1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Mackenzie Milton, Florida State quarterback, had quite a weekend, 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: even though Florida State lost that game in overtime to 4 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: Notre Dame. And sort of the backstory, we had him 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: on the show three years ago. He was at Central 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: Florida and uh, you know, he was there with Scott 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: Frost and this was that that great resurgence with that 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: program and he was electric quarterback out of Hawaii and 9 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: then he got injured, devastating injury, and they thought at 10 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 1: some point they were gonna they might have to amputate 11 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: his right leg. And then he had surgery after surgery, 12 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: seven surgeries. There was an infection in there and I 13 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: just thought, you know, he's probably going to be a 14 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: coach somewhere, And all of a sudden, this ghost appeared, 15 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: reappeared on the sidelines with Florida State, and I go, oh, 16 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: my gosh, McKenzie Milton is on the sidelines there with 17 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: Florida State. But he joins US. Now, you know, I 18 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: know it's been a long journey. But let me let 19 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: me go back to Jordan Travis's helm that comes off 20 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: in the game and then you go in. But when 21 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: you go in, do you think you're in there for 22 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: longer than one play? I truly didn't know. Um, I 23 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: didn't know what you know, the coaching's thought process was 24 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: in that situation. But you know we went in there. 25 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: It called a pass play, a little smash concept, and 26 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: you know, I through the corner route after we had 27 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:32,839 Speaker 1: a big plast figure. You know, I'd stay in because 28 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: usually would like to go temple after we get a 29 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: first down. So you know, I just stayed in there 30 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: and you know, roll with it and then momentum energy, 31 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: you get adrenaline going. How important was that for you? 32 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: And did at any point you think about your knee 33 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: your leg? Yeah? I think, you know, always getting that 34 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: first completion and always getting that first first down is 35 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: important anytime you're trying to get in the rhythm. So 36 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: I think that was a day too. You know, hit 37 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: that first round out to Jakai and just get the 38 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: sticks moving and then you know, I think the first 39 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: time I got tackled, uh, you know, I kind of 40 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: got bent up a little, and obviously I felt like 41 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 1: them tackle on my leg, but you know I felt fun. 42 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: I didn't feel anything twins. I didn't feel anything like uncomfortable. 43 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: So you know I felt good out there, felt felt 44 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: good running, cutting, sliding. Um, there's a lot of fun, 45 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: a lot of fun to be back out there. Do 46 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: you realize health tough at what's on your parents watching? Yeah? 47 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: I know my mom was um and I'm a mom. 48 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: She she doesn't really want me playing football, you know, 49 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: she's um. She wants me to get into coaching already. 50 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: But I think you can only you can only truly understand, 51 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: you know, if you go through it, and you know 52 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: you play this game and you love this game too, 53 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: to come back from something like I did, and that's 54 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: really any injury, Um, any tough injury that you go 55 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: through kind of takes a twisted individual that you know 56 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: likes to go through pain and likes to just loves 57 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 1: this game so much. Put they'll put their body to 58 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: through extremely tough things to play this game at a 59 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: high level. How many times did you say I can't 60 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: do it? I don't think I ever said I can't 61 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: do it. There is definitely times I said I don't 62 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: know if I can do this, just in terms of um, 63 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: whether it be out at practice and you know, my 64 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: leg would just be killing me like a ten out 65 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: of ten pagn or just days that I didn't feel 66 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: like doing it. But you know, I had great teammates, 67 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: great people pushing me through my rehab. You know, obviously 68 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: you got to have some internal motivation, but having those 69 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: people around you, that those right support systems makes all 70 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: the difference. And you know, that's what I've had for 71 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: my time at UCF to my time here, just everybody 72 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: pushing me to to help me reach my goals that 73 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: I set for myself, and I was to play football game. 74 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: What was the worst day you had? Definitely, you know, 75 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: getting my infection, um, because I was progressing to a 76 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: point where I probably I probably would have been on 77 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: track to you know, be back on the football field 78 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: and really in twenty twenty, um like playing at a 79 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: probably playing at that point, but you know, it's about 80 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: four months out of my initial reconstruction surgery. My range 81 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: emotion was the grade I was back in the weight 82 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: room doing things way I had a schedule, and then 83 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: I got an infection which resulted in like four more surgeries. 