Speaker 1: This is cut to It with Steve Smith Senior at
Speaker 1: production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm
Speaker 1: Steve Smith Senior and I'm John And this is cut
Speaker 1: to it. Good do it, cud do it. Let's getting
Speaker 1: down to do it. Good do it. We asked the
Speaker 1: questions you always want to know, but no one ever asked,
Speaker 1: let's cut to it. You ain't heard about it, then
Speaker 1: we're about to let you know. It's all I've never
Speaker 1: ever ever wish another man, have you been? Let's do it?
Speaker 1: All right, man? So here we are again backstage, Joe,
Speaker 1: what's up? Man? What's going on? Fellas? I love having that.
Speaker 1: I love when you are on the mike something. It's
Speaker 1: always yeah, it's always something. He got something cooked up.
Speaker 1: You better believe everybody listens to this show understands there's
Speaker 1: some story. He comes when backstage comes up. You know,
Speaker 1: we got some diabolical scheme, some kind of planning, something important. Gina,
Speaker 1: I'm talking the other day. And as we migrate into
Speaker 1: this podcast, once we get past the banter and get
Speaker 1: into it and who we're talking to, all this will
Speaker 1: tie together and uh, you know, just music. I mean
Speaker 1: we all we all love music. Whatever whatever kind you like,
Speaker 1: whatever style genre singer we all like. And backstage you
Speaker 1: were colectic too, Man, I go back so so so
Speaker 1: you know back in the day when when backstage Joe
Speaker 1: might have been a little bit athletic. You can google it.
Speaker 1: So every every game before I stepped out on the
Speaker 1: mound when I was pitching, was Eric being rock him
Speaker 1: microphone thing? Now that like? And that was obviously after Yes,
Speaker 1: it was back to old banter folks. Yes, there's there's
Speaker 1: a lot of tie ins here. But so just like
Speaker 1: as I look across that, you guys, you know G
Speaker 1: Steve like, you know old school, you know hip hop, rap,
Speaker 1: R and B whatever you like. You know when you
Speaker 1: start looking back, we all know the Ice Cubes, the
Speaker 1: Dr Dre's outcast, you know Eric b Outcast, Uh, you
Speaker 1: know Beastie Boys, Flavor Flame, Public Enemy another one without
Speaker 1: a pause, look look at you. So with that being said,
Speaker 1: I wanted to test my two brothers rap game knowledge.
Speaker 1: I'm about to fail. So you don't you don't have
Speaker 1: any HIPOPN know what it's about yet, right, and you
Speaker 1: might be good. M I know my limitations. You know
Speaker 1: your limitations. So what is it like West coast only
Speaker 1: because you're a West coast. But I just I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't keep up with it as much you're talking
Speaker 1: about current stuff or just just you know, I know
Speaker 1: all those I don't oh the old school, I don't
Speaker 1: necessarily know the names anyway, Go ahead, don't you don't
Speaker 1: know names? He just dismissed me. Proceed. Look, so I
Speaker 1: got five questions here, so we just don't drag on
Speaker 1: our audience too long. Um, each question is gonna have
Speaker 1: three rap names in it. One of them is going
Speaker 1: to be real ones I've made up. Now this is
Speaker 1: racist because he made him up. He made them up.
Speaker 1: Let me check off MC white. So my disclaimer on
Speaker 1: this is I made these names up. Help you know
Speaker 1: this is this? This is me. So anybody out there
Speaker 1: with your YouTube rap name that I might not have
Speaker 1: seen online, I don't mean any disrespect. I'm not stealing it.
Speaker 1: I don't want to go Instagram live and get beat
Speaker 1: up because this is your real rap names up. No way,
Speaker 1: So I hope they're not so again, three rap names.
Speaker 1: One is real? Have an answer? Yeah? Yeah, we don't. Nobody,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, we don't. All right, So question one,
Speaker 1: Crispy Kream number two d J d Q or Burger Buddha,
Speaker 1: Which Chris, which one is real? Which one is which?
Speaker 1: Which one is a real rap name? Mr? Smith, Burger
Speaker 1: Buddha And I'll go with what was the second option,
Speaker 1: d J d Q. I'll go with d J d Q.
Speaker 1: You're both wrong. There's a rapper called Crispy Kream. How
Speaker 1: has like I don't know about spelling. I'm just ethnicity
Speaker 1: Crispy Kreme. I don't know about ethnicity. I just looked up.
Speaker 1: There's really a rapper named Chris Crispy it was his
Speaker 1: I'm guessing his ethnicity is not the color shade I am.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of donut options out there. Yeah, they know.
Speaker 1: I hope there's no brother named Krispy Kreme J Crew.
Speaker 1: Oh he just changed his name. He's now Froggy Fresh.
Speaker 1: I'm on Google. Oh that's a that's a non brother
Speaker 1: and he and he has I think a marijuana tattoo
Speaker 1: on his chest. It's not that gave it away. I
Speaker 1: don't know what that is, but or whatever. It's still one. Yeah, alright,
Speaker 1: cool question too, all right? Choice one backsplash p Choice
Speaker 1: Choice number two, Sugar Tongue Slim, what go ahead? And
Speaker 1: choice number three is the grind Boy, the grind Boys.
Speaker 1: That's you're both wrong again. That's flash pace, Sugar tongue Slim. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: I'm glad that home depot doing some repairs. Sugar tongue, Slim,
Speaker 1: look him up. Sugar tongue, Swim. That's it's sugar tongue.
Speaker 1: He probably believes he's fired with it. That's why he
Speaker 1: came with. That is a brother. Huh. He abbreviates sometimes
Speaker 1: sts what sometimes? How you do it? Sts? Alright? Ready,
Speaker 1: I know people, so right now, if I add up,
Speaker 1: y'all score zero. I said sugar, I said sugar. No, man,
Speaker 1: you said the grind Boy. Y'all were both like y'all
Speaker 1: won the lottery. Y'all were excited about the grind Boy.
Speaker 1: That's backstage Joe making it up. Bash. I'm gonna trying
Speaker 1: to get through this one, all right, let's go alright.
Speaker 1: Third question, Yeah, photo fresh f t z Ice. What
Speaker 1: or the last one? Fruit Kwan hope A fruit. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with fruit quin.
Speaker 1: That's real, Steve. What was the first one? The first photo?
Speaker 1: Fresh with the f it's fruit kwan. Oh, I'm on
Speaker 1: the boats. Fruit kuan fruit kwan say it with a
Speaker 1: what's his first name? I gotta, I gotta where did
Speaker 1: he grasp fruit kum from? What's this? What's his first
Speaker 1: what's what's his birth? It's one word fruit and kwan
Speaker 1: k w a n what's you spell? Kwan? Qualm like
Speaker 1: hit the qualm? Not that he's got. He's got, He's
Speaker 1: got a couple of albums life rightness? What's his real name? Fruit?
Speaker 1: To me? His real name is Arnold Hamilton's move on next,
Speaker 1: next round, So right now, g got a point. Steve's
Speaker 1: just happy to be here. Next one participation That little crampy,
Speaker 1: little crampy little crapper the rapper is that? Is that
Speaker 1: a fool? Is that the full thing? Or a little poopy?
