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Speaker 1: is pinned in the chat. Okay, we saw the debut today.
Speaker 1: Travis Hunter Ojo saw action on both sides of the
Speaker 1: football in his preseason debut the Jags versus the Steelers.
Speaker 1: On offense, he had eleven snaps, two receptions nine yards.
Speaker 1: On defense, he had eight snaps with zero targets. Ojo,
Speaker 1: I might have to get a couple of more jobs
Speaker 1: like you because the way they got these games spread
Speaker 1: out and how you're gonna have to pay. Damn there,
Speaker 1: you basically got to pay to watch each individual game.
Speaker 2: Oho, I mean, listen, you know what you can do.
Speaker 3: You can use YouTube TV. You can use YouTube TV
Speaker 3: when you get most of the games. And also I
Speaker 3: have an NFL app on my phone, so the NFL
Speaker 3: app allows you to be able to go back and
Speaker 3: forth through some of the games you want to. You
Speaker 3: can't see them all at the same time, but just
Speaker 3: the preseason, it's just the preseason, so it's kind of
Speaker 3: difficult to be able to watch the ones you want
Speaker 3: to watch based on location, right and when where they are.
Speaker 2: Most of most of them are regional games right right right.
Speaker 3: But once once the regular season gets in gets in,
Speaker 3: you know you'll be able to watch multiple at one time,
Speaker 3: especially the one o'clock games obviously, the four thirty games,
Speaker 3: and then those that are stated at seven thirty, right.
Speaker 1: He did have eleven snaps, two receptions for nine yards. Uh,
Speaker 1: nothing deep, nothing significant. He came up leverage on one play.
Speaker 1: He'll learn these guys are really good. Hey, if you
Speaker 1: got leverage and he had leverage and let the guy
Speaker 1: bounced out side, you ain't you ain't get you ain't
Speaker 1: catching those guys. You got to maintain your your laying
Speaker 1: the responsibility, integrity. But like I said, it was it
Speaker 1: was you know, I just wanted to see what you know,
Speaker 1: we saw what we saw? What whatn't you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, if I mean, how do we rate it?
Speaker 2: He caught three pans for nine yards and eight snaps
Speaker 2: with no targets.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the one thing is it's kind of
Speaker 3: it's not it's not nippicking. One thing that he will
Speaker 3: learn too. On the two pass that he get he
Speaker 3: did he did catch. I called it. I always call
Speaker 3: it that Marvin Harrison, remember Peyton Manning and Marvin Harrison
Speaker 3: always having that.
Speaker 2: Under that short six yards and coming in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he did so well in college that the players
Speaker 3: and the dbs in college didn't do. They would over
Speaker 3: commit so much. He'd be able to spin out the
Speaker 3: back door. He'd be able to the back door. But
Speaker 3: now now that you're at the next level, they don't
Speaker 3: over commit. They come to ballance right away and they
Speaker 3: make the tackle.
Speaker 2: So you got to be careful with that. But you
Speaker 2: know them big guys, big guys trailing now.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, you know hey.
Speaker 2: Because what happened when they see that ball throwing? What
Speaker 2: do they do? They coming? Yeah, they're coming. But but
Speaker 2: this is the thing you gotta remember.
Speaker 3: He's coming from outside the end and trying to spin
Speaker 3: back outside. Yes, heb is out of control, but most
Speaker 3: of the time they're not out of control. No, so
Speaker 3: they were under control. Let's say you you you spit
Speaker 3: the man in half. When your attack coming to tackle,
Speaker 3: you always hit the target.
Speaker 2: So I mean, if you.
Speaker 1: Keep going off, you don't let him get on your
Speaker 1: outside shoulder because a lot of times, like you said,
Speaker 1: they over commit and the outside shoulder inside demand.
Speaker 2: Now he spins out.
Speaker 1: Now you see, as long as my outside shoulder free,
Speaker 1: I could tackle you bingo.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so that's it. That's it. He'll he'll see.
Speaker 3: It will be much more difficult to be able to
Speaker 3: do some of those tricks that you did in college
Speaker 3: because these were out of control they over commit, they
Speaker 3: attacking the inside shoulder, you know, and all you got
Speaker 3: to once you spin back, it becomes a foot race
Speaker 3: and you running down the.
Speaker 2: Side, racing to the corner.
Speaker 1: Now I got my inside, I got my steal farm.
Speaker 1: Free to steal farm. You'll pick up yards. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that those are things that you know as you play
Speaker 1: at this at this level, you will learn a lot
Speaker 1: of the tricks of the trade. You'll know when to
Speaker 1: get down, when you can fight and struggle for extra yards.
Speaker 1: Because I'm telling you, those big guys and those lacks
Speaker 1: hurt when them three hundred pounds hit you. That's different
Speaker 1: than a dB tackle you. Now, Yeah, because he hitting,
Speaker 1: he putting helmet.
Speaker 2: On you, and we're.
Speaker 1: Putting three hundred pounds exactly so and on on defensive side.
Speaker 1: Like I said, he just had that one, that one
Speaker 1: play that I saw that he gave up leverage. But
Speaker 1: other than that, nothing you know, really made you the
Speaker 1: right home about I don't think it's going to be
Speaker 1: really hard to judge Ojo unless he gets significant snaps,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and they give him an
Speaker 1: opportunity and we see him, we see them like game
Speaker 1: plan to get him the football.
Speaker 2: It's hard. I mean he caught two passes nine yards.
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, I thought I thought, obviously the hype around
Speaker 3: Travis Hunter second sickon round, I mean second.
Speaker 2: Pick in the draft. I thought they were going to
Speaker 2: feature him a little bit.
Speaker 3: But obviously they allowed trepor Lawrence, they allowed the offense
Speaker 3: to flow. Whatever they gave him. They just they didn't
Speaker 3: feature him. Who first played the game Brian Talma Jr.
Speaker 3: Goddamn hits on the right side. Then I thought they
Speaker 3: would come to him at some point and just get
Speaker 3: him acclimated and then then get him going.
Speaker 2: But nah, now they just waited.
Speaker 3: When the opportunity to present himself, they threw in the
Speaker 3: ball and you know it was it was simple.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Me personally, I think he's going to spend more time
Speaker 1: on offense than defense. But hey, that that remains to
Speaker 1: be seen. But I do think you're probably get a
Speaker 1: lot more. You will see a lot more of Travis
Speaker 1: in what he's capable of doing once the season start.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to, you know, try to
Speaker 1: prove any point and make anything, you know, do anything,
Speaker 1: have him do anything spectacular in the postseason, because the
Speaker 1: thing is oh, Joe, I want to you know, you
Speaker 1: try to keep most of your stuff under wraps. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't want to show you too much in the
Speaker 1: preseason because these games don't mean anything. I'm just trying
Speaker 1: to get timing. I'm trying to get the guys, you know,
Speaker 1: get the guys in football shape, because.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Now with three games, you play the third game, Now
Speaker 1: you got it in the week, a week in.
Speaker 2: Between when you play again.
Speaker 1: It used to be, you know, we played that Thursday Friday,
Speaker 1: and guess what, we're playing the following Sunday.
Speaker 2: It's not like that anymore.
Speaker 1: So now you play, now you got another weekend between
Speaker 1: before you go play. And so I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: get the guys as conditioned as I possibly can, let
Speaker 1: them know what it's going to be expected, you know,
Speaker 1: the timing and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: But I think Travis fine.
Speaker 1: Like I said, eleven snaps, two receptions, nine eight snaps,
Speaker 1: zero targets. He got nineteen. He got nineteen, which is
Speaker 1: probably about what you would think if he was just
Speaker 1: a rookie playing on one side of the ball. That's
Speaker 1: probably what you thought he would get. Nineteen snaps.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited for him, man, But.
Speaker 1: The most outstanding thing in the game happened when Jaguars
Speaker 1: kicker Cam Little nailed a seventy yard field goal as
Speaker 1: the first half expired in Jacksonville's preseason open against the
Speaker 1: Steelers that would have broken the NFL record had it
Speaker 1: been the regular season. Justin Tucker kicked a sixty six
Speaker 1: yard field goal to beat the Lions September twenty sixth,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one at Ford Field. Now it's a lot different.
Speaker 1: It's a lot different kicking outside than it is inside
Speaker 1: because you got control conditions. You don't have to worry
Speaker 1: about win, you don't have to worry about rain, you
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about anything. That Feeld goal, that
Speaker 1: this gentleman kick looked like it had been good for
Speaker 1: him about seventy two because he boomed it.
Speaker 2: Yeah he did, he did. He boomed it. He boomed it. Look,
Speaker 2: I don't care. I know it's preceded done. Cal Well,
Speaker 2: you go.
Speaker 1: Out there, you go out there to the high school field,
Speaker 1: the kick and simply yard.
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, it's very difficult.
Speaker 3: I don't think people understand how far that is, even
Speaker 3: for those who are professionals. You have to understand being
Speaker 3: able to kick it from that far one. Most people
Speaker 3: do have the leg, but the problem is it's not
Speaker 3: it's not about having a leg and act. It's about
Speaker 3: having the accuracy to be able to kick from that
Speaker 3: far right. You have to understand the uprights have been
Speaker 3: have been changed. They're a lot more narrow than they
Speaker 3: used to be. Yes for the room for era, the
Speaker 3: room for error when kicking. You know, most of the
Speaker 3: time the ball depending on if you have the consistency yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 3: that you have to consistence and you follow through. You
Speaker 3: can't swing to the left or you can't leave your
Speaker 3: leg open and then it'll go wide right.
Speaker 4: You know, everything has to be perfect. That that that finished, that.
Speaker 1: Policy when you kicking it that far, Yeah, because if
Speaker 1: anything is off you kicking that far and ain't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you wait the time one way or the other.
Speaker 3: And the funny thing about it is most people, most
Speaker 3: people say it is the preseason. There's no pressure as
Speaker 3: well in this in this kick, there's no pressure. The
Speaker 3: circumstance that that you're in.
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's preseason. You know what, we're gonna
Speaker 2: allow you to kick?
Speaker 3: Will they allow me to kick from seventy maybe in
Speaker 3: a regular season game where it actually counts. Probably, Now,
Speaker 3: if you're thinking about it, if you do miss you
Speaker 3: got to understand the team is already in.
Speaker 2: Steelers didn't even put anybody back. That was my point.
Speaker 1: They didn't even put anybody back there, right right, So
Speaker 1: they're like, hey, don't even worry about it.
Speaker 2: And that's the thing. That is the thing.
