WEBVTT - 208: Happy Birthday Mr. President

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<v Speaker 1>Unpacking the Toolbox is a production of Shondaland Audio in

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<v Speaker 1>partnership with Iheartradiotshas Katie.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you ever smoke cigarettes?

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<v Speaker 1>No, only in like movies. I would sort of a

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<v Speaker 1>few days before a week before I because I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>it to look real, and I did it, But I

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<v Speaker 1>never got hooked. I never smoked them in real life.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, oh yeah you did. Oh yeah. My early twenties

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<v Speaker 2>was just like me thinking I was cool and like

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<v Speaker 2>doing theater and being in like theater, majoring in theater.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was like at experimental theater wing where we

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<v Speaker 2>would just roll around the floor naked and keep taking

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<v Speaker 2>cigarette breaks.

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<v Speaker 1>Make noises, like become like different animals and trees.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and like making out and everybody was like had

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<v Speaker 2>very fluid sexuality. I love your shirt. I'd like to

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<v Speaker 2>also note at the airing of this podcast that Gambo's

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<v Speaker 2>wearing the most wonderful shirt that says homosexual tendencies with

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<v Speaker 2>a like a skeleton.

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<v Speaker 1>Explain this the skeleton with a leather jacket and a

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<v Speaker 1>leather hat. Smoking a joint. I say it's a joint.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be a cigarette or a cigar. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a joint.

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<v Speaker 2>Who is the brand.

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<v Speaker 1>It's from a Lockwood fifty one. It's a queer brand

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<v Speaker 1>that does a lot of really cool, sort of edgy provocative,

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<v Speaker 1>like real sort of skateboarding. You know, Cake, gay Quel,

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<v Speaker 1>all that skateboarding you do, Yeah, for all that skateboarding

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<v Speaker 1>at but they have really really cool cool stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, but you know what we do do? That's a

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<v Speaker 2>nice scandal. Do you do what we do?

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<v Speaker 1>Do?

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<v Speaker 2>Dooty, what do we do? We are fucking good scooters

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<v Speaker 2>scooting people.

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<v Speaker 1>We do give a good scoot we do.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is a nice scandal. Fun fact. Scott Foley

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<v Speaker 2>is a rap gift or a season premiere gift, I

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<v Speaker 2>can't remember. One of the fucking greatest, smartest, most amazing

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<v Speaker 2>gifts ever. He gave everybody a razor I think, yes, yep,

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<v Speaker 2>which is like adult scooter. And our base camp was

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<v Speaker 2>like a little bit further from our stages, and so

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<v Speaker 2>we scooted from stage to base camp where are where

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<v Speaker 2>our trailers are. And it's the greatest, it's one of

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<v Speaker 2>the best. See you live in the hills, g you

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<v Speaker 2>don't get to do this. But I use that scooter

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<v Speaker 2>a couple times a week because I scooted with Ali.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, you have to come scoot with me.

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<v Speaker 1>My scooter's been in the garage for years because you're right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fine because it was on a shelf that was

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<v Speaker 1>so good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, thank you Scott Foley for this gift. But

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<v Speaker 2>my son is a huge scooter person. He scoots with

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<v Speaker 2>his little fucking helmet. He's fast, ast shit. He does tricks,

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<v Speaker 2>he does circles, he does squatting one leg, I believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I scooted with him everywhere on that Scott fully scooter. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you guys wear helmets? Oh? Yeah, fuck that shit.

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<v Speaker 1>I would wear a helmet too. I'm just thinking back

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<v Speaker 1>in like Washington Heights, like on a skateboarder, So we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even have scooters back then or skates, like no

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<v Speaker 1>elbow pads, no helmets, nothing. People were scraped up and

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<v Speaker 1>falling on their heads.

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<v Speaker 2>And I like to scoot without a helmet. I like

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<v Speaker 2>to run on the danger sign. But to be honest,

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<v Speaker 2>then Albi goes, how come you're wearing I have that helmet?

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<v Speaker 1>And you do? I think I think it's it's necessary.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's actually taken some fucking spills, so I'm like, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>which is fine. I don't mind scraped ups. But like

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<v Speaker 2>he's wearing a helmet.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, hell yah. There's another gift from Scott Foley

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a framed photograph of my parking spot.

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<v Speaker 2>God damn it, Scot Foley. Those were two exceptional gifts.

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<v Speaker 1>They were like like unique and creative.

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<v Speaker 2>Did they super aarty, black and white big prince of

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<v Speaker 2>our parking spots with our name on it? Wait? Did

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<v Speaker 2>your say mindsets k dot load?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you're saying just yeah, that's it? Yeah, But it's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>It's simple, it's like you know, it's it's clean, it's crisp,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's such a cool, very arty, it's such a

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<v Speaker 1>cool piece.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's such a statement, like you know, when you're

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<v Speaker 2>an actor coming up and it's a real shit show.

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<v Speaker 2>It's such a status symbol of making it that you

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<v Speaker 2>don't even realize how huge it is until you get

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<v Speaker 2>a parking spot on a Hollywood studio a lot that

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<v Speaker 2>has your name like spray painted onto it. That's your

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<v Speaker 2>parking spot. No one else is allowed to park in it,

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<v Speaker 2>and it is such a god it's such a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you think, all right, this is this is permanent.

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<v Speaker 1>That this is pretty permanent. I mean, of course they

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<v Speaker 1>got paint over that shit in two seconds. But in

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<v Speaker 1>our heads we think, all right, they like us, they

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<v Speaker 1>really like us, they want us to stay.

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<v Speaker 2>They like me, you really like me. It's the same

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<v Speaker 2>as the status of getting a back of a chair. Also, Hollywood,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're on a show, you get your cast chair

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<v Speaker 2>that you sit in while you're waiting until your scene

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<v Speaker 2>is ready to shoot. And also along the back of

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<v Speaker 2>it is usually your name.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have mine right here? Did you keep your

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<v Speaker 1>you do? Yeah? I have a director in my room.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to reach back because I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>fall on my head. Yeah, I have it right, I

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<v Speaker 1>have it right here beyond you. And it says scandal

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<v Speaker 1>and like the you know, like when you yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the red shredded paper.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, gave them to us. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>After we wrapped, we also had scandal warming coats.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Oh I didn't keep that.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't either, and god damn it, I wish I had.

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<v Speaker 2>But look, we keep it real here on unpacking the

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<v Speaker 2>toolbox up. Now, tell the people, Tell the people, Tell

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<v Speaker 2>the gladiators what we're talking about today, which is episode

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<v Speaker 2>two eight entitled Happy Birthday, Mister President, which aired on

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<v Speaker 2>December sixth, twenty twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was written by the Shonda Rhymes.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Yeah, that's why this one's so fucking hot, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was directed by Oliver Bolckelberg, who was our cinematographer,

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<v Speaker 1>our DP for years and then he started directing a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of episodes. He's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, he's amazing. It was guest starring Kate Burton

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<v Speaker 2>as Vice President Sally Langston, Norm Lewis as Senator Edited

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<v Speaker 2>Edison Davis, Bryan Lesher Is Tom Samantha Sloyan as Janine,

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<v Speaker 2>Stony Westmoreland as Hal Virginia, Louise Smith as Secretary of State.

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<v Speaker 1>Kavita Pattil as Doctor Number four, Kiko a Jenna as

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<v Speaker 1>Press Secretary Britta Kagan, Troy Winbush as Mars Lcott, Stephen

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<v Speaker 1>Collins as Reed Wallace, and Tyreese Allen as Doctor Carroll.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. I'm very excited to talk to me about this

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<v Speaker 2>episode because Shonda, she wrote the shit out of this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an oldie, but a goodie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a banger. It's really fucking chock full, as

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<v Speaker 2>they all are but this one really okay, let's remind you,

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<v Speaker 2>let's jog you gladiators and your memory banks about what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on. So this is what's happening. In two o eight,

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<v Speaker 2>Happy Birthday, Misster President, the hospital is a buzz. In

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<v Speaker 2>the aftermath of Fits being shot, Olivia remembers the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the campaign trail and a significant pin she gifted

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<v Speaker 2>to Fits during his inauguration. In the present, Sally Langston

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<v Speaker 2>makes a play for a position as acting president, which

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<v Speaker 2>Cyrus and Olivia must shut down.

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<v Speaker 1>In the past, we follow Fitz and Olivia's escalating affair

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<v Speaker 1>during the days following Fitz's election, with some frightening results

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<v Speaker 1>as Hollis takes care of a reporter looking into defiance.

