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Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunt's rutfresh Radio, bringing you the

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Speaker 1: latest reports from the White Tail Woods, presented by First Light,

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Speaker 1: creating proven versatile hunting apparel for the stand, saddle or blind.

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Speaker 1: First Light Go farther, stay longer, and now your hosts,

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Speaker 1: Casey Smith and Tyler Jones.

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Speaker 2: With cooler temps across much of the country, many are

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Speaker 2: seeing deer movement creep towards daylight. For September hunting. It

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Speaker 2: seems the stoke is pretty high for taking down target

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Speaker 2: bucks in the next week. This is rutfresh, Let's go.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to another episode of rutfresh, brought to you by

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Speaker 2: First Light. We are glad that we have got a

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Speaker 2: bunch of new First Light to deal with this year, case,

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Speaker 2: aren't we.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Man, I've been out here sweating it up in New Mexico,

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Speaker 4: so having to change clothes pretty often. So it's kind

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Speaker 4: of nice. A lot of different gear, you know, it

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Speaker 4: is kind of cool.

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Speaker 5: The h the Marino stuff I wear.

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Speaker 4: I've been wearing a wick a lot. You can wear

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Speaker 4: it a couple of days and it ain't no sweat,

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Speaker 4: you know, as far as like stink or whatever.

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Speaker 2: So it worked pretty well. Yeah, it's Uh, the marino

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Speaker 2: in the mountains, especially when you're not able to get

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Speaker 2: showers and stuff, Man, is just the thing. So and

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Speaker 2: that's that's the thing that I was drawing the first

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Speaker 2: slight first for was in twenty sixteen. Man, was that

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Speaker 2: marino piece. I was told that it was the best twister.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, hey, and I nailed it, dude, I

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Speaker 2: nailed it.

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Speaker 4: Sorry to bring a pittion to it.

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Speaker 2: You do well? Yeah, thanks dude. So we're fixing again

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Speaker 2: in the white Tail. But real quick, how's the how's

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Speaker 2: the el kint going? Elk cutting's great?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 4: Uh, it's there's lulls the mill of day because it's

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Speaker 5: But otherwise, I mean.

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Speaker 4: They were rocking and rolling. We actually had kind of

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Speaker 4: a slower morning this morning. We tried a new area,

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Speaker 4: and uh, I kind of have Actually one of the

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Speaker 4: things that we do with the element whenever we're hunting

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Speaker 4: And I actually haven't been able to do that too

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Speaker 4: for the first time this morning I was able to

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Speaker 4: so that's probably a pretty optimistic way of looking at that,

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Speaker 4: but that's what I do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, you know, another good way to cross ground

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Speaker 2: off or the opposite right, to find the good spot

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Speaker 2: is to hang trail cameras. And so that's something that

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Speaker 2: we've been doing. You guys have been doing some of that.

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Speaker 2: We are obviously apart right now, but I've been hanging

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Speaker 2: because I'm not really like looking for the big buck

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Speaker 2: In the year twenty three, I've not seen a buck

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Speaker 2: So I've got that camera set up on a stake

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Speaker 4: So it's also a good thing to do for human

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Speaker 4: That's that One of the things on Texas Public, at

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guarantee you it'll it'll just walking through one time.

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Speaker 2: And what's handy about that though, is like, you know

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Speaker 4: You know something that the longer a hunt and the

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Speaker 4: more I messed with with stealth cameras, especially the more

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Speaker 4: like data wise, as opposed to to the here and now,

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Speaker 4: you like you'd think that you would be thinking about,

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Speaker 4: like with cell cams, you know, like the the borderline

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Speaker 4: let's go. But it's actually I drift the other direction

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Speaker 4: where it's like, Okay, since I have a cell cam

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Speaker 4: it's almost like a sacrificial camera. I may or may

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Speaker 4: it's probably get stolen or messed with or something between

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Speaker 4: with the camera. And actually we did that on the

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Speaker 4: do a lot right now, but as the rut moves on,

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Speaker 2: For sure. Man, you know, the cell cams are pretty

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Speaker 2: It had been there since August, and we were blown

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Speaker 2: You know what's going on. So it taught us something

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Speaker 2: But it's more like, hey, there's nobody in there this season,

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Speaker 2: what I mean, it's the same same word, but uh,

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Speaker 2: and then they can certainly be used, but in the

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Speaker 2: wrong way. But so can a vehicle, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean? Like can you cross a rifle a bow