Speaker 1: What you're saying is that they normally have a guy
Speaker 1: back there, and if you miss it, you got really
Speaker 1: only two guys maybe your wings.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that can tackle tackle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're normally linebackers are tight end, so those are
Speaker 1: really you only really got two guys that can tackle.
Speaker 1: You got offensive linemen mainly offensive lineman. Now you might
Speaker 1: have a defensive lineman on there, Ojo, but he ain't
Speaker 1: tackling his face.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: Now, you know the kick, what's the likelihood of the
Speaker 1: kick or the hold of getting somebody down Because we
Speaker 1: saw it on the kick six Auburn versus Alabama. We've
Speaker 1: seen Antonio Caramarti run those things back. We've seen Devin
Speaker 1: Hester run it back. I think OBJ ran one back
Speaker 1: in college. So when you put people in situations that
Speaker 1: they're not used to being in, which is offensive lineman
Speaker 1: having to tackle kickers and punters having to tackle, especially with.
Speaker 2: That kind of space.
Speaker 1: Now, if you get him hemmed up on the sideline,
Speaker 1: you could try to put him out of bounds. But
Speaker 1: that guy got a head of steam. And you know
Speaker 1: they're taught in lineman don't really know how to get
Speaker 1: lanes on yo, Cause you know they followed each other.
Speaker 1: They followed me right behind one another, bro spreading our
Speaker 1: ass out.
Speaker 2: We got lanes now that you have to get in.
Speaker 1: But that was I was like, and why not, like
Speaker 1: you said, oh Joe, why not try something like this? Okay,
Speaker 1: Now I got the confidence because if it's if it's
Speaker 1: a latent ball game, instead of trying to help Mary, hell,
Speaker 1: I might, I might let the kickers come out there
Speaker 1: and try it.
Speaker 4: Out there, either the tire game or the win a game.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: Actually, if we're an Endy or Houston, those are indoor arenas.
Speaker 2: And there's no factors from the outside elements.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yeah, so congratulat, congratulations. It does not count
Speaker 1: towards the record. But you know, you know, now I
Speaker 1: got the I got the leg. The coach knows you
Speaker 1: have the leg. Hey, you know you gotta think, oh Joe,
Speaker 1: that's a kickoff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, you kickoff and hold on, wait a minute, now,
Speaker 3: you do know your co hosts can kick just as far.
Speaker 2: Right now, you never kicked that far. Hold on, time out,
Speaker 2: time out, time out, time out.
Speaker 3: You know there's video, there's visual evidence, there's video evidence.
Speaker 3: I don't know, ash is there you have you have
Speaker 3: a great team of people that can pull things up.
Speaker 2: No she on vacation. Oh for real?
Speaker 3: As can you please show on me kicking from sixty
Speaker 3: sixty five yards please and having even more room to
Speaker 3: go once it goes through. I think I might have
Speaker 3: been with during this time. I might have been with
Speaker 3: Bleacher Report. We were doing something. It's online.
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about in the game. Now, if you kill
Speaker 1: I saw you make a pat in the game?
Speaker 3: Listen, is sixty five yards in the game and then
Speaker 3: or just just doing it, you know in hard practicing,
Speaker 3: it's still so.
Speaker 2: So so it got catched up.
Speaker 1: So got catching the ball in the Turkey Bowl to
Speaker 1: to save it's kicking the ball in the NFL hunt.
Speaker 2: Well, we're not talking about a guy.
Speaker 3: We're talking you're actually referring to an actual player who plays,
Speaker 3: you know, in the NFL, or played.
Speaker 2: Played right many many years ago.
Speaker 3: Right, but I still can mentally, I know what to do. Now,
Speaker 3: the body might not react the way it should.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I know what to do. I know
Speaker 2: how to run.
Speaker 1: I know how to like swing my arms and put
Speaker 1: one leg in front of the other. But doing it
Speaker 1: is something to get entirely different, entirely different.
Speaker 3: I was just trying to give you a small example
Speaker 3: that your codes can kick sixty five seventy yards as well.
Speaker 1: No, maybe once one time my co host can kick
Speaker 1: sixty five seven yards.
Speaker 3: You failed to realize. Gotta play soccer every weekend. I'm
Speaker 3: part of I'm part of a soccer league here in Miami.
Speaker 2: Out Let me make your question.
Speaker 1: You think you think messi leg speed is the same
Speaker 1: as it was, say, fifteen years ago.
Speaker 3: No, No, his speed easy, like being able to break
Speaker 3: out and get away from people.
Speaker 2: I said, his leg speed. Oh no, absolutely not. No, No,
Speaker 2: why not no? Because he's much older now. Oh okay,
Speaker 2: thank you very much. We can move along.
Speaker 1: Cam Ward NFL preseason debut tonight in Tampa. Five of
Speaker 1: eight completions, all completions coming on the second drive, sixty
Speaker 1: seven yards passing at eighty nine point one rating led
Speaker 1: his sixty five yard touchdown drive. Oh Joe, the little
Speaker 1: bit the limited action that you saw like what you.
Speaker 2: Saw, Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 3: The funny thing about it is, oh, you know what
Speaker 3: is these players are infer ready. Some rookies that I
Speaker 3: saw today are so poisoned the pocket most of the time.
Speaker 3: They get happy feet when pressure is put upon them.
Speaker 3: But they look like them and planned for ten plus years.
Speaker 3: They look like veterans. The pocket presence, the relaxedness under
Speaker 3: the rest. Cam Woard showed it. Jackson Dart showed it
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 2: Obviously we saw you.
Speaker 3: The door last night who also played with that same
Speaker 3: calmness and poors. And you can see the leadership qualities
Speaker 3: in the way they carry themselves as quarterbacks and cam
Speaker 3: small sample sized that we were able to see tonight,
Speaker 3: and he didn't play much, but you can tell. You
Speaker 3: can tell he's sharp, you can tell he's been coached well,
Speaker 3: not just here at the NFL level it was at
Speaker 3: now because it doesn't just happen that fast. It's not
Speaker 3: that fast of a turnaround to look that comfortable like
Speaker 3: you know what you're doing. So he was coached very
Speaker 3: well obviously when he was at UM and so it's
Speaker 3: carried over into the NFL. And I'm excited for Tennessee
Speaker 3: Titan fans, you know, and what they had with the
Speaker 3: number one pick. I just don't like the fact that
Speaker 3: he's been overshadowed since his pick because everyone else has
Speaker 3: been talked about. This is the least talked about number
Speaker 3: one pick. I think maybe whatever ever, uncle, you were
Speaker 3: number one pick, So it seemed like he's went under
Speaker 3: the radar. No one said anything about him when most
Speaker 3: of the pressure is on a number one.
Speaker 4: Pick to perform because you're going to good.
Speaker 2: That was the worst last year. Like you said, I
Speaker 2: can fly under the radar, right.
Speaker 1: The difference is now, Oho, these guys come in they've
Speaker 1: been coached by throwing coaches since they were in high school.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, there freshman.
Speaker 1: So they're not like the guys that came in twenty
Speaker 1: five years ago. They were just coming to the NFL
Speaker 1: and they're okay, Hey, you get you hire a coach
Speaker 1: right before you getting ready to go, you know, the
Speaker 1: up to the combine, and then you work wait them
Speaker 1: up until your pro day, and that's it. These guys
Speaker 1: have these guys all the time. It's just like basketball players.
Speaker 1: They got shooting coaches and they got trainers now in college,
Speaker 1: so they have an upper hand. That's why they're So
Speaker 1: when you find a guy that's ready, he's really ready
Speaker 1: to play. Yes, Yes, these receivers they work with guys.
Speaker 1: So when you find a guy that's ready, he's really
Speaker 1: really ready.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So guys are not coming in like you. I mean,
Speaker 1: like I came in. I mean, guy, you know time.
Speaker 1: I mean guys would go down there for like maybe
Speaker 1: six weeks that work with a speed coach. But these
Speaker 1: guys got professionals basically training them.
Speaker 2: Sometimes they have them in the high school o jo.
Speaker 1: So just imagine you going through the process and they
Speaker 1: give you any they're giving you pro style advice.
Speaker 3: Right, and you know what, I think that's why so
Speaker 3: many different quarterbacks obviously they look the part, but don't
Speaker 3: have all the other intangibles to be a starter. They
Speaker 3: looked a part, But cam Mood not only did he
Speaker 3: look the part, but he had everything else. He had
Speaker 3: all the other qualities that make him the number one pick. Obviously,
Speaker 3: should do it fall into the fifth round. Not only
Speaker 3: did he look the part, but he has all the
Speaker 3: other tangibles that made that made him a top pick
Speaker 3: despite him fall into the fifth round. Right, they polished,
Speaker 3: They're polished, that's all it is. You're who's been prepared
Speaker 3: for the NFL level, So you look the part once
Speaker 3: you're in a structured environment in a real live game. Yeah,
Speaker 3: God damn, how the hell are you dropping back? So
Speaker 3: goddamn calm. Everybody rushing trying to knock his head off,
Speaker 3: and he's sitting there chilling.
Speaker 4: Progression one two three, Okay, three is not there?
Speaker 2: Let me shoot back to one. That one ain't there.
Speaker 4: I mean to throw out of the bounds or on
Speaker 4: the tucket around.
Speaker 1: Hell, now you better not if you if you go
Speaker 1: one two three and try to go back to one,
Speaker 1: they're gonna hitt you. Put your put the help right
Speaker 1: up under your chain. You better take that check down. Yeah, hey,
Speaker 1: one two three, check down one two three, throw it
Speaker 1: out of bounds.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the other take off with it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh And I think, oh, Joe, I think that's what
Speaker 1: we're seeing. If you look at these quarterbacks. I mean,
Speaker 1: it used to be a quarterback throwing for twenty touchdowns
Speaker 1: in a season was like, oh gosh, he really did man,
Speaker 1: this guy throwing for twenty five thirty touchdowns? Yeah, easy,
Speaker 1: it's a look. And I understand the rules have a
Speaker 1: lot to do with that. The way they protect the quarterback,
Speaker 1: the way they protect the sever, the way they throw
Speaker 1: the football now is more conducive for quarterback having better stats.
Speaker 2: But I do think these guys are a little bit more.
Speaker 1: Advanced than when the older guys, the Montanas and the
Speaker 1: Lways and the Marinos when they came out. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying they're better, but they're coach more and so I
Speaker 1: don't know John, probably never.
Speaker 2: I don't know Danny or John. To be interesting, man.
Speaker 1: You had a pro coach, you have a Tom House,
Speaker 1: or you have a what's Carson Palmer's brother name?