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<v Speaker 1>The tension the affair and the lengths that Hollis and

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<v Speaker 1>Cyrus will go to scares Olivia into resigning.

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<v Speaker 2>And finally, as Sally has sworn in his acting president,

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<v Speaker 2>we see who the suspected shooter is. Well. The episode

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<v Speaker 2>starts we're right where President Grant was shot, and we

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<v Speaker 2>are in the hospital, and we're seeing the whole gore,

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<v Speaker 2>and the whole perspective is from Olivia's and Bogelberg does

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<v Speaker 2>the best fucking cinematography DP work where he just slow

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<v Speaker 2>mows the entire hospital scene, so that Live is seeing

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<v Speaker 2>blood dripping on the floor, she's seeing Melly fucking screaming

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<v Speaker 2>at people, she's seeing Cyrus, she's seeing like everything is

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<v Speaker 2>slow mo. And you and I was brought to like

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<v Speaker 2>an emotional place.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh hell yeah, he does. And he does that, like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, with the camera work. Even the shooting of

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<v Speaker 1>the president is done in such an amazing, like innovative way.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost sped up, right, Yeah, like he speeds up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the film shooting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it looks like really weird. It's so powerful though.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you see it's like the blood spray too,

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<v Speaker 1>when you see them sort of get hit by the bullets.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh god. And we see Edison calls Olivia and

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<v Speaker 2>he's they're throwing him in the bunker and he's calling it.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, what's going on? Live, Like they're putting me

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<v Speaker 2>in the bunker. And then I just wrote the line

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<v Speaker 2>Carrie's dress is amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, I didn't look up who made that dress,

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<v Speaker 1>but the dress is amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, it's so ridiculous, Lin Paolo, It's like

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<v Speaker 2>it's insane, and she's got her hair all pressed out,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's got this like ridiculously beautiful, flowy white of

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<v Speaker 2>course dress that has like sparkly.

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<v Speaker 1>In the front right on her booby. It's so fucking

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<v Speaker 1>fucking Edison. I was like, Oh, here's Edison again. I

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<v Speaker 1>had a question, had not Edison again? Jeez? How long

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<v Speaker 1>do they have to stay in that bunker? Those people

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<v Speaker 1>like they're like, let's go, We're gonna hide you guys away,

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<v Speaker 1>which happens in real life? Like this is crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, like if this were to well, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>if this were actually happened, this has actually happened. I

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<v Speaker 2>have no idea what protocol looks like in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>like I think they probably have to that's probably be

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna trust the scandal writers and say that this

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<v Speaker 2>shit is based in truth. They probably have to take

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<v Speaker 2>the Speaker of the House and they have to take

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<v Speaker 2>Congress or I don't know, and throw them in a

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<v Speaker 2>fucking bunker to make sure democracy like isn't right and

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<v Speaker 2>like the whole place isn't under attack.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Well, also, because the shooter is still

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<v Speaker 1>at large, right, they didn't catch the shooter so in

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<v Speaker 1>that case, I could see how they have to hide

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<v Speaker 1>these people away because if they're all killed, then we're

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, thrown into chaos.

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<v Speaker 2>Chaos.

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<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, sometimes nobody shot and we're still in chaos.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. So then we see what causes the whole backstory

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<v Speaker 2>to unlock, is that we see the pin, this beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>American flag pin that fell off, you know, during the shooting.

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<v Speaker 2>We see what the origin of this pin story is,

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<v Speaker 2>which is Olivia gave Fits this pin on his inauguration day,

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<v Speaker 2>and we learned that the pin was actually an Eisenhower pin,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's so fucking smart, Shonda rhymes, of course she

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<v Speaker 2>wrote this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so beautiful, it's so beautiful. But of course, the

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<v Speaker 1>minute that Mellie walks in and sees the pin in

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<v Speaker 1>the flashback, you know scene on fits his lapel and

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<v Speaker 1>she's like, oh, where'd you get that? And he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh was Eisenhower's motherfucker's lying to her already, Ja.

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<v Speaker 2>Is lying to Melly. She's just like, where's this pin from?

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<v Speaker 2>And they don't even say like, oh, Olivia got it

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<v Speaker 2>for me, or.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he just said, oh, it belonged to Eisenhower and

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<v Speaker 1>that was it.

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<v Speaker 2>She but that pin she learns in this episode having

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<v Speaker 2>an affair.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, she learns.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the episode where Melly figures it out because

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<v Speaker 2>of that fucking pin, so he's sworn in. We see

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<v Speaker 2>a fight between James and Jeff James and Jeff James

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<v Speaker 2>and Cyrus because James can't go to the inaugural balls

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<v Speaker 2>because Cyrus isn't out yet that he's in a committed relation,

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<v Speaker 2>committed homosexual relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>And Olivia is sort of lurking in the hallway like

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<v Speaker 1>hearing this argument right.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And then Fitz goes to the inaugural balls and

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<v Speaker 2>all that, but guess what he leaves early and he

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<v Speaker 2>meets Olivia Pope in the oval Oof office and she says,

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<v Speaker 2>mister President, I could never shoot a scene like this

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<v Speaker 2>with a straight face.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't he say say it again or something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>mister President?

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<v Speaker 2>She say it again and she says, mister President.

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<v Speaker 1>Trying to get those inaugural balls worked up?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah's right? Then the ass inaugural old balls. All the

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<v Speaker 2>crazy thing is like I the whole time, this scene

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<v Speaker 2>is so hot because and we know because we had

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<v Speaker 2>Shonda Rhimes as guest on this first and the first

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<v Speaker 2>episode of this podcast we ever did, and she said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna have Olivia and Fitz have sex on the

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<v Speaker 2>desk in the Oval office. Well, here you have it, folks,

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<v Speaker 2>because Fitz gets down on his knees and he goes

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<v Speaker 2>to sloppy third yo.

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<v Speaker 1>But if first, Olivia is a resisting, resisting, resisting, and

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<v Speaker 1>she's like, we cannot do this anymore. She even says,

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<v Speaker 1>look at where we are. We can't do this anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to stop. And I love when Fitz is like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't stop. I'm not gonna stop. Can you stop?

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<v Speaker 1>And she's like m mmm. And that's when she saddles

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<v Speaker 1>on the desk and he just that skirt up real cute,

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<v Speaker 1>real slow. She's like, oh so hot.

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<v Speaker 2>Could they have shot this scene? I would have broken

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<v Speaker 2>one thousand, wouldn't have made it past calling him mister

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<v Speaker 2>President with a straight face like there's no fucking way

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<v Speaker 2>in hell. So kudos to carry Washington.

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<v Speaker 1>Kudos, yes, But it's it's a steamy, steamy, fucking scene.

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<v Speaker 1>It goes there like she's unbuckling his belt, he has

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<v Speaker 1>her hand up her skirt like you could see it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's super like it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was for like network television. I mean the ones are

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<v Speaker 2>where a ten PM show?

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<v Speaker 1>No wonder we were, I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>It was it was really really hot, and I was uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>I like look away a couple times because I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, I know these people, you know what Katie I

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<v Speaker 1>did the how stupid? I was like, how stupid are you? Girmo,

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<v Speaker 1>why are you like looking down? Like I literally caught

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<v Speaker 1>myself looking.

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<v Speaker 2>Down at it too. It was like too much to ta, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it's too much to take. I think I wonder if

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<v Speaker 2>our gladiators listening felt that way. They probably were right

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<v Speaker 2>there with them. But I think it's probably because we

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<v Speaker 2>personally know the two of them and it's fucking weird,

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<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, I mean, it's just bizarre. And then we

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<v Speaker 2>backflashed to the present day. Sally's acting president and it's

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<v Speaker 2>all on news channels and she fucking lands on the

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<v Speaker 2>front lawn of the White House, which is such a

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<v Speaker 2>power play move. She lands on the front steps and

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<v Speaker 2>Olivia steps up and she starts fixing. She basically leaves

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<v Speaker 2>Opa and all the White House staff comes in and

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, are you back, And she's like, go to

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<v Speaker 2>my house, get my suits, get my outfits. Get my

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<v Speaker 2>toothbrush on back.

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<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, Yo, I wrote in my notes Homegirl listed off

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<v Speaker 1>like eight things. I was like, wait, what bring my suits,

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<v Speaker 1>my stockis, my socks, my toothbrush, my my my onesie, like.