Speaker 1: I know some I know a dude named Poopy. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna go a little poopy. I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: a little poopy correct little man on board because I
Speaker 1: know that I know somebody whose son name is Poopy
Speaker 1: and so god given name, I mean parents given name.
Speaker 1: Are they called him? That dude name is Poopy? He
Speaker 1: called we called them poopy? Yeah, call call Hank the
Speaker 1: Sun name is Poopy, but that's all I know him,
Speaker 1: is Poopy. Really, you got a lot of stuff on
Speaker 1: Poopy does poopy dot com. That's a different website now
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. Don't do that podcast. Last one.
Speaker 1: DJ Silky Chocolate, Oh you made that one up. I
Speaker 1: can tell you. I got DJ Peanut Butter Wolf, Peanut
Speaker 1: Butter Wolf or d J Smooth Caramel, the Light Skin player. Oh,
Speaker 1: that's real. It's Peanut butter Wolf. I got you all
Speaker 1: with the Light Skin players. Like I sold it. We
Speaker 1: were don't take de bait. You tried to suck into
Speaker 1: two lights game Brothers Step that was his rap name,
Speaker 1: Light Skin. He's all excited about it. We felt seen
Speaker 1: when you said when representation. So as I knew we're
Speaker 1: this upcoming episode, I'll just started. I'm like, what is this?
Speaker 1: I there? Man? I all right? Who we got coming
Speaker 1: up on the cut to It podcast, We've got Mr Cheeks,
Speaker 1: co founder of the legendary hip hop group Lost Boys.
Speaker 1: He's also a solo artist with four albums of his
Speaker 1: own and he's a native of Jamaica, Queens, New York.
Speaker 1: Mr Cheeks on the Cut to It Podcast Cut to
Speaker 1: It no question. Appreciate you having your boy LV and
Speaker 1: the building. You know, Let's get it, Let's get it,
Speaker 1: let's get it. Hey man, Well, our first segment is
Speaker 1: called get iced Up. It's our version of Icebreakers. We
Speaker 1: just gotta get We gotta set the scene for you.
Speaker 1: So there may be follow ups, there may not be.
Speaker 1: We're just gonna ask you some random questions. Just it everything,
Speaker 1: go and get the blood circulation. Gotta get you iced up,
Speaker 1: So SMOTHI go ahead and give him the first one,
Speaker 1: first rap song single. You remember when cassettes used to
Speaker 1: come out, So first cassette that you purchased or bought
Speaker 1: at the local barber shop, first hip hop cas set
Speaker 1: I brought, well, first um joined our guy was chubb Rock.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Chubb Rock was the first
Speaker 1: influence of Yeah, first record I bought, like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you know chub Rock. Uh see that you know that record?
Speaker 1: Do it do it again? That was all right, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you online ahead. Three is the magic number
Speaker 1: by okay, no question, no question. That's you bought with
Speaker 1: your own money. Yeah, okay, yeah, you remember singles. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's it wasn't the first when you
Speaker 1: heard it's just the first one you bought, put it
Speaker 1: in the record player, I mean put it in a
Speaker 1: cassette player. Three. Then the first one I ever would
Speaker 1: have been, uh, the first thing I have a ball with, stuggish,
Speaker 1: ruggish bone, the first one I bought. You already got reminiscent. Man.
Speaker 1: All right, your favorite TV show? You know, TV is
Speaker 1: bananas right now? So any TV shows you really into
Speaker 1: right now? Oh? Right now? Oh yeah, the Blacklist is crazy?
Speaker 1: Like that's when that is a real good one called
Speaker 1: O D that's hard. I haven't got into either. Well
Speaker 1: first eight all day, big fan of that. It's crazy,
Speaker 1: but I love I love the drama. On Sunday about
Speaker 1: seven or eight. I like watching Um Supermarket Sweet. You
Speaker 1: can watch the old one on Netflix. We got ninety
Speaker 1: threes backstage. Want the show. I'm really digging right now.
Speaker 1: Life was Life below zero? Oh yeah, that's that's hard.
Speaker 1: I was just looking at this world of my mother's
Speaker 1: checking out this this morning, she's going through the ill snowstorm,
Speaker 1: and had to I was a second that that's crazy.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go and get inside track. Uh, what
Speaker 1: Shorge do you hate doing? How Shorge just cleaning the
Speaker 1: dishes that they leave in the seat, You know that
Speaker 1: that's mainly, might might be other things, ain't nothing, how
Speaker 1: just cleaning the dishes When I wake up in the morning,
Speaker 1: I don't want to see all that death. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: we got the dishwasher, but you could throw that in
Speaker 1: there too. To tell me, she was like, we don't
Speaker 1: need a dishwashing washing. Yeah, that's what they did, all right.
Speaker 1: Last one, what's your hitting talent? My hidden talent? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: breakdancing kid, let's go um get well. I used to
Speaker 1: get my dad so happy. But you know, I do
Speaker 1: my regular two steps now. But back in the days, man,
Speaker 1: I was on the linoleum and let's I do had spend.
Speaker 1: Last time, I had a battle with my son. He's
Speaker 1: sixteen now. I did a battle of him and breakdan
Speaker 1: because they didn't believe it because I showed him, showed
Speaker 1: him a B street all right. He thought he thought
Speaker 1: he was knew he was doing. And you know, the
Speaker 1: dudes nowadays dance like ladies. Sometimes they're the same like
Speaker 1: we used to go. So I'm trying to tell him, listen,
Speaker 1: that's how we used to do it. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: but oh I did it has spending new You already
Speaker 1: know I need gate the whole day. Next day, you
Speaker 1: know I needed spending up. Of god, I was over
Speaker 1: forty crazy man, oh man, you know what. I actually
Speaker 1: have a Mr. Cheek story. So there's no way he's
Speaker 1: gonna remember this. But back in I think it had
Speaker 1: to be two thousand and one, uh huh. Here in
Speaker 1: North Carolina there's a big called super Jams and Greensboro.
Speaker 1: Mr Cheeks was the co headline. This is back during
Speaker 1: the lights, camera action stage or whatever. And so I'm
Speaker 1: sixteen maybe, and me and my friends were out and
Speaker 1: in Greensboro there's this main road called at that point
Speaker 1: in time, it was called City and so people you know,
Speaker 1: going back and forth leaving the coliseum, and so we're just,
Speaker 1: you know, parking lot, doing what you do because we
Speaker 1: can't get in anywhere with sixteen. And so we're sitting there,
Speaker 1: sitting on top of our cars, watching everyone go by.
Speaker 1: And the limo pulls up and the window rolls down
Speaker 1: and some stuff rolled out. I don't know what it was.
Speaker 1: I wasn't known enough back then, and everything comes out. Fall.
Speaker 1: It was fall. It was fall because it was so
Speaker 1: so the fog rolls out and and we see Mr
Speaker 1: Cheeks and we don't get excited. Is like four or
Speaker 1: five us, we're like, oh, Mr Cheeks. So we're like, hey,
Speaker 1: we're the party at Mr Cheeks. This is Mr cheeks response,
Speaker 1: he ride up the block, mother, and we all are like, yo,
Speaker 1: Mr Chicks, what's up? What's up with what? And he
Speaker 1: rolled the window back up and dipped on this man
Speaker 1: like he didn't even tell us what. He just said,
Speaker 1: ride up the block. So at sixteen true story, first interact.
