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Okay, we saw the debut today. 39 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: Travis Hunter Ojo saw action on both sides of the 40 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: football in his preseason debut the Jags versus the Steelers. 41 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: On offense, he had eleven snaps, two receptions nine yards. 42 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: On defense, he had eight snaps with zero targets. Ojo, 43 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: I might have to get a couple of more jobs 44 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: like you because the way they got these games spread 45 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: out and how you're gonna have to pay. Damn there, 46 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: you basically got to pay to watch each individual game. 47 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 2: Oho, I mean, listen, you know what you can do. 48 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 3: You can use YouTube TV. You can use YouTube TV 49 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 3: when you get most of the games. And also I 50 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 3: have an NFL app on my phone, so the NFL 51 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,839 Speaker 3: app allows you to be able to go back and 52 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 3: forth through some of the games you want to. You 53 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 3: can't see them all at the same time, but just 54 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 3: the preseason, it's just the preseason, so it's kind of 55 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 3: difficult to be able to watch the ones you want 56 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 3: to watch based on location, right and when where they are. 57 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 2: Most of most of them are regional games right right right. 58 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 3: But once once the regular season gets in gets in, 59 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 3: you know you'll be able to watch multiple at one time, 60 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 3: especially the one o'clock games obviously, the four thirty games, 61 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 3: and then those that are stated at seven thirty, right. 62 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: He did have eleven snaps, two receptions for nine yards. Uh, 63 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: nothing deep, nothing significant. He came up leverage on one play. 64 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 1: He'll learn these guys are really good. Hey, if you 65 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 1: got leverage and he had leverage and let the guy 66 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: bounced out side, you ain't you ain't get you ain't 67 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: catching those guys. You got to maintain your your laying 68 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: the responsibility, integrity. But like I said, it was it 69 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: was you know, I just wanted to see what you know, 70 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: we saw what we saw? What whatn't you know what 71 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying, if I mean, how do we rate it? 72 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: He caught three pans for nine yards and eight snaps 73 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: with no targets. 74 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the one thing is it's kind of 75 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 3: it's not it's not nippicking. One thing that he will 76 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 3: learn too. On the two pass that he get he 77 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 3: did he did catch. I called it. I always call 78 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 3: it that Marvin Harrison, remember Peyton Manning and Marvin Harrison 79 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 3: always having that. 80 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 2: Under that short six yards and coming in. 81 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, he did so well in college that the players 82 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 3: and the dbs in college didn't do. They would over 83 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 3: commit so much. He'd be able to spin out the 84 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 3: back door. He'd be able to the back door. But 85 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 3: now now that you're at the next level, they don't 86 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 3: over commit. They come to ballance right away and they 87 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 3: make the tackle. 88 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 2: So you got to be careful with that. But you 89 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 2: know them big guys, big guys trailing now. 90 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, you know hey. 91 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 2: Because what happened when they see that ball throwing? What 92 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: do they do? They coming? Yeah, they're coming. But but 93 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:31,239 Speaker 2: this is the thing you gotta remember. 94 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 3: He's coming from outside the end and trying to spin 95 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 3: back outside. Yes, heb is out of control, but most 96 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 3: of the time they're not out of control. No, so 97 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 3: they were under control. Let's say you you you spit 98 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 3: the man in half. When your attack coming to tackle, 99 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 3: you always hit the target. 100 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 2: So I mean, if you. 101 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: Keep going off, you don't let him get on your 102 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: outside shoulder because a lot of times, like you said, 103 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,799 Speaker 1: they over commit and the outside shoulder inside demand. 104 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 2: Now he spins out. 105 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: Now you see, as long as my outside shoulder free, 106 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: I could tackle you bingo. 107 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so that's it. That's it. He'll he'll see. 108 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 3: It will be much more difficult to be able to 109 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 3: do some of those tricks that you did in college 110 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 3: because these were out of control they over commit, they 111 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 3: attacking the inside shoulder, you know, and all you got 112 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 3: to once you spin back, it becomes a foot race 113 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 3: and you running down the. 114 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 2: Side, racing to the corner. 115 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: Now I got my inside, I got my steal farm. 116 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: Free to steal farm. You'll pick up yards. But yeah, 117 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: that those are things that you know as you play 118 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: at this at this level, you will learn a lot 119 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: of the tricks of the trade. You'll know when to 120 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,679 Speaker 1: get down, when you can fight and struggle for extra yards. 121 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: Because I'm telling you, those big guys and those lacks 122 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: hurt when them three hundred pounds hit you. That's different 123 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: than a dB tackle you. Now, Yeah, because he hitting, 124 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: he putting helmet. 125 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 2: On you, and we're. 126 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: Putting three hundred pounds exactly so and on on defensive side. 127 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: Like I said, he just had that one, that one 128 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: play that I saw that he gave up leverage. But 129 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: other than that, nothing you know, really made you the 130 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: right home about I don't think it's going to be 131 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: really hard to judge Ojo unless he gets significant snaps, 132 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and they give him an 133 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: opportunity and we see him, we see them like game 134 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: plan to get him the football. 135 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 2: It's hard. I mean he caught two passes nine yards. 136 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, I thought I thought, obviously the hype around 137 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 3: Travis Hunter second sickon round, I mean second. 138 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 2: Pick in the draft. I thought they were going to 139 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: feature him a little bit. 140 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 3: But obviously they allowed trepor Lawrence, they allowed the offense 141 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,239 Speaker 3: to flow. Whatever they gave him. They just they didn't 142 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 3: feature him. Who first played the game Brian Talma Jr. 143 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 3: Goddamn hits on the right side. Then I thought they 144 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 3: would come to him at some point and just get 145 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 3: him acclimated and then then get him going. 146 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 2: But nah, now they just waited. 147 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 3: When the opportunity to present himself, they threw in the 148 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 3: ball and you know it was it was simple. 149 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 150 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: Me personally, I think he's going to spend more time 151 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: on offense than defense. But hey, that that remains to 152 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: be seen. But I do think you're probably get a 153 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: lot more. You will see a lot more of Travis 154 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: in what he's capable of doing once the season start. 155 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to, you know, try to 156 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,679 Speaker 1: prove any point and make anything, you know, do anything, 157 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: have him do anything spectacular in the postseason, because the 158 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: thing is oh, Joe, I want to you know, you 159 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: try to keep most of your stuff under wraps. Yeah, 160 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: I don't want to show you too much in the 161 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: preseason because these games don't mean anything. I'm just trying 162 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: to get timing. I'm trying to get the guys, you know, 163 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: get the guys in football shape, because. 164 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: Here's the thing. 165 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: Now with three games, you play the third game, Now 166 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: you got it in the week, a week in. 167 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 2: Between when you play again. 168 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: It used to be, you know, we played that Thursday Friday, 169 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: and guess what, we're playing the following Sunday. 170 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 2: It's not like that anymore. 171 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: So now you play, now you got another weekend between 172 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: before you go play. And so I'm just trying to 173 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: get the guys as conditioned as I possibly can, let 174 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: them know what it's going to be expected, you know, 175 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: the timing and all that stuff. 176 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 2: But I think Travis fine. 177 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: Like I said, eleven snaps, two receptions, nine eight snaps, 178 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: zero targets. He got nineteen. He got nineteen, which is 179 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: probably about what you would think if he was just 180 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: a rookie playing on one side of the ball. That's 181 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: probably what you thought he would get. Nineteen snaps. 182 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited for him, man, But. 183 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: The most outstanding thing in the game happened when Jaguars 184 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: kicker Cam Little nailed a seventy yard field goal as 185 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: the first half expired in Jacksonville's preseason open against the 186 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: Steelers that would have broken the NFL record had it 187 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: been the regular season. Justin Tucker kicked a sixty six 188 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: yard field goal to beat the Lions September twenty sixth, 189 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one at Ford Field. Now it's a lot different. 190 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: It's a lot different kicking outside than it is inside 191 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: because you got control conditions. You don't have to worry 192 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: about win, you don't have to worry about rain, you 193 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: don't have to worry about anything. That Feeld goal, that 194 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: this gentleman kick looked like it had been good for 195 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: him about seventy two because he boomed it. 196 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 2: Yeah he did, he did. He boomed it. He boomed it. Look, 197 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 2: I don't care. I know it's preceded done. Cal Well, 198 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: you go. 199 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: Out there, you go out there to the high school field, 200 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: the kick and simply yard. 201 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 2: I mean, listen, it's very difficult. 202 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 3: I don't think people understand how far that is, even 203 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 3: for those who are professionals. You have to understand being 204 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 3: able to kick it from that far one. Most people 205 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 3: do have the leg, but the problem is it's not 206 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 3: it's not about having a leg and act. It's about 207 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 3: having the accuracy to be able to kick from that 208 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 3: far right. You have to understand the uprights have been 209 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 3: have been changed. They're a lot more narrow than they 210 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 3: used to be. Yes for the room for era, the 211 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 3: room for error when kicking. You know, most of the 212 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 3: time the ball depending on if you have the consistency yes, yes, yes, 213 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 3: that you have to consistence and you follow through. You 214 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 3: can't swing to the left or you can't leave your 215 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 3: leg open and then it'll go wide right. 216 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 4: You know, everything has to be perfect. That that that finished, that. 217 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: Policy when you kicking it that far, Yeah, because if 218 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: anything is off you kicking that far and ain't. 219 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, you wait the time one way or the other. 220 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 3: And the funny thing about it is most people, most 221 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 3: people say it is the preseason. There's no pressure as 222 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 3: well in this in this kick, there's no pressure. The 223 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 3: circumstance that that you're in. 224 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 2: You know, it's it's preseason. You know what, we're gonna 225 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 2: allow you to kick? 226 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 3: Will they allow me to kick from seventy maybe in 227 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 3: a regular season game where it actually counts. Probably, Now, 228 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 3: if you're thinking about it, if you do miss you 229 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 3: got to understand the team is already in. 230 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 2: Steelers didn't even put anybody back. That was my point. 231 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: They didn't even put anybody back there, right right, So 232 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: they're like, hey, don't even worry about it. 233 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: And that's the thing. That is the thing. 234 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: What you're saying is that they normally have a guy 235 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: back there, and if you miss it, you got really 236 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: only two guys maybe your wings. 237 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that can tackle tackle. 238 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're normally linebackers are tight end, so those are 239 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: really you only really got two guys that can tackle. 