.680 Bucy I mean not Brucy be Busy bes busy be. 0:46:35.000 --> 0:46:37.759 He gotta wreck it out right now that they really 0:46:37.760 --> 0:46:39.719 paying attention to it. But it's so hard, you know 0:46:39.760 --> 0:46:43.160 what I'm saying. It's like it's like we don't really 0:46:43.160 --> 0:46:44.799 pay attention to all like you know what I'm saying, 0:46:44.840 --> 0:46:46.919 music like we usual because it's not really out there 0:46:47.120 --> 0:46:50.200 too for us to get or to hear because they're 0:46:50.239 --> 0:46:51.920 so flooded with everything else right now. You know what 0:46:51.920 --> 0:46:54.800 I'm saying, It's like look away from the realhood, the 0:46:55.560 --> 0:46:58.720 classic ways of making music and really putting the network 0:46:58.760 --> 0:47:02.759 and the track from Pete Rocking, you know what I'm saying, like, 0:47:03.600 --> 0:47:07.160 oh man, oh ship. But I don't mean to jimple 0:47:07.680 --> 0:47:09.960 of the course, but yeah, I missed music like that, 0:47:10.040 --> 0:47:12.160 and uh, it's on his way back. Don't trust me 0:47:12.200 --> 0:47:14.640 that I mean like when you were when you were 0:47:14.640 --> 0:47:17.319 growing up talking about music on his way back. How 0:47:17.440 --> 0:47:22.520 thick and legitimate was the East Coast versus West Coast beef? 0:47:23.719 --> 0:47:26.560 How dick was it? Yeah? Because you know sometimes people 0:47:26.560 --> 0:47:29.120 be like it wasn't legit, it was just awful. It 0:47:29.200 --> 0:47:33.400 was all authentic. Yes, it was just all for It 0:47:33.520 --> 0:47:36.080 was all for show. It wasn't all for show because 0:47:36.080 --> 0:47:39.200 two niggas died right now. Man, that ship wasn't no show. 0:47:39.280 --> 0:47:43.480 Chip is real, but it was a real beef. I 0:47:43.480 --> 0:47:46.040 mean it wasn't. It wasn't really like no Willie I 0:47:46.120 --> 0:47:48.759 would beef me. But we was back in biggie because 0:47:48.760 --> 0:47:50.440 he was on the East Coast and Nigga's that was 0:47:50.480 --> 0:47:53.279 with Topac's back and pop over there me. But you 0:47:53.320 --> 0:47:55.640 know the let me tell you the beauty, the beautiful 0:47:55.680 --> 0:47:58.520 thing about that East Coast was coast. Me and the 0:47:58.560 --> 0:48:02.920 motherfucking dog Pound Shot music made Hi remix l in 0:48:03.080 --> 0:48:06.640 l A together East Coast, West Coast while that beef 0:48:06.719 --> 0:48:09.000 was going on him saying, so it wasn't really like 0:48:10.040 --> 0:48:13.080 it was like did he and show ship and a 0:48:13.080 --> 0:48:14.960 lot of people got caught between that ship. You know 0:48:15.000 --> 0:48:16.759 what I'm saying I mean, I'm not saying it like that, 0:48:16.800 --> 0:48:20.040 but I'm saying it, but you're saying that it was. Man, 0:48:20.040 --> 0:48:22.759 it's a lot of other ship, not the main characters. 0:48:23.000 --> 0:48:25.680 They didn't tupac Beef. They had the music going on, 0:48:25.719 --> 0:48:30.120 but other elements came about, you know, but it seemed 0:48:30.160 --> 0:48:35.440 like because of the Beef that the realness and the 0:48:35.520 --> 0:48:40.280 hard work. East Coast tried to outwork West Coast. West 0:48:40.320 --> 0:48:45.880 Coast tried to outwork. Yeah, the music was so direct 0:48:46.600 --> 0:48:50.879 but also so original, so creative, because whatever you came 0:48:50.920 --> 0:48:54.200 out with, then that side of the Coast had to 0:48:54.239 --> 0:48:57.120 come back, come back to something more substance, and then 0:48:57.719 --> 0:48:59.960 and then it burned