Speaker 2: Oh Jordan Palmers? Real deal, you have a Did you
Speaker 2: have a Jordan Palmer? Did you have a George Whitfield?
Speaker 1: Did you have any of those guys to to help
Speaker 1: you all these quarterbacks, they have those offensive lineman, they're
Speaker 1: working out with offensive line coaches, they're working out with
Speaker 1: former great NFL linement. So they're a little bit more
Speaker 1: advanced than say the guys you know, even if you
Speaker 1: want to say ten years ago, fifteen years ago, definitely
Speaker 1: when you go start going back twenty thirty years ago,
Speaker 1: they're more advanced. Just like the guys are coming out
Speaker 1: in basketball. You see how even baseball, these guys you
Speaker 1: know fathers played and so they got you know, hitting coaches,
Speaker 1: they got pitching coaches. They're looking at biomechanics and they
Speaker 1: look at all It's.
Speaker 2: The funny thing about everything.
Speaker 3: You think about the time and the time change, and yeah,
Speaker 3: technology is advanced.
Speaker 4: And everything evolves.
Speaker 3: They have better resources, they got unlimited to get better
Speaker 3: at said position, whatever it may be, whatever they respect
Speaker 3: respective craft may be, to.
Speaker 4: Hone that skill set.
Speaker 3: So when they make it to the highest level right
Speaker 3: to part now, it's one thing to look the part everybody.
Speaker 3: I mean, the D factor can get you in the door,
Speaker 3: but you got to have all the other stuff that
Speaker 3: comes with it to excel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally, I totally agree.
Speaker 1: But I thought Calboard played really well, especially like second drive.
Speaker 1: You got the ball to Calvin Ridley, you know, really, hey,
Speaker 1: that's somebody he could lead lean heavily on because he's
Speaker 1: one of the premium route runners and he started to
Speaker 1: get you he started to look like Calvin Ridley again,
Speaker 1: because you remember that last year that he really played
Speaker 1: in Atlanta.
Speaker 2: He were cutting, he was doing it. He was really
Speaker 2: doing it.
Speaker 1: On the other side of the ball, Rookie Shiloh Sanders
Speaker 1: delivered multiple big hits, including one on Brandon Allen on
Speaker 1: the Blitz. First round draft pick Mecca Ibuka also showed
Speaker 1: off his physical attributes, leaping twenty one yard grab backup
Speaker 1: quarterback Kyle Trash. I mean, she doors played really well.
Speaker 1: I mean I've seen footage of him in camp. He
Speaker 1: did a great job of in the one on one
Speaker 1: team one on one period against the tight ends.
Speaker 2: Job, He's on it. He was on it.
Speaker 1: Because you have to understand he started out. He started
Speaker 1: out as a corner. Yeah, so he does have instinct.
Speaker 1: He started out as a corner and then moved to safety.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, but when yeah, yeah, I thought he
Speaker 1: played well. We know he's a thumper. He's looking to
Speaker 1: get looking, get downhill and put big hits on him. Now, yes, sir, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I thought he I think it's going to be interesting,
Speaker 1: O Joe. How many special teams can he play?
Speaker 2: Right? Because that's going to be the key. He's not
Speaker 2: a state now.
Speaker 1: He could be working his way until the starting lineup,
Speaker 1: but as a right now, I don't think he's a starter.
Speaker 2: So now what other ways can you contribute? Right here?
Speaker 3: He'll be on He'll be on special teams, whether it
Speaker 3: be field goal, whether it be we be kickoff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, put return. Can you can you be a jammer?
Speaker 1: Can you be a gunner?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Yeah, m hm. Can you be on the front line?
Speaker 1: Can you be an L one two, three, four five
Speaker 1: on the front line?
Speaker 2: Uh? You definitely gonna be on kickoff obviously.
Speaker 3: Is it me or does it seem like kickoff is
Speaker 3: is much more, much easier as as opposed to how
Speaker 3: it was during our day, you know where you had
Speaker 3: the wedge buster, you had the.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they don't.
Speaker 1: They don't really want those type of collisions, so they
Speaker 1: don't if you see, they're not letting you get that
Speaker 1: kind of running start all right, right, Yeah, it's different,
Speaker 1: it's not. It's I mean, I think Hester said he'd
Speaker 1: have probably more return touchdowns had they had it in
Speaker 1: like that, So it's interesting to see what would have happened.
Speaker 1: But the advancement, I don't I don't have a problem
Speaker 1: with it though, Joe, I mean sometimes like.
Speaker 2: I understanding, it's different. It's very different. It's very different.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: The guy that you really like in the first round
Speaker 1: the Bucks selected in Mecca a uh Booka. Uh, you
Speaker 1: you like him, you like McMillan Carolina.
Speaker 2: And they both look good.
Speaker 1: Like I think whether the Golden go in the first
Speaker 1: round or the second round for Green Bay, Matthew Golden,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Uh, McMillan, I.
Speaker 2: Think go to winning the second round. Ran for the
Speaker 2: first number twenty three.
Speaker 1: Then they had Jade Higgins win the second round, Luther
Speaker 1: Burton the third win the second round, Trey Harris went
Speaker 1: in the second round, and Jack Beach wit the second round.
Speaker 1: So they were in the first two rounds. There were
Speaker 1: seven receivers that went in the first the first two rounds. Yeah,
Speaker 1: who do who do you expect to have the biggest impact?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: Probably honestly out of everyone you just named, I know,
Speaker 3: matt Matthew Golden is good.
Speaker 2: He's phenomenal.
Speaker 3: Obviously they do have Dubbs, they have Jaydane Reid, so
Speaker 3: I don't think he will get the number of targets
Speaker 3: necessary to be able to showcase reed Dobbs Washington.
Speaker 2: It's it's so many of them over there. I think
Speaker 2: he will he will contribute.
Speaker 3: But I really believe T mac McMillan over there with
Speaker 3: the panther, you know, and with with what he's able
Speaker 3: to do, and the show very small sample size. Honestly,
Speaker 3: it's been one preseas game. But again I've been high
Speaker 3: on the pants. I think T is going to be
Speaker 3: the one to show showcase his ability and what he
Speaker 3: can do is a mismatch every time they leave in
Speaker 3: one on one. He's very tall, he can run after
Speaker 3: the catch and the fifty fifty ball turn.
Speaker 2: Into eighty twenty when it is him.
Speaker 3: So I'm excited for him. He's the one I'm highest
Speaker 3: on and hoping that not just him, but collectively as
Speaker 3: a group offensively as a receiving corps. I think they
Speaker 3: make the difference in Bryce Young taking the next step
Speaker 3: in his career.
Speaker 1: I agree, I think him. I like uh Ibuka also
Speaker 1: for the simple fact how healthy. It's what God would
Speaker 1: be his return right right is he only is he
Speaker 1: gonna I don't think he's gonna pup, But so it's
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to see how he used you know,
Speaker 1: we know Baker can throw it. Hey, you got missed
Speaker 1: consistency on one side. Evans Mike Evans and then so
Speaker 1: Booker could really have a huge year. But I but
Speaker 1: I but I like mc millan also, long angular guy.
Speaker 1: What he's like six three six four, make tough contested catches.
Speaker 1: He's good run after the catch. Yeah, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I think these good. I think Matthew Golden, I mean
Speaker 1: you look you Okay, Romeo Dobbs, you mentioned Kristin Watson.
Speaker 2: You meant Reid.
Speaker 1: They got they got a lot of receivers. They don't
Speaker 1: really have a guy that like, Okay, this is the
Speaker 1: guy that you gotta worry about. You kind of got
Speaker 1: to worry about them all because at in a given moment,
Speaker 1: because you know it might be Dobbs weeks one week
Speaker 1: and that it'll be Christian Watson.
Speaker 2: Watson's biggest thing is staying healthy. Yeah he he canna
Speaker 2: put him up and put him down, pick him up
Speaker 2: him now quietly.
Speaker 3: The goddamn damn Packer's got a four about one team.
Speaker 3: Uh m h Yeah, they got a four about one team. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Dove Watson, Reid can fly, Dobbs, Golden can fly.
Speaker 2: Man stop playing.
Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, I think McMillan and Abuka would have the
Speaker 1: biggest but I'm not going to sleep on you know,
Speaker 1: Luther Burton, A lot of people thought he'd be a
Speaker 1: first round draft pick receive out of Missouri. He goes,
Speaker 1: he goes to the Bears. They got DJ Moore, they
Speaker 1: got Roma Doomsay. Uh, they drafted a tight end in
Speaker 1: the first round. They still have Cole Comet upgrading their
Speaker 1: offensive line.
Speaker 2: They should be and they got.
Speaker 1: Detroit so old offensive coordinator as the head coach calling the.
Speaker 2: Players called him creativity.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they should definitely be better offensively. And if
Speaker 1: they are better offensively, well big number because if you
Speaker 1: look at Detroit, you look at Jamison Williams had had
Speaker 1: a phenomenal season. You look at armand Ross Saint Brown, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: had a big season.
Speaker 2: You know what's funny is Almond Ross Saint Brown.
Speaker 3: He's one of the top five receivers depending on how
Speaker 3: you put him in the left order in the NFL.
Speaker 2: Well, I really think it.
Speaker 3: Didn't matter who was calling the goddamn plays because he's
Speaker 3: so good at just route running in general, he's a
Speaker 3: polished one. You know, I don't have to scheme you open.
Speaker 3: He's one of those where officer coordinators in your head, coach,
Speaker 3: you know what, I could sleep at night.
Speaker 2: Because I ain't got to worry about that one. It
Speaker 2: don't matter who we plan. I don't have to worry
Speaker 2: about him. I know what he can do.
Speaker 3: So you add what he can do in his skill setting,
Speaker 3: his DNA, and then you put that with the creativity
Speaker 3: that Ben Johnson has.
Speaker 2: Yes, get what you saw last last year. You get magic.
Speaker 2: You get magic.
Speaker 3: And I don't know if there's anyone like that, but
Speaker 3: that type of skill set similar to a Mom Ross
Speaker 3: Saint Brown on the Bears.
Speaker 4: But DJ Moore is damn good. He's not that far behind.
Speaker 2: He doesn't have that short area of quickness like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: That's not what he is. He's can you play this lot? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's an outside the number He and Roman Dunes is
Speaker 1: outside the number type of guys.
Speaker 2: So you're gonna be all right.
Speaker 3: The good thing about it is is Ben Johnson is
Speaker 3: going to understand and know his player of strengths and
Speaker 3: put them in position to be able to make those
Speaker 3: plays and not allow them to be exposed in whatever
Speaker 3: that we can see is that we can't see watching
Speaker 3: from home.