240 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: You got offensive linemen mainly offensive lineman. Now you might 241 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: have a defensive lineman on there, Ojo, but he ain't 242 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: tackling his face. 243 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 2: No. 244 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: Now, you know the kick, what's the likelihood of the 245 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: kick or the hold of getting somebody down Because we 246 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: saw it on the kick six Auburn versus Alabama. We've 247 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: seen Antonio Caramarti run those things back. We've seen Devin 248 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: Hester run it back. I think OBJ ran one back 249 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: in college. So when you put people in situations that 250 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: they're not used to being in, which is offensive lineman 251 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: having to tackle kickers and punters having to tackle, especially with. 252 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 2: That kind of space. 253 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: Now, if you get him hemmed up on the sideline, 254 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: you could try to put him out of bounds. But 255 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: that guy got a head of steam. And you know 256 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: they're taught in lineman don't really know how to get 257 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: lanes on yo, Cause you know they followed each other. 258 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: They followed me right behind one another, bro spreading our 259 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: ass out. 260 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 2: We got lanes now that you have to get in. 261 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: But that was I was like, and why not, like 262 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: you said, oh Joe, why not try something like this? Okay, 263 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,719 Speaker 1: Now I got the confidence because if it's if it's 264 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 1: a latent ball game, instead of trying to help Mary, hell, 265 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: I might, I might let the kickers come out there 266 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: and try it. 267 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 4: Out there, either the tire game or the win a game. 268 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 2: Yes. 269 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: Actually, if we're an Endy or Houston, those are indoor arenas. 270 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 2: And there's no factors from the outside elements. 271 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yeah, so congratulat, congratulations. It does not count 272 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: towards the record. But you know, you know, now I 273 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: got the I got the leg. The coach knows you 274 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: have the leg. Hey, you know you gotta think, oh Joe, 275 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: that's a kickoff. 276 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, you kickoff and hold on, wait a minute, now, 277 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 3: you do know your co hosts can kick just as far. 278 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 2: Right now, you never kicked that far. Hold on, time out, 279 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 2: time out, time out, time out. 280 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 3: You know there's video, there's visual evidence, there's video evidence. 281 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 3: I don't know, ash is there you have you have 282 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 3: a great team of people that can pull things up. 283 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 2: No she on vacation. Oh for real? 284 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 3: As can you please show on me kicking from sixty 285 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 3: sixty five yards please and having even more room to 286 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 3: go once it goes through. I think I might have 287 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 3: been with during this time. I might have been with 288 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 3: Bleacher Report. We were doing something. It's online. 289 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 290 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: I'm talking about in the game. Now, if you kill 291 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: I saw you make a pat in the game? 292 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 3: Listen, is sixty five yards in the game and then 293 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 3: or just just doing it, you know in hard practicing, 294 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 3: it's still so. 295 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 2: So so it got catched up. 296 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:26,719 Speaker 1: So got catching the ball in the Turkey Bowl to 297 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: to save it's kicking the ball in the NFL hunt. 298 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 2: Well, we're not talking about a guy. 299 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 3: We're talking you're actually referring to an actual player who plays, 300 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 3: you know, in the NFL, or played. 301 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 2: Played right many many years ago. 302 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 3: Right, but I still can mentally, I know what to do. Now, 303 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 3: the body might not react the way it should. 304 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I know what to do. I know 305 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 2: how to run. 306 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: I know how to like swing my arms and put 307 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: one leg in front of the other. But doing it 308 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: is something to get entirely different, entirely different. 309 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 3: I was just trying to give you a small example 310 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 3: that your codes can kick sixty five seventy yards as well. 311 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: No, maybe once one time my co host can kick 312 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: sixty five seven yards. 313 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 3: You failed to realize. Gotta play soccer every weekend. I'm 314 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 3: part of I'm part of a soccer league here in Miami. 315 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 2: Out Let me make your question. 316 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: You think you think messi leg speed is the same 317 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: as it was, say, fifteen years ago. 318 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 3: No, No, his speed easy, like being able to break 319 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 3: out and get away from people. 320 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 2: I said, his leg speed. Oh no, absolutely not. No, No, 321 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 2: why not no? Because he's much older now. Oh okay, 322 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 2: thank you very much. We can move along. 323 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: Cam Ward NFL preseason debut tonight in Tampa. Five of 324 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: eight completions, all completions coming on the second drive, sixty 325 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: seven yards passing at eighty nine point one rating led 326 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: his sixty five yard touchdown drive. Oh Joe, the little 327 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: bit the limited action that you saw like what you. 328 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 2: Saw, Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. 329 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 3: The funny thing about it is, oh, you know what 330 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 3: is these players are infer ready. Some rookies that I 331 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 3: saw today are so poisoned the pocket most of the time. 332 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 3: They get happy feet when pressure is put upon them. 333 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 3: But they look like them and planned for ten plus years. 334 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 3: They look like veterans. The pocket presence, the relaxedness under 335 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 3: the rest. Cam Woard showed it. Jackson Dart showed it 336 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 3: as well. 337 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 2: Obviously we saw you. 338 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 3: The door last night who also played with that same 339 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 3: calmness and poors. And you can see the leadership qualities 340 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 3: in the way they carry themselves as quarterbacks and cam 341 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 3: small sample sized that we were able to see tonight, 342 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 3: and he didn't play much, but you can tell. You 343 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 3: can tell he's sharp, you can tell he's been coached well, 344 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 3: not just here at the NFL level it was at 345 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 3: now because it doesn't just happen that fast. It's not 346 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 3: that fast of a turnaround to look that comfortable like 347 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 3: you know what you're doing. So he was coached very 348 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 3: well obviously when he was at UM and so it's 349 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 3: carried over into the NFL. And I'm excited for Tennessee 350 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 3: Titan fans, you know, and what they had with the 351 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 3: number one pick. I just don't like the fact that 352 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 3: he's been overshadowed since his pick because everyone else has 353 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 3: been talked about. This is the least talked about number 354 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 3: one pick. I think maybe whatever ever, uncle, you were 355 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 3: number one pick, So it seemed like he's went under 356 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 3: the radar. No one said anything about him when most 357 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 3: of the pressure is on a number one. 358 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 4: Pick to perform because you're going to good. 359 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 2: That was the worst last year. Like you said, I 360 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 2: can fly under the radar, right. 361 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: The difference is now, Oho, these guys come in they've 362 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: been coached by throwing coaches since they were in high school. 363 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 2: Yes, sir, there freshman. 364 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: So they're not like the guys that came in twenty 365 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: five years ago. They were just coming to the NFL 366 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: and they're okay, Hey, you get you hire a coach 367 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: right before you getting ready to go, you know, the 368 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: up to the combine, and then you work wait them 369 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: up until your pro day, and that's it. These guys 370 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: have these guys all the time. It's just like basketball players. 371 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: They got shooting coaches and they got trainers now in college, 372 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: so they have an upper hand. That's why they're So 373 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: when you find a guy that's ready, he's really ready 374 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: to play. Yes, Yes, these receivers they work with guys. 375 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: So when you find a guy that's ready, he's really 376 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: really ready. 377 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 378 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: So guys are not coming in like you. I mean, 379 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 1: like I came in. I mean, guy, you know time. 380 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: I mean guys would go down there for like maybe 381 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: six weeks that work with a speed coach. But these 382 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: guys got professionals basically training them. 383 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 2: Sometimes they have them in the high school o jo. 384 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: So just imagine you going through the process and they 385 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: give you any they're giving you pro style advice. 386 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 3: Right, and you know what, I think that's why so 387 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 3: many different quarterbacks obviously they look the part, but don't 388 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 3: have all the other intangibles to be a starter. They 389 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 3: looked a part, But cam Mood not only did he 390 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 3: look the part, but he had everything else. He had 391 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 3: all the other qualities that make him the number one pick. Obviously, 392 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 3: should do it fall into the fifth round. Not only 393 00:17:58,119 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 3: did he look the part, but he has all the 394 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 3: other tangibles that made that made him a top pick 395 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 3: despite him fall into the fifth round. Right, they polished, 396 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 3: They're polished, that's all it is. You're who's been prepared 397 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 3: for the NFL level, So you look the part once 398 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 3: you're in a structured environment in a real live game. Yeah, 399 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 3: God damn, how the hell are you dropping back? So 400 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 3: goddamn calm. Everybody rushing trying to knock his head off, 401 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 3: and he's sitting there chilling. 402 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 4: Progression one two three, Okay, three is not there? 403 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 2: Let me shoot back to one. That one ain't there. 404 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 4: I mean to throw out of the bounds or on 405 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 4: the tucket around. 406 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: Hell, now you better not if you if you go 407 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: one two three and try to go back to one, 408 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:38,959 Speaker 1: they're gonna hitt you. Put your put the help right 409 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: up under your chain. You better take that check down. Yeah, hey, 410 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: one two three, check down one two three, throw it 411 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: out of bounds. 412 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the other take off with it. Yeah. 413 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: Uh And I think, oh, Joe, I think that's what 414 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: we're seeing. If you look at these quarterbacks. I mean, 415 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: it used to be a quarterback throwing for twenty touchdowns 416 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,479 Speaker 1: in a season was like, oh gosh, he really did man, 417 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: this guy throwing for twenty five thirty touchdowns? Yeah, easy, 418 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: it's a look. And I understand the rules have a 419 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 1: lot to do with that. The way they protect the quarterback, 420 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: the way they protect the sever, the way they throw 421 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 1: the football now is more conducive for quarterback having better stats. 422 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 2: But I do think these guys are a little bit more. 423 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: Advanced than when the older guys, the Montanas and the 424 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: Lways and the Marinos when they came out. I'm not 425 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: saying they're better, but they're coach more and so I 426 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: don't know John, probably never. 427 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 2: I don't know Danny or John. To be interesting, man. 428 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: You had a pro coach, you have a Tom House, 429 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: or you have a what's Carson Palmer's brother name? 430 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 2: Oh Jordan Palmers? Real deal, you have a Did you 431 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 2: have a Jordan Palmer? Did you have a George Whitfield? 432 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: Did you have any of those guys to to help 433 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: you all these quarterbacks, they have those offensive lineman, they're 434 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: working out with offensive line coaches, they're working out with 435 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: former great NFL linement. So they're a little bit more 436 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: advanced than say the guys you know, even if you 437 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 1: want to say ten years ago, fifteen years ago, definitely 438 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: when you go start going back twenty thirty years ago, 439 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: they're more advanced. Just like the guys are coming out 440 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: in basketball. You see how even baseball, these guys you 441 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: know fathers played and so they got you know, hitting coaches, 442 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 1: they got pitching coaches. They're looking at biomechanics and they 443 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: look at all It's. 444 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 2: The funny thing about everything. 