for more because like like Mistership 0:49:00.040 --> 0:49:02.000 is saying too like I think they were able to 0:49:02.040 --> 0:49:04.280 merge them in the Dog Pound were able to merge, 0:49:04.280 --> 0:49:06.640 and then later on then you got the South Rise 0:49:06.680 --> 0:49:08.480 and the Right like you got you got outcasts came 0:49:08.520 --> 0:49:12.480 into the even having that, but still you're able to 0:49:12.520 --> 0:49:16.040 birth other projects and other places from the country able 0:49:16.080 --> 0:49:19.880 to to bring about good music as well. That's a fact. 0:49:20.520 --> 0:49:22.720 You know. We're gonna do one that we love calls 0:49:22.760 --> 0:49:25.960 called DP three Man and just it's you know, just 0:49:26.040 --> 0:49:30.319 about you and their inner perspective. What advice would you 0:49:30.360 --> 0:49:34.040 give a young rapper starting out today? You know, stay 0:49:34.080 --> 0:49:36.360 original man, be original in the game. You know what 0:49:36.440 --> 0:49:40.200 I'm saying. I mean, go your own way, man, and 0:49:40.239 --> 0:49:42.800 don't get distracted tracts because the game is crazy, you 0:49:42.840 --> 0:49:45.160 might get distracted. Don't get distracted at all, Kay, just 0:49:45.280 --> 0:49:47.440 keep following and going for what you believe in and 0:49:47.960 --> 0:49:50.160 you understand what you what you want to do is 0:49:50.200 --> 0:49:52.200 what you You know what I'm saying, that's something what 0:49:52.719 --> 0:49:54.840 you your way of life and where you want to 0:49:54.880 --> 0:49:57.200 carry on through your journey. You know what I'm saying. 0:49:57.400 --> 0:50:01.719 But definitely don't get distracted and the original keep that 0:50:01.880 --> 0:50:04.799 fire in you man. Go hard. That's bottom nine. Like 0:50:05.800 --> 0:50:07.120 a lot of people don't know it took us ten 0:50:07.200 --> 0:50:10.240 years to make that one record. Like styles that mention shameless, 0:50:10.280 --> 0:50:14.000 So I mean we was doing that. We was making records, 0:50:14.120 --> 0:50:19.279 were making records. It's like what eighty seven, so you know, 0:50:19.560 --> 0:50:23.440 things just we developed into becoming the lotst boys that 0:50:25.360 --> 0:50:27.520 and this. We went hard and we got that album there, 0:50:27.760 --> 0:50:29.600 you know what I'm talking about, Like he was working 0:50:29.600 --> 0:50:31.719 our way up there and it took us ten years. 0:50:31.719 --> 0:50:35.120 Aget established and go and bang out with Tim Dog 0:50:35.200 --> 0:50:37.040 and them and get a record there, to make one 0:50:37.080 --> 0:50:39.879 record from eight these eighty six eighty seven and ship 0:50:39.960 --> 0:50:44.160 like that. You started making music at what fifteen years 0:50:44.160 --> 0:50:46.799 old in fact, So it just took us a while 0:50:46.800 --> 0:50:49.080 to get to one of the be So never give 0:50:49.160 --> 0:50:51.040 up type ship. You know what I'm saying. You gotta 0:50:51.080 --> 0:50:52.680 go through it to get to it. You know what 0:50:52.800 --> 0:50:56.760 I mean. Got you so if you hadn't become a rapper, 0:50:56.800 --> 0:51:00.400 what would you have done? Oh? Man, I probably claimed 0:51:00.400 --> 0:51:12.080 ball basketball That is not football, not football. We knew 0:51:12.120 --> 0:51:19.600 that early. Like yo, yeah baby, okay, okay, I still 0:51:20.040 --> 0:51:22.640 man to man. When when you get back in the 0:51:22.719 --> 0:51:28.040 COVID is old meet you down here. Okay, come on here, 0:51:28.120 --> 0:51:31.160 no chucks, you better come some real basketball shoots. I'm 0:51:31.200 --> 0:51:34.000 coming out with the Air Force ones hot top. This 0:51:34.080 --> 0:51:36.400 is North Carolina. It's to Bacco Road. We can go 0:51:36.520 --> 0:51:40.359 with the r C. Wallace's Baby. I know what you're saying. 