Speaker 2: We don't know it. They know it, right.
Speaker 1: Jackson dark shining in his NFL debut twelve of nineteen,
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty four passing yards, one touchdowns, zero interception.
Speaker 2: He led three scoring drives.
Speaker 1: The TV came on a twenty nine yard strike down
Speaker 1: the left side line to Lil Jordan Humphrey with pressure
Speaker 1: in his face. He also rushed three times for twenty
Speaker 1: four yards. Old, Joe, you like what you saw?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Shoot, listen, we wasn't even know Jackson Dart and
Speaker 3: now started to show off. But how good he looked
Speaker 3: and being in season ready, being polished, you know, look
Speaker 3: really good in the look really good in the.
Speaker 2: He wasn't ratic most of the time.
Speaker 3: You get rookie quarterbacks in an environment like that in
Speaker 3: a game, and everybody got happy feed.
Speaker 2: Everybody got happy feed.
Speaker 3: They look, they look at the first read, the first
Speaker 3: rding in there, they take it off and they're gone.
Speaker 3: But no, he did everything. He did everything the right way.
Speaker 3: You can tell he's another one who's been coached up
Speaker 3: and was ready.
Speaker 2: For the moment.
Speaker 3: The moment wasn't too big for him, even though it's
Speaker 3: just the preseason. So it's like going on your first date.
Speaker 3: The first thing you want to do in your first
Speaker 3: eight is you want to be impressionable. You want to
Speaker 3: do everything possible to do all the right things.
Speaker 2: You want to open the door. You want to let
Speaker 2: her order curse. Huh.
Speaker 3: He did, He did every He did everything right. Shoots,
Speaker 3: as did Camboard And obviously we saw your door. Who
Speaker 3: had a bigger plate to be able to show what
Speaker 3: he can do. Hell he didn't got he got the
Speaker 3: third base in the first night.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. And he played. I mean you get all
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks played.
Speaker 1: Rush was six and seven, James was seven of eleven,
Speaker 1: sixty two yards touchdown, Tommy Devido ten or fourteen seventy
Speaker 1: three yards a touchdown, Jackson Dart twelve of nineteen, one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty four yards and a touchdown, thirty five
Speaker 1: and fifty one three seventeen three touchdowns. So clearly they
Speaker 1: had a plan. They were going to throw the football.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, they were going to throw the football.
Speaker 1: Absolutely yeah. And I thought, I thought, I thought the
Speaker 1: guys played really really well. Jackson Dart threw the ball well.
Speaker 1: Little Jordan Humphrey been in the league for a while,
Speaker 1: so had some a consistent player outside to.
Speaker 2: Catch the ball for him.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Jackson Dart looked, he looked extremely well. You know,
Speaker 1: he's went the old miss playing Kiffin laying Yep, great
Speaker 1: offense in mind the quarterbacks does a great job coaching quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: So maybe I'm not as I'm not surprised that he
Speaker 1: played so well given who he totally under.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And the funny thing about it is,
Speaker 2: I believe.
Speaker 3: Russell's going to be starter. Russell Wilson's going to be
Speaker 3: the starter for the New York Giants, I can tell
Speaker 3: you that. But they wanted to see what Jackson Dart
Speaker 3: would look like once the keys had turned over to him. Now,
Speaker 3: it could be this season if things aren't going well
Speaker 3: for the Giants offensively, But Russell Wilson will be the
Speaker 3: starter for the New York Giants for the foreseeable future.
Speaker 3: Unless things aren't going well offensively, well.
Speaker 2: I'll see about the start. I don't know if he's
Speaker 2: going to be the finisher.
Speaker 3: But listen, there's a chance he stays the finisher because
Speaker 3: of what he has around it.
Speaker 4: You get that ball, you get that ball to the
Speaker 4: other who knows, Yeah, you put.
Speaker 2: Him in positions to make plays for you. It makes
Speaker 2: your job a lot easier.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but you're all bad.
Speaker 3: Hey, somebody in the chat making fun of me uncle
Speaker 3: with that. They talked about that I got the same
Speaker 3: thing I had on last night on last night's show.
Speaker 2: Well, actually I do.
Speaker 1: I ain't taking a showers, but I mean, look, are
Speaker 1: you gonna keep Are you gonna keep two veteran quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in the rookie.
Speaker 3: Yes, Jameis Winston is not the one. He's great, great, great.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. You're
Speaker 1: gonna keep two veteran quarterbacks. You know what you're playing, Russ.
Speaker 1: You're probably playing James. What are you playing? Jamis five
Speaker 1: to seven million? And you know Jackson Dart's not going anywhere.
Speaker 3: No, but you keep, you keep, Russ, I mean, you
Speaker 3: keep Jameis Winston in great locker room presence, a great
Speaker 3: presence for the team in general. He's just good for
Speaker 3: the locker room in general, and just if it comes
Speaker 3: down to emergency situations, we understand that James, James can
Speaker 3: go in there and have some fun, not only have
Speaker 3: some fun, but be consistent kind of turnover prone depending
Speaker 3: on how long he's in there at the position, but
Speaker 3: outside of that he can make plays as well.
Speaker 1: But because that's a tough divisional Joe, oh, very very,
Speaker 1: I mean you got the Eagles, you got to what
Speaker 1: the commanders? You got the Cowboys. I mean, people say
Speaker 1: the Cowboys is gonna be better? How much better? I
Speaker 1: don't know. We think the Eagles are still the cream
Speaker 1: of the of that division based on what they did
Speaker 1: last year, what they brought back. Yeah, listen, very, Washington commanders,
Speaker 1: we expect, we expect Jade and Daniels not to have
Speaker 1: a sophomore slump.
Speaker 2: Now they do have someone that's disgruntled.
Speaker 3: Okay, McClory, I was gonna say, I was gonna say, listen,
Speaker 3: having your number, having your number one target, having your
Speaker 3: security blanket paid and happy would help prevent having a
Speaker 3: sophomore slump. But hey, maybe they know what they're doing
Speaker 3: over there in Washington. But there is no room for error,
Speaker 3: There is no room for era in the NFC East.
Speaker 2: When it comes to quarterback play.
Speaker 3: You got to be consulted weekend and week out because
Speaker 3: everyone else is so good, everyone else got so much better. Hell,
Speaker 3: the Eagles coming off a goddamn Super Bowl win. You
Speaker 3: think they don't want to go back. They didn't do
Speaker 3: anything but improve as well.
Speaker 1: YEP, I agree, So Jackson Dark, say Sudre Cuche Bro.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Brian dave Ball on what he thought of Jackson Dark's performance,
Speaker 1: It's about what I thought it would be. Efficient, effective, aggressive,
Speaker 1: confidence in the pocket. Still stuff can work on, but
Speaker 1: he's doing good. Brian dave Ball is a great coach.
Speaker 1: I mean, I like his offensive mind. I don't you know,
Speaker 1: there remains to be seen offense as a head coach,
Speaker 1: but we saw him in Alabama. Now, he didn't have
Speaker 1: the great success at Cleveland, but hey, I ain't a
Speaker 1: whole lot of outside of a Paul Brown. There hadn't
Speaker 1: been a whole lot of coaches that had success in Cleveland. Well,
Speaker 1: Marty had some success. He got the AFC Championships a
Speaker 1: couple of times with the Brown Sam Retigliano.
Speaker 2: That was before your time in the early eighties.
Speaker 1: But Brian Dayball's offensive mind, I mean, he was the
Speaker 1: guy that really got Josh Allen on track. Now then
Speaker 1: people because proud of him getting there, people like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, the jury is still out on.
Speaker 2: Josh. And then Brian day ball comes there.
Speaker 1: And not only he was so good, he parlayed that
Speaker 1: into a head coaching job for himself. Yeah yeah, and
Speaker 1: so uh yeah. He said he was efficient, he was effective.
Speaker 1: He was aggressive of the confident things that you like
Speaker 1: for the quarterback. You like for it to be officiing,
Speaker 1: you like for it to be effective. You like for
Speaker 1: him to be aggressive. Don't be a dunking and dunket
Speaker 1: it on here because you're scared to throw the ball.
Speaker 2: Non throw the ball down the field.
Speaker 3: It was it was third down. It was third down,
Speaker 3: and he took the three by one side, the three
Speaker 3: by one side. He take the deep ball instead of
Speaker 3: throw instead of throw a short for the first down.
Speaker 3: See he said that third is third or whatever. Hell
Speaker 3: he went deep touchdown.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's when you're not afraid. You're not worried
Speaker 1: about your completion percentage, You're not worried about your quarterback
Speaker 1: for rating, you're not worried about your QBR right, just
Speaker 1: score points by pushing the ball down.
Speaker 2: Down the field. Yeah. JJ.
Speaker 1: McCarthy said he was emotional in his first game in
Speaker 1: three hundred and sixty four days. McCarthy said there was
Speaker 1: a little tear drop during the national anthem before he
Speaker 1: took the field for the first time since a torm
Speaker 1: and niscus in his right knee that ended his rookie season.
Speaker 2: It was just the.
Speaker 1: Journey that any injured player goes on to get back
Speaker 1: out there and doing the things that they love.
Speaker 2: It just shows how much I care for this game.
Speaker 1: He completed his first three passes, all to wide out
Speaker 1: wide receiver Jordan Addison, and led the Vikums to a
Speaker 1: field goal on their opening drive before Kevin O'Connell pulled him.
Speaker 1: McCarthy four of seven completion. He was four completions of
Speaker 1: seven attempts thirty yards. He also converted a fourth down
Speaker 1: with an eight yard run. Oh, Joe, did you like
Speaker 1: what you see from JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. I
Speaker 2: was kind of I was kind of nervous for him.
Speaker 2: I was kind of nervous for him.
Speaker 3: I wanted to be able to I wanted him to
Speaker 3: be able to get through a clean game. No mishaps,
Speaker 3: no mistakes are going to happen, but the things that
Speaker 3: we were not going to be able to see, but
Speaker 3: looked like he handled it. He handled the offense very
Speaker 3: very well. I would have liked to see Justin Jefferson
Speaker 3: out there. Obviously he's I think he's nursing something, trying
Speaker 3: to make sure he didn't have any mishaps or sup
Speaker 3: ups either with whatever injury is bothering him. But JJ
Speaker 3: looked good, Jajy looked good, looked like he looked like
Speaker 3: the quarterback of the future Addison. Everyone else around him
Speaker 3: look good as well. So I don't see any problems.
Speaker 3: I don't see them missing the beat offensively as long
Speaker 3: as JJ does.