84 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: So that was the hardest day and just the hardest 85 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: process of just like basically start starting from square run 86 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: one and rehab and in terms of getting flection on 87 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: my knee and just just basically setting me back eighteen 88 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: months really to get back to where I wanted to 89 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: get to. But you know, just one of those things, 90 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: you know, like there was some curveballs sometimes and you 91 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: know I had to sit in that batter's box and 92 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: you know, wait on't wait on the right pitch, and 93 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: you know, here I am. September twenty one was the 94 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: day that that was meant for me to step back 95 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: out there, and I felt great doing it. Did you 96 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: ever talk to Alex Smith? Alex texting me, I think 97 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: when I got clear to start practicing UM last year, 98 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: and that was really cool just being able to watch 99 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: him last year go through and you know, he probably 100 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: had it worse than me with what he went through, 101 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: So just seeing him come back, seeing guys like Jalen Smith, 102 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: guys like Teddy Bridgewater, obviously, you know some of theirs 103 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: weren't to the extent probably Alex and I, but they 104 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: still went through it, you know what I mean. They 105 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: went through that rehab, they went through what they had 106 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: to and got to playing at elite levels. So seeing 107 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: guys like that just gave me all the motivation in 108 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: the road that I could do something of that nature. 109 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: When you go back to the injury, did you realize 110 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: what did you realize at the time. I knew it 111 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: was bad. I knew it was bad just seeing my 112 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: leg dangling like that. I knew it wasn't like a 113 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: normal acl or anything like that. Um. Obviously having a 114 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: rush to the hospital kind of gives you some concerns 115 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and waking up with you know, 116 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: external fixat metal bars two three feet sticking out of 117 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: your leg. It is just like it's humbling, you know 118 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: what I mean. Having to go from you know, really 119 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: feeling like you're the best, best player and at any 120 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: any game on the field to not being able to 121 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: walk for an extended amount of time really like six months, 122 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: and you know that's that's just a humbling feeling. Puts 123 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: things into perspective. And then when you get back to 124 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: the point where I'm at being able to run, jump, 125 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: cut and play play the game you love again and 126 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: makes it all more sweet. We're talking to Mac Milton 127 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: and you got Jacksonville State. Is Sweeken who's starting? I'm 128 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: not sure that's that's a that's a question for the 129 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: headball coach. My my nil earnings, that's out of my 130 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: pay grade. You're turning twenty four in October. How much 131 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: grief do you get from your eighteen nineteen year old teammates? Man? 132 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: Too much? Too much. They're on They're on my bat 133 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: all the time, Like, what was this your eight tenth 134 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: year of college? It's all good fun, man. I love 135 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: being in locker room. I love I love, I love 136 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: being around the guys. It's it's there's nothing like it. 137 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: You're gonna be a coach when you're done, Yeah, sir, 138 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: that's the plan. That's the plan. Are you gonna stay 139 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: at Florida State? I'm not sure. Wherever the opportunities present themselves. 140 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: You know, I feel like, you know, I've made some 141 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: great connections and have had great insight from you know, 142 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: coach Marbel to coach Frost to coach Hype so um 143 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: learn from great offensive minds, and I feel like the 144 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: tools I learned from them will equip me wherever I go. 145 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: See the problem with you coaching, though, Mac, is whenever 146 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: you have an injury, then they're gonna like they can't 147 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: get any sympathy from you. Look, it's hard for me 148 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: to feel sorry for people, like when they get hurt, 149 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: you know, I like, I feel I have empathy for 150 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: them going through that that rehab process. But to me, 151 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: it's a mindset and how you and how you attack it. So, um, 152 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: whenever my guys, whenever my teammates go through it, I'm 153 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: always there, you know, trying to pick them up and 154 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: support them. But you know, that's the cars that they 155 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: were dealt, and that's the cars that I was dealt. 