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<v Speaker 2>What my songs, my underwear, my toothbrush, my flat iron,

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<v Speaker 2>my Cricks concealer, my moistrising. And that's funny because I

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<v Speaker 2>heard it and I was like, oh wow, that's really not.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot like conservative. You were like yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I just was like, oh wow, that's like exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>someone would need to be at work for four or

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<v Speaker 2>five days and nothing more. And also they listed no makeup,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, well, yeah, Kerry Washington doesn't need any makeup.

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<v Speaker 2>She's fucking perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>There's tons of going back to after he's been elected president,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's preparing for his inauguration day and he's preparing

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<v Speaker 2>for his inauguration speech. They go and move to Camp

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<v Speaker 2>David to prep his inauguration speech. And the reason they

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<v Speaker 2>do this is because that night on the Oval office

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<v Speaker 2>in the desk was caught on the camera and Fitz

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<v Speaker 2>is running with his navy shirt and Hal is like,

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<v Speaker 2>there are cameras, sir, and he's like what He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>there's cameras, and Fits is like, where am I going

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<v Speaker 2>to go to? Like, yeah, fuck my woman as much

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<v Speaker 2>as I.

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<v Speaker 1>Want, yes, but I love that Fits has sort of

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<v Speaker 1>his first reaction is like, oh shit, there's cameras. They

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<v Speaker 1>saw everything. But then he's like, Okay, where are there

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<v Speaker 1>not cameras? Like he's like, I want to know where

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<v Speaker 1>I can screw in the White House. I was like, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, they move Cyrus, Olivia and Fits but not Melly

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<v Speaker 2>to Camp David so that they could just like write

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<v Speaker 2>and work on his speech and his plan of his

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<v Speaker 2>first hundred days and do it.

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<v Speaker 1>This is all in the flashback, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Flashwake, But like there's gotta be cameras in Camp David.

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<v Speaker 2>This is total bullshit. I call bullshit on this, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, I don't fucking know. But also, is that like

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<v Speaker 1>a you know what I mean? Is that like fucking

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<v Speaker 1>with someone's privacy if the cameras are like inside like

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<v Speaker 1>in the bedroom, and like you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe there aren't. Maybe there are cameras.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah in the bedroom, in the bathrooms they can

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<v Speaker 2>now right there's there, yeah, right, so that they could

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<v Speaker 2>they couldn't screw in the bedrooms in the White House

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<v Speaker 2>because Melly's in there. Right, that's right, I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>I get it. Okay, okay. So they're having so much

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<v Speaker 2>sex and it's so cute. They're laughing, they're coming up

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<v Speaker 2>with his plans for the first hundred days. They're arguing, but.

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<v Speaker 1>It likes up against the wall.

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<v Speaker 2>She's pushing against no you, no you, no you gives

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<v Speaker 2>me a gag.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's hot. It's hot. They're naked, like, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's so steamy, it's so it's a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really cute. And then that all comes to a big,

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<v Speaker 2>fat end because Nelly shows up at Can't David with

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<v Speaker 2>a nice cooked lasagna.

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<v Speaker 1>This motherfucker said, h I live.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, how the dinner? The kids went to school,

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<v Speaker 2>and I figured I would just like check up on

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<v Speaker 2>how it's going.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's that look on his face like, oh God,

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<v Speaker 1>I did this is not my doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Live and Live is like feels like the other woman.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, really is the other woman.

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<v Speaker 2>She feels really bad, and so he's pissed. She's pissed.

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<v Speaker 2>She's pissed. She's pissed, and they haven't really spoken in

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<v Speaker 2>a few days. They returned back to the White House.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not talking, and this is actually a huge moment

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<v Speaker 2>for Scandal, I feel like, because fits is like, what's wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on? And She's like, you know what I'm feeling,

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<v Speaker 2>just really Sally Hemmings Thomas Jefferson about this?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what was? Tell me what that? Tell me?

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<v Speaker 1>What that is?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Sally Hemmings was the black slave that Thomas Jefferson

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<v Speaker 2>was in love with. Oh sh and I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say she had some babies, but she

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<v Speaker 2>is the black slave that Thomas Jefferson was sleeping with

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<v Speaker 2>for I think a really long time. I think he

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<v Speaker 2>was like in love with her.

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<v Speaker 1>And they loved each other, like they truly loved each other.

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<v Speaker 2>So Sally Hemmings had five babies with's Thomas Jefferson. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And so what I think is so amazing about Scandal

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<v Speaker 2>is like, this is episode two oh eight, and so

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<v Speaker 2>we've been watching an affair between a white president and

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<v Speaker 2>a black woman for fifteen episodes, and this is the

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<v Speaker 2>first time that Shonda is bringing up this very very

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<v Speaker 2>very famous relationship that in some ways like really mirrors

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on here. I remember being on the show

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<v Speaker 2>at the beginning and being like, I wonder if it's

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<v Speaker 2>ever going to be addressed, Like I wonder if race

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<v Speaker 2>is ever going to be addressed in dialogue, Like is

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<v Speaker 2>Carrie ever going to say or Olivia ever going to

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<v Speaker 2>say something like, oh, my god, not only you are

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<v Speaker 2>a president and I'm a civilian, but like I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>black woman and you're a white guy. And it was

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<v Speaker 2>not mentioned until this line, And my god, Shonda nails

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<v Speaker 2>it so hard. They're in this horrible fight and she's like,

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<v Speaker 2>for the first time, I'm feeling like a fucking piece

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<v Speaker 2>of shit, Like I'm feeling like like a slave to you.

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<v Speaker 1>But also, if I'm not mistaken, Katie, it was. Race

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<v Speaker 1>was never brought up again. I mean, it might have been.

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<v Speaker 1>I could be wrong, but I don't think it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was really they made it a thing which I really.

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<v Speaker 2>Loved, not in their relationship. We did it for the

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<v Speaker 2>lawn Chair episode with forty b bands. We talked about

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<v Speaker 2>police brutality, We talked about that there.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's in.

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<v Speaker 2>Olivia, no, this is I want to say. I mean again,

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<v Speaker 2>guys listening, we've only watched the first two seasons of Scandal,

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<v Speaker 2>so we'll correct ourselves if when we're wrong, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>really my only memory of it too. We will be

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<v Speaker 2>back with more after the break.

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<v Speaker 1>Katie tell me, is this the scene where she says,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't do this? Like and fit has this ridiculously

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<v Speaker 1>fucking the best acting I've seen, so fucking that's coming.

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<v Speaker 2>The best acting on the show is coming right now.

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<v Speaker 2>So she gets in his face in the hallway and

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<v Speaker 2>she says, like really quietly, like in his face, like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I'm feeling really sallly hmming is Thomas

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<v Speaker 2>Jefferson about this whole thing right now? And he is

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<v Speaker 2>taken aback, like you see him like this, And then

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<v Speaker 2>again we don't see them together until like the fucking

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<v Speaker 2>winning scene of this episode, in one of the greatest scenes.

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<v Speaker 2>It is the garden scene Gladiators, that's what we're talking about,

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<v Speaker 2>and he to Tony Goldwin's acting in this is.

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<v Speaker 1>You can see his like lip quivering and his eyes

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<v Speaker 1>are watery. It's like beyond like fucking kiss.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't write some of the writing in this, that

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<v Speaker 2>Shonda rope, but it's like she Olivia is saying to

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<v Speaker 2>him and the Rose Garden like I can't do this anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't live like this. All I live, breathe and

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<v Speaker 2>thinking is your thoughts. You own me, and it's all

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<v Speaker 2>about this slavery thing. It's like bringing about this slavery situation,

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<v Speaker 2>like you own me. She says, like I can't do

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<v Speaker 2>anything you want me. I'm there. You want me to

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<v Speaker 2>next to you, I'm there. You tell me to meet you,

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<v Speaker 2>I meet you like I've lost myself.

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<v Speaker 1>You owe me sooga. But then Fitz says, and I

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<v Speaker 1>did write down some of these lines.

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<v Speaker 2>He tell me, maybe tell me, tell me belongs.

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<v Speaker 1>You own me. You're the love of my life. I

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<v Speaker 1>belong to you. And he oh, looks so fucking good.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's like, what the fuck? But you know, at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, it's making her fall in love with

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<v Speaker 1>him even more. Oh my, because she's like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy really really loves me. He fucking he nails

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<v Speaker 1>this scene. I mean they both do, him and Olivia,

0:22:39.040 --> 0:22:42.560
<v Speaker 1>but it's this. This was my favorite scene in this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Me too. This is the winning scene. This is krem

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<v Speaker 2>dela Creme and honestly one of the best, most passionate.