Speaker 2: Exactly what we're supposed to.
Speaker 3: Hell if Sam Donald could do it but what he
Speaker 3: had last year right, and JJ McCarthy can do it
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 1: Sam Howe came in and was eleven or thirteen fo
Speaker 1: one hundred and five yards o't Joe Brett Ripping was
Speaker 1: one for four. But the guy that we wanted to see,
Speaker 1: like you said, he tore up in Niscaus last year
Speaker 1: and he missed his entire rookie season. So to see
Speaker 1: him get back out there today and he says it's emotional,
Speaker 1: and that's that is that's true. The more the more
Speaker 1: you care about something, the more it hurts when you
Speaker 1: don't have it or you can't do it right.
Speaker 2: So it's.
Speaker 1: It was great to see him out there because they're
Speaker 1: lost the expectations.
Speaker 2: They're there. You know, they're in a good division.
Speaker 1: Look at I mean last year they went fourteen and
Speaker 1: three and they started on the road because the fifteen
Speaker 1: and two Detroit Lions. Yeah, we think Chicago is going
Speaker 1: to be better. We think green Bay is going to
Speaker 1: be better the Bear excuse me, Detroit. I mean, we
Speaker 1: don't think they're going to take a step back.
Speaker 2: They do get Hutch back, yay, miss the motor.
Speaker 1: So yeah, but I thought JJ McCarthy played well, you know,
Speaker 1: it's really you don't want to say he's a rookie,
Speaker 1: but theoretically is because he didn't really really get anything
Speaker 1: done last year because as soon as he you know,
Speaker 1: I think he got hurt in practice.
Speaker 2: You know who?
Speaker 3: You know who I didn't see when we were talking
Speaker 3: about the Giants game. Yeah, but did brother abdu card
Speaker 3: to play today? You probably had limited snaps.
Speaker 1: Huh if he played at all. I mean, we can
Speaker 1: go back and see if I can find him on the.
Speaker 2: On the.
Speaker 1: He played, actually he did play okay, okay, but you know,
Speaker 1: as a D lineman.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a rhythm. Man.
Speaker 1: You just can't go out there the first player gets
Speaker 1: a sack, man, you gotta be. You gotta you know,
Speaker 1: you gotta set the guy up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta be. You know.
Speaker 1: Now unless you did that like that? Uh that jedr
Speaker 1: defensive lineman number seventy eight. Well he made the game.
Speaker 1: He made the team tonight.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Two sacks, fum fumber recovery for a touchdown pressure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he on the team. Yeah, yeah, yeah, hey, he's like, yes, sir.
Speaker 1: He had snick. He had six snaps. Abdual Card has
Speaker 1: six snaps in the preseason debut. Three snaps were rushing
Speaker 1: the passer. All three rushings resulted in the pressure and
Speaker 1: the hurry per PFF and next Gen stats. So he
Speaker 1: did what he was supposed to do. He flashed. But
Speaker 1: like I said, I think the thing is with d Limany,
Speaker 1: they working on stuff. D liman are basically like a
Speaker 1: wide receiver because he's setting you up for something that
Speaker 1: he's gonna use at a later day and time. So if
Speaker 1: you think the move that you see that he starts
Speaker 1: the game with is the move that he's gonna finish
Speaker 1: the game with, you're sadly mistaken. It's just like a
Speaker 1: wide receiver. If you think that ride I ran on
Speaker 1: you to start the game, it's going to be the
Speaker 1: one I finished on you. You said I'm gonna give you,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you the illusion, and that's what I'm
Speaker 1: ging it's going to be that. Yeah, But it's not
Speaker 1: gonna be that. Yeah. And Justin Field's preseason debut against
Speaker 1: the Packers, Field was ultra efficient. He was three or
Speaker 1: four passing forty two yards, ran the ball twice for
Speaker 1: fourteen yards, and didn't take a single sack. Feels orchestrated
Speaker 1: a sharp opening drive against the Packers starting defense, Kappa
Speaker 1: get off with a thirteen yard rushing touchdown. This set
Speaker 1: the tone for the excellent preseason open for Aaron Glenn's squad.
Speaker 1: Does Field remaining calm composed in the control pocket? What
Speaker 1: do you think, O Joe? Do you think did you
Speaker 1: like what you saw from him tonight?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 3: Listen, we saw we saw flashes of brilliance when he
Speaker 3: was with the Bears. We saw flashes of what he
Speaker 3: can do when he's with the Pittsburgh Steelers. So what
Speaker 3: we saw tonight is what we expected from fields. It's
Speaker 3: all about him just being consistent and being able to
Speaker 3: do it week week two week.
Speaker 2: He's always wanted us to be a starting quarterback.
Speaker 3: I think he wasn't dealt a fair deal in Chicago
Speaker 3: because when you look at the Chicago Bears in that
Speaker 3: organization and the way they conducted and handle quarterbacks throughout
Speaker 3: the years, it hasn't been great at all.
Speaker 2: It hasn't been great at all.
Speaker 3: It just hasn't. Now things are a little different. Got
Speaker 3: Ben Johnson or Kata Williams. Things are different the way
Speaker 3: they're running the system. Obviously, in Pittsburgh, russ was promised
Speaker 3: the starting job Ruskins Hurst. Justin Field comes in, he
Speaker 3: plays phenomenal, He plays phenomenal. But obviously, once Russki is healthy, Russe,
Speaker 3: I mean justin Field is bench.
Speaker 2: Boom damn it. Can I just get opportunity?
Speaker 3: Can I get an opportunity to shine and show what
Speaker 3: I can do at the quarterback position. I can be
Speaker 3: quarterback number one if you put me in a situation
Speaker 3: that is advantageous for me at my skill set. Now
Speaker 3: that in New York with a players coach that played
Speaker 3: the game and understands exactly what you can and can
Speaker 3: do and can it do what he needs to do
Speaker 3: to make sure you're successful. You got Garrett Wilson. I
Speaker 3: don't know who, and I can't remember his last name.
Speaker 3: I meant to write it down. I don't know if
Speaker 3: it was a fullback that kept making those plays tonight
Speaker 3: or tight end. I think he wore forty seven. I
Speaker 3: think it was wearing forty seven. Hey, young bull popped
Speaker 3: out on film. He popped out on film to the
Speaker 3: point where, well, I don't know who this is, but
Speaker 3: I guarantee you he's gonna have a starting job.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was a fullback or a
Speaker 2: tight end, but he was balling.
Speaker 1: Just had four hundred and three yards total yards. Green
Speaker 1: Bay had two turnovers. Time of possession was thirty eight
Speaker 1: forty one, Jets twenty one to nineteen. First down was
Speaker 1: twenty one to twelve in favor of the Jets. Like
Speaker 1: I said, I think his name is Jay too Fairley.
Speaker 1: He made a team tonight.
Speaker 2: He did two sacks. Yeah, and he had a fumble
Speaker 2: recovery for a touchdown. Yeah, you're gonna be all right, But.
Speaker 1: I think that's that's the key for him. The Jets
Speaker 1: showed that showed justin Fields that they wanted it. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: they gave a two year deal. They put him in.
Speaker 1: He's the starter. They do have ty Rod to be
Speaker 1: his backup. But that's what he wanted. That's why he
Speaker 1: didn't go back to Pittsburgh. He said, now y'all already
Speaker 1: showed me what y'all want. Y'all already did me. How
Speaker 1: y'all gonna do. Listen, you're not gonna do me dirty twice?
Speaker 2: No, absolutely, listen.
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh is the situation where there's a young lady that
Speaker 4: wants you.
Speaker 3: She wants you, she doesn't want nobody else to have you,
Speaker 3: so she puts you in the friend zone until the
Speaker 3: dude she really won't get his act together.
Speaker 2: Okay, now I'm gonna put you off on the bench.
Speaker 2: Now I'm gonna go deal with Russ. That's whatever.
Speaker 3: That's the situation last year, right, So listen, you get smart.
Speaker 3: That ain't the situation. That's ideal for me, and where
Speaker 3: I want to go. New York is perfect for him.
Speaker 3: He got somebody that actually wants him. When you have
Speaker 3: somebody that actually wants you, you're able to play freely understanding.
Speaker 2: Okay, they have to look over my shoulder.
Speaker 3: I don't have the pressure of having to do everything
Speaker 3: perfect and do everything right.
Speaker 2: I can just play football, That's the thing.
Speaker 1: And I think ag you know they moved on from
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers basically for Justin Fields.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he made it easy for him Rogers, Yeah,
Speaker 3: he made it easy. No, you have someone like ag
Speaker 3: ag Ain't playing with that. I'm not sure if I'm ready.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm buying in. I don't know
Speaker 3: if I'm be there for training camp. I don't know
Speaker 3: if I want to take it down. Ag Ain't got
Speaker 3: time for that. I'm trying to change the entire culture.
Speaker 3: I need players that are boarding. Whether you've been playing
Speaker 3: five years or we've been playing twenty. I need you
Speaker 3: on the same page to me and hej he just wasn't.
Speaker 1: Only if you're a relative. Do you have tolerance for
Speaker 1: BS as a person age, Yes, sir, Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: you you a if that person not related to you
Speaker 1: know people like yeah, man, you know old people and
Speaker 1: you know, look at this juncture, ag coming in as
Speaker 1: a new coach, he needs everybody to be bought in. Yes,
Speaker 1: Aaron being as great as he is and being who
Speaker 1: he is he can easily sway a locker room. So
Speaker 1: I think for AG to looking at it, like for
Speaker 1: me to make sure I still have control of this
Speaker 1: locker room. Let's just move on, because I'm not so
Speaker 1: sure if Aeron dip would there was something that did
Speaker 1: AG want to hear Aaron say something? Unless Aaron came
Speaker 1: with that thing, turning back flips like yes, sir, let's
Speaker 1: let's go a g I'm ready right, unless he got that,
Speaker 1: they probably was gonna move on anyway, Oh Joe, they
Speaker 1: probably gonna move on. Yeah yeah, and uh, but hopefully
Speaker 1: Justin can seize this opportunity because this is a perfect opportunity.
Speaker 1: This might be the best opportunity because you know, when
Speaker 1: he went to Chicago, you knew he was gonna be
Speaker 1: the starter.
Speaker 2: They just didn't have the pieces around him. And I
Speaker 2: don't know if that.
Speaker 1: System was conducive and the coach was conducive. Now he
Speaker 1: has another defensive minded head coach, but I think AG
Speaker 1: has has an offensive guy that can put Justin Field's
Speaker 1: in position to be successful.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and listen, you would do.