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Speaker 4: You know, bow and arrows were uh not legal for

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Speaker 4: that was the thing in some states because they're quiet,

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Speaker 4: so people they didn't know. They thought people were poaching

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Speaker 4: just don't you know you can don't do bad things?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, dude, people are going to be evil

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Speaker 2: It's up to you, man, Like you know, if you

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Speaker 2: don't go over the limit, they're set there for a reason, Right,

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Speaker 2: shoot your deer and be done or whatever if you want,

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Speaker 2: But my whole thought is this, Like when I go

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Speaker 2: would be awesome if I could go have a hunt

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Speaker 2: that was fun. And I don't get like worn down

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Speaker 2: you know. So it's just yep for me. That's that's

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Speaker 2: the main benefit of cell cameras money.

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Speaker 4: As you bring that up, because last year we were

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Speaker 4: in the state, Big Buck State, on some public ground

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Speaker 4: While you're in there, you just barely heard like a

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Speaker 4: Didn't see a lot and long the on cell cam

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Speaker 4: slim gems over there walking around stalking around with an

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Speaker 4: aeronaux throughout the whole property, you know. And it's like

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Speaker 4: if you didn't have the camera data, like take sale

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Speaker 4: cam out of it, just in general, you didn't have

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Speaker 4: think that maybe your access was wrong.

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Speaker 5: Or there was no deer on the property or YadA YadA.

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Speaker 4: Because you have that data, then you know like, oh,

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Speaker 4: here is the extra factor that was unknown until we

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Speaker 4: this is the time of year to get that stuff out.

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Speaker 4: I know a lot of people like to get cameras out,

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Speaker 4: get velvet pictures and all that, and they're awesome believing.

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Speaker 4: One of the cool things about trail cameras is just

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: But this time of year as a hunter, late September

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Speaker 4: is the time to go get cameras in the woods

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Speaker 2: Sure, And we have We've got a guest today that's

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Speaker 4: So yeah, well, dude, the second best thing you can

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Speaker 5: But the first, the.

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Speaker 4: Bestest thing you can do right now is listen to

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Speaker 2: So, Tyler, I'm not there because I am out.

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Speaker 5: Hunting elk in New Mexico. You did all these interviews

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Speaker 2: Things for doing that, man, and who did you talk to? Man?

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Speaker 6: Maybe it's a good diverse group from across the country.

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Speaker 5: You know, seasons are starting to open up in more

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 8: It's season in some places right now will be loved

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Speaker 4: But for the hont let's talk to these guys right

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Speaker 2: All right now on the phone, I've got Grant forty

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Speaker 9: Not too much, Tyle or just really enjoying the beginning

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Speaker 2: To Yeah, it seems like it's been pretty good for

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Speaker 9: So in Maryland there's a little bit of everything. What

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Speaker 5: That's been pretty good. And that corn, yeah, corn and bean.

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Speaker 9: And then there's also a pretty good amount of oaks

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Speaker 2: So have you seen that oaks drop?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, the oaks are dropping, and you know, to be honest,

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Speaker 5: The hunting has actually been a little tough.

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Speaker 9: The deer movement has been pretty slow these first two

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Speaker 5: But really, I can't say that the deer movement has

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, well that's cool, man. It's good to let

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Speaker 9: Yeah, So I think opening weekend there, the first few

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Speaker 5: Was happy to still be able to fill the freezer

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Speaker 9: You know, there's there's a little bit of daylight movement

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Speaker 2: Okay, So on a scale of one to ten, what

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll probably give it a four.

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Speaker 9: You know, probably probably a little bit below average, just

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Speaker 2: Okay. Well, I appreciate the update, man, Yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 2: I hope you guys are able to put down a

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Speaker 2: I appreciate the time.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, well, I appreciate you having me on, Tyler,

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Speaker 2: Year too, Thanks man, Sea Grant see you later, all right,

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Speaker 2: I'm talking to Justin Henry right now. He's out in Florida. Justin,

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Speaker 3: Not a whole lot, you know, just as well as

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Speaker 5: Heat, heat and more heat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's been man. I'll tell you what. The last

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Speaker 3: Zone C, which is Central Florida open up this past

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Speaker 5: Hoping to catch them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so the the what kind of oaks are they?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I mean pretty much you can get into your

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Speaker 2: Gotcha. So the the oaks are I guess in that

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Speaker 5: And what I call like a live oak.