445 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 3: You think about the time and the time change, and yeah, 446 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 3: technology is advanced. 447 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 4: And everything evolves. 448 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 3: They have better resources, they got unlimited to get better 449 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 3: at said position, whatever it may be, whatever they respect 450 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 3: respective craft may be, to. 451 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 4: Hone that skill set. 452 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 3: So when they make it to the highest level right 453 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 3: to part now, it's one thing to look the part everybody. 454 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 3: I mean, the D factor can get you in the door, 455 00:20:58,200 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 3: but you got to have all the other stuff that 456 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 3: comes with it to excel. 457 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally, I totally agree. 458 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 1: But I thought Calboard played really well, especially like second drive. 459 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 1: You got the ball to Calvin Ridley, you know, really, hey, 460 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: that's somebody he could lead lean heavily on because he's 461 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: one of the premium route runners and he started to 462 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: get you he started to look like Calvin Ridley again, 463 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: because you remember that last year that he really played 464 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: in Atlanta. 465 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 2: He were cutting, he was doing it. He was really 466 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 2: doing it. 467 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: On the other side of the ball, Rookie Shiloh Sanders 468 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: delivered multiple big hits, including one on Brandon Allen on 469 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: the Blitz. First round draft pick Mecca Ibuka also showed 470 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: off his physical attributes, leaping twenty one yard grab backup 471 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: quarterback Kyle Trash. I mean, she doors played really well. 472 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: I mean I've seen footage of him in camp. He 473 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: did a great job of in the one on one 474 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: team one on one period against the tight ends. 475 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,239 Speaker 2: Job, He's on it. He was on it. 476 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: Because you have to understand he started out. He started 477 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: out as a corner. Yeah, so he does have instinct. 478 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: He started out as a corner and then moved to safety. 479 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 480 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, but when yeah, yeah, I thought he 481 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: played well. We know he's a thumper. He's looking to 482 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: get looking, get downhill and put big hits on him. Now, yes, sir, yeah, 483 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: but I thought he I think it's going to be interesting, 484 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: O Joe. How many special teams can he play? 485 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 2: Right? Because that's going to be the key. He's not 486 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 2: a state now. 487 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: He could be working his way until the starting lineup, 488 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 1: but as a right now, I don't think he's a starter. 489 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 2: So now what other ways can you contribute? Right here? 490 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 3: He'll be on He'll be on special teams, whether it 491 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 3: be field goal, whether it be we be kickoff. 492 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, put return. Can you can you be a jammer? 493 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: Can you be a gunner? 494 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 2: Yes? 495 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, m hm. Can you be on the front line? 496 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: Can you be an L one two, three, four five 497 00:22:58,600 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: on the front line? 498 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 2: Uh? You definitely gonna be on kickoff obviously. 499 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 3: Is it me or does it seem like kickoff is 500 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 3: is much more, much easier as as opposed to how 501 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 3: it was during our day, you know where you had 502 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 3: the wedge buster, you had the. 503 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they don't. 504 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,239 Speaker 1: They don't really want those type of collisions, so they 505 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: don't if you see, they're not letting you get that 506 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: kind of running start all right, right, Yeah, it's different, 507 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: it's not. It's I mean, I think Hester said he'd 508 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: have probably more return touchdowns had they had it in 509 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: like that, So it's interesting to see what would have happened. 510 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: But the advancement, I don't I don't have a problem 511 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 1: with it though, Joe, I mean sometimes like. 512 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 2: I understanding, it's different. It's very different. It's very different. 513 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 5: Uh. 514 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: The guy that you really like in the first round 515 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: the Bucks selected in Mecca a uh Booka. Uh, you 516 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: you like him, you like McMillan Carolina. 517 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 2: And they both look good. 518 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 1: Like I think whether the Golden go in the first 519 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: round or the second round for Green Bay, Matthew Golden, 520 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Uh, McMillan, I. 521 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 2: Think go to winning the second round. Ran for the 522 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 2: first number twenty three. 523 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: Then they had Jade Higgins win the second round, Luther 524 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: Burton the third win the second round, Trey Harris went 525 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: in the second round, and Jack Beach wit the second round. 526 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 1: So they were in the first two rounds. There were 527 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: seven receivers that went in the first the first two rounds. Yeah, 528 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: who do who do you expect to have the biggest impact? 529 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 2: Uh? 530 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 3: Probably honestly out of everyone you just named, I know, 531 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 3: matt Matthew Golden is good. 532 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 2: He's phenomenal. 533 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 3: Obviously they do have Dubbs, they have Jaydane Reid, so 534 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 3: I don't think he will get the number of targets 535 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 3: necessary to be able to showcase reed Dobbs Washington. 536 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 2: It's it's so many of them over there. I think 537 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 2: he will he will contribute. 538 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 3: But I really believe T mac McMillan over there with 539 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 3: the panther, you know, and with with what he's able 540 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 3: to do, and the show very small sample size. Honestly, 541 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 3: it's been one preseas game. But again I've been high 542 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 3: on the pants. I think T is going to be 543 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 3: the one to show showcase his ability and what he 544 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 3: can do is a mismatch every time they leave in 545 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 3: one on one. He's very tall, he can run after 546 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 3: the catch and the fifty fifty ball turn. 547 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 2: Into eighty twenty when it is him. 548 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 3: So I'm excited for him. He's the one I'm highest 549 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 3: on and hoping that not just him, but collectively as 550 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 3: a group offensively as a receiving corps. I think they 551 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 3: make the difference in Bryce Young taking the next step 552 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 3: in his career. 553 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 1: I agree, I think him. I like uh Ibuka also 554 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 1: for the simple fact how healthy. It's what God would 555 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: be his return right right is he only is he 556 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: gonna I don't think he's gonna pup, But so it's 557 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to see how he used you know, 558 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: we know Baker can throw it. Hey, you got missed 559 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 1: consistency on one side. Evans Mike Evans and then so 560 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: Booker could really have a huge year. But I but 561 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: I but I like mc millan also, long angular guy. 562 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: What he's like six three six four, make tough contested catches. 563 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: He's good run after the catch. Yeah, yeah, I mean 564 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 1: I think these good. I think Matthew Golden, I mean 565 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: you look you Okay, Romeo Dobbs, you mentioned Kristin Watson. 566 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 2: You meant Reid. 567 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: They got they got a lot of receivers. They don't 568 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 1: really have a guy that like, Okay, this is the 569 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: guy that you gotta worry about. You kind of got 570 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 1: to worry about them all because at in a given moment, 571 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 1: because you know it might be Dobbs weeks one week 572 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: and that it'll be Christian Watson. 573 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 2: Watson's biggest thing is staying healthy. Yeah he he canna 574 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 2: put him up and put him down, pick him up 575 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 2: him now quietly. 576 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 3: The goddamn damn Packer's got a four about one team. 577 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 3: Uh m h Yeah, they got a four about one team. Yeah, 578 00:26:55,920 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 3: Dove Watson, Reid can fly, Dobbs, Golden can fly. 579 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 2: Man stop playing. 580 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, I think McMillan and Abuka would have the 581 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: biggest but I'm not going to sleep on you know, 582 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: Luther Burton, A lot of people thought he'd be a 583 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 1: first round draft pick receive out of Missouri. He goes, 584 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: he goes to the Bears. They got DJ Moore, they 585 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: got Roma Doomsay. Uh, they drafted a tight end in 586 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: the first round. They still have Cole Comet upgrading their 587 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: offensive line. 588 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 2: They should be and they got. 589 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 1: Detroit so old offensive coordinator as the head coach calling the. 590 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 2: Players called him creativity. 591 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, so they should definitely be better offensively. And if 592 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 1: they are better offensively, well big number because if you 593 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: look at Detroit, you look at Jamison Williams had had 594 00:27:54,560 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: a phenomenal season. You look at armand Ross Saint Brown, Yeah, yeah, 595 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 1: had a big season. 596 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 2: You know what's funny is Almond Ross Saint Brown. 597 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 3: He's one of the top five receivers depending on how 598 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 3: you put him in the left order in the NFL. 599 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 2: Well, I really think it. 600 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 3: Didn't matter who was calling the goddamn plays because he's 601 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 3: so good at just route running in general, he's a 602 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 3: polished one. You know, I don't have to scheme you open. 603 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 3: He's one of those where officer coordinators in your head, coach, 604 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 3: you know what, I could sleep at night. 605 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 2: Because I ain't got to worry about that one. It 606 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 2: don't matter who we plan. I don't have to worry 607 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 2: about him. I know what he can do. 608 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 3: So you add what he can do in his skill setting, 609 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 3: his DNA, and then you put that with the creativity 610 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 3: that Ben Johnson has. 611 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 2: Yes, get what you saw last last year. You get magic. 612 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 2: You get magic. 613 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 3: And I don't know if there's anyone like that, but 614 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 3: that type of skill set similar to a Mom Ross 615 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 3: Saint Brown on the Bears. 616 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 4: But DJ Moore is damn good. He's not that far behind. 617 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 2: He doesn't have that short area of quickness like that. 618 00:28:58,960 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 2: Yeah no, no, no, no, no, no. 619 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: That's not what he is. He's can you play this lot? Yeah, 620 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: he's an outside the number He and Roman Dunes is 621 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: outside the number type of guys. 622 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 2: So you're gonna be all right. 623 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 3: The good thing about it is is Ben Johnson is 624 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 3: going to understand and know his player of strengths and 625 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 3: put them in position to be able to make those 626 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 3: plays and not allow them to be exposed in whatever 627 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 3: that we can see is that we can't see watching 628 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 3: from home. 629 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 2: We don't know it. They know it, right. 630 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: Jackson dark shining in his NFL debut twelve of nineteen, 631 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty four passing yards, one touchdowns, zero interception. 632 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 2: He led three scoring drives. 633 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: The TV came on a twenty nine yard strike down 634 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: the left side line to Lil Jordan Humphrey with pressure 635 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,479 Speaker 1: in his face. He also rushed three times for twenty 636 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: four yards. Old, Joe, you like what you saw? 637 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, Shoot, listen, we wasn't even know Jackson Dart and 638 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 3: now started to show off. But how good he looked 639 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 3: and being in season ready, being polished, you know, look 640 00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 3: really good in the look really good in the. 641 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 2: He wasn't ratic most of the time. 642 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 3: You get rookie quarterbacks in an environment like that in 643 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 3: a game, and everybody got happy feed. 644 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 2: Everybody got happy feed. 645 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 3: They look, they look at the first read, the first 646 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 3: rding in there, they take it off and they're gone. 647 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 3: But no, he did everything. He did everything the right way. 648 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 3: You can tell he's another one who's been coached up 649 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 3: and was ready. 650 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 2: For the moment. 