Speaker 3: Let's let's understand what Justin Field has at his disposal
Speaker 3: over there with the Jets. Well you got breist Hall,
Speaker 3: you got brother. Uh but Alan, Alan who looks like
Speaker 3: who looks like a Derrick Henry who looks the part?
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not saying he's der Derrick Henry. I'm
Speaker 3: just saying they have a one two punch of the
Speaker 3: running back position. We have one of top ten receivers
Speaker 3: in the NFL depending on where you slay the Matt,
Speaker 3: depending on where you want him. Matt and Garrett Wilson. Well, goddamn,
Speaker 3: who's the number two? I don't know who they damn
Speaker 3: a chat who's the number two at receiver man with
Speaker 3: the Jets?
Speaker 2: It's slipping my mind? Damn you think I mean he look.
Speaker 1: Uh? Alan Lazar still there? Alan, Josh Renolds, Josh Reynolds.
Speaker 1: You remember Josh Renolds. I think he played for the
Speaker 1: He played for the Rams. I think he was in
Speaker 1: like Tennessee. So was he in uh or was he away?
Speaker 2: Is he in uh?
Speaker 6: Detroit? I'm almost certain he was with the Rams. So
Speaker 6: hold on Lard and Josh Reynolds. So that's the that's
Speaker 6: the two and the three.
Speaker 1: Gary was Yeah, he's trying to find out. We know,
Speaker 1: Gary Wilson that were trying to find the other receivers.
Speaker 1: But that is Josh Runner that he's with the Rams.
Speaker 1: I think he's with Tennessee or.
Speaker 2: Or was it a liars? Okay, yeah, he with the Broncos.
Speaker 2: You like a You think Ag is the right fit
Speaker 2: for the Jets' Joe Oh?
Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely. Listen, you need a player like that that
Speaker 3: can deal with that media. Forget in the house, forget
Speaker 3: the football stuff. Give me somebody with a mindset and
Speaker 3: the mentality that can deal with all the bullshit and
Speaker 3: the stereotypes that come along with being the head coach
Speaker 3: in the market of that magnitude. Want to get something
Speaker 3: that's ready for that. Okay, Now I can work on
Speaker 3: everything else. I can work from the top on down.
Speaker 3: And Ag is the right player for that.
Speaker 2: And he played in New York, so he definitely understands it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but hey, listen, one thing about it. Even though
Speaker 3: he played in New York. You understand how those newspapers are.
Speaker 3: You ain't getting no cut either. We ain't give me
Speaker 3: your no break either. But the things ain't going right.
Speaker 2: We're gonna hop on YouTube, yep.
Speaker 3: But hey, the newspaper, the newspaper outlets and media outlets
Speaker 3: are ruthless and I don't know who creates some of
Speaker 3: the headlines sometimes, Boy.
Speaker 2: They so creative. Definitely, they say, if you can make
Speaker 2: it in New York, you can make it anywhere anywhere,
Speaker 2: make it anywhere.
Speaker 3: Hey, just sitting here talking about all this quarterback play man,
Speaker 3: it just reminded me of my day man at beachid Man.
Speaker 2: Remind me of my days at beachid Man. You know,
Speaker 2: I was one of the best in the state. Huh huh.
Speaker 2: Give me. I wanted the best. You want the best
Speaker 2: delivered the city. No, no, no, no, in the state
Speaker 2: I'm talking about in the world. I was one of
Speaker 2: the best in the world. I remember.
Speaker 3: You know, it's funny to yeah, hey, for me to
Speaker 3: have played quarterback at Mimmy be Senior High in nineteen
Speaker 3: ninety six. I still remember my receivers, my number one
Speaker 3: and my number two, Dwight Ster and Richard lucell my lit.
Speaker 4: That's my little Zoue, Dwight Dwister. I mean, Dwight was
Speaker 4: my homeboy.
Speaker 2: Joe as he was good. Oh Joe, huh.
Speaker 1: You think Joe Montowna could tell you who is what
Speaker 1: I receivers were in college or in high school.
Speaker 3: Probably you only had two or three? Oh Joe, damn,
Speaker 3: we probably can't. But see my my my two. Dwight
Speaker 3: stir for Richard Lucelle. That's my Zoe. Richard lu said,
Speaker 3: that's my zoeop, I say, Richard, if you see this,
Speaker 3: you know, hey, we was at that doing work.
Speaker 2: Hey, listen.
Speaker 3: My running back was Tobo Wilson. Oh my goodness, boy,
Speaker 3: Toby he was. You should have saw me out there.
Speaker 1: Okay, named the offensive line, name your five offices.
Speaker 2: Live and at Oregons at Oregon State. At Oregon State. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I played receiver. I don't know exact exactly, that's my point. Hey,
Speaker 2: I was running the office like this, blue Eddy Blue. Hey, Mike,
Speaker 2: you're hot. You're hot. You get too you get too off, Mike,
Speaker 2: you hot? Boy? Yeah, Chad, he ain't say none of that.
Speaker 4: Alert alert alert alert alert alert alert.
Speaker 2: And then I go to the gunt, do none of that.
Speaker 4: Hey, Hey, well I used to be he I used
Speaker 4: to be killing that thing.
Speaker 3: A quarterback. I had had on the number two too.
Speaker 3: And you got to remember, remember I was the baby
Speaker 3: when I was a freshman. These starts with the quarterback.
Speaker 3: SA Mari Rolle was a receiver Terry Cousins was playing
Speaker 3: running back. So you got to you gotta understand, y'all
Speaker 3: won seven games.
Speaker 2: No, we was good.
Speaker 3: Now, hey, you got to understand who We played seven
Speaker 3: games and we played against some good competition.
Speaker 2: Now what damn?
Speaker 3: But hey, Miami Northwestern, Miami Central Edison High School.
Speaker 2: Them boy was stacked back then.
Speaker 1: I ain't hear none of them players. I ain't hear
Speaker 1: none of them name. But y'all name all the guys
Speaker 1: that you played in the NFL.
Speaker 2: Yeah they did.
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just telling the quality that my school had.
Speaker 3: We had good quality.
Speaker 1: So what happened to the Winds? Tell me the quality wins?
Speaker 1: I know y'all had quality players. What about the quality wins?
Speaker 3: Had some quality wins. Now, I just don't remember the
Speaker 3: records from back then. That's a very long time ago.
Speaker 1: You know, your record were y'all fourteen and one, fifteen
Speaker 1: and Old thirteen to two. Obviously, No, y'all lost in
Speaker 1: the state championship. Y'all lost in the semifinals quarterfinals.
Speaker 2: Damn, I can't remember, but I did score. What I
Speaker 2: can tell you is I scored four touchdowns in one game.
Speaker 3: And nobody, nobody's done that. Nobody scored four touchdowns in
Speaker 3: one game.
Speaker 2: Did y'all win that game? Yes?
Speaker 3: Yes, matter of fact, we almost beat Miami Northwestern the
Speaker 3: year they won state.
Speaker 2: One of the greatest, one of the greatest high school receivers.
Speaker 3: I saw with my own eyes, Marvin Snoop Minis out
Speaker 3: of the Scott Projects that played for Florida State, played
Speaker 3: with Kansas City for a little bit before you got hurt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never seen nothing like Snoop Minutes boring high school.
Speaker 1: Uh oh my oh yo. Yeah, what am I supposed
Speaker 1: to do? We all wist beat the team that won
Speaker 1: the state? What am I supposed to do it?
Speaker 2: I know, I'm just I'm just trying to I'm just
Speaker 2: trying to relive my story of high school. That's all.
Speaker 2: I'm just sharing that story.
Speaker 3: Since we're talking football, it's taking me down memory lane.
Speaker 3: Can we talk about the young bulls that's going into
Speaker 3: the NFL, that got an opportunity to start at the
Speaker 3: highest level and it just brought me back to where
Speaker 3: it all started.
Speaker 2: That's all. I'm just sharing my feelings in my story.
Speaker 2: That's all. My bad man, man, it sucks. It sucks
Speaker 2: being you. Oh you it sucks being old. You want
Speaker 2: to be young so bad to go back out there
Speaker 2: with the boys.
Speaker 3: No, I do.
Speaker 4: I'm doing because listen, I'm really not old like it.
Speaker 4: Kind of it makes me upset.
Speaker 3: And it kind of bothered me when people call me
Speaker 3: unk and I think about it, well, why you calling
Speaker 3: me unk? And I look younger than you sometimes, like
Speaker 3: you know, you know, it's like what you mean, uncle,
Speaker 3: Ye look at you, but you look fifty. You look sixty,
Speaker 3: you know, because you're drinking your life away and you're
Speaker 3: smoking and all that.
Speaker 2: But my body feel good. Huh. Give me.
Speaker 4: I ain't never been hurt. I don't have no injuries.
Speaker 4: I take care of myself and.
Speaker 2: Go back out there. You will be hurt, you think so.
Speaker 2: I think. I think. I think I have the the.
Speaker 3: Self awareness and the IQ to be able to protect
Speaker 3: myself if given the opportunity to play at the highest level.
Speaker 2: You think so, Yeah, I don't. I might not have
Speaker 2: the speed. I still have my ladder of movement. It
Speaker 2: ain't the same. It ain't the same. But even if
Speaker 2: it's not the same, it's still better than what's out there. No,
Speaker 2: it's not. You don't think so.
Speaker 1: You done lost too much of it, your fidy sence.
Speaker 1: It don't tingle anymore. Yeah, because they ain't been on.
Speaker 1: You ain't turned them on in a long time. It's
Speaker 1: like a car. You could have a bad car, you
Speaker 1: could have a bugatt it pays six million dollars for it.
Speaker 2: But don't let it run.
Speaker 1: Put it in, put it in your garage, and don't
Speaker 1: cut it on for twelve years, fourteen years, fifteen years.
Speaker 2: Right, you're right, right, you.
Speaker 1: Think it's go crank, Yeah, it should, it should, No,
Speaker 1: it won't. And then and then you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: then you have to go take it to the shop.
Speaker 1: Get all the fluid flushed. Oh I realize, don't yo
Speaker 1: you you haven't run like that, Yeah, like that like
Speaker 1: you used to run.
Speaker 2: In a very long time. Yeah, you're right, you're right,
Speaker 2: you're right.
Speaker 1: I think there's a greater chance that you will hurt
Speaker 1: something then you go out there and look like your
Speaker 1: old self.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Hey, able to chat on my head. Boy. They
Speaker 2: called you all kinds of names.
Speaker 7: Chad hurts, Chad Leaf, Yeah exactly, Hey, Chad Chad bletsoe,
Speaker 7: Chad to beato?