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00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,040
Speaker 3: M No, I haven't really seen any of acorns on

442
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,199
Speaker 3: that really, just the laurels and like you said, like

443
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:48,880
Speaker 3: a swamp oak.

444
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 2: Got okay, So what what's the weather going to be like?

445
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,439
Speaker 2: And are you good at guys gonna get I know

446
00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,160
Speaker 2: that there's been as hurricane season, so things change a lot.

447
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:03,199
Speaker 2: You know. Is is there any cold front in the

448
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:04,880
Speaker 2: future that you see.

449
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 3: I heard a rumor that it might be like sixty

450
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:15,120
Speaker 3: seven Saturday morning. All right, I'm stoked about that. That's

451
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,679
Speaker 3: about for the morning time. That's about a ten degree

452
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,639
Speaker 3: swing the way it's been lately, So I mean, I

453
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,959
Speaker 3: feel like that's enough to induce a little bit movement.

454
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know you have weird ruts down there?

455
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,120
Speaker 2: Is that gonna I mean, I don't know when you're

456
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 2: hunting Central Florida. I don't know when the rut is,

457
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 2: But is that something that could kind of start the rut? Essentially?

458
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 3: Probably not so much with this weather, and given the

459
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 3: time of year Central Florida is usually about mid October

460
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,239
Speaker 3: is when it really starts to fire up.

461
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 5: In my neck of the woods.

462
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 3: Now South Florida being zoned A, they are down way

463
00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:58,360
Speaker 3: south there.

464
00:21:58,400 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 5: They've been running down there.

465
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,120
Speaker 3: They were they actually are running before the season even

466
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 3: opens down in South Florida. But We're still about about

467
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 3: a month away.

468
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 5: For it to start cracking up.

469
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 2: Got So, in the next week, if you're to go

470
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,880
Speaker 2: out hunting, like say that you're gonna go hunt that

471
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 2: that coal front this weekend, are you are you gonna

472
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,159
Speaker 2: change what you hunt them on, the patterns that you

473
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 2: hunt them on, or what do you think?

474
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,399
Speaker 5: No? No, I think I'm gonna stick to the food.

475
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,160
Speaker 3: The acorns should still be dropping here, uh for quite

476
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 3: a while, and uh, I think I'm just gonna stick

477
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 3: tight to the food for the time being.

478
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 2: Okay, cool. So with that, with that coming in, uh,

479
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 2: if you had to rate buck movement on a scale

480
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 2: of one to ten for for this next week, especially

481
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 2: considering that coal front coming in, is it gonna jump up?

482
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 2: And what's that number gonna be?

483
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 3: I think I'm still gonna give it about a three

484
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,159
Speaker 3: to a four, uh, depending on the area.

485
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 5: I think.

486
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,879
Speaker 3: I think it's generally gonna be on the same side,

487
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 3: kind of on the slow side for the time being.

488
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 2: Gotcha. Well, I appreciate the report, justin, and I hope

489
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 2: that you shoot one this weekend. Send us pictures if

490
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 2: you do, and we'll be talking to you soon. Man.

491
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 6: Sounds good.

492
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 3: Thanks Tyler.

493
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 2: All right, I'm here with Nate Crick of Identical Drawl. Nate,

494
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 2: what's been going on? Man?

495
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 6: Hey dude, I mean it's hunting season. Yeah, so can't complain.

496
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 7: Man, September's here and uh, TIMPs have been, uh pretty cool.

497
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 7: Uh we're we're at so it's been. It's been pretty

498
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 7: awesome getting out with the bow in hand and stuff

499
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 7: like that.

500
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 6: Can't complain.

501
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, you know, most guys are hunting elk in September,

502
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 2: Guys like you and I, they spend we spent a

503
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 2: little more time in the deer woods. Especially September can

504
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 2: be really good when you get cooler temps. Uh, you've

505
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 2: been in Kansas and I mean, what was the weather

506
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,479
Speaker 2: like when you were hunting? Was it? Was it cooler

507
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 2: or was it warmer?

508
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 6: It was cooler.

509
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 7: My brother and I we were actually discussing, like Opening

510
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 7: Day was probably the most prime opening day we've had

511
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 7: in as many years as we can remember.

512
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 6: We had a I mean there's a big temp drop

513
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 6: at least.

514
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 7: Ten to fifteen degrees from let's see the tenths, like

515
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 7: the ninth and tenths to the eleventh of opening Day,

516
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 7: and there's some precipitation with it too, so whenever you

517
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 7: get the big temps.