651 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 3: The moment wasn't too big for him, even though it's 652 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 3: just the preseason. So it's like going on your first date. 653 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 3: The first thing you want to do in your first 654 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 3: eight is you want to be impressionable. You want to 655 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 3: do everything possible to do all the right things. 656 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 2: You want to open the door. You want to let 657 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 2: her order curse. Huh. 658 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 3: He did, He did every He did everything right. Shoots, 659 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 3: as did Camboard And obviously we saw your door. Who 660 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 3: had a bigger plate to be able to show what 661 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 3: he can do. Hell he didn't got he got the 662 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 3: third base in the first night. 663 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. And he played. I mean you get all 664 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 2: the quarterbacks played. 665 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: Rush was six and seven, James was seven of eleven, 666 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: sixty two yards touchdown, Tommy Devido ten or fourteen seventy 667 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: three yards a touchdown, Jackson Dart twelve of nineteen, one 668 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty four yards and a touchdown, thirty five 669 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: and fifty one three seventeen three touchdowns. So clearly they 670 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: had a plan. They were going to throw the football. 671 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, they were going to throw the football. 672 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: Absolutely yeah. And I thought, I thought, I thought the 673 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: guys played really really well. Jackson Dart threw the ball well. 674 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: Little Jordan Humphrey been in the league for a while, 675 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: so had some a consistent player outside to. 676 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 2: Catch the ball for him. 677 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: But yeah, Jackson Dart looked, he looked extremely well. You know, 678 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: he's went the old miss playing Kiffin laying Yep, great 679 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: offense in mind the quarterbacks does a great job coaching quarterbacks. 680 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: So maybe I'm not as I'm not surprised that he 681 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: played so well given who he totally under. 682 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And the funny thing about it is, 683 00:31:58,480 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 2: I believe. 684 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 3: Russell's going to be starter. Russell Wilson's going to be 685 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 3: the starter for the New York Giants, I can tell 686 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 3: you that. But they wanted to see what Jackson Dart 687 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 3: would look like once the keys had turned over to him. Now, 688 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 3: it could be this season if things aren't going well 689 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 3: for the Giants offensively, But Russell Wilson will be the 690 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 3: starter for the New York Giants for the foreseeable future. 691 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 3: Unless things aren't going well offensively, well. 692 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 2: I'll see about the start. I don't know if he's 693 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 2: going to be the finisher. 694 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 3: But listen, there's a chance he stays the finisher because 695 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 3: of what he has around it. 696 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 4: You get that ball, you get that ball to the 697 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 4: other who knows, Yeah, you put. 698 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 2: Him in positions to make plays for you. It makes 699 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 2: your job a lot easier. 700 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but you're all bad. 701 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 3: Hey, somebody in the chat making fun of me uncle 702 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 3: with that. They talked about that I got the same 703 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 3: thing I had on last night on last night's show. 704 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 2: Well, actually I do. 705 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: I ain't taking a showers, but I mean, look, are 706 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: you gonna keep Are you gonna keep two veteran quarterbacks 707 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: in the rookie. 708 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 3: Yes, Jameis Winston is not the one. He's great, great, great. 709 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. You're 710 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: gonna keep two veteran quarterbacks. You know what you're playing, Russ. 711 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: You're probably playing James. What are you playing? Jamis five 712 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: to seven million? And you know Jackson Dart's not going anywhere. 713 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 3: No, but you keep, you keep, Russ, I mean, you 714 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 3: keep Jameis Winston in great locker room presence, a great 715 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 3: presence for the team in general. He's just good for 716 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 3: the locker room in general, and just if it comes 717 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,479 Speaker 3: down to emergency situations, we understand that James, James can 718 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 3: go in there and have some fun, not only have 719 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 3: some fun, but be consistent kind of turnover prone depending 720 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 3: on how long he's in there at the position, but 721 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 3: outside of that he can make plays as well. 722 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: But because that's a tough divisional Joe, oh, very very, 723 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: I mean you got the Eagles, you got to what 724 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: the commanders? You got the Cowboys. I mean, people say 725 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: the Cowboys is gonna be better? How much better? I 726 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: don't know. We think the Eagles are still the cream 727 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: of the of that division based on what they did 728 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: last year, what they brought back. Yeah, listen, very, Washington commanders, 729 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: we expect, we expect Jade and Daniels not to have 730 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:11,720 Speaker 1: a sophomore slump. 731 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 2: Now they do have someone that's disgruntled. 732 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,800 Speaker 3: Okay, McClory, I was gonna say, I was gonna say, listen, 733 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 3: having your number, having your number one target, having your 734 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 3: security blanket paid and happy would help prevent having a 735 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 3: sophomore slump. But hey, maybe they know what they're doing 736 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,439 Speaker 3: over there in Washington. But there is no room for error, 737 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 3: There is no room for era in the NFC East. 738 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 2: When it comes to quarterback play. 739 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 3: You got to be consulted weekend and week out because 740 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 3: everyone else is so good, everyone else got so much better. Hell, 741 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 3: the Eagles coming off a goddamn Super Bowl win. You 742 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 3: think they don't want to go back. They didn't do 743 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 3: anything but improve as well. 744 00:34:53,360 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: YEP, I agree, So Jackson Dark, say Sudre Cuche Bro. 745 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 746 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,280 Speaker 1: Brian dave Ball on what he thought of Jackson Dark's performance, 747 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: It's about what I thought it would be. Efficient, effective, aggressive, 748 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: confidence in the pocket. Still stuff can work on, but 749 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,879 Speaker 1: he's doing good. Brian dave Ball is a great coach. 750 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 1: I mean, I like his offensive mind. I don't you know, 751 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 1: there remains to be seen offense as a head coach, 752 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: but we saw him in Alabama. Now, he didn't have 753 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: the great success at Cleveland, but hey, I ain't a 754 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 1: whole lot of outside of a Paul Brown. There hadn't 755 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,959 Speaker 1: been a whole lot of coaches that had success in Cleveland. Well, 756 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 1: Marty had some success. He got the AFC Championships a 757 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: couple of times with the Brown Sam Retigliano. 758 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 2: That was before your time in the early eighties. 759 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: But Brian Dayball's offensive mind, I mean, he was the 760 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 1: guy that really got Josh Allen on track. Now then 761 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: people because proud of him getting there, people like, I 762 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: don't know, the jury is still out on. 763 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 2: Josh. And then Brian day ball comes there. 764 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: And not only he was so good, he parlayed that 765 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: into a head coaching job for himself. Yeah yeah, and 766 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 1: so uh yeah. He said he was efficient, he was effective. 767 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 1: He was aggressive of the confident things that you like 768 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: for the quarterback. You like for it to be officiing, 769 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: you like for it to be effective. You like for 770 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: him to be aggressive. Don't be a dunking and dunket 771 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: it on here because you're scared to throw the ball. 772 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 2: Non throw the ball down the field. 773 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 3: It was it was third down. It was third down, 774 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,399 Speaker 3: and he took the three by one side, the three 775 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 3: by one side. He take the deep ball instead of 776 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 3: throw instead of throw a short for the first down. 777 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 3: See he said that third is third or whatever. Hell 778 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 3: he went deep touchdown. 779 00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's when you're not afraid. You're not worried 780 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 1: about your completion percentage, You're not worried about your quarterback 781 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 1: for rating, you're not worried about your QBR right, just 782 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,479 Speaker 1: score points by pushing the ball down. 783 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 2: Down the field. Yeah. JJ. 784 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: McCarthy said he was emotional in his first game in 785 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 1: three hundred and sixty four days. McCarthy said there was 786 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: a little tear drop during the national anthem before he 787 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: took the field for the first time since a torm 788 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,760 Speaker 1: and niscus in his right knee that ended his rookie season. 789 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 2: It was just the. 790 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,839 Speaker 1: Journey that any injured player goes on to get back 791 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 1: out there and doing the things that they love. 792 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,280 Speaker 2: It just shows how much I care for this game. 793 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: He completed his first three passes, all to wide out 794 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 1: wide receiver Jordan Addison, and led the Vikums to a 795 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 1: field goal on their opening drive before Kevin O'Connell pulled him. 796 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 1: McCarthy four of seven completion. He was four completions of 797 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: seven attempts thirty yards. He also converted a fourth down 798 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 1: with an eight yard run. Oh, Joe, did you like 799 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: what you see from JJ McCarthy. 800 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. I 801 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:01,839 Speaker 2: was kind of I was kind of nervous for him. 802 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 2: I was kind of nervous for him. 803 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 3: I wanted to be able to I wanted him to 804 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,359 Speaker 3: be able to get through a clean game. No mishaps, 805 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 3: no mistakes are going to happen, but the things that 806 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 3: we were not going to be able to see, but 807 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 3: looked like he handled it. He handled the offense very 808 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 3: very well. I would have liked to see Justin Jefferson 809 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,359 Speaker 3: out there. Obviously he's I think he's nursing something, trying 810 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 3: to make sure he didn't have any mishaps or sup 811 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 3: ups either with whatever injury is bothering him. But JJ 812 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 3: looked good, Jajy looked good, looked like he looked like 813 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 3: the quarterback of the future Addison. Everyone else around him 814 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 3: look good as well. So I don't see any problems. 815 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 3: I don't see them missing the beat offensively as long 816 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 3: as JJ does. 817 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 2: Exactly what we're supposed to. 818 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 3: Hell if Sam Donald could do it but what he 819 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 3: had last year right, and JJ McCarthy can do it 820 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 3: as well. 821 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 1: Sam Howe came in and was eleven or thirteen fo 822 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 1: one hundred and five yards o't Joe Brett Ripping was 823 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 1: one for four. But the guy that we wanted to see, 824 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 1: like you said, he tore up in Niscaus last year 825 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: and he missed his entire rookie season. So to see 826 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,800 Speaker 1: him get back out there today and he says it's emotional, 827 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,359 Speaker 1: and that's that is that's true. The more the more 828 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 1: you care about something, the more it hurts when you 829 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: don't have it or you can't do it right. 830 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 2: So it's. 831 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 1: It was great to see him out there because they're 832 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 1: lost the expectations. 833 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,760 Speaker 2: They're there. You know, they're in a good division. 834 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 1: Look at I mean last year they went fourteen and 835 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,240 Speaker 1: three and they started on the road because the fifteen 836 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 1: and two Detroit Lions. Yeah, we think Chicago is going 837 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 1: to be better. We think green Bay is going to 838 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 1: be better the Bear excuse me, Detroit. I mean, we 839 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,439 Speaker 1: don't think they're going to take a step back. 840 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:45,240 Speaker 2: They do get Hutch back, yay, miss the motor. 841 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, but I thought JJ McCarthy played well, you know, 842 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: it's really you don't want to say he's a rookie, 843 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 1: but theoretically is because he didn't really really get anything 844 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: done last year because as soon as he you know, 845 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 1: I think he got hurt in practice. 846 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 2: You know who? 847 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:07,839 Speaker 3: You know who I didn't see when we were talking 848 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 3: about the Giants game. Yeah, but did brother abdu card 849 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:15,359 Speaker 3: to play today? You probably had limited snaps. 850 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: Huh if he played at all. I mean, we can 851 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: go back and see if I can find him on the. 852 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 2: On the. 853 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: He played, actually he did play okay, okay, but you know, 854 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 1: as a D lineman. 