0:51:40.880 --> 0:51:42.600 I don't tell you. I'm gonna tell you right now 0:51:42.640 --> 0:51:44.920 because my son is getting taller than me, and I 0:51:44.920 --> 0:51:47.799 told this morning he did something. I was in the pantry, 0:51:48.239 --> 0:51:51.920 you trunk tell you. Look, I ain't gonna low Bridge. 0:51:52.560 --> 0:51:57.759 I'm tack but you ain't dunking. You better know it better, Hey, 0:51:57.880 --> 0:52:01.279 Mr Cheeks, and I know you you Paul come, your 0:52:01.280 --> 0:52:04.680 little skinny as trying to dunk on you better put 0:52:04.680 --> 0:52:07.279 it in them out, Please take out some golds now 0:52:07.480 --> 0:52:11.920 I'm hitting them three something another word, I'm doing the 0:52:12.000 --> 0:52:14.439 light do It's like that in other words? You don't 0:52:14.440 --> 0:52:18.520 want those? Yeah, he trying to ice up. No, Steve, 0:52:18.600 --> 0:52:23.439 you and mamam cotting Steve Marley, I know them. You're 0:52:23.440 --> 0:52:27.080 not let you do. You know that, but you're gonna 0:52:27.120 --> 0:52:29.960 run and tell everybody right, so you're not doing nothing 0:52:29.960 --> 0:52:32.560 on the right. I understand. I understand, and so I 0:52:32.600 --> 0:52:34.720 take it from over here and bing bing, I shoot 0:52:34.719 --> 0:52:42.040 the lights out there. Oh okay, listen, she's got range. 0:52:42.280 --> 0:52:46.960 You already do our last one? Man, is it's more 0:52:47.000 --> 0:52:49.800 of a thing. Is it's less of of a question. 0:52:49.800 --> 0:52:52.239 I can tell you this, um, And I told you 0:52:52.280 --> 0:52:54.680 when I was when I was on your show. But man, 0:52:54.719 --> 0:52:58.840 I grew up listening to to your songs man and 0:52:58.920 --> 0:53:02.560 Renee renew Renee was one of the songs man that 0:53:02.840 --> 0:53:06.399 I just remember, and it just um, you know, growing 0:53:06.480 --> 0:53:10.240 up on the West coast. There was this West coast field. 0:53:10.440 --> 0:53:16.000 You weren't really allowed to really like other other folks 0:53:16.040 --> 0:53:18.120 stuff on the East coast, Man, but Renee was one 0:53:18.160 --> 0:53:20.719 of those things. And that's all meant something. You can 0:53:20.800 --> 0:53:23.879 tell that's meant something, and it was. It was really cool, man, 0:53:23.920 --> 0:53:25.879 And I and I and I just want to thank you, 0:53:27.040 --> 0:53:29.600 because when you look at the rap game, you look 0:53:29.640 --> 0:53:31.919 at some of the stuff that's out there, Man, it 0:53:32.000 --> 0:53:36.720 is hard to listen to. It's sometimes you'll find yourself 0:53:36.760 --> 0:53:39.080 saying some stuff where you find yourself thinking you're like 0:53:39.880 --> 0:53:44.600 and I questioned where this is coming from. It was 0:53:44.640 --> 0:53:46.720 coming from a place, and a lot of your music 0:53:46.719 --> 0:53:49.400 comes from place of where you were in life. But 0:53:49.440 --> 0:53:53.680 then also what you experience, you experience the loss, your 0:53:53.719 --> 0:53:58.680 experience love, you experience relationship, man, and and that's what 0:53:58.880 --> 0:54:01.200 music really is about. When you go when you when 0:54:01.239 --> 0:54:04.120 you break it down, it goes back into experiences and 0:54:04.200 --> 0:54:08.640 you let us you gave us