Speaker 1: That is exactly what he said. He said, ride up
Speaker 1: the block, mother, roll the window back up, so basically
Speaker 1: trying to tell you you make your own party, welcome
Speaker 1: through the block. And we're like, yo, he just rolled
Speaker 1: up the windows. But that's that is my first interaction
Speaker 1: with the celebrity. Anything like that, Like that story is
Speaker 1: edged in my mind. And when we were getting ready
Speaker 1: for this, like I'm texting my friends, like you remember
Speaker 1: that time we saw Mr Cheeks and roll the window
Speaker 1: that everyone died laughing. That was it was, so this
Speaker 1: is the full moment. That's pretty cool. This is really cool.
Speaker 1: Well she got that's how I got my first start
Speaker 1: in the game too, And she ain't gave me one
Speaker 1: of those. I went, I made my way into the
Speaker 1: little More East. Yeah, I'm saying down back in the days,
Speaker 1: back when it was like eight and eighty nine, eight seven,
Speaker 1: shanned down by Law all that. It was just popping
Speaker 1: off on that all of that that world, man, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I went there and I
Speaker 1: went just to see if she shan't nice for photographing
Speaker 1: like that. Not that shame, but let's go, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. But I just knew hip hop was
Speaker 1: real right there. You know what I said. Oh man,
Speaker 1: that's crazy. Good stories. Alright, cool, So let's get into
Speaker 1: it time. You know you already said it. But I
Speaker 1: love to always ask. We already start off with this,
Speaker 1: And where are you from? Your place you call your hometown,
Speaker 1: no doubt Among towns South Jamaica, Queens, South bows On
Speaker 1: Park one one thirty second Street one to you have it,
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Shouts to the Kellys and all
Speaker 1: of that. You know what I'm saying. My grandfather, grandmother, well,
Speaker 1: they gave him New Orleans, baby. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: How we got to New York is a long story,
Speaker 1: but I can. I can bring it down. Grandpap slapped
Speaker 1: the white lady and got us out of town. I bean, yeah,
Speaker 1: especially back then, that to make it relocate. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: matter what time, that don't matter what time of a year.
Speaker 1: That's right there. Yeah, that's that's that's run for your
Speaker 1: life right here. Yeah, established in uh Queens, New York.
Speaker 1: Had a few of had a few beauty salons out
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn, Red Hook, Brooklyn. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And uh, my grandfather and grandmother has um nine kids,
Speaker 1: seven girls, two boys, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 1: my mom's is dying. And she raised me as a
Speaker 1: single moms of course, well not of course, but you know,
Speaker 1: it came it came to be like that, you know,
Speaker 1: and she was hard working hold us down. I got
Speaker 1: I got um uh one sister, three brothers, you know,
Speaker 1: and I'm a grand pops and all of that. You know,
Speaker 1: I've got two grandkids and all of that. So oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just from South Jamaica, Queens. I made my mark
Speaker 1: in the game with the Lost Boys. I'm the lead
Speaker 1: artists of the hip hop group Lost Boys. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We've got some joints on our belt
Speaker 1: from music made me high to clap your hands to
Speaker 1: like Renee uh Lex School's Beamings and Ben's you know
Speaker 1: lights camera action. I got a few joints under my
Speaker 1: belt and yeah, I represent South Jamaica queens all day.
Speaker 1: Every day we have to take a break and the
Speaker 1: morning thing, we gotta pay some bills. You got checks.
Speaker 1: I love cut to It and I love it even
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Speaker 1: I got all my answers questions. Um, yeah, I got
Speaker 1: all my questions answered. That's what I'm here for, a brother,
Speaker 1: cut to a podcast dot Com. So growing up in
Speaker 1: Jamaica queens, I mean it's kind of a loaded question,
Speaker 1: but I'll ask it because I grew up in l A.
Speaker 1: I'm from l A and it helped me and hurt
Speaker 1: me at times, depending back. So how did how did
Speaker 1: it growing up at Jamaica Queens help you and hurt
Speaker 1: you as a kid because you're a grandfather now so
Speaker 1: you wisdom, you don't get the tooth. I'm yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: Queen's helping me. And um, well, like you say, like
Speaker 1: I'm from Queens. So it wasn't like it was a
Speaker 1: really major like in the in the music well in
Speaker 1: the music game and hip hop came and things like
Speaker 1: that to like ll co J freaking frag and on
Speaker 1: you know, Mikey D and things like that. Well, I'm
Speaker 1: just thinking of people up the top of my neighborhood
Speaker 1: and things that made the Queens made me want to
Speaker 1: be a rapper from from Queens because Queens always getting
Speaker 1: you on though, right, So being from Queens has made
Speaker 1: me strong as farther as like get at let's get
Speaker 1: at it, you know what I'm saying, as far as
Speaker 1: like yo, hold up, there ain't nothing sweet about Queens
Speaker 1: and say Queens Niga, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: we go through some sometimes soup just like any every borough,
Speaker 1: any other state, any anywhere, you know what I'm say,
Speaker 1: any of the hood, and we just that that just
Speaker 1: made us want to be like that though. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, um just did did not disrespect, but
Speaker 1: not to really respect. We needed like so we have
Speaker 1: to make going way and being from Queens made you
Speaker 1: want to do that. Anyway you go. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You're from Queens. You go to Hall and
Speaker 1: you go to the Brooklyn, you go to the Brown.
Speaker 1: You gotta show yours and something pop off. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Because I done some niggas and queens,
Speaker 1: but we came, We came in the game and we
Speaker 1: earned our key from all of that. And that's just
Speaker 1: what it was like Lors Spoils before these rappers. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We have to scuffle our way
Speaker 1: into the game or the streets and make our name. No,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. We just want to wrap
Speaker 1: and ship like that and earn our key. So whatever
Speaker 1: it toothing to do that, we did that. So it's
Speaker 1: it's interesting playing in sports. You know, there's summer camps,
Speaker 1: there's high school j V. Right, there's Little League Pop Warner,
Speaker 1: you get coached. There is no farm system in in wrap,
Speaker 1: there is no pop, there is no there's no developmental lead.
Speaker 1: There's no developmental there's no like you know you, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sign no Blue Gerard on how to be
Speaker 1: a better you know, how to be a rap rap game.
Speaker 1: Ain't gotta au right right, no doubt. Yeah, was the
Speaker 1: process like for you individually? Because everybody has a different story.
Speaker 1: It's like this. I was in high school. I was
Speaker 1: in John Adams High School playing for the junior varsity
Speaker 1: football team and my brother signed. Uh what position? I was?
Speaker 1: Running back? Kick work? Yeah, footwork. I was first. I
Speaker 1: scored the first touchdown john John Adams High School back
Speaker 1: in the eighties, six or something like that. What was it?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I really know the places my brother.
Speaker 1: My brother used to be the half back, so musr
Speaker 1: polam over knocked them down. Hey, just doing it man,
Speaker 1: But it's one night I caught that concussion. It was
Speaker 1: over because you noticed he said I was JV here.
Speaker 1: He said, none about arsen I don't know bay Side.
Speaker 1: If you knew about New York football. Day signed high school?