156 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: So everybody's got their battles to fight, and you know 157 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: I have mine, and you know, we got some guys 158 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: going through some things right now. So to me, when 159 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: I'm a coach, I'm gonna support them through and through, 160 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: just like my coaches didn't me. I asked this to 161 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: Alex Smith. I said, nobody ever asked you about your 162 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 1: good leg, So let me ask you about how's your 163 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 1: good leg, man, because honestly, sometimes it probably giving me 164 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: more problems than me than I heard. So, um, do 165 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: you have a bionic Do you have a bionic right leg? Yeah? 166 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 1: I got a terminator leg on that side. Well, congrat 167 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: It's a great story, but it's not done, and I 168 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: know you can't be satisfied by just making a little 169 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: cameo against Notre Dame. But yes, sir, yes, sir. Yeah. 170 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,719 Speaker 1: Good luck to Jordan are with that competition, because I'm 171 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: sure you'll be You'll have your helmet on for every game, 172 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: ready to go in. But hey, congrats Mack. It's a 173 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: great story, and good luck the rest of the season. 174 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 1: Thank I appreciate you. Thanks for listening to The Dan 175 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every 176 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: weekday morning nine to noon Eastern or six to nine 177 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for 178 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show at Fox Sports Radio dot com, 179 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app 180 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: by searching f s R, or stream us live on 181 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: the Peacock app. Chip Kelly, fourth year at UCLA and 182 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: U two and oh beat Hawaiian LSU and coach joins 183 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 1: us on the program. Coach, congratulations, how did you celebrate 184 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 1: after the win against LSU. We're at home because it 185 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: was a night game, so there wasn't a lot of celebration. Um, 186 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: you got to play the late games here on the 187 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 1: West Coast. Uh, gotta get your sleep, so we had 188 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: to be back in the next day and great the film, 189 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: So just went home after the game. That's it nothing. Wow, 190 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 1: it's game two. Well, okay, it feels like this was 191 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 1: a big win. Did it feel like a big win 192 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: to you? It did? I think the Rose Bowl was electric. Um, 193 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: you know, obviously you're you're playing a team from LSU 194 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 1: when you know the SEC West and you know the 195 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 1: reputation that they have and what a good football program 196 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: it is, so our guys were excited about it. But 197 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: also I was sort of surprised at the physicality of 198 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: your team against a team from the SEC. We normally 199 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: see it the other way around. How important was it 200 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: to try? I mean, you guys pushed them around, certainly 201 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: in the running game. Um, were you surprised? Yeah, I 202 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 1: mean that's just what we are, you know, and you 203 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't. I don't think we were surprised, 204 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: But I that's what we have to do to win. 205 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: You know, that's our strength. We've got a veteran offensive 206 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: line coming back. We have two really physical running backs, 207 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: so we knew going into the game for us to 208 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: have any success on the offensive side of the ball, 209 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna have to run it. And then our play 210 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: action passed was really successful coming off of that, but 211 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 1: that that's kind of who we are. You know, we're 212 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 1: not going to try to because we have an opponent 213 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,599 Speaker 1: in here, like, hey, let's line up in in uh no, 214 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: backs the whole game and throw the ball over the joint. 215 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: You know, that's not what we do. And it's really 216 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: the test is we do what we do, they do 217 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: what they do, and then you see if it works. 218 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: And we were fortunate to come out on top. But 219 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 1: when did you decide that you wanted this style of 220 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: offense as opposed to what everybody else is trying to 221 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: do in college football, and that's you know, five wide 222 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: and let's just fling it around. Yeah, you know, when 223 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: I left college, we were basically five wide flinging it 224 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: around and had shiny helmets. And then when I came 225 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 1: back to college, everybody had it. So maybe just being 226 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 1: a contrarian, let's go the other way. But it was 227 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: also a byproduct of the players that we had here. 228 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:58,719 Speaker 1: When I got here, there were a lot of tight 229 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: ends to exploit them. When I was in the NFL, 230 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,599 Speaker 1: I had Zach Ertz and Brent Sellick. We were in 231 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: twelve personnel a lot in the NFL, so I learned 232 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: a lot about playing with multiple tight ends. So we're 233 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: just trying to play to our strengths. And we've got 234 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: a good group of those guys and we have too tough, 235 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: hard nosed, physical running backs. So it fits us right now. 236 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: And I wonder about that that would we see this 237 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 1: like basketball? Everybody shoots the three, and I wonder if 238 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: somebody's going to be contrarian and go, hey, you're gonna 239 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: have to stop us inside, you know, having a running 240 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: team as opposed to everybody. You know, defensive players are 241 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: not as big as they once were there, you know, 242 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: speed you got to cover everybody. And I wondered about 243 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 