855 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a rhythm. Man. 856 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 1: You just can't go out there the first player gets 857 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 1: a sack, man, you gotta be. You gotta you know, 858 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 1: you gotta set the guy up. 859 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta be. You know. 860 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,720 Speaker 1: Now unless you did that like that? Uh that jedr 861 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 1: defensive lineman number seventy eight. Well he made the game. 862 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 1: He made the team tonight. 863 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. Two sacks, fum fumber recovery for a touchdown pressure. 864 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, he on the team. Yeah, yeah, yeah, hey, he's like, yes, sir. 865 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 1: He had snick. He had six snaps. Abdual Card has 866 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 1: six snaps in the preseason debut. Three snaps were rushing 867 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 1: the passer. All three rushings resulted in the pressure and 868 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: the hurry per PFF and next Gen stats. So he 869 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: did what he was supposed to do. He flashed. But 870 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: like I said, I think the thing is with d Limany, 871 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 1: they working on stuff. D liman are basically like a 872 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 1: wide receiver because he's setting you up for something that 873 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 1: he's gonna use at a later day and time. So if 874 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: you think the move that you see that he starts 875 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: the game with is the move that he's gonna finish 876 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 1: the game with, you're sadly mistaken. It's just like a 877 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 1: wide receiver. If you think that ride I ran on 878 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 1: you to start the game, it's going to be the 879 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 1: one I finished on you. You said I'm gonna give you, 880 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you the illusion, and that's what I'm 881 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 1: ging it's going to be that. Yeah, But it's not 882 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,800 Speaker 1: gonna be that. Yeah. And Justin Field's preseason debut against 883 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 1: the Packers, Field was ultra efficient. He was three or 884 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 1: four passing forty two yards, ran the ball twice for 885 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 1: fourteen yards, and didn't take a single sack. Feels orchestrated 886 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,800 Speaker 1: a sharp opening drive against the Packers starting defense, Kappa 887 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,799 Speaker 1: get off with a thirteen yard rushing touchdown. This set 888 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,440 Speaker 1: the tone for the excellent preseason open for Aaron Glenn's squad. 889 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 1: Does Field remaining calm composed in the control pocket? What 890 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,360 Speaker 1: do you think, O Joe? Do you think did you 891 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 1: like what you saw from him tonight? 892 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, absolutely. 893 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 3: Listen, we saw we saw flashes of brilliance when he 894 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 3: was with the Bears. We saw flashes of what he 895 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 3: can do when he's with the Pittsburgh Steelers. So what 896 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 3: we saw tonight is what we expected from fields. It's 897 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 3: all about him just being consistent and being able to 898 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,319 Speaker 3: do it week week two week. 899 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,800 Speaker 2: He's always wanted us to be a starting quarterback. 900 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 3: I think he wasn't dealt a fair deal in Chicago 901 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 3: because when you look at the Chicago Bears in that 902 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 3: organization and the way they conducted and handle quarterbacks throughout 903 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 3: the years, it hasn't been great at all. 904 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:52,799 Speaker 2: It hasn't been great at all. 905 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 3: It just hasn't. Now things are a little different. Got 906 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,719 Speaker 3: Ben Johnson or Kata Williams. Things are different the way 907 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 3: they're running the system. Obviously, in Pittsburgh, russ was promised 908 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 3: the starting job Ruskins Hurst. Justin Field comes in, he 909 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 3: plays phenomenal, He plays phenomenal. But obviously, once Russki is healthy, Russe, 910 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 3: I mean justin Field is bench. 911 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 2: Boom damn it. Can I just get opportunity? 912 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 3: Can I get an opportunity to shine and show what 913 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 3: I can do at the quarterback position. I can be 914 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,720 Speaker 3: quarterback number one if you put me in a situation 915 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,839 Speaker 3: that is advantageous for me at my skill set. Now 916 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,240 Speaker 3: that in New York with a players coach that played 917 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,440 Speaker 3: the game and understands exactly what you can and can 918 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 3: do and can it do what he needs to do 919 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 3: to make sure you're successful. You got Garrett Wilson. I 920 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,839 Speaker 3: don't know who, and I can't remember his last name. 921 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 3: I meant to write it down. I don't know if 922 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,800 Speaker 3: it was a fullback that kept making those plays tonight 923 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 3: or tight end. I think he wore forty seven. I 924 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 3: think it was wearing forty seven. Hey, young bull popped 925 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,880 Speaker 3: out on film. He popped out on film to the 926 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,719 Speaker 3: point where, well, I don't know who this is, but 927 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 3: I guarantee you he's gonna have a starting job. 928 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 2: I don't know if it was a fullback or a 929 00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 2: tight end, but he was balling. 930 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,799 Speaker 1: Just had four hundred and three yards total yards. Green 931 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 1: Bay had two turnovers. Time of possession was thirty eight 932 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 1: forty one, Jets twenty one to nineteen. First down was 933 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:17,759 Speaker 1: twenty one to twelve in favor of the Jets. Like 934 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 1: I said, I think his name is Jay too Fairley. 935 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 1: He made a team tonight. 936 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:30,760 Speaker 2: He did two sacks. Yeah, and he had a fumble 937 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 2: recovery for a touchdown. Yeah, you're gonna be all right, But. 938 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:40,160 Speaker 1: I think that's that's the key for him. The Jets 939 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,319 Speaker 1: showed that showed justin Fields that they wanted it. Oh yeah, 940 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,360 Speaker 1: they gave a two year deal. They put him in. 941 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,239 Speaker 1: He's the starter. They do have ty Rod to be 942 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,279 Speaker 1: his backup. But that's what he wanted. That's why he 943 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,280 Speaker 1: didn't go back to Pittsburgh. He said, now y'all already 944 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,239 Speaker 1: showed me what y'all want. Y'all already did me. How 945 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 1: y'all gonna do. Listen, you're not gonna do me dirty twice? 946 00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:58,480 Speaker 2: No, absolutely, listen. 947 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 4: Pittsburgh is the situation where there's a young lady that 948 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 4: wants you. 949 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 3: She wants you, she doesn't want nobody else to have you, 950 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 3: so she puts you in the friend zone until the 951 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 3: dude she really won't get his act together. 952 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 2: Okay, now I'm gonna put you off on the bench. 953 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,239 Speaker 2: Now I'm gonna go deal with Russ. That's whatever. 954 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 3: That's the situation last year, right, So listen, you get smart. 955 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,759 Speaker 3: That ain't the situation. That's ideal for me, and where 956 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,719 Speaker 3: I want to go. New York is perfect for him. 957 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,480 Speaker 3: He got somebody that actually wants him. When you have 958 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 3: somebody that actually wants you, you're able to play freely understanding. 959 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 2: Okay, they have to look over my shoulder. 960 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,719 Speaker 3: I don't have the pressure of having to do everything 961 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,439 Speaker 3: perfect and do everything right. 962 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 2: I can just play football, That's the thing. 963 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:44,319 Speaker 1: And I think ag you know they moved on from 964 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers basically for Justin Fields. 965 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:46,799 Speaker 2: Yeah. 966 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:55,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, but he made it easy for him Rogers, Yeah, 967 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,359 Speaker 3: he made it easy. No, you have someone like ag 968 00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,760 Speaker 3: ag Ain't playing with that. I'm not sure if I'm ready. 969 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm buying in. I don't know 970 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 3: if I'm be there for training camp. I don't know 971 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:05,920 Speaker 3: if I want to take it down. Ag Ain't got 972 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,280 Speaker 3: time for that. I'm trying to change the entire culture. 973 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,360 Speaker 3: I need players that are boarding. Whether you've been playing 974 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,040 Speaker 3: five years or we've been playing twenty. I need you 975 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 3: on the same page to me and hej he just wasn't. 976 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,400 Speaker 1: Only if you're a relative. Do you have tolerance for 977 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:23,680 Speaker 1: BS as a person age, Yes, sir, Yeah, you know 978 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 1: you you a if that person not related to you 979 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:31,360 Speaker 1: know people like yeah, man, you know old people and 980 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 1: you know, look at this juncture, ag coming in as 981 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,880 Speaker 1: a new coach, he needs everybody to be bought in. Yes, 982 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 1: Aaron being as great as he is and being who 983 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:50,160 Speaker 1: he is he can easily sway a locker room. So 984 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 1: I think for AG to looking at it, like for 985 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 1: me to make sure I still have control of this 986 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,920 Speaker 1: locker room. Let's just move on, because I'm not so 987 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 1: sure if Aeron dip would there was something that did 988 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 1: AG want to hear Aaron say something? Unless Aaron came 989 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 1: with that thing, turning back flips like yes, sir, let's 990 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,759 Speaker 1: let's go a g I'm ready right, unless he got that, 991 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,440 Speaker 1: they probably was gonna move on anyway, Oh Joe, they 992 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:18,760 Speaker 1: probably gonna move on. Yeah yeah, and uh, but hopefully 993 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:23,799 Speaker 1: Justin can seize this opportunity because this is a perfect opportunity. 994 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 1: This might be the best opportunity because you know, when 995 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:28,960 Speaker 1: he went to Chicago, you knew he was gonna be 996 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:29,400 Speaker 1: the starter. 997 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 2: They just didn't have the pieces around him. And I 998 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:32,120 Speaker 2: don't know if that. 999 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 1: System was conducive and the coach was conducive. Now he 1000 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,919 Speaker 1: has another defensive minded head coach, but I think AG 1001 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:47,000 Speaker 1: has has an offensive guy that can put Justin Field's 1002 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,640 Speaker 1: in position to be successful. 1003 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,759 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and listen, you would do. 1004 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,920 Speaker 3: Let's let's understand what Justin Field has at his disposal 1005 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,439 Speaker 3: over there with the Jets. Well you got breist Hall, 1006 00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,840 Speaker 3: you got brother. Uh but Alan, Alan who looks like 1007 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,439 Speaker 3: who looks like a Derrick Henry who looks the part? 1008 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,759 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not saying he's der Derrick Henry. I'm 1009 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,400 Speaker 3: just saying they have a one two punch of the 1010 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 3: running back position. We have one of top ten receivers 1011 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,439 Speaker 3: in the NFL depending on where you slay the Matt, 1012 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:19,800 Speaker 3: depending on where you want him. Matt and Garrett Wilson. Well, goddamn, 1013 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 3: who's the number two? I don't know who they damn 1014 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 3: a chat who's the number two at receiver man with 1015 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 3: the Jets? 1016 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 2: It's slipping my mind? Damn you think I mean he look. 1017 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:49,520 Speaker 1: Uh? Alan Lazar still there? Alan, Josh Renolds, Josh Reynolds. 1018 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,160 Speaker 1: You remember Josh Renolds. I think he played for the 1019 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,279 Speaker 1: He played for the Rams. I think he was in 1020 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 1: like Tennessee. So was he in uh or was he away? 1021 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 2: Is he in uh? 1022 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:08,960 Speaker 6: Detroit? I'm almost certain he was with the Rams. So 1023 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,239 Speaker 6: hold on Lard and Josh Reynolds. So that's the that's 1024 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:12,920 Speaker 6: the two and the three. 1025 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 1: Gary was Yeah, he's trying to find out. We know, 1026 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 1: Gary Wilson that were trying to find the other receivers. 1027 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,280 Speaker 1: But that is Josh Runner that he's with the Rams. 1028 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,880 Speaker 1: I think he's with Tennessee or. 1029 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:35,920 Speaker 2: Or was it a liars? Okay, yeah, he with the Broncos. 1030 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:41,759 Speaker 2: You like a You think Ag is the right fit 1031 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:42,880 Speaker 2: for the Jets' Joe Oh? 1032 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:47,000 Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely. Listen, you need a player like that that 1033 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,960 Speaker 3: can deal with that media. Forget in the house, forget 1034 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 3: the football stuff. Give me somebody with a mindset and 1035 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 3: the mentality that can deal with all the bullshit and 1036 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,319 Speaker 3: the stereotypes that come along with being the head coach 1037 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,959 Speaker 3: in the market of that magnitude. Want to get something 1038 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:03,960 Speaker 3: that's ready for that. Okay, Now I can work on 1039 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,200 Speaker 3: everything else. I can work from the top on down. 1040 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,000 Speaker 3: And Ag is the right player for that. 1041 00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,719 Speaker 2: And he played in New York, so he definitely understands it. 1042 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, but hey, listen, one thing about it. Even though 1043 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,360 Speaker 3: he played in New York. You understand how those newspapers are. 1044 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 3: You ain't getting no cut either. We ain't give me 1045 00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,560 Speaker 3: your no break either. But the things ain't going right. 