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<v Speaker 2>You know why this scene is so amazing and why

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<v Speaker 2>it's because we believe and know that they love each

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<v Speaker 2>other so much despite race, fite president not president, despite

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<v Speaker 2>despite it all, it's like they are sick in love

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<v Speaker 2>with each other, and like they're acting and her writing

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<v Speaker 2>and the commo of it all and being a prose

0:23:11.920 --> 0:23:15.440
<v Speaker 2>garden is like till the end of time people were

0:23:15.480 --> 0:23:17.040
<v Speaker 2>olits through and.

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<v Speaker 1>Through and again we've we've mentioned there's a million times,

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<v Speaker 1>but the chemistry between Tony Goldwin and Kerry Washington is

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<v Speaker 1>just it's you know, it's spectacular, like if that wasn't there,

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<v Speaker 1>And of course including Seanna's writing and the act all

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<v Speaker 1>of it, but their chemistry is just so present. It's

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<v Speaker 1>so real that you can't you can't look away. You

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<v Speaker 1>believe it, You believe it one hundred percent, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god, Tony's acting, it's so good. You own me,

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<v Speaker 2>you own me, I belong to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'm sick too.

0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:50.880
<v Speaker 2>I can't eat, I can't think, I can't like all

0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:51.320
<v Speaker 2>this shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Is made me cry. Oh my, oh man, it's so good.

0:23:55.600 --> 0:23:57.760
<v Speaker 1>But again, and Olivia has that look on her face

0:23:57.800 --> 0:24:01.960
<v Speaker 1>like like she cannot believe the words that are coming

0:24:01.960 --> 0:24:03.640
<v Speaker 1>out of his mouth, but she's loving.

0:24:03.760 --> 0:24:06.600
<v Speaker 2>We should start. I just had a real brain inspiration.

0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:11.320
<v Speaker 2>I think we should start re enacting other characters scenes

0:24:11.359 --> 0:24:15.240
<v Speaker 2>from this, says Quinn and Hauck, or is just Katie

0:24:15.280 --> 0:24:16.880
<v Speaker 2>and Geirmo because I love.

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<v Speaker 1>That so much and I think our listeners will love it.

0:24:22.840 --> 0:24:23.359
<v Speaker 1>Just think.

0:24:25.000 --> 0:24:27.600
<v Speaker 2>Joe Morton, some of those monologues.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be Sally Langston, like sh talk about

0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:36.240
<v Speaker 1>great acting. You hate her more than ever in this episode,

0:24:36.359 --> 0:24:38.840
<v Speaker 1>like she is a hateful, hateful double woman.

0:24:39.560 --> 0:24:42.240
<v Speaker 2>That's horrible to tell you, guys, what Sally Langston is

0:24:42.240 --> 0:24:45.000
<v Speaker 2>doing in this fucking episode. So she was promised on

0:24:45.040 --> 0:24:47.359
<v Speaker 2>the campaign trail that she was going to nominate the

0:24:47.400 --> 0:24:49.720
<v Speaker 2>next Supreme Court justice. But ha HAA a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a conflict here is that Verna Thornton was promised

0:24:53.880 --> 0:24:57.600
<v Speaker 2>for being part of the goons who rigged the election,

0:24:57.760 --> 0:25:00.560
<v Speaker 2>that she would be the next Supreme Court nominee. So

0:25:00.600 --> 0:25:03.040
<v Speaker 2>they've got a lead little bit of an issue, and

0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:06.120
<v Speaker 2>fucking Cap Burton has a monologue where she comes into

0:25:06.160 --> 0:25:09.960
<v Speaker 2>Cyrus and Olivia where they have killed her Supreme Court nominee.

0:25:10.320 --> 0:25:13.080
<v Speaker 2>They've put in some like they let it be known

0:25:13.080 --> 0:25:14.960
<v Speaker 2>that he was arrested when he was fifteen, So there's

0:25:15.080 --> 0:25:18.600
<v Speaker 2>no way that her nominee would be elected. And she

0:25:18.760 --> 0:25:21.480
<v Speaker 2>comes in and she's so pissed. She was like, they

0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:23.960
<v Speaker 2>found this on campounds that's supposed to be locked, and

0:25:24.000 --> 0:25:26.320
<v Speaker 2>I know who did it. It was you. It was

0:25:26.480 --> 0:25:27.560
<v Speaker 2>you, you did it.

0:25:27.960 --> 0:25:31.119
<v Speaker 1>And her voice Katie reaches a pitch that I have

0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:32.119
<v Speaker 1>never heard before.

0:25:34.200 --> 0:25:38.399
<v Speaker 2>It was yes, it's like very animalistic rage.

0:25:38.600 --> 0:25:40.320
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, wait he got very.

0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:44.720
<v Speaker 2>What you said animalistic like an animals like it was crazy.

0:25:45.160 --> 0:25:46.600
<v Speaker 2>It was so crazy.

0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:49.640
<v Speaker 1>And it was It also made me think, okay, homegirl

0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:53.320
<v Speaker 1>says a Supreme Court justice nominie cannot come back from

0:25:53.359 --> 0:25:56.680
<v Speaker 1>that I'm air quoting scandal, which was like he committed

0:25:56.680 --> 0:25:59.680
<v Speaker 1>a little crime when he was fifteen. Meanwhile, now thinking

0:25:59.760 --> 0:26:04.520
<v Speaker 1>too thousand fucking you know twenty twenty, twenty two, twenty three,

0:26:04.680 --> 0:26:07.160
<v Speaker 1>like the shit, that's the scandals that are happening within

0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:09.840
<v Speaker 1>the Supreme Court justices and they're already on the bench

0:26:09.960 --> 0:26:12.520
<v Speaker 1>and nothing. Nobody's bat in an eye, you know what

0:26:12.520 --> 0:26:15.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean. Shit is still moving along like always. Nobody's

0:26:15.040 --> 0:26:17.800
<v Speaker 1>getting kicked off. So it's just funny to see these

0:26:17.840 --> 0:26:19.600
<v Speaker 1>scenes in this you know, here and nowhere.

0:26:19.640 --> 0:26:21.879
<v Speaker 2>It was like people are they they were writing the

0:26:21.920 --> 0:26:25.640
<v Speaker 2>show to have some moral compass. Of course, we even

0:26:25.640 --> 0:26:27.879
<v Speaker 2>though Olivia Pope kills someone with a chair, but like whatever.

0:26:28.280 --> 0:26:31.200
<v Speaker 1>But also Katie, like, during this time, it still wasn't

0:26:31.240 --> 0:26:33.679
<v Speaker 1>crazy in our world. So it was it was real,

0:26:33.840 --> 0:26:35.920
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? This shit was it was real.

0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:40.040
<v Speaker 2>Yes, And then Sally's all pissed. They go to Melly

0:26:40.359 --> 0:26:43.320
<v Speaker 2>and they say, Sally Langston is making a play for

0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:45.880
<v Speaker 2>the White House. She just landed on the lawn. Go

0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:49.720
<v Speaker 2>leave this hospital, find something to wear, get on the

0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:52.320
<v Speaker 2>podium and tell the American people that we don't need

0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:56.040
<v Speaker 2>Sally Langston. Our president is still alive in kicking. Don't

0:26:56.080 --> 0:27:00.159
<v Speaker 2>pretend like he's not. And my god, does Melli it

0:27:00.240 --> 0:27:02.119
<v Speaker 2>up her pull on her bootstraps.

0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:06.439
<v Speaker 1>Yo, tell Mellie that she can maybe not be in

0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:09.520
<v Speaker 1>the White House anymore, and that bitch will be like,

0:27:09.640 --> 0:27:12.720
<v Speaker 1>what do I have to do? She like she like

0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:17.760
<v Speaker 1>she conjured up some inn and was like, yeah, I'm

0:27:17.760 --> 0:27:18.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna shut this down.

0:27:19.320 --> 0:27:23.240
<v Speaker 2>Animal, she's a political animal. But getting ready for that,

0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:25.600
<v Speaker 2>Olivia has to go and get her clothes of what

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:27.879
<v Speaker 2>she's gonna wear, and so she walks past all of

0:27:27.960 --> 0:27:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Fit's clothes and he's like in the midst of possibly dying,

0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:34.640
<v Speaker 2>and she sees that navy sweatshirt, you know, the one

0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:36.639
<v Speaker 2>that says Navy on it, and she just gives it

0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:38.040
<v Speaker 2>a whiff and cries.