a peek into the 0:54:08.680 --> 0:54:12.600 window of your experience, you know. So I just want 0:54:12.600 --> 0:54:16.359 to tell you, man for for me growing up and 0:54:16.400 --> 0:54:18.839 being able to do this podcast and talk to talk 0:54:18.920 --> 0:54:22.400 to current players and entertainers, but also being able to 0:54:22.400 --> 0:54:25.400 talk to the right man. It's it's an honor and 0:54:25.400 --> 0:54:30.120 the privilege in this respect facts man, so love man, 0:54:30.160 --> 0:54:32.399 it's all a blessing. Man. We keep it like this, 0:54:32.400 --> 0:54:34.880 it's gonna just be. It ain't the old game. You 0:54:34.920 --> 0:54:37.640 know what I'm saying, Like, I appreciate that that I 0:54:37.680 --> 0:54:39.520 gonna write music for us, you know what I'm saying. 0:54:39.560 --> 0:54:41.520 I ain't just write that for me, man, It's definitely 0:54:41.760 --> 0:54:43.800 when I write my music, I'm writing for every brother 0:54:44.080 --> 0:54:46.160 and if you if you if you rock them with me, 0:54:46.239 --> 0:54:47.560 well if you're not. You know what I'm saying. I 0:54:47.600 --> 0:54:49.200 know some people that have been through what I've been through. 0:54:49.239 --> 0:54:51.719 So I definitely trying to put that into the to 0:54:51.800 --> 0:54:53.800 my my music all day every day, you know what 0:54:53.840 --> 0:54:56.879 I'm saying. So I write for us, brother, I write 0:54:56.880 --> 0:55:08.400 for us, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, who was 0:55:08.440 --> 0:55:10.440 the most important artist to you growing up in l 0:55:10.480 --> 0:55:17.480 A mm hmm. And just thinking about it, he looked back, obviously, 0:55:17.680 --> 0:55:22.480 Tupac um ice Cube, Dr Dre, Like just you know, 0:55:22.520 --> 0:55:26.000 I think growing up, you know, growing up around that time, 0:55:26.080 --> 0:55:31.320 you you're always looking for something or grasping for something. Um, 0:55:31.400 --> 0:55:36.240 I think you know, sports, celebrities entertainers. Music. I think music, 0:55:37.000 --> 0:55:40.759 especially for young men. Um, I think it's easier to 0:55:40.880 --> 0:55:44.239 relate to, especially back in the day because of the 0:55:44.360 --> 0:55:50.560 music videos, the the glitz and the glamour. Um. But um, 0:55:49.320 --> 0:55:53.759 I think music music hash change, so I don't really 0:55:53.760 --> 0:55:56.640 see music the same way today that I used to 0:55:56.680 --> 0:55:59.480 see it. So, um, I think music back when I 0:55:59.520 --> 0:56:02.840 was a kid, back in the eighties and nineties impacted 0:56:02.920 --> 0:56:06.160 you so differently. It made for me, I agree with 0:56:06.400 --> 0:56:12.200 everything you said. For me, I love music, specifically hip hop. 0:56:12.560 --> 0:56:17.480 Of it always made a very big world seems smaller. 0:56:18.400 --> 0:56:22.279 It allowed me, living in North Carolina to to hear 0:56:22.760 --> 0:56:26.560 West Coast stuff like the chronic to hear uh n 0:56:26.719 --> 0:56:29.160 w a T to hear even bumping up a little 0:56:29.160 --> 0:56:32.239 bit more the game, like all these different artists. It 0:56:32.600 --> 0:56:35.240 gave you an experience outside of what you know, outside 0:56:35.239 --> 0:56:38.040 of your your your own habitat. So for me, uh, 0:56:38.120 --> 0:56:41.160 it's big because it always gave kind of that that 0:56:41.200 --> 0:56:44.040 market time. Like you remember, I remember when Lights Camera 0:56:44.080 --> 0:56:46.160 Action by Mr Chiefs came out. That was two thousand 0:56:46.160 --> 0:56:48.680 and