1046 00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,759 Speaker 2: We're gonna hop on YouTube, yep. 1047 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,080 Speaker 3: But hey, the newspaper, the newspaper outlets and media outlets 1048 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,800 Speaker 3: are ruthless and I don't know who creates some of 1049 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:31,960 Speaker 3: the headlines sometimes, Boy. 1050 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:36,200 Speaker 2: They so creative. Definitely, they say, if you can make 1051 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,600 Speaker 2: it in New York, you can make it anywhere anywhere, 1052 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:40,240 Speaker 2: make it anywhere. 1053 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,440 Speaker 3: Hey, just sitting here talking about all this quarterback play man, 1054 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,399 Speaker 3: it just reminded me of my day man at beachid Man. 1055 00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:48,800 Speaker 2: Remind me of my days at beachid Man. You know, 1056 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,439 Speaker 2: I was one of the best in the state. Huh huh. 1057 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,759 Speaker 2: Give me. I wanted the best. You want the best 1058 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,040 Speaker 2: delivered the city. No, no, no, no, in the state 1059 00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:58,560 Speaker 2: I'm talking about in the world. I was one of 1060 00:50:58,600 --> 00:50:59,720 Speaker 2: the best in the world. I remember. 1061 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 3: You know, it's funny to yeah, hey, for me to 1062 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,920 Speaker 3: have played quarterback at Mimmy be Senior High in nineteen 1063 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,680 Speaker 3: ninety six. I still remember my receivers, my number one 1064 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:12,560 Speaker 3: and my number two, Dwight Ster and Richard lucell my lit. 1065 00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,279 Speaker 4: That's my little Zoue, Dwight Dwister. I mean, Dwight was 1066 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:16,000 Speaker 4: my homeboy. 1067 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,399 Speaker 2: Joe as he was good. Oh Joe, huh. 1068 00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,279 Speaker 1: You think Joe Montowna could tell you who is what 1069 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,200 Speaker 1: I receivers were in college or in high school. 1070 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,720 Speaker 3: Probably you only had two or three? Oh Joe, damn, 1071 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,959 Speaker 3: we probably can't. But see my my my two. Dwight 1072 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,200 Speaker 3: stir for Richard Lucelle. That's my Zoe. Richard lu said, 1073 00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,560 Speaker 3: that's my zoeop, I say, Richard, if you see this, 1074 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:34,439 Speaker 3: you know, hey, we was at that doing work. 1075 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:35,080 Speaker 2: Hey, listen. 1076 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,120 Speaker 3: My running back was Tobo Wilson. Oh my goodness, boy, 1077 00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,839 Speaker 3: Toby he was. You should have saw me out there. 1078 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,760 Speaker 1: Okay, named the offensive line, name your five offices. 1079 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:48,399 Speaker 2: Live and at Oregons at Oregon State. At Oregon State. Yeah, 1080 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,520 Speaker 2: I played receiver. I don't know exact exactly, that's my point. Hey, 1081 00:51:53,360 --> 00:52:01,839 Speaker 2: I was running the office like this, blue Eddy Blue. Hey, Mike, 1082 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,239 Speaker 2: you're hot. You're hot. You get too you get too off, Mike, 1083 00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,160 Speaker 2: you hot? Boy? Yeah, Chad, he ain't say none of that. 1084 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,480 Speaker 4: Alert alert alert alert alert alert alert. 1085 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,960 Speaker 2: And then I go to the gunt, do none of that. 1086 00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,920 Speaker 4: Hey, Hey, well I used to be he I used 1087 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:16,680 Speaker 4: to be killing that thing. 1088 00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,839 Speaker 3: A quarterback. I had had on the number two too. 1089 00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,400 Speaker 3: And you got to remember, remember I was the baby 1090 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:25,120 Speaker 3: when I was a freshman. These starts with the quarterback. 1091 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:29,360 Speaker 3: SA Mari Rolle was a receiver Terry Cousins was playing 1092 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,879 Speaker 3: running back. So you got to you gotta understand, y'all 1093 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:33,880 Speaker 3: won seven games. 1094 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:35,279 Speaker 2: No, we was good. 1095 00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,600 Speaker 3: Now, hey, you got to understand who We played seven 1096 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,760 Speaker 3: games and we played against some good competition. 1097 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:40,919 Speaker 2: Now what damn? 1098 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:45,200 Speaker 3: But hey, Miami Northwestern, Miami Central Edison High School. 1099 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:46,799 Speaker 2: Them boy was stacked back then. 1100 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:48,600 Speaker 1: I ain't hear none of them players. I ain't hear 1101 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,520 Speaker 1: none of them name. But y'all name all the guys 1102 00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:51,760 Speaker 1: that you played in the NFL. 1103 00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:52,680 Speaker 2: Yeah they did. 1104 00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,359 Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just telling the quality that my school had. 1105 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:56,560 Speaker 3: We had good quality. 1106 00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:01,520 Speaker 1: So what happened to the Winds? Tell me the quality wins? 1107 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,560 Speaker 1: I know y'all had quality players. What about the quality wins? 1108 00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:06,840 Speaker 3: Had some quality wins. Now, I just don't remember the 1109 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,879 Speaker 3: records from back then. That's a very long time ago. 1110 00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:13,320 Speaker 1: You know, your record were y'all fourteen and one, fifteen 1111 00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,759 Speaker 1: and Old thirteen to two. Obviously, No, y'all lost in 1112 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,879 Speaker 1: the state championship. Y'all lost in the semifinals quarterfinals. 1113 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,239 Speaker 2: Damn, I can't remember, but I did score. What I 1114 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,640 Speaker 2: can tell you is I scored four touchdowns in one game. 1115 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:31,200 Speaker 3: And nobody, nobody's done that. Nobody scored four touchdowns in 1116 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 3: one game. 1117 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,239 Speaker 2: Did y'all win that game? Yes? 1118 00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:39,320 Speaker 3: Yes, matter of fact, we almost beat Miami Northwestern the 1119 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:40,240 Speaker 3: year they won state. 1120 00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,800 Speaker 2: One of the greatest, one of the greatest high school receivers. 1121 00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:48,000 Speaker 3: I saw with my own eyes, Marvin Snoop Minis out 1122 00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,279 Speaker 3: of the Scott Projects that played for Florida State, played 1123 00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,160 Speaker 3: with Kansas City for a little bit before you got hurt. 1124 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never seen nothing like Snoop Minutes boring high school. 1125 00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:59,200 Speaker 1: Uh oh my oh yo. Yeah, what am I supposed 1126 00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:00,759 Speaker 1: to do? We all wist beat the team that won 1127 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:01,880 Speaker 1: the state? What am I supposed to do it? 1128 00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:03,480 Speaker 2: I know, I'm just I'm just trying to I'm just 1129 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,960 Speaker 2: trying to relive my story of high school. That's all. 1130 00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:07,600 Speaker 2: I'm just sharing that story. 1131 00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,640 Speaker 3: Since we're talking football, it's taking me down memory lane. 1132 00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,480 Speaker 3: Can we talk about the young bulls that's going into 1133 00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,520 Speaker 3: the NFL, that got an opportunity to start at the 1134 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,680 Speaker 3: highest level and it just brought me back to where 1135 00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:17,360 Speaker 3: it all started. 1136 00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,240 Speaker 2: That's all. I'm just sharing my feelings in my story. 1137 00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:31,920 Speaker 2: That's all. My bad man, man, it sucks. It sucks 1138 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:33,960 Speaker 2: being you. Oh you it sucks being old. You want 1139 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:35,640 Speaker 2: to be young so bad to go back out there 1140 00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:36,200 Speaker 2: with the boys. 1141 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:37,320 Speaker 3: No, I do. 1142 00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:42,160 Speaker 4: I'm doing because listen, I'm really not old like it. 1143 00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,320 Speaker 4: Kind of it makes me upset. 1144 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:45,840 Speaker 3: And it kind of bothered me when people call me 1145 00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,000 Speaker 3: unk and I think about it, well, why you calling 1146 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,759 Speaker 3: me unk? And I look younger than you sometimes, like 1147 00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:52,560 Speaker 3: you know, you know, it's like what you mean, uncle, 1148 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,600 Speaker 3: Ye look at you, but you look fifty. You look sixty, 1149 00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,120 Speaker 3: you know, because you're drinking your life away and you're 1150 00:54:58,120 --> 00:54:58,960 Speaker 3: smoking and all that. 1151 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,400 Speaker 2: But my body feel good. Huh. Give me. 1152 00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,040 Speaker 4: I ain't never been hurt. I don't have no injuries. 1153 00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:06,759 Speaker 4: I take care of myself and. 1154 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,400 Speaker 2: Go back out there. You will be hurt, you think so. 1155 00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:13,799 Speaker 2: I think. I think. I think I have the the. 1156 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,600 Speaker 3: Self awareness and the IQ to be able to protect 1157 00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,160 Speaker 3: myself if given the opportunity to play at the highest level. 1158 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,759 Speaker 2: You think so, Yeah, I don't. I might not have 1159 00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:30,080 Speaker 2: the speed. I still have my ladder of movement. It 1160 00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,920 Speaker 2: ain't the same. It ain't the same. But even if 1161 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,520 Speaker 2: it's not the same, it's still better than what's out there. No, 1162 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,040 Speaker 2: it's not. You don't think so. 1163 00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,520 Speaker 1: You done lost too much of it, your fidy sence. 1164 00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,160 Speaker 1: It don't tingle anymore. Yeah, because they ain't been on. 1165 00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,080 Speaker 1: You ain't turned them on in a long time. It's 1166 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,040 Speaker 1: like a car. You could have a bad car, you 1167 00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,080 Speaker 1: could have a bugatt it pays six million dollars for it. 1168 00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:52,839 Speaker 2: But don't let it run. 1169 00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,000 Speaker 1: Put it in, put it in your garage, and don't 1170 00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,439 Speaker 1: cut it on for twelve years, fourteen years, fifteen years. 1171 00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,120 Speaker 2: Right, you're right, right, you. 1172 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:04,640 Speaker 1: Think it's go crank, Yeah, it should, it should, No, 1173 00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:10,480 Speaker 1: it won't. And then and then you're gonna have to 1174 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:11,959 Speaker 1: then you have to go take it to the shop. 1175 00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:17,160 Speaker 1: Get all the fluid flushed. Oh I realize, don't yo 1176 00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:21,200 Speaker 1: you you haven't run like that, Yeah, like that like 1177 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:22,200 Speaker 1: you used to run. 1178 00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,000 Speaker 2: In a very long time. Yeah, you're right, you're right, 1179 00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:25,440 Speaker 2: you're right. 1180 00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:27,640 Speaker 1: I think there's a greater chance that you will hurt 1181 00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,759 Speaker 1: something then you go out there and look like your 1182 00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:31,319 Speaker 1: old self. 1183 00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:37,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. Hey, able to chat on my head. Boy. They 1184 00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:38,360 Speaker 2: called you all kinds of names. 1185 00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:48,040 Speaker 7: Chad hurts, Chad Leaf, Yeah exactly, Hey, Chad Chad bletsoe, 1186 00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:49,200 Speaker 7: Chad to beato? 1187 00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:54,279 Speaker 2: Yeah bad? 1188 00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,440 Speaker 1: Oh, Joe, did you see did you watch any of 1189 00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,920 Speaker 1: the Rams Cowboys game. Ceedee Lamb get rocked by the 1190 00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:06,319 Speaker 1: official on the sideline. He was watching Joe Milton throw 1191 00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,359 Speaker 1: a deep pass, but he's watching on the jumbo tron. 1192 00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,279 Speaker 1: He knows that Joe Milton has an arm. I think 1193 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,080 Speaker 1: I saw something other than he threw it like seventy 1194 00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,640 Speaker 1: seventy five yards, so he got his hands up. So 1195 00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:17,920 Speaker 1: he's watching it. He's watching the jumbo tar like, yeah, 1196 00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:18,720 Speaker 1: this touchdown? 1197 00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:23,000 Speaker 2: Literally does he know? He forgets that there's a side judge, 1198 00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,800 Speaker 2: O Jo that's running right and. 1199 00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:29,600 Speaker 1: Man, he ran dead in to the back of CD. 1200 00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:34,040 Speaker 1: And you know, if you triple official, that's unsportmh like conduct. 1201 00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,560 Speaker 4: Wait the official, well he wasn't on the field of place, 1202 00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:38,160 Speaker 4: so how could he? 1203 00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,040 Speaker 2: How could it don't matter. Didn't y'all have a get 1204 00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,600 Speaker 2: back coach telling y'all to get back, get back, get back, 1205 00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:44,200 Speaker 2: get out the way. 1206 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, because what happened if you tripped the official, that's 1207 00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,560 Speaker 1: a fifteen yard pennoty that's exactly what CD got. He 1208 00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:52,560 Speaker 1: lucky didn't get hurt because he relaxed. Don't Yoe, he 1209 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,680 Speaker 1: don't know the guy coming. I mean right right, right right, 1210 00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,880 Speaker 1: Maybe that's a blessing and a curse because he was 1211 00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,320 Speaker 1: relaxed and he didn't tend what's up? 1212 00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:01,040 Speaker 3: Was it? 1213 00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,760 Speaker 2: This wasn't a touchdown, was it? No? No, no, no, 1214 00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:08,360 Speaker 2: no no no. Oh man. 1215 00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,040 Speaker 1: But that you know, that's why they have that's what 1216 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,280 Speaker 1: you know we get. We call him to get back, coach, 1217 00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:14,880 Speaker 1: right right, get back, because you know, you got to 1218 00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,080 Speaker 1: give the official free run of the line of the 1219 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,080 Speaker 1: sideline because if you trip him or something like that. 1220 00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,480 Speaker 1: It's not like basketball that you can you know, you 1221 00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,919 Speaker 1: can run into the official officials part of the court. 1222 00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:30,000 Speaker 1: But in football, you trip it, that's a fifteen yard pillow. 