1: that with college football, are you are you trying to 244 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: exploit that that you see an opening here? Yeah, your 245 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: spot on. You know a lot of people, ourselves included, 246 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 1: have put more speed on the field on the defensive 247 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 1: side of the ball. But if you put more speed 248 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: on the field, you sacrifice some size. So then what 249 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: is the matchup that you're trying to exploit? You know? 250 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: Is it if they're small, you want to go vague 251 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: and if they're big, you want to go small. So 252 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: the key is having the ability to do both, you know, 253 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: and whatever the situation dictates you can do it, and 254 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: I think that's what the good teams do. You know, 255 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: you look at Alabama, who's probably the top team in 256 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: the country. Um. You know last year they threw the 257 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 1: heck out of the ball with Mac Jones and all 258 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: those receivers, but they could run the heck out of 259 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: the ball with Maggie Harris also, so they If you 260 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: have the ability to do both, I think that's what 261 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: makes your lead. So I think that's what we're all 262 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: striving for. UM. But good coaches, good teams, they played 263 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: to their strengths and that and obviously our running game 264 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: right now is a strength for us. Do you wish 265 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: you were playing this weekend? I do. I mean I 266 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: wish we played every day, to be honest with you. 267 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: But obviously the nature of the game, you know, it's 268 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: not baseball. You only get twelve opportunities. We did get 269 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: an early game, and that was beneficial to us. UM. 270 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 1: I think you grow the most between your first game 271 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: and your second game. The fact that it was our 272 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: second in their first was an advantage for us. But 273 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: because we played a week zero game, you're going to 274 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 1: have to get another by in there, and our our 275 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: first buy occurs this week. UM, so we'll use this 276 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: as an improvement week. We're out in the field and 277 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 1: in about an hour. UM, we'll get a couple of 278 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 1: training sections in this week and then get ready for 279 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: a really good friend Noel team who played Oregon really 280 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 1: close to this uh this past weekend. He's Jim Kelly, 281 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: UCLA head coach joining us Dan Patrick show. You know 282 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: you're there in Hollywood. You know all these actors, famous people. 283 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: You get mistaken for anybody? Uh, Jackie Cham No, I 284 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: don't think I get mistaken for anybody. Maybe an older 285 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: Vanilla Ice. I don't. I don't think I know. I don't. Uh. Okay, 286 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: I don't. Thank goodness, you could be a Farley brother. Okay, 287 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: they're funny, they are. I'm not as funny as though 288 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: I could laugh. I would be like the Farley brother 289 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: that just laughed while the other guys tell jokes. Are 290 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: you funny in practice? Because in my mood I can 291 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: be sarcastic in practice, which is my Northeast upbringing. I 292 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: think I'm funny. Now someone else may not think I'm party. 293 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: Because Alabama players talk about Nick Saban and they say 294 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: he's funny in practice. Yeah, I would think it depends 295 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: on who the player is or Belichick. You know Belichick, 296 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: the players who play for him. Like Bill, he's got 297 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: a great sense of humor. He does have a great 298 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: I think that's one of the biggest misconceptions in this 299 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: world because everybody judges Bill by his sound bites with 300 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: the media, but as a person and when you visit 301 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: with Bill, I mean, he's one of the most intelligent, 302 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: well thought out, sharp people I've ever met my entire life. 303 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: So I can see that Bill's got a great sense 304 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: of human But does he crack you up? Like how 305 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: does it work? Though? Chip? When when when you're out 306 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: at dinner or you're you know what, when what happens? 307 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: It's just I think people have a perception and then 308 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: there's the reality. And I think he's really sharp. It's 309 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: it's a dry wit um and and a lot of 310 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: times it's coming out of left field because there's a 311 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: could be a serious conversation going on and you're like, 312 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: did he just say that? And it's, uh, it's hilarious. 313 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: But he's really really smart and and it's intelligent humor, 314 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: it's pretty it's pretty it's pretty funny. But you talk. 315 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: Can you talk football when you go to dinner? Yeah, 316 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: I think you can talk football twenty four seven build. 