Speaker 1: Was you know what I'm saying. No Niggers came over
Speaker 1: there and showed me some work. I was like, oh, ship,
Speaker 1: but but football that maybe you want to rap though,
Speaker 1: I was like them years. I was like, um, it
Speaker 1: was like heavy ding the boys. So on Pepper, Oh man,
Speaker 1: they that's what you want to make you rap because
Speaker 1: it was remember so Pepper came through with that red
Speaker 1: BMW and all of that. I was like, I got
Speaker 1: to get it. I just wanted to be a part
Speaker 1: of that world. So, like you said, it ain't it ain't.
Speaker 1: Wasn't no school for that. So but we had we
Speaker 1: had a readings. We had to go. We have to
Speaker 1: go to the park James. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: the block parties. You have to go to the battles
Speaker 1: with Grandmasters Vic and like Spengee. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It was they was doing um you know, the pup
Speaker 1: jams ship. So they give you the mic if you
Speaker 1: was hot enough, they give you the mike and um
Speaker 1: from this day on, you know Fragile starred Onyx. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's my main man. We grew up. We was the
Speaker 1: Niggas and queens. We was the nigga was holding it down.
Speaker 1: And another dude from our herd name p I legendary.
Speaker 1: But um, that's where I got it from. Man going
Speaker 1: to arm school and after the holidays. You know, Rock
Speaker 1: Kemmen and Big Daddy came up, come out with a record,
Speaker 1: and then Queens Niggers compared. You know Rock I made
Speaker 1: from Queens, but Queens didn't though he was a Queens.
Speaker 1: There let's go. But that's how are you right? So
Speaker 1: we would we would compared Rock kem the kame you know,
Speaker 1: all of that came about. But you know, just when
Speaker 1: your work played together from a kid LLL COO, J
Speaker 1: I'm bad and all of that, like you wanted to know.
Speaker 1: I learned that, Like I just wanted to learn, right,
Speaker 1: be the illest writer or the illest lyricists or whatever,
Speaker 1: and that I could. But you know what I'm saying, Um,
Speaker 1: that's where it came about. That's the school you go to.
Speaker 1: You little to different games like the Gavin out in
Speaker 1: New Orleans. How can I be down down in Atlanta?
Speaker 1: You know, it was a bunch of things that all
Speaker 1: the Rappids go with the conventions and all of that.
Speaker 1: That's how I did it though, with all of that
Speaker 1: going on as you are moving up in the battle
Speaker 1: game and all stuff. Yeah, you got you Mr Cheeks
Speaker 1: the Lost Boys. But I want to know what were
Speaker 1: some of the names that never made the menu. When
Speaker 1: y'all were thinking about y'all your names like Lost Boys, Mr.
Speaker 1: The Lost Boys about Yeah, I have the Lost Boys
Speaker 1: come about? And what was some of the failed names
Speaker 1: that y'all were like, No, we can't have that name. Oh,
Speaker 1: we didn't really had too many failed names. We just
Speaker 1: grew up out of the names. Really. Yeah, I tell
Speaker 1: you from from from a nigga who was in aigger
Speaker 1: because it was it was in a nigger. That's who
Speaker 1: was a State fresh crew. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But when we've seen the movie The Lost Boys, that's
Speaker 1: what we thought you was. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we was running around the hood like them niggers on
Speaker 1: the bike, stealing, causing younger, younger, younger days, you know,
Speaker 1: having fun, having fun, you know, I know, incriminate yourself
Speaker 1: on this recording. There's podcast this is a no indictment, Yeah,
Speaker 1: no intment podcast, door checks and alway, oh man. But now,
Speaker 1: we used to watch the movie a lot, and we
Speaker 1: used to feel like them, and we saw, you know,
Speaker 1: uh it's running around smoking weed. As we was making music.
Speaker 1: It was like we we kind of like the White Book,
Speaker 1: like the Lost Boys, the White Dudes, but we not know,
Speaker 1: you know, no vampires, but we come in later. That
Speaker 1: name we don't like when the sun is on. That
Speaker 1: just young dudes bugging back. But we threw the Z
Speaker 1: from the UH. We put the L S T B
Speaker 1: O Y Z because the Z meant the zooe. We
Speaker 1: was always in. It was always in channel zero and
Speaker 1: you know on our vibes as well. That's on our own,
Speaker 1: our own where we used to be in the back
Speaker 1: streets getting our hit again on music together. When we
Speaker 1: came from like uh summer school and all of that,
Speaker 1: it was a crazy time. So that's what we gotta.
Speaker 1: Really got it from the law school. Just put that
Speaker 1: Z on the back of that S and I just
Speaker 1: made it run and we just we did it. We
Speaker 1: had beef over that name with dudes and the Bronx
Speaker 1: and all that. For the Lost Boys came out standing,
Speaker 1: hard body, no doubt Lost Wards around the world. But
Speaker 1: you know, we have to definitely go hard to keep
Speaker 1: that name and be what it is. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, y'all had to and your and your influence
Speaker 1: on the rap game is do you feel like sometimes
Speaker 1: it gets overlooked hell yeah, you already know. I get
Speaker 1: mad at niggers. I'll be like ya, hold up, I'll
Speaker 1: be seeing mad at pop joints. They don't never throw
Speaker 1: no low sport. And I'm like, your hold on, what's
Speaker 1: going on here? We ain't made no bankers. We got
Speaker 1: a catalog. I know there's a lot of people that
Speaker 1: be giving up mad prostitutes that I got two records,
Speaker 1: Steve Records were up right. They be saluting these dudes
Speaker 1: like they made joints. Y'all be like your hold on?
Speaker 1: Came We're still banging out a bay Man stop playing.
Speaker 1: But you know I ain't gonna know. I ain't got
Speaker 1: no problem with it. I'm just saying they will notice,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That's why I'm still at it.
Speaker 1: That's what I think. I'm still doing what I'm doing,
Speaker 1: So I'm still on the cut to it. Do it's
Speaker 1: now right here, you're here. But I find it fascinating
Speaker 1: because you meant a lot like the park jams, all
Speaker 1: of these things that were essential to the essence of
Speaker 1: hip hop as as a true and you were right
Speaker 1: there in the middle of it. Your uncle is also
Speaker 1: Jill Scott heron Gil Scott doubt talk a little bit
Speaker 1: about his influence to you and and and you just
Speaker 1: kind of being up under his his leadership and this guy, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, just being around Uncle was ill. You know,
Speaker 1: um before you do his shows and things like that.
Speaker 1: When he comes, I'll go to the crib helping them
Speaker 1: move from just growing up here and this music on
Speaker 1: his um performances as a youngster, you know, uh, just
Speaker 1: help them help me even more influence of my music music,
Speaker 1: musical talents. I guess you know I used to singing
Speaker 1: all that. But I'm not saying I used to sing.
Speaker 1: I'm saying I used to background singing for my cousins
Speaker 1: to him. And you know, when when new addition came out,
Speaker 1: you know, everybody wanted to be a groupe, right, That's
Speaker 1: really like, well a little started, but Uncle always held
Speaker 1: it down. You know what I'm saying, Uncle Gil Scott
Speaker 1: hard body man mad. I mean, there are these things
Speaker 1: on on with him and all of that, but he
Speaker 1: was definitely a talented man and the great musician, great
Speaker 1: artists man, you know. And that's the speddled for that, really,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And it's just like he's
Speaker 1: just sitting on he's just seing me. Man, that's Uncle Gil.