1223 00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:31,000 Speaker 2: You got to get out the way. 1224 00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you got together, you got it. You're supposed to 1225 00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,200 Speaker 1: be five you're supposed to be. First of all, you're 1226 00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:38,560 Speaker 1: supposed to be five yards from the from the sideline. 1227 00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,160 Speaker 1: That's what you're supposed to be because you remember, they 1228 00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,560 Speaker 1: got the tarkoh Joe and the targo. You got the 1229 00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:47,840 Speaker 1: grass and four to five yards open space. And then 1230 00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:49,800 Speaker 1: you're supposed to stand on the tar. But you know 1231 00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,960 Speaker 1: everybody be standing on the field. Yeah, and that's when 1232 00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,240 Speaker 1: they get back, get back. He was penalized for a 1233 00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,120 Speaker 1: foul on the official. I think it's some sports with 1234 00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:57,720 Speaker 1: like conduct. 1235 00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:01,520 Speaker 5: But uh. 1236 00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he definitely get well, yeah, you can't go 1237 00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,680 Speaker 1: past the third, you can't go that far down. He 1238 00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:15,200 Speaker 1: like gillyber Gilly had Gill. 1239 00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:18,160 Speaker 2: Run down the field and the Philly games and then 1240 00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:18,919 Speaker 2: spiked the ball. 1241 00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:25,680 Speaker 1: Hey that was funny. Yeah, hey, good a lot. Uh walla, 1242 00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:27,680 Speaker 1: say man, cuz I don't think you're supposed to did that. 1243 00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:36,040 Speaker 2: Beg Yeah? Yeah, but uh, I mean I've seen I've 1244 00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:42,560 Speaker 2: seen I've seen it call before and see he had nothing. 1245 00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:44,960 Speaker 1: I mean, oh, you know, that's the worst feeling to 1246 00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,800 Speaker 1: bump into something that you don't know that's there. H 1247 00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,520 Speaker 1: you know somebody you know, you running and somebody running 1248 00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,880 Speaker 1: running to you. Oh my bad because they used to 1249 00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:56,680 Speaker 1: be the notorious for that on the football field. 1250 00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,320 Speaker 2: O y, can't you slip it? Oh my bad? Shop. 1251 01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:01,720 Speaker 2: But doubt you worried about it. Bro, you right it 1252 01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:03,400 Speaker 2: don't he worried about it. I'm gonna get you back. 1253 01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,880 Speaker 2: Don't worry about it. If I don't get you up. Man, man, 1254 01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:07,920 Speaker 2: what was that for? O? 1255 01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:12,600 Speaker 1: Because he got me, he got I can't get him 1256 01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,200 Speaker 1: because he's smart. He know he did some chicken ish, 1257 01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,280 Speaker 1: So I can't get him. You didn't know anything about it, 1258 01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,040 Speaker 1: so I can get you because your guard was down. 1259 01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,320 Speaker 1: I gotta get somebody. Oh yo, yeah you got you 1260 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:28,360 Speaker 1: got to I gotta get somebody. Somebody go get god. 1261 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:32,320 Speaker 1: Uh man, I ain't got nothing to do with that. 1262 01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:36,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you do. Your teammate, you should have, you should uh. 1263 01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:38,840 Speaker 5: Uh. 1264 01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:40,760 Speaker 1: He made a lot of the situational I g oh 1265 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,120 Speaker 1: Joe on his face. He posted, see he got decked 1266 01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,560 Speaker 1: by the rail. I feel like everyone needs to laugh. 1267 01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:47,880 Speaker 2: He got your uh. 1268 01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:49,880 Speaker 3: He did. 1269 01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:54,320 Speaker 1: Hey, And yeah that was an official I mean, dude 1270 01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:58,520 Speaker 1: probably in his fifties, forties, fifties. But the matter of fact, 1271 01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:03,280 Speaker 1: he didn't see CD. CD didn't see him. He probably 1272 01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,360 Speaker 1: was mad, probably wanted to throw two flags on CD. 1273 01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,040 Speaker 2: Probably, And you know why, you know, you probably know why. 1274 01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:11,200 Speaker 3: Also, CD didn't get hurt because his body was relaxed, 1275 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:14,800 Speaker 3: because something was coming up. Yeah, when you always think 1276 01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,720 Speaker 3: about I don't mean to bring this up, but John drivers, 1277 01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:20,520 Speaker 3: do you you always notice that the person that's always 1278 01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:24,880 Speaker 3: intoxicated the most, who's always in a relaxed state, in 1279 01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,560 Speaker 3: a high collision crash for some reason, it always walks away. 1280 01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:31,920 Speaker 2: It never gets hurt. You're right, you're right, Yeah, I 1281 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:36,640 Speaker 2: hate you. You can see the chat. Uh no, what 1282 01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:41,960 Speaker 2: they is saying? What they call you? O Joe Mahons man. Hey, 1283 01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:55,360 Speaker 2: but it's it's so funny, Chad, Chad Or Losky Hey, 1284 01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:58,760 Speaker 2: you know you know the chat. You can't let the 1285 01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:02,080 Speaker 2: chat eight on my head right now? Man, they on 1286 01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:02,560 Speaker 2: my head. 1287 01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,000 Speaker 1: Sad Or said all the right things last night, as 1288 01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,840 Speaker 1: as expected at the Great preseason debut. 1289 01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:10,560 Speaker 2: Let's take a listen to what you do or had 1290 01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:10,919 Speaker 2: to say. 1291 01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:16,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean God's patient with us as humans. We 1292 01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,720 Speaker 5: mess up that time, but I don't feel like he 1293 01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:23,320 Speaker 5: threw us away as individual. So it's different things in 1294 01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,440 Speaker 5: different life lessons, you know, you got to go through 1295 01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:30,640 Speaker 5: and I haven't went through this situation you know that 1296 01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:35,080 Speaker 5: that I'm in ever, So it's it's really just a test, 1297 01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,640 Speaker 5: you know, I feel like from God or whoever it 1298 01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:40,840 Speaker 5: is from, it's just a test anyway. I'm just thankful 1299 01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:44,120 Speaker 5: that I was able to see the day of light 1300 01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:45,640 Speaker 5: and get out there and be able to play, so 1301 01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:49,880 Speaker 5: you know, they didn't have to let me play, So 1302 01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:52,800 Speaker 5: anything and everything you know is good for me. So 1303 01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:57,120 Speaker 5: then you know, the kids looking up the kids definitely 1304 01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,800 Speaker 5: inspire me, of course, of course. More it's a lot 1305 01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:03,680 Speaker 5: of people incarcerated that that definitely talk to their friends 1306 01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:05,320 Speaker 5: and talk to me to tell me. My friend and 1307 01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:08,680 Speaker 5: my friend from jail was, you know, watching you play 1308 01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:11,120 Speaker 5: and watching everything that's going on. So it's just like 1309 01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:14,240 Speaker 5: the world, the world, you know, I say, is so 1310 01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:17,480 Speaker 5: small and everybody sees everything. And I'm thankful to be 1311 01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:19,920 Speaker 5: able to inspire people through everything. 1312 01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:21,160 Speaker 2: Because the lady just told. 1313 01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,760 Speaker 5: Me, Now, when I'm having a bad day, I just 1314 01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:25,400 Speaker 5: think about your door, and I'm saying, I gonna act 1315 01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,880 Speaker 5: like you're doing. You know, like that's so cool, you 1316 01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:31,720 Speaker 5: know to me that that I'm some format inspiration. 1317 01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:34,200 Speaker 2: Is your door. 1318 01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,000 Speaker 1: The only thing I'm gonna disagregate with you. They had 1319 01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:39,920 Speaker 1: to let you play because everybody else was hurt. Now, 1320 01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:42,919 Speaker 1: you ain't had no choice if they didn't let you play. 1321 01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:44,760 Speaker 1: They brought they brought a guy in. They brought in 1322 01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:48,560 Speaker 1: a Snoop Huntley. Yeah, because black or wasn't gonna play 1323 01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:53,920 Speaker 1: and the other two couldn't play. So but you did 1324 01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:56,280 Speaker 1: your thing. Oh yeah. All you could control is what 1325 01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,560 Speaker 1: you could control. What you could control was how you played, 1326 01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,600 Speaker 1: how you handled the how you handled the situation. That 1327 01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:03,480 Speaker 1: you've been placed in. 1328 01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:07,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, he did it. He did very well. He did it. 1329 01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:09,080 Speaker 2: He handled it well. 1330 01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:10,640 Speaker 1: He said all the right things, he did all the 1331 01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:15,800 Speaker 1: right things. And that that's that's control what you can control. 1332 01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:20,480 Speaker 1: What you can't control, don't worry about it. Mm hmmm, 1333 01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:24,800 Speaker 1: control what you can control. Uh. He went through a storm, 1334 01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:28,360 Speaker 1: something he never If you'd have told him a year 1335 01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:31,840 Speaker 1: ago he would be in this situation where he's at 1336 01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,080 Speaker 1: right now, he wouldn't have believed that. His dad wouldn't 1337 01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:37,400 Speaker 1: have believed that. Nobody your I didn't wouldn't have believed it. No, 1338 01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:44,080 Speaker 1: absolutely not, based on But you're here, man, Now, forget 1339 01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:45,240 Speaker 1: how I got here? 1340 01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:47,960 Speaker 2: How you're going to get out of here? 1341 01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:52,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, because a lot of time, you know, we spent 1342 01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,600 Speaker 1: a lot of time without your bad how we got 1343 01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:55,920 Speaker 1: into the situation. 1344 01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:58,880 Speaker 2: You're in the situation now, how you gonna get out 1345 01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:02,600 Speaker 2: of it? Yeah? And and I think you've done a 1346 01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:03,080 Speaker 2: great job. 1347 01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,360 Speaker 1: Look, you know, if I'm sure he talks to his dad, 1348 01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:08,800 Speaker 1: even though his dad is not there, he still talks 1349 01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:15,080 Speaker 1: to his dad daily. Dad gives him great advice. He 1350 01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:16,840 Speaker 1: doesn't put any more on this that we can handle. 1351 01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:20,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely not. And sometimes the situation they put you in. 1352 01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:24,880 Speaker 3: They're not advantageous for you. It's not the best situation 1353 01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:26,840 Speaker 3: for you because you got people in the situation you 1354 01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:28,200 Speaker 3: win that don't even believe in you. 1355 01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,200 Speaker 2: And that's when it heard worse most of the time. 1356 01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:35,680 Speaker 3: If here's someone, oh, I'm a part of your organization 1357 01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:38,760 Speaker 3: and you say, well, hell, I don't want you though, Yeah, 1358 01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:41,160 Speaker 3: that's that's meant to break you. 1359 01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:47,080 Speaker 2: That's meant to break you. You didn't Bill. 1360 01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:51,080 Speaker 4: Career, come on, come on, man, But everybody's not built 1361 01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:51,680 Speaker 4: like that mentally. 1362 01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:55,840 Speaker 3: You're right true in this era, in this era of 1363 01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:59,400 Speaker 3: of of sensitivity and oh he said this about me, 1364 01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,520 Speaker 3: And no, everybody not built for that. That's meant to 1365 01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:05,520 Speaker 3: break you. And if they break you mentally, it affects 1366 01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:08,400 Speaker 3: what you do in between the lines on the green grass. 1367 01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,600 Speaker 3: But that's neither here know there he played well the 1368 01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,920 Speaker 3: small sample size we got to see a brother Sander's twelve. 1369 01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:19,960 Speaker 2: Look good, you look good. 1370 01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:24,000 Speaker 1: You're right, Oh, Joe, you're right. Everybody are I mean? 1371 01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:28,120 Speaker 1: I mean sometimes, I mean sometimes when things are not 1372 01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:32,880 Speaker 1: going your way and you're feeling down. Yeah, man, it's 1373 01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:36,720 Speaker 1: hard to stay positive. And I think the thing the 1374 01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:38,480 Speaker 1: best thing for him is that he has a dad 1375 01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:42,600 Speaker 1: that's really positive. Yeah, he sees the positivity and everything. 1376 01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:47,000 Speaker 1: Even when it's all negativity, he'll find something positive. 1377 01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:58,680 Speaker 2: He'll find something good to say that os, that's so Joe. 1378 01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:06,080 Speaker 2: What do you want? Mhm? Make him bark, make him bark, 1379 01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:10,640 Speaker 2: make him bark. No, no, we don't want to. I 1380 01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:12,040 Speaker 2: tried to deter in from barking. 1381 01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:16,480 Speaker 1: And the thing is, I put Titus up, Titus asleep, 1382 01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:18,400 Speaker 1: so I ain't gonta worry about Titus coming and hear 1383 01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:20,040 Speaker 1: me him growling and going crazy. 1384 01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:23,720 Speaker 2: Hey, that's a good combination, bro. 1385 01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:30,000 Speaker 1: And then I took the bones up because him and 1386 01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:33,840 Speaker 1: Teddy fight. You wanted all the bones. He didn't want 1387 01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:36,240 Speaker 1: Teddy to have none, so he had three. I gave 1388 01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:39,440 Speaker 1: each one of the bone, right, so he had his, 1389 01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:41,920 Speaker 1: and he barked at Teddies. So once I gave him, 1390 01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:44,520 Speaker 1: Once I gave him Teddies, it was all good. So 1391 01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:46,360 Speaker 1: I just took all three of them because he gave 1392 01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:49,600 Speaker 1: he had two. At first, Teddy just had one, but 1393 01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:51,640 Speaker 1: he wasn't satisfied with that. He wanted all three. So 1394 01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:54,160 Speaker 1: I said, no, we're nothing to do that. You got 1395 01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:56,320 Speaker 1: to take We're gonna take the bones up for tonight. 