0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:40.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh, she said she gave it, gives it a whiff

0:27:40.960 --> 0:27:43.040
<v Speaker 1>and cries, she sure does.

0:27:43.200 --> 0:27:43.440
<v Speaker 2>Man.

0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:47.040
<v Speaker 1>That's another there's a lot of powerful scenes in this episode.

0:27:47.440 --> 0:27:52.280
<v Speaker 1>When she takes that whiff from that that sweatshirt. Yo, Katie,

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:54.199
<v Speaker 1>did you notice? And that see she breaks down, but

0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:57.240
<v Speaker 1>then she has this moment where she's like, she stiffens

0:27:57.320 --> 0:27:59.280
<v Speaker 1>up and she's like, I cannot do this shit. Pull

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:02.680
<v Speaker 1>it together, Olivia, And she pulls herself together, and she

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:06.320
<v Speaker 1>shakes the sweatshirt and folds it really sort of sternly

0:28:06.359 --> 0:28:10.000
<v Speaker 1>and puts it. Oh it was so good.

0:28:10.400 --> 0:28:13.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's she's so amazing, bringing it back to the

0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:18.520
<v Speaker 2>Sally Hemmings Thomas Jefferson line of it all when she

0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:21.560
<v Speaker 2>is smelling the navy sweatshirt. After that, we flashed back

0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:28.040
<v Speaker 2>to inauguration time and Fitz has invited Olivia to look

0:28:28.040 --> 0:28:33.000
<v Speaker 2>at the Constitution and they touch it and it says

0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:36.240
<v Speaker 2>we the People. And at the time of the Constitution,

0:28:36.400 --> 0:28:39.600
<v Speaker 2>black people weren't included in We the people, and I

0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 2>can't help but think, like that's what was so cool

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:46.960
<v Speaker 2>about this episode is like Fitz is like touch it

0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:48.680
<v Speaker 2>and she's like, no, I'm not going to touch it,

0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:50.560
<v Speaker 2>and he's like touch it, and it's like so cute,

0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:53.840
<v Speaker 2>how the whole dialogue is so durable, and she's like, no, you,

0:28:53.960 --> 0:28:55.880
<v Speaker 2>let's touch it together, and he's like, I already touched

0:28:55.920 --> 0:28:57.280
<v Speaker 2>I already was the person who touched it.

0:28:57.280 --> 0:28:58.600
<v Speaker 1>I already touched it, touching it.

0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:01.400
<v Speaker 2>I've been touching it. And then she touches it, and

0:29:01.440 --> 0:29:04.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, like I really had a moment like

0:29:04.680 --> 0:29:07.240
<v Speaker 2>to see a TV show where a black woman touches

0:29:07.320 --> 0:29:11.360
<v Speaker 2>the constitation you see her finger, like yes, yes, you

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:15.080
<v Speaker 2>see her finger touched the Constitution where it was like

0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:19.400
<v Speaker 2>all these white men who wrote it, and I don't know,

0:29:19.480 --> 0:29:22.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm so glad Shonda wrote this episode and wrote it

0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:25.800
<v Speaker 2>like this. And I mean I was moved like multiple

0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:29.680
<v Speaker 2>times over. I just was like super moved and really

0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:31.960
<v Speaker 2>felt and proud.

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:34.480
<v Speaker 1>I felt really proud, yeah to be on the show

0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:35.840
<v Speaker 1>because in moments like this.

0:29:36.280 --> 0:29:39.000
<v Speaker 2>Like I was such a small cog in the wheel

0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:43.600
<v Speaker 2>of this show that was yes, it was like you know,

0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:47.400
<v Speaker 2>water cooler and OMG moments and binge worthy and we

0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:49.880
<v Speaker 2>were tweeting and all the things. But what's so great

0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:52.760
<v Speaker 2>about Shonda Rhymes is that she was actually also like

0:29:53.600 --> 0:29:56.520
<v Speaker 2>moving the needle in the way that she knows how

0:29:56.840 --> 0:29:57.080
<v Speaker 2>you know.

0:29:57.840 --> 0:30:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there was some real stuff in these in these

0:30:01.240 --> 0:30:04.760
<v Speaker 1>episodes that were lessons too or or reminders that people

0:30:04.840 --> 0:30:07.880
<v Speaker 1>needed to be reminded of certain things, and she does

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 1>it in such a beautiful way. But I feel like

0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 1>there's a story behind when they shot that scene. Did

0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:16.440
<v Speaker 1>they shoot that? I feel like, did they shoot that

0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:20.520
<v Speaker 1>scene in They couldn't have shot that in DC? Right?

0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:20.840
<v Speaker 2>No?

0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:23.200
<v Speaker 1>That I don't think is that recreated that?

0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Totally, I think. I mean I could be wrong,

0:30:26.880 --> 0:30:29.160
<v Speaker 2>but I think I don't think we ever. I don't

0:30:29.160 --> 0:30:32.040
<v Speaker 2>think anyone ever went to d C until the final

0:30:32.280 --> 0:30:34.360
<v Speaker 2>the second to final episode of the whole series.

0:30:34.880 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:38.280
<v Speaker 2>But it was fucking real. Yeah, I mean did they

0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:42.040
<v Speaker 2>did a great job. And when they do touch the Constitution,

0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:44.040
<v Speaker 2>she cries and says, I'm in love with you too,

0:30:44.800 --> 0:30:47.160
<v Speaker 2>and it's over the Constitution and it's so lovely.

0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Constitution made her say it.

0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:55.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, she's like, my boyfriend took me on a

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:56.320
<v Speaker 2>date to touch the Constitution.

0:30:56.800 --> 0:31:01.600
<v Speaker 1>I love you, and that's where the pin goes miss right.

0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:07.120
<v Speaker 2>So the pin goes missing in that constitution scene, and

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:11.160
<v Speaker 2>then Melly comes to Olivia and says, oh, I wanted

0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:15.920
<v Speaker 2>to give this back to you, and how told me

0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:20.040
<v Speaker 2>that Fitz didn't bring his wife to see the Constitution.

0:31:20.240 --> 0:31:23.760
<v Speaker 2>He chose to bring you. And it's the first.

0:31:24.200 --> 0:31:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Which because I would have wanted to be there, been there.

0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:30.800
<v Speaker 2>And then she has the most amazing dialogue that's like

0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:34.360
<v Speaker 2>we all did This is all passive aggressive too. She's like,

0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:37.240
<v Speaker 2>we all did what we needed to do to get

0:31:37.240 --> 0:31:41.240
<v Speaker 2>fits in office, and now it is our job to

0:31:41.360 --> 0:31:44.400
<v Speaker 2>keep him there, meaning like I will keep playing wife,

0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:47.920
<v Speaker 2>you keep playing mistress, whatever we have to do to

0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:52.800
<v Speaker 2>keep the president president. And it's like this is all flashback,

0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:55.280
<v Speaker 2>but this is when the whole charade and all the

0:31:55.320 --> 0:31:58.160
<v Speaker 2>cards start to crumble. It's a combination of like Melly

0:31:58.320 --> 0:32:01.080
<v Speaker 2>knowing and Olivia of being like, this is the most

0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:04.080
<v Speaker 2>fucked up shit in the entire world. Hollis gives the

0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:07.160
<v Speaker 2>okay to blow up Cytron and kill seven people just

0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 2>so that the election rigging storyline doesn't get out, and Cyrus.

0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:14.280
<v Speaker 2>She goes to Cyrus says, Hollis is a fucking problem.

0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:16.840
<v Speaker 2>He killed seven people, that's on us. And Cyrus has

0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:20.080
<v Speaker 2>this huge monologue where he's like, those people died, they

0:32:20.080 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 2>are patriots.

0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:23.680
<v Speaker 1>They're patriots, they died for us, for fits to be

0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:25.360
<v Speaker 1>have been in office, die for.

0:32:25.360 --> 0:32:27.560
<v Speaker 2>A greater cause. And Olivia is just looking around like

0:32:27.600 --> 0:32:30.160
<v Speaker 2>all these people are fucking out of their minds.

0:32:30.440 --> 0:32:33.360
<v Speaker 1>And he also Cyrus mentions Lindsay Dwyer, which is Quinn

0:32:33.400 --> 0:32:36.360
<v Speaker 1>Perkins of course, and says she's gonna you know, she

0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:39.120
<v Speaker 1>she's doing her country a service.