Speaker 2: Yeah bad?
Speaker 1: Oh, Joe, did you see did you watch any of
Speaker 1: the Rams Cowboys game. Ceedee Lamb get rocked by the
Speaker 1: official on the sideline. He was watching Joe Milton throw
Speaker 1: a deep pass, but he's watching on the jumbo tron.
Speaker 1: He knows that Joe Milton has an arm. I think
Speaker 1: I saw something other than he threw it like seventy
Speaker 1: seventy five yards, so he got his hands up. So
Speaker 1: he's watching it. He's watching the jumbo tar like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this touchdown?
Speaker 2: Literally does he know? He forgets that there's a side judge,
Speaker 2: O Jo that's running right and.
Speaker 1: Man, he ran dead in to the back of CD.
Speaker 1: And you know, if you triple official, that's unsportmh like conduct.
Speaker 4: Wait the official, well he wasn't on the field of place,
Speaker 4: so how could he?
Speaker 2: How could it don't matter. Didn't y'all have a get
Speaker 2: back coach telling y'all to get back, get back, get back,
Speaker 2: get out the way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because what happened if you tripped the official, that's
Speaker 1: a fifteen yard pennoty that's exactly what CD got. He
Speaker 1: lucky didn't get hurt because he relaxed. Don't Yoe, he
Speaker 1: don't know the guy coming. I mean right right, right right,
Speaker 1: Maybe that's a blessing and a curse because he was
Speaker 1: relaxed and he didn't tend what's up?
Speaker 3: Was it?
Speaker 2: This wasn't a touchdown, was it? No? No, no, no,
Speaker 2: no no no. Oh man.
Speaker 1: But that you know, that's why they have that's what
Speaker 1: you know we get. We call him to get back, coach,
Speaker 1: right right, get back, because you know, you got to
Speaker 1: give the official free run of the line of the
Speaker 1: sideline because if you trip him or something like that.
Speaker 1: It's not like basketball that you can you know, you
Speaker 1: can run into the official officials part of the court.
Speaker 1: But in football, you trip it, that's a fifteen yard pillow.
Speaker 2: You got to get out the way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got together, you got it. You're supposed to
Speaker 1: be five you're supposed to be. First of all, you're
Speaker 1: supposed to be five yards from the from the sideline.
Speaker 1: That's what you're supposed to be because you remember, they
Speaker 1: got the tarkoh Joe and the targo. You got the
Speaker 1: grass and four to five yards open space. And then
Speaker 1: you're supposed to stand on the tar. But you know
Speaker 1: everybody be standing on the field. Yeah, and that's when
Speaker 1: they get back, get back. He was penalized for a
Speaker 1: foul on the official. I think it's some sports with
Speaker 1: like conduct.
Speaker 5: But uh.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he definitely get well, yeah, you can't go
Speaker 1: past the third, you can't go that far down. He
Speaker 1: like gillyber Gilly had Gill.
Speaker 2: Run down the field and the Philly games and then
Speaker 2: spiked the ball.
Speaker 1: Hey that was funny. Yeah, hey, good a lot. Uh walla,
Speaker 1: say man, cuz I don't think you're supposed to did that.
Speaker 2: Beg Yeah? Yeah, but uh, I mean I've seen I've
Speaker 2: seen I've seen it call before and see he had nothing.
Speaker 1: I mean, oh, you know, that's the worst feeling to
Speaker 1: bump into something that you don't know that's there. H
Speaker 1: you know somebody you know, you running and somebody running
Speaker 1: running to you. Oh my bad because they used to
Speaker 1: be the notorious for that on the football field.
Speaker 2: O y, can't you slip it? Oh my bad? Shop.
Speaker 2: But doubt you worried about it. Bro, you right it
Speaker 2: don't he worried about it. I'm gonna get you back.
Speaker 2: Don't worry about it. If I don't get you up. Man, man,
Speaker 2: what was that for? O?
Speaker 1: Because he got me, he got I can't get him
Speaker 1: because he's smart. He know he did some chicken ish,
Speaker 1: So I can't get him. You didn't know anything about it,
Speaker 1: so I can get you because your guard was down.
Speaker 1: I gotta get somebody. Oh yo, yeah you got you
Speaker 1: got to I gotta get somebody. Somebody go get god.
Speaker 1: Uh man, I ain't got nothing to do with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you do. Your teammate, you should have, you should uh.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: He made a lot of the situational I g oh
Speaker 1: Joe on his face. He posted, see he got decked
Speaker 1: by the rail. I feel like everyone needs to laugh.
Speaker 2: He got your uh.
Speaker 3: He did.
Speaker 1: Hey, And yeah that was an official I mean, dude
Speaker 1: probably in his fifties, forties, fifties. But the matter of fact,
Speaker 1: he didn't see CD. CD didn't see him. He probably
Speaker 1: was mad, probably wanted to throw two flags on CD.
Speaker 2: Probably, And you know why, you know, you probably know why.
Speaker 3: Also, CD didn't get hurt because his body was relaxed,
Speaker 3: because something was coming up. Yeah, when you always think
Speaker 3: about I don't mean to bring this up, but John drivers,
Speaker 3: do you you always notice that the person that's always
Speaker 3: intoxicated the most, who's always in a relaxed state, in
Speaker 3: a high collision crash for some reason, it always walks away.
Speaker 2: It never gets hurt. You're right, you're right, Yeah, I
Speaker 2: hate you. You can see the chat. Uh no, what
Speaker 2: they is saying? What they call you? O Joe Mahons man. Hey,
Speaker 2: but it's it's so funny, Chad, Chad Or Losky Hey,
Speaker 2: you know you know the chat. You can't let the
Speaker 2: chat eight on my head right now? Man, they on
Speaker 2: my head.
Speaker 1: Sad Or said all the right things last night, as
Speaker 1: as expected at the Great preseason debut.
Speaker 2: Let's take a listen to what you do or had
Speaker 2: to say.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean God's patient with us as humans. We
Speaker 5: mess up that time, but I don't feel like he
Speaker 5: threw us away as individual. So it's different things in
Speaker 5: different life lessons, you know, you got to go through
Speaker 5: and I haven't went through this situation you know that
Speaker 5: that I'm in ever, So it's it's really just a test,
Speaker 5: you know, I feel like from God or whoever it
Speaker 5: is from, it's just a test anyway. I'm just thankful
Speaker 5: that I was able to see the day of light
Speaker 5: and get out there and be able to play, so
Speaker 5: you know, they didn't have to let me play, So
Speaker 5: anything and everything you know is good for me. So
Speaker 5: then you know, the kids looking up the kids definitely
Speaker 5: inspire me, of course, of course. More it's a lot
Speaker 5: of people incarcerated that that definitely talk to their friends
Speaker 5: and talk to me to tell me. My friend and
Speaker 5: my friend from jail was, you know, watching you play
Speaker 5: and watching everything that's going on. So it's just like
Speaker 5: the world, the world, you know, I say, is so
Speaker 5: small and everybody sees everything. And I'm thankful to be
Speaker 5: able to inspire people through everything.
Speaker 2: Because the lady just told.
Speaker 5: Me, Now, when I'm having a bad day, I just
Speaker 5: think about your door, and I'm saying, I gonna act
Speaker 5: like you're doing. You know, like that's so cool, you
Speaker 5: know to me that that I'm some format inspiration.
Speaker 2: Is your door.
Speaker 1: The only thing I'm gonna disagregate with you. They had
Speaker 1: to let you play because everybody else was hurt. Now,
Speaker 1: you ain't had no choice if they didn't let you play.
Speaker 1: They brought they brought a guy in. They brought in
Speaker 1: a Snoop Huntley. Yeah, because black or wasn't gonna play
Speaker 1: and the other two couldn't play. So but you did
Speaker 1: your thing. Oh yeah. All you could control is what
Speaker 1: you could control. What you could control was how you played,
Speaker 1: how you handled the how you handled the situation. That
Speaker 1: you've been placed in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he did it. He did very well. He did it.
Speaker 2: He handled it well.
Speaker 1: He said all the right things, he did all the
Speaker 1: right things. And that that's that's control what you can control.
Speaker 1: What you can't control, don't worry about it. Mm hmmm,
Speaker 1: control what you can control. Uh. He went through a storm,
Speaker 1: something he never If you'd have told him a year
Speaker 1: ago he would be in this situation where he's at
Speaker 1: right now, he wouldn't have believed that. His dad wouldn't
Speaker 1: have believed that. Nobody your I didn't wouldn't have believed it. No,
Speaker 1: absolutely not, based on But you're here, man, Now, forget
Speaker 1: how I got here?
Speaker 2: How you're going to get out of here?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because a lot of time, you know, we spent
Speaker 1: a lot of time without your bad how we got
Speaker 1: into the situation.
Speaker 2: You're in the situation now, how you gonna get out
Speaker 2: of it? Yeah? And and I think you've done a
Speaker 2: great job.
Speaker 1: Look, you know, if I'm sure he talks to his dad,
Speaker 1: even though his dad is not there, he still talks
Speaker 1: to his dad daily. Dad gives him great advice. He
Speaker 1: doesn't put any more on this that we can handle.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely not. And sometimes the situation they put you in.
Speaker 3: They're not advantageous for you. It's not the best situation
Speaker 3: for you because you got people in the situation you
Speaker 3: win that don't even believe in you.
Speaker 2: And that's when it heard worse most of the time.
Speaker 3: If here's someone, oh, I'm a part of your organization
Speaker 3: and you say, well, hell, I don't want you though, Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's that's meant to break you.
Speaker 2: That's meant to break you. You didn't Bill.
Speaker 4: Career, come on, come on, man, But everybody's not built
Speaker 4: like that mentally.
Speaker 3: You're right true in this era, in this era of
Speaker 3: of of sensitivity and oh he said this about me,
Speaker 3: And no, everybody not built for that. That's meant to
Speaker 3: break you. And if they break you mentally, it affects
Speaker 3: what you do in between the lines on the green grass.
Speaker 3: But that's neither here know there he played well the
Speaker 3: small sample size we got to see a brother Sander's twelve.
Speaker 2: Look good, you look good.
Speaker 1: You're right, Oh, Joe, you're right. Everybody are I mean?
Speaker 1: I mean sometimes, I mean sometimes when things are not
Speaker 1: going your way and you're feeling down. Yeah, man, it's
Speaker 1: hard to stay positive. And I think the thing the
Speaker 1: best thing for him is that he has a dad
Speaker 1: that's really positive. Yeah, he sees the positivity and everything.
Speaker 1: Even when it's all negativity, he'll find something positive.