1396 01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:58,440 Speaker 2: You got a little thug on your hands. Over there, man, 1397 01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:05,560 Speaker 2: you want to go stay without jo Hey, yeah, come 1398 01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:07,880 Speaker 2: on over here, Thanos. I'm gonn tell you. I'm gonna 1399 01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:10,960 Speaker 2: take you down to the city. Boy. They got a dog. 1400 01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:12,760 Speaker 2: They got a dog park downtown. 1401 01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:15,080 Speaker 1: He said, I can go to the dog park. Yeah, 1402 01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:17,000 Speaker 1: he said, you know, I got I got. You know, 1403 01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:20,000 Speaker 1: I had a little mitter procedure about a month ago. 1404 01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:24,800 Speaker 2: Wait what happened? Good? Yeah, what's wrong with him? We 1405 01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:30,080 Speaker 2: got it fixed up? Oh, why are you exact? Look? 1406 01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:33,280 Speaker 2: He said he heard he heard about them child support payments. 1407 01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:37,519 Speaker 2: He said he want none of that. No, okay, okay, okay, 1408 01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:42,040 Speaker 2: get out there and have a little fun. Man. Yoh 1409 01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:46,559 Speaker 2: girl ain't having no fun. But uh, you're doing look good? 1410 01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:47,120 Speaker 2: He looked good. 1411 01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:50,120 Speaker 1: He looked really good last night. He spoke really good 1412 01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:53,320 Speaker 1: after the game. And the thing now is to build 1413 01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:57,080 Speaker 1: excuse me, it's to build on what he did last night. 1414 01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:01,599 Speaker 1: He also spoke about gifting. Team made some new cleats. 1415 01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:02,760 Speaker 1: Check this out on Joe. 1416 01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:06,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just excited for them. 1417 01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:09,920 Speaker 5: I gifted. I gifted a lot of receivers. The prime 1418 01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:12,200 Speaker 5: DT ninety six is you know, a couple of them 1419 01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:14,680 Speaker 5: had them on. So I just I just get to 1420 01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:18,599 Speaker 5: a couple of like the main receivers going into this game. 1421 01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:21,639 Speaker 5: You know, I gifted them some some warm, some didn't. 1422 01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:23,080 Speaker 5: But I was like, okay, this is just my little 1423 01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:25,880 Speaker 5: appreciation gift to them because they don't be having a 1424 01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:26,559 Speaker 5: lot of stocks. 1425 01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:27,080 Speaker 2: So I couldn't. 1426 01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:31,479 Speaker 5: I couldn't do everybody I wish I could, but yeah 1427 01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:32,920 Speaker 5: it's great. 1428 01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:36,599 Speaker 2: Hey, the ones he won the game were dope. Yeah, 1429 01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:38,200 Speaker 2: those the one you talk about in the game with 1430 01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:42,040 Speaker 2: They had the orange lining like yeah, yeah, the brown 1431 01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:44,960 Speaker 2: color scheme, color weight. Yeah, they were nice. They were nice, 1432 01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:45,759 Speaker 2: I think. 1433 01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:49,160 Speaker 3: Also as a receiver. But for me, I wouldn't want 1434 01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:53,639 Speaker 3: to cleat that heavy. I mean they're they're heavy even 1435 01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:54,200 Speaker 3: based on. 1436 01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:57,200 Speaker 4: The way they're made. I want a lighted shoe as possible. 1437 01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:00,720 Speaker 2: So I mean they look good. Time could have been 1438 01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:03,000 Speaker 2: out there in TMS and run full three. Oh yeah, 1439 01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:11,160 Speaker 2: absolutely absolutely. 1440 01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:12,240 Speaker 1: But uh it all depends. I was, uh you know, 1441 01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:16,880 Speaker 1: I will I wore uh uh TD bottoms. Okay, so 1442 01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:19,280 Speaker 1: I will wide receiver cleats at tight end. 1443 01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:22,200 Speaker 2: And tape your ankles. So he was he was good. Yeah, 1444 01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:23,760 Speaker 2: just come up my hard planner. 1445 01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:26,920 Speaker 3: Right me, even though I'm a hard planner on It's 1446 01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:31,240 Speaker 3: funny Reebok obviously was a rebark back back then, Rebok, 1447 01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:34,800 Speaker 3: take all the lining out of my shoe. I don't 1448 01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:37,600 Speaker 3: want any support. I want my shoe to be just 1449 01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:40,439 Speaker 3: like attract shoe like attracts you. 1450 01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:41,800 Speaker 2: I need to feel the floor. 1451 01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:44,400 Speaker 3: I need to feel the floor when I stop, when 1452 01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:46,360 Speaker 3: I go, when I try to cut and transition. I 1453 01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:51,479 Speaker 3: don't want anything restricting my ankles when it's time for 1454 01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:54,320 Speaker 3: my letter one and and movements. So all I had 1455 01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:57,240 Speaker 3: was the shell, some shoelaces and cleats at the bottom. 1456 01:10:57,280 --> 01:10:59,439 Speaker 2: That's it. Yeah, that's it. 1457 01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:02,760 Speaker 1: But you always were molded, Bob. You didn't You didn't 1458 01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:04,880 Speaker 1: you You wore a tempo Bob, Yeah you didn't. You 1459 01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,200 Speaker 1: didn't we Yeah you didn't wear seven studs. 1460 01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:08,960 Speaker 3: No, I had to have a choice but to wear 1461 01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:11,800 Speaker 3: seven studs. When we played in Heines Field. I think 1462 01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:14,240 Speaker 3: they let the field be messed up like that on purpose. 1463 01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:17,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, soggy, My goodness. 1464 01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:20,439 Speaker 4: It's like, I don't know, I don't know that that 1465 01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:21,599 Speaker 4: was an advantage for them. 1466 01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:23,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure for them. 1467 01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:25,719 Speaker 3: But yeah, that's the only time I wore seven studs. 1468 01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:26,920 Speaker 3: Is when we played in heines Field. 1469 01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:28,880 Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. 1470 01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:34,280 Speaker 1: Uh. There's a video that's been making its way around 1471 01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:38,000 Speaker 1: Curtis Yield Bucky. It's him confronting Brown's reporter Tony Grossi, 1472 01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:40,439 Speaker 1: but not having anything positive to say. 1473 01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:43,320 Speaker 2: Oh, Joe, let's take a look at this video. Yeah, 1474 01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:51,160 Speaker 2: you go. 1475 01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:56,120 Speaker 1: To you. 1476 01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:16,280 Speaker 2: Hey, that's dope, Bunk. I like it. 1477 01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:18,959 Speaker 3: I like it because most of the time those interactions 1478 01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:20,960 Speaker 3: like that, that's not how they go when it comes 1479 01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:21,439 Speaker 3: to players. 1480 01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:23,479 Speaker 2: Most of the time to come to a beat reporter 1481 01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:24,120 Speaker 2: that's been. 1482 01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:29,519 Speaker 3: Established for that long as a Cleveland Beat reporter, you know, 1483 01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:31,559 Speaker 3: when it comes to saying something negative, most of the time, 1484 01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:35,880 Speaker 3: the player challenges him in that manner because you've never 1485 01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,559 Speaker 3: said anything positive. And I could just imagine, I haven't 1486 01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:40,800 Speaker 3: read any of the arkle. I could just imagine if 1487 01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,200 Speaker 3: the rest of the world has been somewhat negative towards 1488 01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,519 Speaker 3: the door, I could imagine with the person that's in 1489 01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:49,400 Speaker 3: house that seas him every day writes so the fact 1490 01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:51,360 Speaker 3: that they were able to do it with a smile, 1491 01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:54,800 Speaker 3: with class, with grace, in understanding, with god, damn, do 1492 01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:57,479 Speaker 3: you have anything nice to say? Because everything I've seen 1493 01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:00,160 Speaker 3: so far has been negative. I did nothing to you, 1494 01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:03,720 Speaker 3: but obviously the dude had the job to do. You 1495 01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:09,680 Speaker 3: understand how to get the views, you have to understand negativity. Negativity, 1496 01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:14,080 Speaker 3: It would create traction, clickbait. How can I get people 1497 01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:17,960 Speaker 3: to read what I'm writing when you talk negative about 1498 01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:20,479 Speaker 3: the biggest thing going on right now in Cleveland outside 1499 01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:22,840 Speaker 3: of Lebron James when he was there right now is 1500 01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:23,679 Speaker 3: Shador Sanders. 1501 01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:30,200 Speaker 1: Robert Lattail Black Sports Online, GROSSI has been like this 1502 01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:34,120 Speaker 1: for thirty years. Baker couldn't couldn't handled it, couldn't I 1503 01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:37,120 Speaker 1: guess he's saying, Baker could not have handled it. Shador 1504 01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:41,280 Speaker 1: disarmed him in sixty second and changed his energy. That's 1505 01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:44,080 Speaker 1: a gift not all people have for negative people. 1506 01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:48,360 Speaker 3: Hey listen, they'll smile me your face, They smile your 1507 01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:52,720 Speaker 3: face obviously at that point and in that moment with 1508 01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:57,439 Speaker 3: Shador greeting him the way he did with class, with grace, 1509 01:13:57,800 --> 01:13:59,519 Speaker 3: But god, damn, are you gonna say anything? 1510 01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:03,280 Speaker 2: Was waiting on you to say something nice? Yeah? Something? 1511 01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:07,160 Speaker 4: So the guy has no I mean, what can you say, 1512 01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:09,240 Speaker 4: especially after that performance? 1513 01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:12,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? What what can you say? 1514 01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:15,160 Speaker 3: And I know people will say, oh, it's the preseason. Oh, 1515 01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:17,320 Speaker 3: it's a small sabbit size. Let's see what he does 1516 01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:18,040 Speaker 3: in the regular season. 1517 01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:20,160 Speaker 2: I mean, it's still this is all we have to 1518 01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:20,479 Speaker 2: go off. 1519 01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:23,559 Speaker 3: So we're talking about what we saw in that specific case, 1520 01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:25,760 Speaker 3: in that moment. I'm curious to what he wrote the 1521 01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:27,800 Speaker 3: day because I'm sure he had something to say today. 1522 01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:35,760 Speaker 1: I think it's different for a quarterback because you know, 1523 01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:38,280 Speaker 1: the eyes are all on you. But I really never 1524 01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:40,040 Speaker 1: had no problem. I was saying around draft pick. I 1525 01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:43,360 Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to be ish anyway. So anything that I gave, 1526 01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:45,479 Speaker 1: anything that I gave him twenty catchers, that was good. 1527 01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:46,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1528 01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:48,040 Speaker 1: But as I got you know, I had never had 1529 01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:50,800 Speaker 1: a problem with with Mark Kissler, never had a problem 1530 01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:54,960 Speaker 1: with Woody Paige. I never had a problem with who else. 1531 01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:59,720 Speaker 1: Jim Armstrong, he was a he was a columnist when 1532 01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:02,439 Speaker 1: I was there. He's in he was with The Indie Star. 1533 01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:07,320 Speaker 1: Now I forget his name. Uh, Chefton. I got to 1534 01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:12,120 Speaker 1: Denverer at the same time. Adam Shefton was reported Denver. 1535 01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:17,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, boy, chef, he's been at this thing for a minute. Boy. 1536 01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:19,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, who's the guy? 1537 01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:19,559 Speaker 3: Uh? 1538 01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:26,160 Speaker 1: But for the Indie Star, Nah, he's the he's the 1539 01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:33,680 Speaker 1: columnst he's the big guy. H uh huh no, no, no, no, no, no, 1540 01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:42,439 Speaker 1: who's the big But he was in he was in 1541 01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:48,599 Speaker 1: Denver when I was there the first half. I hate 1542 01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:58,160 Speaker 1: when I can no, come on Denver, help me. 1543 01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:13,760 Speaker 3: I know, y'all in the chat, somebody in the chat say, Teddy, look, 1544 01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:21,040 Speaker 3: I mean they don't look like a skump his color way, Teddy, 1545 01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:23,200 Speaker 3: I mean dannel. 1546 01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:28,920 Speaker 2: And like this. 1547 01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:35,439 Speaker 3: Huh you know how to whistle like this, hunk? No, 1548 01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:37,880 Speaker 3: it should be loud to hear. I want to learn 1549 01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:43,360 Speaker 3: how to do that. Probably too late now, well damn, 1550 01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:46,240 Speaker 3: I can't. It's too I got this a certain age age. 1551 01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:50,320 Speaker 2: Are we? Why you trying to whistle like that now? 1552 01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:53,000 Speaker 2: Because I just I just never. I just I don't know. 1553 01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:55,080 Speaker 3: I'm going to a NASCAR event soon, and I want 1554 01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:56,400 Speaker 3: to be able to make sure I could whistle like 1555 01:16:56,479 --> 01:17:00,439 Speaker 3: that at the NASCAR event I'm going to. They don't 1556 01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:04,000 Speaker 3: take it. Oh yeah, yeah, I remember I told Bubba. 1557 01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:05,639 Speaker 3: I told bubb I was coming, So I'm actually coming. 1558 01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:11,479 Speaker 3: We got everything aligned, so I'm going down there. I 1559 01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:14,320 Speaker 3: got my I got my my flannel, my cut off sleeves, 1560 01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:15,360 Speaker 3: I got my George. 1561 01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:17,679 Speaker 2: I'm serious. I got my George. 1562 01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:21,559 Speaker 3: I'm ready, the only problem is that I don't drink 1563 01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:23,240 Speaker 3: as long as they got hot dogs and I'm having 1564 01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:24,120 Speaker 3: my coke with no Ice. 1565 01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:29,040 Speaker 2: Two hot dogs. A nice little date of my lady friend. 1566 01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:33,720 Speaker 2: I know she probably watching Man. What's the good? He 1567 01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:34,760 Speaker 2: can't think of his name? 1568 01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:38,120 Speaker 3: Man? Hey, chat, I got a poem. Y'all want to 1569 01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:39,080 Speaker 3: hear it or you want to what? You want to 1570 01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:42,040 Speaker 3: save it for later. We're gonna save it for later, Okay, Okay, 1571 01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:46,080 Speaker 3: I'll think about it all right, Yeah,