Speaker 1: If you get a chance, check him out on the
Speaker 1: on Prime. On Prime. He got the new joint black Wax.
Speaker 1: If you've never seen that, check that out, no doubt.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he was good, he was just it was
Speaker 1: just something what it is, man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: A good influence? Man, How hard was it for you,
Speaker 1: you know, to get in and get signed by rapper label?
Speaker 1: Everybody's fire, yeah, everybody, everybody's a bees yeah right, Well
Speaker 1: then back then when it's not, when it's not, I'm
Speaker 1: sure we'll get to this later, but it wasn't as accessible, right,
Speaker 1: Like everybody you got soundclouds, you got Instagram, you got
Speaker 1: all these different things. But yeah, gives point. How how
Speaker 1: are you able to obtain a recording contract back then? Oh? Man?
Speaker 1: It took. It took to gritting your talent and to
Speaker 1: you know, you know, your confidence. Man. Like back in
Speaker 1: the days, man, we used to go to like it
Speaker 1: wasn't just lost boys, right yeah, red Man, you had
Speaker 1: all Keith, Mary, all of us was going at it.
Speaker 1: So with all that talent in the game, nobody's sounding
Speaker 1: the same. It's different. Flavors every way you look. It's different.
Speaker 1: Nig is rapping about different things and different from from
Speaker 1: PM Dawn to like you said, doys effects, trickal quest.
Speaker 1: It was mad, different things popping. You got you got
Speaker 1: the gangster ship out in l A where you was
Speaker 1: at car and n w A come on man, hundred
Speaker 1: miles and running like you don't listen, Man, listen is real.
Speaker 1: Hip hop and music is just so it's so warm.
Speaker 1: It's just so influencial. You know what I'm saying. Just
Speaker 1: maybe just I'm happy I'm be a part of this.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's not just it's just smaller.
Speaker 1: It's more than just rapping about you know, the struggles
Speaker 1: and all. Like you said, you can talk about your lady,
Speaker 1: were talking about politics, you talked about anything in the
Speaker 1: rap game. Mean, I mean when you take your time
Speaker 1: out and really write music is different like anybody like
Speaker 1: you said, anybody could rap, but it's like yo, when
Speaker 1: you really put your pen down to the paper and
Speaker 1: believe think about you know what I'm saying right down
Speaker 1: was really like I don't know, man, I'm different. I
Speaker 1: don't I don't freestyle when I rap. I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't freestyle the album. I don't fee y'all. I'm putting
Speaker 1: my pen to the paper. So I'm used to that
Speaker 1: and being back in it from back in the days. Man,
Speaker 1: that's what you had to do though, like you have
Speaker 1: to have skills, you know what I'm saying, And I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying the game changed like that, but it's like, yes, outside,
Speaker 1: I gotta ask the game. Like, listen to you, you
Speaker 1: had Life's camera, actually have renee. But in between the
Speaker 1: course it was actual words, lyricism, lyricism, lyricism. Now you
Speaker 1: listen to music, the whole song, it's course yeah m hm,
Speaker 1: not putting you on the spot of you know, down plane,
Speaker 1: the Curse of vers of course, no question, no course
Speaker 1: for listening to rap. Now, some some artists, you can't
Speaker 1: tell between the course, hook, the hook, the bridge. You can't.
Speaker 1: I don't. I can't separate it. It's like it's all
Speaker 1: the same, right, It's like through the whole song and
Speaker 1: it's not even a real sixteen bars. No, it's like
Speaker 1: two bars. M hmm. It's like the game got like
Speaker 1: remember we had three verses in your records. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: don't do that. No more. They can try to get
Speaker 1: away with one verse and slid. It's like, huh, they're
Speaker 1: they're successfully doing it. They yeah, they win because the
Speaker 1: niggas ain't got time to be listening to the whole
Speaker 1: stories no more. And it just like this now, niggas,
Speaker 1: what the bag went? Everything is so fast next forgot
Speaker 1: about what it is though, Like the game they changing
Speaker 1: so far that they fed these niggas or they fed
Speaker 1: all this like uh yeah, it's all about And the
Speaker 1: radio stations don't even give you you know, you wait,
Speaker 1: are you gonna wake up to them and take your
Speaker 1: kids to school or whatever? Yeah, and nigga talking about
Speaker 1: I don't even know. I don't want to throw it
Speaker 1: out because I don't be really, I'll be hearing the
Speaker 1: records on the way shoot in the radio, y'all playing
Speaker 1: joint what they're doing, man, I say, but now, but
Speaker 1: I'm just different in the game in the morning and
Speaker 1: they talk about give me, I'm like, yo, let's get
Speaker 1: over there. But it's just different, man on. The game
Speaker 1: is not the same. Man. I mean a lot of
Speaker 1: people that used to really care about the game, the
Speaker 1: xex and all of that, they don't care no more.
Speaker 1: They care about YouTube, light blue pikes and all of that.
Speaker 1: It's not really it's not even about like talent them are.
Speaker 1: It's about likes and ship like the chicken that glue ahead.
Speaker 1: If this is coming out with a record, Niggers, get
Speaker 1: out my fish man. I if these they just get this,
Speaker 1: this that got the river blue tap to the head,
Speaker 1: y'all wowing. Man, that's how easy it is. Man. You
Speaker 1: back in the days you had to work for. We
Speaker 1: made man. We had to work for like when you now,
Speaker 1: I worked for talking with y'all. Right now it's twenty
Speaker 1: I put my first, my first record out in. Let's
Speaker 1: shoot that in twenty one. I'm talking to Motherfucky Steve Smith. Nigger. Yes,
Speaker 1: that big fence, you already know that. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying that love to the face, shout out said man. Whatever,
Speaker 1: I'm cutting through it on, I'm cutting to it in.
Speaker 1: I think what you're saying is it's the longevity, right
Speaker 1: like the Jays wrapping now is still rapping. They have longevity.
Speaker 1: They still have the storytelling them. They still have the
Speaker 1: history and the and and paint. How much of the
Speaker 1: game right now is I hear exactly what you're saying, no,
Speaker 1: The point is people are just taking advantage of that
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. Yeah, microwave generation instant noodles. Because but here's
Speaker 1: the thing, you though. Then they get and I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna name a person, but they take four years and
Speaker 1: they save up and they and they take all their
Speaker 1: money and they get a diamond impressed in their forehead.
Speaker 1: Oh man, we just go different ship. Yeah, it's different.
Speaker 1: It's different. It's different. It's different. Every time I see
Speaker 1: the Homeboy with that in his head, and now I
Speaker 1: think about, you know, my man from the the the
Speaker 1: when the superhero ship pull that out of his head,
Speaker 1: like the Avengers Vengers, like yo, that the Avenger joining
Speaker 1: is head. That's crazy because it's putting the vengeer joints
Speaker 1: in their head. It's cool. I'm just I'm just rock
Speaker 1: these gold teeth man smoke this league. The moral of
Speaker 1: that story is it's his rock stars. You gotta forgetta
Speaker 1: remember now what happened to music videos? Man? I grew
Speaker 1: up watching Jukebox, oh man, or the Basement. You're on
Speaker 1: TV jams? You know what? Why why are music videos gone?