518
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 6: Drops in little pre sip, we get pretty excited.

519
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 2: Yeah.

520
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 7: So yeah, we did hunt the opener and we saw

521
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 7: some deer, but it was still still you could still

522
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 7: tell its early season, like you really gotta I don't know,

523
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 7: at least in our neck of the woods, you gotta

524
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 7: kind of get lucky to snack on his open season bucks.

525
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 7: And it's I don't know, our mindset about it is

526
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 7: kind of just like, I mean, less.

527
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 6: Than two weeks ago we were glassing bucks.

528
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 7: In bean fields, so it's like we're gonna, we're gonna

529
00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 7: kind of be on until.

530
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 6: It kind of to change.

531
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, did uh, did you trail cameras do anything different?

532
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 2: Like did you see anything that was surprising with the

533
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 2: cooler temps that changed their patterns or anything.

534
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 6: I didn't really see anything. The weird thing that well,

535
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 6: I guess it's not weird. I feel like in a

536
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 6: lot of like hunting da and things like that.

537
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,199
Speaker 7: Here don't hunt the mornings early season, but the bucks

538
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 7: that we've been hunting have been daylighting.

539
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 6: In the morning, so that evening are our hunt wasn't

540
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 6: as good as we wanted. Opening day evening and we

541
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 6: went back that night, but Tuesday morning.

542
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 7: The next morning, one of our bucks that you're chasing daylighted,

543
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 7: and then two days later they daylighted again in the morning.

544
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 6: So we were like, man, we need to be we

545
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:48,360
Speaker 6: need to be.

546
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 7: Switching up our minds set a little bit about this

547
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 7: early season morning stuff, because our that's when our bucks

548
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 7: are moving.

549
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 6: I think I think it's I think it's coolest in

550
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 6: the morning because it's still in the evening it's still

551
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 6: dropping timp and so I think it is the coolest

552
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 6: in the morning.

553
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 7: And then I don't know, I don't know what other

554
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 7: things are changing at We had one of our bucks

555
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 7: was actually still vulve full velvet my opening day and

556
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,479
Speaker 7: then two days later he had lost all of it.

557
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 7: So they're definitely they're definitely changing for the season.

558
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, so what have you just been hunting them on

559
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 2: food or what patterns you've been hunting them on?

560
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, pretty much hunting them on food. We have half

561
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 7: of our cameras are still kind of in the summer

562
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 7: mode of on some field edges, some food things like that.

563
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 7: And then actually before we did have an ELK tag

564
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 7: early September, before we did that. We moved some of

565
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 7: our cameras around you some just some more late October

566
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 7: November stuff like drainages, stuff where we're catching pinch points.

567
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 7: And we actually had one of our shooters go hit

568
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 7: one of those cameras and like do a little scrape

569
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 7: action on one of them, and I was like, that's

570
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 7: that's where that's where we need the rest of our cameras.

571
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 6: Because in the last at least in the last five day.

572
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 7: A lot of our food cameras have become a lot

573
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 7: slower just get movement.

574
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 6: So we're like the bucks are still there, but they're

575
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 6: changing and we.

576
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 7: Haven't adjusted to be able to catch them on a

577
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 7: camera or to just just see them more in the tree.

578
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 6: So definitely need to uh to do some of that.

579
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 2: So going forward, are you going to be changing your

580
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 2: hunting setups and your cameras in this next week or

581
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 2: so to kind of match what do you think you're seeing?

582
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, we we follow the food sources.

583
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 7: We've got some oaks on our ground, so like the

584
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 7: acorns are really starting to drop, so combination.

585
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 6: Of that and also just like hitting those heavy trails

586
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 6: and this is we've hunted this property for a while

587
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 6: so it's.

588
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 7: Not like a new thing that we're going to go

589
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 7: scalp with boots in the ground and try to find

590
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 7: some of that fresh sign.

591
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 6: We know where a lot of that is.

592
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 7: We'll still try to find some of that fresh sign

593
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 7: in the next few weeks, but yeah, that transition really

594
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 7: needs to happen. Until we do that, I can expect

595
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 7: trail cameras to be a little slower.

596
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 6: But yeah, that's kind of how it will go.

597
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 7: And I mean the next few weeks will really, I mean,

598
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 7: it can only get better from here. So let's say

599
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 7: really start start getting consistent again. We're gonna wait for

600
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 7: a pretty good temp drop before we go after those

601
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 7: suckers again.