317 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: So the conversation always goes back to that, but then 318 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: it changes when he'll tell you about his trips and 319 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: where he's banning, what he's done. Um. You know, he's 320 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: not just a football guy twenty four seven. Um, but 321 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: he's he's he may be one of the world the 322 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: mortal's most interesting man if you get a chance to 323 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: visit and talk with him. But he's never gonna let 324 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: that happen though, Chip, Yeah, that's that's what makes him interesting. Uh. 325 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: You have no sissy blue shirt on today? I see, 326 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: I just heard about that yesterday. So I do a 327 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: lot because those are our school colors, I guess. So 328 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 1: we do wear those shirts a lot. That's part of 329 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: what we show up to on home games. So, UM, 330 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 1: I think it was just it was funny. I think 331 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: people have had fun with it. You get there's a 332 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: lot of panther that goes on when you walk into stadiums. 333 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: I've learned that it's better just to not say anything 334 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: and get into the locker room. But um, coach coach 335 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: can handle himself, So I worry about that fan. He 336 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: better make sure careful what he says. I wouldn't want 337 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 1: to taggle with all. Well, the joke is funnier when 338 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: you win, So it's it's yeah, yeah, isn't that always 339 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 1: the case? Yeah, good luck, Thanks, congratulations on the win 340 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: against Ellishoe. Great to see you. We've come a long 341 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 1: way since I had Yon during COVID and we didn't 342 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: know what the hell was going on with college football, 343 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: and it seems like a long time ago. It does. 344 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: I was in a submarine for about sixteen months and 345 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: the only time I ever came up from air was 346 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: to talk to you guys. And it's good to finally 347 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: be on on the submarine and back out with fans 348 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: in the stands and back to some sense of normalcy. 349 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: So it's it's good. It's good. We just gotta keep 350 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: this thing rolling. Thank you, coach. Great to talk to 351 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: you again, all right, Dan, take care, Thank you. Thanks 352 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure 353 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 1: to catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon 354 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and 355 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR 356 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: or stream us live on the Peacock app. Hey, it's Ben, 357 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: host of The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller along with 358 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: my trustee sidekick David Gascon. Would mean a lot to 359 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: have you join us on our weekly auditory journey. You're 360 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: asking one in God's name is the Fifth Hour? I'll 361 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: tell you it's a spin off of that Ben Maller 362 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: show could hit overnights on FSR. Why should you listen? 363 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: Picture if you will a world will We chat with 364 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: captains of industry in media, sports and more every week 365 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: explorer some amazing facts about a human nature and more. 366 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: Let's sen to the Fifth Hour with Ben Maller on 367 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you your podcast. 368 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: Presbyterian beat Saint Andrew's over the weekend. You might not 369 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: have noticed although Presbyterians quarterback A Michigan transferred through ten 370 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: touchdown passes and the reason why the game caught our 371 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: eye is the head coach at Presbyterian is Kevin Kelly. 372 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: And we covered this story a couple of years ago 373 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: where coach never punted. I don't even know if he 374 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: has a punter on his team, and we thought, okay, 375 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: he made his college debut and certainly made an impact 376 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: with eighty four forty three win over Saint Andrew's and 377 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: coach joins us, you gave up forty three points though, coach, 378 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: I mean eighty four you scored, but you still gave 379 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: up forty three. Oh, we did. We've got a lot 380 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 1: of work to do on both sides, to be honest. 381 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: But our games are kind of like that because we 382 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: shorten the field a lot. If we don't make a 383 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: fourth down in a bad spot, the field shorter. If 384 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: we on site gig don't get at, the field shorter, 385 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: so it usually ends up a little higher scoring games. 386 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: Do you have a punter on your squad? There was 387 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: one year when I came and he trans I know 388 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: that was People always asked me what was going to 389 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: happen if I became a college coach. I'd never I 390 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: thought it was always a joke, and then it really 391 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: kind of happened. But a transfer, okay, But didn't you? 392 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: Have you changed anything since you've gone from high school 393 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: to college? No? No, you know, I mean, and think 394 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: about it. You know you've moved up in the world. 