Speaker 1: With them? Shows? At right? Yeah? Well, yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: know what those shows are either, But why what why
Speaker 1: you used to make a song? When you did a song,
Speaker 1: you had to follow up with a music video because
Speaker 1: if your music video sometimes the music video, what show
Speaker 1: your actual song? That that's how people That's how some
Speaker 1: people consumed it. Yeah, the vision invidual. Like so, how
Speaker 1: how has it? I mean, if you don't mind breaking
Speaker 1: it down, like just really how the game has changed?
Speaker 1: The money? The money because because everyone thinks every rapper
Speaker 1: that has made it has that bag, and that's the case,
Speaker 1: there's a lot. I mean, you look at Tony Braxton,
Speaker 1: you look at some of these some of these artists
Speaker 1: who's who have had multiple albums who later come out
Speaker 1: and they say, hey, a bad contract or the or
Speaker 1: the deal was not what I thought it was. Um.
Speaker 1: Then you and then you hear some yeah, and you
Speaker 1: hear some people they're talking about how you know, going
Speaker 1: on tours, the way you make your money. I just
Speaker 1: I just want to know, like how is it changing
Speaker 1: how you know for the good and the bad or
Speaker 1: and why is all this stuff everybody think like like football,
Speaker 1: there's fifty three guys on the roster, but they're really
Speaker 1: only about twelve guys making bookoo. Then then the other
Speaker 1: forties something of them. Uh, they don't. All right, you
Speaker 1: know they're they're they're doctors and lawyers, but but they
Speaker 1: they aren't multimillionaires that people assume they are. It's a
Speaker 1: different game, brother, know what I'm saying, Like we were
Speaker 1: in the game, you have to go to labels and
Speaker 1: get dells and fight food. And you know, now, like
Speaker 1: I said, it's like it's just giving out the money
Speaker 1: right now, whatever sticks to the wall. Bang. You know,
Speaker 1: That's how I look at I ain't even mad at
Speaker 1: saying that. But when you say they're giving money, you know,
Speaker 1: not not using yourself as an example, but now you
Speaker 1: can use me an example. I'm saying that mistakes. No, No,
Speaker 1: I know, I'm just talking about as far as like,
Speaker 1: what's what is you're saying they're giving money away? What's
Speaker 1: a lucrative deal that that you're hearing that that's out there?
Speaker 1: They're lucrative deal? They got the three sixties going on
Speaker 1: and feeling No, I don't over yeah, explained explained to us.
Speaker 1: You asked me, I'll feeling you I don't. They're taking
Speaker 1: all your show money. They're giving you the biggest shows
Speaker 1: because they're taking some of that money. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is what it is. They give you budget because they're
Speaker 1: getting their money at the see what the rectors do?
Speaker 1: You know, like like it always been. But I really
Speaker 1: ain't been in the industry, so I ain't really been
Speaker 1: in the game. I I'm on label and all that.
Speaker 1: I know my own little routes that I'm taking the
Speaker 1: way to sell records and all that, so I can explain.
Speaker 1: I really like when they're giving out these deals down
Speaker 1: three sixty. When they see three sixty, like I said,
Speaker 1: they're taking most of them. It's really like not not
Speaker 1: you're like everything. It's like when you do shows, you
Speaker 1: don't you don't give you a label the money. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. When you do you sell the merchandise,
Speaker 1: you don't get a lab. Label, don't get that money.
Speaker 1: I mean yours that's supposed to be you all day.
Speaker 1: But now they got Like I said, you might have
Speaker 1: to talk somebody else I know about the really to
Speaker 1: the three sixty. But like I said, I'll mean, I
Speaker 1: am in the game and about what the industry industry.
Speaker 1: I've been to my own runs, doing my own thing.
Speaker 1: Mown still popping in but they ain't really like with
Speaker 1: a label and all of that song of my own
Speaker 1: label and my own you know, my own backing since
Speaker 1: when we's doing it. So but it's just like, yo,
Speaker 1: the games is mad different, man. I can't really explain
Speaker 1: it because I ain't really playing that game with them
Speaker 1: no more, you know. But like I said on what
Speaker 1: you say, would you say that guys are in the
Speaker 1: rap game right now? Not everybody? You know, we're not
Speaker 1: talking about the Drakes. We're not talking about the Kendrick
Speaker 1: of Mars. You're not talking about the big guys. We're
Speaker 1: talking about the middle of the road guys. Right they're
Speaker 1: looking apart. But it doesn't always equal up to the park, fast, fast, fast,
Speaker 1: a lot of line going on, a lot of front,
Speaker 1: a lot of bullshit, a lot of cloud chasing. We
Speaker 1: get it, we get it, but sometimes you gotta fake
Speaker 1: it to make it. You know. I think it's about
Speaker 1: that time. Just take a little breather, do it good,
Speaker 1: do it. Let's getting down to do it good. Hey Gerard,
Speaker 1: why did you get that T shirt? You mean this thing?
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Speaker 1: our guys at seven or four shot. But yeah, you
Speaker 1: can go on, buy you a T shirt, subscribe to
Speaker 1: us wherever you listen to podcasts. There's so much music
Speaker 1: out there, it's really hard to know who's successful and
Speaker 1: who's not. And I was gonna say that now, the
Speaker 1: way that you consume, in the way that it's put
Speaker 1: out like this, the whole streaming platforms, it's it's a
Speaker 1: lot to choose from. But then I think also what
Speaker 1: both of y'all are saying is it seems like that's
Speaker 1: changed the game too, Like the streaming be good or
Speaker 1: bad for for the music industry. Like you said, it's
Speaker 1: like it's both ways. Man. You know it's good. That's
Speaker 1: good for me, Nail, they got they got the spot fire,
Speaker 1: you know, we use all of that. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess it's good. But then it's also bad because god
Speaker 1: damn man, you get anybody can sell a record head?
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know, man, I don't know it.
Speaker 1: I ain't know like music that be hating music. I'm asking.
Speaker 1: I'm asking because you just going back in the day.
Speaker 1: First of all, it popped upside the head. If you
Speaker 1: are to more than one juwbox, Uh, was that like
Speaker 1: the mail thing. No jukebox was back in the day,
Speaker 1: juke box for for Cali dudes was you watch television
Speaker 1: and you can for ninety nine in or to nine
Speaker 1: feels a feature. You call in and you request the
Speaker 1: box that music video or that song, right, yeah, And
Speaker 1: that's how they do it now. With streaming, you just
Speaker 1: you just downloaded, pay you pay, or whatever the case
Speaker 1: may be, and you can download whatever you want. And
Speaker 1: if it's a feature and it just comes out, you
Speaker 1: can download it early, you know, pay for it. And
Speaker 1: I just and I just see that things are different.
Speaker 1: And so being a old school cat, you that have
Speaker 1: had a number of rectors, when somebody downloads it yours,
Speaker 1: you get the residual, but you capture Back in the day,
Speaker 1: you were able to capture that information. Right now, it
Speaker 1: seems like the it seems like it's harder to understand
Speaker 1: how they capture it because it's so much. With that
Speaker 1: twenty dollars a month, I can get I can download
Speaker 1: as much as I want. You got peloton, right, I
Speaker 1: get on the peloton. I'm I'm whatever. Right. It just
Speaker 1: seems it just seems as music has still stayed the
Speaker 1: same with expression Yeah, the way you can consume it
Speaker 1: around the world is different, right, It's all the strange man.