602
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 2: So yeah, cool. So in the next week, if you

603
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 2: had to think, based off of weather and all these

604
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 2: different factors and then just the change that you're seeing,

605
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 2: what would you rate on a scale of one to

606
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 2: ten your projected buck movement?

607
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 6: Gosh, I would I would say it'll be okay. I

608
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 6: bet it'll be.

609
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,719
Speaker 7: Like a seven out of ten, all right, which I

610
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 7: feel like is pretty good for this time of the

611
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 7: year because it could be pretty slow.

612
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 6: But the temps are okay and they're gonna be dipping.

613
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 8: I know.

614
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 6: I saw again later this week they're gonna be dipping.

615
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 7: So honestly, like a week from now, I will I

616
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 7: will expect to have had the bucks were chasing the

617
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 7: least day I once in there, which can't complain for

618
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 7: late September.

619
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 2: Sure, awesome, Dave, Well, thanks for the reporting, Nate, and

620
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 2: I hope you guys have a great season. Get after

621
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 2: them with Kansas Shooters. Yeah, things all right. Now on

622
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 2: the phone, I've got Adam Keith out in Missouri. Adam,

623
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 2: it's been a while since I've seen you, man, but

624
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 2: it's good to talk to you again.

625
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 8: No doubt, Tyler are always a pleasure man.

626
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 2: So you guys are. With Landing Legacy, you have this

627
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 2: company that just does lives and breathes, like you know,

628
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 2: native landscape, right, but you do a lot of just

629
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 2: landscape work and a lot of wildlife work. You guys.

630
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 2: I've been impressed for years, have known you for a

631
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 2: long time now. But with just your knowledge of different

632
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 2: plants and different biology and all the different things, man,

633
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 2: so consequentially you end up killing some pretty good deer

634
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 2: over the years, and you've had success recently, right.

635
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 8: No doubt. Yeah, I'd tell you like, we're habitat restoration

636
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 8: with habitat management for hunting success. So we do a

637
00:29:54,840 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 8: lot of laying out habitat restoration that involves trying to

638
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 8: put a hunting strategy in place, and so you know,

639
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 8: when you do that, I feel like on your home farm,

640
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 8: that's kind of like you're supposed to be able to

641
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 8: hunt your own farm, but if you're in that business,

642
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 8: you kind of have to be laying it out in

643
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 8: a way that produces success. I mean I would feel

644
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 8: pretty like a big failure if I didn't do it correctly,

645
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 8: and sometimes it falls into place too good if you will.

646
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 8: And that was Saturday night for us, I mean first

647
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 8: night in the set and it came together.

648
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you were what were you hunting that buck?

649
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 2: Like the pattern wise, what were you hunting them on?

650
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 2: What were you looking for him to be doing?

651
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 8: For me early season, I'm always trying to press against

652
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 8: betting as close as I can. And whether I'm pressing

653
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 8: against betting that is food sourced close by, that's right

654
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 8: next to the bedded room, or in this case, it's

655
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 8: one of the first scrapes that they use in the

656
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 8: fall where we put a ca on it and in

657
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 8: the fall, it's like, Okay, you see occasional scrape on

658
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 8: a field edge, but like this is the one where

659
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 8: they come in and they're thrashing it and they're working

660
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 8: it up, and it's bare ground and you don't do

661
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 8: anything to make it that way. They do it, and

662
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 8: so it's kind of like a historically good scrape. And

663
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 8: we know that it's very close to this buck's bedding,

664
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 8: and so we just put the time in with the

665
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 8: right wind and lo and behold, he was the first

666
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 8: deer on the field.

667
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the scrape, now, is that something that you

668
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 2: see it it gets opened up because of the diurnal

669
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 2: period or is there a weather uh function there that

670
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 2: happens or why is that? Why does that all of

671
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 2: a sudden become a thing as soon as.

672
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 8: They start shedding velvet. It seems like that scrape starts

673
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 8: starts to heat up.

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00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 2: Okay, And I don't.

675
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 8: Know if it's because you know, there's a lot of

676
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 8: theories with this, but it's on the high one of

677
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 8: the highest elevations on the entire farm, and it's an

678
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 8: open field that's kind of brushy, and it just feels

679
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 8: bucky when you get there in the fall, and I

680
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 8: don't know if because it's so high that when it

681
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 8: gets work so consistently that the scent of that scrape

682
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 8: just drifts down all around and so deer constantly smelling

683
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 8: it and coming.