395 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: If you change anything that got you there, you feel 396 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: like if it goes bad, you'll be always mad at yourself, like, 397 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't do what got me here, and 398 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: you know, I think all the success and I think 399 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 1: I've got math and science behind it. I think it 400 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: proved it. So I was gonna do what I believe in, 401 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 1: because it isn't that what we're supposed to do for 402 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 1: our guys on the field. Make the decisions we believe in. 403 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: It gives them the best chance. But what was the 404 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: reaction when you did this in high school? Like when 405 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 1: you people realize you weren't going to punt? Yeah, I 406 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: mean at first there was some booze from our own crowd, 407 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: and then you know, and then there was you know, 408 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: the media was writing bad things about it and negative 409 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: and there was a lot of naysayers, and then you know, 410 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: as we started winning, those kind of went away. And 411 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 1: then I had to deal with the coaches because I 412 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: would go to coaches clinics and coaches would sit away 413 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: from me like I had leprosy or something because they 414 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: were like, you're making a mockery of our game. And 415 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm just trying to win at a school 416 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: that had never won anything, you know, and I have 417 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 1: to do something different because I think I'm a good 418 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: football coach. I think I'm really good at some things. 419 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: But you know, if you can find an advantage somewhere else, 420 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: even if it's just a little one here and there, 421 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: those add up. I call it the casino theory. A 422 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: one and a half percent advantage at blackjack and a 423 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: point eight in craps, and they always win. So if 424 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: we can do that and give ourselves a little edge 425 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: by just making better decisions, and it works. So I 426 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: fought them at first, and I thought the media would 427 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: be the worst part, And you guys are the ones 428 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 1: that actually made it okay to do because when some 429 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: media guys started doing positive spins on it, the social 430 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 1: side came over. They're like, okay, they like it. We 431 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: like it, so it's not nearly as bad. Now, give 432 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 1: me the analytics behind not punting. You know, really you 433 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: should punt some in theory and according to the numbers themselves, 434 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: but field position and expected points and I won't worry 435 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: with all the real true analytics of the game. But 436 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 1: people should punt a lot less in the game than 437 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 1: they do now. I mean, it's just proven even at 438 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 1: times on your own end of the field in the 439 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: first quarter of the game, and those kinds of things, 440 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 1: and I've decided not to do that. But the more 441 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: I did it, and I saw that we were punting 442 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: so little at one time when I was at first 443 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: experimenting that it was a waste of time to waste 444 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes a day on the punt team, and that 445 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes I got to work on something else that 446 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: we needed to on offense or defense. Well, they don't 447 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 1: measure that in the analytics world. So you should really 448 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: punt if you value those fifteen minutes a day, even 449 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: you should punt even less than the number. Say you've 450 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 1: heard from other coaches, very successful coaches who came in 451 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: to pick your brain. Man, I mean a lot of people, 452 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: and a lot of them asks me not to name them. 453 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: So I'm kind of scared. But but it's been a 454 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 1: who's who, Like Bill Billichick, Well you know Bill Bill, 455 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: and Bill just likes talking football. I don't think he's 456 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: ever gonna go the no punt route, don't get any wrong. 457 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 1: But it's curious though, Yeah, I mean I think I 458 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 1: think I think curious. I think you know, you know 459 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,199 Speaker 1: we I think he likes to be around people that 460 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: are successful, and he sees certain things and and maybe 461 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: he was just I don't know if curious is the thing. 462 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: But we've talked some football, and I'll guarantee you this, 463 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: I've learned a lot more from him than he asked 464 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: for me. But he's watched our games and watched what 465 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: we do, and I think he's trying to see maybe 466 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: some of the psychological effects that it has on the 467 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: teams as well as as well as what it looks like. 468 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: But I think that's There's a lot of coaches that 469 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: have done that, but I've had some of the biggest 470 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: names in coaching. You know. Nick Saban told me at 471 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: one point, um, and I don't think Nick minds that 472 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: I mentioned his name, because he's Nick. He can do 473 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: whatever he wants to. But he looked and he said, 474 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: I think you're probably right more than you're wrong. But 475 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: it's hard to do that because of all the things 476 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: you have to face, and you'd have to win your 477 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: team over that traditionally think a different way, and he 478 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: was winning anyway, so what you know, why would he 479 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: change anything? But do you think this might hamper you 480 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: in getting promoted moving up the ladder in college? Absolutely absolutely, 481 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: And it's hampered me so far. I've interviewed for a 482 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: lot of jobs, you know, whether it's a coordinator or 483 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: a head coach or even a position coach, and it 484 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: doesn't stop the positions. But you know, the athletic director 485 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: always thinks if I hire the wrong football coach, and 486 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 1: we know this to be true, Dad, he might get fired. 