Speaker 1: And and the question becomes what is the cost of
Speaker 1: a stream And that's a that's an open ended question,
Speaker 1: but it goes it goes back to from an artist perspective,
Speaker 1: like Mr Cheesus is talking about like I'm sure you
Speaker 1: you knew back in the day, all right, I'm selling
Speaker 1: the CD. I get it, I get a cut of
Speaker 1: the CD. But now it is it is very different
Speaker 1: in in the means of the streaming has just changed
Speaker 1: the way that people consume and the way that people purchase.
Speaker 1: I just remember, like when you can buy an album,
Speaker 1: then you can buy an album really enjoy an album.
Speaker 1: No fact, you don't fast forward no records. Man. Yeah
Speaker 1: it's a lost there's a lot of lost, man. But
Speaker 1: it's still out there though. Don't get it twisted, because
Speaker 1: it's some good artists that's still got albums out, Like
Speaker 1: you know, she Loon got a new album out, she
Speaker 1: Loo uh uh, Floyd Fluss has got his tent underground.
Speaker 1: Should uh I love so much you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying that I saw. I just want to shut shout
Speaker 1: that up. South those out the underground still is as
Speaker 1: prominent as it is. The problem is coming back, man.
Speaker 1: I mean, like you know, several times it's like the
Speaker 1: several of the things that go down and is on
Speaker 1: his way back, the boom back on air stuff. Yeah, yo,
Speaker 1: check this out, my man. You know, Brucy b You're
Speaker 1: the original, you know, from wild Style and all that.
Speaker 1: Bucy I mean not Brucy be Busy bes busy be.
Speaker 1: He gotta wreck it out right now that they really
Speaker 1: paying attention to it. But it's so hard, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's like it's like we don't really
Speaker 1: pay attention to all like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: music like we usual because it's not really out there
Speaker 1: too for us to get or to hear because they're
Speaker 1: so flooded with everything else right now. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, It's like look away from the realhood, the
Speaker 1: classic ways of making music and really putting the network
Speaker 1: and the track from Pete Rocking, you know what I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: oh man, oh ship. But I don't mean to jimple
Speaker 1: of the course, but yeah, I missed music like that,
Speaker 1: and uh, it's on his way back. Don't trust me
Speaker 1: that I mean like when you were when you were
Speaker 1: growing up talking about music on his way back. How
Speaker 1: thick and legitimate was the East Coast versus West Coast beef?
Speaker 1: How dick was it? Yeah? Because you know sometimes people
Speaker 1: be like it wasn't legit, it was just awful. It
Speaker 1: was all authentic. Yes, it was just all for It
Speaker 1: was all for show. It wasn't all for show because
Speaker 1: two niggas died right now. Man, that ship wasn't no show.
Speaker 1: Chip is real, but it was a real beef. I
Speaker 1: mean it wasn't. It wasn't really like no Willie I
Speaker 1: would beef me. But we was back in biggie because
Speaker 1: he was on the East Coast and Nigga's that was
Speaker 1: with Topac's back and pop over there me. But you
Speaker 1: know the let me tell you the beauty, the beautiful
Speaker 1: thing about that East Coast was coast. Me and the
Speaker 1: motherfucking dog Pound Shot music made Hi remix l in
Speaker 1: l A together East Coast, West Coast while that beef
Speaker 1: was going on him saying, so it wasn't really like
Speaker 1: it was like did he and show ship and a
Speaker 1: lot of people got caught between that ship. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying I mean, I'm not saying it like that,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying it, but you're saying that it was. Man,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of other ship, not the main characters.
Speaker 1: They didn't tupac Beef. They had the music going on,
Speaker 1: but other elements came about, you know, but it seemed
Speaker 1: like because of the Beef that the realness and the
Speaker 1: hard work. East Coast tried to outwork West Coast. West
Speaker 1: Coast tried to outwork. Yeah, the music was so direct
Speaker 1: but also so original, so creative, because whatever you came
Speaker 1: out with, then that side of the Coast had to
Speaker 1: come back, come back to something more substance, and then
Speaker 1: and then it burned for more because like like Mistership
Speaker 1: is saying too like I think they were able to
Speaker 1: merge them in the Dog Pound were able to merge,
Speaker 1: and then later on then you got the South Rise
Speaker 1: and the Right like you got you got outcasts came
Speaker 1: into the even having that, but still you're able to
Speaker 1: birth other projects and other places from the country able
Speaker 1: to to bring about good music as well. That's a fact.
Speaker 1: You know. We're gonna do one that we love calls
Speaker 1: called DP three Man and just it's you know, just
Speaker 1: about you and their inner perspective. What advice would you
Speaker 1: give a young rapper starting out today? You know, stay
Speaker 1: original man, be original in the game. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I mean, go your own way, man, and
Speaker 1: don't get distracted tracts because the game is crazy, you
Speaker 1: might get distracted. Don't get distracted at all, Kay, just
Speaker 1: keep following and going for what you believe in and
Speaker 1: you understand what you what you want to do is
Speaker 1: what you You know what I'm saying, that's something what
Speaker 1: you your way of life and where you want to
Speaker 1: carry on through your journey. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But definitely don't get distracted and the original keep that
Speaker 1: fire in you man. Go hard. That's bottom nine. Like
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know it took us ten
Speaker 1: years to make that one record. Like styles that mention shameless,
Speaker 1: So I mean we was doing that. We was making records,
Speaker 1: were making records. It's like what eighty seven, so you know,
Speaker 1: things just we developed into becoming the lotst boys that
Speaker 1: and this. We went hard and we got that album there,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about, Like he was working
Speaker 1: our way up there and it took us ten years.
Speaker 1: Aget established and go and bang out with Tim Dog
Speaker 1: and them and get a record there, to make one
Speaker 1: record from eight these eighty six eighty seven and ship
Speaker 1: like that. You started making music at what fifteen years
Speaker 1: old in fact, So it just took us a while
Speaker 1: to get to one of the be So never give
Speaker 1: up type ship. You know what I'm saying. You gotta
Speaker 1: go through it to get to it. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Got you so if you hadn't become a rapper,
Speaker 1: what would you have done? Oh? Man, I probably claimed
Speaker 1: ball basketball That is not football, not football. We knew
Speaker 1: that early. Like yo, yeah baby, okay, okay, I still
Speaker 1: man to man. When when you get back in the
Speaker 1: COVID is old meet you down here. Okay, come on here,
Speaker 1: no chucks, you better come some real basketball shoots. I'm
Speaker 1: coming out with the Air Force ones hot top. This
Speaker 1: is North Carolina. It's to Bacco Road. We can go
Speaker 1: with the r C. Wallace's Baby. I know what you're saying.
Speaker 1: I don't tell you. I'm gonna tell you right now
Speaker 1: because my son is getting taller than me, and I
Speaker 1: told this morning he did something. I was in the pantry,
Speaker 1: you trunk tell you. Look, I ain't gonna low Bridge.