0:32:39.320 --> 0:32:42.560
<v Speaker 2>Lindsay Dwyer is doing her country services, doing her patriotic duty,

0:32:42.680 --> 0:32:45.040
<v Speaker 2>all for the greater good of this country.

0:32:45.200 --> 0:32:48.160
<v Speaker 1>But also it all goes back to Olivia again because

0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:50.800
<v Speaker 1>Olivia is the one that gives the Jesse Tyler name

0:32:51.000 --> 0:32:55.800
<v Speaker 1>right to Hollis Doyle, which Huck gives to her because

0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:58.320
<v Speaker 1>she knows that somebody has been sort of meddling and

0:32:58.440 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 1>asking questions and sort of in there, so she wants

0:33:01.240 --> 0:33:02.960
<v Speaker 1>them out. So it all goes back to Olivia. So

0:33:03.000 --> 0:33:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Olivia is somewhat responsible for this explosion, for Jesse Tyler dying.

0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:14.080
<v Speaker 2>It's why she saves Lindsay Dwyner because she feels so sad. Yes,

0:33:14.560 --> 0:33:18.880
<v Speaker 2>she will not let another person die for this sin

0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:22.680
<v Speaker 2>that she did, this choice she made of bringing the election.

0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:26.120
<v Speaker 2>She will not let anyone else go and that's why

0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:28.000
<v Speaker 2>she sends Huck to get Lindsay.

0:33:28.280 --> 0:33:31.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, we'll be right back, guys.

0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:40.120
<v Speaker 2>Okay. In the ending of the episode, Olivia resigns. She

0:33:40.240 --> 0:33:43.640
<v Speaker 2>writes a resignation letter she signs Olivia Pope. She includes

0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:46.720
<v Speaker 2>the Eisenhower pinn that she gave on the inauguration day.

0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:48.800
<v Speaker 2>She leaves it on the fucking desk of the O office.

0:33:48.880 --> 0:33:52.200
<v Speaker 2>She pieces out and she starts Olivia Fucking Pope and associates.

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:56.520
<v Speaker 1>Yes, uh so good. But do you think that Olivia knew?

0:33:57.160 --> 0:34:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Because Lindsay Dwyer slash Quinn Perkins is an exceptional worker

0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:04.200
<v Speaker 1>at OPA, do you know what I mean? She has

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:04.680
<v Speaker 1>that drive.

0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:05.240
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know.

0:34:05.480 --> 0:34:07.280
<v Speaker 1>So do you think she knew or she just took

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 1>a chance. She just wanted to save this girl.

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:11.560
<v Speaker 2>Because I hope she wanted to save her and felt like,

0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:14.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna keep her in my keeper round, under

0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:16.919
<v Speaker 2>my wing, to keep her around to make sure she's safe.

0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:19.239
<v Speaker 2>And then it sort of like ends it up that

0:34:19.440 --> 0:34:22.279
<v Speaker 2>all right, Like now this is just how it is,

0:34:22.320 --> 0:34:24.879
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm watching this girl like she's mine.

0:34:24.960 --> 0:34:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Oor man score for Olivia that Quinn Perkins ends up

0:34:28.000 --> 0:34:31.640
<v Speaker 1>being this freaking you know boss Chiller.

0:34:32.080 --> 0:34:35.440
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's so crazy. And the very very end of

0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:38.400
<v Speaker 2>the episode they're swearing in Sally Langston and like the

0:34:38.440 --> 0:34:41.640
<v Speaker 2>BackFlash of his pin that fell off. They have the

0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:45.160
<v Speaker 2>pin and Melly picks it up off the floor in

0:34:45.200 --> 0:34:47.719
<v Speaker 2>the hospital where it fell off where he's like bleeding out,

0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 2>and she puts it next to his shot up body.

0:34:50.600 --> 0:34:52.600
<v Speaker 2>And then the very very end, the last two minutes,

0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:55.000
<v Speaker 2>you know how he scanned do those last fucking thirty

0:34:55.040 --> 0:35:00.319
<v Speaker 2>seconds they go but crazy that they dream at it's

0:35:00.360 --> 0:35:01.919
<v Speaker 2>Huck that shot the press?

0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:06.759
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, how did you like Huck's work?

0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:07.279
<v Speaker 2>At the end?

0:35:07.800 --> 0:35:10.479
<v Speaker 1>I really liked it. Again, this was one of those

0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:14.160
<v Speaker 1>scenes where I had to learn how to assemble and

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:19.440
<v Speaker 1>disassemble a motherfucking rifle, which is so not me. I

0:35:19.480 --> 0:35:24.200
<v Speaker 1>can barely send like a video text to someone like I'm.

0:35:24.120 --> 0:35:28.280
<v Speaker 2>Just scared for links for Google link because he doesn't

0:35:28.320 --> 0:35:30.840
<v Speaker 2>know how to get it off his phone. He doesn't a.

0:35:30.960 --> 0:35:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Picture of me and I'm the most impatient person. When

0:35:33.520 --> 0:35:36.080
<v Speaker 1>I get frustrated, I'm not good at something and I

0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:38.480
<v Speaker 1>can't learn it. I get frustrated and I get mad,

0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:41.879
<v Speaker 1>and I remember being there and be like, Okay, let's

0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:44.480
<v Speaker 1>do it again. I was just so because I wasn't

0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:47.759
<v Speaker 1>getting it. And God bless Jeff Props, who just was,

0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:50.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, the nicest and the most patient person, and

0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:53.480
<v Speaker 1>just little by little, one piece by one piece, and

0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:57.640
<v Speaker 1>I learned how to. You know, Thank God for our

0:35:57.680 --> 0:36:00.160
<v Speaker 1>wonderful editors too, because they edited the shit out of this.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you had an assemble of an automatic rifle.

0:36:05.480 --> 0:36:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, but I I love it. I love that moment.

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:11.160
<v Speaker 1>I love the moment where he Huck turns around to

0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:13.920
<v Speaker 1>look for the bullet and you see that it's Huck. Oh.

0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:17.560
<v Speaker 1>I was so excited. Man, this is gonna get good.

0:36:18.600 --> 0:36:20.200
<v Speaker 1>And this is also I think this is where the

0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:24.400
<v Speaker 1>hashtag what the huck started. Oh, this is really one.

0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:26.799
<v Speaker 1>And then the next episode is where it's sort of

0:36:27.400 --> 0:36:31.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, a lot because people were like, oh, what

0:36:31.200 --> 0:36:32.720
<v Speaker 1>the heck, oh.

0:36:32.560 --> 0:36:35.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh oh, let's see if there are any fun fucking facts.

0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:36.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Mark Harrolic did not reprise his role as Press

0:36:41.280 --> 0:36:44.840
<v Speaker 2>Secretary Marvin Colegate. Did he get fired.

0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:48.720
<v Speaker 1>From the season. I don't know. You know, sometimes people

0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:49.480
<v Speaker 1>get jobs.

0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:52.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say that that's what happened because he's so talented.

0:36:52.760 --> 0:36:55.120
<v Speaker 2>I've worked with them before. He's amazing. And he's also

0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:57.200
<v Speaker 2>friends with a casting director and Jeff. I feel like

0:36:57.239 --> 0:36:58.399
<v Speaker 2>they've worked together a million times.

0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:00.080
<v Speaker 1>And listen, when you get it, when you get a

0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:03.080
<v Speaker 1>curring role or a you know, a featured role or

0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:06.959
<v Speaker 1>a guest starring role, there's no guarantee of continued work.

0:37:07.040 --> 0:37:09.919
<v Speaker 1>So as an actor, you have to continue searching for work.

0:37:09.960 --> 0:37:13.239
<v Speaker 1>And he probably booked a show or a movie where

0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:15.160
<v Speaker 1>he couldn't get off and he was working, so they

0:37:15.160 --> 0:37:16.560
<v Speaker 1>have to recast it.

0:37:16.760 --> 0:37:20.640
<v Speaker 2>And that's when they replaced him with Keko a Gina,

0:37:20.640 --> 0:37:24.280
<v Speaker 2>who replaced him as press secretary Britta Kagan, who tragically

0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:26.840
<v Speaker 2>in this episode her character was killed as a result

0:37:27.120 --> 0:37:28.840
<v Speaker 2>of your fucking girlfriend, Becky.