one, Like I remember that stuff. It's it very 0:56:48.760 --> 0:56:51.959 much points to a moment in time. But just having 0:56:51.960 --> 0:56:54.440 an artist like him. It was. It was so amazing, 0:56:54.480 --> 0:56:56.160 and we're planning to have a lot more artists on 0:56:56.160 --> 0:57:00.920 the show. What role did music play in your wrote 0:57:01.040 --> 0:57:03.920 music is. Music has played a huge role, especially as 0:57:03.920 --> 0:57:06.960 an athlete, because it gives you an opportunity to kind 0:57:06.960 --> 0:57:11.200 of zone out, zone in check in music. There's old 0:57:11.200 --> 0:57:14.120 school music. Man, when I when I play it in 0:57:14.160 --> 0:57:18.920 the car, I could just remember. I can, but I 0:57:18.960 --> 0:57:26.040 can remember, like like Lauren Hill, the fujis listening to them, 0:57:26.120 --> 0:57:28.000 like as you say that, I remember when I was 0:57:28.080 --> 0:57:30.160 listening to that when it first came bro. I can 0:57:30.240 --> 0:57:32.840 remember in fourth grade when the score came out. How 0:57:32.840 --> 0:57:37.440 about this stuff. I can remember sitting at home when 0:57:37.640 --> 0:57:41.240 with the NFL football somebody gave me and having my 0:57:41.400 --> 0:57:47.040 radio listening to the THEO right with that dark that 0:57:47.040 --> 0:57:50.520 that deep voice who was an Asian guy, right that 0:57:50.640 --> 0:57:53.479 nobody knew that was a big thing back then, back home, 0:57:54.080 --> 0:57:57.480 Um big boy, power one, power one oh six or 0:57:57.600 --> 0:58:02.040 you know power um and just remember and I could 0:58:02.080 --> 0:58:05.840 sit back and remember I was we were at one 0:58:06.520 --> 0:58:10.880 nine and a half Cambridge Way, and I can remember 0:58:10.920 --> 0:58:14.000 sitting there in the living room and some of my 0:58:14.760 --> 0:58:17.280 playing in the playoffs and losing, and I had some 0:58:17.360 --> 0:58:21.360 of my articles, and I remember tattooing the Superman, drawing 0:58:21.400 --> 0:58:24.680 the Superman s on the on my picture. And we 0:58:24.760 --> 0:58:27.680 had wood paneling, and we have bunk beds, and I 0:58:27.720 --> 0:58:32.400 can remember sitting in the house in my room day 0:58:32.480 --> 0:58:35.080 dreaming about catching the football they dreaming about playing in 0:58:35.080 --> 0:58:39.919 the nfl um also practicing uh nutcrackers, trying to get 0:58:39.960 --> 0:58:45.520 faster on my feet, and I just remember trying to 0:58:45.520 --> 0:58:48.240 be here, trying to be w I am today. But 0:58:48.320 --> 0:58:51.680 that music was the soundtrack behind Oh. That music allowed 0:58:51.720 --> 0:58:58.000 me to daydream. And when I hear that music, it 0:58:58.120 --> 0:59:01.200 reminds me and then it makes me kind of fast 0:59:01.240 --> 0:59:04.520 forward to where sometimes and I and I read this 0:59:04.600 --> 0:59:07.640 and it and it really puts it in perspective for me, 0:59:07.760 --> 0:59:13.160 is there is a basket of fresh bread on your head, 0:59:14.360 --> 0:59:17.320 and yet we go door to door asking for crust. 0:59:20.160 --> 0:59:23.520 I remember when I had crossed and I was asking 0:59:23.560 --> 0:59:27.000 for bread, And yet now and forty be forty two 0:59:27.040 --> 0:59:31.320 this year, and how I have bread, And sometimes I 0:59:31.360 --> 0:59:36.120 forgot I used to beg for crust. That music is 0:59:36.160 --> 0:59:38.760 a great reminder. Mr Cheeks was a great reminder. Man, 0:59:39.200 --> 0:59:43.360 I just gotta be grateful for today. 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