487 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: And the other thing they don't want to deal with 488 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: And I've been told by athletic directors they don't want 489 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 1: to deal with the media that comes along with it. 490 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: If you do lose a game and make a decision 491 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: that they think is non traditional, then they've got to 492 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 1: answer questions too, and a lot of them don't want 493 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: to do that. So yeah, it absolutely might hamper me. 494 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: But again it goes back to this. I think a 495 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: football coach's job, besides knowing football, if it's aalitating the 496 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: relationships and coaching, is when it comes to the moment, 497 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 1: are you making the decision you think is best for 498 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,959 Speaker 1: your team or so you don't have to deal with 499 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: the media or have to deal with not moving up 500 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: in the profession. And I just decided a long time ago, 501 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 1: my job is to do the decision that's gonna help 502 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: us win games. Because those guys deserve the reward of 503 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 1: all the hard work, the players, the assistant coaches, the 504 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 1: fans because they pay to seat it. So I went 505 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: that route, and if it happens, it happens. If it done, 506 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't. If you coached in the NFL, would you punt? 507 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: You know? I've you know, it's not that I never punt. 508 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 1: We've put it eight times in the last sixteen years. 509 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: Oh wow, Okay, I know it's not. But there are 510 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: times to punt. So the answer is we may punt 511 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: this year or so we may punt, you know. But yes, 512 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure there would be times I'd punt the NFL. 513 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: There would be a lot less than what anybody else 514 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 1: is doing, though. But let's say it's fourth and ten 515 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 1: at your own twenty first quarter, no score, first quarter, 516 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: no score. Who's my quarterback? The same guy for ten 517 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 1: touchdowns over the weekend? Oh yeah, no, I'm not. I'm 518 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: probably I'm probably not funning, okay, because I feel like 519 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 1: we've got a good offensive scheme too, that I've got 520 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: a good chance to make ten yards a better chance 521 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: than another team. You're facing my own water in a 522 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Who's that Dayton Oh. Nice. Yeah, I'm 523 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: excited about that. I hope they don't make us punt. 524 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: They have some great punt returners on that Dayton team. 525 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: I'm good. Look at that. We're eliminating the game, taking 526 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 1: that out of play. Can you can you schedule anybody 527 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: like a big name school, man, I'm looking at what 528 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 1: you have here, Uh, any chances of getting I don't know, Clemson, 529 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: They've played Clemson, They've played Alabama. Yeah, last I'll think 530 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 1: in the last ten years. Yeah, and you know the 531 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 1: schedule was made when I got here. But that's one 532 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: of the first things I asked the athletic director said, 533 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 1: next time we get a spot to open up if 534 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: we can. Besides the money because we're a tight we're 535 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: the smallest Division one school in the country. Besides that 536 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: and the money you get from we don't have any money, 537 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,479 Speaker 1: so we can use that. But so I told him 538 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 1: I want to because even kids I've had that have 539 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: gone on to colleges, Like I had a quarterback that 540 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: played at kids State and he started four years there 541 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: and he went and played at Alabama and they just 542 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: got killed, as you would imagine, fifty five to six 543 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: or something like that. But if you ask him what 544 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 1: game he remembers the most, It's I got to play 545 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: in Tusca Loosa. So everybody's like, well, they'll get beat 546 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: up physically, Well, I coached that part of the game 547 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: different to get out of bounds, don't get hit, to 548 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 1: be healthy for the next game. But they'll remember that 549 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 1: game and that gives those guys some memories and some 550 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: talk that they get to play. And I don't think 551 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: it hurts recruiting either. You're not afraid of anybody. No, no, 552 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: and I teams I don't think want to play us 553 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: because they don't want to deal with the not puny, 554 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 1: they don't want to deal with the onside chicks, those 555 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 1: kinds of things. Well, good, it's great to talk to you, keV, 556 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: and good luck with the upcoming season. I appreciate you 557 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 1: having me on. This is a bucket list thing. I 558 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: got to check another thing off the bucket list because 559 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: the great game of football, Well, it's like going to 560 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 1: Tuscaloosa and facing Nick Saban. Yeah. I would like to 561 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: do that too. Now it might not end as well 562 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: as sister. Yeah, thank you, coach. We appreciate your time. 563 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: Thanks Dan, I appreciate it.