0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:31.879
<v Speaker 1>What a bit bitch. But also, can I just take

0:37:31.920 --> 0:37:34.799
<v Speaker 1>a moment and speak about Kaiko I hope I'm saying

0:37:34.840 --> 0:37:40.040
<v Speaker 1>her name right. Kaiko A Jenna, who is another regular

0:37:40.320 --> 0:37:43.920
<v Speaker 1>on a beloved show of mine, Gilmore Girls. She's one

0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:46.440
<v Speaker 1>of the leads in gilmart Girls. Yeah, play your name

0:37:46.480 --> 0:37:52.759
<v Speaker 1>is Keiko Keiko. She plays Rory's best friend Lane on

0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:53.760
<v Speaker 1>Gilmore Girls.

0:37:53.800 --> 0:37:56.399
<v Speaker 2>For she did one hundred and kidding me, one hundred and.

0:37:56.320 --> 0:37:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Fifty four episodes on Gilmore Girls. And that girl can

0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:01.640
<v Speaker 1>talk faster than any of us.

0:38:01.640 --> 0:38:03.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah. I remember auditioning for Gilmore Girls and they

0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:05.160
<v Speaker 2>would tell me to talk faster, and then the casting

0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:06.680
<v Speaker 2>director gave me the note, you talk out of the

0:38:06.719 --> 0:38:07.640
<v Speaker 2>side of your mouth.

0:38:08.120 --> 0:38:11.240
<v Speaker 1>Two. So does Milo into Meglia, what is she talking about?

0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:13.560
<v Speaker 1>He's the biggest side mouth talker in the world and

0:38:13.600 --> 0:38:15.080
<v Speaker 1>it's the sexiest thing ever.

0:38:15.239 --> 0:38:18.040
<v Speaker 2>I remember auditioning for Gilmore Girls and they were like,

0:38:18.080 --> 0:38:19.640
<v Speaker 2>you need to talk faster, and I was like, oh honey,

0:38:19.680 --> 0:38:21.279
<v Speaker 2>I got this and I'm talking so fast. She was like, also,

0:38:21.280 --> 0:38:22.640
<v Speaker 2>you only talking to the side of your mouth? Can

0:38:22.680 --> 0:38:23.200
<v Speaker 2>you not do that?

0:38:24.080 --> 0:38:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Are you cute? I'm so confused right now because again, Miglia,

0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:33.000
<v Speaker 1>who is a regular on Gilmore Girls. Who's hot Rory's

0:38:33.239 --> 0:38:37.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, boyfriend? For is any Yes, he's on this

0:38:37.480 --> 0:38:41.640
<v Speaker 1>is us and he's on a name Vinimiglia. I could

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<v Speaker 1>be KAMLEI.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's right. I think that's it.

0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:47.200
<v Speaker 1>I could be completely wrong, Lea, but I think it's

0:38:47.280 --> 0:38:52.600
<v Speaker 1>Vini Meglia. But homeboy has the cutest lisp and he

0:38:52.840 --> 0:38:54.680
<v Speaker 1>just talks out of the side of his mouth. Is

0:38:54.680 --> 0:38:57.680
<v Speaker 1>always funny that you know they were telling you, producers

0:38:58.280 --> 0:38:59.440
<v Speaker 1>was telling you not to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Keo is killed and I'm so bummed. She should

0:39:05.360 --> 0:39:09.759
<v Speaker 2>have had like a much bigger party. And then I

0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:14.520
<v Speaker 2>have continuity error. Referenced in Dirty Little Secrets, we learned

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<v Speaker 2>that as a part of the Defiance Conspiracy Lia deal,

0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:20.640
<v Speaker 2>Verna Thornton was to receive a seat on the Supreme Court,

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<v Speaker 2>the first Supreme Court justice to be nominated by the

0:39:23.080 --> 0:39:26.480
<v Speaker 2>Grand Administration. But in season one, episode two, a news

0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:29.720
<v Speaker 2>anchor reports that Patrick Keating is to be the president's

0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:35.480
<v Speaker 2>first Supreme Court nominee during his term. That's a continuity.

0:39:37.560 --> 0:39:39.799
<v Speaker 2>That's a continuity error, people, That's what that is.

0:39:40.560 --> 0:39:44.040
<v Speaker 1>So how do we expect these writers to keep all

0:39:44.120 --> 0:39:48.400
<v Speaker 1>these facts together? Like that's a teeny tiny continuity or

0:39:48.440 --> 0:39:51.279
<v Speaker 1>that I would never catch unless our producers for this

0:39:51.360 --> 0:39:53.359
<v Speaker 1>podcast told us, you know what you read.

0:39:53.520 --> 0:39:57.120
<v Speaker 2>And also we're not even in season five six yet.

0:39:57.120 --> 0:40:01.200
<v Speaker 2>I bet these continuity errors are going to get imagine

0:40:01.200 --> 0:40:03.720
<v Speaker 2>if you were on Gray's Anatomy like season twenty.

0:40:04.520 --> 0:40:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine?

0:40:05.840 --> 0:40:09.480
<v Speaker 2>No, I can't. I cannot imagine. Guess what time it

0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:15.400
<v Speaker 2>is now? Scandal Scandal, Scandal Scannel tweets of the talent.

0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:22.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I get very gassy when we do our tweets

0:40:22.600 --> 0:40:25.359
<v Speaker 1>at the time portion of this podcast.

0:40:25.480 --> 0:40:31.560
<v Speaker 2>Katie, me too, Germo and hungry. Okay, Yes, the Scandal writers.

0:40:31.560 --> 0:40:33.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I forgot that the Scandal writers had

0:40:33.960 --> 0:40:35.200
<v Speaker 2>their own handle.

0:40:35.560 --> 0:40:36.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, they were.

0:40:37.800 --> 0:40:40.880
<v Speaker 2>Yet god, everybody was so everybody was on Twitter. It

0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:43.760
<v Speaker 2>was the costume department, the wardrobe, the hair, the makeup,

0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:47.799
<v Speaker 2>the writers, everybody, Scandal writers wrote, The Scandal writers just

0:40:47.840 --> 0:40:52.120
<v Speaker 2>watched tonight's episode together on a big screen and it

0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:56.719
<v Speaker 2>is amazing. Ten nine Central people, big screen not required.

0:40:57.840 --> 0:41:01.200
<v Speaker 2>That is such a writery writ tweet. I've upseid.

0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:03.719
<v Speaker 1>Really, it's so well written. Yes, okay, and then we

0:41:03.760 --> 0:41:08.040
<v Speaker 1>have Chan at my friend Chan tweets one thing you

0:41:08.080 --> 0:41:11.160
<v Speaker 1>won't do is text slash call me while Olivia Pope

0:41:11.200 --> 0:41:13.399
<v Speaker 1>is on I need to find out who shot her

0:41:13.520 --> 0:41:17.200
<v Speaker 1>boo hashtag scandal agreed, Chan agree.

0:41:16.960 --> 0:41:21.520
<v Speaker 2>Reed at Dresshon on December sixth, tweeted first lady set

0:41:21.600 --> 0:41:24.880
<v Speaker 2>him up at jerm meets World. Fits done, been shot,

0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:27.880
<v Speaker 2>dead to the earth. Who y'all think did it? Hashtag

0:41:27.960 --> 0:41:31.399
<v Speaker 2>scandal I love and this person thinks the first lady

0:41:31.400 --> 0:41:33.960
<v Speaker 2>set him up, which, by the way, we haven't really

0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:35.120
<v Speaker 2>talked about that.

0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:35.640
<v Speaker 1>That's right.

0:41:35.719 --> 0:41:38.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they really did make it seem like she did it.

0:41:39.239 --> 0:41:42.080
<v Speaker 2>You think, how well, what before he gets out of

0:41:42.120 --> 0:41:44.440
<v Speaker 2>the car, she says, yes, yes, we shouldn't go. We

0:41:44.440 --> 0:41:46.719
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't go. I have a weird feeling, let's not go.

0:41:47.200 --> 0:41:50.680
<v Speaker 2>And then when he gets shot. They did a shot

0:41:50.680 --> 0:41:52.719
<v Speaker 2>in this episode where she lifts up her head and

0:41:52.760 --> 0:41:57.160
<v Speaker 2>she's like looking around kind of weirdly. I don't know.

0:41:57.280 --> 0:41:59.160
<v Speaker 2>I think they kind of framed her a little bit.