684
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 2: To check it.

685
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 8: That's kind of been my idea. So it's kind of

686
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 8: like a humongous communication point.

687
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 2: I got you, man, That's that's pretty cool theory. I

688
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 2: love random kind of you know, obscure theories like that

689
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 2: that make a lot of sense still because those are

690
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 2: the you know, you can talk about, you know, betting

691
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 2: and bed to food all day, but everybody talks about that.

692
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 2: It's cool when you can see stuff and be like, oh,

693
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 2: I wonder about this. You know, in case, he's really

694
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 2: good at that stuff. He's a very creative individual.

695
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 8: But yeah, for me, even watching trail cameras, one of

696
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 8: the cool things that you see is like I'll see

697
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 8: a three and a half year old come in and

698
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 8: work that scrape and then he'll walk off and it's

699
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 8: like five minutes later, here comes another buck and he's

700
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 8: checking it, and I'm like, in theory, I'm always like

701
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 8: they're laying around somewhere to where they can either see

702
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 8: a buck going to it or smell it or something.

703
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 8: But it seems like they just almost take a ticket

704
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 8: to go take their turn at the scrape sometimes in

705
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 8: the fall and especially early in the fall, and we've

706
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 8: seen it in the last couple of years, so we

707
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 8: just had to capitalize on it Saturday.

708
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 2: That's awesome, man, congrats on that going forward. If you

709
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 2: were to go hunting next week or this next week,

710
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 2: this coming week, like what would you change anything at

711
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 2: all or would you kind of stay with that same

712
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 2: scrape pattern that's near bedding or would you go would

713
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 2: you move to food or what would you do there?

714
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 8: Well, here in the Ozark Mountains, they're starting to be

715
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,719
Speaker 8: more and more acrons dropping, especially white oaks, And for

716
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 8: our farm, we knew it was a ticking time was

717
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 8: ticking where they're going to shift from that scrape being

718
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 8: consistent on it to shifting more into chasing white oak acres.

719
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 8: And so for us moving forward, the strategy would be

720
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 8: still trying to find those acrens that are dropping close

721
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 8: to betting. And so you know, we've got a couple

722
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 8: of cameras right now on some big white oaks field

723
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 8: edge white oaks that are next to a really dense

724
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 8: area on an east slope and there was deer in

725
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 8: there at seven fifteen this morning, mature box. And so

726
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 8: for us, it's like, okay, we still are going to

727
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 8: use the betting as our focal point, but we're still

728
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 8: trying to find those almost enticers to draw them out

729
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 8: in daylight, whether that be a scrape, or whether that

730
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 8: be a per Simon grove, or whether that be a

731
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 8: food plot or in many cases right now it's white

732
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 8: oak acres.

733
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that makes sense. So if you were to

734
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 2: if you were to rate what you assume buck movement

735
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 2: would be like based off of any variables you can

736
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 2: come up with in the next week, on a scale

737
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 2: of one to ten, what do you think it's going

738
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 2: to be?

739
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 5: Probably a seven.

740
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 8: I feel like it's a pretty good right now.

741
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 5: Looking at the weather forecast.

742
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 8: You know, it's still mid September to light a part

743
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 8: of September, but it's cooler. It's a little bit almost

744
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 8: historically cooler than normal, and over the last couple of

745
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 8: weeks has been really hot, and this week looks pretty cool,

746
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 8: chances of some rain. I mean, if I still had

747
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 8: a tag, I'd be out there.

748
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 2: Awesome, dude, Well, thanks for the report Adam, and I

749
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 2: hope you guys have a great season. Man appreciate it.

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00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 6: Same to you guys.

751
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 2: Honest reports from all these fellas. These are the guys

752
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,399
Speaker 2: we like to have on so that everyone listening has

753
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 2: a realistic expectation it can make good use of their

754
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 2: free time. These guys talked a lot about hunting food

755
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 2: for the week, and I almost hate to give out

756
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 2: this information, but Adam Moore has written a really good

757
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 2: short article on the meat Eater website called three overlooked

758
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 2: food sources for early season white tails. Also, there are

759
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Speaker 2: more one Week in November episodes coming soon, so make

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Speaker 2: don't forget to hop over to the Element podcast and

762
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Speaker 2: while in the field and answer listener questions. This has

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