Speaker 1: I'm tack but you ain't dunking. You better know it better, Hey,
Speaker 1: Mr Cheeks, and I know you you Paul come, your
Speaker 1: little skinny as trying to dunk on you better put
Speaker 1: it in them out, Please take out some golds now
Speaker 1: I'm hitting them three something another word, I'm doing the
Speaker 1: light do It's like that in other words? You don't
Speaker 1: want those? Yeah, he trying to ice up. No, Steve,
Speaker 1: you and mamam cotting Steve Marley, I know them. You're
Speaker 1: not let you do. You know that, but you're gonna
Speaker 1: run and tell everybody right, so you're not doing nothing
Speaker 1: on the right. I understand. I understand, and so I
Speaker 1: take it from over here and bing bing, I shoot
Speaker 1: the lights out there. Oh okay, listen, she's got range.
Speaker 1: You already do our last one? Man, is it's more
Speaker 1: of a thing. Is it's less of of a question.
Speaker 1: I can tell you this, um, And I told you
Speaker 1: when I was when I was on your show. But man,
Speaker 1: I grew up listening to to your songs man and
Speaker 1: Renee renew Renee was one of the songs man that
Speaker 1: I just remember, and it just um, you know, growing
Speaker 1: up on the West coast. There was this West coast field.
Speaker 1: You weren't really allowed to really like other other folks
Speaker 1: stuff on the East coast, Man, but Renee was one
Speaker 1: of those things. And that's all meant something. You can
Speaker 1: tell that's meant something, and it was. It was really cool, man,
Speaker 1: And I and I and I just want to thank you,
Speaker 1: because when you look at the rap game, you look
Speaker 1: at some of the stuff that's out there, Man, it
Speaker 1: is hard to listen to. It's sometimes you'll find yourself
Speaker 1: saying some stuff where you find yourself thinking you're like
Speaker 1: and I questioned where this is coming from. It was
Speaker 1: coming from a place, and a lot of your music
Speaker 1: comes from place of where you were in life. But
Speaker 1: then also what you experience, you experience the loss, your
Speaker 1: experience love, you experience relationship, man, and and that's what
Speaker 1: music really is about. When you go when you when
Speaker 1: you break it down, it goes back into experiences and
Speaker 1: you let us you gave us a peek into the
Speaker 1: window of your experience, you know. So I just want
Speaker 1: to tell you, man for for me growing up and
Speaker 1: being able to do this podcast and talk to talk
Speaker 1: to current players and entertainers, but also being able to
Speaker 1: talk to the right man. It's it's an honor and
Speaker 1: the privilege in this respect facts man, so love man,
Speaker 1: it's all a blessing. Man. We keep it like this,
Speaker 1: it's gonna just be. It ain't the old game. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, I appreciate that that I
Speaker 1: gonna write music for us, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I ain't just write that for me, man, It's definitely
Speaker 1: when I write my music, I'm writing for every brother
Speaker 1: and if you if you if you rock them with me,
Speaker 1: well if you're not. You know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: know some people that have been through what I've been through.
Speaker 1: So I definitely trying to put that into the to
Speaker 1: my my music all day every day, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I write for us, brother, I write
Speaker 1: for us, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, who was
Speaker 1: the most important artist to you growing up in l
Speaker 1: A mm hmm. And just thinking about it, he looked back, obviously,
Speaker 1: Tupac um ice Cube, Dr Dre, Like just you know,
Speaker 1: I think growing up, you know, growing up around that time,
Speaker 1: you you're always looking for something or grasping for something. Um,
Speaker 1: I think you know, sports, celebrities entertainers. Music. I think music,
Speaker 1: especially for young men. Um, I think it's easier to
Speaker 1: relate to, especially back in the day because of the
Speaker 1: music videos, the the glitz and the glamour. Um. But um,
Speaker 1: I think music music hash change, so I don't really
Speaker 1: see music the same way today that I used to
Speaker 1: see it. So, um, I think music back when I
Speaker 1: was a kid, back in the eighties and nineties impacted
Speaker 1: you so differently. It made for me, I agree with
Speaker 1: everything you said. For me, I love music, specifically hip hop.
Speaker 1: Of it always made a very big world seems smaller.
Speaker 1: It allowed me, living in North Carolina to to hear
Speaker 1: West Coast stuff like the chronic to hear uh n
Speaker 1: w a T to hear even bumping up a little
Speaker 1: bit more the game, like all these different artists. It
Speaker 1: gave you an experience outside of what you know, outside
Speaker 1: of your your your own habitat. So for me, uh,
Speaker 1: it's big because it always gave kind of that that
Speaker 1: market time. Like you remember, I remember when Lights Camera
Speaker 1: Action by Mr Chiefs came out. That was two thousand
Speaker 1: and one, Like I remember that stuff. It's it very
Speaker 1: much points to a moment in time. But just having
Speaker 1: an artist like him. It was. It was so amazing,
Speaker 1: and we're planning to have a lot more artists on
Speaker 1: the show. What role did music play in your wrote
Speaker 1: music is. Music has played a huge role, especially as
Speaker 1: an athlete, because it gives you an opportunity to kind
Speaker 1: of zone out, zone in check in music. There's old
Speaker 1: school music. Man, when I when I play it in
Speaker 1: the car, I could just remember. I can, but I
Speaker 1: can remember, like like Lauren Hill, the fujis listening to them,
Speaker 1: like as you say that, I remember when I was
Speaker 1: listening to that when it first came bro. I can
Speaker 1: remember in fourth grade when the score came out. How
Speaker 1: about this stuff. I can remember sitting at home when
Speaker 1: with the NFL football somebody gave me and having my
Speaker 1: radio listening to the THEO right with that dark that
Speaker 1: that deep voice who was an Asian guy, right that
Speaker 1: nobody knew that was a big thing back then, back home,
Speaker 1: Um big boy, power one, power one oh six or
Speaker 1: you know power um and just remember and I could
Speaker 1: sit back and remember I was we were at one
Speaker 1: nine and a half Cambridge Way, and I can remember
Speaker 1: sitting there in the living room and some of my
Speaker 1: playing in the playoffs and losing, and I had some
Speaker 1: of my articles, and I remember tattooing the Superman, drawing
Speaker 1: the Superman s on the on my picture. And we
Speaker 1: had wood paneling, and we have bunk beds, and I
Speaker 1: can remember sitting in the house in my room day
Speaker 1: dreaming about catching the football they dreaming about playing in
Speaker 1: the nfl um also practicing uh nutcrackers, trying to get
Speaker 1: faster on my feet, and I just remember trying to
Speaker 1: be here, trying to be w I am today. But
Speaker 1: that music was the soundtrack behind Oh. That music allowed
Speaker 1: me to daydream. And when I hear that music, it
Speaker 1: reminds me and then it makes me kind of fast
Speaker 1: forward to where sometimes and I and I read this
Speaker 1: and it and it really puts it in perspective for me,
Speaker 1: is there is a basket of fresh bread on your head,
Speaker 1: and yet we go door to door asking for crust.
Speaker 1: I remember when I had crossed and I was asking
Speaker 1: for bread, And yet now and forty be forty two
Speaker 1: this year, and how I have bread, And sometimes I
Speaker 1: forgot I used to beg for crust. That music is
Speaker 1: a great reminder. Mr Cheeks was a great reminder. Man,
Speaker 1: I just gotta be grateful for today. You are a
Speaker 1: unique person, you are well worth it, you are competent,
Speaker 1: and most of all, your lovable. I'm Steve Smith singor
Speaker 1: I'm Gerald Little John and this has cut to It.
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