Speaker 2: He'll find something good to say that os, that's so Joe.
Speaker 2: What do you want? Mhm? Make him bark, make him bark,
Speaker 2: make him bark. No, no, we don't want to. I
Speaker 2: tried to deter in from barking.
Speaker 1: And the thing is, I put Titus up, Titus asleep,
Speaker 1: so I ain't gonta worry about Titus coming and hear
Speaker 1: me him growling and going crazy.
Speaker 2: Hey, that's a good combination, bro.
Speaker 1: And then I took the bones up because him and
Speaker 1: Teddy fight. You wanted all the bones. He didn't want
Speaker 1: Teddy to have none, so he had three. I gave
Speaker 1: each one of the bone, right, so he had his,
Speaker 1: and he barked at Teddies. So once I gave him,
Speaker 1: Once I gave him Teddies, it was all good. So
Speaker 1: I just took all three of them because he gave
Speaker 1: he had two. At first, Teddy just had one, but
Speaker 1: he wasn't satisfied with that. He wanted all three. So
Speaker 1: I said, no, we're nothing to do that. You got
Speaker 1: to take We're gonna take the bones up for tonight.
Speaker 2: You got a little thug on your hands. Over there, man,
Speaker 2: you want to go stay without jo Hey, yeah, come
Speaker 2: on over here, Thanos. I'm gonn tell you. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: take you down to the city. Boy. They got a dog.
Speaker 2: They got a dog park downtown.
Speaker 1: He said, I can go to the dog park. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he said, you know, I got I got. You know,
Speaker 1: I had a little mitter procedure about a month ago.
Speaker 2: Wait what happened? Good? Yeah, what's wrong with him? We
Speaker 2: got it fixed up? Oh, why are you exact? Look?
Speaker 2: He said he heard he heard about them child support payments.
Speaker 2: He said he want none of that. No, okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 2: get out there and have a little fun. Man. Yoh
Speaker 2: girl ain't having no fun. But uh, you're doing look good?
Speaker 2: He looked good.
Speaker 1: He looked really good last night. He spoke really good
Speaker 1: after the game. And the thing now is to build
Speaker 1: excuse me, it's to build on what he did last night.
Speaker 1: He also spoke about gifting. Team made some new cleats.
Speaker 1: Check this out on Joe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just excited for them.
Speaker 5: I gifted. I gifted a lot of receivers. The prime
Speaker 5: DT ninety six is you know, a couple of them
Speaker 5: had them on. So I just I just get to
Speaker 5: a couple of like the main receivers going into this game.
Speaker 5: You know, I gifted them some some warm, some didn't.
Speaker 5: But I was like, okay, this is just my little
Speaker 5: appreciation gift to them because they don't be having a
Speaker 5: lot of stocks.
Speaker 2: So I couldn't.
Speaker 5: I couldn't do everybody I wish I could, but yeah
Speaker 5: it's great.
Speaker 2: Hey, the ones he won the game were dope. Yeah,
Speaker 2: those the one you talk about in the game with
Speaker 2: They had the orange lining like yeah, yeah, the brown
Speaker 2: color scheme, color weight. Yeah, they were nice. They were nice,
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 3: Also as a receiver. But for me, I wouldn't want
Speaker 3: to cleat that heavy. I mean they're they're heavy even
Speaker 3: based on.
Speaker 4: The way they're made. I want a lighted shoe as possible.
Speaker 2: So I mean they look good. Time could have been
Speaker 2: out there in TMS and run full three. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1: But uh it all depends. I was, uh you know,
Speaker 1: I will I wore uh uh TD bottoms. Okay, so
Speaker 1: I will wide receiver cleats at tight end.
Speaker 2: And tape your ankles. So he was he was good. Yeah,
Speaker 2: just come up my hard planner.
Speaker 3: Right me, even though I'm a hard planner on It's
Speaker 3: funny Reebok obviously was a rebark back back then, Rebok,
Speaker 3: take all the lining out of my shoe. I don't
Speaker 3: want any support. I want my shoe to be just
Speaker 3: like attract shoe like attracts you.
Speaker 2: I need to feel the floor.
Speaker 3: I need to feel the floor when I stop, when
Speaker 3: I go, when I try to cut and transition. I
Speaker 3: don't want anything restricting my ankles when it's time for
Speaker 3: my letter one and and movements. So all I had
Speaker 3: was the shell, some shoelaces and cleats at the bottom.
Speaker 2: That's it. Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1: But you always were molded, Bob. You didn't You didn't
Speaker 1: you You wore a tempo Bob, Yeah you didn't. You
Speaker 1: didn't we Yeah you didn't wear seven studs.
Speaker 3: No, I had to have a choice but to wear
Speaker 3: seven studs. When we played in Heines Field. I think
Speaker 3: they let the field be messed up like that on purpose.
Speaker 2: Yeah, soggy, My goodness.
Speaker 4: It's like, I don't know, I don't know that that
Speaker 4: was an advantage for them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure for them.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's the only time I wore seven studs.
Speaker 3: Is when we played in heines Field.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: Uh. There's a video that's been making its way around
Speaker 1: Curtis Yield Bucky. It's him confronting Brown's reporter Tony Grossi,
Speaker 1: but not having anything positive to say.
Speaker 2: Oh, Joe, let's take a look at this video. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you go.
Speaker 1: To you.
Speaker 2: Hey, that's dope, Bunk. I like it.
Speaker 3: I like it because most of the time those interactions
Speaker 3: like that, that's not how they go when it comes
Speaker 3: to players.
Speaker 2: Most of the time to come to a beat reporter
Speaker 2: that's been.
Speaker 3: Established for that long as a Cleveland Beat reporter, you know,
Speaker 3: when it comes to saying something negative, most of the time,
Speaker 3: the player challenges him in that manner because you've never
Speaker 3: said anything positive. And I could just imagine, I haven't
Speaker 3: read any of the arkle. I could just imagine if
Speaker 3: the rest of the world has been somewhat negative towards
Speaker 3: the door, I could imagine with the person that's in
Speaker 3: house that seas him every day writes so the fact
Speaker 3: that they were able to do it with a smile,
Speaker 3: with class, with grace, in understanding, with god, damn, do
Speaker 3: you have anything nice to say? Because everything I've seen
Speaker 3: so far has been negative. I did nothing to you,
Speaker 3: but obviously the dude had the job to do. You
Speaker 3: understand how to get the views, you have to understand negativity. Negativity,
Speaker 3: It would create traction, clickbait. How can I get people
Speaker 3: to read what I'm writing when you talk negative about
Speaker 3: the biggest thing going on right now in Cleveland outside
Speaker 3: of Lebron James when he was there right now is
Speaker 3: Shador Sanders.
Speaker 1: Robert Lattail Black Sports Online, GROSSI has been like this
Speaker 1: for thirty years. Baker couldn't couldn't handled it, couldn't I
Speaker 1: guess he's saying, Baker could not have handled it. Shador
Speaker 1: disarmed him in sixty second and changed his energy. That's
Speaker 1: a gift not all people have for negative people.
Speaker 3: Hey listen, they'll smile me your face, They smile your
Speaker 3: face obviously at that point and in that moment with
Speaker 3: Shador greeting him the way he did with class, with grace,
Speaker 3: But god, damn, are you gonna say anything?
Speaker 2: Was waiting on you to say something nice? Yeah? Something?
Speaker 4: So the guy has no I mean, what can you say,
Speaker 4: especially after that performance?
Speaker 2: Yeah? What what can you say?
Speaker 3: And I know people will say, oh, it's the preseason. Oh,
Speaker 3: it's a small sabbit size. Let's see what he does
Speaker 3: in the regular season.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's still this is all we have to
Speaker 2: go off.
Speaker 3: So we're talking about what we saw in that specific case,
Speaker 3: in that moment. I'm curious to what he wrote the
Speaker 3: day because I'm sure he had something to say today.
Speaker 1: I think it's different for a quarterback because you know,
Speaker 1: the eyes are all on you. But I really never
Speaker 1: had no problem. I was saying around draft pick. I
Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to be ish anyway. So anything that I gave,
Speaker 1: anything that I gave him twenty catchers, that was good.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But as I got you know, I had never had
Speaker 1: a problem with with Mark Kissler, never had a problem
Speaker 1: with Woody Paige. I never had a problem with who else.
Speaker 1: Jim Armstrong, he was a he was a columnist when
Speaker 1: I was there. He's in he was with The Indie Star.
Speaker 1: Now I forget his name. Uh, Chefton. I got to
Speaker 1: Denverer at the same time. Adam Shefton was reported Denver.
Speaker 2: Yeah, boy, chef, he's been at this thing for a minute. Boy.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, who's the guy?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: But for the Indie Star, Nah, he's the he's the
Speaker 1: columnst he's the big guy. H uh huh no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: who's the big But he was in he was in
Speaker 1: Denver when I was there the first half. I hate
Speaker 1: when I can no, come on Denver, help me.
Speaker 3: I know, y'all in the chat, somebody in the chat say, Teddy, look,
Speaker 3: I mean they don't look like a skump his color way, Teddy,
Speaker 3: I mean dannel.
Speaker 2: And like this.
Speaker 3: Huh you know how to whistle like this, hunk? No,
Speaker 3: it should be loud to hear. I want to learn
Speaker 3: how to do that. Probably too late now, well damn,
Speaker 3: I can't. It's too I got this a certain age age.
Speaker 2: Are we? Why you trying to whistle like that now?
Speaker 2: Because I just I just never. I just I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm going to a NASCAR event soon, and I want
Speaker 3: to be able to make sure I could whistle like
Speaker 3: that at the NASCAR event I'm going to. They don't
Speaker 3: take it. Oh yeah, yeah, I remember I told Bubba.
Speaker 3: I told bubb I was coming, So I'm actually coming.
Speaker 3: We got everything aligned, so I'm going down there. I
Speaker 3: got my I got my my flannel, my cut off sleeves,
Speaker 3: I got my George.
Speaker 2: I'm serious. I got my George.
Speaker 3: I'm ready, the only problem is that I don't drink
Speaker 3: as long as they got hot dogs and I'm having
Speaker 3: my coke with no Ice.
Speaker 2: Two hot dogs. A nice little date of my lady friend.
Speaker 2: I know she probably watching Man. What's the good? He
Speaker 2: can't think of his name?
Speaker 3: Man? Hey, chat, I got a poem. Y'all want to
Speaker 3: hear it or you want to what? You want to
Speaker 3: save it for later. We're gonna save it for later, Okay, Okay,
Speaker 3: I'll think about it all right, Yeah,