0:41:59.280 --> 0:42:02.000
<v Speaker 1>I never thought that when she's in the limo in

0:42:02.040 --> 0:42:04.640
<v Speaker 1>the previous episode saying let's not go. I don't want

0:42:04.640 --> 0:42:08.280
<v Speaker 1>to go. I just chalked that up to woman's intuition,

0:42:08.520 --> 0:42:11.560
<v Speaker 1>Like I thought, she feels something, she feels something's off,

0:42:11.840 --> 0:42:15.719
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't feel right. I almost respected her and loved

0:42:15.719 --> 0:42:18.640
<v Speaker 1>her even more because of because of that little piece

0:42:18.680 --> 0:42:20.480
<v Speaker 1>and that in the limo where she didn't want him

0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:23.640
<v Speaker 1>to go. I never equated that with her possibly setting

0:42:23.719 --> 0:42:28.640
<v Speaker 1>him up. Interesting, but well that that also speaks to

0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:33.799
<v Speaker 1>this next tweet by Focus at Shabina three, she says

0:42:34.080 --> 0:42:35.880
<v Speaker 1>that's why she didn't want to go to the dinner.

0:42:36.239 --> 0:42:39.160
<v Speaker 1>She knew he was getting shot. Hashtag scandal, which she's

0:42:39.200 --> 0:42:42.200
<v Speaker 1>speaking about Melly of course, which, well, there you go,

0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:45.520
<v Speaker 1>there you having another person thinks that she was possibly involved.

0:42:45.560 --> 0:42:49.680
<v Speaker 2>People thought that Mellie was possibly doing it. At Marvine

0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:53.719
<v Speaker 2>XO tweeted with hashtag scandal, Milly I love when people

0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:57.280
<v Speaker 2>call her Milly. Milly knew some shit was gonna go down.

0:42:58.320 --> 0:42:59.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't care. I don't care.

0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:03.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't care, I don't care. He just tweeted IDC period,

0:43:03.640 --> 0:43:05.160
<v Speaker 2>IDC period, which is I don't care, and I never

0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:06.520
<v Speaker 2>knew that till today period. Yes.

0:43:06.600 --> 0:43:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but also you'll check it out. It's funny how

0:43:09.080 --> 0:43:12.000
<v Speaker 1>it's all women that are saying this about another woman.

0:43:12.760 --> 0:43:16.279
<v Speaker 1>I wonder as a guy, I thought, oh no, she

0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:18.600
<v Speaker 1>just she feels something's off, so she doesn't want to go.

0:43:18.680 --> 0:43:20.960
<v Speaker 1>I never But of course the women are like, mmm,

0:43:21.520 --> 0:43:22.640
<v Speaker 1>she knew something was up.

0:43:22.640 --> 0:43:28.280
<v Speaker 2>She's yeah, right, that's right, Oh yeah, I mean yeah.

0:43:28.440 --> 0:43:31.520
<v Speaker 2>At Samantha D. Godwin tweets, haha, you know it's a

0:43:31.560 --> 0:43:34.560
<v Speaker 2>spicy episode. When at Scandal four, when one informs everyone

0:43:34.640 --> 0:43:38.239
<v Speaker 2>to not tweet at Tony Goldwyn tonight, well done, sir,

0:43:38.480 --> 0:43:40.280
<v Speaker 2>well done. Hashtag scandal.

0:43:41.239 --> 0:43:43.360
<v Speaker 1>And then we got that about I don't know not

0:43:43.480 --> 0:43:46.319
<v Speaker 1>to tweet Tony tonight. I don't know what that. I

0:43:46.360 --> 0:43:46.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know what that.

0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:50.279
<v Speaker 2>Oh, because it's so sexual. This episode was so sexual.

0:43:50.719 --> 0:43:55.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh, perhaps well. And then we have Golden Girls six

0:43:55.280 --> 0:43:57.400
<v Speaker 1>seventeen and she says, everyone at work is trying to

0:43:57.400 --> 0:44:00.560
<v Speaker 1>figure out who shot the president hashtag scan So it

0:44:00.600 --> 0:44:02.040
<v Speaker 1>was me, everybody, it was a Huck.

0:44:02.239 --> 0:44:04.279
<v Speaker 2>You guys all remember, like we're about to go down

0:44:04.320 --> 0:44:08.640
<v Speaker 2>a really dark journey with Huck. We're talking warderboarding. We're

0:44:08.680 --> 0:44:11.839
<v Speaker 2>talking dark and dark darkness underneath the Pentagon and what's

0:44:11.880 --> 0:44:14.240
<v Speaker 2>really going underneath the streets of DC. The next episode

0:44:14.239 --> 0:44:18.000
<v Speaker 2>we have up is called blown Away.

0:44:18.960 --> 0:44:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Little did I know that I was gonna venture out

0:44:21.600 --> 0:44:25.920
<v Speaker 1>into the world of nudity on prime time television.

0:44:26.560 --> 0:44:29.120
<v Speaker 2>You guys just weren't lucky enough to see it. But

0:44:29.200 --> 0:44:31.439
<v Speaker 2>everybody who was in the room who shot with Huck

0:44:31.560 --> 0:44:35.840
<v Speaker 2>that day when he was getting tortured Sawyrbo's dick and balls.

0:44:36.400 --> 0:44:39.320
<v Speaker 1>My country breakfast, two eggs and a Dolson.

0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:43.279
<v Speaker 2>You've never heard that.

0:44:44.000 --> 0:44:46.760
<v Speaker 1>You're welcome, Katie qlows, You're.

0:44:46.560 --> 0:44:51.720
<v Speaker 2>Welcome a country breakfast, country breakfast. Look out. I'm teaching

0:44:51.719 --> 0:44:53.759
<v Speaker 2>that to my son right away because I think it's

0:44:53.800 --> 0:44:55.520
<v Speaker 2>fucking hilarious. He's not gonna get it.

0:44:56.280 --> 0:44:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Folks, this has been a pleasure and a dream.

0:45:00.719 --> 0:45:04.480
<v Speaker 2>We can't wait to be back again for Blown Away.

0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:06.759
<v Speaker 2>We may or may not have a guest. You may

0:45:06.840 --> 0:45:09.600
<v Speaker 2>or may not hear about the country breakfast that Hucks

0:45:09.680 --> 0:45:14.560
<v Speaker 2>serves up while he's getting tortured in the Pentagon. What

0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:15.200
<v Speaker 2>a dream?

0:45:15.680 --> 0:45:18.600
<v Speaker 1>What is awesome? Thank you, Thank you guys, Thank you

0:45:18.640 --> 0:45:21.359
<v Speaker 1>gladiators for listening and going on this journey with us.

0:45:21.400 --> 0:45:22.680
<v Speaker 1>This is like creating Hello.

0:45:22.760 --> 0:45:31.319
<v Speaker 2>Should we say, oh, Fiva la vida, everybody, Viva la vida.

0:45:31.400 --> 0:45:35.520
<v Speaker 2>And thank you Shonda Rhymes for writing this episode or

0:45:35.640 --> 0:45:37.400
<v Speaker 2>this episode was five years This is.

0:45:37.400 --> 0:45:39.239
<v Speaker 1>A good one. Go watch this. If you guys haven't

0:45:39.239 --> 0:45:41.239
<v Speaker 1>watched it and you heard the podcast episode, go to

0:45:41.280 --> 0:45:42.440
<v Speaker 1>the episode on Hulu.

0:45:43.160 --> 0:45:49.560
<v Speaker 2>Happy birthday, mister President. Could you imagine doing that? Mister President?

0:45:49.760 --> 0:45:52.040
<v Speaker 2>Say it again? And then he says, wait, no, what

0:45:52.040 --> 0:45:52.600
<v Speaker 2>did you say say?

0:45:52.640 --> 0:45:52.960
<v Speaker 1>I like it?

0:45:53.000 --> 0:45:56.919
<v Speaker 2>What you say say it again. Oh good. So you'll

0:45:56.920 --> 0:45:58.839
<v Speaker 2>play Olivia and I'll play fits.

0:45:59.360 --> 0:46:01.600
<v Speaker 1>We gotta put we gotta do that, We gotta pitch that.

0:46:01.719 --> 0:46:02.760
<v Speaker 1>If we could like read.

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<v Speaker 2>That scene me, I belong to you.

0:46:07.800 --> 0:46:12.279
<v Speaker 1>That was so good, That was so good. I got

0:46:12.440 --> 0:46:20.960
<v Speaker 1>cho Bye, y'all, bye everybody. Thank you guys for joining

0:46:21.000 --> 0:46:24.359
<v Speaker 1>us on Unpacking the Toolbox. If you enjoyed the show,

0:46:24.400 --> 0:46:27.560
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0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:36.160
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